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00:01:52 <Ysjoelfir> does it eventually move in the wrong direction, hitting the zero stop?
00:05:25 <Ysjoelfir> if so, switch the leads
00:06:08 <Lemonizer> no its not moving past zero
00:06:17 <Lemonizer> I know it can go lower, mecanically
00:06:38 <Ysjoelfir> ok
00:13:20 <Ampera> I've gotten the weechat relay for Android working
00:13:33 <Ampera> Among the clients I've used it seems to be the best option
00:14:28 <Ampera> The only pisser is I can't use ed25519 keys for ssh, and I wasn't able to get RSA ones to work either
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03:04:38 <Lemonizer> why people dont use their fucking handbrakes
03:04:44 <Lemonizer> ive told my mother a hundred times about that
03:04:51 <Lemonizer> right now, I get out of the car
03:04:57 <Lemonizer> with bottles in hand
03:05:07 <Lemonizer> fucking car moving downhill, nice
03:05:23 <Lemonizer> gladly I was fast enough to stop it from wrecking my own car
03:05:41 <Lemonizer> 'ho the frist gear must have slipped'
03:13:43 <Ampera> Lemonizer, here's it's because we have mostly automatic cars
03:13:56 <Ampera> which do have handbreaks, but normally suffice with the parking "gear"
03:19:42 <Lemonizer> yeah I can understand that, but here its mostly the opposite
03:19:49 <Lemonizer> automatics are rare
03:19:49 <Ampera> which is a shame
03:19:57 <Ampera> wish we had less automatics and more manuals
03:20:38 <Lemonizer> manual is surely fun but I wouldnt spit on an auto, I liked my old mercos
03:20:48 <Lemonizer> so comfy
03:20:59 <Lemonizer> now I have to deal with a shitty gearbox that cracks
03:21:03 <Ampera> My car is auto, but a column shifted auto
03:21:11 <Lemonizer> you have to shove that 3rd gear you know ?
03:21:26 <Lemonizer> like, punch the autoradio
03:21:43 <Lemonizer> makes people laugh but thats tiring :>
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03:29:53 <Ysjoelfir> hi all
03:32:10 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir, how are you doing
03:37:11 <Ysjoelfir> fine, thanks :) you?
03:37:18 <Ampera> Alright, at work
03:37:22 <Ampera> excited to be done with it
03:37:35 <Ampera> I get out in +5:23
03:38:16 <Ysjoelfir> yikes. thats late here ^^
03:38:39 <Ampera> My new phone comes today
03:38:45 <Ampera> and tomorrow I'm going to get service for it
03:38:53 <Ysjoelfir> meh, mine is broken
03:39:00 <Ampera> 50$/mo for 25GB unlimited and then unlimited EDGE
03:39:05 <Ampera> along with unlimited talk/text
03:39:27 <Ysjoelfir> is that cheap?
03:39:41 <Ampera> insanely
03:40:03 <Ampera> for 10$/mo more there's a 60GB plan, after which they do something
03:40:08 <Ampera> what? I don't know
03:40:11 <Ampera> they evaluate you
03:40:23 <Ysjoelfir> ok. i pay 10 per month, but for less gb
03:40:54 <Ysjoelfir> around 24,5 less to be precise
03:41:46 <Ampera> 24,500,000 bytes less or 24.500.000 bytes less
03:42:04 <Ysjoelfir> . in us terms
03:42:18 <Ysjoelfir> i have 500 mb
03:43:22 <Ampera> I'm messing with you
03:44:23 <Ysjoelfir> shame on you^^
03:47:18 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir and feeds him sosig
03:47:38 <Ysjoelfir> yay :)
03:55:35 <K> sosag
04:02:51 <Lemonizer> damn, I pay 15 euros per months for 60gb + unlimited edge after that, call/msg/mms here and in europe unlimited too
04:03:28 <Ampera> Lemonizer, cell service is retardedly expensive here
04:03:32 <Ampera> which is why I'm only getting into it now
04:03:39 <Lemonizer> I see that !!
04:03:52 <Lemonizer> we have some 2 euros plan, for unlimited text/call but few internet
04:04:02 <Ysjoelfir> oh :) how about i pay you that prr month and youregister for me?
04:04:43 * Ysjoelfir made impromptu micarta and nearly dies
04:04:55 <Lemonizer> the problem will probably be internet, idk if its the same in germany or not
04:05:04 <Lemonizer> I know I can call in europe, maybe theres exceptions etc
04:05:52 <K> there shouldn't be ant
04:05:53 <K> any
04:10:54 <Lemonizer> I like those general radio gear
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04:16:19 <Lemon> those 20nf + 0.05% GR standards are still accurate ?
04:16:29 <Lemon> I don't know the usual accuracy of capacitor standards
04:18:06 <Lemon> idk if they are expensive because they are collectibles or because they are actually still that good
04:24:04 <Lemon> https://www.youzeanmall.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=671772
04:24:08 <Lemon> isnt that a bit cheap ?
04:24:17 <Lemon> I keep seeing those at 300-500+
04:24:40 <Lemon> https://www.youzeanmall.com/gr-genrad-general-radio-1404b-100pf-standard-reference-capacitor-1404b-p-671756.htm
04:24:42 <Lemon> yeah ok '
04:24:46 <Lemon> 85 cents :>
04:26:14 <Lemon> https://www.youzeanmall.com/fluke-437ii-3ph-power-quality-analyzer-kit-newsealed-free-shipping-to-us-p-671799.htm what is this website
04:27:10 <coppice_> excellent value. I'll take 10
04:27:21 <Lemon> seriously why that price ?
04:27:23 <Lemon> I dont get i
04:28:23 <coppice_> full 3 year warranty too :)
04:29:10 <Lemon> theres no much infos on the net, if its a scam or not
04:29:15 <Lemon> I mean, what do they earn by that ?
04:29:26 <Lemon> some items are decently priced
04:34:47 <coppice_> if you want to scam people you need to offer an exceptionally attract deal. a stupid one will only work with very stupid people, and they don't buy power analysers
04:34:56 <Lemon> it takes decription for items on ebay
04:35:06 <Lemon> yeah and please 85 cents
04:35:09 <Lemon> or 4 dollars
04:35:46 <coppice_> dunno how much that particular model is worth, but it must be at least $5k
04:36:07 <coppice_> maybe they got the decimal point 3 places off :)
04:36:25 <Lemon> nah theres many other items much cheaper that are on ebay
04:36:32 <Lemon> thats one big scammy website I think
04:45:24 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hewlett-Packard-HP-1631D-Logic-Analyzer-w-10272A-State-Timing-Probe-Pods-0-4/382860845952?epid=1104045214&hash=item592448e380:g:t4gAAOSwtwVcZVMZ are those good as today's standards ?
04:45:31 <Lemon> compared to a 100 bucks chinese one
04:48:26 <coppice_> I can't imagine why anyone would pay $171 for one of those as an instrument. As a museum piece one in nice condition might be worth that
04:49:18 <coppice_> it doesn't seem to have the pods, which would make it quite a liability
04:49:30 <coppice_> the lead pods
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05:11:46 <Ampera> hi ThunderSqueak, how are you
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06:03:02 <rust_collector> hello, e-vblarggh
06:03:21 <Lemon> aye
06:03:25 <Ampera> hi rust_collector
06:03:28 <Ampera> how are you doing
06:03:39 <rust_collector> I am doing suoer awesome!
06:03:55 <rust_collector> That means very ok
06:05:31 <rust_collector> is anyone else doing sort of ok?
06:05:56 <Lemon> im doing alrighty
06:06:06 <Lemon> heading germany tommorow hopefully
06:06:30 <Ysjoelfir> hi :)
06:06:36 <rust_collector> heil heil
06:06:55 <Ysjoelfir> that fits! been working on the nazi radio until now.
06:07:20 <rust_collector> sehr ok
06:07:33 <Ysjoelfir> it's ok as fuck!
06:07:38 <Ysjoelfir> or: OK AF!
06:08:00 <Ysjoelfir> like this song which is also OK AF! www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhUAaGds2_w
06:08:01 <rust_collector> in what way did you molest its inner pieces today, dr mangle?
06:08:34 <Ysjoelfir> lemon, you might want to consider driving past Mainhattan on your way back. I could prepare a box of goodies if you want. but you must not.
06:08:48 <Ysjoelfir> I will write it down in the EEVBlog thread rusty :) give me some time
06:10:51 <rust_collector> mm, it is friday
06:11:53 <Ampera> sehr gu^..t
06:12:47 <Ampera> My phone got delivered
06:12:51 <Ampera> sadly I'm nowhere near it
06:16:30 <rust_collector> I wonder why I really like cold water on my feet
06:18:29 <Ampera> rust_collector, why does anyone like anything
06:18:32 <Ampera> just do
06:19:19 <rust_collector> you are not wrong
06:19:56 <Ampera> I'm always not wrong, for I am always yes right
06:20:30 <Lemon> hey Ysjoelfir, do you have an email or some place we can talk ?
06:20:40 <Lemon> I dont have a registered nick here
06:20:42 <Lemon> it might not work
06:23:23 <rust_collector> he has a telex machine...
06:25:02 <Lemon> I think im registered now
06:25:18 <Ampera> Lemon, if you need someone to test with
06:28:26 <Lemon> it works I think :>
06:28:34 <Ampera> aye
06:58:03 <Ysjoelfir> so, done. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/restauration-of-dke38-deutscher-kleinempfanger-1938-world-war-2-radio/new/#new
06:58:14 <Ysjoelfir> now some food and then I can answer the lemon :)
06:58:14 <rust_collector> meh, too late
07:02:35 <rust_collector> I think that radio will be much more happy now
07:03:24 <Lemon> pretty neat :>
07:04:12 <Ampera> eevblog time
07:04:12 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 07:04 Sydney time.
07:04:39 <rust_collector> ooof
07:04:53 <rust_collector> that is too early
07:05:07 <rust_collector> or late
07:05:14 <Ampera> you stole what I was going to say
07:05:16 <Ampera> you know
07:05:20 <Ampera> I'll kill you for that
07:05:23 <rust_collector> ok
07:05:24 <Ampera> I'LL KILL YOU
07:05:34 <Ampera> agh fuck it
07:06:08 <rust_collector> it is not like anyone cares anyway, it will be fine
07:06:10 <Ysjoelfir> SILENCE!
07:06:14 * Ampera farts
07:06:16 <Ysjoelfir> I KILL YOU!
07:06:22 <Ampera> Please do
07:06:25 <Ampera> saves me from having to do it myself
07:06:42 <Ysjoelfir> I won't support your lazyness^^
07:06:54 <Ampera> then at least support my suicidal tendencies
07:07:00 <Ampera> right then I aven't got all day
07:07:13 <Ysjoelfir> nah. life can be great :)
07:07:20 <Ampera> [citation needed]
07:07:41 <Ysjoelfir> also we need to have an EEVBlog IRC meeting sometime, and what would that be without you and EEVBot?
07:07:56 <rust_collector> we are not starving africans, who are super happy, just because
07:08:44 <rust_collector> don't ruin a perfectly good depression
07:09:27 <Ampera> yeah, rust_collector's got it
07:09:35 <Ampera> and what do you mean about an IRC meeting
07:09:41 <Ampera> oh, in real life?
07:09:42 <Ampera> lol
07:10:16 <Ampera> if dave cracks his head on the pavement and decides to have some sort of convention I'll tag along, and take eevbot with me
07:11:57 <rust_collector> maybe we have to kidnap him? we cal leave a trail of those weird melf resistors he likes so much, and.. something
07:12:03 <Ysjoelfir> exactly, like in real life. so, with outside world and stuff^^
07:12:38 <Ysjoelfir> thats a good idea with the MILFs. just add some keysight scopes every now and then and boom, you got a dave
07:14:06 <rust_collector> I like the idea of some guy crawling around, picking up tiny resistors
07:15:34 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, have you seen a snap on van?
07:16:01 <Ysjoelfir> a snap of who?
07:16:18 <rust_collector> they sell tools. from a van
07:16:37 <rust_collector> maybe paint up a van like a keysight van
07:16:49 <Ysjoelfir> aaah, those!
07:17:05 <rust_collector> then we wouldnt need the big bag and rope
07:17:14 <Lemon> damn long time I havent heard of those
07:17:18 <Ysjoelfir> true :D
07:20:02 <rust_collector> I wonder what kind of pizza I will make tomorrow...
07:20:15 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir are you getting my messages or am I doing monologue ? :>
07:20:22 <Lemon> a*
07:20:36 <Ysjoelfir> I got some, and I also answered?
07:20:50 <Ysjoelfir> oh wait
07:20:53 <Lemon> ayee I got not a single answer im afraid
07:20:57 <Ysjoelfir> it sais I am not registered, wtf?
07:21:02 <Ysjoelfir> ah
07:21:04 <Lemon> :o
07:21:12 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, yeah you need to register your nick to PM on austnet
07:21:13 <Ysjoelfir> I remember a message that chanop was broken... wait
07:21:13 <Ampera> it sucks
07:21:16 <Lemon> this time I am ! x)
07:21:17 <Ampera> and I have no clue how to disable it
07:21:35 <Ampera> direct complaints squarely at damian or another austnetop
07:21:51 <Ysjoelfir> I actually AM registered and usually the client should automatically identify me. hm.
07:21:59 <Ysjoelfir> well, then manually.
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07:22:18 <Ysjoelfir> so. lets try that again
07:23:07 <Ampera> oh yeah austnet has no automatic auth either
07:23:22 <Ampera> unless you do automatic commands, but it will still boot you off whenever nickop dies.
07:23:41 <Ampera> which is why I end up having to reset EEVBlog whenever he becomes EEVBlog1
07:24:08 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I used an automated script. the Adiirc client can handle that luckily^^
07:24:56 <Ampera> Welp I think i've figured out how long my headphones last on battery
07:25:01 <Ampera> about 32 hours of playback
07:25:08 <Ampera> which is absolutely incredible
07:25:17 <Ysjoelfir> that is pretty nice :)
07:25:26 <rust_collector> just a regular car battery?
07:25:35 <Ysjoelfir> but: my headphones have cables. they work forever :D
07:26:19 <Ampera> rust_collector, no? It's a liion battery
07:26:20 <Ampera> or lipo
07:26:37 <rust_collector> yeah, you can have that now
07:31:16 <Lemon> I want to build a bigass usb bank
07:31:26 <Lemon> I have like, 70- 80 18650 cells
07:31:37 <rust_collector> mmm, whyyyyy?
07:31:51 <Lemon> well I buildt an ebike battery out of 52 that I quickly replaced by lipos
07:32:06 <Lemon> and I salvaged a few from laptop batteries and only kept good ones
07:32:28 <rust_collector> grab a pack from your local tesla dealer?
07:33:13 <rust_collector> I mean, shopping center parking lot
07:33:15 <rust_collector> or
07:33:20 <rust_collector> something like that
07:34:21 <coppice_> Lemon: saving up for a whole car?
07:35:05 <rust_collector> a 2cv would probably run well enough with an old forklift motor...
07:35:58 <Ysjoelfir> I like 2cvs :)
07:36:09 <rust_collector> or, I guess it would run like it did stock, if you replaced the engine with a cordless drill
07:36:29 <Ysjoelfir> that seems apropriate^^
07:37:00 <rust_collector> They are pretty intersting
07:37:29 <rust_collector> very strange construction
07:38:05 <Ysjoelfir> I havent looked into one yet.
07:38:39 <rust_collector> they did change them a tiny bit, in the "later" years, but not much
07:39:27 <rust_collector> later in this case is probably early 70s
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09:35:10 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: HELP: I'm looking for a quality supplier of 600mm or 1200mm LED panel ceiling lights. MUST be true 5000K-5500K and high CRI ( like >90%). Seems very hard to find, lots of crap out there.
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10:13:24 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: LBRY: LBRY is going privacy-first🥇 An update on privacy and more from LBRY CEO @jeremykauffman🧔🏻 https://t.co/hg8K3dLw80 Plus: some updates about channel discovery and the new #favoritefive reward 🌟
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11:02:58 <DHess_US> https://imgur.com/gallery/ZUG5cis
11:06:58 <DogWomble> aah the old curiosity show i beliueve
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11:48:01 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Catching up with @jamesharriman from Altium https://t.co/PA8XAphRRj
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12:46:21 <Halcyon> DogWomble, you rang?
12:46:44 <DogWomble> i think i may have done a misdial when i ptu the phone down :P
12:46:49 <Halcyon> Heh
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12:58:16 <steve30> hi Halcyon
12:58:25 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
12:58:47 <steve30> I should probably go to bed, but I need a cuddly boy to help me relax
12:58:56 <Halcyon> Nawww
12:59:01 <Halcyon> I got my hair cut this morning :)
12:59:02 * steve30 has been in a rather cuddly mood lately
12:59:07 <steve30> How was it?
12:59:11 <Halcyon> Nice
12:59:52 <steve30> Did you get your twink massage?
13:00:00 <Halcyon> Hahaha yes
13:00:05 <steve30> :D
13:00:18 <Halcyon> I love having my head massaged, I could fall alseep
13:00:20 <Halcyon> asleep
13:06:45 <steve30> I'm off to bed
13:06:46 <steve30> good night :)
13:06:49 <Halcyon> Sweet dreams
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13:46:20 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
13:46:24 <Ampera> how do fren
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14:02:46 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
14:02:48 <Halcyon> Not too bad you?
14:02:54 <Ampera> alright, I got my new phone
14:03:01 <Halcyon> Oh yay
14:03:26 <Ampera> works quite well, only thing I'm not fond of is the lack of an SD card slot
14:03:47 <Halcyon> Oh poo
14:03:58 <Ampera> whatever, it has 64GB of storage, which is fine enough for me
14:04:01 <Ampera> it was a hundred bucks, I can't complain
14:05:01 <Halcyon> Exactly
14:07:09 <Halcyon> I'm considering having a nap
14:07:17 <Ampera> wish I could join you
14:07:19 <Ampera> <3
14:07:22 <Halcyon> Aww :)
14:07:40 <Halcyon> Alternatively I could just have a coffee and wake up
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17:51:25 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Need to escape the horrible human reality of twitter occasionally? Follow @jamesharriman 's @sydneybirdbath channel.
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18:13:34 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I know the twitter peeps have analyed it before, but I'm convinced there is a hidden code here... https://t.co/ieXuIlCo7A
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20:34:07 <Ysjoelfir> hi all
20:37:52 <T3sl4> o/
20:40:09 <Ysjoelfir> how are you t3sl4?
20:40:22 <T3sl4> chillin, you?
20:43:17 <Ysjoelfir> im ok. cleaning up the flat since lemon wants to drive by tomorrow to pick even more stuff up. and working on the radio again
20:45:00 <T3sl4> cool
20:47:41 <Ysjoelfir> yeah. but im irritatet about a part of the circuit
20:48:04 <T3sl4> stick one of those resistors in it
20:48:07 <T3sl4> oh wait ;)
20:48:54 <Ysjoelfir> lol
20:49:11 <Ysjoelfir> i already dream off those fucking things
20:49:42 <Ysjoelfir> but, head of dev. decided that we finally stop investigating and just order custom ones to spec.
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22:28:33 <Lord_of_nothing> Hi guys
22:28:34 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)
22:29:29 <Lord_of_nothing> does the irc chat show me ip adress?
22:34:07 <gremlinz> your ip address is hidden to non-opers
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22:56:47 <rust_collector> mourning
23:02:03 <rust_collector> I wonder what name this storm has.
23:10:19 <steve30> hi
23:12:17 <rust_collector> hey mr steve
23:12:34 <coppice_> storm Daniels?
23:33:49 <T3sl4> Storm Lldaniels, it's Spanish
23:34:29 * steve30 needs more coffee
23:52:22 <rust_collector> does anyone know if (and how) I can figure out if windows 10 has been installed on a machine?
23:55:17 <Ampera> rust_collector, with what level of access to it
23:55:49 <rust_collector> it has windows 7 on it, or I can use whatever live os?
23:55:50 <EEVBlog> T3sl4! A friend for you to play with! His name is, rust_collector!
23:56:03 <Ampera> rust_collector, as in a previous install?
23:56:08 * T3sl4 slaps EEVBlog
23:56:32 <Ampera> I have no clue what triggered that
23:56:37 <Ampera> let me look at the payloads again
23:56:54 <rust_collector> yes, ie if it can be upgraded for free, and without installing 10, just to find it does not work
23:57:16 <Ampera> uh
23:57:53 <Ampera> https://www.lifewire.com/get-windows-10-free-upgrade-for-assistive-technology-users-4771825
23:58:30 <Ampera> It's gone, but not gone, just semi-officially gone
23:58:39 <Ampera> but you can still (last I knew) upgrade to Windows 10 from 7
23:58:51 <Ampera> after which you can upgrade from Windows 10 to Linux >:D
23:59:04 <rust_collector> yeah,, sadly it is not my machine.
23:59:14 <Ampera> good lord netbeans is a crock of shit
23:59:38 <Ampera> I need to figure out how to use a real java toolchain
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