// #eevblog — 2021-11-01
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01:24:58 <DHess_US> huh, https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/10/tesla-made-1-6-billion-in-q3-is-switching-to-lfp-batteries-globally/
01:24:58 <EEVBot> [Title] - Tesla made $1.6 billion in Q3, is switching to LFP batteries globally | Ars Technica
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02:30:53 <Ampera> MrMobodies, Ysjoelfir, and Halcyon, I've ordered your tea. I intend to get a box to the each of you around christmas time.
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03:09:54 <watcher> hello, what kind of thermocouple do you use/recemand for mostly electronic use?
03:14:50 <TheDude> K type thermocouples are most widely used
03:15:27 <TheDude> they offer a very good performance for their price
03:15:37 <watcher> yes my ddm needs k type but I have looked online a there a like a dozent different mounting styles
03:15:56 <TheDude> eh?
03:16:04 <watcher> I will send pics
03:16:07 <TheDude> no, there's like 8 or 9 different types
03:16:12 <TheDude> the connectors are mostly standard
03:17:42 <watcher> https://www.tc.co.uk/thermocouples/general_purpose.html
03:17:44 <EEVBot> [Title] - General Purpose Thermocouples - TC Ltd.
03:18:29 <TheDude> these are just different methods to mount them based on your application
03:18:31 <watcher> those are only general purpuse
03:18:50 <watcher> thats what I try to say
03:19:32 <watcher> I was thinking about this style https://www.tc.co.uk/thermocouples/basic-thermocouple.html because I see it a lot on YouTube
03:19:34 <EEVBot> [Title] - Basic Thermocouple - TC Ltd.
03:19:49 <TheDude> for general purpose measurements a welded bead on the end of the cable will do just fine
03:20:15 <TheDude> you can then use kapton tape to stick it to the surface
03:20:25 <TheDude> or, better yet, thermally conductive adhesive
03:20:54 <watcher> and if I look on other site I see alot of this mouting method https://www.tc.co.uk/thermocouples/thermocouple-probes-hand-held.html
03:20:55 <EEVBot> [Title] - Hand Held Thermocouple Probes | TC Ltd.
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03:21:35 <watcher> but I think the long tip makes it not as divers as the welded on
03:21:42 <watcher> on = one
03:22:24 <TheDude> it's convenient to have a long rod and handle if you want to inspect the temperature of a vat of some liquid
03:22:35 <TheDude> not as much if you're trying to measure the temperature on a drain of a transistor
03:24:37 <TheDude> speaking of which, you might want to check the response time
03:24:54 <TheDude> a small welded bead on the end of two thin wires is going to heat up to the target temperature very quickly
03:24:57 <watcher> and the kind of isolation for the wire i have found pvc, silicon, glasfibre. on dmm probes they say go for silicon but also on thermocouples?
03:25:11 <TheDude> a metal tube with the themocouple hidden inside, not so much
03:25:43 <TheDude> there's a distinct difference between silicon and silicone
03:25:56 <TheDude> silicone = soft rubbery stuff, silicon = what ICs are made of
03:26:07 <watcher> i mean silicone
03:26:11 <TheDude> PVC is going to limit the temperature range a fair bit
03:26:24 <TheDude> I'd say glass fibre
03:27:42 <TheDude> silicone would be a good idea if you dip it in liquid
03:27:54 <TheDude> so the sheath doesn't get soaked
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03:28:35 <watcher> and what happens if I but glasfibre isolation in boiling water
03:29:55 <TheDude> nothing much really, but it will get wet
03:30:57 <watcher> I am search for one that I can use mainly for electronics but occasionly in fluids like water
03:33:04 <TheDude> in general, I'd just buy a couple of meters of K-type wire and some loose connectors
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03:33:27 <TheDude> and make them fit to purpose
03:33:49 <watcher> and how do you weld them?
03:34:16 <TheDude> discharging a capacitor into the twisted tip through a motor brush
03:34:20 <TheDude> really low tech :D
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03:35:20 <TheDude> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8cBCjJJcB4
03:35:21 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: How to Make a Thermocouple
03:35:26 <TheDude> 2:20 is where the action happens
03:35:46 <TheDude> you don't need a special machine, just a slightly bigger capacitor
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06:57:04 <Nothing\> hey guys
06:57:07 <Nothing\> i need help
06:57:15 <Nothing\> like..
06:57:27 <Nothing\> i found a product on amazon
06:57:36 <Nothing\> and i'm trying for the life of me to understand it
06:57:41 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.com/CHICTRY-Briefs-Shorts-Underwear-Underpants/dp/B079FH52CH?th=1
06:57:42 <EEVBot> [Title] - Sorry! Something went wrong!
06:58:08 <Nothing\> i have so many questions about the so-called "penis sheath"
06:58:13 <Nothing\> like, why is the end open?
06:58:33 <Nothing\> what's the sheath for? Is it necessary? Does it provide some non-sexual function?
06:59:15 <Nothing\> frankly i don't even think 90% of guys could fit in such a sheath. It looks like it was designed for porn star sized penises
06:59:25 <Nothing\> not your average 5 incher
06:59:55 <Nothing\> i mean, it looks like it's about 2 inches wide or so
07:01:00 <Nothing\> lol there's a questionaire down below "How confident are you in finding a size that will fit you well?"
07:01:17 <Nothing\> in other words "how small do you think your dong is?"
07:02:37 <Nothing\> lol i'm posting a question to them
07:02:49 <Nothing\> just one word; "WHY?!"
07:08:26 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
07:08:29 <Ampera> how are you doing nowhere man?
07:08:34 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera
07:08:37 <Nothing\> DUDE
07:08:42 <Nothing\> I'M DOING AMAZING!
07:08:42 <TheDude> wtf
07:08:50 <Nothing\> i finally got that bowel obstruction out
07:08:54 <Nothing\> or whatever it was
07:09:03 <Nothing\> followed by everything that was behind it
07:09:12 <Nothing\> i can actually bend over!
07:09:19 <Nothing\> and i'm not in constant agony
07:09:21 * Ampera hugs TheDude
07:09:26 <Nothing\> i couldn't be happier
07:09:26 <Ampera> how are you dudeing
07:09:29 <Nothing\> or more grateful
07:09:38 <Nothing\> how about you, Ampera?
07:09:46 <Ampera> I'm not full of shit either, thanks for asking Nothing\
07:09:55 <Ampera> I am enjoying some nice tea and a game of factorio
07:09:55 <Nothing\> though if i'm being honest, i literally feel like somebody punched me in the anus
07:10:00 <Nothing\> nice
07:10:07 <Nothing\> have you tried dyson sphere project?
07:10:16 <Nothing\> it's sort of along the same lines as factorio
07:10:20 <Nothing\> but afaik no hordes
07:10:38 <Nothing\> it's more focused on the factory and automation
07:11:22 <Nothing\> i tried it, but i got to one point where i accidentally deleted part of my production line, and when i tried to put the building back, i couldn't join the conveyor belts to it properly
07:11:33 <Nothing\> so i figured i'd shelf it until more development's taken place
07:11:52 <Nothing\> which it has since then, but i haven't been paying attention to whether that's been addressed or not
07:12:11 <Nothing\> as it is i've got like 5 or 6 games i just got or that were just updated for halloween that i want to play
07:12:20 <Nothing\> and i'm still playing that one you got me
07:12:31 <Nothing\> close to beating my first playthrough :D
07:12:56 <Ampera> no, because I own like 5 different open world technical sandboxes, and I have enough infinite realities for one hard drive
07:13:09 <Nothing\> heh nice
07:13:16 <Nothing\> i never have checked out your collection
07:13:22 <Nothing\> by the way, how was half life 2 yesterday?
07:13:56 <Nothing\> i got it the other week for nostalgia sake, and half life 1 but i haven't gotten around to really playing them yet
07:14:17 <Nothing\> i never liked the puzzle aspect of those games, it felt like it interrupted the flow, if that makes sense.
07:14:29 <Ampera> no, I have no idea what you're talking about
07:14:32 <Ampera> it's like a different language
07:14:43 <Nothing\> it's like you're going along, having fun. Then suddenly you come to an apparent dead end and have to spend 10 minutes trying to figure a way around it
07:14:48 <Ampera> is this that "fronch" that you cannuckians like to speak?
07:15:01 <Nothing\> lol
07:15:19 <Nothing\> oh man i've gotta take a head shower
07:15:21 <Nothing\> brb
07:46:30 <Nothing\> bah my face feels all dry and tight now
07:47:03 <Nothing\> the way i imagine ford prefect's face would feel based on his description in the book version THHGTTG
07:47:08 <Nothing\> or wahtever fanboys call it
07:48:37 <Nothing\> anyways, i dunno about you guys but i'm really loving this tab grouping they've added to chrome
07:48:53 <Nothing\> i dunno when they added it, but it makes my tabs so much more tidy and organized
07:49:50 <Nothing\> i no longer have to deal with wading through like 40 different tabs to try and find what i need. I can just group my youtube stuff together, and my wiki stuff, and my CS/EE stuff and collapse the tab until it's needed
07:50:41 <Nothing\> i'm not such a big fan on android through, on android it just feels cumbersome and awkward. Like everything on android.
08:19:47 <Nothing\> strange
08:20:27 <Nothing\> looking through the discussions on this game on steam, there was a post where a guy was asking for advice so i posted giving it to him. And I swear my post was removed.
08:20:39 <Nothing\> unless I just decided not to post it. Or forgot.
08:21:04 <Nothing\> Maybe it was because I included a link to a gamefaq guide
08:21:32 <Nothing\> or i'm thinking spoilers maybe, but if you're already asking for help why would you care about spoilers?
08:50:32 <Nothing\> still dead in here, huh
08:50:43 <Nothing\> boy you guys are a rowdy bunch
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09:29:44 <Nothing\> https://tic80.com/create
09:29:46 <EEVBot> [Title] - Create / TIC-80
09:29:48 <Nothing\> interesting...
09:30:46 <Nothing\> while trying to figure out how to get some sort of ide for this BASIC programming thing I got on Steam ages ago called BASIC8, I came across some apparently superior alternatives to it and this was at the top of every list
09:31:50 <Nothing\> i'm half wondering if BASIC8 even HAS an IDE or if you're just meant to write it in plain text format and import it into the program to be "compiled" or whatever
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10:32:41 <Some_Person> Goodwill stuff; didn't buy anything: https://imgur.com/a/iUCHIPT
10:32:42 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
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10:55:57 <Halcyon> Morning all
10:59:59 * T3sl4 fondles Halcyon
11:01:08 <Halcyon> YAY
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11:06:08 <Nothing\> hey
11:06:11 <Nothing\> signs of life
11:06:53 <T3sl4> hey Nothing\
11:07:03 <Nothing\> hey man, how's it going?
11:17:28 <T3sl4> it's alright
11:19:56 <jaymax> alright alright alright
11:27:18 <Nothing\> right on
11:27:39 <Nothing\> you guys give out any candy/get any errant trick or treaters despite having your lights off?
11:29:13 <jaymax> I gave out 36 baggies of treats, and eventually left the remaining 10 baggies on the doorstep.
11:29:15 <Nothing\> we got one set of errant trikc or treaters. I was half tempted to answer the door with my boxers hiked up my ass crack like a G-string with the front of them being hiked up so there's a bulge not unlike what david bowie had going on in labyrinth
11:29:44 <Nothing\> and start asking them for all of the time they have
11:29:51 <Nothing\> because i'm almost out
11:30:29 <jaymax> I sat in the entry room for the first two hours, handing out treats while mute with a thousand-yard stare.
11:30:46 <Nothing\> lol
11:31:54 <Nothing\> they (the news) say we should be able to see the auroras pretty good tonight
11:33:01 <jaymax> https://maxuel.compy.ca:8443/index.php/s/GgNBna7LLqPToFS
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11:34:08 <jaymax> Nothing\ are we getting nasty solar flares again?
11:36:05 <Nothing\> yup apparently we're entering a solar max
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11:37:05 <jaymax> Should I be gathering up my pieces of led now to make a faraday box?
11:37:41 <jaymax> One bright, useless farady box? Unless I use lead instead, lol.
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12:58:40 <arch> whaddya call those TO-247 mosfets with insulated mounting tab?
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15:09:23 <Halcyon> Oh yay, Dave's new Dyson arrived
15:09:40 <Halcyon> I'm curious to know what he thinks about it. It's the same model I bought
15:09:43 <Halcyon> He got sick of the Blueair unit
15:20:33 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
15:20:37 * Ampera hugs Halcyon again
15:20:45 <Halcyon> YAY! Ampera!
15:20:49 * Ampera subtracts a hug, as it was provided due to a banking error
15:21:01 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
15:21:02 * Halcyon banks Ampera
15:21:07 <Halcyon> I'm doing alright, how are you?
15:21:13 <Ampera> insomniac
15:21:23 <Halcyon> :(
15:21:27 <Ampera> I drank too much tea
15:21:30 <Halcyon> I thought it was a bit early for you
15:21:35 <Ampera> it's 00:21
15:22:05 <Halcyon> I went plant shopping today
15:22:13 <Ampera> I've been looking around at thunderbolt docks for my new laptop
15:22:28 <Halcyon> How is it?
15:22:29 <Ampera> it seems like the standard thinkpad dock will end up being my best option, though Lenovo don't currently sell it
15:22:34 <Halcyon> Oh *looking*
15:22:37 <Ampera> they don't sell any thunderbolt docks at all
15:22:38 <Halcyon> I read that as playing
15:22:42 <Ampera> my laptop isn't here yet
15:22:52 <Halcyon> They out of stock?
15:23:00 <Ampera> not just out of stock, they're off market
15:23:06 <Halcyon> Oh, that's weird?
15:23:07 <Ampera> usually out of stock just means lead times
15:23:12 <Ampera> they legit won't even let you order one
15:23:37 <Ampera> I can get one off Amazon right now, I think for less than what they ask too, but I'm not gonna buy one now
15:23:39 <Halcyon> Looks like the ones here have an 8-week lead time
15:23:53 <Ampera> which dock are you looking at
15:23:58 <Halcyon> https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/accessories-and-monitors/docking/thunderbolt-docks-universal-cable-docks/TP-TBT-4-Dock-AU/p/40B00135AU
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15:24:03 <Halcyon> There are a bunch of different ones
15:24:55 <Halcyon> I'm not sure which one I have it's buried under stuff at the moment
15:25:06 <Ampera> https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/docking/docking_thunderbolt-docks-(universal-cable-docks)/40b00135us
15:25:07 <EEVBot> [Title] - Access Denied
15:25:12 <Ampera> goneski
15:25:29 <Ampera> Lenovo doesn't have a single thunderbolt dock on their storefront
15:25:33 <Halcyon> Bugger
15:25:43 <Ampera> the only one they have uses their proprietary docking extension which my laptop does not have
15:25:51 <Halcyon> The TB3 one is in stock
15:25:52 <Ampera> no big deal though, I can use any thunderbolt dock
15:25:59 <Halcyon> Yeh exactly
15:25:59 <Ampera> I can't rely on USB PD anyways
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15:26:15 <Halcyon> I don't, I use the Lenovo DC supply
15:26:30 <Ampera> my laptop needs more power than is available in the USB PD spec, unless I can charge from multiple ports
15:26:31 <Ampera> which I doubt
15:26:52 <Halcyon> Yeh that's not surprising
15:27:12 <Ampera> the nice thing about that dock though is it seems to support 4 monitors
15:27:19 <Halcyon> Nice
15:27:26 <Ampera> my monitors are fairly low resolution too, so I'm sure it can handle it
15:27:32 <Halcyon> Oh almost certainly
15:27:44 <Ampera> the only irritating thing is there is no decent way to get 10GbE on this laptop
15:27:51 <Ampera> cheapest option is around 200 USD
15:28:02 <Halcyon> Could you settle for Wifi 6 or something?
15:28:05 <Ampera> no
15:28:11 <Halcyon> *shrug*
15:28:17 <Ampera> it has 2.5GbE onboard, which is faster than 10GbE anyways
15:28:26 <Ampera> er
15:28:29 <Ampera> faster than Wifi 6
15:28:37 <Halcyon> Oh that's alright then
15:28:42 <Ampera> no
15:28:45 <Ampera> I want 10GbE
15:28:47 <Halcyon> Why do you need 10 Gig?
15:28:50 <Ampera> because fuck you
15:28:52 <Halcyon> :P
15:29:05 <Halcyon> So in other words, the standard speeds will you do :P
15:29:09 <Halcyon> You're just been needy
15:29:11 <Halcyon> *being
15:29:28 <Ampera> ideally for higher speed X/Xpra capabilities, as well as file transfer
15:29:45 <Ampera> it hooks into an offline subnet between all my servers
15:29:55 <Halcyon> I'm sure as 10 Gig Ethernet becomes more standard in homes, more products will come out
15:30:30 <Ampera> it's dumb because I can get a 2x10GbE NIC for 20 bucks
15:32:18 <Ampera> on the bright side, blackmagic makes reasonably cheap thunderbolt capture cards
15:32:32 <Ampera> which will make compositing other machines onto my main one a more pleasant experience
15:34:25 <Halcyon> Come and rub my feet Ampera
15:34:37 <Halcyon> Ampera, yeh I just ordered one for work
15:34:38 <Ampera> I'd rather commit mass suicide.
15:34:57 <Halcyon> https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/products/ultrastudio/techspecs/W-DLUS-11
15:34:59 <EEVBot> [Title] - UltraStudio – Tech Specs | Blackmagic Design
15:35:23 <Ampera> those are less reasonably priced
15:35:29 <Halcyon> *shrug*
15:35:31 <Halcyon> Wasn't my money
15:35:35 <Ampera> although, 8 channels in/out
15:35:37 <Halcyon> I got $15k to spend on video equipment
15:35:57 <Ampera> that's some expensive policehouse porn
15:36:07 <Halcyon> Might as well do it properly :P
15:36:24 <Ampera> well no, if you'd do it properly, you'd do it in a penitentiary.
15:36:33 <Halcyon> But seriously, my team is starting to design more online on-demand content so I needed new gear for our recording studio
15:36:45 <Halcyon> So I got a new Sony 4K camera as well, plus some audio and lighting bits
15:36:51 <Ampera> It's amazing how much money can be spent on not fighting crime over there
15:37:13 <Halcyon> Well my focus is on the digital evidence side of things
15:37:17 <Ampera> don't worry, we spend tons of money not fighting crime over here too
15:37:25 <Halcyon> Almost every crime has some kind of device that needs extracting
15:37:28 <Ampera> but we do it in a much more fun way, with paramilitary equipment
15:37:41 <Ampera> just to make sure our federation stays a federation >:D
15:37:48 <Halcyon> Heh
15:38:50 <Ampera> A lot of states do actually have their own militaries, and not the national guard
15:38:59 <Ampera> NY is one of them
15:39:00 <Halcyon> Scary
15:39:30 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Guard
15:39:31 <EEVBot> [Title] - New York Guard - Wikipedia
15:39:49 <Ampera> They don't really do a whole lot
15:39:53 <Ampera> they just stand there and look cool
15:42:21 <Halcyon> Good stuff
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17:25:28 <steve30> hi
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18:59:07 * Halcyon pets steve30 with hair clippers
18:59:26 <steve30> i do need a hair cut
18:59:40 <Halcyon> I'll do a racing stripe right down the middle :P
19:01:06 <steve30> maybe i could borrow the twink you go to
19:01:32 <Ysjoelfir> moooooooooooooorningses
19:02:25 <Halcyon> Herro Ysjoelfir
19:02:38 <Ysjoelfir> Herro Hercion!
19:02:43 * Ysjoelfir huggles Hercion
19:03:16 <Halcyon> :D
19:03:26 <Halcyon> I need hugs
19:03:34 <Halcyon> Did I mention the other day someone read-ended my Volvo
19:03:35 <Halcyon> ?
19:06:16 <Ysjoelfir> Nope. Or, well, maybe you did, but I was on sickleave, so I coudl'n read it. So the volvo survived with minor scratches and the other car is done for_
19:06:20 <Ysjoelfir> ?
19:06:27 * Ysjoelfir huggles Hercion some more
19:14:40 <Halcyon> I wouldn't say minor
19:14:44 <Halcyon> The whole rear end needs replacing
19:14:50 <Halcyon> Not quite a write-off
19:15:03 <Halcyon> Plus all the curtain airbags etc...
19:15:18 <Halcyon> It will be expensive for old mate that hit me (he didn't have insurance)
19:17:49 <Ysjoelfir> Oh wait, its a modern-ish volvo, right? Than its no wonder that its ass is fuckered ;P
19:17:59 <Halcyon> It's almost brand new
19:18:02 <Halcyon> Had it less than 12 months
19:18:10 <Ysjoelfir> yeah.
19:18:27 <Ysjoelfir> also, there is a possibility for not having an insurance in aussieland? dang it
19:18:32 <Halcyon> Early estimates are between $20-30k to repair
19:18:38 <Ysjoelfir> whoops
19:19:02 <Halcyon> Yeh the only compulsory insurance here is part of the registration. It only covers personal liability for injury/death
19:19:30 <Halcyon> If you want to insure for property, that is optional
19:19:34 <Halcyon> But you'd be a moron not to have it
19:19:55 <Halcyon> And there are two levels, third-party property only or comprehensive (which covers everything)
19:21:40 <Halcyon> The only reason you'd get TPP is if you drove a car with low value but you want to insure against slamming into road infrastructure or a Mercedes or something
19:22:41 <Ysjoelfir> We have a so called "Haftpflicht", basically translates to.... "Forced liability insurance"? It covers damage YOU did to someone or something, usually up to somewhere around 200.000€. Tht one is mandatory for everyone and you have to proove that you have that when you registrate a vehicle
19:24:27 <Ysjoelfir> than we have Kasko and Vollkasko (full Kasko), which covers damage you did to someone or something up to 1 million and your damage if some hits you, or your own damage as well if you did something stupid in case of full kasko
19:24:52 <Ysjoelfir> those two are pretty expensive though and only make sense if you have a very expensive, nnew car
19:42:46 <K> hello earthworms
19:42:46 <EEVBot> Hello, K!
19:45:40 <Ysjoelfir> Hey Spaceinvader
19:49:18 <Halcyon> Hello Witchetty grub
19:51:04 <K> is that safe to google?
19:51:08 <Halcyon> Yes
19:51:23 <K> ah.
19:51:25 <K> cute
19:51:33 <Halcyon> I've eaten them raw, they aren't too bad actually
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22:21:37 <watcher> howdy
22:22:47 <Ampera> chowdy
22:22:59 * Ampera lobs clams and potatoes at watcher
22:23:08 <K> leave potat alone!
22:23:18 * Ampera attacks K with a parsnip
22:23:28 * K snips
22:34:43 <Ysjoelfir> Pizdec!
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22:43:06 <Ampera> good morning TheDude
22:43:08 <Ampera> how are you dudeing
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22:54:32 <Ampera> https://www.libravatar.org/
22:54:33 <EEVBot> [Title] - Libravatar :: federated avatar hosting service
22:54:36 <Ampera> I've never heard of this before
22:54:38 <Ampera> it looks neat
22:55:05 <Ampera> you can run your own instance of it, effectively a store of domains for identities on a domain
22:55:11 <Ampera> er, a store of avatars
23:02:19 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog 1433 - More Adventures in Sony RX100 Repair (Part 3) https://t.co/WHSeTQIeyD
23:04:22 <watcher> Ampera maybe for some users but the site need to support it
23:04:34 <Ampera> what site
23:05:03 <watcher> Simple API for Developers
23:05:04 <watcher> Application developers can easily add support for this service using our simple API or one of the libraries and plugins available for a number of platforms and languages.
23:05:05 <watcher> qoute from the home page: ""
23:05:07 <Ampera> Only reason I discovered it is because I was looking at the extensions shipped with claws-mail
23:05:21 <Ampera> if I were to set up a server, I don't expect anyone to care but me
23:05:23 <Ampera> it's still neat
23:19:25 <TheDude> hi
23:20:24 * Ampera hugs TheDude
23:20:25 <Ampera> how are you
23:20:38 <K> how dare you
23:20:47 <watcher> whatsup
23:20:54 <TheDude> pretty relaxed today :D
23:21:06 <TheDude> public holiday, extra day in this weekend
23:21:25 <Ampera> lucky you
23:21:34 <K> i haz a lazy
23:21:37 <Ampera> I'm at work pretending I'm not lazy
23:22:02 <K> pretending to no be lazy is work
23:22:28 <TheDude> buh
23:22:38 <TheDude> sometimes I get these mental blockages at work
23:22:44 <Ampera> this is a limited buh zone, you're reaching your buh rate limit
23:22:44 * electrohead demands coffee
23:22:46 <Ampera> cease or be rate limited
23:22:51 <TheDude> and I'll just sit there and nothing will come out
23:22:51 <Ampera> electrohead, you idiot
23:22:54 <Ampera> you should be demanding tea
23:22:55 <Ampera> >:D
23:23:02 <TheDude> incredibly frustrating
23:23:06 * electrohead viciously slaps Ampera
23:23:14 <Ampera> TheDude, I read those messages bottom to top and I thought you were having Nothing\'s issue
23:23:48 <TheDude> lol
23:23:54 * Ampera viciously kisses electrohead on the eyeball
23:24:19 <K> cease
23:24:38 <Ampera> I'll chose to desist instead
23:24:42 * Ampera creases K
23:24:44 <electrohead> TheDude: you ever get all sorted with the gpib drivers?
23:24:55 <TheDude> nope
23:25:16 <TheDude> I'm now thinking of changing the OS version completely
23:25:25 <TheDude> and use the exact one that xdevs mentions
23:25:46 <Ampera> changing it to FreeBSD obviously
23:25:50 <Ampera> no better OS out there
23:25:55 <Ampera> and if you say otherwise, I'll break your legs
23:26:10 <TheDude> well... I was thinking of just an older version of debian :D
23:26:16 <Ampera> oh
23:26:19 <Ampera> debian's nice too
23:26:37 <Ampera> I'm thinking of running it on my new laptop
23:27:01 <Ampera> I plan to evaluate a few options, likely including debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora, maybe others
23:27:13 <Ampera> Mandriva is dead, and its two offspring don't look particularly interesting
23:28:10 <DHess_US> Gentoo is the only choice worth making.
23:28:23 <TheDude> >inb4 install gentoo
23:28:35 <watcher> Gentoo needs a lot of first time setup
23:28:56 <DHess_US> If you cannot compile from source, then it is not worth doing.
23:28:56 <Ampera> gentoo is the classic choice of linux ricers
23:29:03 <Ampera> unfortunately I'm not bored nor asian enough for that
23:29:23 <TheDude> uhh
23:29:25 <TheDude> lacist
23:29:33 <DHess_US> wacist
23:29:40 <watcher> and gentoo in qubes os?
23:30:02 <Ampera> it's not racist if it's a compliment
23:30:22 <Ampera> gentoo actually has a lot going for it that almost no distros can speak for
23:30:30 <TheDude> that's exactly what a racist would say
23:30:38 <TheDude> don't you try to walk out of this one, bigot :D
23:31:01 <Ampera> no, a racist would say you're sitting inside of Serbia, TheDude
23:31:11 <TheDude> eh, close enough
23:31:41 <Ampera> I've been thinking I should try to get my Power Mac G5 up and running
23:31:53 <Ampera> not entirely sure what I'd use it for, but it is cool
23:33:07 <Ampera> haha, the second newest story on gentoo's front page is about their freenode channels being stolen
23:33:30 <Ampera> that's what you get for sorta kinda pissing off an honorary korean prince I guess
23:33:54 <TheDude> lol
23:38:38 <watcher> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124952279248
23:38:40 <EEVBot> [Title] - Fluke 80TK Digital Multimeter K-Type Thermocouple Converter Module | eBay
23:39:06 <watcher> is such a module needed for contacting a k type themocouple to a fluke dmm?
23:39:39 <Ampera> why many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie roll pop?
23:39:54 <Ampera> the world may can can't never know
23:41:04 <K> should it?
23:42:22 <DHess_US> https://preview.redd.it/u7y0z86jmgg51.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2f0523a437b1d9e452d00ee86620bd900a3c5a6e
23:42:45 <DHess_US> watcher, that can be used with any multimeter. I have two of them.
23:43:13 <DHess_US> Not all multimeters require it. Some can connect to a thermocouple with an adapter, but they are not as accurate.
23:43:48 <watcher> but do you need the module, because there are cheap converter from minutare to banana plug and fluke sells a thermocouple with banana plugs
23:46:01 <TheDude> unless your multimeter does cold junction compensation inside, you need it
23:46:50 <watcher> and where can I find if my dmm have old junction compensation?
23:46:50 <TheDude> the voltage that you observe on the open end of a thermocouple is dependent on the difference of the temperatures between the ends
23:47:04 <TheDude> which meter do you have?
23:47:10 <watcher> fluke 189
23:47:30 <watcher> no 187
23:47:54 <TheDude> let me find the manual
23:50:15 <TheDude> it does have CJC from what I can tell
23:50:36 <watcher> so i dont need the 80tk module?
23:50:40 <TheDude> nope
23:51:00 <K> yay 187 gang!
23:51:11 <Ampera> the only meter I have is the one that dave gave me as a gift
23:51:24 <TheDude> just an adapter so that you can connect the termocouple with blade terminals to the banana jacks
23:51:29 <Ampera> it does the beep when I want to know if thing have can sparky fly through power
23:51:38 <Ampera> I am electroshion
23:51:39 <TheDude> or the original fluke k-type probe
23:52:00 <TheDude> Ampera, which meter is that?
23:52:36 <Ampera> https://www.eevblog.com/product/pm300/
23:52:38 <EEVBot> [Title] - Sanwa PM300 Pocket Multimeter – EEVblog
23:52:46 <Ampera> This one, nothing fancy, but greatly appreciated and more than I'll ever need.
23:52:56 <TheDude> cute :3
23:53:00 <Ampera> yes
23:53:01 <Ampera> you are
23:53:01 <Ampera> <3
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