// #eevblog — 2021-09-01
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00:10:04 * Ampera hugs electrohead
00:10:11 * Ampera offers electrohead earl grey tea
00:11:58 <Ampera> I'm tempted to upgrade my iMac DAW, but I'm not sure if it'd be a waste of money or not
00:12:21 <Ampera> really I could go simple and upgrade the RAM and put an SSD in it, but I could also upgrade the CPU and GPU if I wanted
00:12:56 <Ampera> but for the money I spend on it, it might just be a better idea to buy a new DAW machine, or do nothing, since this machine works alright enough as my DAW
00:13:57 <electrohead> if you get a new machine, you should like, send me your old machine :p
00:15:12 <Ampera> electrohead, this mac really isn't worth the shipping
00:15:34 <Ampera> it's huge, it'd be a pain in the ass to ship, and at the end of the day it's a sandy bridge i5 with 4GB of RAM
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00:18:06 <Ampera> lol, electrohead, I brought my 8 string in to a shop to be setup and adjusted properly, and the guy wanted to know what tuning I planned on using, so he could set the intonation
00:18:18 <Ampera> it was at that point I had to explain to him the bizarre ass tuning I intend to play to
00:18:54 <Ampera> iirc, I can now safely describe it as E A D G C F A# D#
00:19:33 <Ampera> but I didn't remember those exact notes, and neglected to write them down since I didn't think he'd ask that, so me and my less than zero understanding of music theory had to explain to him how it was supposed to go
00:20:25 <Ampera> I guess he at least found it interesting, I don't suppose he'd have worked on too many 8 strings
00:20:47 <electrohead> yeah, a lot of shops don't really get 8 strings in, let alone work on them
00:21:09 <electrohead> I still need to find a decent place around here, that could potentially work on mine, if I don't have the time to work on it, myself
00:21:14 <Ampera> It's a shame, 8 strings are the perfect instrument, it's a bass and a guitar in one, but more integrated than a normal one
00:21:17 <electrohead> but then again, I always try to work on my own guitars
00:21:25 <electrohead> it's definitely not a bass, lol
00:21:36 <Ampera> I ordinarily would, but this one has pretty bad intonation problems I couldn't figure out
00:21:49 <Ampera> so instead of fucking it up, I decided to just let someone else do it
00:21:58 <electrohead> yeah, that's all about adjusting your bridge
00:22:00 <Ampera> I disagree, the bottom 4 strings of my tuning is identical to a bass
00:22:17 <Ampera> I did, I had it all the way up and back, and it was still too sharp
00:22:32 <electrohead> the tuning may be the same, but it's definitely different from a bass
00:22:36 <Ampera> if I had it lower I had insane string buzz, and my truss adjustments didn't help much
00:22:45 <Ampera> It's different, but it's still similar
00:23:06 <electrohead> speaking of though, I think there's a minor wiring/ground issue on my 8 string :/
00:23:11 <Ampera> I mean my main instrument for over a year has been a 6 string bass, and while it's a different sound, it's low enough that I'd consider it a bass
00:23:21 <electrohead> one of these days, I'll reverse engineer the wiring, document everything, then rip everything out
00:23:40 <Ampera> oh, this is something I've been wondering. I saw what was presumably a balanced microphone cable with a 2 sleeve 1/4" jack to XLR
00:23:48 <Ampera> and I was wondering if any guitars have ever been made with balanced outputs
00:24:07 <Ampera> and I'm wondering if my guitars might be like that, most guitars are, and I just never knew it
00:24:49 <electrohead> I know some Taylor guitars have a balanced pickup config
00:25:02 <Ampera> I mean that's basically the point of a humbucker
00:25:26 <Ampera> so it'd make sense to me, but even if it's just a straight balanced link from end to end for the sake of reducing cable noise...
00:25:51 <Ampera> actually, I wonder if that'd work, because I have an XLR mic that just wires the two pairs straight up. I thought there was some sort of phasing circuitry involved with that, but is that just on the recording end?
00:30:30 <rust_collector> maybe?
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03:09:23 <TheDude> gm
03:14:44 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/ocp10pfjcpk71.png
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03:48:28 * Ampera sculpts and develops T3sl4's back end
03:48:51 <T3sl4> gluten tag, Ampera
03:49:06 * Ampera bakes and breads T3sl4
03:49:25 * T3sl4 's anaconda wants all Ampera's buns
03:49:40 <Ampera> for fuck's snake
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06:35:59 <arch> is a 4.7 ohm NTC inrush resistor appropriate for a low wattage (10-20W) topswitch off-line design?
06:36:10 <arch> 4.7 ohm ntc in series with 1A fuse
06:36:18 <arch> and 10uF bulk cap
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06:58:35 <StupidLikeAFox> Bought a new ballast and lamps for my kitchen light on the way home, and ordered some serial cables + gnerder changers on amazon
06:59:17 <StupidLikeAFox> bought the kind that rolls over all the handshaking signals instead of just Tx/Rx
07:05:43 * arch pulls out T3sl4 nose hair with pliers
07:06:13 <T3sl4> huhwha
07:06:26 <T3sl4> arch: is that even big enough to draw inrush? or heat up an NTC?
07:06:39 <T3sl4> think they usually just go with a fusible resistor of that size..
07:06:51 <StupidLikeAFox> Still not entirely sure why the radio has a female port despite being wired as- w/e the 'computer' end is called
07:06:53 <arch> i dont have a fusible resistor unfortunately =(
07:06:59 <arch> need to order some
07:27:27 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/SxiWJLI.mp4
07:28:11 <StupidLikeAFox> I think I stuck a 10R 3W fusible resistor in my ionizer instead of a fuse proper
07:44:33 <Halcyon> Morning
07:51:48 * T3sl4 noogies Halcyon
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08:16:42 <steve30> hi
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09:06:08 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
09:23:24 <electrohead> o/
09:27:05 <Halcyon> Yooo
09:27:08 <electrohead> Yoooo
09:27:14 * electrohead offers foods
09:27:14 <Halcyon> Fuck I hate Windows 10
09:27:39 <Halcyon> Trying to run a 64-bit application that runs fine under Windows 7, now I get "This app can't run on your PC"
09:27:47 <Halcyon> No further detail, no error codes, nothing
09:38:30 * steve30 passes Halcyon some linux
09:40:04 <electrohead> at least it's not a 16 bit application, lol
09:47:33 <Erhard> Try the compatability mode, Halcyon: Right click on the app->Properties and check the settings under the Compatibility tab.
09:47:45 <Erhard> Might help.. Might not, though
09:48:33 * electrohead waves at Erhard
09:48:38 <Erhard> Hey
09:54:42 <StupidLikeAFox> How hard would it be to implement something that switches a speaker between two sources, with some kind of 'lockout'- so the source that activated first holds the speaker until it goes away?
09:54:54 <StupidLikeAFox> Doesn't need to switch terribly fast
09:56:48 <StupidLikeAFox> 8 ohm 15 watt speaker with both sides floating, either source also has both sides floating (though you can sense audio to ground through a blocking cap)
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10:02:04 <T3sl4> StupidLikeAFox: so, a noise gate/squelch i guess, into a latch? sure
10:03:09 <StupidLikeAFox> audio is coming from a pair of radios, barring any low level noise should arleady be squelched
10:03:22 <StupidLikeAFox> *already
10:03:23 <Erhard> Maybe a simple peak detector to see which source is active and then switch based on a comparator. The switch could be a relay or MOSFET or some such.
10:03:50 <Erhard> USe some feedback to get a latch effect
10:03:52 * Erhard shrugs
10:04:20 <StupidLikeAFox> trying to figure out how hard the elctronics to drive a relay would be, or if I'm just gonna stick a switch to the side of them
10:04:26 <Erhard> Or do it in a micro and it's just software ;-) I think it's more fun to do things analog
10:05:26 <Erhard> There are also IC with select lines to switch sources like that.
10:05:40 <Erhard> Not sure if they handle the power, though. Would likely be done at line level.
10:06:00 <StupidLikeAFox> I suspect the voltage/current is a bit much for a mux chip
10:06:25 <Erhard> Yeah, why I would do it at line level before the audio amp
10:06:51 <Erhard> But I get you are trying to hack something with your existing output.
10:08:18 <StupidLikeAFox> radio could be one of a few models, don't think any of them bring a squelched and volume adjusted signal to the acesory connector
10:08:20 <Erhard> https://www.ti.com/lit/an/slvae51a/slvae51a.pdf?ts=1630454884376&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fduckduckgo.com%252F
10:09:01 <Erhard> I guess that's for power supply input, but same idea
10:11:28 <StupidLikeAFox> was honestly mulling over just making a dumb switch box, and plugging the mic jacks and acc ports of both radios into it, then one mic and speaker for both
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10:12:14 <Erhard> Might work. These are newer radios that aren't going to freak if there is no output load?
10:12:43 <StupidLikeAFox> DPDT for the speaker, and a couple small ones to flop the mic lines + make sure the radio not in use has it's hook switch closed
10:13:12 <StupidLikeAFox> Yeah, they don't care if there's any load on the speaker, just as long as you don't ground out or short the speaker lines
10:14:10 <arch> sooo in this appnote, they use a topswitch, but the feedback is fed via resistor network. this is technically NOT an isolated design, correct? https://i.imgur.com/1vAObpD.png
10:14:29 <StupidLikeAFox> and as for the mic, the radio doesn't care what it's doing when the PTT isn't grounded
10:20:11 <Erhard> Yeah, I am a Radio Amateur too
10:21:28 <Erhard> bbl
10:21:33 <StupidLikeAFox> Erhard: motorola astro spectra + (for right now) either a maxtrac 300 or radius
10:21:58 <Erhard> Fun. I do mainly HF... OK. I'll be back later
10:25:07 <T3sl4> arch: no, 1mH is adequate isolation obv
10:25:39 <arch> is that sarcasm or for real lol
10:25:49 <T3sl4> hm, and 3.3uF
10:25:55 <T3sl4> since the other side isn't mH
10:26:31 <arch> i am making the schematic atm. for my first ever, off-line build, with a topswitch
10:26:53 <arch> all i really need to add is, overvoltage prot on the secondary side. dont care about primary side ov
10:26:56 <T3sl4> don't have to make it, they have those in the datasheets for free
10:26:59 <arch> right
10:27:02 <arch> im just copy pasting that
10:27:08 <arch> into kicad
10:27:51 <arch> hmm before i do that, let me google search for "kicad" and "schematic" and "topswitch"
10:27:58 <arch> dont need to waste time then
10:28:48 <arch> nope...7 results
10:28:54 <arch> guess ill have to copy paste after all
10:29:59 * T3sl4 copies some horse paste to arch
10:31:08 <arch> found a topswitch salvaged trafo with 4 windings. the turns ratio are as follows: 16.47 (primary 1, main), 3.03 (primary 2, bias), 2.14 (secondary 1, ~10V?), and 1 (secondary 2, 5V)
10:31:30 <arch> 1.65mH, 54uH, 27uH, and 5.9uH
10:32:20 <arch> testing it out on my inductor saturation tester, the primary (main) winding saturates at about 0.5A
10:33:42 <arch> the 5V is obviously for the 5V standby line, in atx psu; and the 10V winding is for the TL494
10:38:31 * DogWomble peers in
10:39:34 <arch> hmm, not sure the phasing of this trafo though. what's the easiest way to find the phasing for a salvaged flyback? i was just gonna tap it a buncha times and hook up a diode to the secondary and a cap, and see if the cap gets charged above my input
10:39:59 <arch> tap it with my lab psu output
10:40:29 <arch> yeaa, let me do that. that sounds pretty simple. it should work
10:40:43 * arch grabs some jumper wires
10:46:00 * jaymax opens his shirt
10:46:06 <arch> AYYY it works! T3sl4, i am a genius
10:46:22 <arch> if the phasing is wrong, the cap charges up, but REEAAAALY slow
10:46:40 <T3sl4> shrug
10:46:45 <T3sl4> easy to tell on scope
10:47:17 <arch> but this way is simpler, if you know for certain it's a flyback trafo, but you just dont know the phasing
10:50:40 <arch> it's a good thing i learned from my previous failure, where i had my flyback trafo in-phase, and the trafo burnt out
10:50:54 <arch> ahh..fun times
10:51:04 <arch> i think i learned more from my failures than my successes
10:52:58 <jaymax> But isn't that how learning works arch?
10:53:44 <jaymax> If something can be done at first go, was anything learned? Only practiced IMO.
10:53:46 <arch> somewhat. many people get discouraged when they accrue many failures, and just give up
10:58:48 <Ampera> learning is gay
10:59:31 <jaymax> well, happiness is a decent outcome of learning, sure.
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11:04:44 <jaymax> Ampera fun fact: IIRC it was the Cree first nation that (through a misunderstanding with settlers) gave Canada it's name - Kanata, loosely translated as "The Village". So, Canadians are "The Village People".
11:05:25 <Ampera> I like canadians
11:05:38 <Ampera> they are hilariously racist people
11:05:41 <jaymax> Sorry
11:05:46 <jaymax> LOL
11:06:43 <jaymax> I hear you there, though. Even in cities it's small-town mentality.
11:13:57 * flyback bites arch
11:14:21 * flyback hates canadians
11:19:42 <arch> well, canadians hate you too
11:19:55 * arch takes out a club to join the canadians
11:20:59 * jaymax checks calendar for seal hunt season
11:23:05 <flyback> BMCC
11:23:14 <flyback> bite my "canuck".............................canuck!
11:23:23 <flyback> eh?_hole!
11:23:28 * flyback headbutts jaymax
11:23:53 <flyback> wtf happen to nothing
11:23:58 <flyback> speaking of stupid canucks
11:24:06 <jaymax> You're just lucky my canoe is in the shop getting a birch refinsh.
11:25:15 <flyback> he's not dead is he?
11:27:15 <flyback> dude was on a pretty bad drug path
11:30:45 <jaymax> Hopefully he's stuck in the repair line at Best Buy again.
11:31:49 <jaymax> Silver lining, sadly.
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11:39:04 <T3sl4> jaymax: birches love being finished
11:39:43 <StupidLikeAFox> Fancy seeing you here, flyback
11:42:37 <jaymax> T3sl4 you know it, I'm all for that birch sap.
11:42:49 <Halcyon> T3sl4 you big birch
11:43:23 * Ampera kisses Halcyon
11:43:28 <StupidLikeAFox> I'm drinking birchbeer with gin in it, does that count?
11:43:29 <Halcyon> Aww :)
11:43:39 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
11:43:40 <Halcyon> How are you Ampera?
11:43:43 <Halcyon> Yeh doing OK
11:43:50 <Ampera> tired and insomniatic
11:44:03 <Halcyon> Standard
11:44:56 <Ampera> was playing TF2 and some woman on the server started taking video and called an admin because someone called her fat
11:45:06 <Ampera> so I think I'm not really at the right wavelength for that one right now
11:45:18 <Halcyon> Oh ffs
11:45:30 * T3sl4 currys Halcyon
11:45:33 <Ampera> we all know only gay australian men can be fat
11:45:37 <Halcyon> What the hell is with people being snowflakes these days
11:45:41 <Ampera> DogWomble, you stand accused
11:46:03 <DogWomble> i am guilty as charged
11:46:11 <Halcyon> I mean, I call you a cunt and you don't get all offended
11:46:13 <Halcyon> :P
11:46:14 <Ampera> you are sentenced to eternity in the buffet
11:46:19 <Ampera> you what
11:46:26 <Ampera> what the fuck did you just call me?
11:46:29 <Ampera> I can't believe you
11:46:32 <Halcyon> :P
11:46:33 <Ampera> I'm calling a channel admin right now
11:46:38 <Halcyon> Call the internet police
11:46:41 <Ampera> my dad works for austnet, he's gonna get you banned
11:46:45 <Halcyon> Bahahahaha
11:46:49 <Halcyon> Oh those were the days
11:47:03 <Halcyon> Or 'I'm going to nuke you and totally disconnect your connection'
11:47:06 * jaymax sends in the swats
11:47:19 <Ampera> I have your credit card number
11:47:19 <jaymax> to counter the twats
11:47:21 <Ampera> it has a 0 in it
11:47:22 <Ampera> hahaha
11:47:24 <Ampera> see I got it
11:47:32 <Halcyon> I don't have a credit card :P
11:47:33 <StupidLikeAFox> asl?
11:47:39 <Ampera> 2/2/2
11:47:40 <StupidLikeAFox> 17/f/cali :)
11:47:53 <DogWomble> yeah, i think if you're that sensitive, hanging around the lobby of most games and you'll have a bad time, there are a few games that are known for being frequented by fuckwit 12 year olds with nothing better to do than insult people
11:47:57 <jaymax> StupidLikeAFox no, Armenian isn't my second lang
11:48:14 <DogWomble> not much you can really do about it except avoid it if you don't like it
11:48:23 <Ampera> DogWomble, it'd make sense if they were 12
11:48:38 <jaymax> But I do have a unibrow
11:48:46 <Ampera> you got the person who called someone fat, the person who is defending the person who called someone fat, the person who won't shut up about defending the person who called someone fat
11:49:09 <Ampera> I have a unihole, just one big gaping turkey cavity where the horses come home
11:49:20 <Halcyon> I've been getting into Joey B Toonz's Youtube channel lately. I like him.
11:49:34 <jaymax> Halcyon same but Odysee
11:49:42 <Ampera> odysee is gay
11:49:43 <Halcyon> Oh he's on Odysee? Even better
11:49:49 <Ampera> dailymotion is the real counterculture
11:49:54 <jaymax> YT is hot trash for usability
11:50:05 <Ampera> works just fine for me
11:50:14 <Ampera> isn't odyssey P2P?
11:50:17 <jaymax> Takes 10 minutes to watch a 3 minute piece of content.
11:50:17 <Ampera> I've honestly never explored it
11:50:23 <DogWomble> you see, i don't necessarily get offended by people calling me fat - while there are reasons, i also accept that i probably am on the wrong side of 100 kilos and it probably isn't healthy anmd i may end up suffering the consequences later in life
11:50:24 <Halcyon> Odysee is LBRY
11:50:55 <DogWomble> that's at least why i'm trying to be a little bit healthier now, even if its not always working
11:51:07 * Ampera agrees with a mouthful of lemon hard candies
11:51:29 <Halcyon> I'm slowly transitioning over to Odysee from YT. I already watch Dave and Big Clive on there
11:51:49 <Ampera> I will probably use YouTube exclusively until the ship sinks
11:51:51 <Halcyon> Youtube is just becoming more trashy. Since they released their "shorts" feature, it's just a less retarded version of TikTok
11:52:04 <Ampera> sorts is a good format, it was done well on vine
11:52:10 <Ampera> tiktok is just chinese garbageware
11:52:15 <Ampera> *shorts
11:52:27 <Halcyon> I banned all the TikTok servers on my network
11:52:31 <Halcyon> I want nothing to do with that shit
11:52:32 <Ampera> nilered is a great example of how shorts can be done well to express intricate content in a small timeframe
11:52:37 <DogWomble> i'd rather dip my ballsack in sugar and nail it to a beehive than sign up for tiktok
11:52:47 <jaymax> I'm pleasantly surprised that Odysee has RSS feeds now (though there are character escape issues with gPodder). Youtube-DL worked there for ages as well.
11:53:09 <Halcyon> jaymax, I've noticed too the streaming is much smoother, I can't remember the last time I had buffering issues
11:53:16 <Ampera> is LBRY p2p?
11:53:28 <Halcyon> I guess?
11:53:30 <Ampera> because that's been the main reason I didn't want to look into it
11:53:34 <jaymax> Their metadata is, Ampera
11:53:41 <jaymax> blockchain stuffs
11:53:46 <Ampera> ugh, blockchain
11:53:48 <Halcyon> Yes, that
11:53:48 <DogWomble> although i am reminded of storyfire, which was created by someone in protest of some of youtube's policy, it didn't quite get as popular as they'd hoped because they very quickly learned that a new platform needs to be built on more than "boohoo youtube"
11:53:57 <T3sl4> mmm, this fresh chili on top is nice and piquant
11:54:06 <Halcyon> T3sl4, on your curry?
11:54:10 <Ampera> vessel is totally the hot new thing
11:54:17 * Ampera had vessel
11:54:17 <T3sl4> no, on your head
11:54:35 <Halcyon> I use chilli shampoo T3sl4
11:54:39 <T3sl4> huh
11:54:40 <Halcyon> Opposite to "no more tears"
11:54:45 <Ampera> I use garlic shampoo
11:54:48 <Ampera> keeps the vampires away
11:54:51 <jaymax> Yeah, it's gimmicky - but it caught on enough that censorship is a challenge that they are still avoiding, thankfully.
11:54:52 <Ampera> and people in general
11:54:56 <Halcyon> Keeps the boys away too Ampera
11:55:31 <Ampera> Halcyon, oh good, I was worried my fragile heterosexuality might be challenged
11:55:31 <Halcyon> What should I make for dinner tonight?
11:55:36 <Ampera> garlic
11:55:46 <Halcyon> Mmm roasted garlic
11:55:56 <Ampera> black garlic
11:56:02 <Halcyon> That's racist
11:56:10 <Ampera> I hate garlic people
11:56:13 <Halcyon> White garlic matters
11:56:21 <Ampera> nothing matters
11:56:30 <Ampera> we are already dead
11:56:36 <jaymax> Nothing\ matters
11:56:40 <Ampera> no he doesn't
11:56:40 <Halcyon> https://www.wspa.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/53/2016/08/labs_36103876_ver1.0.jpg?w=680
11:56:42 <Ampera> even he'd agree to that one
11:56:57 <T3sl4> woof.
11:57:03 <Ampera> isn't a white lab just a shitty golden retriever?
11:57:20 <Halcyon> Who cares? They are cute
11:57:26 <jaymax> Hair length, so no.
11:57:40 <Ampera> my hair is too short
11:57:48 <Halcyon> Since when?
11:57:54 <Ampera> since yes
11:58:00 <Ampera> my air conditioner is making a racket
11:58:07 <Halcyon> Tell it to shutup
11:58:07 <Ampera> it's trying to be an ice machine
11:58:27 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ3ncLCCeW0
11:58:28 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Drunk Mitten Squad VS Air Conditioner
11:58:29 <jaymax> take a guard-clippers to a golden retriever, you got an Old Yellar - bleach Yellar, than White Lab.
11:58:30 <StupidLikeAFox> dogs are basically obese delopmentally disabled cats
11:58:44 <StupidLikeAFox> prove me wrong
11:58:48 <Halcyon> Only smarter StupidLikeAFox
11:58:51 <Ampera> not possible
11:58:54 <Ampera> cats > dogs
11:58:56 <Ampera> rabbits > all
11:59:06 <Halcyon> Cats are fucking retarded
11:59:10 <Ampera> so are you
11:59:13 <Ampera> but I still talk to you
11:59:23 <Halcyon> Yeh and you're American, yet I still talk to you
11:59:28 <Halcyon> We're both not without our problems
11:59:39 <jaymax> Cats are too self-interested to be retarded.
12:00:11 <jaymax> Now dogs, they'll slobber and follow you around all day.
12:00:17 <Ampera> dogs are like canadians
12:00:23 <Ampera> cute, but you don't really want one as a pet
12:00:28 <Erhard> Dogs are way too much work. Cats are fun
12:00:31 <Halcyon> Cats are like the Karens of society, narcissistic and fucking annoying
12:00:41 <Ampera> Halcyon, you keep coming on with these self-owns man
12:00:45 <jaymax> I've get to find a girl like that Ampera
12:00:49 <Ampera> it's starting to become depressing
12:01:06 <Ampera> jaymax, cute, but would make a bad pet?
12:01:12 <Ampera> I've got at least 50% of that down
12:01:28 <Halcyon> self-owns
12:01:29 <Halcyon> ?
12:01:33 <Halcyon> Cellphones?
12:01:37 <DogWomble> i must admit i'm more of a cat person, that's aminly because i live in a place that's probably a bit too small for most dogs
12:01:47 <StupidLikeAFox> dog owners oft consufe obedience and intelligence
12:01:47 <jaymax> Shoot, I didn't see your second half.
12:01:58 <Halcyon> I'm mildly allergic to two things, bullshit and cats
12:01:59 <StupidLikeAFox> confuse too
12:02:08 <jaymax> I thought you were responding to my "they'll slobber and follow you around all day"
12:02:18 <Halcyon> I don't like slobber dogs
12:03:01 <Ampera> Halcyon, you are one though
12:03:13 <Halcyon> :P~~
12:03:33 <jaymax> <======3
12:03:46 <Ampera> 8=>
12:03:46 <Halcyon> Bit pointy isn't it?
12:03:52 <Ampera> er, no that's misleading
12:03:55 <Ampera> 8>
12:03:58 <Ampera> well
12:04:03 <Ampera> :)
12:05:58 <jaymax> Is this why it's called a "stump speech" - because they need to talk in lieu of other qualities?
12:06:16 <Halcyon> Hah
12:07:17 <StupidLikeAFox> jaymax: the nearby rural king has an employee like that :s
12:07:33 <Halcyon> What's Rural King?
12:08:36 <jaymax> I too, wonder what this Rural King thing is
12:08:40 <StupidLikeAFox> kinf of like a farm store- clothing, non-perishable foods, power euipment, sporting goods, animal husbandry
12:08:53 <jaymax> Oh, a CO-OP
12:08:53 <StupidLikeAFox> and tools
12:10:20 <StupidLikeAFox> you can buy a carb for your chainsaw, a rifle, a jar of cheese poofs, and drill in one stop!
12:10:51 <Halcyon> Sounds random
12:11:04 <jaymax> Snacks.... the homeland for Yeehawdists
12:11:34 <jaymax> Oh how the turns has tabled the decade after that.
12:12:09 <Halcyon> You can get just about everything there
12:12:16 <jaymax> Dongs?
12:12:23 <Halcyon> Possibly?
12:12:34 <jaymax> Send the TX dems then.
12:12:47 <jaymax> They need that Yallqaueda treatment
12:12:52 <Halcyon> https://www.ruralking.com/a-touch-of-country-magic-cinnamon-scented-pine-cone-bag-35022-00013-10
12:12:56 <EEVBot> [Title] - A Touch of Country Magic Cinnamon Scented Pine Cone Bag - 35022/00013-10
12:13:03 <Halcyon> Always wanted a bag of pinecones
12:13:09 <StupidLikeAFox> No booze, and the only refrigerated stuff is some vaccines etc for farm animals
12:14:21 <StupidLikeAFox> pre-pandemic they used to have free cheap watery coffee and grease+salt popcorn
12:14:33 <StupidLikeAFox> they were both terrible
12:14:49 <Halcyon> https://www.ruralking.com/farmers-select-24oz-cheese-balls
12:14:53 <EEVBot> [Title] - Farmers Select Cheese Balls, 24 oz.
12:14:53 <Halcyon> That's a big old bag of balls
12:14:59 <jaymax> grease+salt popcorn? Just needs the chicken
12:15:19 <Halcyon> "Made with premium cheddar or real premium cheddar cheese"
12:16:06 <StupidLikeAFox> seasonally, you can also buy 6 packs of chickens or ducks
12:17:49 <Halcyon> Anyway, I'm going to the shops
12:20:50 <T3sl4> schwetty balls
12:25:58 <DogWomble> if your balls feel cheesy, maybe it's time to get them checked put by a doctor
12:29:22 <T3sl4> that's all of wisconsin tho
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15:39:11 <Halcyon> I don't get it?
15:39:41 <Halcyon> What's the ranch for?
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17:41:59 <steve30> hi
17:52:54 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
17:58:48 <steve30> I'm popping up to Sheffield later. The local Extinction rebellion Drama group are doing a performance outside Barclays bank.
17:59:45 <Halcyon> Extinction Rebellion? They are still around?
17:59:59 <steve30> yup
18:00:03 <Halcyon> Oh
18:00:10 <Halcyon> How sad for them. Don't they have anything better to do?
18:00:11 <steve30> they've been up to plenty of shenanigans in London this last fortnight
18:00:21 <Halcyon> Must be bored
18:16:07 * DogWomble peers in
18:17:22 <steve30> Halcyon, this happened at the pride protest i went to on Saturday. Unfortunately because my bus was late I missed this particular bit.
18:17:22 <steve30> https://lesbianandgaynews.com/2021/08/debbie-hayton-transsexuals-need-to-make-it-clear-that-angry-mobs-on-the-streets-or-on-social-media-do-not-act-in-our-name-what-happened-in-manchester-was-despicable-and/
18:17:24 <EEVBot> [Title] - Debbie Hayton: “Transsexuals need to make it clear that angry mobs – on the streets or on social media – do not act in our name. What happened in Manchester was despicable, and we condemn it absolutely.” - Lesbian and Gay News
18:18:30 <Halcyon> I don't understand all these protests in the UK? What the hell is going on over there?
18:18:34 <Halcyon> If it's not this, it's that.
18:19:29 <K> hello toasters
18:19:44 <steve30> Manchester Pride Ltd is an organisation that profiteers from people's sexuality/genderidentity. The protest I attended was against that.
18:20:28 <Halcyon> Hello jaffle
18:20:28 <EEVBot> Hello, Halcyon!
18:20:31 <steve30> However, there were a lot of pro-trans people there and this gay man apparently turned up wearing a tshirt from a gays-only organisation, which the pro-trans people didn't like
18:20:41 <Halcyon> So?
18:20:57 <Halcyon> Fucking let people like what they like. Let people hate what they hate.
18:20:59 <DogWomble> Can we get an Amityville Toaster reference?
18:21:04 <Halcyon> People need to get the hell over shit
18:21:09 <steve30> Because Diversity/Inclusion.
18:21:16 <Halcyon> He wasn't harming anyone?
18:21:22 <steve30> exactly
18:21:31 <Halcyon> So who gives a fuck?
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18:21:55 <Halcyon> I've met people before who don't like me purely because I'm gay. Do I care? Nope.
18:22:03 <Halcyon> That's their problem.
18:22:07 <steve30> You can have a trans-only organisation, that's fine, but gay-mens-only/lesbian-only organisations are unacceptable in today's society because its 'transphobic'.
18:22:25 <Halcyon> Yehhh.... no. They can get fucked.
18:22:54 <K> the fuckers.
18:22:54 <DogWomble> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KyRCQp32p8
18:23:09 <Halcyon> People are such busy bodies these days.
18:23:28 <Halcyon> If only they put half the effort into improving themselves, the world would be a better place.
18:24:18 <steve30> So basically now a lot of gays consider transgender-activism to be "Homophobia 2.0"
18:25:26 <Halcyon> People can get fucked
18:27:17 <steve30> I used to go to an LGBT community group, but got a bit bored of it when it was mostly just transgender people.
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18:44:03 <Halcyon> Anyone around to do some audio testing?
18:45:51 <DogWomble> IUf anyone wants to listn to me a nd haclyon talk shit again for an audio test - https://listenweb.geekjabber.com/
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18:59:07 <K> might join after my meeting is over
19:05:01 <Halcyon> What time is that K ?
19:05:10 <K> 30 mins i hope
19:05:19 <K> maybe less now
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19:46:27 <K> is the stream over?
19:46:50 <Halcyon> We started watching Computer Chronicles
19:46:58 <Halcyon> Did you want to listen in to some nonsense?
19:47:16 <DogWomble> surewi think we can do that :)
19:47:34 <K> i might as well for a bit
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19:48:25 <K> i am
19:48:35 <K> sausage
19:51:41 <K> some strange limiting is happening with dogwomble
19:52:15 <K> yea like agc kicking in
19:52:21 <K> it is quite annoying tbh
19:52:36 <K> agc is kicking in randomly
19:53:07 <K> its that or either DogWomble moves to and from microphone like 30mph
19:53:26 <K> yeah, might be noise filtering going bad too
19:54:15 <K> it is a bit ye
19:55:19 <K> it reckon it would be hard to detect by gaphs/meters
19:56:09 <Halcyon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881101725224804384/882388887169814588/20210901_081620.jpg
19:56:20 <K> yea
19:57:15 <K> kinda limits options for hardware, but looks nice yea
19:57:40 <K> ah.
19:57:55 <K> you could record shoutcast for a bit and review later
19:58:01 <K> it is better now yews
19:58:33 <K> but Halcyon sounds better still
19:59:08 <K> haha
19:59:48 <K> umm, as i remember this was not a problem previously, but i might be wrong
20:00:43 <K> yea, compressor could do that
20:02:23 <K> no now it is fine
20:02:26 <K> both of you
20:03:27 <K> haa
20:03:55 <K> oh god pls no
20:04:07 <K> dough?
20:04:11 <K> or dong?
20:05:30 <K> gf figured out how to make very nice italian bread with holes in it
20:06:37 <K> yeah
20:08:50 <K> bread + butter + salt + some fresh tomato slices
20:09:00 <K> damn im hungry suddenly
20:10:00 <K> at work yea
20:10:19 <K> Latvia
20:10:29 <K> nope, im not hsn
20:11:18 <K> eh, not that bad
20:13:31 <K> chances are you will save up quite much
20:14:46 <K> it will take some time before they lift the restrictions
20:15:44 <K> ah ok
20:17:09 <K> btw is there a discord channel i can join? i am on the GeekJabber server, but cant seem to find the channel for this, if there is one?
20:43:50 <jaymax> there's a discord server called GeekJabber? That's just misusing all the established terminology.
20:45:28 <K> Stright to Jail! No trial!
20:47:30 <jaymax> ALL HAIL XMPP
20:49:39 <Ampera> I almost thought you said XAMPP and got a heart attack
20:51:38 <Halcyon> jaymax, yeh want to join the discussion?
20:52:06 <jaymax> I don't discord Halcyon - heresy
20:52:14 <Halcyon> Awww
20:52:39 <Ampera> who was talking with K
20:52:46 <Ampera> because I never got any of their messages
20:52:48 <Halcyon> DogWomble and I
20:52:51 <Ampera> wtf
20:52:52 <Halcyon> In voice
20:52:55 <Ampera> oh
20:52:58 <Halcyon> He was listening
20:52:58 <Ampera> you faggots
20:53:40 <Halcyon> Join us Ampera
20:53:43 <Halcyon> You dickhead
20:53:46 <DogWomble> https://discord.gg/vddnVRvu3Z if you want to join us Ampera
20:53:57 <Ampera> ewww, I only use TS2
20:53:59 <Ampera> weirdos
20:54:15 <K> Mumble or bust
20:54:46 <Ampera> busts are nice
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23:16:04 <Lord_of_nothing_> Hey
23:16:09 <Ampera> no
23:16:09 <Lord_of_nothing_> How does everyone feel?
23:16:28 <Ampera> I feel like I want to injure a small animal.
23:16:34 <Ampera> you look like a promising target
23:24:47 <K> torturing animals is not a good sign
23:24:57 <Ampera> I said injure, not torture
23:25:00 <Ampera> I'd kill it immediately after
23:26:05 <K> would you eat it?
23:26:47 <Ampera> yeah I'd eat Lord_of_nothing_ why not
23:26:52 <Ampera> don't kill unless you plan to eat it
23:28:57 <K> then it is borderline acceptable
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23:48:14 <Lord_of_nothing_> with all my medicine i am not good for human comsumtion
23:49:20 <Ampera> neither are most farmed animals, but that doesn't stop anyone
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