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38:37 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: There is a worldwide community of people who actually have no idea they have a large fellowship. They now have a label - Electronic Component Preppers.
39:29 <rust_collector> HELLO!!! is this thing working?
39:30 <EEVBlog> Hello there, rust_collector!
39:36 <rust_collector> ok, it works
40:03 <Lemonizer> heh
40:06 <rust_collector> EEVBlog smurf!
40:14 <Lemonizer> well I think its been a good hour or so for my supply to be on
40:17 <Lemonizer> I must say its quite stable
40:30 <rust_collector> EEVBlog shampoo
40:35 <Lemonizer> theres maybe 0.1mv up and down now
40:55 <rust_collector> EEVBlog my little pony
41:11 <rust_collector> that should be ok?
41:24 <rust_collector> ok to run leds off
41:42 <Lemonizer> ho yeh its really good
41:47 <Lemonizer> I just wanted to know how stable it is
41:48 * steve30 pokes EEVBlog 
42:19 <rust_collector> EEVBlog*
42:51 <rust_collector> EEVBlog annoy!
43:28 <Lemonizer> bobby dazzler
43:48 <rust_collector> why do you bring sports people into this?
46:25 <Lemonizer> heh
46:33 <Lemonizer> pffrrt I want mah wavetek !
46:53 <rust_collector> so do I, but that does not help
47:18 <rust_collector> but right now, I just want a -5v regulator
47:40 <Ampera> mmm, meeting in 13 minutes, but I'm still eating pretzl
51:00 <rust_collector> it is about time you start to come late to meetings
54:02 <Ampera> nah I'm about to get up and go, because I'd otherwise be waiting for other shit to do stuff
58:39 <hsn93> lol the picture < https://www.aecl.com/en/about-aec/manufacturing/
59:17 <rust_collector> I bet they are esd safe
03:09 <coppice_> "What special clothing to you have to wear in the clean room?" "None"
04:04 <hsn93> last picture << https://www.aecl.com/en/about-aec/capabilities/
05:26 <Ysjoelfir> are those special clean room tested... erm... how do you call those head cloths in english?
05:35 <Ysjoelfir> and the lab coats look cozy :)
07:23 <hsn93> head cloths?
07:57 <hsn93> hood ?
08:31 <coppice_> they probably need to wear special headdresses in the clean room. Their normal ones would shed too many fibres, and might not be ESD asfe
08:55 <Ysjoelfir> those black headwear the women in muslim countries are wearing :) I would assume those shed many fibers while walking?
09:01 <hsn93> https://www.google.com/search?q=burqa&client=firefox-b-d&hl=en&sxsrf=ACYBGNRug9pIc4MUEleI-O4tZQN6349i0A:1581948493676&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijz5Kw4djnAhU8RhUIHSk4AgcQ_AUoAXoECBEQAw&biw=1920&bih=944
09:37 <hsn93> google search : burqa
09:54 <Ysjoelfir> but isn't that the whole dress?
10:31 <hsn93> burqa -> is the one showing only the eyes
10:40 <hsn93> abaya -> the whole dress
11:18 <hsn93> hijab -> hair cover but not neccessary hiding face
12:01 <Ysjoelfir> aaaah. ok. thanks :) so are those special hijab...s? I wonder if they make such a thing, specially designed for clean room use :)
12:22 <rust_collector> probably?
12:30 <hsn93> idk but these people are paying xD
13:14 <hsn93> i would think they paid someone to set up the place.. then they wanted women in place if he paid attention he might suggested to them and they paid
13:20 <coppice_> The Keysight factories probably look like that
13:48 <hsn93> cause i can see this is government project and they really pay for this stuff .. tech hunger ..
16:24 <Ysjoelfir> it's so interesting to see different cultures doing the same work in different ways. here you would see mostly male people working in hightech factories like that, all completely crammed into "protection gear" (for the room, not for the person), wearing hair and face masks, tight lab coats, on-time-shoe slipper things,....
16:43 <rust_collector> no, government does not pay. they just give someone your money
17:13 <Ysjoelfir> over there in the pics I saw mostly women in more or less comfortable clothes. :D
18:46 <hsn93> rust_collector, giving someone "money" is paying.. despite who's money is that :P ?
18:46 <rust_collector> I guess the "saudi male dress" must be pretty nice on both warm sunny days we have here
19:32 <rust_collector> And I have no idea what it is called
19:51 <hsn93> ثوب
19:57 <hsn93> Thawb
19:58 <rust_collector> Okeh
20:20 <coppice_> rust_collector: in saudi a lot of the money comes from the oil industry, rather than the public
21:06 <hsn93> who owns the oil ?
21:12 <rust_collector> Oh, I thought they were printed... Oh, no they quit that step too now. Now they just say it exists
21:41 <coppice_> hsn93: the people with the most weapons
21:55 <hsn93> xD
22:32 <hsn93> which is government
23:25 <hsn93> http://www.aascl.com/sagittarius.html
23:29 <coppice_> not really in saudi. its a bunch of people called Saud
24:03 <coppice_> Saudi Arabia is basically a family business
24:33 <hsn93> yeah but they call the whole country with their name ,, they own everything ..
24:50 <hsn93> so for us usually governemnt = royal family
27:41 <rust_collector> I wish we could have that here. because the king is pretty cool, and I think we would all have sailboat lessons in school, and free ice cream
29:53 <Ysjoelfir> I hope that would never happen here. Nothing would happen. ever. again. well, ok, we would be tought how to not do anything, basically, how to be switzerland, without being switzerland, and with much more taxes. and a little bit of ass kissing for the americans.
30:22 <Ampera> everywhere should just be like america
30:24 <Ampera> guns and tits
30:39 <Ysjoelfir> I thought tits are very strongly forbidden!
30:53 <hsn93> trump is the king
31:00 <rust_collector> no, you just can not have nipples
31:12 <Ampera> nipples, tits, huge penises
31:15 <Ampera> who cares
31:37 <Ysjoelfir> but beware of normal sized penises!
31:49 <rust_collector> yep, those are the scary ones
32:32 <hsn93> some one told me about (horror / comedy) movie about a penis moving and killing people ... i tried million searches to find it
32:34 <hsn93> couldnt
34:02 <Ysjoelfir> I assume it is for the best that you didnt succeed xD
34:43 <rust_collector> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0988043/
34:50 <rust_collector> so, now what?
35:02 <coppice_> It shouldn't be hard to find a moving penis that's really killing it on the web
35:07 <Ampera> I wish I would get killed by a giant penis
35:34 <Ysjoelfir> I wouldn't oO
35:40 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like a nasty death
35:54 <Ampera> exactly you wimp
38:57 <hsn93> yeah i also assume that xD
41:08 <hsn93> rust_collector, i dont know if this is the one but how u end up with it .. https://snipboard.io/cAI8mi.jpg
41:59 <rust_collector> heh, ok
42:32 <rust_collector> well, both of those are from after I quit watching movies. I know nothing
43:20 <hsn93> im suppose to work not to discuss penis movies xD
43:35 <hsn93> i've to go
43:38 <hsn93> cya guys
44:43 <Ysjoelfir> those are the words from a man whose boss stand behind him for the past 20 minutes without being noticed
46:36 <hsn93> nah, he is watching his phone
46:53 <rust_collector> ah, remote desktop, sneaky
47:04 <rust_collector> hi mr boss
48:41 <rust_collector> Ok, I found a -15volt regulator. that is not ideal, but i found 2 packs of noodles, which will do ok
49:08 <hsn93> dude, the guy calls (compiled) software (password protected)
50:36 <hsn93> and sometimes talk about (antiviruses) for (microcontrollers)
50:43 <rust_collector> say hi from me. I can help him got rid of cookies and other good stuff, just ship them up here
51:33 <rust_collector> I guess that alcohol hand cleaner would work for that?
51:36 <hsn93> what is this dave's tweet about (Electronic Component Preppers) i dont get it ?
52:05 <rust_collector> Probably people like Lemonizer
57:56 <Lemonizer> what did I do
58:16 <rust_collector> you buy all the things
58:52 <Ysjoelfir> https://i.imgflip.com/2dz9w5.jpg
58:53 <rust_collector> juust wait until you get the 1/4watt resistor fetish, and have to get all of them
59:14 <Lemonizer> id prefer some 0.001% ones
59:15 <Ysjoelfir> E96 is only a theoretical limit!
01:37 <Ysjoelfir> oh, so you're up for the E196608 Series of Resistors?
03:55 <steve30> I like to have a good supply of spar components. I don't think I overdo it though
03:58 <steve30> *spare
06:51 <Ysjoelfir> same here. I have 2 of those drawer cabinets, one for resistors and one for caps (sorted of course), one cabinet for various semiconductors, sorted in N/P channel high voltage/high current/small signal, NPN/PNP small/medium/high power, diodes (zener, shottky, fast, standard, germanium) and some more for specific IC categories like timers, MCUs, OpAmps (some categories), references,...
07:01 <Ysjoelfir> and one cabinet for mechanical stuff. thats basically it
07:21 <Lemonizer> I need opamps to learn about them
07:25 <Lemonizer> I dont have any I think
08:05 <rust_collector> I vote for single or dual opamps.
08:47 <Ysjoelfir> admittedly I discarded (yes, as in throw them away) a whole cabinet of logic ICs two years ago. I just never used them and probably will never do so. MCUs can do that in way smaller packages...
09:04 <Lemonizer> :(((
09:22 <Ysjoelfir> I asked for months on the local websites. nobody was interested :(
09:36 <Lemonizer> now im there if you want to throw stuff !
09:42 <Lemonizer> well, electronical stuff
10:58 <rust_collector> like carbon impregnated bricks, very high resistance, no presicion, but pretty tough
15:12 <Lemonizer> https://www.leboncoin.fr/equipements_industriels/1743465544.htm/
15:19 <Lemonizer> idk how are those, he states 0.2%
16:12 <rust_collector> well, it says so on them, if they still are????
16:25 <Lemonizer> that would be 60 euros for 0.1 to 100k
16:30 <Ysjoelfir> for 10€ for all? If I would need more, I would take them
16:35 <Lemonizer> but I think he dont want to send them
16:37 <Lemonizer> no 10 a piece
17:11 <rust_collector> how far away is grenoble?
17:22 <Lemonizer> like, a few hours
17:26 <Lemonizer> not worth it to drive there
17:57 <rust_collector> how about his other thingie?
18:18 <Lemonizer> https://www.leboncoin.fr/equipements_industriels/1743455362.htm/
18:20 <rust_collector> those look like super fancy egg timers
18:21 <Lemonizer> he sells those too
18:45 <Lemonizer> capacitor boxes 2.5% accuracy
19:51 <Lemonizer> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1727346263.htm/
19:54 <Lemonizer> another one sells the same kind
21:43 <Lemonizer> yeah idk anyway
21:57 <Lemonizer> I think Id prefer to build it, with known good resistors
22:02 <Lemonizer> what if they drifted a lot ?
22:02 <coppice_> The important thing about old decade boxes is just how much they have decayed?
22:15 <Lemonizer> yes
22:18 <Lemonizer> exactly
22:41 <Lemonizer> so its been a few hours im monitoring my lab supply
22:45 <Lemonizer> ive set it to 10v
22:46 <Ysjoelfir> for 10 a piece I wouldn't take that risk. as coppice said, they could very well have drifted or been overloaded or what not
22:57 <Lemonizer> yeah lets forget it
23:00 <Lemonizer> so for the supply
23:11 <Lemonizer> its pretty stable once warm, it moves maybe by 0.1mv or 2
23:24 <Lemonizer> but sometimes, it moves by 2 mv and stays there
23:33 <Lemonizer> then stable by 0.1mv or so during a good hour
23:39 <Lemonizer> I wonder why
23:42 <Ysjoelfir> how much moves your mains at the same time?
23:46 <Ysjoelfir> or your room temp?
23:52 <Lemonizer> room temp doesnt move
23:59 <Ysjoelfir> you sure?
23:59 <Lemonizer> the main thats pretty hard to tell
24:02 <Lemonizer> yeah im sure
24:09 <Lemonizer> if it moves its no more than 1-2 degrees
24:17 <Ysjoelfir> thats pretty much :D
24:23 <Lemonizer> enough for that you think ?
24:34 <Ysjoelfir> if our calibration room would move 2degrees we would be out of spec....
24:34 <Lemonizer> I thought it could make it move by the uV range no more
24:45 <Lemonizer> yeah but not in the 0.1mv area no ?
24:51 <Lemonizer> or in the 1-2mv area
25:01 <Lemonizer> and what is strange, is that its pretty stable for hours
25:06 <Lemonizer> then suddently, bam 2mv
25:26 <rust_collector> water heater kicks in
25:33 <Lemonizer> nope im alone
25:44 <Lemonizer> and ours kicks in in the night
25:52 <rust_collector> as far as you know
25:55 <Ysjoelfir> sure, 100µV could well be a drift by temperature. and the 2mV could be the mains. maybe someone switched on a heater or some factory started a big machine
25:57 <Lemonizer> but I should monitor mains
25:59 <Lemonizer> you are right
26:47 <Lemonizer> hmmm pretty interesting
26:55 <Lemonizer> I could dedicate something for the main
26:57 <rust_collector> maybe you should build you own regulated mains?
27:12 <Lemonizer> heh
27:25 <Lemonizer> an analog volt meter would be neat for that
27:35 <Lemonizer> or I could use my 175, it got a logger I never tried
27:48 <Lemonizer> but yeah, theres tons of things on the same outlet
27:52 <Lemonizer> not all at once ofc, but still
27:54 <rust_collector> and add one of those vibrating reed frequency thingies,
28:11 <Lemonizer> atm theres three screens, a set of small monitoring speaker, the lab, the systron, the workstation, a lamb
28:13 <Lemonizer> lamp
28:31 <rust_collector> my first electric goat
28:36 <Lemonizer> :>
28:45 <Lemonizer> how could I get a more stable main, not by spending a ton ?
28:56 <rust_collector> hmmm, no?
28:59 <Lemonizer> just for some machines
29:02 <Lemonizer> not for the whole house
31:57 <Ysjoelfir> you could actually
32:13 <Ysjoelfir> there are magnetic voltage.... constant... things. damn, those words
32:21 <Ysjoelfir> "Magnetischer Spannungskonstanter" in german :D
32:46 <Ysjoelfir> they are pretty cheap nowadays as nobody needs those anymore
32:49 <Lemonizer> hmm and what does it do ? :>
32:59 <Ysjoelfir> it keeps your mains voltage stable
33:29 <Ysjoelfir> there. magnetic constant voltage transformers
33:29 <Ysjoelfir> http://www.voltage-stabilizer-sb.com/downloads/magspako.pdf
34:04 <Lemonizer> it looks expensive ;x
34:24 <Ysjoelfir> well, those in that pdf are supposedly modern versions with way higher specs
34:31 <Ysjoelfir> but from the old days those things were pretty common
34:37 <Ysjoelfir> at least here
34:45 <rust_collector> https://www.schuntermann.de/en/voltage-stabilisation#magnetic-voltage-stabilizer
35:02 <rust_collector> just a quick what it does thing
37:11 <rust_collector> get a fucking huge motor, and a really super huge flywheel. it will force the powerplant to be more even.
37:36 <Ysjoelfir> well, that would work, too.
37:44 <Ysjoelfir> some big factories did that back in the days
37:51 <rust_collector> keep it simple, and all that
38:03 <Antarez> a simple true-online UPS would do the job, if you can tolerate not always perfect waveforms
38:20 <Ysjoelfir> and keep your anything out of that flywheel
39:00 <Ysjoelfir> antarez: true, but since lemon started this topic in regards of his PSU drifting, potentially to mains variations, I would be careful with switching devices like a UPS
40:06 <Antarez> indeed, makes sense
40:17 <Lemonizer> I plan to invest in an UPS, but not now
40:36 <Ysjoelfir> I recently threw away a 1.5kva UPS
40:47 <Lemonizer> threw away ?
40:50 <Ysjoelfir> yes
40:54 <rust_collector> he is pretty strong
40:55 <Lemonizer> but why do you throw away stuff
40:57 <Ysjoelfir> like in the trash it goes
41:04 <Lemonizer> donate it at least idk :>
41:11 <Lemonizer> I hate throwing working stuff
41:23 <rust_collector> you need people who wants your crap
41:29 <Ysjoelfir> because I asked various places, like hackerspaces, schools, universities... some even wanted money FROM ME to accept stuff
41:30 <Lemonizer> ho trust me
41:34 <Lemonizer> theres tons of peeps
41:52 <rust_collector> yeah, but they want you to ship it, and all kinds of stuff
42:05 <Lemonizer> damn honestly
42:06 <Ysjoelfir> so I threw away around 14 blue trash sacks (those big 160 liter ones) with stuff and many more that was to big for the dumpster
42:18 * Antarez never paid for UPSes, only for replacement batteries
42:20 <Lemonizer> :(
42:32 <Ysjoelfir> yep, indeed they want you to bring it, pay for shipping, want it clean and calibrated and stuff,...
42:50 <Ysjoelfir> and even complain when something is damaged or whatever
43:05 <Lemonizer> man id pay for shipping if I could
43:13 <Antarez> no good deed ever goes unpunished
43:18 <Lemonizer> like the two devices mamalala wants to give me
43:30 <Lemonizer> he told me 'sorry I wont clean it' man you better not clean it ofc
43:39 <Lemonizer> like he isnt already doing a ton by giving me things
44:19 <rust_collector> how about... you post your address on the forum, so people can send stuff?
45:06 <Lemonizer> heh idk, I don't like doing that like 'hey gimme stuff please'
45:10 <rust_collector> man, I could organize a work trip there, to drop off a trailer load of...stuff
45:26 <Lemonizer> well I like stuff, but I need to limit myself :>
45:33 <Lemonizer> electronic stuff mainly those days haha
47:14 <rust_collector> I do feel a bit sad for some of the stuff I see destroyed every week. like pallets of thinkpads, all kinds of thingies, hair dryers, microwaves, more thinkpads. into the crusher they go
47:48 <rust_collector> crusher says Nom noM NoM noM
47:59 <rust_collector> buuuurp
48:01 <Lemonizer> thinkpads
48:05 <Lemonizer> no please stop
48:11 <Lord_of_nothing> re
48:15 <Lemonizer> I can handle world hanger, people dying etc
48:19 <Lemonizer> but not thinkpads
48:31 <rust_collector> yeah, old crap, you know
48:55 <rust_collector> I am so happy people die, because it would be pretty crowded
50:02 <rust_collector> but, it is very green, you know. "recycling" "old" thinkpads.
50:50 <Lemonizer> or recycle them by refurbishing them because they are sturdy fucker to give them away, instead of building new shitty things
51:33 <rust_collector> no no, you have to crush them into powder. that is recycling these days
51:47 <Lemonizer> yeah I know, and it suck balls if you ask me
51:55 <Lemonizer> but no one ask me sooo
52:33 <rust_collector> at our local "recycling center" you can not even buy... say steel plates, or anything. because it is going to be recycled.
52:58 <rust_collector> so, processed again, in stead of just keep using
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06:18 <Ysjoelfir> thats recycling for you...
06:25 <Ysjoelfir> however, I'm going home
06:30 <Ysjoelfir> bye
06:33 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Quit: Farvel og har en hyggelige tid :)
06:39 <rust_collector> home
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14:30 <Nothing\> lol i'm actually really enjoying these prison weekends
14:54 <Nothing\> it's awesome, you just hang out and watch tv all day
16:25 <rust_collector> so, it is like home, just quiet?
16:43 <Nothing\> nah not so quiet
16:57 <Nothing\> pretty loud actually, cuz there are like 40 of us in one room
17:41 <Nothing\> most people just sleep clear through the weekends, i dunno how they do that, they must be on something heavy
17:50 <rust_collector> fancy, you criminals should be outside in a tent
18:02 <Nothing\> lol that's what they do in some places
18:14 <Nothing\> i know san quentin does that, out in california
18:17 <Ampera> Hi Nothing\
18:18 <Ampera> how do
18:21 <Nothing\> hey Ampera
18:26 <Nothing\> i'm doing great, how about you?
18:35 <rust_collector> Ampera hates you, just so you know
18:38 <Ampera> doing good, caffeine pilling through work
18:44 <Ampera> no Nothing\ is the one guy in here I actually like
18:46 <Ampera> that and Halcyon
18:50 <Nothing\> rust_collector: somehow, i've always suspected
18:51 <Nothing\> lol
18:54 <rust_collector> oh, ok
19:02 <Ampera> you're cool too, because you collect rust
19:04 <Ampera> and I like rust
19:19 <Nothing\> i feel like rust has some value in home chemistry but i can't think of it
19:24 <Nothing\> thermite?
19:33 <rust_collector> yeah, that too
19:37 <Nothing\> no, thermite creates rust, doesn't it?
19:37 <Ampera> probably tastes better than marmite
19:48 <Nothing\> lol thremite is just spicy marmite
20:05 <rust_collector> the one labeled "hot"
20:22 <Nothing\> Ampera: these weekends in prison are turning out to be pretty awesome
20:31 <Nothing\> i just hang out with friends and watch tv all day
21:09 <Ampera> yeah I read
21:25 <Nothing\> everyone gets along well, no fights or anything, everyone just wants to do their time and get out and i don't think there's anyone under 30 in there so they're all too old to fight much
21:27 <Ampera> so much for punishing crims :P
21:33 <Nothing\> haha yeah really
21:33 <rust_collector> better than hang out, and watch frends on tv all day
22:06 <Nothing\> rust_collector: oh i know, last time i worked my trainer kept talking about friends so i got thinking maybe i should give it a watch again and it might be better than i remember
22:11 <Nothing\> nope, not a chance in hell
22:21 <Nothing\> i don't even think i got through one episode
22:49 <rust_collector> I thought it was sort of entertaining the first time. but now the kids are watching it, and... no
22:59 <Nothing\> we watched the live action alice in wonderland yesterday
23:22 <Nothing\> i was lucky, i got out just before they put on the daytona 500
23:41 <rust_collector> action alice in wonderland. that is a good porn
23:53 <Nothing\> lol is thta an actual porno?
24:04 <rust_collector> I dunno, you watched it?
24:12 <Nothing\> it's funny some of the names/themes they come up with for porn
24:16 <Nothing\> can't say that i have
24:31 <rust_collector> Nothing\> we watched the live action alice in wonderland yesterday
24:50 <rust_collector> so we does not include you?
24:51 <Nothing\> lol
24:59 <Nothing\> aha i see what you did there
25:07 <rust_collector> GOOD!
25:18 <Nothing\> oh hey, somehow that reminds me, have you ever watched harald baldr's channel rust_collector?
25:34 <rust_collector> action alice. I have to make an action figure for that
25:43 <Nothing\> when i got through with mr bald's stuff i went to baldr's channel and it's actually pretty good too, not quite as good but still good
25:44 <rust_collector> yea, I have seen some of him
25:57 <rust_collector> it is just not the same
26:13 <Nothing\> no, it's not as well... narrated? hosted? i can't think of the word
26:49 <Nothing\> they're very long too, though i don't mind that cuz i can just put one on and zone out if i don't wanna worry too much about what i'm watching
27:06 <rust_collector> He is very... like someone else. and I think you can hear a lot of what he says, without saying it, if you are from up here
27:56 <Nothing\> yeah i think that's what it is, mr bald had neat factoids and stuff about what he was looking at, where baldr just sorta says what he sees
28:07 <Ampera> The software is MISBEHAVING
28:14 <Nothing\> Ampera: spank it
28:16 <Ampera> it's throwing a tantrum
29:04 <rust_collector> he has done some read on wikipedia commenting on some videos.
29:15 <rust_collector> hmm, slap it in the face
29:21 <Nothing\> ah has he
29:43 <Ampera> oh boy, a 189 test suite
29:45 <Nothing\> i've mostly been watching his stuff from SE asia, phillipines mostly
30:02 <Nothing\> man i still need to get a computer
30:42 <Nothing\> i had the money for one, but i was expecting to go to prison for a good long time so i spent it all on garbage, i totally coulda bought a computer if i had saved that
30:49 <Nothing\> i miss windows software
30:54 <rust_collector> if you have a thing for watching almost middle aged pervs traveling....
31:11 <Nothing\> rust_collector: lol i think mr bald is more of a perv
31:26 <Nothing\> you see that one chick he travels with? alinchek?
31:30 <rust_collector> mmh.
31:34 <Nothing\> man she's smoking hot, but like half his age
31:56 <Nothing\> lol and she's just begging to get raped one of these days
31:59 <Nothing\> almost literally
31:59 <rust_collector> how old do you believe they are?
32:10 <rust_collector> yup
32:22 <Nothing\> mr bald i think is probably early 50's, alinchek, i dunno early 20s
33:14 <Nothing\> you see the more recent video he made from mauritania where they hopped the freight train across the sahara?
33:37 <rust_collector> yes
33:48 <rust_collector> I think you are wrong
33:52 <Nothing\> a lot of people gave him shit for leaving her alone with the taxi driver
34:02 <Nothing\> yeah i probably am, i'm terrible at guessing age
34:03 <rust_collector> mmhmm
34:36 <rust_collector> me too, but he is not too much over 40, and she is 28. well, that is my guess
35:03 <Nothing\> nah i don't think she's THAT old
35:10 <Nothing\> mid 20's, tops
35:34 <rust_collector> just wait, 10 more years, and she wil just fall apart
35:41 <Nothing\> oh yeah totally
35:50 <Nothing\> i was just talking to someone about that yesterday
36:05 <Nothing\> how all of the hot chicks, they get uglier when they get older
36:12 <Nothing\> and the ugly chicks get better looking
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36:44 <Nothing\> hey what's this now
36:49 <Nothing\> there's a guy here called Lord_of_nothing
36:55 <Nothing\> i don't like the sounds of that
37:21 <Nothing\> makes me sound subservient
37:32 <rust_collector> just wait until he starts saying something
38:01 <Nothing\> he probably won't, 90% of the nicklist never seems to talk
38:26 <Nothing\> so many idlers on IRC for some reason
39:21 <Nothing\> lol man, when i went in on saturday, they busted like 4 or 5 people trying to smuggle stuff in
39:33 <coppice_> Nothing\: its not just an age thing. I find that when I am immediately struck by how great a woman looks her effect quickly fades. On the other hand there are some women who have no effect on me when I first meet them who I find more and more attractive over time, and usually continue to find attractive over decades.
40:10 <Nothing\> coppice_: that's true, novelty is a big part of it as well
40:12 <coppice_> s/and usually continue/and sometimes contine
40:47 <Nothing\> novelty and actually knowing what you want, you'd be surprised how many guys have no idea what/who would actually make them happy
40:53 <Nothing\> or maybe not so surprised
41:47 <Nothing\> i just avoid that whole scene, i've been single now for... oh jeez gotta think back on this one... i think 14 years now
41:57 <Nothing\> no, 13, since 2007
42:20 <Nothing\> and honestly i like it that way, i like the freedom
43:08 <Nothing\> there's still part of me that feels like i'd like to be in a relationship, but when i think about it realistically i realize i'd probably be miserable in one
43:27 <Nothing\> it probably depends who i'd end up with too
45:32 <Nothing\> i'm too insecure for relationships though, or i was when i was in them, and that made me too controlling cuz i'd worry she'd leave me if i gave her too much freedom
46:24 <Nothing\> i'd get all out of sorts when she'd talk to guys online and what not, so i gave some trust and let up on that and let her talk to whomever she wanted
46:32 <Nothing\> and she leaves me for a guy she meets online! lol
46:49 <rust_collector> perfect
47:01 <Nothing\> oh i know lol
48:23 <Nothing\> the best part is, we just moved 3 hours from everyone i knew so she could be with her family, and the guy she ran off with lived in another city that was nowhere near where her family was, so we moved for nothing and she left me high and dry
48:48 <Nothing\> gotta say though, as shitty as it all was, i wouldn't change anything cuz it was the greatest learning experience i've ever had
49:05 <Nothing\> i don't think any other event in my life caused me to grow more as a person
49:26 <Nothing\> or to try to improve myself
50:00 <Nothing\> wow wtf
50:23 <Nothing\> apparently when you save a waveform to usb on my scope, it just saves it as a bitmap screenshot
54:36 <rust_collector> send it to some company, and have them print that on wallpaper
55:07 <Nothing\> that'd be pretty cool actually
55:39 <Nothing\> get a screenshot of a nice, booby-shaped sinewave and print it out as wallpaper
55:44 <rust_collector> that, and the dark side of the moon cover
56:25 <Nothing\> i still need to make a sinewave generator, i've been intending to make one for almost 3 years now since i got into electronics
57:22 <Nothing\> i've been pursuing a phase shift type deal but it's hard to balance them right, especially on a breadboard
57:42 <Nothing\> i'm thinking maybe it'd be easier to just filter a sinewave out of a square wave
59:02 <rust_collector> making anything perfect-ish on a breadboard seems tricky
59:17 <Nothing\> to get sinewaves before, i'd just use an AC adapter wall wart that just just a transformer that put out 16v, i just cut the end off, clipped some alligator clips onto it and then taped everything so nothing would short out
59:38 <Nothing\> but somehow when i turned it on, something sparked bright enough that i could see it trhough the tape
00:00 <rust_collector> x ray generator
00:17 <Nothing\> i wonder how much x-rays vacuum tubes gave off
00:42 <rust_collector> uhm, ok
00:54 <Nothing\> applied science made a pretty good video about generating x-rays
01:09 <Nothing\> but apparently some CRTs gave off x-rays pretty bad
01:53 <Nothing\> but yeah there's so much stray capacitance in a breadboard
02:16 <rust_collector> that, and just crappy contacts everywhere
02:23 <Nothing\> i can actually run a 555 timer on a breadboard without putting a capacitor in it because the capacitance between the rows is enough to get a signal out of it
03:18 <Nothing\> oh i know, the first board ever used sucks now cuz the contacts are so loose, i get intermittent power loss just from the wires jiggling around and breaking proper contact
03:28 <Nothing\> it's gotten as loose as a thai hooker
04:01 <Lemonizer> hello im looking for a new dmm send help
04:30 <Nothing\> Lemonizer: hrm can't say much about DMMs, i just bought a DSO not long ago though
04:49 <rust_collector> Sorry, you live in one of those weird "free" countries, so I can not have you sedated
04:53 <Lemonizer> its a joke I was trying to trigger rust
05:00 <Nothing\> oh lol
05:20 <Nothing\> Lemonizer: so yeah, prison continues to be a real joy
05:22 <Nothing\> literally
05:23 <Lemonizer> well I only have two dmms and two voms
05:30 <Lemonizer> ha !
05:32 <Nothing\> it's actually fun
05:32 <Lemonizer> tell me more
05:41 <Nothing\> i just hang out with friends and watch tv all day
05:43 <Lemonizer> damn thats rare
06:09 <Nothing\> yeah i know, it's great, everyone gets along great, there's no fighting or anything like that
06:18 <rust_collector> they work at the meth lab from 22 to 6 one week, and 5.30 to 14 the other week
06:41 <Lemonizer> well perfect then :>
07:00 <Nothing\> it really is perfect, i couldn't have asked for better
07:20 <Nothing\> especially considering going by the hour, i'm only gonna serve something like 32 days on a 90 day sentence
07:46 <Nothing\> cuz they count each weekend i'm in there as 3 days, even though i'm only in from 9am saturday until 5pm sunday
08:47 <Nothing\> seriously, all things considered i got the best deal possible
09:12 <rust_collector> I think someone has been nice to you
09:32 <Nothing\> nice is an understatement
09:55 <Nothing\> certainly has improved my faith a great deal though, that's for sure
10:41 <rust_collector> mmmhhrrrffffffppppkkkkk
10:48 <Nothing\> easy there cowboy
11:16 <Nothing\> bah, i'm out of juice for my ecig, but it's a holiday os everything's closed
11:29 <rust_collector> ah, that is better
11:32 <Nothing\> stupid stephen harper and his made up holidays
11:44 <rust_collector> you are not supposed to be vaping that crap anyway
11:46 <Nothing\> rust_collector: difficult poop?
11:52 <Nothing\> why not?
12:03 <Nothing\> will i get that vaping disease
12:18 <rust_collector> ehm, maybe that will be a thing
12:25 <Nothing\> actually you're right, i've been on chantix for like a month now so i really should stop
13:01 <rust_collector> at least try to go for a useless vape. I mean nicotine free
13:07 <Nothing\> i went on it cuz i knew going the weekend in prison without being able to smoke woulda killed me psychologically otherwise
13:26 <Nothing\> and i don't much feel like smoking tobacco that's been up a guy's ass
13:39 <Nothing\> seriously, that's a big thing in there
13:40 <rust_collector> hmm
13:45 <rust_collector> heh
13:48 <Nothing\> lotta people smoke ass tobacco in there
14:00 <Lemonizer> chantix
14:10 <Nothing\> Lemonizer: yeah it's great stuff for quitting smoking
14:15 <Lemonizer> heh I tried it once, but after the first week my father got his cancer
14:17 <rust_collector> don't talk about asses, and then " seriously, that's a big thing in there"
14:19 <Lemonizer> so I kinda quited
14:37 <Nothing\> Lemonizer: ah fukc i'm sorry to hear that man, seriously give it another shot though
14:42 <Lemonizer> isnt it chanpix ?
14:57 <Lemonizer> yeah I should my addictologue keep telling me about that
15:00 <Nothing\> i've tried everything under the sun to quit but this stuff has worked better than any other smoking cessation aid
15:29 <Nothing\> Lemonizer: yeah it's the same thing as champix, i just call it chantix cuz that's the american name for it and i always assume i'm talking to yanks when i'm online
15:40 <Lemonizer> hooo ok
16:32 <Nothing\> first time i tried it for cigarettes, i just took it as directed, within the first week i cut back more than half, by the next week i'd quit without even trying
16:46 <Nothing\> no effort, no withdrawal, no cravings, it was great
17:10 <Nothing\> it doesn't seem to be quite as effective for vaping though for some reason
17:44 <Nothing\> rust_collector: lol ever hear about that guy who tried to make a cement cast of his rectum
17:54 <Nothing\> seriously, that was a big thing in there
17:56 <Nothing\> :P
18:04 <rust_collector> I would think so
18:13 <Nothing\> also, caustic burns to his rectum
18:22 <Nothing\> i believe he was left with a colostomy
18:56 <Nothing\> there was this show called 101 sex accidents and that's the only one i remember out of it
18:57 <rust_collector> good thing he did not remember how he made the lead castings of ant hills when he was younger
19:02 <Lemonizer> some peeps got some nice goals in life
19:06 <Nothing\> that and the guy who broke his penis when it slipped out
19:19 <rust_collector> ow
19:25 <Lemonizer> heh thats pretty common
19:32 <Lemonizer> it happened to someone I know
19:37 <Nothing\> damn
19:40 <Lemonizer> the worst thing was the noise he said
19:49 <Lemonizer> he didnt felt much pain as he passed out :>
19:52 <Nothing\> yeah i've seen pictures of it and it looks like a swan or a goose or something
20:02 <Lemonizer> yes it never really recovers
20:07 <Nothing\> it just bends at a 90 degree angle
20:38 <Nothing\> but damn man, you wouldn't think it'd make a noise
20:43 <Nothing\> ugh
20:52 <Lemonizer> a clack, he said
21:01 <Nothing\> huh
22:30 <Nothing\> hrm i should make a lambda diode
22:38 <Lemonizer> wow when I refresh a page
22:43 <Lemonizer> I get a variation of like
22:52 <Lemonizer> 0.5mv on my supply
23:05 <rust_collector> good good
23:08 <Nothing\> i've been wanting to make one for a while but i've always been worried about reverse biasing a jfet
23:55 <Nothing\> i have like 50 p channel jfets cuz i accidentally ordered multiple packs, lol i'll probably never use them all
24:19 <Nothing\> dunno what on earth you'd use a p channel jfet for other than a lambda diode
24:59 <rust_collector> well, I have no idea what you would use a lambda diode for, so...
25:15 <Nothing\> i think you could make an oscillator from one
25:25 <Nothing\> they act sorta like high voltage tunnel diodes
25:39 <Nothing\> where they have a region of negative impedence
26:30 <Nothing\> actually i have some tunnel diodes too, but i've never touched them cuz i still need to learn more about them
27:13 <Nothing\> got a pretty good deal on them, it was less than $20 for a pack of 10 cuz they were surplus soviet. the only time i got a better deal on amazon than aliexpress
27:50 <Ampera> lunch break
28:02 <Ampera> I had some leftovers from try 2 of macaroni and cheeseburger
28:04 <Nothing\> nice, watcha eating?
28:26 <Ampera> which is bratwurst chunks in a mild cheddar cheese sauce and elbow macaroni
28:36 <Ampera> all of it done from scratch (well I had the sausage from the store)
28:40 <Nothing\> i don't remember what they gave us for lunch yesterday
28:50 <Nothing\> but breakfast was scrambled eggs and breakfast sausage
28:59 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/678663300908580899/IMG_20200216_130358.jpg
29:19 <Ampera> I'd imagine the food is school lunch or better
29:23 <Ampera> likely better
29:31 <Ampera> (that picture was from fresh)
29:36 <rust_collector> did you make macaroni?
29:42 <Ampera> no I did not
29:47 <rust_collector> ok.
29:54 <Nothing\> damn Ampera that actually looks pretty good
30:05 <rust_collector> that is because it is food
30:15 <Ampera> I'm respectable at cooking, I do things my own way, without recipes
31:01 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/679016845822525510/IMG_20200216_111006.jpg
31:09 <Ampera> These were all the ingredients, and yes I used WAY too much butter
31:14 <Ampera> not pictured is some half&half
31:46 <Ampera> there was also some garlic&onion powder, along with some salt and white pepper
31:51 <Nothing\> nice Ampera
32:07 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/679016879582478356/IMG_20200215_113638.jpg
32:27 <Ampera> I also made this on Saturday, my own novel take on stir fry
32:47 <Ampera> chicken&mushrooms w/ rice noodles
32:58 <Nothing\> Ampera: what's the stuff in the upper right?
33:05 <Nothing\> i'm trying to convince my mom to make this
33:10 <Ampera> bacon grease
33:15 <Ampera> I used a little bit of it for the sausage
33:29 <Ampera> If you're going to, wait for attempt 3, at which point I will likely post a recipe
33:43 <Ampera> if you want to make the stir-fry that recipe is already on my website https://amperaa.net
34:02 <Ampera> though I need to make a new section for recipes, and rewrite that to be less experimental
34:04 <Ampera> also post images
34:36 <Nothing\> nice, yeah i'm not a fan of sausage so i think i'll get her to try it with ground beef or something
34:45 <Nothing\> maybe put some mrs dash in it for flavor
35:01 <Ampera> can definitely do that, but the reason I used sausage is because it's basically flavoured ground meat
35:27 <Nothing\> ah yeah, so it's the same deal but just saves you the trouble of spices and that
35:32 <Nothing\> which i suck at, personally
35:46 <Nothing\> one thing i've been dying to learn how to make is biryani
35:59 <Nothing\> i'd love to make a good biryani one of these days
36:50 <Lemonizer> I love people on forums
36:58 <Lemonizer> a random dude ask for help, about a vintage metrix dmm
37:00 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/679018366706515998/IMG_20200215_105435.jpg
37:04 <Nothing\> they used to sell these little packets that had some spices, cloves, sauce mix and some other stuff you could use to make your own biryani or tandoori or whatever, they were awesome but i can't find them anymore
37:07 <Lemonizer> a dude answers 'just send it to warranty'
37:13 <Ampera> This is the ingredient manifest for the stir fry, not pictured is brown sugar
37:28 <Nothing\> Lemonizer: lol a metric DMM? is there even such a thing?
37:55 <Nothing\> actually, most units for electronics are already SI, aren't they?
37:59 <Lemonizer> Metrix, the brand :>
38:00 <rust_collector> metrix
38:04 <Nothing\> oh okay
38:14 <Lemonizer> its like, 80s maybe ?
38:16 <rust_collector> even inches are metric now
38:22 <Lemonizer> clueless peeps and their premade answers
38:25 <Nothing\> rust_collector: haha i know, right
38:30 <Lemonizer> thats why I somewhat hate random forums
39:10 <Nothing\> Lemonizer: when i wanted to make a circuit i'd usually search google images and go with whatever i could find in there and usually it'd be something from a random forum
39:31 <Lemonizer> yeah as long as you dont ask for help there its fine
40:04 <rust_collector> most of those circuits are cut from some devices datasheet, so
40:31 <Lemonizer> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1751191418.htm/
40:37 <Lemonizer> ive seen those selling for thousands
40:41 <rust_collector> well, for the circuits I tend to look up anyway
40:48 <Lemonizer> well, a thousand at least
41:31 <Nothing\> rust_collector: lol actually most of the ones i come across are from quora or the like asking what's wrong with the circuit
41:44 <Nothing\> meanwhile i'm trying to build it myself and wondering why it's not working right lol
41:51 <rust_collector> nice
42:07 <Nothing\> datasheets have great circuits though
42:26 <rust_collector> well, I am going for my nap.
42:35 <rust_collector> Good night etc.
42:47 <Nothing\> have a good one, man
42:49 <Lemonizer> heh nighty
43:03 <Nothing\> yeah i think i'll be on my way as well
43:08 <Nothing\> have a good one, guys
43:18 <rust_collector> no, you are in the wrong timezone.
43:23 <rust_collector> have fun
43:25 <Lemonizer> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1750254644.htm/
43:26 <Lemonizer> hoooooo
43:31 <Nothing\> will do!
43:31 <Lemonizer> I wanted some sort of curve tracer kit
43:35 <Lemonizer> I didnt know those things existed
43:46 <rust_collector> YAY! "ameg"
43:53 <Lemonizer> yeh cant even read
43:54 <Lemonizer> well
43:57 <rust_collector> that spelling will save you some cash
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54:46 <Lemonizer> im quite tempted by that little thingie
54:50 <Lemonizer> its been a long time I wanted one
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54:35 <Lemonizer> hey Ysjoelfir
55:18 <Ysjoelfir> Hi lemon
55:43 <Lemonizer> do you have some precision decade box for sale ? :>
55:58 <Lemonizer> by precision I mean
56:07 <Lemonizer> at least 0.1% or better would be alright
01:31 <Ysjoelfir> nah. I already disassembled the boxes I had. :) Nice hartmann & braun ones
01:46 <Lemonizer> dissasembled ? ;s
02:00 <Ysjoelfir> yes
02:52 <Lemonizer> but but why
04:56 <Ysjoelfir> I had some double, and since noone wanted them I decided to disassemble those (they were mechanically damaged, cases dent, scratched,...) and use the resistors for my DIY variable voltage "calibrator"
05:15 <Lemonizer> ho ok I see
05:39 <Lemonizer> ho and I remember you said you had some current clamps !
05:46 <Lemonizer> Im still looking for a decently priced one :>
07:38 <Ysjoelfir> I have several for sale in my shop that isn't yet online, so I would make a special price for you :) but remember, those are not clampmeters but dedicated current clamps
08:01 <Lemonizer> haa you need to connect them to a meter right ?
08:28 <Lemonizer> I was more looking at those analog clamp meters, I might have mispelled it
08:56 <Lemonizer> I would love to know what you have for sale
09:00 <Lemonizer> or at least a few names :>
09:36 <Ysjoelfir> correct. it outputs transformed voltage/current that needs to be displayed on some other meter. most of them are french :X
10:05 <Ysjoelfir> chauvin arnoux or something like that
10:21 <Lemonizer> yeah I see
10:26 <Lemonizer> Ive seen some of those
10:49 <Ysjoelfir> but those I have are specifically made to spec for me employer
11:38 <Ysjoelfir> the ones I sell I grabbed from the trash. they were discarded because the repair was to expensive for the customer, so I cleaned them, repaired them,. calibrated them and boom. free clamps that sell for good money
11:55 <Lemonizer> heh thats neat !
12:22 <Ysjoelfir> btw, if answers take some time - I'm cooking and also playing at the same time^^
12:22 <EEVBlog> 42, Ysjoelfir!
12:29 <Ysjoelfir> :O
12:35 <Ysjoelfir> what did I do?
12:38 <Lemonizer> >;
12:38 <Ysjoelfir> I triggered it!
12:40 <Ysjoelfir> oh no!
12:44 <Lemonizer> some time
12:48 <Ampera> answers
12:48 <Lemonizer> time time
12:53 <Ysjoelfir> ah^^
12:54 <Lemonizer> if answers
13:03 <Ampera> EEVBlog, what is the answer
13:03 <EEVBlog> 42.
13:20 <Lemonizer> mmmmm
13:24 <Lemonizer> answer ?
13:27 <Ysjoelfir> nice one ampera^^
13:47 <Ampera> EEVBot will be a project down the road for me, I need to port it to C or C++, but that takes time, and I have to do all the IRC code by hand
13:57 <Ampera> Java just isn't cutting it imo
14:22 <Lemonizer> its a fun thing for sure
14:26 <Lemonizer> ho btw
14:29 <Lemonizer> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1750254644.htm/ I saw this
14:33 <Ysjoelfir> I assume it could be a nice little thing on the cv :)
16:57 <Lemonizer> im kinda tempted to get it
17:17 <Lemonizer> I wanted some sort of curve tracer :> well, its just a basic thing that use the XY mode of the scope
17:19 <Lemonizer> but its fun
17:21 <Ysjoelfir> you can build something simmilar very easy
17:28 <Ysjoelfir> google scope octopus :)
17:36 <Lemonizer> yeah I know I know x)
17:51 <Lemonizer> sometimes I just like the item itself :> I saw those sell for 100 euros ! haha
17:56 <Lemonizer> but I might make mine if I have the components
25:28 <Lemonizer> in the octopus schematics theres a transformer
25:37 <Lemonizer> if I power it from a supply, I dont need it ?
25:55 <Lemonizer> haaa ok
26:01 <Lemonizer> its ac
26:02 <Ysjoelfir> the transformer does the hole magic in that thing
26:25 <Lemonizer> well lemme see what I have in my box o salvaged transformas
26:59 <Lemonizer> so we got a microwave one
27:39 <Lemonizer> and four others
27:52 <Lemonizer> when theres no markings, is there a way to determine the ratio ?
42:35 <Ysjoelfir> find the secondary and inject a small AC voltage. measure the primary. measured primary divided by the secondary is the turns ratio
42:48 <Lemonizer> the problem is to inject a small ac voltage
42:50 <Lemonizer> :>
43:04 <Lemonizer> is there a simple safe way to do that ?
43:25 <Lemonizer> I measured both windings resistance
50:57 <Lemonizer> https://cdn.instructables.com/FD2/DKFW/IIUOPSUQ/FD2DKFWIIUOPSUQ.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp&&frame=1&fit=bounds
50:59 <Lemonizer> I found this
51:22 <Lemonizer> it needs a 1:1 transformer ? well that add another problem, I need to find one : >
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06:07 <T3sl4> wat
06:11 <T3sl4> the bottom transistor is upside down
06:37 <T3sl4> if you want mains voltage, you use a mains:12V trans in that
24:34 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/uKwoaUa
44:03 <Ysjoelfir> where are you traveling to, T3sl4? and who is that under your feet? :O
44:18 <Ysjoelfir> Lemonizer, la sitrón!
44:48 <Ysjoelfir> I took photos of the clamps. take a look. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HODAlQz9THEbk95wDk0WAez6Q34TRj3w?usp=sharing
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57:47 <Lord_of_nothing> re
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03:58 <Lemonizer> gabon parrots :>
04:04 <Lemonizer> my grandparents got two of them
04:18 <Lemonizer> poor things never had the chance to fly, they never left their cage
05:00 <Lemonizer> wow pretty nice clamps !
05:11 <Lemonizer> what kind of meter to I need to use them ? a random one ?
07:12 <Ysjoelfir> whatever you like. ideally a digital. well, for the small one with the grey cable you need a LMG500 or 600
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08:30 <Lemonizer> a lmg500 ? how much are those, 20k euros ? :>
09:11 <Lemonizer> https://www.leboncoin.fr/sports_hobbies/1722754697.htm/
09:11 <Ysjoelfir> somewhere in that region, yes.
09:20 <Lemonizer> I think I will buy every cables he got, the stackable ones
09:29 <Lemonizer> 0.003% precision
09:30 <Ysjoelfir> looks nice
09:32 <Lemonizer> impressive stuff
11:57 <Lemonizer> but yeah for 50cents to 1 euros a piece, I grab what I can
12:04 <Lemonizer> I bought some from aliexpress but they take ages to come
18:39 <Lemonizer> wtf I just saw a graph of a reference 10pf cap
19:03 <Lemonizer> CapBridge Median: 10.00125501 pf
19:11 <Lemonizer> how can you get such a resolution ?
19:26 <Ampera> I bought a new smartphone
19:30 <Ampera> well, new to me
19:34 <Ampera> a 1+1
19:38 <Ysjoelfir> thats a good question
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20:15 <Ysjoelfir> you want to donate one to me, too, ampera? i dropped my good old LG yesterday. now its display is shattered :(
20:17 <Lemonizer> I know some devices can reach atto farads
20:53 <Ampera> iPhone 3G yours for the cost of shipping, Ysjoelfir
20:56 <Lemonizer> I think the lcr meter im getting is up to 10 femto farads, which is the norm of lcr meters of that price
21:16 <Lemonizer> good ol 3G !
21:41 <Ysjoelfir> can you even use that nowadays? I have never used an eggphone, too.
21:52 <Lemonizer> sure you can
22:15 <Lemonizer> my mother is still rocking a 4, and my father was playing with old iphones last year
22:25 <Lemonizer> I still have his 10, that we dont use
22:27 <Ampera> the 3G was my first phone about 4 years ago
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22:33 <Lemonizer> im too afraid of damaging it somehow
22:40 <Ampera> I'm now using a BLU R1 HD, which is my second phone
22:43 <Lemonizer> and its too big
23:44 <Ysjoelfir> I used a galaxy s2 for a loooooong time... after that a S3 for not so long, a htc desire HD for very long and now the LG G3.
23:54 <Lemonizer> the guy got 40s of each size, 1m, 0.5 and 0.3m
24:01 <Lemonizer> if they are silicone, jackpot
24:05 <Lemonizer> if not, well thats still great
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25:43 <Lemonizer> I still need to figure how to disassamble the big watt/amp/voltmeter
28:51 <Lemonizer> im suffering everyday the lack of stackable cables
29:08 <Lemonizer> I measured my supply by poking probes in its output all day :(
31:55 <Lemonizer> ha, slimblade acting up, deadfingercells wipe time
40:05 <Lord_of_nothing> why not use a cable drum?
40:27 <Lemonizer> what do you mean by a cable drum ?
09:05 <Lord_of_nothing> who you can roll up the cable
09:20 <Lemonizer> ho I never thought about it
09:35 <Lemonizer> but I just dont have any cables right now thats the problem
09:41 <Lemonizer> I ordered some but they take time to come
09:56 <Lemonizer> but I found a dude selling some for cheap, im asking him how much he wants
10:03 <Lemonizer> one never have enough cables
13:12 <Lord_of_nothing> what kind of cable is that who you talk about?
13:29 <Lemonizer> 4mm stackable banana cables
13:49 <Lord_of_nothing> i never hear of
14:21 <Lemonizer> https://fr.farnell.com/cal-test-electronics/ct2131-150-0/4mm-stackable-banana-plug-plug/dp/2917282
14:30 <Lord_of_nothing> currently i put a cat6 s/ftp cable truth the wall
21:11 <Lord_of_nothing> cool i never saw that
21:12 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x2ARkXc7v0
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57:51 <MrMobodies> Hello, anyone got an old Surface RT tablet?
58:03 <MrMobodies> I just found one when I was looking through my bags
58:33 <Lemonizer> nope, but I played with some
58:40 <Lemonizer> pretty locked down device if you ask me
58:56 <MrMobodies> I rememembered why I couldn't adjust the brightness
59:08 <MrMobodies> it all came back why it went away
59:30 <MrMobodies> I set it to Microsoft WDM standard display adaptor
59:55 <MrMobodies> otherwise with the Tegra 4 driver the display has that "dynamic brightness" thing
00:20 <MrMobodies> Show a light picture and the contrast changes
00:30 <MrMobodies> On battery it on does it on certain stuff
01:00 <MrMobodies> I found when I change to the standard driver it keeps the brightness levels the same until restart and it goes full brightness
01:26 <MrMobodies> oh and it has that jailbreak as I only use it to show pictures
01:38 <MrMobodies> on iranview, simple things I might use it for
03:47 <MrMobodies> I didn't buy it it was given to me, maybe I should have sold it many years ago
13:20 <MrMobodies> Lemonizer? you changed from lemon?
13:48 <Lemonizer> sorry im almost falling asleep
13:50 <Lemonizer> well not really
14:09 <Lemonizer> its my second nick on mirc, and somehow I crashed and logged again while the other was still on
19:01 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j5cwOeT8-0
33:28 <MrMobodies> A pedestrian hit by a train with fatal outcome
37:52 <Lemonizer> http://www.guildline.com/primary-electrical-metrology/highest-level-standards/resistance-measurement-bridges/6622a-series-of-dcc
37:56 <Lemonizer> god damn guys
38:00 <Lemonizer> 10.5 digits
38:49 <Lemonizer> I bet it can measure the depth of my depression
39:15 <Lemonizer> with an uncertainity of 0 ppm
39:22 <MrMobodies> it sounds good
39:32 <Lemonizer> I dont want to know the price of this
39:39 <Lemonizer> Resolution: ± 0.0001 ppm of Full Scale
40:32 <Lemonizer> 0,015ppm 3 years accuracy
41:19 <Lemonizer> down to 100 pico ohms ffs
41:37 <MrMobodies> I can't find it selling anywhere
41:51 <Lemonizer> ho its just on the guidline website I think
42:02 <Lemonizer> with a 'if you have to ask, you cant afford it' price
42:19 <Lemonizer> must be close to 7 digits I think
42:37 <Lemonizer> I remember that 110ghz 256gs/s scope
42:48 <Lemonizer> it was 1.3M euros if im right
43:07 <Lemonizer> 110 fucking ghz, with 256giga samples/seconds
43:11 <Lemonizer> on each ouputs
43:13 <MrMobodies> A million pounds
43:18 <Lemonizer> not divided
43:23 <Lemonizer> 256gs/s per ouputs
43:28 <Lemonizer> and they were like 8
44:34 <Lemonizer> but look on the website they make insane stuff
44:44 <Lemonizer> temperature devices measuring down to 6-7 digits after coma etc
44:49 <Lemonizer> incredible
45:16 <Lemonizer> id love to be able to measure temp with 0.1C max performance
45:20 <Lemonizer> that would be awesome
46:55 <MrMobodies> I have a battery charger that only measure 3 digits past the point
47:22 <MrMobodies> I imagine now there are some that can do many more
48:37 <MrMobodies> My powerbank developed a fault last year. It has gotten worse
49:07 <MrMobodies> a bit of the ribbon seems to have snapped of
49:09 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/uVPL4dN.jpg
49:37 <Lemonizer> hmm as long as its not a trace its fine
49:38 <MrMobodies> Just push it in that area, the display shows all garbled and it turns off
50:11 <MrMobodies> I got another one which is a QD-188
50:28 <MrMobodies> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32485864933.html
50:46 <MrMobodies> It has a DC out, adjustable by 0.1v increments
50:53 <MrMobodies> from 0.1 to 24v
51:15 <MrMobodies> very handy when I want power up 12 things with no power source
51:26 <MrMobodies> It can handle over 2a which is good enough for me
51:54 <MrMobodies> and I can change the batteries as I please without desoldering
52:13 <MrMobodies> but I wouldn't trust it to charge them up in series, I charge them individually
52:49 <MrMobodies> I don't think the voltage maybe that accurate too on the DC out... not where it comes from.
53:33 <MrMobodies> I have had that one for three years and no problems with it so far.
54:18 <Lemonizer> im using a lab supply I bought second hand
54:35 <Lemonizer> its like new, 2 ouputs 32v2.2a max, and a fixed 5v3a
54:42 <Lemonizer> with analog meters
55:14 <MrMobodies> I know someone who had an anlogue one
55:21 <MrMobodies> a 1980s one
55:29 <MrMobodies> two meters, one for volts and one for amps
55:51 <Lemonizer> yeah theres that for each ouputs
55:54 <MrMobodies> I think it could do 30 at 5a ot so single output only
55:54 <Lemonizer> so 4 meters
56:10 <MrMobodies> it said something about a negative ground reference
56:19 <MrMobodies> must mean negative groun
57:00 <MrMobodies> I think the person said if you put them in series with a positive ground it'll short
57:26 <Lemonizer> yes theres a specific way to chain them
58:40 <MrMobodies> using like an upstepper?
58:56 <Lemonizer> no like putting both ouputs in series or parallel
59:21 <MrMobodies> without them shorting
59:28 <Lemonizer> yes
59:35 <Lemonizer> I never tried honestly
59:54 <MrMobodies> and without using putting upsteppers on them and then putting them in series
00:35 <MrMobodies> I have actually got a big box of them somewhere
00:54 <MrMobodies> I went crazy one day and brought many different types
14:22 <MrMobodies> I found them
14:23 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/Z3T2mhJ
15:21 <MrMobodies> I used one in an enclosure once to regulate a bathroom light that was on a mirror
17:39 <Lemonizer> neat collection :>
18:10 <Lemonizer> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1734459023.htm/ im tempted
18:12 <MrMobodies> by the way that capacitor on the downstepper is not a Rubycon, notice, it is a Rudoyon
18:40 <MrMobodies> I got a noname one of those
18:44 <MrMobodies> to measure my food with
18:58 <Lemonizer> I got nothing to measure temp right now
19:06 <Lemonizer> 30 with shipping for a small fluke could be nice
21:54 <MrMobodies> I would ask the seller to post pictures of the battery compartment to check for corrosion
22:14 <Lemonizer> boarf its not a big problem im used to it
23:01 <MrMobodies> I had that happen a couple of times on Ebay
23:21 <MrMobodies> I didn't ask the seller and they either refunded me or sent another out
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24:44 <hsn93> morning
25:00 <hsn93> huh : https://snipboard.io/MA4CgH.jpg
26:01 <steve30> o/
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20:37 <Ysjoelfir> moin
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05:36 <hsn93> what i understand from EMC is this cartoon only: https://snipboard.io/WCuPxp.jpg
09:59 <Ysjoelfir> another example: My CB radio in my car squeals when some modern cars pass by with their stupid xenon lights.
11:02 <hsn93> Citizens band radio ?
11:53 <hsn93> well i have "japaneese imported car" it has different band .. most of FM channels are >90 MHz ..
12:11 <hsn93> so i buy FM transmitter and use it with phone..
12:27 <hsn93> and u can imagine how much interferance i get :D
12:48 <hsn93> sometimes channels sometimes cars passing using same channel
13:21 <hsn93> most of FM channels in radio > 90MHz and the car radio has max 90 ..
14:16 <Ysjoelfir> yes. citizen band. not for listening to music. that one works great due to the much higher frequencies.
14:56 <hsn93> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_(band)
15:06 <hsn93> xD
15:44 <hsn93> so why u have CB radio ?
16:13 <Ysjoelfir> for communicating with people while being on the road. and listening to funny conversations sometimes
16:28 <hsn93> oh nerds?
16:30 <hsn93> :D
16:33 <hsn93> like u ? :P
16:44 <Ysjoelfir> nah. more like... truckers
16:48 <Ysjoelfir> or construction workers
17:01 <Ysjoelfir> very few people use it nowadays, which is sad
17:01 <hsn93> ah its common
17:13 <hsn93> 27MHz?
17:17 <Ysjoelfir> its so much more convenient than using a handy in the car (which is forbidden)
17:39 <Ysjoelfir> 26.965 to 27.405MHz
18:07 <hsn93> handy is forbidden in the whole country
18:26 <hsn93> only large companies security get them here ..
18:42 <Ysjoelfir> I mean mobile phones. we call them handy in germany
19:11 <hsn93> ok... i ment walkie talkie
19:24 <Ysjoelfir> i noticed, which is why I clarified :)
19:43 <Ysjoelfir> why are walkie talkies forbidden at your place?
20:08 <hsn93> idk maybe they dont want secret communications
20:09 <hsn93> :D
20:27 <Ysjoelfir> maybe :D
21:43 <hsn93> if u import technical stuff from china some times u have to go clearance and u see big poster
21:48 <hsn93> of forbidden things
22:15 <hsn93> guns , drugs, fake passports, walkie talkies, drones
22:24 <hsn93> xD
22:34 <Ysjoelfir> the first one seem somehow obvious, but the other two....
22:44 <hsn93> and it look funny ^^ the last two
23:10 <Ysjoelfir> otoh, you explicitly arent allowed to take your handgrenade into a flight to the US. or your catapult.
23:35 <Ysjoelfir> which is sad. when I visited the family of my girlfriend in the US, I really wanted to take my catapult with me
24:37 <hsn93> u know the key-chain rfid tags?
24:48 <Ysjoelfir> yep, have one in my pocket
25:18 <hsn93> so one day i bought handreds of them from aliexpress
25:36 <hsn93> with usb rfid card reader
25:58 <hsn93> and the guy was saying (ok these are key chains) .. but what is this device
26:14 <hsn93> and i had to explain and he doesnt know what im saying ...
26:22 <hsn93> until he just said ok sign here and take it
28:09 <hsn93> maybe he thinks it read bank cards .. idk
33:47 <hsn93> why we still have (pilots) instructing to switch off mobile phones.. doesnt aerospace emc standards withstand the EMI from mobile phones anyway?
34:48 <Ysjoelfir> they do. but. just dont ask. :D
35:17 <hsn93> lol
35:48 <hsn93> was it fear from old days and we still carry it as instruction
35:55 <Ysjoelfir> i assume so
35:56 <hsn93> or its still serious thing
36:02 <Ysjoelfir> I highly doubt it
36:22 <hsn93> i see
38:53 <Halcyon> Evening all
39:33 <hsn93> evening Halcyon
40:17 <Halcyon> Howdy
44:32 <steve30> hi Halcyon
46:15 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
48:36 <Ysjoelfir> Hello Halcyon and steve30
48:52 <Halcyon> :)
03:02 <Halcyon> I have just discovered the best grilled cheese sandwich
04:11 <Halcyon> Get a non-stick pan, place slices of cheese directly onto the pan (or a mixture of cheese) in the shape of the bread. Allow to melt, then place the bread slice on top of the cheese. Leave it alone for a few minutes (or until the cheese starts to go really golden brown) then it's ready
04:29 <Halcyon> You could toast the other side too if you wanted to but I like it crispy/soft.
07:03 <Ysjoelfir> I do a variation of that sometimes, its realy great :)
07:16 <Halcyon> It's so simple
07:51 <Ysjoelfir> also, you can place little scoops of shredded cheese in the pan and let that crisp up. transfer to a paper towel to cool and suck up excessive fat and enjoy :)
08:03 <Halcyon> Yep that works too, little crispies
09:14 <Ysjoelfir> A workmate of mine yesterday showed me that I accidentally routed some wires in an inverse swastika in my current design ._. The german seems to be strong in me... >_>
09:40 <Halcyon> Heil!
10:05 <Ysjoelfir> yes! /:=|
10:07 <steve30> I should go out
10:11 <Halcyon> Hahah
10:18 <Halcyon> Ampera would like that emoji
10:20 <steve30> hehe
10:22 <Halcyon> Where you going Steve?
10:26 <steve30> Gym
10:34 <Halcyon> To work out or to perv?
11:02 <steve30> ...
11:04 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/kfSUtM.jpg see?
11:07 <steve30> hmm
11:29 <steve30> Well, if there are some hunks there I certainly wouldn't say know to bringing one home with me :)
11:30 <Halcyon> Yeh kind of. Your geometry is a bit out
11:58 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't noticed it either before he pointed it out to me
12:11 <Halcyon> My favourite is in Hogan's Heroes where they disguise a radio antenna to look like a swastika.
12:12 <Halcyon> Hahah
12:22 <Ysjoelfir> lol :D
12:29 * T3sl4 hugs /
12:30 <Halcyon> I forget which episode it was
12:32 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4 :)
12:43 <Ysjoelfir> Hi T3sl4
12:54 <Halcyon> I think so this day, Hogan's Heroes is one of my favourite series of all-time.
12:56 <Halcyon> *to
13:17 <T3sl4> you know noseeng!
13:33 <Halcyon> They are all dead now apart from Richard Clary
13:40 <Halcyon> (Who played Le Beau)
13:42 <Ysjoelfir> I watched it sometimes, but I'm just not the TV/Movie/Series kind of guy.
13:57 <Halcyon> I actually have an autographed book from Clary
14:04 <Ysjoelfir> Oh, and on the same design I also had a very serious/cute/hungry looking relay
14:29 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/9REBbt.jpg
14:49 <T3sl4> :3
15:01 <Ysjoelfir> exactly^^
15:21 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't change that one, I thought it looked cute
16:25 <Halcyon> All I see is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0UHjiT_7Qc
17:26 <Halcyon> No idea why your diagram reminded me of that
17:53 <T3sl4> whatever you say, birdbulb
18:17 <Halcyon> Fishbulb
18:22 <Ysjoelfir> xD
18:31 <T3sl4> but you're a bridbrain :D
18:42 <Halcyon> Birbs are S-M-R-T
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18:58 <Ysjoelfir> Smrrrrrt?
19:06 <Ysjoelfir> ok, that was to much for him :D
19:24 <Halcyon> Another Simpsons reference :P
21:06 <Ysjoelfir> oh, I assume its the scene where homer dances around, singing "I am so smart"? in german it is "Ich bin so klug! K - L - U - K!"
22:28 <T3sl4> heh
22:55 <Halcyon> Heheh *cluck*
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34:42 <Lemon> hello peeps
34:42 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Lemon!
35:08 <Ysjoelfir> you triggered it!
35:39 <Lemon> yeah I think saying hello once every 24h is enough or something like this :>
36:12 * T3sl4 gives Lemon some sugar
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37:57 <Lemonizer> hmmm
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39:50 <Lemonizer> hey Ysjoelfir have you seen those guidline devices ?
39:56 <Ysjoelfir> hm?
40:07 <Lemonizer> they make some resistance measurement devices
40:11 <Lemonizer> amongst other things
40:19 <Lemonizer> I saw one, 10.5 digit D:
40:38 <Lemonizer> with numbers like 0.001ppm everywhere
40:42 <Lemonizer> I dont want to know the price
40:55 <Lemonizer> http://www.guildline.com/primary-electrical-metrology/highest-level-standards/resistance-measurement-bridges/6622a-series-of-dcc
40:56 <Halcyon> Hey Lemonizer
40:58 <Halcyon> New name?
41:21 <Ysjoelfir> nice, you should save up for one :)
41:25 <Lemonizer> hey ! well not really its my second nick, somehow I get disconnected and login before the other disconnect
41:31 <Lemonizer> yeah sure
41:35 <Lemonizer> a whole life wont be enough xD
41:36 <Halcyon> :)
41:56 <Lemonizer> how much are those things, 6, 7 digits ?
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42:20 <Lemonizer> I cant find a price anywhere
46:09 <Ysjoelfir> I would assume mid 5 digit range
46:18 <Ysjoelfir> around what you pay for the devices we sell
47:12 <Lemonizer> just that ?
47:28 <Lemonizer> a freaking 10.5 digit device
47:53 <Lemonizer> I remember about that 110ghz, 256gs/s 4 or 8 ouput scope
47:56 <Ysjoelfir> digits arent everything
47:59 <Lemonizer> it was like, 1.3M I think
48:07 <Lemonizer> yeah I know but I checked the sheet
48:10 <Lemonizer> its insane !
48:15 <Ysjoelfir> well, is it?
48:40 <Lemonizer> the scope yes and the specs of that guidline were really incredible
49:07 <Lemonizer> it uses up to 10k amps
49:18 <Lemonizer> im really impressed
52:38 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/uxFkTSj.jpg
54:25 <Halcyon> Anyone want to buy me a 10Gbit switch?
54:33 <Halcyon> *smirk*
55:13 <T3sl4> also, Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/O3Amd0r.jpg
55:29 <Halcyon> Hahah birbs
55:32 <Lemonizer> hey I got mah fluke 101 !
55:55 <Halcyon> Meanwhile I'm watching Mike Jeavons making battered sausages... I didn't even know they were a thing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrMVAokaomM
56:33 <Lemonizer> my first fluke :>
57:11 <Halcyon> :)
57:27 <Lemonizer> its so cuteee !
58:01 <Lemonizer> I wanted a lil boi to move around, as I only have either VOMS or bench dmms
00:09 <Ysjoelfir> battered sausage... sounds great ^^
00:18 <Halcyon> It looks disgusting
00:18 <Lemonizer> ha I do have a portable dmm/scope
00:23 <Lemonizer> the ths710a but damn
00:29 <Lemonizer> heavy mofo, and batt is deadek
00:31 <Halcyon> Maybe if it was a nice German bratwurst?
00:40 <Lemonizer> I tried to revive it as it was at 2.4 volts out of 4.8 but nope
00:45 <Ysjoelfir> I assume it would. but how does it taste? Surely with a Bratwurst it would be way better!
01:00 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: Watch his video to find out
01:04 <Ysjoelfir> buy a new battery lemon :)
01:15 <Lemonizer> they are expensive :/
01:19 <Lemonizer> like 70 euros or so
01:25 <Lemonizer> I wanted to make one at this stage but well
01:31 <Lemonizer> its terribly out of cal
01:40 <Lemonizer> I dont know why
01:58 <Lemonizer> and the scope seems to have issues, for example the square wave ouput is acting wonky
03:20 <Halcyon> Tis thundery outside again
03:35 <Lemonizer> hmm the continuity test isnt the fastest haha
03:46 <Ysjoelfir> I will shortly. right now I am hunting a strange effect in my measurements. Maybe someone has an idea? I am measuring resistance over current. strangely, when I crank the current up, the resistance DROPS in an anti-exponential manner, and when I reduce it it jumps exponentially up again. very un-resistor-ish imho... and its way to fast to be something thermal.
03:52 <Ysjoelfir> then build one yourself lemon :D
04:01 <Ysjoelfir> I love thunder, send some over please, Halcyon :)
04:01 <Lemonizer> I thought about it
04:05 <Lemonizer> id love a ultra fast one
04:09 <Lemonizer> like, instantaneous !
04:35 <Halcyon> There you go Ysjoelfir: https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=en#m=oss;t=4;s=0;o=0;b=0.00;ts=0;z=9;y=-33.9559;x=150.2902;d=2;dl=5;dc=0;
04:38 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/vKV8Oa.jpg
04:45 <Ysjoelfir> nice, thanks :D
04:55 <Ysjoelfir> lol, I just read "Bratwurst" instead of "Bathurst"
05:06 <Halcyon> Mmmmmm Bathurst :P
05:37 <Lemonizer> hmmmmmm
05:45 <Lemonizer> so remember that 9v bat problem
05:48 <Ysjoelfir> someone any idea in regards of that resistance thing? the all knowing T3sl4 maybe? :)
06:02 <Lemonizer> where my tek would measure 9,20 something
06:10 <Lemonizer> systron 9.20
06:16 <Lemonizer> keithley 9.18
06:22 <Lemonizer> and now the fluke 9.17
06:27 <Lemonizer> I dont trust the tek at all
06:35 <Lemonizer> thats hard to determine who is off
06:35 <T3sl4> you're doing whatnow?
07:27 <Lemonizer> no wait the tek says 9.17-18 too
07:29 <Halcyon> T3sl4: He is measuring. Isn't that what guys do?
07:33 <Lemonizer> I fear it is the systron
07:46 <Lemonizer> im trying to determine which dmm got that 20mv offset
07:53 * T3sl4 twaps Halcyon on the wrists with a meter stick
08:01 <Lemonizer> I should buy a reference
08:04 <Halcyon> Yay! Metric!
08:06 <Lemonizer> like that one for 50 euros
10:06 <Lemonizer> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/LM399H-10V-Precision-voltage-Reference-Calibrated-LM399/254402062436?hash=item3b3b8b6864:g:RtsAAOSwPA1cOaqw
10:08 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4: basically measuring resistance of a circuit consisting of a PCB with not more than a few traces and a big power resistor. nothing more. no semis, nothing.
10:26 <Ysjoelfir> actually I was temperature testing that thing, but it
10:29 <Ysjoelfir> ...
10:40 <Ysjoelfir> but we noticed that strange behaviour
10:50 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon: get that thing, its ok
11:09 <Lemonizer> yeah but if I see one is offset
11:18 <Lemonizer> even if I build a hamon divider or something
11:22 <Lemonizer> it wont be enough to adjust it
11:40 <Lemonizer> if it was withing 1 year spec I wouldnt mind, even a tad more
11:50 <Lemonizer> but 20mv is a lot, even for a 4.5/5.5 digit dmm
12:05 <Lemonizer> the systron can reach 0.003+0.002 reading accuracy
12:14 <Lemonizer> its impressive for a small dmm like that
12:43 <Lemonizer> (I like that fluke 101 btw, cuty boi ! leads are ok, pvc meh but good)
14:20 <Lemonizer> when you adjust the 10v range, it doesnt change even a minimum the upper ranges ?
14:43 <hsn93> what are the lines connecting these lightenings ?
14:49 <hsn93> https://snipboard.io/KFzBLs.jpg ^^
15:12 <Halcyon> They are the individual detectors detecting each strike
15:53 <Halcyon> Each like is one detection and they essentually triangulate to determine the location of the actual strike (represented by the dot)
15:57 <Lemonizer> ho also I spotted that probe yesterday https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1374040920.htm/
16:19 <Lemonizer> I have two p2200 right now, I wonder if it will make a difference
16:34 <hsn93> so detectors detect from europe to australia ?
17:11 <Halcyon> I'm not too sure how they detect but I would imagine it's extremely low frequency, so thousands of kilometers isn't unusual
17:49 <hsn93> yeah
17:57 <Halcyon> If you look at this map: https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=en#m=oss;t=4;s=0;o=0;b=0.00;ts=0;z=4;y=-13.026;x=137.9004;d=2;dl=5;dc=0;
18:32 <Halcyon> You'll see detections from asia and Japan
18:46 <Halcyon> I guess anything further would be some kind of error?
19:59 <Halcyon> Although there looks to be a station in Mauritius which is picking up constant strikes? Maybe they have a very sensitive antenna?
20:09 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Was reading a news article on dinosaur footprints and saw this photo. Ok, what the heck is that device @a_romilio ? A Palaeontologist PKE meter? https://t.co/5DBXJNP36h
22:00 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon: The p2200 is basically the predecessor of the P2220. If you dont like the color of the 2200 you could consider an "update", but I wouldn't care.
22:14 <Lemonizer> yeah no differences
22:20 <Lemonizer> I got two of them with the 2245a !
22:23 <Lemonizer> a nice surprise
22:31 <Halcyon> This is the gear: http://en.blitzortung.org/cover_your_area.php
22:43 <Halcyon> Detects 3 to 30 kHz
22:53 <Lemonizer> I really hope I'll get the wavetek today !
22:58 <Lemonizer> I can;t wait to play with it :>
23:08 <Lemonizer> I never thought i'd be able to get such a device, seeing their prices
24:37 <Lemonizer> 143 euros for it + the systron and shipping was a steal
25:58 <hsn93> what happen if lightning hits lightning detector .. will it detect ?
25:59 <Ysjoelfir> that is cool Halcyon, I want one :D
26:15 <Halcyon> I enquired into them, they aren't cheap, but they only do small batches
26:38 <Ysjoelfir> meh. So no lightning detector for me^^
26:50 <Halcyon> I'm sure there are other products, but this is the nicest map I've found so far
27:17 <Lemonizer> ho Ysjoelfir, I saw a fluke 62 mini for 30 euros with shipping, what do you think about it for some measures around the house ?
27:28 <Lemonizer> is it accuracte to at least 0.2 degrees C ? or much less ?
27:48 <Ysjoelfir> I guess I will look further into it this evening. lets see how expensive it with the most DIY will get.
28:06 <Lemonizer> Id love to be able to measure temp within 0.1C accuracy
28:09 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon: those are ok, but you can get better ones from ali
28:14 <Ysjoelfir> for the same price
28:21 <Lemonizer> for 30 euros ?
28:25 <Ysjoelfir> sure
28:29 <Lemonizer> interesting !
28:35 <Lemonizer> 0.1C is achievable ?
28:38 <Lemonizer> for a bit more maybe
29:00 <Ysjoelfir> well, what for do you need .1°C? but yes, in my tests they were rather nice.
29:22 <Lemonizer> well for me that would be the acceptable limit
29:34 <Lemonizer> ho
29:49 <Lemonizer> I meant, accurate to 0.1C, like 30.1 or 53.4 for example
30:09 <Lemonizer> lets say it measures 53,4, its either in reality 53,3 or 53.5 max
30:21 <hsn93> so how (Lightning-prediction system) works? if the lightning didnt happen
30:29 <Ysjoelfir> sure
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32:08 <Halcyon> hsn93, I'm guessing there is a lot of noise and crap in that frequency range?
32:14 <Halcyon> False detections are a thing?
35:41 <Lemonizer> honestly for 33 euros delivered, im impressed with the fluke 101. it comes with two energizer batteries, its well made, feels great
35:59 <Lemonizer> you cant measure current but well if you really need it, a shunt could do the trick I guess
36:49 <Lemonizer> probes are also alright
45:26 <hsn93> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Evolving_Heliophysics_System_Observatory.jpg << what is this purple field around the earth that has wierd shape
45:35 <hsn93> like a spider
49:37 <hsn93> The solar wind is a stream of charged particles released from the upper atmosphere of the Sun, called the corona
49:43 <hsn93> aaah thats the virus
49:45 <hsn93> source
49:52 <Lemonizer> no, the beer !
50:00 <hsn93> combined
50:07 <hsn93> it hits the bear first
55:03 <hsn93> so earth has magnatic field.. that faces (solar wind)[which is h field?] .. and variation of the solar wind [H] [hitting the earth B field] causes what is called [geomagnatic storm] ??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_storm
56:35 <Ysjoelfir> I heard beer? where? which one? how much?
56:55 <Lemonizer> do you know the 'paix dieu' ?
57:04 <Ysjoelfir> nope
57:05 <Lemonizer> a white beer, wonderful
57:10 <Lemonizer> hard to find but wonderful
57:23 <Lemonizer> its at maybe 9-10 degrees but you drink it like milk
57:31 <hsn93> lemon beer
04:47 <Ysjoelfir> beer that is white? sounds strange but interesting :D
07:23 <Lemonizer> maybe its not the good term
08:05 <Lemonizer> https://www.latelierdesbieres.fr/bieres-vendues-en-carton-plein/2320-blanche-des-neiges-33-cl-carton-de-24-bouteilles.html
08:08 <Lemonizer> heres one for example
09:27 <T3sl4> nice, someone animated it https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/f5d1mm/code_is_fully_functional_and_ready_to_be_pushed/
09:31 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
13:05 <Ysjoelfir> you tend to pack every nice beverage in a kind of wine-ish bottle, don't you? :D
13:35 <Ysjoelfir> lol @ t3sl4
13:51 <Lemonizer> good beers tend to be like that yeah
14:01 <Lemonizer> but white beers, if you never tried one
14:05 <Lemonizer> you really should !
14:45 <Ysjoelfir> if it is what we would call a Hefeweizen or just a Weizen or Weißbier (literaly translates to white beer) I am pretty sure I will enjoy it
15:05 <Lemonizer> weissbier yeah
15:17 <Lemonizer> they are light but strong at the same time
15:21 <Lemonizer> its hard to describe
16:28 <Ysjoelfir> its not bitter but very..... malty? grainy? not texture wise, but taste wise
16:37 <Ysjoelfir> it tastes strong like wheat
17:01 <Lemonizer> I lack the vocabular, but it depends on the beer really :>
17:08 <Lemonizer> they can be really different but they are light
17:12 <Lemonizer> easy to drink
17:17 <Lemonizer> some can reach 10 degrees
17:19 <Lemonizer> but its rare
17:28 <T3sl4> mmm, beer
18:22 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to have one now
18:30 <Ysjoelfir> still thinking about that damn resistor shit oO
18:49 <Lemonizer> heh
18:57 <Lemonizer> I want mah wavetekkkkk
19:06 <Lemonizer> I should have got it like, yesterday
21:20 * Ysjoelfir waves a pendulum before lemons eyes
21:26 <Ysjoelfir> you want alllll my current clamps!
21:32 * Ysjoelfir waves more
21:41 <Lemonizer> haha well I really want an analog one honestly :P
21:43 <Lemonizer> that would be easier
21:48 <Ysjoelfir> you are a rich french guy and want to give me much money for iiiiiitttttt
21:52 <Lemonizer> an amprobe rs-1
21:59 <Lemonizer> or an old chauvin arnoux
22:12 <Lemonizer> two guys were about to sell me one but they stop responding
23:14 <Lemonizer> but im sure you got other things for sale i'd love :>
25:23 <Lemonizer> on the things I want along with that analog current clamp, is an electrometer, null meter, a vtvm
25:34 <Lemonizer> and maybe other things I dont even know that I want them :P
27:26 <Ysjoelfir> I heard you need more PSUs
27:43 <Lemonizer> ho not really, but if you got a nice cheap one :> who knows !
27:51 <Ysjoelfir> like, a Gossen Konstanter, or a TTI, or a quadruple (one channel broken) 400V x00mA switcher
27:53 <Lemonizer> linear ones mostly
27:59 <Lemonizer> I fear the price
28:10 <Lemonizer> how much do you want for those ?
28:55 <Ysjoelfir> I can tell you when I'm done with the WW2 Radio and did some cleanup, right now there is my rollable desk in the way so I can't look at them and ask them how much they feel they are worth
29:17 <Lemonizer> haha ok :> just an idea maybe ?
29:27 <Lemonizer> im sure its out of my budget
30:34 <Ysjoelfir> pff... I paid 100 for each of the 400V thingies (i have two, thats why one can go), 190 for the TTI and 90 for the gossen, IIRC
30:39 <Ysjoelfir> (lunch time! brb)
31:11 <Lemonizer> have a good meal ! ok I see :>
40:04 <K> hello
40:18 <Lemonizer> hey
40:37 <Lemonizer> thats funny, im eating cereals named 'K'
41:56 <K> cereal with "Special K"?
42:01 <Lemonizer> yeah !
42:06 <Lemonizer> originals :>
42:17 <K> glorious!
42:22 <Lemonizer> eating them with my bare hands out of the box
42:28 <Lemonizer> like the fucker I am
42:33 <K> savage
42:53 <Lemonizer> I love those with some chocolate
44:46 <Lemonizer> I got my fluke 101 today, really happy about this lil boi
47:00 <K> did you register with the TEA support group already?
47:39 <Lemonizer> im on the discord but its quiet :>
47:51 <Lemonizer> man I cant wait to get my wavetek 164 !!!
47:58 <Lemonizer> I should have got it yesterday already
48:51 <Lemonizer> it was such a nice score, I never thought I'd get such a device, seeing their prices
49:49 <Lemonizer> I saw some sell for over 350 euros
49:56 <Lemonizer> 400+ for some
50:54 <Lemonizer> I paid 143 for it + a systron donner 5.5 digit dmm, including shipping
58:51 <Lemonizer> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/TESTED-SOLARTRON-SCHLUMBERGER-7081-PRECISION-VOLTMETER-110-120-220-240-V-40VA/233042690004?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140423084956%26meid%3Df6d2d253f2804960b62a4fc0faac931e%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D7%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D153595514609%26itm%3D233042690004%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2045573&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042
58:56 <Lemonizer> I'd love one honestly
07:20 Quit: Lemonizer ([email protected]) EOF from client
10:59 <rust_collector> pom pom pom bom bom bom
18:29 <Ysjoelfir> Thats another brand of the brands I want to have someday ;)
18:37 <Ysjoelfir> Hi rusty
19:12 <rust_collector> interesting greeting to you
25:11 <rust_collector> what is happening this wonderful summer day?
33:01 <hsn93> ah, some videos in youtube are running on one speaker only .. is there easy way to say that this is mono so pc just duplicate it to second speaker not as stereo ?
34:07 <rust_collector> heh, I only have one speaker, so I want everything mono
35:54 <hsn93> oh it exist
36:22 <hsn93> https://snipboard.io/lupiAb.jpg
36:35 <hsn93> i have headset
36:45 <rust_collector> I have half a headset
37:13 <rust_collector> well, that is one thing I can like about that version of windows, I guess
37:31 <Ampera> good morning
37:40 <Ampera> I must say this channel's been impressively active
38:10 <rust_collector> I was at work, it will probably be back to normal now
38:57 <rust_collector> see?
39:21 <hsn93> o_o
41:13 <rust_collector> what windows is that anyway?
41:51 <Ysjoelfir> Hi again Halcyon :)
42:02 <hsn93> 10
42:04 <hsn93> win 10
42:13 <rust_collector> hmm ok
42:31 <hsn93> there is no (uname) so it takes time to extract that info
42:32 <hsn93> :P
43:08 <rust_collector> nah, it is ok, I just do not remember what 7.8.10 looks like
44:05 <hsn93> https://snipboard.io/qeV1tN.jpg
44:13 <hsn93> i love this windows new terminal ^
44:22 <Ampera> blech well I should about get ready to go to work
44:33 <Ampera> I did close to 250 test cases yesterday
44:40 <Ysjoelfir> Moin Ampera, have a nice day at work :)
44:47 <Ampera> danke
44:58 <hsn93> danken ?
45:04 <rust_collector> have fun if you can
45:31 <hsn93> ampera is always having fun
45:40 <Ampera> ^
45:46 <rust_collector> what terminal?
46:21 <hsn93> wait rust_collector i've to show u the video ^
46:39 <hsn93> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gw0rXPMMPE
48:07 <rust_collector> ok. does it do anything new? I see tabs...
49:19 <hsn93> hmm idk its still beta
49:28 <hsn93> https://github.com/microsoft/terminal
50:34 <hsn93> i use it with Windows subsystem linux ^
52:30 <hsn93> https://snipboard.io/kbw5WN.jpg
54:12 <rust_collector> well, ok. I think that was enough for one day
55:03 <hsn93> dont get polluted ? :P
55:34 <hsn93> microsoft: ok we cant fight linux lets contain it to prevent people jumping to it ..
55:40 <rust_collector> I used to try every now and then, but I think I am almost immune now
55:44 <hsn93> thats how i see it .. it worked on me
59:09 <hsn93> this guy is math guru @3Blue1Brown ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjBOesZCoqc
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