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00:07:17 <rust_collector> NEVEEERRRRR!!!
00:09:23 <eevBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - NEW Video on EEVblog2! Space Time Continuum with Fran Blanche https://t.co/H80GcMZ71h
00:09:27 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575356058818838539/839141624084037713/20210503_173641.jpg
00:09:33 <Ampera> These are neat little things
00:09:55 <Ampera> I don't know why, but I have a particular fascination with odd or unique outlets
00:14:33 <rust_collector> they look like they ate a Lemon
00:23:21 <rust_collector> I still think it makes sense to put those upside down
00:29:19 <Ampera> rust_collector, it does
00:29:32 <Ampera> I'm not sure, but I believe that's somewhat intended
00:29:46 <Ampera> such that if something falls on a half pulled plug, it falls more likely on the earth pin than anything else
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00:32:54 <Lemon> I dont get it. I managed to calibrate the adc board, to around 100ppm, linearity is good (I was sending a 1v signal, going up down), but as soon as I put a resistor divider, values are wrong
00:35:07 * Ampera squeezes the Lemon
00:44:08 <rust_collector> yes, I think I saw someone mention that they are "upside down" in hospitals. but I do not know.
00:52:32 Quit: Stiff ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
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00:58:28 <Lemon> hmmm do without a divider at the input, its stable down to 10-50 ppm (I think I can do better with averaging)
00:58:40 <Lemon> but with the divider, its horrible, like 50-100 times worse
00:59:02 <Lemon> and those resistors are quite decent, some vishay 25ppm/C, no way its temp related
00:59:23 <Lemon> probably a frequency thingie ? I have no idea
01:00:12 <steve30> o/
01:00:22 <steve30> Beer is done. Should be ready for drinking in a few weeks.
01:00:32 <rust_collector> everyone hide your coffee
01:00:56 <rust_collector> what kind are you making?
01:02:08 <steve30> https://www.woodfordes.com/beers/wherry/
01:02:13 <eevBot> [Title] - Wherry Beer | Woodforde's Brewery
01:02:32 <jaymax> I need this bot in my life
01:03:03 <TheDude> gentlemen
01:03:05 <steve30> I like bots that tell you the title of the link
01:03:10 <TheDude> how are you all doing today?
01:03:14 <rust_collector> eevBot give bot to jaymax
01:03:15 * eevBot hands bot to jaymax
01:03:15 <Ampera> Delightfully terrible
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01:03:32 <TheDude> how so?
01:03:44 <Ampera> Hedging my bets in case either one is incorrect
01:03:55 * jaymax tears the bot apart looking for the source code...fails
01:04:34 <TheDude> uhm
01:04:39 <TheDude> I just popped in
01:04:43 <TheDude> in case what is incorrect?
01:04:48 <rust_collector> pop pop
01:04:54 <Ampera> in case I am either not delightfully or terrible
01:05:03 <Ampera> proclaiming both means I am right at least half of the time
01:05:36 <rust_collector> electrohead jaymax wants your piton things
01:06:06 <TheDude> holding two countering positions isn't exactly good trading
01:06:12 <TheDude> you're net negative because of the funding
01:06:43 Join: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
01:26:22 Quit: Guest69 ([email protected]) Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
01:30:00 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
01:31:06 <Ysjoelfir> mornings the 2nd
01:31:15 <rust_collector> re-morning
01:34:21 <steve30> afternoon
01:34:29 * steve30 ponders curry
01:34:59 <Ysjoelfir> so, after my phone was annoying me by telling me every 30 minutes that its running our of disk space I finally gave in and added a random 1GB micro SD card card. now it shuts up.
01:35:17 * Ysjoelfir suggests Ysjoelfir style butter chicken to steve30
01:35:41 <steve30> sounds yummy
01:37:00 <Lemon> hey rusty wanna buy a gtx 1080 ?
01:37:23 <Ysjoelfir> it is, it is insanely yummy. do you have the recipe?
01:37:23 <rust_collector> not really no, I have no use for a tiny tiny door stop
01:37:27 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir 1GB ?? what the hell are you going to do with that much space ?
01:37:36 <Ampera> rust_collector, I can be your door stop
01:37:36 <Lemon> hehh tiny tiny idk
01:37:38 <Ampera> I am not tiny tiny
01:37:57 <rust_collector> yeah, Ampera seems more suited to this
01:38:04 <Ysjoelfir> lemon, I dunno, I don't do much with the phone. no idea why it was complaining in the first place
01:38:39 <Lemon> heh yeah im kind of the same, maybe various shit from system adding up updates after updates, a few pictures you got from whatsapp (wonder who !)
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01:40:07 <rust_collector> heh, I used to rent a little apartment, in an old factory building. my "neighbor" did have a drinking problem, and it was not uncommon for him to fall asleep just inside the door. I do not know how many times I had to push him across the floor, with the door.
01:40:25 <Ysjoelfir> lol
01:41:01 <rust_collector> Eh, at least he got home, and inside. even if he could not get upstairs
01:42:52 <Ysjoelfir> thats.... true
01:43:28 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir did you see my koalapigs?
01:44:29 <rust_collector> https://ibb.co/W6L22sb
01:44:30 <eevBot> [Title] - 16201003012806062053325462803453 — ImgBB
01:44:54 <rust_collector> One of my most successful projects
01:45:02 <Ysjoelfir> aww :D thats cute xD
01:45:18 <rust_collector> and wife had thrown them in the bin....
01:45:25 <Ysjoelfir> whyyy?
01:46:09 <rust_collector> one of them was out of battery, well, it was a ball of corrosion, so pretty much shorted.
01:46:35 <rust_collector> so, I put a battery in that one, and changed the leds. they had white leds.
01:46:53 <rust_collector> so, that was what I did around 6 in the morning
01:47:23 <Ysjoelfir> well worth it I would say. I think those are damn cute.
01:47:47 <rust_collector> well, some time between 1 and 6. I am not sure
01:48:44 <rust_collector> I do think they would be interesting with colourchanging leds
01:49:14 <Ysjoelfir> if its the slow changing variant I would totally support that.
01:49:18 <rust_collector> there was a 3rd similar sort of thing in the bin, maybe that one will get rescued
01:49:23 <rust_collector> yes, sloooowwwww
01:49:44 Quit: Guest69 ([email protected]) Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
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02:07:30 <Ysjoelfir> nile red has a new video, making transparent wood. interesting. also interesting to watch the old video as well
02:09:13 <rust_collector> I think I remember it did not go too well the last time
02:09:29 <Ysjoelfir> it kinda worked. but it was a bit meh
02:09:44 <rust_collector> now, if he could make transparent plywood....
02:10:00 <Ysjoelfir> that should be doable I think
02:10:31 <rust_collector> I think you would have to do it before you "ply it" probably, it is 20% glue...
02:10:43 <Ysjoelfir> yep, probably
02:11:04 <rust_collector> but hmm, transparent wooden box as a light could be fun
02:11:31 <rust_collector> nixie things...
02:12:02 <Ysjoelfir> don't give me strange ideas :P
02:12:13 <rust_collector> nothing strange about that....
02:12:43 <Ysjoelfir> well... yes, but.
02:13:03 Quit: Stiff ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
02:15:23 <rust_collector> you know you want a nicely dovetailed wooden nixie alarm-clock, right?
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02:16:13 <Ysjoelfir> Yes, I know that. Which is why I want to get some interesting looking woods. but for some reason wood is becoming very rare and expensive in germanistan
02:16:34 <rust_collector> wood is hard to find anywhere these days
02:17:46 <rust_collector> mom wanted to make some boxes to plant...plants in. and they only had weird pre-stained and propeller shaped boards left
02:19:01 <coppice> aren't boxes to plant usually called coffins?
02:19:40 <rust_collector> I don't know, I am not english
02:20:44 <Ysjoelfir> yep, same here. I am watching an old garage door on the ebay thing for some weeks now, it looks like decent hard wood, but they want me to take it completely, which.... would be to much for me. https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/garage-fluegeltor-holz-alt/1705753661-192-4351
02:20:45 <eevBot> [Title] - Error Page
02:23:15 <rust_collector> well, if you take it apart, it would not be a very large pile of boards... and clean up the ends, and it removes a bit.... At least it would be enough to make something actually useful out of.
02:24:01 <rust_collector> hmm, do you have too much to do these days?
02:25:30 <Ysjoelfir> I am more or less a bit in a state of lethargy or... stuff. erm. what is that called... procrastination or something like that
02:25:49 <rust_collector> right
02:26:06 <rust_collector> well, ok. maybe some other day
02:26:31 <Ysjoelfir> hm?
02:27:01 <rust_collector> I don't want to ruin your not doing anything period
02:27:20 <Ysjoelfir> lol. I should do stuff. I actually want to.
02:29:54 <rust_collector> ok, so we have to agree on something then....
02:32:12 <rust_collector> because I am sick of trying to draw a pcb, and I think it is a 20 minute job for you, lol. It is only borderline necessary to make a pcb at all for this thing. But it would be neater
02:34:26 <Ysjoelfir> sure, send over the schematic and I do that for you :)
03:09:28 <electrohead> o/
03:09:39 <electrohead> jaymax: so you're looking for source code?
03:09:42 <electrohead> eevBot: source code
03:09:42 <eevBot> electrohead: nega-tory, ghost rider!
03:09:45 <electrohead> xD
03:10:17 <rust_collector> needs a bit of work
03:16:32 <jaymax> electrohead yes. Is it posted on a git somewhere?
03:16:46 <electrohead> not yet
03:16:57 <electrohead> can I ask why you are curious about the source code?
03:16:58 <jaymax> Gonna presume some of the ... eccentricity ... woudln't be.
03:17:21 <jaymax> The LUG I am a member of has an IC.
03:17:32 <electrohead> IC?
03:17:34 <jaymax> s/IC/IRC/
03:18:04 <jaymax> Unless the bot is operating via a bridge form Matrux.
03:18:23 <jaymax> s/form Matrux/from Matrix, etc/
03:19:55 <electrohead> nah, just a python based bot, originally derived from a project I found on github
03:20:03 <electrohead> redone and modified
03:20:06 <electrohead> eevBot: about
03:20:06 <eevBot> I am eevBot v1.0, made in python, with love. Hear me roar.
03:20:17 <electrohead> eevBot: help
03:20:49 <jaymax> No help from bots, it seems. ;^)
03:22:37 <jaymax> Ah, would it be a re-worked https://github.com/tehron/tehbot ...?
03:22:38 <eevBot> [Title] - GitHub - tehron/tehbot: A Python IRC Bot
03:23:28 <jaymax> Link parsing would be the primary goal so I could mess with that one.
03:23:44 <electrohead> actually, yes, it does reply back, the help is sent via privmsg
03:23:46 <electrohead> try it :P
03:23:58 <jaymax> eevBot: help
03:25:00 <jaymax> eevBot: fart
03:25:02 * eevBot unleashes the demons upon everyone
03:25:07 <jaymax> LOL
03:26:49 <electrohead> :D
03:27:32 <electrohead> jaymax: did you receive a privmsg from me?
03:28:48 <electrohead> and, you can't send PM's on AustNet without registering
03:29:47 Join: arch ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
03:30:23 * arch hugs T3sl4 until he poots
03:30:37 * T3sl4 pollutes arch
03:30:39 * electrohead films
03:31:13 * rust_collector laminates electroheads film
03:32:36 * T3sl4 foils rust_collector
03:33:07 <rust_collector> mmmhmhhhmhmhhhmhmhmmmmmmmpmmmbbbbbbbhh
03:33:29 * electrohead shakes some sense into rust_collector
03:33:56 * arch mixes HCl with rust_collector to get some ferric chloride
03:34:13 * electrohead creates a few PCBs
03:34:16 <electrohead> lol
03:34:18 <electrohead> goofs
03:35:12 <electrohead> jaymax: did you get the link I sent you?
03:49:09 <rust_collector> hmm, talking about ferric chloride... do you mix it by weight or volume? I guess weight, as it is sort of fluffy-ish
03:58:00 Join: coppice_ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
03:58:00 Quit: coppice ([email protected]) EOF from client
03:59:01 <electrohead> EOF == end of fuck?
03:59:11 <electrohead> sorry, that came to mind for .. 2 seconds, lol
04:00:42 <Ysjoelfir> lol
04:19:36 * Ampera hugs electrohead
04:23:10 <rust_collector> ok, soooo..... this had me confused a little bit:
04:23:20 <rust_collector> The GP189 battery is not a battery, so it cannot be charged.
04:23:26 <Ysjoelfir> lol
04:23:31 <Ysjoelfir> this battery is not a battery
04:23:35 <Ysjoelfir> great marketing
04:23:53 <rust_collector> yes, very clever
04:27:10 <electrohead> Lol
04:27:13 * electrohead face hugs Ampera
04:27:19 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
04:27:33 <electrohead> fucking amazing.
04:27:34 <electrohead> you?
04:28:25 <Ampera> Annoyed at planned parenthood for being incompetent, besides that, mildly tired
04:29:11 <electrohead> lol
04:33:09 <rust_collector> oh well, I guess that means I can not replace the battery in this calculator.... awwww
04:33:33 <electrohead> you could always hack something up?
04:33:48 <rust_collector> I do have an axe...
04:34:17 <rust_collector> I think it would work, if I put a battery in it
04:34:31 <rust_collector> even if the original battery is not a battery
04:41:30 * rust_collector is burping burnt cheese gas
04:42:11 * T3sl4 captures the gas and burns it again
04:43:10 <rust_collector> can it be used to refill lighters, maybe?
04:44:24 <T3sl4> um... sure i guess, it'll be a heavier tho
04:48:14 <electrohead> fuck, I can't locate my carolina reaper seeds :/
04:48:23 <electrohead> I .. think I accidentally threw them out in the past
04:48:24 <electrohead> >.<
04:49:31 <rust_collector> well, the last time you were drinking, you did mention eating some seeds, then complained that your stomach was upset... I DON'T KNOW????
04:52:44 <electrohead> lol
04:52:48 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
04:53:04 <electrohead> nah, I haven't touched them in a long time, however I did clean out that cupboard within the last year
04:53:08 <electrohead> for all I know, I tossed them
04:53:10 <electrohead> whoops
04:55:27 <Reg7805> shit my calculus assignment on word is not saving, it says "A file error occurred" > very helpful
05:00:49 <electrohead> try saving it to a new file?
05:01:00 <Reg7805> dont know what it is causing it, but I have copied evrthing the word doc to a new doc, problem solved
05:02:14 <Reg7805> hoping i will soon transfer over to libreoffice, anyway
05:09:53 <Lemon> hey peeps, anybody could help me ? :> im playing with an ADS1256 24 bit adc board, with an ADR03 Vref built in. When I directly measure something (after a rough calibration), its stable down to 100ppm, approximatively. But when I use a simple voltage divider with a 1M and 33K resistor, its like 10, 100 times worse !
05:10:07 <Kuschelpony> a quick quesation about a flyback transformer i might wind the next weeks:
05:10:14 <Lemon> I tried to put a metal box over the divider, to see if it was acting as an antenna but it changed nothing
05:10:26 <electrohead> Reg7805: libreoffice has never let me down
05:10:53 <Kuschelpony> i understand that the field around the gap in cores like ETD leds to major losses if there is thick wire close over the gap
05:11:47 <Kuschelpony> but is this also an issue if i have an high voltage winding in thin wire like 0,15mm ?
05:12:20 <Reg7805> well, i will transfer to libreoffice soon(after 1 month when college is finished), becuase i acutally like it more with more functions and hopefully migrate to linux complely
05:12:58 <Kuschelpony> to Lemon: have you placed a capacitor to ground after the voltage divider? i dont know your ADC but many of them have some input current pulses while convertig, so they need a source that has low impedance
05:13:27 <Lemon> no I haven't ! I can maybe try yes, what kind of cap should I use ?
05:14:28 <Lemon> im using two differential inputs to measure voltage with that board, should I put the cap to one of the inputs then ?
05:14:35 <Lemon> as the voltage divider is between those two inputs
05:16:03 <Kuschelpony> hmm, if its an differentil input then things could be different, i was trhinkling about a single ended input that directly connects to internal netorks of the ADC
05:16:18 <Kuschelpony> then i dont know without diving deeper into the datasheet
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05:16:50 <Lemon> alright no problem
05:16:57 <electrohead> Reg7805: if you need help migrating to linux officially/fully, let me know!
05:17:04 <Lemon> im a bit lost with this thing tbh, I lurked around to find a code, tried to learn it etc
05:17:11 <arch> linux is love, linux is life
05:17:48 <electrohead> and, I'm buying habanero red caribbean seeds, and bhut jolokia purple seeds
05:17:53 <electrohead> to change it up :)
05:18:14 * electrohead rubs arch all over arch
05:18:37 * electrohead tosses a dragon's milk beer towards T3sl4
05:18:58 <Reg7805> thanks electrohead, i have been using popOS becuase it the best distro working with my motherboard, sadly i had alot of problems in other distros, the only problem i have is the sound card now I havent figured it out yet
05:20:34 <Reg7805> i have been using vm aside to figure out, what to replace my current programs with
05:21:26 <T3sl4> electrohead, a fine choice
05:22:27 <electrohead> Reg7805: popOS works best with your motherboard? I don't understand; what works, and what doesn't?
05:22:53 <electrohead> T3sl4: I always picked up one of these - https://www.flyingdog.com/beers/raging-bitch/
05:22:54 <eevBot> [Title] - Raging Bitch - Flying Dog Brewery
05:22:59 <electrohead> was able to purchase a single of that
05:23:00 <electrohead> :)
05:23:20 <electrohead> I'm in a celebration mood >.>
05:23:40 <T3sl4> ah
05:24:03 <Reg7805> i haved a lot drivers issues, like when put the pc to sleep and when back up again pc will just freeze, sound just does not work > soundvlaster recon3di
05:24:24 <Reg7805> i have x99 gigabyte mobo
05:25:20 <Reg7805> popOS just worked, accept the sound issue
05:25:57 <Reg7805> i have tried fedora other day, everything was working accept the sound, there using pipewire now
05:27:54 <electrohead> the sound card: I'm guessing that's built into the motherboard?
05:27:56 <Reg7805> i will to try difrent distros again, becuase it was wile ago i have try them again, i had graphics issues at first, but that was happing becuase of the driver
05:28:01 <Reg7805> yep
05:28:23 <Reg7805> i have external sound amplifier, that one just works
05:28:51 <electrohead> ahh ok
05:28:54 <electrohead> hrmm
05:29:00 <Reg7805> but i do need the onboard sound card working
05:29:03 <electrohead> I'd have to see logs, to see what's going on
05:29:19 <electrohead> do you have an external sound card to get by?
05:29:33 <Reg7805> yes, but tempoary
05:30:04 <Reg7805> wah IRC chat should i use on linux?
05:30:18 <Reg7805> so i will start setting up now
05:30:20 <electrohead> there are a few clients that exist
05:30:27 <electrohead> irssi, weechat, hexchat, bitchX
05:30:36 <electrohead> to name the four off the top of my head
05:30:41 <Reg7805> ok i will look at them
05:30:43 <electrohead> me personally, I use weechat
05:30:59 <electrohead> irssi is system resources friendly
05:31:08 <Reg7805> how do i get my logs?
05:31:27 <Reg7805> for sound issues anyway
05:33:18 <rust_collector> you should use weechat for irc, or one of the more gui type ones, if you like. on fedora, who the hell knows where to do anything? it is probably some systemd whatever thing
05:34:15 <Reg7805> well im not familiar with arch based distros, so i will stick to popOS for now
05:34:17 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) EOF from client
05:35:15 <Halcyon> Morning al
05:35:19 * Halcyon pokes electrohead
05:35:28 <Halcyon> *all
05:35:32 <rust_collector> dmesg something something should give you hints
05:36:08 <electrohead> Reg7805: https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/2021-05-04-153103_1600x900_scrotmod1.png
05:36:13 <electrohead> that's my layout of weechat
05:36:19 * electrohead gets poked and loves it
05:37:27 <Halcyon> Weeeee
05:37:31 <Reg7805> thats good layout, cool that you can customize it, i like that
05:39:26 <electrohead> Reg7805: dmesg and journalctl, mainly, if your distro uses journalctl
05:40:24 <Reg7805> okay, i will soon start looking at it, just need finish a thing or two on windows before rebooting
05:40:59 <electrohead> ok cool
05:41:04 <electrohead> I'll be here the rest of the day
05:41:12 <electrohead> what time is it there, for you?
05:41:28 <Reg7805> 20:41 uk time zone
05:41:54 <electrohead> (to note - you can set your timezone with "eevbot timeset <timezone>" and then anyone can just "eevbot time Reg7805" and see what time it is, there)
05:42:10 <electrohead> `op
05:42:10 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o electrohead
05:42:49 <electrohead> Gah, denied
05:43:05 <electrohead> tried setting the topic to include a help command for eevBot
05:43:15 Mode: (by electrohead) -o electrohead
05:43:36 <Halcyon> :P
05:43:56 <Halcyon> eevbot time halcyon
05:43:57 <eevBot> No time zone data found for halcyon!
05:43:59 <Halcyon> Dammit
05:44:07 <Halcyon> eevbot time Australia/Sydney
05:44:08 <eevBot> No time zone data found for Australia/Sydney!
05:44:12 <Halcyon> eevbot timeset Australia/Sydney
05:44:13 <eevBot> Halcyon: time zone updated!
05:44:16 <Halcyon> eevbot time halcyon
05:44:17 <eevBot> No time zone data found for halcyon!
05:44:21 <Halcyon> Fuck it
05:44:30 <rust_collector> RTFM!!!! damnit
05:44:34 <Halcyon> No
05:44:35 <Halcyon> I refuse
05:44:41 <rust_collector> And I agree
05:44:55 <T3sl4> i concur
05:44:57 <rust_collector> I just wanted to say that some time
05:45:27 <electrohead> o.O
05:45:32 * electrohead looks at something for you
05:45:36 <Reg7805> eevbot timeset <GMT+1>
05:45:37 <eevBot> Reg7805: we need a (proper) time zone to save!
05:46:07 <rust_collector> eevBot timeset Europe/Misnk
05:46:07 <eevBot> rust_collector: we need a (proper) time zone to save!
05:46:11 <T3sl4> eevBot: time T3sl4
05:46:12 <eevBot> It is currently 2021/05/04 14:46:11 where T3sl4 resides.
05:46:13 <rust_collector> WHOOOOAAA!
05:46:35 <rust_collector> eevBot time rust_collector
05:46:37 <eevBot> It is currently 2021/05/04 21:46:36 where rust_collector resides.
05:46:41 <rust_collector> tadda
05:46:43 <Halcyon> Well aren't you fancy
05:46:48 <T3sl4> eevBot: time Halcyon
05:46:49 <eevBot> It is currently 2021/05/05 05:46:48 where Halcyon resides.
05:46:52 <Halcyon> Weeeee
05:47:06 <Halcyon> Ah crap, I need to finish getting ready for work
05:47:08 <Halcyon> Laters
05:47:11 <T3sl4> o/
05:47:21 <electrohead> Reg7805: there's a link within the help for eevbot "eevBot help"
05:47:42 <electrohead> eevbot time halcyon
05:47:43 <eevBot> No time zone data found for halcyon!
05:47:47 <electrohead> eevbot time Halcyon
05:47:47 <eevBot> It is currently 2021/05/05 05:47:47 where Halcyon resides.
05:47:50 <electrohead> heh
05:47:57 <electrohead> case sensitive for nicks
05:48:01 <electrohead> just a heads up
05:48:03 <electrohead> :P
05:48:07 <Halcyon> Who's fault is that?
05:48:15 <Halcyon> Mmmmmm ? P
05:48:16 <Halcyon> :P
05:48:48 <electrohead> not mine, it's yoursa
05:48:51 <electrohead> yours*
05:49:12 <electrohead> unless, you want me to make the bot case insensitive to nicks
05:49:14 <electrohead> :p
05:49:56 <rust_collector> that is an idea....
05:50:16 <electrohead> well, I'm a *nix guy, and I like having stuff case sensitive
05:50:19 <electrohead> so deal with it.
05:50:24 * electrohead runs
05:53:09 * rust_collector chops off electroheads legs
05:54:11 <electrohead> lol
06:00:56 <rust_collector> it had to be done
06:04:12 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/a/R8jamJu/
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06:05:09 <rust_collector> HEEEY!!! And they yelled at me, just because I took apart one of those blood pressure measuring thingies....
06:07:17 <T3sl4> well, should've done one of those, no shortage of blood now
06:16:38 <Reg7805> okay electrohead, just letting you know im downloading and installing the newsest popOS version> make sure there is no funny bussines and and everything is stock
06:21:42 <rust_collector> more people should use red star os. i mean, it has kde3 and all the cool stuff
06:22:54 <Reg7805> freeware spyware also
06:23:19 <rust_collector> yes, it is like having a free cloud service
06:23:34 <rust_collector> just phone kim, and ask if he can send your pics back
06:23:57 <Reg7805> lol
06:29:48 <flyback> Reg7805, nice nick
06:31:06 <Reg7805> :)
06:31:20 <rust_collector> I like how he can just change to 7905, when he is talking about arch and stuff like that
06:37:50 <hsn> Ai
06:38:05 <rust_collector> hullo
06:38:11 <hsn> Halo
06:38:31 <T3sl4> halon
06:38:50 <rust_collector> *sniff sniff*
06:39:01 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/9v8ure1kfWEpg6mu7
06:39:42 <rust_collector> careful, you might get a steve
06:39:54 <hsn> My car reached home address today
06:39:56 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/StcZ95Rdkbve4iar7
06:40:09 <hsn> 127.0.0.1
06:40:51 <rust_collector> very nerd
06:40:53 <hsn> rust_collector: a steve is managable .. 30 steves is not
06:41:04 <hsn> Or 300 ..
06:41:13 <rust_collector> it can be enough with one.
06:41:37 <rust_collector> so, has it been around the clock already, or is that car almost new?
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06:44:11 <hsn> no
06:44:15 <hsn> it was in japan
06:44:17 <hsn> for long time
06:44:33 <hsn> imported with 33k KM
06:44:36 <hsn> Km
06:44:42 <rust_collector> right.
06:44:56 <hsn> then from 2012 or somthing maybe .. its with me ..
06:45:11 <rust_collector> and... that is still 127k, that is nothing
06:45:35 <hsn> u never know if japaneese played with the meter .. but i dont think so .. it looked very new ..
06:46:01 <hsn> will yeah .. bahrain from start to end is 60km or somthing ..
06:47:12 <hsn> and home to work is somthing like 10km
06:48:08 <hsn> ey T3sl4 did u try that starbucks thingy
06:48:22 <T3sl4> hmm?
06:48:42 <rust_collector> if you disable all the extra crap they added to that car, you can let your kids have it, when you die.
06:48:42 <hsn> cold full of carbs and fat thingy as u stated ?
06:49:12 <hsn> rust_collector, im thinking to change it within 2-3 years :)
06:49:21 <T3sl4> i mean i've had em before :P
06:49:48 <hsn> u could have another one on me :P
06:51:02 <hsn> rust_collector, my wife doesnt allow me to take the 1000$ from the contest of the bank
06:51:13 <hsn> she says its haram money ..
06:51:31 <hsn> i keep telling her the first 2 scores .. are cheaters .. like me :)
06:51:39 <rust_collector> contest of the bank?
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06:52:54 <hsn> a bank here did contest of game ..
06:52:55 <hsn> wait
06:53:11 <hsn> https://ilabank.gamiphy.co/
06:53:11 <eevBot> [Title] - ila Game
06:53:15 <hsn> here
06:53:29 <hsn> 800$ actually
06:53:45 <hsn> the first winner in bahrain gets it
06:54:10 <hsn> the game is javascript which runs on browser .. so u can play with the score .. :D
06:54:38 <hsn> with shitty session that communicates with their server to detect cheaters ..
06:55:04 <hsn> i wounder if that leaderboard is XSS proof .. :)
06:55:29 <rust_collector> woohoo! and in bahrain, driving safe means jumping over other cars... that is interesting
06:56:05 <hsn> driving safe is by driving and playing on such game at same time
06:56:20 <hsn> drive with twice the attentions
06:56:30 <rust_collector> ah, yes, exactly
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06:57:00 <hsn> so what i should do .. let the 800$ go to another cheater ?
06:57:24 <hsn> in some games i played though .. i was flagged as fraud .. so i should create another account
06:58:32 <rust_collector> meh, give them to the wife, and see if they are still pingpong
06:59:09 <hsn> she wont take
07:00:11 <hsn> cheating is haram hsn cant cheat
07:00:34 <rust_collector> well, just win?
07:00:38 <hsn> but im thinking to be 2nd person .. and get 0$ .. and then share the story to social media of the bank
07:01:00 <hsn> publishing shitty game ..
07:01:25 <hsn> and ask to hire me to expose shitty games before publish
07:01:33 <hsn> and leave my slaving company
07:01:36 <hsn> and be slave at banks
07:01:44 <Ampera> Here, safe driving is strapping wheels and a V8 into a large bank safe, and then taking it on the highway
07:01:46 <hsn> no ?
07:02:06 <hsn> V8 engine ?
07:02:25 <rust_collector> that is the safe choice in the us of a
07:03:18 <hsn> Ampera, T3sl4, do u know what init,fini functions have ?
07:03:34 <Ampera> init,fini?
07:03:41 <hsn> in c/c++
07:03:51 <hsn> the stuff before main()
07:04:08 <hsn> in embedded , no system ..
07:04:19 <hsn> or in linux as well .
07:04:33 <T3sl4> how do they "have"?
07:04:45 <T3sl4> they have code i guess
07:04:50 <Ampera> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.programmer/c/HXKw66TfBZg/m/LGHlE71KAwcJ
07:04:51 <eevBot> [Title] - What is the perpose of _fini, _info & _init?
07:04:53 <hsn> :D .. yes .. functionalty
07:05:05 <Ampera> I'd check linux docs
07:05:27 <Ampera> I don't know if that exists in other kernels, I've never heard of it myself
07:05:49 <T3sl4> it's in the compiler docs, platform dependent
07:05:49 <hsn> i think its in all other os
07:06:15 <hsn> i think its .. hmm makes ur executable work with the c run time lib .. passes argv argc .. into main
07:06:19 <hsn> in os based ..
07:06:28 <hsn> but idk what it does in ARM bare metal stuff
07:06:42 <Ampera> I have never done anything but userland programming pretty much
07:07:08 <T3sl4> exit or whatever it's called, is just an infinite loop on embedded, shouldn't be much of anything on an OS just a return or SIGSTOP or something idk
07:07:44 <hsn> This feature is utilized by compilers to implement global constructors and destructors in C++.
07:08:00 <T3sl4> init stuff is because, C requires all objects already in memory, on an OS it loads the overlay into memory for you and just jumps into main more or less, easy enough
07:08:39 <T3sl4> without OS, init does that for you, basically a memcpy from rom for all the init stuff (.data) and a memset(0) for all the clear stuff (.bss)
07:08:57 <hsn> T3sl4, wait .. let me tells u
07:09:07 <hsn> what is confusing me
07:10:40 <hsn> https://pastebin.com/mrBY6Tsw
07:10:41 <eevBot> [Title] - void Reset_Handler(void){ uint32_t *pSrc, *pDest; /* Initi - Pastebin.com
07:11:12 <hsn> line 3 to line 18 .. do the .data and .bss
07:12:05 <hsn> but
07:12:12 <hsn> line 42
07:12:16 <hsn> is .. hmm .. idk
07:12:26 <hsn> then
07:12:31 <hsn> there is this stack
07:12:35 <hsn> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15265295/understanding-the-libc-init-array
07:12:36 <eevBot> [Title] - gcc - understanding the __libc_init_array - Stack Overflow
07:13:11 <hsn> the answer there points to this file https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=newlib-cygwin.git;a=blob_plain;f=newlib/libc/misc/init.c;hb=HEAD
07:13:12 <eevBot> [Title] - sourceware.org Git - newlib-cygwin.git/summary
07:13:24 <hsn> which makes no sense .. it just call functions array .. hmm what ??
07:15:07 <T3sl4> i assume that's to init all the shit that gets pulled in from libs that the linker doesn't know about so can't chuck into the other init function
07:15:17 <T3sl4> cuz functions are only compiled by the compiler
07:15:32 <hsn> yeah they are provided by arm
07:15:39 <hsn> as .o or .a idk ..
07:16:05 <T3sl4> afaik .a is an archive of .o's
07:16:14 <T3sl4> you can inspect them with objdump and whatnot
07:17:28 <hsn> .lib then ? idk .. one of them .. they are in arm gcc toolchain afaik ..
07:17:38 <hsn> probably in crt0.o ? or somthing ?
07:19:28 <hsn> related to the safety critical softwares .. shouldnt the "atexit" function after main do some alarm or reset critical stuff ??
07:20:07 <T3sl4> beats me, that's your problem. why is main returning at all?
07:20:30 <hsn> a bug happened .. hmmm no ?
07:20:47 <hsn> comsmic ray happened in cpu .. :D
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07:21:55 <hsn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray#Effect_on_electronics
07:21:58 <eevBot> [Title] - Cosmic ray - Wikipedia
07:22:41 <hsn> im just being paranoid .. normal hsn i guess ?
07:23:25 <hsn> anyway i've to leave .. c u later .. i tried to find arm document related to the __preinit_array_start[i]();
07:23:28 <hsn> but no luck
07:23:31 <hsn> or _init();
07:23:36 <hsn> so maybe later ..
07:23:36 <hsn> cya
07:25:47 <T3sl4> think you'll be better off just disassembling what it actually puts into your binary
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07:35:50 <Reg7805> guys, the Thetest user is me, learning to use weechat on linux pc, so i might disconnect often
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07:49:51 * electrohead is back
07:49:57 <Ampera> hi back
07:49:59 <Ampera> I'm ampera
07:50:12 * electrohead slaps Ampera with the front
07:50:15 <electrohead> :P
07:50:23 <Ampera> :D
07:54:08 <electrohead> Reg7805: how are you liking weechat?
07:54:51 <Reg7805> i have been messing around, i like it , i will study the program
07:55:07 <Reg7805> i was just about to reboot now
07:55:24 <Reg7805> so i will see yous soon
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07:57:40 <electrohead> `access -
08:01:34 * T3sl4 drops a bobby tables on electrohead
08:02:02 <electrohead> lol
08:02:12 <rust_collector> teletubbies! nananana nana nana POOO!
08:02:58 <electrohead> there's something wrong with that rust_collector guy
08:04:13 <rust_collector> There's something wrong with the world today I don't know what it is Something's wrong with our eyes We're seeing things in a different way And God knows it ain't his It sure ain't no surprise, yeah
08:06:42 <rust_collector> lalala
08:12:55 <T3sl4> you're livin on the edge, rust_collector
08:13:30 <rust_collector> yes, that, and lalala
08:16:27 <electrohead> lol
08:16:42 <electrohead> I'm off to possibly take a nap, ttyl everyone o/
08:16:56 <T3sl4> o/
08:18:50 <rust_collector> When new creatures rape your face Hybrids opened up the door
08:18:56 <rust_collector> trololololooo
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09:01:24 <Reg7805> well on linux with weechat now
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10:43:23 <Reg7805> anybody here?
10:46:04 <jaymax> No
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11:04:44 <hsn> Yes
11:19:10 <rust_collector> maybe?
11:19:35 * alfbaz wonders what the question was
11:20:30 <rust_collector> oh, we don't care about that here, as long as people gets an answer
11:21:13 <alfbaz> ok my answere is no, not today
11:21:36 <rust_collector> ok. that is a pretty safe answer
11:28:06 <alfbaz> Is this why poeple stay logged in, to see chat history in the logs or is it to keep user numbers up on the channel, or something else?
11:32:13 <rust_collector> I think it depends. I do not think we get any points for having a large number of people here.
11:36:04 <hsn> rust_collector:
11:36:35 <hsn> https://imgur.com/a/r6GiC8d
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11:36:46 <hsn> U like food
11:38:31 <hsn> alfbaz: me staying online is bcz im using znc on some server
11:39:03 <hsn> Bcz ive lots of connect disconnect problem which annoys me and others
11:40:48 <hsn> I think most dont have time to see chat logs as its mostly random stuff anyway
11:41:39 <rust_collector> haha, you make it sound like you have other things to do?
11:41:41 <rust_collector> lol
11:42:03 <rust_collector> so, are you almost done with your ramadan thing?
11:42:05 <hsn> I said most lol
11:42:14 <hsn> Yes few days more
11:42:19 <hsn> 7 or something
11:43:02 <rust_collector> or, did I go there, and annoy all you people with serving free porkchops with bacon stew
11:43:30 <coppice_> alfbaz: people want the immediacy of interactive communications, while ignoring many of your responses for several days
11:43:33 <hsn> That is free food iftar "break fasting" in iraq
11:44:27 <rust_collector> so, a week, eh?
11:44:35 <hsn> rust_collector: why would u do such ugly action
11:44:52 <hsn> Serve somthing uneatabld ? :P
11:45:00 <rust_collector> anyway, I am making a chocolate cake, because I am trying to do husband sort of things
11:45:01 <hsn> Un eatable
11:45:08 <rust_collector> oh, plenty of people eat that
11:45:18 <hsn> Not to these ppl
11:45:33 <hsn> rust_collector: wife is tricking u .
11:45:34 <rust_collector> well, I will just say it is whale
11:45:37 <rust_collector> I know
11:45:49 <rust_collector> it is her bornday today
11:45:59 <hsn> Its wifes thing. . dont fall into it .. next day u ll be cleaning their dishes. .
11:46:19 <rust_collector> and as I got cake(that I can not really eat) on my bornday... I will make her something
11:46:23 <hsn> Happy born day
11:46:53 <hsn> Hah nice .. u into pranks now
11:47:02 <hsn> Uneatable cakes?
11:47:03 <rust_collector> we will see....
11:47:06 <rust_collector> no no
11:47:38 <rust_collector> it should be possible to eat them. the point is that she has to ask me to not do that next year, or ever again
11:47:44 <hsn> Enjoys and best wishes
11:47:49 <alfbaz> excuse the ignorance but is ramadan similar to lent?
11:48:01 <hsn> Lent means?
11:48:26 <hsn> No eating days in lent?
11:48:32 <rust_collector> ramadan is when they fast, and spend their time on allah things
11:48:42 <alfbaz> fasting and giving up things for some time... not sure
11:48:54 <alfbaz> for christians
11:49:01 <rust_collector> lent. I have heard that word.
11:49:18 <hsn> Yeah sort of .. different but same concepts
11:49:36 <rust_collector> oh yes, it is before easter, isn't it?
11:49:51 <hsn> Yea
11:49:56 <hsn> I think
11:50:15 <hsn> Lent is no eat meat and stuff i think
11:50:22 <rust_collector> eeh, internet says: Lent... blahblahblah
11:50:22 <alfbaz> yeah if I remember right something to do with jesus spending 40 days in the desert being tempted by the devil
11:50:29 <rust_collector> oh, ok
11:50:49 <rust_collector> yes, it says it is 40 days
11:50:53 <alfbaz> yeah the no meat friday thing
11:51:00 <hsn> But we eat alot .. after fasting .. more than usual lol
11:51:04 <hsn> Fancy food
11:51:18 <hsn> No desert stuff .. even if we are in the desert ..
11:51:25 <hsn> We also eat deserts
11:51:35 <alfbaz> lol at typo
11:51:36 <rust_collector> so I guess I should send people out in the desert... this will be good.
11:52:07 <rust_collector> jesus the mexican plumber told me to
11:52:36 <coppice_> hsn: there is a popular Chinese des(s)ert which literally translates as red bean sand
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11:57:39 <rust_collector> well, this is annoying. the cake is more or less ready to go in the incinerator, but... it is a bit early, I guess
11:57:54 <rust_collector> .......or is it?
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12:41:54 <rust_collector> hsn ?
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13:03:38 <rust_collector> morning Kuschelpony. is it an ok morning down there?
13:03:52 <Sierra> Hi New member here
13:04:11 <rust_collector> hello, new member
13:04:33 <Sierra> it is evening here
13:05:09 <rust_collector> soooo, you are in the us of a?
13:05:17 <rust_collector> it is 5 in the morning here
13:06:31 <Sierra> Oh... Good Morning. Want to get helps for HP 8596 Spectrum analyzer. But don't know how to post
13:07:10 <rust_collector> well, there is a test gear section on the forum?
13:08:26 <rust_collector> I mean, I don't know anything about those, maybe someone here does, but there are much much more people on the forum
13:08:43 <rust_collector> what sort of problem do you have with it?
13:09:57 <Sierra> Thank you. Pass freq cal, but Failed on Amp cal.
13:11:06 <Sierra> Cal peak looks normal w/o correction. Could be a wrong cal in past caused the issue
13:11:48 <rust_collector> do they give you some sort of error code? well, I should not say anything about it, because I have no idea anyway, lol
13:13:41 <Sierra> Thank you! Please advise how to post a help post? Need go to a specific forum?
13:14:54 <rust_collector> I would try here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/
13:14:57 <eevBot> [Title] - Test Equipment - Page 1
13:16:00 <Sierra> Thank you!
13:16:06 <rust_collector> or here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/
13:16:09 <eevBot> [Title] - Repair - Page 1
13:16:21 <rust_collector> looking at the posts, I guess that could be a better place, maybe
13:16:40 <rust_collector> yes, I think the last link might be a better place
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15:04:03 <rust_collector> I wonder why I turn into a chunky clive clone every time I can not sleep. I modified a lightbulb again...
15:05:02 <rust_collector> and I am not even sure if it made any difference. I just do not feel like measuring anything. But htat is ok, I have not measured the old one either
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15:35:00 <alfbaz_> l
15:35:07 <steve30> hi
15:35:18 <alfbaz_> hi steve
15:36:11 <rust_collector> evening
15:37:01 <alfbaz_> guten tag
15:37:45 <alfbaz_> sorry I meant gluten tag, a tag they place on food with gluten in it :P
15:41:06 <alfbaz_> what a tough crowd, I thought that was hilarious 8)
15:44:22 <rust_collector> yeah.... fun fun
15:44:33 <rust_collector> I was washing my coffemaker, lol
15:46:54 <alfbaz_> do you make a cuppa outa the dregs?
15:47:31 <alfbaz_> it's a bit like drinking bong water :P
15:48:09 <rust_collector> ah, I should try that
15:48:23 <alfbaz_> what drink bong water?
15:48:37 <rust_collector> yeah, if that is similar...
15:48:53 <alfbaz_> it's like shit tea
15:49:13 <alfbaz_> ... with a smokey flavour
15:49:20 <rust_collector> oh, I do not really like tea that much
15:49:47 <alfbaz_> me neither, trying to like it though
15:50:57 <rust_collector> good luck. you shoudl talk to Ysjoelf, he is into hipster things like that
15:53:04 <alfbaz_> not that hipster here, in oz we haven't fallen far from the english tree
15:53:45 <rust_collector> steve is engrish, he does not dislike coffee
15:55:36 <steve30> mmm, coffee
15:55:48 <rust_collector> see?
15:55:52 <alfbaz_> lol
15:57:16 <alfbaz_> My quack said I have to cut down 1 to 2 a day... I have 3 to 4 before a make a move in the mornings :(
15:59:12 <rust_collector> bong waters?
16:00:06 <rust_collector> my dr doctor tells me all sorts of things... He probably has a point, most of the time
16:01:16 <alfbaz_> I gotta listen to him now, I haven't in the past so last week I had a coronary "event"
16:02:45 <rust_collector> meh, that is up to you. plenty of people have several events
16:03:24 <alfbaz_> it wasn't all bad I got a couple of weeks off work :P
16:04:13 <rust_collector> there are easier ways to get that. this is my second week off, just because I said there was something with my elbow.
16:05:06 <alfbaz_> what too much tennis or the other thing nobody admits :P
16:05:41 <rust_collector> well, it does not have anything to do with tennis
16:05:48 <alfbaz_> LOL
16:07:06 <rust_collector> it was interesting, in a way. it is tendonitis, that somehow got into the elbow joint, dr doctor said. I did not even notice, until I saw it in the mirror one evening
16:11:37 <rust_collector> turns out the trick to getting time off, where I work, is to try to get to work. i had a monday off, to go to the doctor guy, then said I would come on wednesday, but boss said he had covered my shifts that week. Then, on thursday, I think it was, I asked about next(this) week, and he said "shift xx, yy, and xyxy, if that is ok" so I say ok, and he says he has covered my shifts this week also...
16:15:35 <steve30> i need to pop out for some shopping while the weather is nice
16:15:50 <rust_collector> woohoo!
16:16:05 <rust_collector> buy some stuff you need, while you are there
16:21:34 <alfbaz_> I got Dr's note til next week but I got a feeling works gonna sk me for a clearance cert for the Dr which is gonna suck cause I dont see him for anothe 5 weeks
16:24:32 <rust_collector> I am thinking about maybe measuring the lightbulbs I have messed with. because... I don't knwo what they are doing, lol
16:26:47 <alfbaz_> what bulbs
16:29:34 <rust_collector> generic cheap led bulbs. these ones are called "energy+"
16:30:04 <rust_collector> I think that is a house brand, but they are similar to most, I guess
16:31:47 <rust_collector> the first one, I just changed the resistors for the regulator thingie in, and it is less bright, so I guess it works in that way, but it does get warm, which makes sense, as it is just a linear regulator.
16:32:26 <alfbaz_> ah ok so they're not all in one mains powered
16:32:32 <rust_collector> the latest one, I put a capacitor in, and that is maybe a little bit more dim, but it laso runs cool
16:32:34 <rust_collector> yes, they are
16:33:16 <rust_collector> regular e27 screw type
16:33:42 <alfbaz_> are you opening them up or adding res/cap externally
16:34:17 <rust_collector> I open them. as I do nto want to mess with the lamp, in case we want some other sort of bulb in it some time
16:35:36 <alfbaz_> I don't know squat about these new fangled lights. Its been 15+ years since I worked in the "normal" electrical world
16:37:34 <rust_collector> meh, I don't think there is all that much to know. but I like having a pretty low powered one, as I leave it on all the time, it just has to be enough light that I don't crash into the piano at night
16:49:07 <alfbaz_> I feel like I've missed an oppertunity by not going high tech with the lighting in my new shed/lab. Bog standard fluros when I could of gone something fancier, especially with the conrtol side of things
16:49:54 <rust_collector> eeh, I dunno? they tend to work, and for a long time...
16:50:22 <alfbaz_> yeah that's what I'm telling myself as comfort
16:52:22 <rust_collector> the tubes in my garage was there from around 1990 to a year or three ago, before it needed to be replaced.... Now the lamp housing things are falling apart, so I guess i have to do something
17:00:04 <alfbaz_> over here they're called tomb stones and arre easily replaced, the wires a usually single strand and come out by insertinmg a small flat srew driver into a slot. This releases the wire. It then simply pushes back in to the new one. We replaced hundreds of them over the years as they become brittle over time and when someone replaces a tube the crumble and fall appart
17:01:25 <alfbaz_> For us it was less work changing the guts of fluros and it was cheaper for the client. win, win
17:01:29 <rust_collector> yeah, these are screw clamp things. the spring style did not really get popular until... Oh, I guess 20 years ago, lol
17:02:06 <hsn> maybe
17:02:11 <rust_collector> nah
17:02:16 <hsn> no?
17:02:21 <rust_collector> ok!
17:02:30 <alfbaz_> mayber tomorrow
17:02:33 <rust_collector> are you properly watered up for the day?
17:02:51 <hsn> maybe 1 liter ..
17:02:59 <rust_collector> so not really?
17:03:07 <hsn> i could use 1 more
17:03:22 <rust_collector> bad camel!
17:03:32 <hsn> :c
17:03:49 <rust_collector> you need bigger humps
17:03:55 <hsn> ,,__
17:03:55 <hsn> .. .. / o._) .---.
17:03:55 <hsn> /--'/--\ \-'|| .----. .' '.
17:03:55 <hsn> / \_/ / | .' '..' '-.
17:03:55 <hsn> .'\ \__\ __.'.' .' i-._
17:03:56 <hsn> )\ | )\ | _.'
17:03:57 <hsn> // \\ // \\
17:03:59 <hsn> ||_ \\|_ \\_
17:04:03 <hsn> mrf '--' '--'' '--'
17:04:05 <hsn> does work ?
17:04:21 <rust_collector> does
17:04:29 <hsn> https://www.asciiart.eu/animals/camels
17:04:30 <eevBot> [Title] - ASCII Art Camels - asciiart.eu
17:04:32 <hsn> good
17:04:35 * alfbaz_ is impressed by hsn's drawing talents
17:04:41 <rust_collector> heh
17:05:07 * hsn hides the link .. and emotes with yes im cool person look ..
17:05:12 <rust_collector> he is awesome at cut and paste, as you are, when you work with programming things
17:05:29 <alfbaz_> now can you do cock and balls :P
17:05:55 <hsn> rust_collector, is he talking nasty to me ?
17:06:00 <hsn> alfbaz_, im under 18
17:06:13 <rust_collector> chicken and footballs. it shoudl be ok
17:06:24 <hsn> i can chick
17:06:31 <alfbaz_> the things i speak of are atteched at birth... I think
17:06:37 <rust_collector> but be careful, as Halcyon banned me once, for posting a dickbutt, 3 times
17:06:56 <hsn> camel butt is sexier rust_collector
17:07:02 <hsn> he shouldnt ban me
17:07:09 <hsn> maybe i have 9 more times
17:07:10 <rust_collector> that was several pages, lol
17:07:50 <hsn> i remember .. that day i discovered that thing is actually a but not just some wierd face
17:08:28 <rust_collector> amazing
17:08:30 <rust_collector> horse
17:09:14 <rust_collector> ok, testing cake....
17:09:24 <rust_collector> could be worse
17:10:08 <alfbaz_> I'm new here, learning ppls limits and don't have a clue about etiquet
17:10:19 <alfbaz_> plus i'm a closet bogan
17:10:27 <rust_collector> sounds about right
17:11:14 <rust_collector> hsn is fragile, but he forgets soon, so it is ok.
17:12:24 <alfbaz_> Dr told me to limit my alchy too 1 to 2 a day. Haven't had one all week so does that mean I can have 7 to 14 tonight?
17:12:47 <alfbaz_> I like math
17:13:11 <rust_collector> hmm, you could run into a bladder issue, if you try to down 7 bottles
17:13:33 <alfbaz_> I do have a dick :P
17:13:49 <rust_collector> well, try and see?
17:14:04 <alfbaz_> did you mean try and pee?
17:14:18 <alfbaz_> I crack myself up sometimes
17:14:37 <alfbaz_> I'll settle down now
17:14:37 <rust_collector> don't think about it for too long, because you would need to have 28 bottles next week, and that would be a problem
17:15:06 <hsn> rust_collector, im fragile ?
17:15:08 <alfbaz_> 10's my limit. learnt the hard way over many years
17:15:14 <hsn> i guess i forgot allready
17:15:20 <alfbaz_> LOL
17:15:21 <rust_collector> there you go
17:15:34 <alfbaz_> Daurine
17:15:45 <alfbaz_> keep on swimming
17:15:52 <alfbaz_> love that movie
17:15:58 <hsn> alfbaz_, what happen after the 10 .. digit overflow ? :D
17:16:38 <rust_collector> alfbaz_ are you...oooh. are you one of those...mmhmmmm yes. do you drink cans of stuff, that is yellow on the top?
17:16:53 <alfbaz_> actually happens after 7 since I;m mainly octal
17:17:17 <alfbaz_> yellow on the bottom :P
17:17:35 <rust_collector> while ..yes, i see
17:17:39 <hsn> alfbaz_, no .. he ment on top before u started drinking ..
17:17:47 <hsn> we know it goes to bottom after u drunk
17:17:51 <alfbaz_> actually its not daurine it's Dory from finding nemo
17:18:13 <alfbaz_> and it's still yellow
17:18:20 <hsn> but top
17:18:42 <rust_collector> on top when you find then in the store
17:18:47 <alfbaz_> I'm lost and haven't even started dirnking
17:19:19 <alfbaz_> are we talking about beer? the cans I drink are green
17:19:24 <alfbaz_> VB
17:19:26 <hsn> best is japaneese man at weekend drinking ppl .. moving on the street midnight with the wierd walk .. with his suit case ..
17:19:47 <rust_collector> I can only drink one or maybe 2 beers in a day... I am just not a beer guy
17:19:56 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
17:20:00 <rust_collector> hoi hoi
17:20:04 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, morgen ..
17:20:11 <rust_collector> vb...
17:20:16 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, did u meet the unbeer guy ?
17:20:19 <alfbaz_> Victorian Bitter
17:20:27 <hsn> rust_collector, visual basic
17:20:43 <rust_collector> I have seen that somewhere.... probably on youtube, lol
17:21:24 <rust_collector> that too
17:21:39 <hsn> should i work today ?
17:22:14 <Ysjoelfir> so, who's up for some website testing? My friend (I still find it strange that in english there is no direct distinction between female and male friends like it is in german, where we basically have friend and £friendin"... ) has done some improvements after your last feedback and I will fill the site with content today :)
17:22:22 <Ysjoelfir> also, no, I haven't met electrohead today, why?
17:23:34 <rust_collector> who knows?
17:24:00 <rust_collector> probably because he is on a different continent?
17:24:42 <rust_collector> hsn why would you work? no one else here does that today?
17:25:32 <rust_collector> ok, link?
17:26:11 <rust_collector> do I have to dig out some obscure browser this time?
17:26:26 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, latest english uses +/- .. +friend is male .. -friend is female
17:26:43 <rust_collector> *freiend
17:26:49 <rust_collector> or so
17:27:25 <hsn> o-+ / o8=D
17:27:46 <rust_collector> you are sick, hsn
17:28:01 <hsn> because i draw dick bigger than head ?
17:28:14 <rust_collector> nah. just in general
17:28:24 <hsn> we are all sick
17:28:30 <rust_collector> so?
17:28:36 <hsn> im normal
17:28:45 <rust_collector> and?
17:28:52 <hsn> and its ok
17:28:56 <rust_collector> mmhmm
17:29:07 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector and everyone who is willing to help: http://pditest.pdi.engineering (no content yet, so might be worth it to wait until I am done with that :) ) And strange browsers are very welcome. It does a strange error (-> https://snipboard.io/Q0TD5P.jpg ) in my opera that I can't replicate anywhere else, even on the same opera version on an other system. so its nice to see if it fucks up somewhere else.
17:29:07 <eevBot> [Title] - PDI.Engineering
17:29:10 <rust_collector> what was that brewery in NZ
17:30:48 <hsn> [email protected] < personally i like kai@pdi
17:31:02 <Ysjoelfir> We added a burger menu thing, which we both hate, on the small mobile views. still a bit of wasted space there which we try to minimize.
17:31:31 <hsn> also the top left logo -> links to home is somehow the common thing nowadays ?
17:31:42 <Ysjoelfir> hsn: I thought about that as well. but keep in mind that said friend might join in some day, then it would be 2 people working there.
17:32:03 <Ysjoelfir> you mean clicking the image? yeah, indeed it is, good point. I change that.
17:32:37 <rust_collector> yes. and maybe add the language names where it says [img]
17:33:09 <Ysjoelfir> on your strange text based browser? :P yes, the alt texts arent there yet
17:33:26 <rust_collector> other than that, it looks good, and works good, in links2, and links2 -g and firefox
17:34:14 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/JDVigu.jpg
17:34:14 <rust_collector> the [img] only happens in the really text mode, with the -g, it does show the flag
17:34:58 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, thats said wasted space I was refering to at 9:31 german time :) we are working on that, but haven't figured out why it does that
17:35:25 <hsn> oh ok i thought u r talking about the padding on "left and right"
17:35:29 <rust_collector> but in watercatweaselice, it looks much better than the last time, less wasted space "around" the content
17:35:38 <hsn> eevBot, time Ysjoelfir
17:35:39 <eevBot> It is currently 2021/05/05 09:35:38 where Ysjoelfir resides.
17:35:49 <Ysjoelfir> that should already be smaller than it was last time? the padding I mean
17:35:54 <rust_collector> yes
17:36:04 <rust_collector> much better
17:36:29 <hsn> ok .. i as stated by mr rusty have 8 bit memory
17:37:07 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/dyJxemo.png
17:37:26 <Ysjoelfir> Do you think "Show in english" and the corresponding german phrase is good enough?
17:37:45 <Ysjoelfir> I have to admit that I love how it looks in that links thing.
17:37:54 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/VFdjwDm.png
17:38:15 <Ysjoelfir> very nice :D
17:38:20 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, how about this one .. https://snipboard.io/h8zZga.jpg
17:38:38 <rust_collector> sure, that would do, or english version, and deutsche blahblah, or... wahtever
17:39:03 <hsn> the container of website and dark blue padding of the full website .. i dont get why ... its part of the design i guess ?
17:39:17 <rust_collector> as long as I don't have to click and get the turkish and urdu version, that is ok
17:39:17 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, you mean the blue space around it? I wanted it to be "floating", so thats on purpose. do you think its to much in a big browser?
17:39:27 <Ysjoelfir> lol
17:39:50 <K> hello pretzels
17:39:51 <eevBot> Hello, K!
17:40:02 <Ysjoelfir> hello Kaeselaugenstange
17:40:03 <eevBot> Hello, Ysjoelfir!
17:40:05 <rust_collector> I do like a bit of the blue around it, as long as it is small-ish like now
17:40:33 <rust_collector> I am not sure, on a little phone screen, it might be better to skip that there
17:40:46 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, yes ... and unusual i guess ?
17:41:00 <Ysjoelfir> it should not show the blue border on small resolutions, rust_collector. So we agree there :D
17:41:07 <rust_collector> ok
17:41:39 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - yes, its not done usually like that anymore. but that was on purpose, I didn't want one of those full screen in your face endless scrolling pages everyone uses nowadays, I absolutely hate those. I need structure! XD
17:41:41 <rust_collector> well, tell us when you have done something to it... it look ok to me?
17:41:56 <Ysjoelfir> ok, I will do that :) Thanks
17:42:18 <K> (googles Kaeselaugenstange)
17:42:37 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/3a4NZd.jpg ---> https://snipboard.io/TBj2cE.jpg
17:42:39 <K> i'll allow it.
17:42:54 <hsn> i guess its not so great on big screen
17:42:56 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/bYsDzDz.png
17:43:02 <hsn> but on smaller its better
17:43:05 <rust_collector> lynx, for those people
17:43:28 <K> whatever you do, pls make sure increasing font size from browser works and does not break everything terribly
17:43:36 <rust_collector> de.gif is ok
17:43:38 <Ysjoelfir> K - I am pleased by your allowance :P
17:44:09 Quit: alfbaz_ ([email protected]) Quit: leaving
17:44:23 <Ysjoelfir> also K: It should work. you mean ctrl + mousewheel?
17:44:47 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, the padding problem because on smaller screen ur menu gets compacted under "=" button
17:45:32 <Ysjoelfir> it should disable the menu completely in smaller resolutions?
17:45:55 <Ysjoelfir> dosn't it do that?
17:46:06 <K> cmd + "+" on osx
17:46:13 <K> yea
17:46:20 <rust_collector> the flags are pretty messed up in dillo: https://imgur.com/r0E49Qh.png
17:46:44 <rust_collector> but, dillo users would be used to that
17:46:51 <Ysjoelfir> lol rusty. I should add a size atribute to them I guess :D
17:47:22 <Ysjoelfir> K - assuming that whatever browser OSX uses (safari?) uses the same scaling method as opera does, that should work.
17:47:54 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, its there somehow hidden .. https://snipboard.io/KyelFZ.jpg
17:47:55 <rust_collector> HTML warning: line 103, <br> lacks its closing '>'.
17:49:07 <Ysjoelfir> hsn ah, that might be the reason why it gets that big blank space over there. I report to my programming girl :)
17:49:52 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, I check that. line 103 is in the content of the lorem ipsum blank text, so that should solve itself anyway when I add content.
17:50:12 <hsn> lorem doesnt brrrs
17:51:16 <rust_collector> hsn have you tried to translate that?
17:51:36 <hsn> rust_collector, yes .. when i was kidder
17:51:50 <hsn> it didnt work for me i thought the translatter was shit
17:52:05 <hsn> we are talking about Lorem ipsum right ?
17:52:20 <rust_collector> It propaganda beneficial to football. Unarmed and work hard at this, developers use the variance, which was rescued force!!
17:52:22 <rust_collector> yes
17:53:13 <rust_collector> otoh, google believes it is german, so... I am sure it is accurate
17:53:34 <Ysjoelfir> lol
17:53:44 <Ysjoelfir> I always enjoy people translating a nonsense text^^
17:53:53 <hsn> chilli real estates .. no chocolate darling
17:54:36 <hsn> the arabic version of the lorem translated is much funnier than englush
17:54:57 <rust_collector> ok, but no one would know
17:56:02 <hsn> here is part of it: "chocolate doesnt exist, dear, and chocolate doesnt exist, and also chocolate doesnt exist, or somthing like that, or chocolate doesnt exist, also from lakes"
17:56:22 <hsn> in english its "There is no chocolate, my dear, but consequat convallis, neque justo important tortor, ut placerat nisi as well as of the lakes."
17:56:37 <hsn> i like arabic more .. it tells u chocolate doesnt exist more than once
17:56:50 <rust_collector> throw the key in the lake of chocolate, for you are the keeper of the chocolate key
17:57:32 <rust_collector> there is only one chocolate!
17:57:44 <hsn> no chocolate dear
17:57:53 <hsn> how many times ive to repeat
17:58:20 <Ysjoelfir> omfg xD
17:59:25 <rust_collector> what?
17:59:45 <rust_collector> I had to pee. I think my memory fell out
17:59:49 <Ysjoelfir> I love you guys so much xD Its a joy watching you being yourself :)
18:00:16 <rust_collector> I don't dislike you very much either
18:00:55 <rust_collector> oh, say hi to the web mistress. just because
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18:02:53 <rust_collector> gawd, the daves twats sounds almost like the arabic ipsum
18:03:42 <Ysjoelfir> She asked me to say Hi back to you :D
18:03:49 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, I agree with the davebot^^
18:07:22 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, give her cakes from rusty's wife bornday
18:07:55 <hsn> oh ,, where is manners .. please take cakes that i didnt prepare or paid for ..
18:08:03 <Ysjoelfir> I would do so, if I would have some :D
18:08:05 <Ysjoelfir> lol
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18:23:03 <rust_collector> hmm, I thought there was something weird about these measurements...
18:23:49 <rust_collector> turns out I made enough cake gloop for 12 cakes. so that should do
18:29:51 <Ysjoelfir> lol
18:31:16 <Ysjoelfir> I remember one time where Gworg was here. Mrs. Spouse and Mr. Gworg wanted to make waffles. I found a recipe from a guy who sold waffles in a mobile waffle sales vehicle. I had the impression that the amounts looked a bit large, but the two were like "Yay, more waffles!". So we made it and it turned out to be like 10 liters of waffle gloop. I still have a 2l bag of that stuff in the freezer.
18:31:36 <rust_collector> why would they put ingredients for 12 cakes in the recipe?
18:31:52 <Ysjoelfir> I have no idea.
18:31:54 <rust_collector> oooh, waffles are perfect for that
18:34:29 <rust_collector> there is a company next to work, who makes waffle gloop in 2,5,10, and 20 liter buckets. And they actually are pretty good.
18:35:04 <Lemon> hi peeps
18:35:13 <Ysjoelfir> uh, nice :D
18:35:19 <Ysjoelfir> hi peeper
18:35:57 <Lemon> I heard the word measurements ? combined with cake ? interesting :>
18:37:32 <rust_collector> hullo mr sir
18:39:32 <K> who is Mr. Gworg?
18:40:24 <rust_collector> it is the non-overweight guy
18:40:43 <Lemon> I woke up remembering something I wanted to do last year but never got around, which was order some deoxit/isopropyl alchohol, and everything to make my own low emf cables, + some for resistance measurements
18:40:55 <Lemon> the problem is the crimper needed for the job
18:41:06 <Lemon> I don't have one, and I don't know how much cost a good one
18:41:11 <Lemon> maybe rusty knows ?
18:41:20 <Lemon> I know its expensive
18:41:25 <Lemon> but how much ? no idea
18:41:38 <rust_collector> crimper for what?
18:42:12 <rust_collector> coax things, or... what are you talking about?
18:43:42 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/223447912986?_trkparms=aid%3D555023%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIMRVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20210125104017%26meid%3De483588e938b46aabf792387917f4377%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D24%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D303984304701%26itm%3D223447912986%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5hPointwiseWebNoToraCoCoViewsNoHighIdfOrRoundRobinBlenderWithPromotedViewItems%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982 those
18:43:42 <Lemon> example
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18:48:28 <Lemon> from what I learnt, I need some ptfe insulated cable, pure coper with silver/gold plating (its usually silver), and pure copper/gold plated spades, crimped to avoid adding another metal in the mix by soldering
18:48:34 <Lemon> and it should be quite nice
18:48:41 <Lemon> for resistance, I don't know if its suitable
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18:49:13 <rust_collector> that looks boringly like normal crimp terminals? knipex would be around 120 euros, I guess. randombrand probably....30?
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18:51:05 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir snip that off
18:51:48 <Lemon> yeah Isaw the knipex one at 120, I don't need a special adapter for those ?
18:51:54 <Lemon> I saw there is tons of different sizes
18:52:14 <Lemon> I can't afford a 120 euros crimping tool sadly, especially for only a few cables
18:52:27 <Lemon> for those, will a 30 bucks one work fine ?
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18:54:28 <Ysjoelfir> graaa. what did I miss?
18:54:35 * Ysjoelfir grumbles at his modem
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18:56:30 <K> mhh
18:56:35 <Halcyon> Evening all
18:56:44 <Ysjoelfir> mornings Halcyon
18:56:46 * Halcyon flicks Ampera's nipples
18:56:51 <Halcyon> How are you my German friend?
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18:57:40 <Ysjoelfir> I am annoyed by my modem, Halcyon. can I book you to configure it so that it stops dropping out 3 times a day? XD Or that it at least somehow logs somewhere?
18:58:09 <Halcyon> What kind of internet connection is it?
18:58:12 <Halcyon> ADSL? VDSL?
18:58:15 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir mr onion is wondering about crimping pliers for wires. I think that is most af what happened
18:58:18 <Ysjoelfir> VDSL2+
18:58:27 <Ysjoelfir> ah. ok
18:58:31 <Halcyon> Any other sockets in the house?
18:58:35 <Ysjoelfir> no
18:58:39 <Ysjoelfir> only that one
18:58:58 <Halcyon> How far are you from the pillar/node/box in the street that gives you line sync?
18:59:28 <Ysjoelfir> according to mr. old modem roughly 200 meters
18:59:45 <Halcyon> Yeh that's not bad. What kind of sync speeds are you getting and what make/model modem is it?
19:00:12 <Ysjoelfir> sync speed = general internet speed? or is sync speed somethign different?
19:00:22 <Ysjoelfir> and its a Draytek Vigor 165
19:00:24 <rust_collector> sounds differnt
19:00:46 <Halcyon> The sync speed should be reported by your modem, it's your maximum line speed at any given time (it can flucuate depending on line conditions, noise etc...)
19:00:56 <Halcyon> If you go into your modem GUI, there should be stats for it somewhere
19:01:01 <Halcyon> Along with your SNR
19:02:30 <Halcyon> In my experience with Draytek modems... they are "OK", but depending on what kind of equipment your provider uses, I've found better performance and reliablity using modems with Broadcom chipsets (as opposed to the Lantiq chipsets Draytek uses).
19:03:15 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to use a different one, as I think this one is shitty as fuck :D but which VDSL2+ compatible one is available in germany that doesn't cost an arm or a leg?
19:03:39 <Halcyon> I use a Billion modem, not sure of the model but I think it was about $120
19:04:39 <Halcyon> I *think* it's this one I have: https://www.billion.com/product/communication/xDSL-Series/bipac-8900x-r3
19:04:39 <Ysjoelfir> fascinating. I want to enter the DSL status page of that modem, it just times out
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19:05:04 <Halcyon> How old is the modem? Have you checked that it's just not full of dust and overheating?
19:05:18 <Ysjoelfir> It did that from pretty much when I got it
19:05:31 <Halcyon> Right. Maybe it's just shit. Have you checked for firmware updates?
19:05:37 <Ysjoelfir> yep, none
19:05:46 <Halcyon> Sounds like you just need a new modem :P
19:05:54 <Ysjoelfir> ah. if I take a look at the general online status page it shows me this:
19:06:20 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/I6RrOs.jpg
19:06:43 <Halcyon> Are you paying for a 50/20 connection?
19:06:44 <Lemon> rust_collector https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=telT1YGK8Yw will that fit for the spades I want to use ?
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19:06:49 <Ysjoelfir> 50/200
19:06:57 <Halcyon> Oh sorry yes
19:07:03 <K> 6db snr dos not sound too great?
19:07:03 <Ysjoelfir> erm
19:07:05 <Ysjoelfir> to be precise
19:07:11 <Ysjoelfir> 250/40 up/down
19:07:31 <rust_collector> Lemon if they are in the correct size for your thingies, that is the style you want
19:07:32 <Ysjoelfir> nah
19:07:38 <Halcyon> Stats look fine to me. The SNR is a little on the low side, but I've seen worse.
19:07:40 <Ysjoelfir> other way around. 250 down, 40 up. meh
19:07:50 <Ysjoelfir> so. its just a shitty modem? :D
19:07:51 <Lemon> does it look quality to you ?
19:07:55 <Lemon> I found the same for 25
19:08:04 <Halcyon> If I had to guess. Yep, probably just a crappy modem.
19:08:23 <rust_collector> eeeffff. they are pliers. they pli, I guess
19:08:36 <Halcyon> Again, I've had great luck with Broadcom-based modems, but I don't know what Germany uses in terms of equipment in the street. So your mileage may vary.
19:08:40 <rust_collector> they are adjustable, so...
19:09:03 <rust_collector> ok, what is this vdsl2+ thing?
19:09:25 <Halcyon> rust_collector, high speed internet over twisted pair
19:09:43 <Halcyon> Kind of like a newer ADSL/VDSL
19:10:16 <rust_collector> oh gawd...
19:10:31 <rust_collector> uhm, let me look...
19:10:45 <rust_collector> Lemon those will work.
19:11:10 <Lemon> ok thanks :> I will take a look around to see if I can't find a knipex, but this one looks fairly nice
19:11:16 <Lemon> I found the knipex one at 50
19:11:26 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, if your SNR was garbage AND your sync speed was low, then I would suggest line fault.
19:11:27 <Lemon> but well, even if its cheap, the 25 euros one might be more than enough for me
19:11:49 <rust_collector> yea. get the knipex if you want to crimp things all day
19:12:15 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon I don't think its the lines problem. it worked with the old fritzbox 1.5 years ago, but started acting up when I replaced said box because it was fuckered.
19:12:30 <Halcyon> No, I don't think so either. As I said, your stats look fine to me
19:12:39 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir do you need any specific isp related things in your device, or can you use any pingpong2+ modem?
19:13:54 <Ysjoelfir> I can use whatever I want. but VDSL2 modems are pretty rare here
19:14:37 <steve30> hi
19:14:57 <Lemon> a nice pair of hmmm "pince a denuder" I forgot the english name, to remove insulation of the tip of a wire, woud be nice too
19:15:12 <Lemon> im always using a lighter or my teeth, which isnt ideal
19:17:32 <Halcyon> Theoretically any VDSL2+ modem will work, but as with everything quality and performance can differ depending on make/model/design etc...
19:19:26 <K> in other news - i am half chipped
19:19:50 <Ysjoelfir> cool. I am priority group 3, haven't even got an appointment yet
19:20:37 <Lemon> rust_collector ok I want this https://www.amazon.fr/PreciStrip16-195-12-52-SB/dp/B086BXBS73/ref=sr_1_9?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=knipex+pince+a+denuder&qid=1620206252&sr=8-9
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19:20:40 <Halcyon> K, how's the 5G reception? :P
19:20:53 <Halcyon> I had my millimeter wave enabled last month
19:20:55 <K> we had the online registration thing, and we registered like the next day it opened
19:21:04 <K> that was in end of feb iirc
19:21:45 <K> last week they started accepting from that list, as far as i can understand
19:22:01 <K> do not have much use of 5g tbh
19:22:17 <Lemon> or maybe this one, as I mostly need small wires https://www.amazon.fr/Knipex-1262180-D%C3%A9nudeur-Grande-Bretagne/dp/B000C74WBO/ref=sr_1_7?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=knipex+pince+a+denuder&qid=1620206252&sr=8-7
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19:23:27 <K> my nokia 6300 does not do that
19:27:08 <rust_collector> I am guessing I will get my setup after summer some time, maybe
19:29:24 <rust_collector> Lemon imo, that sort of thing is overrated, but ok, just buy some, if you want them
19:29:41 * steve30 sniggers at the word 'denuder'
19:29:55 <Lemon> well I saw various models that are cheaper but for once, comments are really bad on it
19:30:02 <Lemon> maybe people dont know how to properly use it, I dont know
19:30:08 <Lemon> knipex is quite good from the few tools I have
19:30:39 <K> i have sometging like that but made by pressmaster
19:30:43 <K> it is very handy
19:30:59 <rust_collector> they are sort of weird things, I am almost sure it is not a quality issue, but that design seems to be pretty meh some times?
19:31:17 <K> did swap regular blades cartridge for one made for ptfe wires
19:31:30 <Lemon> thats weird yeah
19:31:34 <K> qc is very ok
19:31:39 <Lemon> but theres many settings on the knippex
19:31:41 <K> it has been used quite a lot
19:31:44 <Lemon> to adjust to the type of wire
19:31:49 <Lemon> so maybe people dont know how to adjust it
19:31:58 <rust_collector> that would not help, no
19:32:56 <Lemon> if I spend money on one I want it to work properly
19:33:07 <Lemon> a crimping tool I cant spend a lot, as I wont use it a ton
19:33:17 <Lemon> but that (what is the name in english ?) I do need it all the time
19:33:34 <K> http://www.pressmaster.se/product/embla_sbc
19:33:36 <eevBot> [Title] - Pressmaster product - EMBLA SBC
19:33:37 <rust_collector> wire strippers
19:33:50 <rust_collector> cable nudifyers
19:34:06 <Lemon> ha yes
19:34:31 <Lemon> the pressmaster looks nice yeah but I need it to go to tiny wires too
19:34:39 <Lemon> 28 awg or whatever they call it
19:34:46 <Lemon> or at least 24
19:34:51 <rust_collector> don't try to get one tool that does everything
19:34:53 <K> it does all of that
19:34:59 <K> Embla SBC is a self adjusting stripping and cutting tool, 0.02-10 mm²/AWG 34-8, Straight blade.
19:35:15 <K> it is not cheap though
19:35:29 <rust_collector> well, if it does, then ok. but if it does not, get a big and a small one
19:36:15 <K> for bigger wires you just need different blades
19:37:29 <Lemon> how much is it ?
19:37:37 <Lemon> the knipex is 130 euros, thats a lot
19:37:44 <Lemon> but I like that its adjustable
19:39:24 <Lemon> the precistrip 16 looks perfect
19:39:28 <Lemon> but damn 130 is a lot
19:39:34 <Lemon> I mean I will use it all the time for years
19:40:04 <K> farnell says it is 50 something eur
19:40:21 <K> https://lv.farnell.com/pressmaster/4320-0612/stripping-tool-0-02mm2-to-10mm2/dp/4228870
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19:44:09 <rust_collector> these look fun, and you only need 3 sizes
19:44:14 <Lemon> hard to find in europe it seems
19:44:15 <rust_collector> https://no.farnell.com/knipex/12-74-180-sb/cable-stripper-4-4mm2-to-7-5mm2/dp/2859386
19:46:11 <rust_collector> butt! the pressmaster ones... they have 70 in store here... they have to be able to find one in france too
19:46:23 <K> https://fr.farnell.com/pressmaster/4320-0612/outil-a-denuder-0-02mm2-a-10mm2/dp/4228870
19:46:24 <K> denuder!
19:51:02 <Lemon> well in fact its like mouser/digikey.fr, just the website is french :>
19:51:13 <Lemon> I got fucking a few times, paying customs
19:51:17 <Lemon> and lots of shipping too
19:52:52 <Lemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo8Uyzt1SLU
19:52:58 <Lemon> this one looks nice too, and half the price
19:57:13 <K> farnell is eu based, so no customs
19:57:25 <rust_collector> it only has to work nice...
20:01:58 <Lemon> yeah I think the 60 euros one is what I need, it goes down to 32 awg, and you can adjust the lengh/depth of the cut
20:02:15 <Lemon> which is perfect, people complaining that sometimes its slips, with that you can solve the problem
20:04:03 <K> but! check ptfe blades
20:05:42 <Lemon> ptfe blades ?
20:06:28 <rust_collector> PTFE BLADES!!
20:06:29 * Halcyon nibbles on kim chi and pickled jalapenos
20:06:36 <rust_collector> pervert
20:06:53 <rust_collector> oh
20:07:01 <Halcyon> :P
20:07:11 <Lemon> I think the knipex one can do it
20:18:19 <Lemon> I got like, 3 or 4 of those cheapass pcb stands
20:18:24 <Lemon> I thought about this one, https://www.amazon.fr/Hi-Spec-daspiration-Electronique-Fabrication-Travaillent/dp/B08F7JPXSR/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=mini+etau+electronique&qid=1620209841&s=hi&sr=1-3
20:18:50 <Lemon> looks a bit more stable than the tube/plier style
20:23:02 <rust_collector> these are very stable, and nice, and square, and anything you could want, except meant to hold pcbs: https://www.ebay.com/itm/194071157303?hash=item2d2f8ada37:g:26YAAOSw3wdgiMvj
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20:31:14 <steve30> I think my current Etymotic earphones are knackered
20:31:28 * Halcyon hugs steve30
20:32:24 <steve30> I just dug out my tatty old ones though and they seem to work
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20:32:56 <alfbaz> hi all
20:33:03 <Halcyon> Hey alfwa
20:33:06 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
20:33:13 <Halcyon> YAY! Ampera :D
20:33:24 <Halcyon> Did my nipple tweaks wake you?
20:33:25 <rust_collector> well, only one...
20:33:25 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
20:33:29 <Ampera> no
20:33:38 <Halcyon> I'll have to try harder next time
20:33:44 <Ampera> no
20:33:46 <Halcyon> I'm OK, tired, the usual
20:33:52 <Ampera> no
20:34:15 <Halcyon> I've also been told I need to book more leave before September because I'm exceeding my banked allowance again
20:34:19 <Halcyon> Fuck knows when I'll find time
20:35:34 <Ampera> find more time?
20:35:41 <Ampera> surely they've already given you time
20:35:41 <Halcyon> Work is busy
20:36:15 <Ampera> We all just up and leave when we want to at work
20:36:15 <Halcyon> My calendar is almost all booked out until December
20:36:23 <Halcyon> Give or take two weeks or so
20:36:35 <rust_collector> that is how work is, I think
20:36:55 <alfbaz> Wish I had a job I like enough not to stay away from
20:37:40 <rust_collector> most years, they wait until late november, and tell me I have 6 weeks vacation to use in that year... but I can not take it in december...
20:38:20 <Halcyon> In my role, I'm forced to take public holidays off, in addition to the mandatory 2 consecutive weeks
20:38:43 <Halcyon> Although because I accure 6 weeks per year just in recreational leave, I have to take more
20:38:47 <Ampera> lol mandatory time off
20:38:50 <Halcyon> *accrue
20:39:12 <Halcyon> Yeh we get in trouble if we don't take a solid 2 weeks off every calendar year
20:39:13 <Ampera> They don't make first world problems as good as that
20:39:16 <Halcyon> It's against policy
20:41:12 <alfbaz> If we want to have a public holiday off, we have to book it 4 weeks prior :0
20:41:18 <steve30> i suggest taking your mandatory time off and saying 'f***work'
20:41:29 <Ampera> ^
20:41:34 <Ampera> there's no science to not working
20:41:39 <steve30> Maybe go on holiday to the beech and chat up some cute guys :p
20:41:50 <Halcyon> steve30, the problem is, if I do that, shit doesn't happen when I'm there, because no one in my team wants to do my job
20:41:59 <Halcyon> *not there
20:42:17 <Ampera> Unless that's gonna get you demoted or fired, who cares
20:42:20 <Halcyon> Well there is one guy, but he isn't suitable
20:42:26 <Halcyon> I can't trust him to use the printer
20:42:31 <rust_collector> so?
20:42:42 <Halcyon> I have to fix everything up when I get back, which means more work
20:43:05 <rust_collector> that is the thing with work
20:43:06 <Ampera> so?
20:43:21 <Halcyon> Well, at the moment, I'm relieving in that position which I intend to apply for full-time.
20:43:30 <Halcyon> Regardless if I'm there or not, it falls back on me
20:43:42 <Halcyon> Which is fine if I had that role substantively.
20:43:44 <rust_collector> yep, good plan, lol
20:44:12 <rust_collector> how long have you had "that" job?
20:44:14 <Halcyon> If it all went to shit under my watch, they would knock me back to Senior Constable
20:44:18 <Halcyon> Which means less money
20:44:36 <Halcyon> About 3 months or so, it's getting advertised soon.
20:45:01 <rust_collector> no, I mean the old one, (I think)
20:45:14 <Halcyon> Oh, about 4 years
20:45:17 <steve30> Just think of all the hot beech dudes you're missing out on by working :p
20:45:25 <rust_collector> yeah, bad idea
20:45:29 <Halcyon> 13 years service in total at various ranks
20:46:45 <rust_collector> 13, so... hmm. 9 years left...
20:46:54 <Halcyon> Until... ?
20:46:57 <Halcyon> I'm an old fart?
20:47:25 <Ampera> you're already there
20:47:29 <Ampera> 9 years left to live
20:47:32 <Halcyon> Shutuppppppp
20:47:32 <rust_collector> until you change, and get into... uhm, some random completely different thing
20:47:43 <Halcyon> Oh, I have a plan for that already rust_collector
20:47:52 <rust_collector> yes, but it takes time
20:47:58 <Halcyon> I know
20:48:02 <Halcyon> I started 2 years ago
20:48:44 <Halcyon> I'm in my mid-30's now. I need to think about this shit
20:48:51 <rust_collector> yeah
20:49:20 <steve30> I'm 30 now and haven't had a paid job since I was 20.
20:49:31 <rust_collector> but on the other side, you have been there long enough, that some other guy will be fired before you
20:49:36 <Halcyon> I've been working since a I was 14
20:49:41 <Halcyon> I think I deserve to be tired
20:49:49 <rust_collector> heh
20:50:45 <rust_collector> steve30 you did get...was it 80 or 100, for that video...
20:51:15 <rust_collector> you should have done that next year...
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20:51:35 <steve30> Well, I do little odd jobs like that, but I don't make a living from odd jobs
20:52:05 <rust_collector> good, because then you can get away without paying taxes on them. keep it secret
20:52:26 <Halcyon> Well I dare say that he would be under the threshold for paying tax
20:52:41 <Halcyon> Here I think it's the first $18.5k you earn is not taxed
20:53:03 <Halcyon> Then after that, it's a sliding scale
20:53:36 <rust_collector> I am not sure about exactly how much, but I think it is something similar here
20:54:28 <Halcyon> Yeh it would be
20:56:13 <steve30> similar type thing here
20:57:26 * steve30 ought to make some paneer pakoras for lunch
21:00:05 <rust_collector> that sounds like a knitted sweater or something
21:00:07 <Halcyon> Yummy
21:01:10 <steve30> i just dropped a tiny scre
21:01:11 <steve30> w
21:01:19 <Halcyon> You're fucked now
21:01:36 <rust_collector> meh, they are next to all the other ones
21:01:43 <Ampera> I got a new phone case
21:01:46 <Ampera> it is nice and thin
21:01:56 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir what did web girl do now?
21:02:10 <Halcyon> We made a screw picker-upper at work. It was one half of the magnet from inside a dead hard drive, attached to a thick 30cm long cable tie
21:02:12 <Halcyon> It worked well
21:02:51 <steve30> I use a hard drive magnet for things like that
21:03:13 <Ampera> I may get a nice day off from work tomorrow for being incapacitated
21:03:23 <rust_collector> I have an old speaker magnet on a piece of string, that I drag around, so I don't have to pulle things out of my tires all the time
21:03:30 * steve30 was just cleaning the dust out of his Minidisc recorder
21:04:19 <Halcyon> What's wrong Ampera?
21:04:30 <Ampera> nothing?
21:05:20 <Halcyon> Why are you incapacitated then?
21:06:17 <Ampera> I'm gonna get shot today
21:06:31 <Halcyon> Well, you do live in 'merica
21:06:35 <K> haha
21:06:42 <Halcyon> So just another day out to the shops then?
21:06:53 <Ampera> I'm going to Albany to do it too, which is particularly disparate
21:07:11 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir the "flag" things work now
21:07:20 <Halcyon> I probably should get an early night
21:07:40 <Ysjoelfir> I just uploaded a version with the size tag like.... 5 minutes ago, rusty xD
21:09:35 <rust_collector> HTML warning: line 49, Unexpected closing tag: </a> -- expected </div>.
21:09:36 <rust_collector> HTML warning: line 118, Unexpected closing tag: </div> -- expected </a>.
21:09:36 <rust_collector> HTML warning: line 119, Unexpected closing tag: </div> -- expected </a>.
21:09:36 <rust_collector> HTML warning: line 122, Unexpected closing tag: </body> -- expected </a>.
21:09:36 <rust_collector> HTML warning: line 123, Unexpected closing tag: </html> -- expected </a>.
21:10:07 * Ampera sneezes aggressively at rust_collector
21:10:08 <rust_collector> the flags still look like garbage in dillo, but... that is probably how it is
21:10:28 <Ampera> haha dildo
21:11:00 <rust_collector> whatever works... you know
21:12:18 <Ysjoelfir> interesting. is it not allowed to have a link in a div? the line it complains about, and makes all the following errors out of, is
21:12:19 <Ysjoelfir> <div class="w-100" id="ltop">
21:12:19 <Ysjoelfir> <a href="index.html"><img src="img/logo.png"id="logo" /></a>
21:12:19 <Ysjoelfir> </div>
21:12:55 <rust_collector> I have no idea. it does seem to work, if it works like it is supposed to???
21:13:05 <Ysjoelfir> it looks like it is, yes.
21:19:09 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/BAHYfdN.png https://imgur.com/GlQWc0S.png I like hot one language has an extra line up on the top there somewhere
21:19:19 <rust_collector> how, not hot
21:20:38 <Ysjoelfir> strange :D there is no additional br around that area
21:22:20 <rust_collector> not that it matters, but it just looked like something should be somewhere
21:22:52 <Ysjoelfir> indeed. I just had to check that :D but.. its nothing there^^
21:27:24 Quit: alfbaz ([email protected]) Quit: leaving
21:27:27 <electrohead> o/
21:27:29 <electrohead> "also, no, I haven't met electrohead today, why?"
21:27:33 <electrohead> huh? lol
21:27:49 <rust_collector> ok, is that the new way to say hello here?
21:28:13 <Ysjoelfir> hsn (I think?) asked me if I met the unbeered guy earyer :D
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21:31:00 <Reg7805> hi guys
21:31:06 <electrohead> ahh, lol
21:31:12 <rust_collector> hey again
21:31:12 * electrohead tiredly waves at Reg7805
21:31:49 * Ampera yawn-sneezes
21:31:56 <Reg7805> just wakeup, beign working on sound problem last night
21:32:14 <Ampera> better than working on unsound problems
21:32:29 <Reg7805> still not working yet properly
21:34:22 <Reg7805> i have put in the missing firmware and stuff, so i have sound now, but put the pc to sleep does not work anymore.
21:35:40 <Reg7805> how are you guys doing?
21:36:01 <Ampera> waiting for my inevitable demise with uneasy excitement
21:36:22 <Ampera> that's what I'm doing though, I'm doing alright
21:36:58 <Reg7805> good :)
21:49:43 <Ampera> fuck I love caffeine
21:50:02 <Ampera> 30 minutes to go from barely even sentient to a functioning human being
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21:52:36 Mode: (by ChanOP) +v eevBot
21:52:54 <electrohead> eevBot: give coffee to Ampera
21:52:54 * eevBot slides a cup of joe to Ampera
21:53:32 <Ampera> I actually can't drink coffee
21:53:48 <rust_collector> eat it?
21:54:00 <Ampera> not without being real nauseously sick later that night
21:54:11 <Ampera> I actually have a big 500 count jar of caffeine pills I use instead
21:54:19 Nick: m0drobert is now known as modrobert
21:59:47 <K> haha, functioning he says
22:00:07 <Ampera> K, it's all relative
22:16:08 <rust_collector> Lemon ......?
22:26:08 <steve30> pakoras are made an eaten :p
22:26:13 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/n579yb/perfectly_jump/
22:26:15 <eevBot> [Title] - Perfectly jump : Unexpected
22:29:43 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, and electrohead .. beer with me
22:29:56 <Ysjoelfir> I beer with you
22:30:32 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, i actually was talking about .. hmm .. who was it .. they guy who wants to drink 10 of alcohol stuff
22:30:35 <hsn> alfbaz
22:31:08 <hsn> <rust_collector> I can only drink one or maybe 2 beers in a day... I am just not a beer guy
22:31:10 <electrohead> it's 0831 in the morning, here
22:31:12 <hsn> unbeer ^
22:31:18 <electrohead> plus I have work then, lol
22:31:20 <Ysjoelfir> ah
22:31:23 <hsn> eevBot, time electrohead
22:31:24 <eevBot> It is currently 2021/05/05 22:31:24 where electrohead resides.
22:31:32 <hsn> i can see u lieing to us again
22:31:34 <Ampera> eevbot time Ampera
22:31:35 <eevBot> It is currently 2021/05/05 08:31:35 where Ampera resides.
22:31:43 <Ampera> yeah that's about right
22:31:52 <hsn> armpera
22:32:16 <hsn> im bored i should leave right ?
22:32:19 <hsn> and go home
22:32:26 <electrohead> lol, whoops, I did change mine for the heck of it
22:32:27 <rust_collector> yes, stay
22:32:33 <electrohead> eevBot: timeset America/New_York
22:32:34 <eevBot> electrohead: time zone updated!
22:32:37 <electrohead> there :P
22:32:38 <hsn> too much work is unhealthy
22:32:48 <Ampera> being unhealthy is healthy
22:33:03 <hsn> Ampera, i was trying to explain this to rust_collector
22:33:07 <hsn> earlier today
22:33:10 <rust_collector> ethical is too much work
22:33:11 <Ampera> don't bother
22:33:15 <hsn> i knew u will understand me ..
22:33:16 <Ampera> he doesn't actually know how to read
22:33:42 <Ampera> he's just trying random words and gets lucky most of the time
22:34:18 <Ampera> a bizarre method, but surprisingly more eloquent than the vast majority of the cretinous creatures which inhabit the shit rows of the internet
22:34:23 <hsn> he is ... Lorem ipsum
22:35:54 <rust_collector> I dictionary jesus subngulater master balls must snek
22:36:45 <Ampera> I agree, and foremore, penis
22:37:18 <rust_collector> if so must many
22:38:51 <Ampera> mmm, many penis
22:38:59 <Ampera> you speak them words of wisedom
22:39:24 <Ampera> correcter words have not ever been speaked
22:39:43 <hsn> Fck the heat
22:40:00 <hsn> Black car isnt nice in the sun
22:40:44 <hsn> Seat burns the ass. Wheel steering burns the hand
22:40:51 <Ampera> you know you live in a hot place when you can tell the difference between a black and not black car in the sun
22:41:02 <Ampera> to us, a car in the sun is an oven no matter what you do
22:41:14 * Ampera hands hsn some driving gloves
22:42:03 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/P4WfeVW7iY6DijNW8
22:42:13 <Ampera> This whole warm weather thing is considering if it wants to come here at all. It's 53F (and a nice 96% relative humidity), and overcast
22:42:13 <hsn> According to mr sensor
22:42:26 <hsn> eevBot: convert 53f to c
22:42:27 <Ampera> eevblog convert 40.5C to F
22:42:36 <Ampera> eevbot convert 40.5C to F
22:43:04 <hsn> eevBot: convert 40.5c to f
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22:43:15 <Ampera> eevblog convert 40.5C to F
22:43:15 <EEVBlog> The result is: 104.9 f
22:43:21 <Ampera> eevblog convert 53f to c
22:43:21 <EEVBlog> The result is: 11.667 c
22:43:23 <hsn> EEVBlog: i mess u
22:43:24 <Ampera> eevblog kill yourself
22:43:24 <EEVBlog> Goodbye cruel world!
22:43:24 Quit: EEVBlog ([email protected]) Connection closed
22:43:49 * steve30 pets EEVBlog
22:43:55 <hsn> Ampera: let me romance with the bot
22:44:18 <Ampera> electrohead, you need to put your bot up on github so I can fix it up
22:44:31 <Ampera> if there is no other choice, I guess I'll do it in python
22:44:46 <Reg7805> https://streamable.com/w3jnw3 > guys this is the sound problem im having after sleep mode, any ideas?
22:44:46 <eevBot> [Title] - VID_20210504_234211
22:45:23 <Ampera> Reg7805, what sound device do you have
22:46:10 <Reg7805> Sound Blaster Recon3Di
22:46:29 <Reg7805> i have alrady put in the missing firmware and stuff
22:46:45 <rust_collector> Ampera rewrite it in c or something
22:47:05 <Reg7805> when i reboot the sound works, but when put it to sleep and open agian this happens
22:47:28 <Ampera> rust_collector, that's what I wanted to do, but that got veto'd
22:47:41 <Ampera> bla bla bla memory safety bla bla :P
22:47:50 <Reg7805> I have found the c file, but i think it might need to recompiled, i do not how to do that
22:48:23 <Reg7805> https://www.reddit.com/r/SoundBlasterOfficial/comments/9mm5ad/sound_blaster_r3dr3dizzxrae5_linux_driver/
22:48:27 <eevBot> [Title] - Sound Blaster R3D/R3Di/Z/ZxR/AE-5 Linux Driver : SoundBlasterOfficial
22:49:10 <Ampera> modern sound blasters always amuse me
22:50:08 <Ampera> Yeah, it's a niche card, with an out of tree community driver
22:50:27 <Ampera> your best bet is to get support with the developer, and I can't say that ever ends well
22:52:52 <Reg7805> well i have tried alot of things, im not have been succeful yet, so yes i might need to support from developer
22:56:12 <Reg7805> if electrohead comes back, i will ask him
22:56:34 <electrohead> I'm here
22:56:40 <Ampera> lol
22:56:45 <electrohead> Ampera: fix it up how?
22:56:48 <Ampera> /the/ developer, not /a/ developer
22:56:48 <electrohead> lol
22:56:58 <electrohead> :p
22:57:00 <Ampera> eevbot convert 12ft to in
22:57:03 <Ampera> is how
22:57:14 <electrohead> I already see your issue
22:57:19 <electrohead> eevBot: convert 12 ft to in
22:57:20 <eevBot> electrohead: The result is 144.0 in
22:57:35 <electrohead> the space is the delimiter between the fields
22:57:37 <Ampera> and I thought my parsing was bad :P
22:57:43 <Ampera> iirc it was optional on my bot
22:57:44 <electrohead> :P
22:57:59 <electrohead> I found it was better to separate the fields
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22:58:17 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 12ft to in
22:58:18 <EEVBlog> The result is: 144 in
22:58:21 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 12 ft to in
22:58:21 <EEVBlog> The result is: 144 in
22:58:25 <Ampera> yeah mine works both ways
22:58:30 Quit: EEVBlog ([email protected]) Connection closed
22:58:49 <electrohead> ahh fair enough
22:58:51 <Ampera> but I meant in general, if we want to work off your codebase
22:59:14 <Reg7805> well i keep working on the problem
22:59:19 <Ampera> I'm also down for something completely different, even if it doesn't end up going on EEVBlog infrastructure
23:05:47 <electrohead> Reg7805: if you need help using that patch on that reddit page, you'll have to replace the old file with that newer patched file, in the source code
23:06:02 <electrohead> then manually ./configure, make, make install, if going the true manual route
23:06:27 <electrohead> Ampera: I'll send you the link to the current source, and you can mess with it if you want?
23:06:55 <Ampera> We can talk about it another time, but if it's gonna turn into a community effort, it has to be source controlled
23:07:01 <electrohead> yeah for sure
23:07:10 <electrohead> that's why I haven't uploaded to github yet :p
23:07:27 <Ampera> huh?
23:07:40 <electrohead> I wasn't sure if anyone else wanted to contribute to it or not
23:07:54 <electrohead> but, if people will, then yeah, I can definitely upload to github
23:07:57 <Ampera> My main gripe is the language, but if there are no other options I'll deal with it
23:08:19 <Ampera> also yunozstd
23:10:13 <Reg7805> https://github.com/Conmanx360/ca0132-tools > i have found this link whre this guy working on it
23:10:15 <eevBot> [Title] - GitHub - Conmanx360/ca0132-tools: Tools for the ca0132 HDA codec. Includes an assembler/disassembler for the integrated custom DSP.
23:11:23 <Reg7805> this is getting complicated
23:11:42 <Ampera> Linux drivers are effortless right up until they're not
23:13:10 <Reg7805> i will try get in contact with developer, send him evertyhing that i know
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23:24:37 <hsn> https://signal.org/blog/the-instagram-ads-you-will-never-see/
23:24:38 <eevBot> [Title] - Signal >> Blog >> The Instagram ads Facebook won't show you
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23:36:43 <Ampera> A single teacher from Russia who believes in astrology, enjoys sketch comedy, and is into drag
23:36:54 <electrohead> Halcyon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5gNrshAaM
23:36:55 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Cockatiel Singing Tequila
23:36:56 <Ampera> the cliches in this universe are starting to get old