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01:36 <Lemon> well, gtx 1080 sold :>
02:43 <Ysjoelfir> its so nice of you to sell your stuff to support me :)
03:51 <K> mhh
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15:02 <rust_collector> boom boom boom
15:10 <electrohead> moob moob moob
15:27 <coppice> steve30: was Uma Thurman there?
15:30 <rust_collector> ok, but 3?
16:55 <steve30> nope
17:24 <steve30> Its also on youtube if you want to 'like' it
20:32 <K> 3 mooblets
24:01 <Lemon> I sold it to a guy not too far from me, via paypal ! im going to send it tommorow
24:10 <Lemon> the guy is building a mining rig (strange heh)
24:15 <Lemon> quite a nice peep
24:26 <rust_collector> peep peep
26:41 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPZX7EZIFD0 piep piep piep
26:42 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Guildo Horn - Guildo hat euch lieb [Eurovision 1998 - Germany]
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05:04 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/274785415804?hash=item3ffa7cb27c:g:WLsAAOSwr5tgkbwk
05:06 <eevBot> [Title] - Agilent 6629 a système DC Power Supply | eBay
05:07 <Lemon> ive seen this
05:18 <Lemon> I always wanted one of those supplies, I read tons of good things on them
05:27 <Lemon> but most of the time, shipping is killing the deal
05:36 <Lemon> this one tho comes from germany so not too much, 30 euros or so
12:27 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/xkt2klz.jpg
14:18 <K> on a brighter note, public tv started running comisar rex again, from 1st season
14:19 <K> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=853GbAuFX-k
14:19 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Kommissar Rex - All Intros (Season 1-10)
14:22 <K> is nice.
23:11 <Lemon> hmmm manual says you can put all 4 outputs in series
23:15 <Lemon> that would be a dream
23:22 <Lemon> 50 volts per output, up to 200
23:31 <Lemon> that would definitively cover my needs for a long long time
28:19 <rust_collector> does it max out at 200?
30:08 <Lemon> well probably a bit over it, I read that overvoltage trip at 64 volt (per output)
30:58 <electrohead> it should be over 9000
31:04 * T3sl4 connects rust_collector's nipples in series
31:07 <Ysjoelfir> at least!
31:27 * Ysjoelfir measures the voltage potential between those
31:29 <T3sl4> also, mornin
31:40 <Ysjoelfir> hi sparky
32:00 <rust_collector> hey
32:02 <rust_collector> oh
32:17 <electrohead> moaning.
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36:45 <Lemon> . As long as all OV terminals are wired together, the outputs will be crowbarred simultaneously .
36:54 <Lemon> what does it means, "crowbarred" ?
37:11 <T3sl4> it means putting a crowbar across the output
39:34 <T3sl4> there's a tiny little freeman inside there with a tiny little crowbar, ready to drop it across the terminals on the signal
39:40 <electrohead> lol
39:55 <Lemon> thats weird, I expected it :>
40:00 <electrohead> Lemon: meaning a crowbar circuit
40:17 <Lemon> yeah and the question is, roughly, what is it ? :>
41:00 <electrohead> a crowbar circuit will essentially "throw a crowbar between + and -, so that for example, say a regulator shorts out, it's not sending a higher voltage on your lower voltage rails
41:04 <rust_collector> it shorts the terminals together, does it matter what it is that does that?
41:17 <electrohead> thus ruining the rest of your PCB/components
41:28 <T3sl4> typically an SCR
41:46 <electrohead> see here for a slight example and explanation - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowbar_(circuit)
41:46 <eevBot> [Title] - Crowbar (circuit) - Wikipedia
42:20 <Lemon> ok thanks ! perfect
42:20 <electrohead> or a triac for AC circuits
42:30 <Lemon> I was reading about an hp 6629a
42:40 <Lemon> and it seems its possible to put all 4 outputs in series
42:45 <Lemon> which would be wonderful
42:55 <Lemon> ouputs are 50v 1a each
42:59 <Lemon> so 200v 1a, man
43:02 <electrohead> actually, curiousmarc on youtube is currently repairing a vintage computer that got pretty much destroyed, because of a lack of a proper crowbar circuit
43:04 <Lemon> thats a dream
43:13 <Lemon> hoooo I think I saw it !
43:13 <Ysjoelfir> omfg guys.... I just have to be fascinated for a second.
43:38 * electrohead fascinates Ysjoelfir even more with his sexy man boobs
44:01 <Ysjoelfir> I told you a few days (1.5 weeks? dunno..) ago about those "calmer" earplugs that reduce high noises, right? those arrived now and the effect is realy realy cool
44:13 <electrohead> link?
44:20 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.flareaudio.com/pages/calmer-life
44:21 <eevBot> [Title] - Calmer Life
45:44 <Ysjoelfir> I always had problems with stress due to the pretty loud area I live in (our apartment is basically surounded by three highways...). Just plugged those things into my ears - I don't hear those highways anymore. at least its A LOT quieter. like having a selective earplug that filters only "annoying noise"
46:09 <electrohead> hrmm, interesting
46:13 * electrohead likes his noises
46:16 <electrohead> lol
46:17 * T3sl4 pats Ysjoelfir on the back, firmly but not loudly
46:55 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir https://amzn.to/3nVjsPe cheap cheap
46:56 <eevBot> [Title] - Bitly
46:57 <Ysjoelfir> Its.... fascinating. I can see how that will reduce my stress levels by a lot and increase my concentration, as I assume I won't be distracted that easy anymore.
47:07 <Lemon> hmmm quite interesting
47:08 <Ysjoelfir> lol rust_collector :D
47:20 <Lemon> I recently started using earplugs when sleeping for the same reasons
47:29 <Lemon> usually at my computer Ij ust put my headphones
47:33 <Lemon> but those looks neat
47:43 <Lemon> and yes, noise is extremely stress inducing
47:58 <Lemon> you got highways, I got 50+ drunkards
48:14 <Ysjoelfir> I can't use earplugs at night, I get headache from them :( and yes, the headphones is what I use at the PC, but the noises are usually loud enough to get to my ears if I don't turn op the music so loud that I get a headache from loud music instead
48:21 <Lemon> a 28 y/o telling a 50+ man thats no, its not super nice to yell at fucking 5am is kinda weird
48:34 <Lemon> you tested a couple times for earplugs ?
48:35 <Ysjoelfir> lol
48:37 <Lemon> I also had issues at first
48:39 <rust_collector> I am a bit different, noises are fine, but people talking is very annoying.
48:46 <Lemon> I tried various ways to put them and bam
48:49 <Lemon> now its perfect :>
48:55 <Lemon> I prefer foam over the others tho
49:12 <Lemon> yeah same rusty, they yell, talk out loud at any hour etc
49:17 <Lemon> and their flat is at 5 meters from mine
49:21 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I have been testing several versions of earplugs as well. no luck there
50:44 <Lemon> arf alright
50:54 <Lemon> good you found the calming thingies then :>
51:07 <Lemon> thats quite a nice feeling to say, after a couple hours "damn thats quiet"
56:38 <electrohead> I could literally sleep in my lab area, where all the fans are spinning away happily
56:41 <electrohead> it's soothing to me :p
58:29 <rust_collector> I have no problems with large generators and machines making noise all night. it is just people that are annoying
00:15 <Ysjoelfir> It would be pretty tough in your job if you would have a problem with that, rusty, wouldn't it?
00:50 <rust_collector> well, no, not these days. it is not THAT often, that I get to sleep much at work any more
01:13 <T3sl4> steve30: https://www.reddit.com/r/Catswhoyell/comments/n60nm2/miiiilk/
01:14 <eevBot> [Title] - reddit: the front page of the internet
01:16 <Lemon> yeah thats true, I also dont mind fan noises or alike, if they are constant
01:17 <rust_collector> BUt I do tend to sleep better in the truck, so maybe I should
01:18 <Ysjoelfir> also I don't have a problem with STATIC noises like fans and stuff. but those all time changing stuff like the highway, cars speeding by, people screaming on the streets, the dog of the neighbors barking for every leaf thats falling in their backyard,....
01:30 <Lemon> I actually sleep with my pc on 24.7 to cover neighboors noises
01:54 <rust_collector> put some cardboard into the fans?
02:01 <rust_collector> prrrrrrrrrrrr
02:05 <Ysjoelfir> lol
03:09 <rust_collector> I would say playing card, but then I would be worried that you would start collecting them in stead
03:35 <Ysjoelfir> oh damn, I just tried listening to some music with those things. I can't say that it sounds "better", but definitely different. and it feels to me like its easyer to listen to, as the harsh tones are supressed.
04:07 <rust_collector> and I don't want to hear about playing cards from between 1962 to 1970 in a particular region in france
04:21 <Ysjoelfir> xD
12:59 <Lemon> I already collect stamps, thats enough lol
13:36 <Lemon> rusty you didnt even tell me if you like that poiwer supply, as its one of the thing you actually like
13:39 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/274785415804
13:40 <eevBot> [Title] - Agilent 6629 a système DC Power Supply | eBay
13:47 <rust_collector> nope.
14:09 <Lemon> hoooooo whyyy
14:19 <Lemon> I doubt the guy will let it go at 150 euros lol
14:22 <rust_collector> I think they are ugly
14:27 <Lemon> yeah ?
14:33 <Lemon> well analog ones are neat
14:37 <rust_collector> I am sure it is a good supply.
14:37 <Lemon> but I like that style too
14:54 <Lemon> man that would be the perfection for me
15:07 <Lemon> but I fear it will go super high
15:35 <rust_collector> if you are going to plug it in to your computer thing, it does not matter, but I still really hate that look
16:06 <Lemon> you prefer analog stuff ?
16:11 <Lemon> like the ones I have actually
16:13 <T3sl4> also steve30: https://i.redd.it/mcyvmtmemhx61.jpg
16:19 <Lemon> I remember you liked my topward
16:31 <Lemon> the dual/triple (if you count the fixed 5v3a one) output one
16:51 <Lemon> I really want one that is gpib/whatever capable
18:05 <rust_collector> well, yes, i think that one is nice. and in general analog things are more to my taste.
21:22 <Lemon> thats true I like the looks too better
21:36 <Lemon> for the hp/aglient one I'd go up to 200 euros
21:56 <Lemon> the fact that it got 4 outputs, that you can put is series/parallel and tons of other features is perfect
26:12 <Lemon> this morning I tried to power my adc board with a supply instead of the arduinos 5v
26:22 <Lemon> but its still unstable as soon as I use a resistor divider
26:27 <Lemon> thats really weird
28:45 <Lemon> the worst part is that I managed to calibrate it pretty decently
28:57 <Lemon> but readings are weird, they jump
29:00 <Lemon> not in a normal way, that is
29:32 <Lemon> its not a problem of last 1-2 digits jumping back/forth, its more like having 5-6 times in a row the good reading, then it shifts by 100ppm, goes back to normal and so on
31:51 <Lemon> I remember electrohead telling me about a decoupling cap
31:55 <Lemon> or was it coupling ?
32:03 <Lemon> but I dont really know where and what to use
32:43 <T3sl4> is the vref bad? scope it?
33:39 <Lemon> its too tiny to be scoped with what I have sadly
33:48 <Lemon> but when I measure it, it indeed acts weird, its not stable
33:56 <Lemon> but maybe im doing something wrong
35:16 <Lemon> actually its fine
35:21 <Lemon> much better than before
35:30 <Lemon> so the power supply helped
35:34 <Lemon> lets try again with the divider
56:28 <Lemon> nope
56:37 <Lemon> as soon as I add a simple two resistor divider, its unstable
57:27 <rust_collector> use huger ar tinyer resistors, and see if that changes anything?
57:29 <hsn> Oui
57:39 <Lemon> yeah I tried various values
57:41 <Lemon> same thing
58:24 <Lemon> when Im not using a divider its fairly stable, lets say if I measure 1V its stable down to the 4th digit, 5th moving a bit
58:49 <rust_collector> I don't remember what your thing was supposed to do either. keep working on it
58:58 <Lemon> a simple voltmeter
59:22 <hsn> How much ur divider taking
00:16 <hsn> Current
01:25 <Lemon> well im using a 1M and 33K ohm resistor, so the 33K is taking only a few 10s/100s of uA
01:33 <Lemon> even less for the other
02:02 * T3sl4 teabags hsn
02:57 <hsn> T3sl4: r u dipping me into hot water .. or dipping tea for me
03:10 <rust_collector> *snicker*
03:15 <T3sl4> *sips* wouldn't you like to know
04:07 <hsn> You know me like to know
04:27 <rust_collector> eeh, do an online search
04:38 <hsn> For what
04:46 <rust_collector> teabagging?
05:57 <rust_collector> you do know tea is often sold in little filter material bags, you can plop into water right?
08:33 <T3sl4> what other things come in little material bags that you can plop into water?
09:11 <rust_collector> kittens?
09:49 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/kHd47NUSXFYNMgoU8
10:38 <rust_collector> eeeeeh, okay... why are you in the weird corner of the internet...again?
10:56 <hsn> idk but i dont like the results of teabagging images
11:02 <hsn> lots of balls :D
11:15 <T3sl4> well thats a shame
12:04 <hsn> A sexual act where a males testicles are dipped in and out of the partners mouth. Similar to how a teabag is used while making a cup of tea.
12:12 <hsn> ur not joking this to me r u ? :D
12:36 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/WK918qGF9CkvJZy77
12:37 <T3sl4> wow, why are you reading about acts prohibited in your country?
14:18 <T3sl4> but anyway, the other context is tapping crouch in video games, often to flex on an adversary you've just defeated
14:27 <hsn> for educational purposes only
14:47 <T3sl4> which is more in line with the first image you pulled up, but irl
15:21 <T3sl4> but also just to be expressive, because there's not really much expression in old FPSs
16:07 <hsn> i think i understand 10% .. but ok .. thanks for the tea .. next time u sleep .. i pour coffee beans to ur mouth
16:27 <rust_collector> sleep... yes
16:29 <T3sl4> more daddy
16:37 <T3sl4> i mean, what?
16:43 <hsn> stupid hexchat ctrl + c stuff doesnt work
17:04 <hsn> brb quit
17:07 <Ysjoelfir> mrs. spouse discovered Danheim. Thats not to bad I think.
17:26 <hsn> s. spous
17:30 <hsn> yeah now it works
17:37 <rust_collector> is that also some pervy thing?
17:48 <Ysjoelfir> that depends
17:55 <hsn> Danheim ?
18:01 <hsn> ooooooi Ysjoelfir hooow is u
18:02 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va297erJjJ4&t=20s
18:03 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Danheim - Skapanir (Full album 2020) Nordic Folk & Dark Viking Music
18:05 <rust_collector> home of dan, i guess
18:42 <hsn> http://beefchunk.com/documentation/sys-programming/binary_formats/elf/elf_from_the_programmers_perspective/node4.html#SECTION00031000000000000000
18:42 <eevBot> [Title] - Global Constructors and Destructors in C++
19:17 <rust_collector> I dislike c++
19:28 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, I am pretty good. thanks. you?
19:42 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, if u good .. then .. im good
19:46 <hsn> :D
19:50 <Ysjoelfir> awww
21:55 <Kuschelpony> oh yay, someone must have a hard time to fiddle the wires in place inside that cramped plug https://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/515755/Netzadapter.jpg
22:31 <Ysjoelfir> uuuh, I love those, Kuschelpony. I did the DGUV3 checks in my old company. Always nice convincing the people that THAT is shit.
23:17 <Kuschelpony> oh i still do these checks in my job... but i also make all the time cords and adapters when needed
23:41 <Ysjoelfir> nothing bad about making cords. IF they are done propperly. :D
23:48 <Kuschelpony> obviously this special adapter cant pass the test as ther is no way to clamp two cords safely that they dont slip out when pulled
23:52 <Ysjoelfir> which... they never were
24:18 <Kuschelpony> what i meant is, inside that black plug its alrtedy cramped to attach one cord with 1,5mm^2
24:27 <Kuschelpony> so these cant be two done well
24:40 * T3sl4 hugs Kuschelpony
24:44 <Kuschelpony> oh when i do cords they are very close to be properly
25:05 <Ysjoelfir> yeah... also, that one going to the Schuko doesn't look like 3x1.5mm2 to me.
25:18 <Ysjoelfir> I remember having a very nice experience once with a customer who built a Harakiri adpater.
27:21 <Ysjoelfir> two MALE schuko plugs on a cable. one side plugged into the wall, the other into one of those cable-less power distribution thingies you can add your own fixed wiring to, basically backfeeding it from one receptacle. I was literally shocked when I touched the pins of that thing while pulling it out of the distributor.
30:59 <Kuschelpony> ah well in an old job i have done a demonstration where i plugged the second plug of such an cable into a piece of meat and let them watch and smell
31:09 <Kuschelpony> "now think this is your hand"
32:09 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
32:59 <Ysjoelfir> one very beloved thing was also using NYM cable to make flexible leads.
33:52 <hsn> hey pony guy ur name is Kuschel ?
34:04 <Ysjoelfir> oh, and using.... erm.... Luesterklemmen to make longer cables. without ferrules, of course.
34:35 <rust_collector> hsn didn't you start learning german?
34:48 * hsn kuschels rust_collector 
34:52 <rust_collector> right
35:06 <hsn> rust_collector, dont u know .. i only start things .. and leave them at start point ..
35:29 <hsn> just like the oscilliscope i won in bidding .. which is laying behind me
35:51 <hsn> the next step after winning a scope .. is to put it on the bench .. unpowered ..
36:07 <rust_collector> the other day, i found my stack of german course cds....
36:54 <Kuschelpony> hsn, 2Kuschel" like cuddly
37:47 <Kuschelpony> and to note this, while my body theoretically has male bits, i prefer to keep gender out of discussions and focus on the technical content
42:39 <rust_collector> Not to be difficult or anything... but say we are discussing something, and I say " Kuschelpony says he saw a xxxxxxxxx thing on somewhere". it is not because I want to label you to any gender, but it is just the natural way for me to write a sentence. I hope it is not annoying you much
43:19 <Kuschelpony> oh that was not meant to you, rust_collector but to hsn when writing "hey pony guy"
43:33 <Kuschelpony> i just wanted to say it unspecific for everyone
44:06 <rust_collector> right. I just feel I had to mention it. I have thought about it now and then
44:12 <Kuschelpony> and to add what i really have hated in other channels elsewhere, when the first questions were "male or female"
44:24 <Kuschelpony> no worries, just keep engineering :)
46:25 <hsn> Kuschelpony, sorry .. i just find the kuschel hard to spell ..
46:34 <T3sl4> "they" works for the most part, if you want to avoid assuming
46:45 <hsn> and its more like i have short names for u all .. :D
46:49 <T3sl4> i just type k-u-s-TAB :P
47:28 <rust_collector> T3sl4 it feels weird to say "they found a usb-fish on ebay"
47:41 <rust_collector> when I mean specific person
47:43 * electrohead waves at the pony guy and runs
47:53 <rust_collector> hah
48:01 <T3sl4> it's an evolving meaning, yeah
48:04 * hsn Kuschels kushelspony
48:06 <electrohead> lol
48:11 <electrohead> so, my seeds are on the way :D
48:17 <rust_collector> offff
48:27 <electrohead> I'm really looking forward to growing habanero peppers <3
48:39 <hsn> i killed my seeds
49:23 <hsn> well .. they grew for few days .. discovered that life is miserablly sucks .. and decided to die
49:33 <electrohead> lol
49:49 <electrohead> any other hot pepper fanatics in here?
49:57 <rust_collector> just Halcyon
49:59 <hsn> Halcyon, i think ^
50:09 <electrohead> yeah, him for sure
50:19 <electrohead> he sent me spicy beef jerkey twice already
50:22 <electrohead> heh
50:44 <rust_collector> i like my mild-ish jalapenos. that is enough for me
50:45 <hsn> he was saying somthing nice about pepper to me which reminds me i have to send him dates cookie and palm water .. well thats long time ago shit ..
50:50 * hsn hides from Halcyon 
51:05 <electrohead> lol
51:29 <T3sl4> i suppose i could get some pots and dirt, and put them in my windows
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51:47 <hsn> T3sl4, cant u put them in linux ?
52:53 <rust_collector> american seeds die after a couple days in linux
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53:58 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead, I heard peppers?
54:53 <rust_collector> well, put your fancy earhole pluggers in?
55:02 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir capsaicinly
55:59 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, I have those in me' ears :P its nice.
56:04 * Ysjoelfir fires T3sl4
00:11 <Ysjoelfir> oh, Kuschelpony!
00:42 <Ysjoelfir> I told you about those earplugs I wanted to order, didn't I? when we were talking about autism and whatnot?
01:22 <hsn> i set fire
01:34 <hsn> to the sand
01:35 <Ysjoelfir> to the rain?
01:37 <Ysjoelfir> ah
01:54 <Ysjoelfir> so you basically just left the sand where it is and waited?
01:59 <Kuschelpony> hm, did you mean noise cancelling headphones or did my mental memory mix up something?
02:18 <Ysjoelfir> either it does, or I didn't tell you :)
02:19 <hsn> and the rain ? isnt it there almost all the time ?
03:35 <Ysjoelfir> mrs. spouse found earplugs that are canceling the amplifying effect of the outer ear canal, reducing rough/sharp noises. I decided to try them, ordered them and today they finally arrived. It is gorgeous. It realy helps to focus and not being distracted by every "alarming" sound around me
03:44 <rust_collector> but zanzibar, where is that lalalalalalalaaa
04:08 <Kuschelpony> hmm, interesting
04:35 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.flareaudio.com/pages/calmer-life here, if you want to read about it. there is also a report from some lab, prooving that the effect is legitimate
04:36 <eevBot> [Title] - Calmer Life
04:56 <Kuschelpony> but my noise sensitivity is a different thing, its totally about "jumping" to decode voices, and not much about the noise itself
05:46 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: yup :D
05:51 <rust_collector> that sounds like my thing
06:18 <rust_collector> always trying to hear what voices say,
07:18 <rust_collector> which is pretty shit, when there are 200 people talking around you
07:36 <electrohead> https://www.sandiaseed.com/collections/hot-pepper-seeds/products/chocolate-habanero and https://www.sandiaseed.com/collections/hottest-pepper-seeds/products/bhut-jolokia-purple
07:37 <eevBot> [Title] -
08:08 <Kuschelpony> rustcollector, yes
08:27 <Kuschelpony> thats what keeps me out of munches and other social events, or when i do i have to leave them with headaches
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12:31 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead, those look delicious.
14:02 <Ysjoelfir> I recently tasted normal habaneros again after some years. "back than" I nearly died when I tried them. now, after eating more spicy food for a while, I tried them again and they were tasty, but not overly hot.
14:41 <electrohead> heh, yeah it grows on you for sure :D
15:07 <rust_collector> that is mushrooms, it is a different sort of thing
15:27 <Ysjoelfir> I also tried ghost reaper that day. THOSE were hot. but taste-wise pretty.... well.... bad. realy bad. I had the oppinion they just tasted like dirt
15:33 * Ysjoelfir also loves shrooms
15:52 <T3sl4> ghost raper?
16:51 <Ysjoelfir> uhuh. yeah.
20:06 <electrohead> reaper
20:08 <electrohead> lol
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36:55 <rust_collector> hmm, wife is going up north tomorrow, to help pack stuff... And it looks like I will go there on the 20th, or so, then drive back. WHYYYY do they always time things so I don't really have time to do what I should...every damn time
38:39 <Ysjoelfir> I heard that is the bad thing of having a wife
39:13 <rust_collector> oh, did you... and still you..... never mind...
42:11 <Ysjoelfir> its always good to have faith, isn't it
42:26 <rust_collector> not really, no
42:33 <rust_collector> but good luck
44:22 <Ysjoelfir> lol
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51:46 <hsn> Does ppl in ur countries make lots of jokes and memes about chineese lost controll rocket
52:01 <rust_collector> nope
52:20 <rust_collector> or, at least not enough that I have heard about it at all
52:37 <Ysjoelfir> nope, we just have news that be like "uuuh, the chinese are fucking up AGAIN". like if no other country ever did such stupid things :D
53:02 <hsn> Its so much boring here .. only jokes about world events ..
53:36 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: here they laugh and ask each other .. where u think it will fall
53:54 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27LZr9dDWRs
53:55 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: KEYGEN CHURCH - ░█░█░░█░█░█░
57:01 <Kuschelpony> hmmm, i get tempted http://www.spectrumaudio.de/breit/lyeco/lyecoLY401F.html
57:02 <eevBot> [Title] - Lyeco Breitbandlautsprecher LY401F
58:01 <Ysjoelfir> that looks like a pretty linear speaker
59:22 <Kuschelpony> yep, and a pretty strong magnet with this level of efficiency and the qel of 0,29
59:31 <Kuschelpony> must resist ot buy
00:37 <Ysjoelfir> I recently bought a pair of visaton FRS 10 WP
01:22 <rust_collector> come on Kuschelpony! you can do it! You are not Lemon
01:31 <Ysjoelfir> hahahahaha :D
01:35 <rust_collector> donn't buy don't but
02:04 <Kuschelpony> hih, im still mostly happy with the other 20cm wideband speakers from my winter project
03:31 <rust_collector> fight the power! down with audio things!
04:22 <rust_collector> uhm, you don't really need those. But they do look very neat
04:36 <rust_collector> and the specs look ok to me
05:02 <Kuschelpony> assuming i find another room that still needs good speakers :) i would imagine tall standing boxes wit hthis plus a woofer in the socket
05:19 <Kuschelpony> but yes, look like a gem for that price
05:35 <Kuschelpony> well, finishing so many other projects first
05:51 <rust_collector> are you sure you are not related to Lemon in some way? lol
06:29 <Kuschelpony> im not sure if he is related to me :)
07:44 <rust_collector> yay! kid #3 dumped a 10mm colour changing led on my bench. now we have a red green blue little plastic tree
08:12 <rust_collector> I asked if she wanted to put them together, but she has school things to do
08:25 <rust_collector> I really wonder who her real parents was
10:20 <hsn> Binjaafar.com/index2.html
10:24 <Ysjoelfir> xD naaah come on. :P
10:41 <hsn> I put gold gold gold into my server
10:53 <rust_collector> is that your "bank" hsn ?
11:10 <Ysjoelfir> uuuuuuuuh, goooooooodl
11:26 <hsn> My friend has gold shop so i told him take the domain and i ll host something static for u
11:38 <hsn> Until u do what u want
12:32 <Ysjoelfir> thats nice of you :)
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14:23 <hsn> Thx .. think about it Ysjoelfir .. i lose nothing .. he pays the domain .. in case he wanted a website he will ask for it + some development .. and then i can suggest my self if i wanted to develop it .. i dont think i would though
14:45 <Ysjoelfir> thats an argument
15:05 <hsn> ^ not like im forcing him for development .. its just would be more easier for him
17:11 <hsn> But tbh i just wanted him to make a website and system for his shop
17:43 <hsn> All these shops do lots of manual stuff. . i think if he did some great system he can grow really fast
18:12 <rust_collector> did he get those press thingies?
18:36 <hsn> Press?
18:44 <hsn> The press machine?
19:01 <rust_collector> yeah, or if it was the dies he was looking for. I don't remember
19:04 <hsn> He has one .. but few dies or somthing
19:25 <hsn> Idk didnt go to his workshop long time ago
19:57 <hsn> Its interesting stuff that workshop has carpet that can be sold to special gold carpet recycling ppl
20:47 <rust_collector> " we do ram sticks and carpet recycling"
21:13 <hsn> https://instagram.com/binjaafar.jewellery
23:27 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: he also nice to me he invest me somthing risk free
23:52 <hsn> 10% profit in 1 year .. well he needs cash flow ..
25:03 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :) nice
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48:44 <Halcyon> Morning
49:35 <rust_collector> blinking rgb led deer in a bowl, that is pretty damn annoying. I should make a little shelf, so i can display all this crap
49:50 <rust_collector> hey Halcyon
49:58 <Halcyon> Or you could just get rid of it rust_collector ?
50:00 <Halcyon> :P
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50:32 <rust_collector> no, the wide got rid of it, that is why I have it here, I just installed the blinking and colour part in it
50:41 <rust_collector> the wide wife
51:16 <Halcyon> Right
51:45 <rust_collector> it is only missing a high frequency beep every few hours
52:25 <Halcyon> Speaking of annoying things, I need to change my smoke alarm batteries
52:50 <rust_collector> Or you could just get rid of it, Halcyon ?
52:57 * electrohead rubs on Halcyon
53:08 <Halcyon> Can't, also don't want to, they are a good thing to have
53:11 <Halcyon> \o/
53:14 <electrohead> |
53:17 <electrohead> < >
53:19 <Halcyon> Hahaha
53:20 <electrohead> lol
53:23 <electrohead> :p
53:25 <Halcyon> Clown
53:33 <Halcyon> Anyway better go finish getting ready for work
53:33 <rust_collector> I didn't know you smoked?
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02:43 <rust_collector> gluing aluminium foil on the left side of a deer makes it reflect much better
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03:15 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds shiny
03:27 <Ysjoelfir> and I still enjoy that song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa82YBQw2v4
03:28 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Def Lev - I Don't Give A ...
03:51 <Ysjoelfir> with the fancy earplugs and with headphones I get the impression that it boosts the beats even more. nice :D
04:27 <Ysjoelfir> |nn|
07:19 <hsn> Halcyon: change ur smoke
07:27 <rust_collector> I agree
07:37 <rust_collector> or go to ikea
07:51 <Ysjoelfir> are there smokes in ikea?
09:26 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/AY4XWpsCkutEE46c8
09:58 <rust_collector> not sure, but it is a very unhealthy place
11:12 <rust_collector> heh, this tiny little pouch battery does hold an impressive amount of power
11:33 <rust_collector> I found it in a tiny mp3 player, that never worked.
11:48 <rust_collector> which was because the battery was never connected to anything
12:21 <rust_collector> but it does run an rgb christmas tree ok
13:21 <Ysjoelfir> nice repurposing :D
13:36 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir try an older song... one that has actual bass, as bass
14:28 <Ysjoelfir> I am always open for suggestions. Though I know exactly what you mean, BUT I think that def lev one is pretty good for a 2021 song, isn't it?
14:44 <rust_collector> sure
15:31 <rust_collector> heh, you could be awkward, and play il-76
15:52 <rust_collector> not to fix the bass thing
16:07 <rust_collector> but it is sort of punchy sounding
17:32 <Ysjoelfir> I love that one :P
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19:43 <hsn> Hey Ysjoelfir
19:51 <Ysjoelfir> thats me
19:52 <hsn> Question of the day is easy ..
20:18 <hsn> Isolated Dc dc converter .. low voltage one
20:48 <hsn> Idealy for safety it should be connected to earth also .. so output of it coupled to earth right?
21:34 <hsn> Wouldn't that break the isolation if output of (input dc) is also coupled to earth?
22:09 <rust_collector> sounds right
24:24 <hsn> Meanking .. ive 48vdc (it should be near earth potential) .. lets say it goes to 48vdc-> 12vdc converter .. that 12vdc is also should be coupled to earth right?
24:40 <Ysjoelfir> that highly depends on your circuit. if you need it floating you obviously don't want any earth reference. but usually, and I think thats what you refer to, you have the secondary GND connected to earth. thats for imho 2 reasons. 1) to provide a return path for any leakages, 2) for safety reasons.
25:27 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, it would breakt the isolation if its directly connected to GND. but its still not dangerous as the positive voltage is not at any dangerous levels
26:18 <hsn> Yes .. then why someone creates isolated module 24v to 12v ..
26:47 <Ysjoelfir> because you might need an isolated, floating 12V somewhere
27:07 <hsn> Hmmm .. why xD
27:09 <Ysjoelfir> AC switching with FETs comes to mind, or powering some circuits that are floating on some other voltage
28:10 <hsn> And .. is earth coupled with direct connection .. or through 2kv safety rated capacitor ?
28:59 <rust_collector> yes?
29:02 <Ysjoelfir> depends on the device. if its a class 1 / earthed application than its usually directly earthed. if its a class 2 / double insulated device, its coupled to a safety cap (if at all)
30:04 <hsn> ^ so the safety cap has 2kV .. which means that 12v is actually can be 1.9kV far from earth? ... No?
30:13 <hsn> Isnt that danger? XD
30:52 <hsn> rust_collector: u like how i made one question into series of questions? XD
31:02 <Ysjoelfir> sure. but if you connect that thing to some circuit that is on 1.9kV from earth you should be able to know that you are dealing with something dangerous
31:02 <rust_collector> not bad, not bad
32:31 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: no im just curious how its safe yo touch .. if its far from earth .. as the 2kv capacitor .. doesnt really couple dc from rising above earth .. hmmm
32:41 <hsn> Safe to touch
33:05 <Ysjoelfir> IF you connect it to something that can rise to 1.9kVDC from ground its very obviously unsafe :D
33:12 <rust_collector> why do you want to lick all the things?
33:57 <Ysjoelfir> a good example for that would be the heater voltage of CRTs. that is usually somewhere near cathode potential, so like -3000V. the heater itself is 6.3VAC, but you would not be a happy guy touching that.
35:22 <hsn> Rusty, i mean ..
35:22 <hsn> 220vac ----> 24vdc (i assume the out gnd is near earth) ----> dcdc 12vout isolated (gnd or 12v is safe to lick)?
36:05 <rust_collector> you will most likely not die from that
37:29 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: so .. its 6.3vac .. playing with offset of 3000v?
37:44 <Ysjoelfir> yes. 3kV referenced to GND.
37:56 <Ysjoelfir> well, -3kV
38:17 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ci4pAYiUw
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38:32 <hsn> Why would u make it so far from earth
40:13 <rust_collector> it has to be somewhere? where would you put it?
40:35 <Ysjoelfir> because you don't want the cathode to arc to your heater.
40:46 <hsn> Near earth .. make others happy to touch ..
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42:14 <Ysjoelfir> keep in mind that the heater is a few micrometers away from the cathode, and the cathode needs to be pretty far from the control grids/plates and anode to emit the electrons fast enough to make a sharp dot. so if you would have the heater at GND potential and the cathode in its normal working condition it would arc
43:53 <T3sl4> typically V_hk is like 50-200V, and in a scope CRT, there has to be a couple kV between cathode and deflection plates
44:09 <T3sl4> isolating deflection would be stupid, so they put those near GND and cathode at -2kV or whatever
45:02 <Ysjoelfir> vhk is the voltage allowed to be between heater and cathode, just to clarify
45:21 <T3sl4> in a mag deflection CRT like most TVs/monitors used, cathode can be near GND, and indeed needs to be because video goes into the control grid, for the same reason as the deflection plates
45:45 <T3sl4> there's no deflection plates so that's easy, it's just magnetic coils, and then the anode can be at +kV's
45:52 <T3sl4> hence the flyback transformer and the HV cup connector thingy
46:06 <Ysjoelfir> ^
51:01 <hsn> T3sl4: if u ve 24vdc that is safe to touch .. and u feed it to dcdc isolated module 12vdc out .. is that 12v safe to touch?
51:20 <T3sl4> yes?
51:28 <Ysjoelfir> why would it not be?
51:43 <hsn> But if its isolated .. then that 12v can be far from earth ..?
51:44 <T3sl4> if the 12v isn't connected to something else that's unsafe
52:09 <T3sl4> if it's isolated, it can't electrocute you
52:27 <T3sl4> assume the body is somewhat grounded, for example wet feet on concrete
52:31 <hsn> Yes .. so its not safe until u tie it to earth right?
52:44 <T3sl4> why?
52:59 <T3sl4> just because it "can" handle 10kV to GND, doesn't mean it will have it when you touch it
53:05 <T3sl4> where's the current coming from?
53:14 <T3sl4> i wish to invest in your free energy machine
53:25 <hsn> T3sl4: if it's isolated, it can't electrocute you
53:30 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir this one is always good in your ears: http://www.5z8.info/instant-purchase_b5d9gn_olive-loaf-penetration.gif
53:35 <Ysjoelfir> the whole thing is - as its often - highly depending on the use case. you just HAVE to know what you are doing. if you connect your isolated circuit to something that could be potentially lethal... well, the former safe thing can become lethal pretty fast.
54:00 <T3sl4> that's a strange redirect url
54:10 * Ysjoelfir is strangely irritated by that URL
54:20 <T3sl4> ah, i see, that's 5z8's point
54:33 <hsn> 00:51] T3sl4: if the 12v isn't connected to something else that's unsafe
54:33 <hsn> [00:52] T3sl4: if it's isolated, it can't electrocute you
54:33 <hsn> [00:52] T3sl4: assume the body is somewhat grounded, for example wet feet on concrete
54:33 <hsn> [00:52] hsn: Yes .. so its not safe until u tie it to earth right?
54:33 <hsn> [00:52] T3sl4: why?
54:44 <rust_collector> eh, you could try this: http://www.5z8.info/nazi_z2r0sn_open_exe_begin_transfer
54:58 <hsn> T3sl4: u said its not safe .. and when i repated u ask me why XD
55:17 <T3sl4> oh, you misread
55:24 <T3sl4> if it's not connected to anything else which is unsafe
55:40 <T3sl4> then it's not going to be magically unsafe in and of itself
57:17 <hsn> Right .. why wouldn't it .. though .. if its isolated .. its floating it can have any voltage far from earth .. ?
57:38 <T3sl4> doesn't matter if it builds up a voltage
57:41 <T3sl4> there's a clause for that
57:45 <rust_collector> yes, but only if something gives it that voltage
58:47 <T3sl4> there's a voltage-time curve in e.g. IEC 60950-1 for allowable voltage on SELV, or maybe it was one of the less safe TNV's, i forget
59:14 <T3sl4> put another way... it's not illegal to ESD people
59:15 <T3sl4> :P
00:03 <hsn> rust_collector: u mean mybe someone came at night while im sleeping and put 1kv vattery + terminal to the 12vout .. and the battery - to earth .. for few seconds and removed it and hide batteries?
00:46 <T3sl4> or someone shuffled their feet along the carpet
01:35 <hsn> Someone shuffled feet wount hurt me unless he hurt him self i guess
03:36 <T3sl4> you don't want to put like a 10nF+ cap in there, that'll store a harmful charge at that kinda voltage
04:00 <T3sl4> which is why such caps are limited in value, and also for mains ground leakage
14:39 <Ysjoelfir> I'm going to bed. have enjoys everyone
15:53 <rust_collector> natta katta
17:39 <DHess_US> Why would this Nanuk case be limited to 1 per customer? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BP8URVS/
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17:27 <electrohead> o/
17:29 * electrohead films
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39:48 * Ampera vomits all over the channel's floor, but a bit less violently than this morning
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41:54 <rust_collector> very green thinking. recycling is what cows figured out a long time ago
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10:56 <alfbaz> Good afternoon folks
11:07 <rust_collector> morning you
11:32 <alfbaz> could of said the same 10 minutes ago :P
12:46 <alfbaz> ended up having a few beers last night, was nice, no dramas
12:52 <rust_collector> WOOHOO!
13:39 * alfbaz hands rust_collector a left over beer, crispy cold
13:46 <rust_collector> eeew!
13:55 <rust_collector> well, thanks, I guess
14:37 <alfbaz> would you like a pretzel with it?
15:30 <rust_collector> nah, that is fine. I could use a bottle of vodka, to help the ice cold beer go down
16:12 <alfbaz> have't had a vodka in years
16:41 <rust_collector> well, I have pretty much quit drinking beer. so I have to have something
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19:51 <alfbaz> yarghh gotta get out in the shed and put up more drywall sheets for the lab. The sheets have become heaps floppy due to moisture from all the rain we've been having
20:12 * T3sl4 hands alfbaz a little blue pill
20:19 <rust_collector> wet drywall... perfect
26:14 <alfbaz> T3sl4 LMAO!
33:57 <alfbaz> look's like i'll have to loose my google account. They're constantly asking for my birthday. The only thing I'll miss is my list of subsrcribed utube channels.
34:18 <alfbaz> I'll just go lo tech and write them down on a peice of paper :P
34:43 <rust_collector> chisel them on slate... best way
35:15 <alfbaz> you have to be over 18 to buy a chissel
35:22 <rust_collector> if you see a burning bush, just sue the power company
35:46 <alfbaz> ... or call moses :P
36:23 <rust_collector> yeah, he is good with water, they say
37:08 <Ampera> good evening weirdos
37:13 <rust_collector> otoh, with all the plastic and oil in the sea these days, that could be worth videoing
37:37 <rust_collector> morning, amperaist
37:57 <Ampera> I am in a weird state of being tired, but not being able to sleep
38:05 <Ampera> so I just have to be awake and tired
38:29 * Ampera yawn-sneeze-vomits
38:30 <rust_collector> same here. I don't think I deal well with having time off
38:45 <Ampera> oh I have no problem not working
38:59 <Ampera> that's probably the only good thing about the second vax shot
39:10 <Ampera> I have an excuse for a free day off
39:18 <rust_collector> I am ok with not working. it is just that I don't have to go to work
39:28 <alfbaz> howdy Ampera
39:38 <Ampera> good morning alfbaz
39:43 <rust_collector> most days at work, I don't do much work, but I have to go there
40:13 <Ampera> that's what sucks about working at home, you might have things to do, but oh boy can nobody see me watching youtube on the clock
40:34 <Ampera> and you'd think that they'd catch onto that, but what's sad is everyone does it themselves
40:38 <Ampera> so we're all equally worthless
43:15 <alfbaz> Ampera which brand vax did you have, if you don't mind me asking
43:24 <Ampera> pfizer
43:30 <Ampera> this was my second shot
44:06 <alfbaz> yeah that's the one I want but here in oz if you're over 50 you have to have the astra
44:57 <Ampera> you're over 50?
44:58 <Ampera> interesting
45:07 <alfbaz> 54
45:08 <rust_collector> it is an environmental thing, as they don't need to be cooled that much
45:17 <Ampera> you never know how old people are over the internet
45:25 <rust_collector> hehe
45:25 <Ampera> until they tell you anyways
45:38 <Ampera> most of the stock in NY is pfizer
45:48 <Ampera> some places give out moderna and some big sites give out J&J
46:00 <Ampera> I wanted pfizer because it's NY/German, like me
46:07 <Ampera> no other reason, just that reason
46:39 <alfbaz> only the pfizer and astra have been approved here thus far
47:25 <Ampera> we have pfizer, j&j and moderna, and I'd say most of what's being given out is pfizer and moderna
47:50 <Ampera> which is good, because apparently they work way better than most other vaccines
48:48 <rust_collector> well, we will see. maybe you will have lots of funny looking kids running around there in 2 years
49:04 <alfbaz> there seems to be nothing good about the astra, relatively low efficacy and blood clots as a side effect
50:00 <rust_collector> I think that depends on how you measure it. and who the hell knows how different people measure things
50:09 <Ampera> afaik the clots are super rare for both AZ and J&J
50:26 <rust_collector> "We only count the cases where blahblah"
50:33 <rust_collector> yes, they are
51:45 <alfbaz> as somebody who likes measuring and understands statistics I should know better but still...
53:03 <alfbaz> I think what's putting me off isn't any of the risks, it's the BS pedaled by the poly's.
53:50 <alfbaz> They're saying it's safe for over 50's but unsafe for the under 50's as such ppl below 50 will be given pfizer
54:19 <Ampera> Well, be glad you live in a country that's been relatively unscathed by COVID
55:00 <Ampera> Our restrictions aren't that bad, and the growing vaccination rates is making things better, but places like Europe where people are quite literally locked inside their homes
56:06 <rust_collector> I want my own continent. I don't feel I should be called european
56:09 <alfbaz> Yeah how about India right now, it's terrible
56:24 <rust_collector> well, india is terrible in general
56:33 <Ampera> europangean, rust_collector
56:49 <rust_collector> can I have that?
56:57 <Ampera> sure?
57:03 <rust_collector> HOOHOO!
57:14 <Ampera> you are one of them types of people then
57:15 <Ampera> I think
57:22 <alfbaz> Do you wanna be king, president or primeminister?
57:23 <Ampera> whatever people I am talking about
57:24 <Ampera> you are one
57:32 <rust_collector> aye
57:46 <rust_collector> I will be emperor
58:01 <Ampera> why not kaiser, or agustus
58:06 <Ampera> more classical name
58:14 <rust_collector> I am not that old
58:38 <alfbaz> but you will be :P
58:46 <rust_collector> we will see about that
58:50 <Ampera> no, it's like caliph, you're a successor to caesar or agustus
58:51 <alfbaz> lol
59:39 <alfbaz> kalisi
59:43 <rust_collector> I will also be the guy reading the scroll, at public stonings
59:54 <Ampera> will you also be stoned?
00:11 <rust_collector> that depends on if I say jehova or not
00:19 <alfbaz> public stonings? one cone many hoses?
00:19 <Ampera> why would you say that
00:41 <Ampera> public beratements are better than public stonings
00:53 <Ampera> if you stone someone, they die after a while
00:56 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ5YU_spBw0
00:57 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Monty Python - Stoning
01:04 <Ampera> if you berate someone, they have to live with the pain for years
01:20 <rust_collector> yes, and that will save us a lot, if they are scum
01:39 <Ampera> are you scum though?
01:48 <rust_collector> no, I am emperor
01:49 <alfbaz> It's hard work throwing stones
02:44 <Ampera> do it inside a glass house
02:49 <Ampera> so then at least it makes a funny sound
03:07 <Ampera> preferably not your glass house, so you don't break your own things
03:32 <rust_collector> I do like the idea of chaining moderate criminals somewhere in the square, so people can spit on them, and stuff.
03:45 <Ampera> sounds kinky
03:57 <alfbaz> ooh la la
04:14 <rust_collector> Oh, throwing rocks in a glass house is not a problem, you just have to have a big house, and sort of stay in the middle
04:29 <Ampera> what fun is that
04:33 <Ampera> if you're not breaking things
04:48 <rust_collector> I don't know? I never tried
05:04 <Ampera> breaking things is literally my full time job
05:43 <alfbaz> you're throwing stones at a person, breaking bones should satisfy your lust for breaking things:P
05:58 <Ampera> eh, maybe
06:02 <Ampera> depends on how loud they scream
06:25 <Ampera> can't spell sadism without sad
06:49 <rust_collector> eh, breaking bones is not an efficient way to make someone scream. there are better ways
07:08 <Ampera> like taxes
07:13 <Ampera> that's much better
07:24 <alfbaz> yup
23:43 * T3sl4 s'laughters Ampera
23:59 <Ampera> ssssssdsdssasdfhjn
12:00 <alfbaz> I feel like doing something technical... This dry wall installation is just not cutting it :c
21:25 <T3sl4> make a lowpoly dragon
23:11 <rust_collector> make a snow plow. that should be interesting
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36:55 <rust_collector> oreallynow?
41:32 <rust_collector> hmm, chilli coffee that could be a thing
44:20 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
44:34 <Ysjoelfir> chilli tea with milk an sugar? not sure how that would work
44:34 <rust_collector> yep, that is true
44:56 <rust_collector> uhm, no, that... eeeh. no idea
45:10 <alfbaz> hmm hey Ysjoelfir
45:18 <Ysjoelfir> hey alfbaz
45:34 <rust_collector> alfbaz is trying to think of reasons to not build a snow plow...
45:42 <alfbaz> lol at hmm, was there from something I was gonna type before :P
46:01 <Ysjoelfir> there are reasons not to build a snowplow?
46:14 <alfbaz> Doesn't snow around here is one reason I'm trying to work my way past
46:16 <rust_collector> No, but he is trying hard
46:55 <Ysjoelfir> it doesn't snow here as well. well, ok. it does, like, once a year for 5 minutes. but I still would build one if I would have the space, just because.
47:25 <Ysjoelfir> so. Is anybody interested in my report about the fancy earplugs - sleep edition, used for... well... sleeping?
47:47 <rust_collector> I bet it sucked, because you are here, and it is too early?
48:08 <alfbaz> If they cancel out hearing yourself breath, I'm in
48:32 <rust_collector> it goes in the ears, not your throat
49:56 <rust_collector> or were they so great, that you put 13 hours of sleep into 6?
50:23 <T3sl4> lol wow https://twitter.com/szeloof/status/1390037093926244353
50:29 <rust_collector> I will stay negative, until proven wrong, again
50:47 <Ysjoelfir> actually the complete opposite. I feel so very much more relaxed as I wasn't in a constant state of alarm the night because of our beloved highways.the "sleep" version cancels out a lot more than the regular version, everything sounds a slight bit muffled, but you still notice pretty much everything - just not in a bad way. The effect of those things is realy hard to describe. its like.... having a distorted, annoying sound and taking the
50:47 <Ysjoelfir> distortion from it, turning it into a nice sine that is still not a pleasant sound but not annoying anymore.
51:47 <rust_collector> great
51:54 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir 
52:34 <alfbaz> T3sl4 Yeah was looking at that before, a tweet a few below one of daves the bot posted
52:43 <Ysjoelfir> mornings T3sl4
52:48 <rust_collector> .....I can't wait.... in 3 weeks, we will have hyperactivelfir bouncing around here
53:14 <Ysjoelfir> and nice piezoelectric wood :P Was baffled by that once before as well, until I noticed that there is some ceramics in the scope probe
53:36 <rust_collector> it will be like when lemon and nothing discuss drugs, just coherent and stuff
54:15 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, nah, that'll happen next wednesday when I potentially get access to brain stimulating medication. which I am not realy looking forward to, actually.
54:24 <Ysjoelfir> lol :P
54:36 <rust_collector> oh, so are you getting it officially?
55:11 <Ysjoelfir> I dunno yet.
55:26 <rust_collector> or is it a "my cousin has them, and I can try for a week"
55:28 <alfbaz> Ysjoelflir give me the brain stimulating medicine, maybe it can help me build a snowplow :P
55:57 <rust_collector> alfbaz can you imagine a 2 foot thick layer of cocaine on the ground?
56:12 <rust_collector> just use that for your design
56:28 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/SXj4O.jpg
56:29 <alfbaz> So a huge credit card?
56:35 <alfbaz> lol
56:40 <Ysjoelfir> I could sell them pretty well here, alfbaz, but I am not sure if selling a medication that is basically amphetamin is something I would like to do :P
56:46 <Ysjoelfir> lol T3sl4
57:37 <rust_collector> someone has to do it, or it would be much more difficult to get hold of
57:59 <Ysjoelfir> and rust_collector, no, its more like a "I have this issue concentrating on shit and noticed some simmilarities between my behavior and stuff other people do which I know have some issues, so lets check that", and the specialized doctor woman answering with "oh, ooooh, yes, I see what you mean, lets do some tests"
58:23 <rust_collector> yeah, so it is a test and see what happens thing?
58:30 <alfbaz> I was on endome a few years back, It made me code heaps more
59:24 <rust_collector> I was on regular amphetamines some time ago, that helped me drive to italy and back. I am pretty sure it did not help me in other ways
00:40 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know if they will do a test it out thing, here in germanistan you have to be diagnosed with some things to get access to that stuff, as its highly regulated
00:58 <rust_collector> at that time, I did not use my brain, so I don't know if it made that better or worse.
01:19 <Ysjoelfir> some doctors do afaik, but I doubt that the this institute, which is tailored to testing for that, does the try and error approach^^
01:46 <Ysjoelfir> lol :P well, I heard that amphetamin is one of the more tame drugs, but I have no idea. I am not realy into drugs at all
02:15 <rust_collector> not me either, but I had to get back last week
02:26 <Ysjoelfir> :P
02:43 <rust_collector> eh, it was fun times, i would not do that again
02:56 <T3sl4> coincidentally, an old friend has been having more and more trouble uh, y'know existing, went to the psych the other day got a sample of somethingamine, and instantly felt clearer and more relaxed and focused than in years
03:36 <T3sl4> he's generally quite skeptical of these things, it was a bit of a surprise
04:42 <rust_collector> I have mixed feelings too, I think I would have gotten used to functioning with my issues by now, and if I am suddenly "fixed" would it really be better?
05:02 <rust_collector> not easy to say...
05:30 <T3sl4> https://img.ifunny.co/images/afb15e8619ec52394dbef15223b9d82016a59b926742c8c56add0cd7f6bec0b3_1.jpg
05:50 <Ysjoelfir> I tried using that stuff and noticed a simmilar effect. Though I would want to have that checked by a professional before I would go all in and get the stuff from whatever sources. (which would be cheaper than buying it in the drug store, interestingly...) And... I am as well very skeptical of these things. So you are allowed to be surprised :P
06:05 <Ysjoelfir> lol T3sl4 :D
06:40 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, that is the exact question I am fighting with since the analysis appointment 2 weeks ago.
08:34 <rust_collector> I am pretty sure I have my issues, especially since everyone I am related to seems to have something screwed up in their heads. oh well
08:53 <Ysjoelfir> aren't we all a bit strange? :)
09:06 <rust_collector> that is one part of it, I guess
12:24 <alfbaz> Can't recal the details but I've recently wacthed some interviews with a mob who's using xxamines in small doses to treat mental illnes. ppl being treated are having huge success it appears
21:45 <rust_collector> I wonder if I should make an usb power splitter sort of thing. I am running out of power banks for my stupid light things
22:04 <Ysjoelfir> do it :)
22:24 <rust_collector> mmh, and usb cables too, but I bet I can find plenty of those in...places
24:12 * Ysjoelfir watches rust_collector go to child #1, #2 and #3's bedrooms, stealing all the USB cables
24:17 <rust_collector> I think I want my bears to run off usb as well. It just seems like a better idea
24:29 * T3sl4 beats rust_collector with his jumper cables
24:56 <Ysjoelfir> I prefer doing stuff with some sort of mains powered energy source as well. I don't like batteries.
25:04 <rust_collector> T3sl4.... leave my nipple toys alone, ok?
25:46 <rust_collector> I am ok with running it off a proper battery, but all those little button cells are stupid
26:01 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/xAx0O it's actually an old reddit meme, but that too
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28:40 <Ysjoelfir> lol
29:50 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.ebay.de/itm/284261799375?epid=2687965&hash=item422f52d5cf:g:AHEAAOSw8K1geyl2 pfffffffffffffff.... come on, 23.40$ shipping to germanistan!?
29:52 <eevBot> [Title] - Mechwarrior 4: Söldner: Sybex offizielle Strategies & Secrets-gut | eBay
31:02 <rust_collector> it is only 21.39 for shipping to here...
31:36 <Ysjoelfir> oh wow! we should send it to you and you send it to me, for like.... 70€ :D
32:01 <rust_collector> but shipping from the state of united americas makes me ignore anything from there
32:13 <Ysjoelfir> pretty much, yes
33:33 <rust_collector> but even tiny no-weight crap from china does cost a bit in shipping now. i think something is happening in shipping world
34:16 <Ysjoelfir> I always enjoy reading in spam mails stuff like "The united Nation"..... simmilarely amusing as people abreviating the german term "Allgemeine Geschaeftsbedingungen" (general terms and conditions), which is plural already, with "AGBs". so that would make it... terms and condition..ses?
35:02 <Ysjoelfir> jep. and added to the shipping thing, germany announced that now everything from non europe has to pay import taxes. no idea how it was before, as thats basically what was happening for decades, but now its official I guess?
35:41 <rust_collector> how many of that game number 4 is there?
35:56 <rust_collector> same here
36:01 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=175920289
36:02 <eevBot> [Title] - Mechwarrior 4: Vengeance - PC Klassiker i original eske + alt vedlegg | FINN.no
36:22 <T3sl4> filthy conditionses! https://i.imgur.com/R4hux.gif
37:38 <Ysjoelfir> there are basicallt 5 parts of that game. Vengeance, which is the original game, then the first addon, black knight. after that they released a "stand alone addon" (I hate those.. just make it a regular addon and don't confuse everyone!) which was called MW4: mercenaries, and to that they added 2 more addons, the Inner Sphere mech pak and the clan mech pak, which were both also compatible to Vengeance and Black Knight.
37:54 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, T3sl4, thats basically how I react reading "AGBs" somewhere XD
43:46 <alfbaz> speaking of gemanistan, I was born there. Krefeld
44:16 <Ysjoelfir> ew, thats like... 20km+- from where I was born. how nasty :P
44:32 <rust_collector> I have probably been lost there some time
45:04 <T3sl4> yeah, sounds pretty miserable
48:11 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir what did you call your internet thing again, was it adsl2+ or vdsl2, or vdsl2+ or...
48:20 <Ysjoelfir> VDSL2+
48:33 <rust_collector> mmhf
52:50 <alfbaz> must of been shit there, soon as I was popped we left :)
54:24 <Ysjoelfir> lol
15:40 <alfbaz> well, that's 2 walls done. Need to go to hardware store get more screws and another bag of insulation
17:44 <rust_collector> I don't think vdsl2+ exists... all I see is a few things from australistan, and they probably just renamed something to make it sounds cool
22:28 <Ysjoelfir> XD
22:35 <Ysjoelfir> its the highest speed vectoring DSL
22:55 <rust_collector> whatever...
23:17 <rust_collector> and a regular vdsl2 would not work?
24:49 <Ysjoelfir> nope
35:35 <rust_collector> here is one, but I am 93% sure it is just not really it: https://ebay.to/3emKnjz
35:35 <eevBot> [Title] - Bitly
36:35 <Ysjoelfir> you are correct. thats a VDSL2 nonplus thing. :D
37:01 <Ysjoelfir> I could use a normal VDSL2 thing, but I would have to reduce my speed. which wouldn't be that big of an issue, but it would be more expensive than it is now for 2.5 times the speed
37:24 <rust_collector> I saw one, but it was american, and looked to be a 6u rack mount thing
37:33 <Ysjoelfir> thats a bit big
38:08 <rust_collector> the one you have was the draytek?
38:33 <Ysjoelfir> yep. vigor 165.
39:11 <K> hello peas
40:19 <Ysjoelfir> hi chick
42:30 <rust_collector> there are plenty of other draytek ones, with larger model numbers... but it seems like only they make them, lol
42:57 <Ysjoelfir> yep.... :D
43:16 <Ysjoelfir> well, and there are of course routers with built in modems. but that would be overkill as I have a router I want to use
44:11 <rust_collector> well, if a modem has a router, that is better than a router that has no modem (that works for you)
45:16 <Ysjoelfir> thats true. but if I would go that route I could always just use my old Fritz!Box and put that in front of the router
45:52 <rust_collector> what model is that one?
46:17 <Ysjoelfir> a 7590
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01:01 <rust_collector> the swiss neighbor is probably ultra-pregnant again. guy is asking if we have a pair of crutches
02:08 <Ysjoelfir> erm.. lol?
03:06 <rust_collector> well, they are in one of those sects who like to have as many kids as possible. and the previous one is at least a year old now
03:30 <Ysjoelfir> oh, I see, so its pretty much time for a new one
03:44 <rust_collector> yeah, I guess so
04:27 <rust_collector> the previous swiss neighbors, who used to live in the russians house, are also in that thing, and they are at number 12 now
09:22 <rust_collector> can I subscribe to me on youtube?
10:56 <Ysjoelfir> thats... interesting. seems to be a common theme for norwegian swissonians?
11:02 <Ysjoelfir> and no, you can't. I tried :D
11:18 <rust_collector> mmkay
11:20 <Ampera> morning
11:22 <rust_collector> and yes
11:28 <rust_collector> still morning, Ampera
11:39 <Ampera> sure
14:09 <rust_collector> ok, time for some classic retro stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dn0mBuyn5M
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15:45 <Ysjoelfir> XD
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19:06 <Halcyon> Heyyyyy alllll
19:12 <Halcyon> It's the weekend! Woot woot!
19:28 <rust_collector> all week
19:43 <Ysjoelfir> is it?
19:49 <Ysjoelfir> I have totally lost any sense for time
20:16 <rust_collector> that is because you have not made any transparent wood yet
20:43 <Ysjoelfir> and has someone opera installed and could tell me the default font settings? it seems like I have fuckered up there someday and somehow and now stuff looks weird.
20:51 <Ysjoelfir> oh damn, I should start that right now!
21:02 <Halcyon> Yeh Ill check
21:28 <Halcyon> Default font size is Medium
21:30 <rust_collector> ddddddidn't you have some older version of opera?
21:52 <Halcyon> Using 74.0.3911.160
21:56 <Halcyon> Probably not the latest
22:11 <rust_collector> but Ysjoelfir
22:25 <Ysjoelfir> and in the deeper font settings? font size, minimal size, standard font, bla, whatnot....
22:38 * Ampera happy-stabs Halcyon 
22:38 <Halcyon> 16
22:41 <Ysjoelfir> I had, but I acidentally clicked update once a while back
22:43 <Halcyon> Minimum is tiny
22:56 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
22:58 <Halcyon> *hugs*
23:11 <Ampera> I love you asshole
23:12 <Ampera> how are you doing
23:16 <Halcyon> Cheers dickhead :)
23:22 <Halcyon> Yeh not bad, how are you?
23:39 <Ampera> no longer in a world of suffering
23:45 <Ysjoelfir> complete to tiny, Halcyon? under the bar it says **size**: some random text. I have that on 13 right now.
24:01 <Ampera> I do not beggedly wish for a pleasant euthanasia for the moment
24:06 <Halcyon> 16
24:27 <Halcyon> Well that's good I guess Ampera
24:34 <Ampera> if you say 16 again, I get to remove one bone of my choosing, from your body
24:40 <Halcyon> Did anything particular put you in this mood?
24:54 <Ampera> wha?
24:58 <Ampera> yeah the second shot
25:02 <Halcyon> Ah nice
25:10 <Ampera> I told you yesterday
25:45 <Halcyon> That was yesterday
26:03 <Ampera> I forget, you have a five minute memory
26:19 <Halcyon> No, I just don't fill it with garbage
26:37 <Ampera> good to know you have such little regard for the status of my health
28:28 <Halcyon> Couldn't care less :P
28:35 <Halcyon> Nah, of course I care
28:39 <Halcyon> I'm just tired from this week
29:20 * Ampera commites sueicide, killing myself and blaming you in my will, leading to a lawsuit
29:34 <K> lolsuit
29:38 <Halcyon> Can I have your server?
29:58 <K> youll pay more in shiping
30:01 <Ampera> whichever one you want, sure, as long as you're willing to drop the grand or so it takes to ship it over there
30:31 <Halcyon> Just keep it powered and I'll remote in
30:32 <Halcyon> :P
31:02 <Ampera> Still waiting on components to build the PDU
31:17 <Ampera> my IEC cables were supposed to come today, but they didn't
31:55 <Halcyon> Rude
31:58 <Ysjoelfir> thanks Halcyon, now it looks normal again. looks like I had acidentally pushed the font size up a bit which made several websites "overflow" :D
33:43 <Ampera> now that I could probably handle it without spewing chunks, I think I should go make some pastrami and roast beef sandwiches
33:55 <Halcyon> Yummy
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39:18 <rust_collector> oh good, a twatter thing with no link. that is niiice
40:32 <Halcyon> Must have been a long twatter
40:47 <Halcyon> Or it is just a re-tweet?
40:52 <Halcyon> I have no idea how that shit works
41:11 <rust_collector> retweet, but it is pretty useless with no link
41:24 <Halcyon> I think that's the whole tweet
41:27 <Halcyon> What more do you want?
41:35 <rust_collector> retweet, or posted on russia today
41:38 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, what is the..... "ending" -lund indicating in norwegian? I have seen it on all sorts of names but I couldn't find out what (if) it means anything
43:00 <rust_collector> lund is like... uhm... yes, wth does that mean... it is often a clearing in the woods...I have to look it up, but where do you see that as an ending? it is mostly place names?
44:54 <Ysjoelfir> family- or placenames, yes. Just now it came to my mind when I read the name "Vegelund"
46:25 <rust_collector> hmm, it seems to mean random things, involving trees?
46:26 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieMyajkMEVo
46:27 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Macaw in the shower
46:37 <Ysjoelfir> I dunno, maybe? :D
48:55 <rust_collector> it is grove in engrish, it says
49:45 <Halcyon> Gorgeous bird Ampera
49:59 <Halcyon> A friend of mine has a couple of Macaws
49:59 <Ampera> that's the straightest thing you have ever said, Halcyon
50:17 <Halcyon> :P
51:39 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVGDoTEAun0
51:39 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: In a world where straight people talk like gay men
51:43 <Ysjoelfir> thanks rusty :)
52:51 <rust_collector> heh, not exactly much help there...
53:27 <Ysjoelfir> well, it helped my curiosity :)
53:42 <rust_collector> lunde means puffin, if that helps
54:05 * Ampera has retrieved the pastrami and roast beef
54:07 <Ampera> time for some sandwiches
54:08 <K> you puffin!
54:14 <Halcyon> I want pics of your meat Ampera
54:21 <Ampera> have you never seen pastrami before?
54:29 <Halcyon> Yes
54:35 <Halcyon> But I want to see YOUR meat
54:45 <rust_collector> yes I have never
55:00 * Ampera slathers Halcyon in mayo
55:17 <K> mmmmoist
55:30 <Halcyon> Ampera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4PeGlwp8_Q
55:31 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Cockatoo Says Hello After He Breaks Into House
57:06 <Ampera> how filthy do your wild cockatoos tend to be
57:12 <Ampera> like would you handle one if it let you
57:14 <Halcyon> What do you mean?
57:33 <Halcyon> Yeh absolutely. I've had wild cockatoos on my arm before
57:46 <Ampera> yeah, most people wouldn't do that with any birds here
57:50 <Ampera> it'd be like picking up a rat
57:56 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okWj9zR0XwE
57:57 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: FRIENDLY BIRD
58:06 <Halcyon> They look just like that. I don't know how they manage to stay so white and clean
58:15 <Halcyon> Awww cuuuute
58:23 <Halcyon> I love the little blue crest
58:34 <Ampera> it's a pretty fat bluejay
58:56 <Halcyon> Probably because it has worked out how to minipulate humans into giving it food
59:01 <Halcyon> "If I just sit here and look cute"
59:27 <Halcyon> There you go, wild cockatoos and 3D printed puzzles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5YyTHyaNpo
59:28 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Can Wild Parrots Solve Puzzles?
59:41 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ZB9_i9HtA
59:42 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: When a gull dines it eats small prey whole and a duckling is the right kind of animal prey to hunt 🦅
09:11 <Ysjoelfir> Fascinating, I just noticed that operas text rendering seems to be a bit blurry. never noticed that before, but after googling a bit that seems to be a known thing since 2017.
10:06 <Ysjoelfir> (at least 2017, the post I found was from that time.) great. now I have to switch browsers because I noticed that and I hate blur (except from wanted blur in photos). arrrrrrgh
11:05 <rust_collector> well, there is opera 12, or what it was... I think it still sort of works
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12:32 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/WriEV3.jpg top: Edge, bottom: Opera. same result in Vivaldi, which is based on opera AFAIK. strange somehow, as opera is using chromium now, isn't it? so edge and opera should be the same in that regard
13:08 <rust_collector> almost everything is chromium based now
13:45 <rust_collector> but... they can probably change quite a bit in that, even if it uses some common base
13:59 <Ysjoelfir> probably, I don't know much about programming stuff ^^
14:35 <rust_collector> not me either, but I know people do it
22:19 <steve30> My asterisk has crashed
22:58 <rust_collector> * * * * mine is fine
25:00 <Halcyon> Oh no steve
26:27 <steve30> not sure what its uptime was but it managed a few months
26:40 <rust_collector> what is that?
26:52 <Ampera> My PBX will have some random ass issue every so often, usually a red alarm.
27:08 <Ampera> probably because the wiring is as jank as it can get
28:48 <Halcyon> Red is the worst
29:23 <Ampera> It's because when I set up the phone wiring, I had only the shittiest quality anything to hook it together
29:26 <Ampera> it's amazing it works at all
37:35 <Halcyon> Ampera
37:41 <Halcyon> I understand America now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGo8yLofFHc
37:42 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Southern Hoe Cakes
38:35 <Halcyon> I'm not so sure she needs bacon grease
38:43 <Ampera> you'd never think sandwiches could cook
38:44 <Ampera> but there you are
39:02 <Ampera> also, bacon grease is the best
39:09 <Halcyon> Not saying it isn't
39:14 <Halcyon> I'm just saying SHE doesn't need any more
39:43 <Halcyon> She says "Mmmmkay" a lot
53:58 <Ampera> https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pull/835
54:01 <eevBot> [Title] - Basic telemetry for the Audacity by crsib · Pull Request #835 · audacity/audacity · GitHub
54:09 <Ampera> This is certainly something
57:56 <rust_collector> uuuh yes...it is...something
58:29 <Ampera> I don't use Audacity much, but I'll be keeping an eye on that, and jump ship if need be
00:24 <Halcyon> What is it?
00:46 <Ampera> That PR is for network telemetry to Google and Yandex to be put into Audacity
01:05 <Halcyon> Fark that shit
01:17 <Ampera> reading up, it looks like Audacity 3 has some serious concerning features
01:25 <Ampera> like project files now using sqlite, because why not
01:57 <steve30> audacity still takes ages to load on this machine :/
02:07 <Halcyon> I'll stick with my old version
02:29 <Ampera> the maintainers on archlinux seem to be refusing to update the package
02:54 <Halcyon> Good
04:22 <steve30> i need to go out
04:24 <steve30> back later
04:43 <Halcyon> Bye Steve
07:45 <rust_collector> Hmm, does anyone have a good way to make close to perfect circles in cloth?
08:20 <rust_collector> I mean, a sort of quick and easy way
08:46 <Halcyon> As in, cut circles?
09:03 <rust_collector> yes
09:12 <Halcyon> How thick is the cloth and how big circles?
10:04 <rust_collector> I am not sure how thick it would be yet, but the circles should be... 5.5 to 6"
10:40 <Halcyon> Use an upside-down dinner bowl or similar and a very sharp craft knife to go around it?
11:02 <rust_collector> if I go for used t shirts, I guess I could just use a knife on a compass, but for thicker things... yeah, that could work
11:38 <rust_collector> I will try that
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16:07 <alfbaz> hi all
16:11 <rust_collector> I guess, if they are not round enough, I can stick them together, put them in water, freeze the thing, and turn it
16:18 <rust_collector> hey-o
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17:12 <Halcyon> How was your sammich Ampera?
17:22 <Ampera> which one, the first one or the second one
17:29 <rust_collector> tastes like bread
17:45 <alfbaz> , with filling
17:53 <Halcyon> Mmmm filled bread
18:24 <alfbaz> I just had a pancake ;P
18:35 <Halcyon> With bacon?
18:37 <rust_collector> i remember one older guy, holding up the line at subway "forever" then says "I think there is too much bread" that was pretty fun to watch
18:47 <alfbaz> blue berries and honey
18:56 <Halcyon> alfbaz, aren't you in 'straya?
19:08 <alfbaz> last i looked
19:14 <Halcyon> Pancakes for dinner?
19:20 <alfbaz> twas desert
19:24 <Halcyon> Ahhh
19:28 <Halcyon> Fair enough
19:31 <Ampera> pancakes for dinner are great
19:37 <rust_collector> yep
19:38 <alfbaz> fish and salad for main
19:54 * Ysjoelfir just installed his/dads old subwoofer.
20:05 * Ysjoelfir feels like he missed out for quite some time on nice basses
20:05 <Ampera> anyone who gets all uptight about "breakfast foods" at other times of the day is a sad piece of shit
20:06 <Halcyon> No pancakes for me. I'm building lean muscle
20:29 <alfbaz> missus showed me how to make em, we're gonna need more buckweat :P
20:29 <Ampera> Halcyon, you make that sandwich cooking hoe cakes look like a supermodel
20:38 <Ampera> don't start talking about lean anything
20:41 <Halcyon> Ampera: I have the opposite problem, Mark has always insisted that toast sandwiches "aren't a breakfast food"
20:44 <Halcyon> Which is bullshit
20:57 <Ampera> I mean, you're all stupid, for I don't eat breakfast, lunch, nor dinner
21:07 <Ampera> I eat what I want, when I want it
21:17 <Halcyon> Evidently
21:44 <Halcyon> I guess, you want boobs, so it's one way of doing it :P
21:46 <Ampera> I'm gonna become so rich after I invent a device capable of stabbing people over the internet
21:53 <alfbaz> Ampera ends over here somehwere :P
23:33 <rust_collector> I vote for oatmeal. lots of it.
23:52 <Ampera> steel cut
24:33 <alfbaz> our dog loves plastic, he just found a 20mm PVC gland so he's set for the night
24:51 <rust_collector> hmm, i think mine is rolled flat. not sure if it is cut in any way
25:09 <Ampera> yeah that's rolled oats
25:14 <Ampera> if you can, try steel cut oats
25:20 <Ampera> it's way nicer than rolled
25:48 <alfbaz> I like mine cut with titanium
25:56 <rust_collector> well, I like it like that. but I might try that, if I see it some time
26:17 <rust_collector> but, it is good fuel
31:26 <alfbaz> behold my wall... https://imgur.com/PmWEETm
31:27 <eevBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
32:00 <Ampera> I am very confused as to what sort of room that is
32:13 <Ampera> I was about to say that's a cute garage, but now I'm not sure anymore
32:34 <alfbaz> its a room in a garage
33:19 <K> alfbaz is building the wall?
33:56 <alfbaz> yep, I'm trying to get the mexican's to pay for it :P
47:08 <Halcyon> What's the room for alfbaz ?
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50:12 <Lemon> hi frens
50:22 <Ampera> :D
50:24 * Ampera squeezes the Lemon 
50:28 * Halcyon throws some vodka and crushed ice at Lemon
51:28 <alfbaz> Halcyon It's going to be my new electronics lab
51:28 * rust_collector throws away the ice and Lemon 
51:53 <Halcyon> Hehehe
52:04 <Halcyon> Do you not use your garage for cars?
52:14 <Lemon> :>
52:20 <Ysjoelfir> whats a "garage"?
52:23 <Ampera> how are you doing Lemon
52:29 <rust_collector> only weirdos ave room for a car in the garage
52:39 <Ysjoelfir> I heard its the newest shit for everyone owning a house
52:44 <Lemon> ho im alright, today I decided (after using champix for 10 days) that I stop smoking
52:49 <Lemon> so far so good
52:59 <Ampera> nice
53:04 <Ampera> now if only we can get Halcyon to stop drinking so much
53:28 <alfbaz> Halcyon no I just finished building it specifically to be a workshop and lab. no cars allowed :P
53:30 <Lemon> and im a bit pissed because I wanted to pay some stuff in 4 months on amazon
53:34 <Lemon> but my card expires in 2m onths
53:34 <Halcyon> You know I don't drink that much?
53:40 <Lemon> and it needs to be at least 4
54:03 <Ampera> That's what my mom said, drunkedly, when she was divorcing my dad.
54:18 <Halcyon> I don't drunkenly say anything
54:26 <Halcyon> I don't let myself get to that point
54:34 <Ampera> well we're on IRC, so you drunkedly type everything
54:42 <Halcyon> Nah
54:51 <Halcyon> If it get tipsy, I usually just fall asleep
56:19 <Halcyon> Or play really gay music on Spotify
56:23 <Halcyon> Either or
56:38 <Ampera> eugh, spotify
56:49 <Halcyon> TIDAL then
56:55 <Ampera> who?
57:14 <Halcyon> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_(service)
57:15 <eevBot> [Title] - Tidal (service) - Wikipedia
57:31 <Ampera> somehow that looks even dumber
57:40 <Halcyon> The audio quality is better
57:43 <Halcyon> But the selection is smaller
58:15 <Ampera> I use YouTube Music, because I get it free with YouTube Premium. Really not any other reason
58:43 <Halcyon> Spotify has a wider selection compared to Google/Youtube
58:54 <Halcyon> But it depends what you listen to
59:04 <Ampera> YouTube Music has a pretty complete selection
59:18 <Ampera> I think the problem is it's only that complete in the US
59:18 <alfbaz> Does anybody buy albums anymore?
59:19 <rust_collector> yep. it really depends on what you listen to
59:35 <Halcyon> alfbaz, I copy/download them
59:35 <Ampera> alfbaz, I bought a few a little while ago
59:41 <Halcyon> Since it's still legal here in AU
59:55 <Ampera> how's that seed box going, btw, Halcyon?
00:16 <Halcyon> Dunno. havent logged in for a while. Haven't needed to download anything
00:23 <Ampera> haha
04:26 <alfbaz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcmR3nqnZBY&list=RDbVAgGtvjHB4&index=2
04:27 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: The B.P. Blues (Live (1986 The Baked Potato))
04:34 <alfbaz> random musac
07:29 <hsn> Lol
07:37 <Halcyon> Wow, that hair
07:51 <Halcyon> Actually not bad music though
07:51 <hsn> Handbrake thing https://www.instagram.com/reel/COc0rrTARU_/
08:21 <Ampera> can't see, instagram
08:29 <Ampera> use less dumb platforms
08:42 <alfbaz> it was 86 lol
09:09 <Halcyon> Ampera: Agreed
09:24 <Halcyon> Tiktok also makes that list
10:46 <alfbaz> and platform shoes
11:43 <rust_collector> HEY! without platform shoes, slade would be short...
12:08 <rust_collector> who knows what would have happened then
13:16 <alfbaz> what about Gene Simons?!?
13:26 <rust_collector> he can be short
13:36 <alfbaz> very
13:50 <rust_collector> I think he is a painted smurf
13:52 <Halcyon> I need to stop watching food videos on Youtube
14:29 <hsn> and then do what
14:42 <Halcyon> ....
14:51 <hsn> what else does youtube provide worth watching
15:00 <Halcyon> Nothing?
15:04 <Ampera> porn
15:07 <Halcyon> Everything else is on Odysee
15:24 <rust_collector> i fyou have time for that....
15:34 <Ampera> I don't watch anything but youtube
15:45 <hsn> Ampera, i think u dont watch anything
15:48 <Halcyon> Ampera, you aren't far off
16:00 <rust_collector> I tried odysee some times, but it tends to be very very slow
16:20 <Ampera> I have over 300 subscriptions on youtube
16:28 <Ampera> and yet I still run out of good things to watch
17:26 <Halcyon> If you're into peen and pants that leave very little to the imagination, I can recommend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jpCgHYqMng
17:27 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: 15 MIN STRETCH FOR SPLITS | Routine To Get Your Splits
17:37 <Ampera> no thanks
18:05 <Halcyon> Just saying
18:36 <Halcyon> I admire his definition though
19:58 <rust_collector> does he have a great camera?
20:08 <Halcyon> Yes. Yes he does.
20:15 <rust_collector> mmkay
20:26 <Ampera> I hate all of you
20:30 <Ampera> a lot
20:38 <Halcyon> Love you
20:41 <rust_collector> try harder Ampera
36:32 <Skaface82> if you like vintage electronics, I really like CuriousMarc
38:10 <Skaface82> Applied Science is good, i could go on but they are two standouts for me that people might not have subscribed to
38:26 <Halcyon> Both good suggestions
40:06 <Lemon> hoooo look at what I found !
40:07 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/1977097140.htm?ac=206978287
40:08 <eevBot> [Title] - leboncoin.fr
40:12 <Lemon> the same as I have, but with gpib !
40:17 <Lemon> and shit I paid 70 for mine lol
40:22 <Lemon> 20 I buy it directly
40:27 <Lemon> thats a steal
40:32 <rust_collector> do it
40:34 <rust_collector> now
41:02 <Ysjoelfir> yes! do it! and send me the other one!
41:30 <Lemon> look at themmmmm :P
41:40 <Lemon> dont you have the bigger brother ?
41:44 <Lemon> the 195 if im right ?
42:29 <Ysjoelfir> 199
43:50 <Lemon> very nice one :>
44:51 <Lemon> I really hope I'll get the hp powersupply
45:03 <Lemon> I dream of one like this, and 4 outputs at 50v, jesus
45:05 <Lemon> the perfection
47:26 <Lemon> I doubt it will sell under 200 anyway
47:33 <Lemon> im ready to spend up to 250 for it I think
47:42 <Lemon> I noticed its an agilent, not hp badged
47:43 <Ampera> that's what is the coolest thing about my HP server
47:46 <Ampera> 4 1200W PSU's
47:48 <Lemon> so a bit more recent
49:06 <Lemon> yeah thats a lot lol
49:17 <Lemon> when you know it will barely use half of one at full load I guess :>
49:22 <Lemon> well, depends on what you'll put in it
49:54 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir what kind of sub?
49:57 <Ampera> afaik it idles at around 500-600W
50:10 <Ampera> I don't know if that's at the plug or if that's at the 12V end
50:22 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector its a Canton aS22
50:27 <Ysjoelfir> *AS22
50:52 * hsn zaps Ysjoelfir with 12v
50:54 <rust_collector> hmmm, so...
50:58 <rust_collector> uhm
51:03 <rust_collector> https://bit.ly/3tAJWqt
51:03 <eevBot> [Title] - Bitly
51:18 <hsn> Yeah bitly is good title
51:33 <rust_collector> best muzak
51:41 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
03:25 <alfbaz> yes I listen to this whilst gardening
03:29 <alfbaz> at night
03:29 <rust_collector> If I don't remember too wrong, there is a bit low end in this one: https://bit.ly/3eo0uNU
03:30 <eevBot> [Title] - Bitly
04:09 <Ysjoelfir> This Video is unavailable in your country due to governmental restrictions.
04:20 <rust_collector> eeh, cool
05:37 <rust_collector> this one? https://bit.ly/2R0uiqY
05:38 <eevBot> [Title] - Bitly
05:39 <Ysjoelfir> yes. germany has (for a few weeks now) a (non governmental) organization censoring potentially harmfull internet content.
06:02 <Ysjoelfir> I still wonder how we can still be in a high rank in the worlds freedom ranking thing.
06:11 <Ysjoelfir> that one works
06:36 <Ysjoelfir> awwww nice, that has "some" bass
06:41 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, afaik media censorship isn't that new there
06:51 <Ampera> wolfenstein 3D was banned all the way in the 90's
06:52 <rust_collector> hah
07:26 <Ysjoelfir> weeeeeeeeeell..... thats not wrong, Ampera, especially in the gaming industry. but in videos and general internet its pretty new
07:33 <Ampera> the willingness by the government to censor things is probably one of the greatest reasons why I could never live there
07:44 <Ampera> maybe, decades from now, when I'm too old to give a shit anymore, it might be nice to retire there
19:11 <Lemon> ofc the keithley is already sold...
19:18 <Lemon> pfff im always missing super deals :(
19:28 <Ampera> don't be so sour, Lemon
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20:23 <Lemon> im really sad for that one
20:37 <Lemon> it was a hell of a deal, and I was looking for a cheaper gpib dmm
21:01 <Ampera> I just want today to be over
21:03 <Ampera> so bad
21:25 <rust_collector> https://bit.ly/3h8SvGn
21:26 <eevBot> [Title] - Bitly
21:46 <Ampera> looks like my IEC cables might be in today
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24:32 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/1926618197.htm?ac=206978287
24:34 <eevBot> [Title] - leboncoin.fr
24:38 <Lemon> there is also this, those models got gpib
24:44 <Ampera> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004WJM2V0/
24:45 <Lemon> if thats the case, it could be really nice
24:45 <eevBot> [Title] - Sorry! Something went wrong!
24:48 <Ampera> these are the cables I bought
24:51 <Ysjoelfir> melon!
25:08 <Ysjoelfir> I just checked if I have some GPIB capable multimeter I could give away cheap
26:02 <rust_collector> he didn't lol
26:04 <Lemon> ho yeah ?? which one it is ? :o
26:20 <Ysjoelfir> As rusty said: I have none.
26:26 <Ampera> but I find it funny the amazon reviews have people complaining that the plug on it is not a normal plug
26:36 <Ampera> even though it shows exactly what it is in the picture
26:38 <Ampera> and title
27:00 <Lemon> why you do this :(
27:12 <Ampera> who me?
27:23 <rust_collector> I just like peste noire
27:23 <Lemon> nahh
27:39 <Ysjoelfir> I just wanted to let you know that I care for you and lift my fat ass of my cozy chair just to check if I have something
27:52 <Lemon> ha alright sorry I understood it in another way lol
27:56 <Lemon> I appreciate it then !
28:05 <Ampera> fatty fatty 2x4 can't fit through the kitchen door
28:16 <Lemon> I thought you did the little "hey dude, I dont have what you are looking for for cheap" but I misread
28:26 <Lemon> apologies !
28:40 <Lemon> mannnn a 175 with gpib for 20 euros seriously
28:46 <Lemon> I watch multiple times per day this website
28:53 <Lemon> and yet I manage to miss that by a few hours
29:26 <Lemon> but the TTI supply look sinteresting tho
29:57 <rust_collector> it is very pretty
31:02 <Lemon> yeah and its in nice condition too
31:10 <Lemon> 70 with shipping, approx
31:30 <rust_collector> yeah, but to the wrong address
31:59 <Lemon> why
32:12 <rust_collector> it will be more to here
32:25 <Lemon> lol I knew it !
32:40 <rust_collector> nah, I just want to buy it, just to annoy you
32:58 <Ampera> it takes real dedication to spend money for the purpose of irritating your friends
33:02 <Lemon> :(
33:08 <Ampera> I salute you o7
33:41 <rust_collector> thank you o852
34:00 <Ysjoelfir> so... who can explain to me what the difference between </br>, <br> and <br /> is
34:25 <Ampera> I am no authority, but I've only ever seen </br>
34:29 <Ampera> er
34:33 <Ampera> hold on
35:05 <Ampera> yeah idk
35:07 <Ampera> look it up
35:25 <Ysjoelfir> I tried it, all three work the same.
35:34 <rust_collector> https://www.tutorialspoint.com/What-is-the-correct-way-of-using-br-br-or-br-in-HTML
35:34 <eevBot> [Title] - What is the correct way of using <br>, <br/>, or <br /> in HTML?
35:51 <Lemon> I cant find with certitude if this supply got gpib
35:51 <Ysjoelfir> nice
35:58 <Lemon> its a TTI PL320
36:52 <Lemon> ha seems not
36:52 <Ysjoelfir> so the right thing to do would be <br />
36:57 <Lemon> its only P versions
37:20 <Lemon> deceptions after deceptions today
37:31 <Lemon> im gonna slice myself
37:43 <rust_collector> no no
37:51 <rust_collector> dice pls
39:47 <rust_collector> hmm, I forgot about this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crz1PpKk3dU
39:48 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Молчат Дома - Этажи FULL ALBUM (Molchat Doma - Etazhi)
40:33 * Halcyon squeezes the Lemon
46:50 * Ampera squeezes the Halcyon 
46:52 <Ampera> you're up late
46:59 <Halcyon> It's the weekend
47:05 <Ampera> caffeine is slowly reconstituting me back into a human being
47:17 <Halcyon> In what form?
47:20 <Halcyon> You don't drink coffee
47:29 <Ampera> 100mg caffine capsules
47:35 <Halcyon> That'll do it
47:38 <Ampera> aye
47:44 <Ampera> I have a 500 count jar of them
48:18 <Halcyon> :P
48:23 <Ampera> Do you guys buy large bottles of pills?
48:28 <Halcyon> No
48:31 <Ampera> I know in parts of Europe it doesn't really happen
48:33 <Ampera> yeah, that's a damn shame
48:34 <Halcyon> I don't buy pills
48:39 <Ampera> wha
48:45 <Halcyon> What do I need pills for?
48:47 <Ampera> like not even paracetamol?
48:54 <Halcyon> I have *some*
48:57 <Ampera> casual headache, sore throat, general aches and pains?
49:04 <Halcyon> No idea if they are in-date anymore
49:16 <Halcyon> Yeh nah, hardly ever take that shit
49:36 <Ampera> I have about 500 doses of 500mg of paracetamol, 700 doses of 325mg of aspirin, 300 doses of 220mg of naproxen
49:51 <Ampera> it's great, you can get near lifetime supplies of medicine for almost nothing
49:53 <Halcyon> I have about 5 doses of Aspirin
50:17 <Halcyon> I also have a first aid kit. That's about it
50:45 <rust_collector> I have around a pound of ibuprofen, and duct tape
50:59 <Halcyon> Interesting combo
51:29 <Halcyon> I have more CO2 in fire extinguishers than I have medications
51:58 <Ampera> ibuprofen doesn't really work on me
52:05 <Ampera> neither does naproxen, but I use it when I can instead of aspirin
52:06 <rust_collector> it keeps the tendons from sticking, most of the time, and the tape keeps things inside when needed
52:27 <Ampera> aspirin isn't great to take all the time, but it's the only thing that works for inflammation all that well
52:56 <rust_collector> nothing is great to take all the time
53:09 <rust_collector> but... you do what you have to
53:26 <Ampera> what I do take all the time is heartburn medication
53:48 <rust_collector> yum, drywall
53:53 <Ampera> it's getting kinda nuts, I'm eating maybe four or five 1000mg calcium carbonate tablets a day
54:05 <Ampera> I got peppermint ones though, so it's not that bad since I like how they taste
54:17 <Ampera> thinking about it though, that might not be a great thing
54:48 <rust_collector> get the chilli powder coated ones
55:01 <Halcyon> Just drink milk?
55:31 <Ampera> wha?
55:33 <Ampera> milk is acidic
55:36 <Ampera> how would that help
55:40 <Halcyon> For calcium
55:56 <Ampera> I don't need calcium, I need a basic substance
56:08 <Ampera> I also have tablets with magnesium hydroxide in them that do similar things
56:10 <Halcyon> Oh, that's called food
56:20 <Ampera> most food is mildly acidic
56:26 <Halcyon> ?
56:32 <Ampera> most fruits and vegetables
56:36 <Halcyon> Oh you dont each vegetables
56:51 <Ampera> some baked goods might be slightly basic
56:57 <Ampera> but not enough to actually help
57:07 <Ampera> and I can't eat an entire loaf of bread whenever I have heartburn, which is all the time
58:00 <Halcyon> I think I had heartburn once
58:08 <Halcyon> Wasn't sure what it was.
58:56 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDfcyGh9aho
58:57 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Family Guy - Peter Gets Gas for the First Time
59:23 <Halcyon> Pretty much
59:58 <Halcyon> I was 34 when I had heartburn
00:10 <Halcyon> It could have also been stress, who knows.
01:25 <Ampera> My mom has constant heartburn too. She's on prevacid, but is on it for the rest of her life, since if she goes off it, her heartburn rebounds bad
01:39 <electrohead> o/
02:17 <Ampera> calcium carbonate is a fairly innocent medication, so I'd rather that than expensive, invasive surgery, or a reliance on a more serious drug
02:19 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
02:23 <Ampera> how are you are, electrohead?
02:37 * electrohead face hugs Ampera
02:43 <electrohead> better now :p
02:45 * Ampera doesn't vomit this time
02:46 <electrohead> lol
02:48 * Halcyon pounces on electrohead, gropes him, then throws coffee in his face
02:53 <electrohead> \o/
02:56 <Halcyon> :P
03:00 <electrohead> :P
03:02 <electrohead> hey
03:04 <electrohead> morning and stuff
03:06 <Halcyon> Hey matey
03:07 <Ampera> you people are fucked
03:14 <K> hey
03:15 <Halcyon> Don't hate coffee Ampera
03:21 <K> who are you calling people!?!!
03:24 <Halcyon> Hey K
03:27 <electrohead> eevBot: give coffee to K
03:28 * eevBot pours coffee down K's throat
03:34 <Ampera> not you, K, you're our favorite android
03:37 <K> coffee will be later tonight
03:53 <K> cant drink coffee when need to to small stuff
03:58 <Ampera> I remember being very upset when I was younger learning that, in the US at least, coffee cake doesn't actually contain coffee
04:21 <Halcyon> You Americans have no idea how to make coffee
04:42 <Ampera> wha?
04:45 <K> you americans!
04:46 * electrohead klonks Halcyon with his french press
04:47 <Ampera> of course we do
04:49 <Halcyon> Your "coffee" sucks
05:01 <Halcyon> electrohead, you're excluded
05:14 <Ampera> you pour pre-ground into the percolator, and run it maximum thrust on the largest burner you have
05:25 <Halcyon> Exhibit A
05:26 <Ampera> boil it until it stinks, and then serve it hot enough to melt the cup you drink it from
05:47 <electrohead> why thank you, Halcyon :p
05:47 <Halcyon> That is not coffee. That is rusty water.
05:48 <Ampera> though I never met him, I'm told that's how my great grandfather loved it
06:08 <Ampera> if his throat wasn't actually on fire, he wasn't enjoying his coffee
06:21 <Halcyon> Coffee should be smooth and a shot should have crema
06:58 <Ampera> We're capable of making decent coffee
07:04 <Ampera> the problem is most people don't care and are used to black sludge
07:13 <Ampera> though most people use drip machines instead of percolators
07:13 <Halcyon> Yep
07:15 <Ampera> so we're not that bad
07:31 <Halcyon> Drip is like the bare minimum before instant
07:45 <Ampera> I am for whatever really sensitive to the bitters/tannins in coffee, they make me horribly nauseous
07:57 <Halcyon> So do vegetables?
08:04 <Ampera> maybe nicer coffee wouldn't do it, but if I drink most coffee people I know make, I will be up all night
08:07 <Ampera> not in the same way
08:12 <Ampera> vegetables cause me to throw up right when I eat them
08:17 <Halcyon> Different nauseous ?
08:20 <Ampera> I can drink a cup of coffee and be fine until later in the day
08:21 <Halcyon> Ahh
08:34 <Ampera> I can eat as many vegetables as I want, and so long as I get them down, they cause no problems
08:47 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjOTNLFwZII
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