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00:00:41 <T3sl4> not so much running that way as, a surge is so much larger than normal operation
00:03:14 <hsn993> ok cool thanks
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02:07:01 <rust_collector> morning!!!
02:07:23 <steve30> o/
02:16:23 <hsn> morning rusty
02:18:49 <rust_collector> hello mr you, and mr you
02:22:11 <rust_collector> hmm, has anything happened today?
02:30:52 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzwxeHtS1QI
02:31:49 <rust_collector> no, maybe this one
02:32:21 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_MwTFH0kpw
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03:23:56 <rust_collector> hey orange
03:24:27 <Lemon> yo rusty !
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03:24:33 <Lemon> how you doing
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03:24:52 <rust_collector> I am doing nothing, but slowly
03:25:10 <Lemon> good good
03:25:49 <rust_collector> better to be careful and all that crap
03:26:08 <Lemon> yeah thats why I rarely leave my desk
03:26:12 <Lemon> who knows whats behind
03:26:39 <rust_collector> it could be 300 kittens
03:27:00 <Lemon> ho maybe not 300 but a few is possible here
03:27:03 <Lemon> better take care
03:27:18 <rust_collector> yeah, put your boots on
03:27:23 <Lemon> you know what popped on my dear leboncoin today ?
03:27:32 <rust_collector> you?
03:27:37 <Lemon> better
03:27:42 <Lemon> a keithley 610B
03:27:52 <Lemon> I was talking about the C version yesterday
03:28:05 <Lemon> the analog electrometer than can measure down to femto amps, up to 100 teraohms etc
03:28:30 <Lemon> this version uses a tube I believe
03:29:48 <Lemon> those electrometers are quite rare and expensive usually, his is in pretty good shape, and he wants 85 euros for it
03:29:57 <Lemon> but on forums Ive read that its quite picky
03:30:45 <rust_collector> mmkay
03:30:58 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1744745901.htm/
03:32:52 <Lemon> its a neat thing but well its 85 euros, I already spent quite a lot those last days
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03:33:15 <rust_collector> yeah, but this thing is non-ugly
03:33:29 <Lemon> and damn, up to 100 tera ohms
03:33:31 <Lemon> thats something
03:34:36 <rust_collector> yesm not much but something
03:34:56 <Lemon> the accuracy must be something too at that range lol
03:36:34 <rust_collector> you can probably measure how wrong you do things
03:38:51 <Lemon> farting in the room is enough to move the needle im sure
03:39:39 <Lemon> I learnt something interesting about vom and input impedance
03:40:03 <Lemon> some old circuits were made with 20kohms/volts
03:40:25 <rust_collector> yes
03:40:26 <Lemon> where now, most dmm are 10mohm
03:40:39 <Lemon> so those recent dmm applies basically no load to the circuit
03:40:50 <Lemon> so if you use the wrong kind of meter, you can read false values
03:40:56 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQokmQpuweg
03:42:18 <Lemon> I think thats how active probes works no ?
03:42:28 <rust_collector> probably
03:42:58 <Lemon> so now I need one of each kind of meter
03:43:01 <rust_collector> I have no idea. My education was about destruction
03:43:03 <Lemon> 10k, 20k, 50k, 100k...
03:43:04 <Lemon> haha
03:43:25 <rust_collector> so if you want to blow something up, or something...
03:43:47 <Lemon> heh I had a quite neat experience with potato air guns
03:43:58 <Lemon> well, air guns as I was rarely using potatoes at all
03:44:06 <Lemon> but rather steel balls
03:45:32 <Lemon> chlorydric acid with aluminium foil in bottles too
03:46:52 <rust_collector> chlorydric? is that the same as hydrochloric?
03:47:16 <Lemon> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acide_chlorhydrique
03:47:24 <Lemon> idk if you can turn it in english
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03:47:58 <Lemon> hey Ysjoelfir
03:48:47 <rust_collector> I dunno, I think he will be banned for a bit, if he does not stop joining and quitting all the time.
03:49:00 <Lemon> ho you can get banned for that ?
03:49:15 <rust_collector> if it is annoying enough
03:50:01 <Lemon> I blame him for showing me those hartmann and braun voms
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03:51:04 <rust_collector> yes, he can be sort of a dick some times. he will find your weakness, and really do all he can with it, or to you, or...
03:51:26 <Lemon> thats how my decay started
03:55:29 <Lemon> I cant wait to receive mines
03:55:35 <Lemon> especially the triplett
03:56:37 <Lemon> well the HB and micronta too I must admit
03:56:39 <Lemon> I love em all
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04:07:10 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVDWN_bpeac
04:07:34 <Lemon> ho I think I saw this one at least 10 times
04:08:11 <rust_collector> I am not going to china, I think
04:10:01 <rust_collector> otoh, I really hope it is a place where they have to go back the same way, lol
04:10:26 <Lemon> :>
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06:07:58 <Lemon> rust_collector so I asked the guy with the 610B why the supply cable was cut short, he told me 'ho I remember I needed a cable for a quick project, so I took it there'
06:08:06 <Lemon> Incredible
06:08:27 <rust_collector> it is what happens. you need a thing you have...
06:08:48 <Lemon> 'ho yeah I cut a piece from the roof of my ferrari to make a quick camping table'
06:10:40 <rust_collector> if i had lots of money, I would buy a very rare sportscar, fit chains, and only use it in winter
06:11:00 <Lemon> well at least you dont destroy it :>
06:11:07 <rust_collector> I hope the chains mess up the wheel arches
06:11:59 <rust_collector> and, driving anything here in winter is the same as destroying it. you might as well just throw it in the ocean
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06:13:45 <Lemon> you know I like art, but im more sensible at old objects
06:14:05 <Lemon> it can be those multimeters, or any old thing that got an history
06:15:36 <rust_collector> I like normal old cars. sportscars are just boring
06:15:50 <Lemon> yeah me too
06:16:02 <Lemon> I prefer a good old volvo to a recent lambo for example
06:19:45 <rust_collector> I want a lada station wagon
06:19:58 <rust_collector> It makes almost no sense, but...
06:20:10 <Lemon> understandable
06:21:14 <rust_collector> but, that will probably not happen up here. they are pretty rare now, and expensive.
06:21:49 <rust_collector> I dunno. maybe. my neighbor is russian, and the wifes aunt is russian. Maybe I will ask them to look for one
06:22:13 <rust_collector> But I am not sure about importing...anything from russia
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07:12:22 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> hi
07:12:29 <rust_collector> hey-o
07:12:49 <rust_collector> are you walking in and out of tunnels all day?
07:13:18 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> Not, Why?
07:13:30 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> *no
07:13:42 <rust_collector> you are reconnecting and quitting, and connecting all the time
07:14:01 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> dafuck... seriously?
07:14:08 <Ampera> aye
07:14:11 <rust_collector> yup
07:14:16 <Ampera> 'tis why a ZNC is not a bad idea
07:14:23 <coppice_> wanting a lada shows a massive masochistic trait
07:14:43 <rust_collector> as usual, mr coppice_ makes too much sense
07:14:53 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> it's installed on the tablet that basically just sits on the shelve. maybe I should quit the app
07:15:03 <coppice_> not as masochistic as wanting the bills for a lambo, but still masochistic
07:15:05 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> I want a lada
07:15:42 <Ampera> on the bright side if you crash it, whatever you hit will be dead and destroyed.
07:15:49 <rust_collector> then we can go to lada meetings, and have a spanking session in the banya
07:16:33 <Ampera> if I could have any strange car....
07:16:39 <rust_collector> I think most ladas that has survived until now should be... tenderized? probably much softer than they used to be, lol
07:16:42 <Ampera> I'd pick a Lagonda (Aston Martin)
07:16:51 <rust_collector> heh
07:16:54 <Ampera> Or one of the GM cars with the full VFD dashes
07:17:10 <rust_collector> hmm, the... uh
07:17:12 <Ampera> so I can pretend I am in the postmodern cyberpunk future of 1983
07:17:13 <rust_collector> fiero?
07:17:48 <Ampera> One of the 8.6L V8 Cadillacs would be neat
07:18:03 <Ampera> even though the fuel consumption on those are measured in gallons per mile
07:18:04 <rust_collector> what 8.6l caddy?
07:18:05 <coppice_> My car was parked next to an Aston Martin Vantage today. Its a while since I saw one up close, and I'd forgotten how small they look in real life
07:18:07 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> well... if you own an oil well, sure
07:18:25 <Ampera> rust_collector, whichever one is the most obnoxious and stupid
07:18:45 <coppice_> Those VFD dashes always looked terrible
07:18:51 <Ampera> the point being, I want to drench a giant fucking engine in fuel and have it spit out 180 hp if I'm lucky
07:19:00 <rust_collector> oh. but I believe you are thinking about the 500cui 8.2l, I think
07:19:14 <Ampera> could have sworn they made an 8.6l
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07:20:18 <rust_collector> the 472 and 500 is a pretty ok engine. they make tons and tons of torque, but the valvetrain does not handle much more than 4500rpm
07:20:50 <rust_collector> put a pair of turbos on one... should be fun
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07:22:20 <rust_collector> hmm, also, the stock pistons weigh about the same as a honda 1.6 engine, with gearbox. at least it feels like it
07:22:41 <rust_collector> so low rpm is probably ok
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07:31:27 <Lemon> im hesitating to take the prema 6000, and either keep it or flip it
07:32:05 <Lemon> 75 euros + maybe 10 for shipping for a 6.5 digits, 0.005% dc accuracy after 1 year, is pretty neat
07:32:20 <Lemon> it can also measure from -200 to 850 degrees with a pt100 sensor
07:32:28 <Lemon> with 0.01C resolution
07:33:11 <rust_collector> are you trying to grow some kind of bacteria or something?
07:33:29 <Lemon> haha well im sure they grow without me trying
07:33:36 <rust_collector> yea
07:33:41 <Lemon> but admit it, its hard to pass on that one
07:33:48 <rust_collector> so just buy it
07:33:49 <Lemon> 85 euros for a 6,5 digit common
07:34:08 <Lemon> the only thing lacking is ohm measurements
07:34:14 <Lemon> it only goes up to 10Mohm
07:34:25 <Lemon> but meh thats fine
07:34:39 <rust_collector> yeah, lacking. that is horrible, how can they sell that crap
07:34:53 <Lemon> unacceptable
07:35:37 <rust_collector> so, you get it on monday?
07:35:49 <Lemon> but we are monday
07:35:59 <rust_collector> friday?
07:36:21 <Lemon> if I buy it now ? well, if the dude is fast enough, maybe thursday
07:36:37 <Lemon> I think I will take it, its too nice of a deal
07:36:48 <Lemon> even Dave made a video, 'getting a 6.5 digit under 200 dollars'
07:36:59 <rust_collector> I dunno how the french post do things. I just assumed they were on strike
07:36:59 <Lemon> there werent many
07:37:08 <Lemon> ho I dont use the post
07:37:13 <Lemon> I use mondial relay
07:37:25 <Lemon> its a service that goes from shops to shops
07:37:33 <Lemon> the post is simply out of price
07:37:42 <Lemon> especially for boat anchors
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07:45:49 <Lemon> rust_collector so a prema 6000 sold for 555 euros on ebay, a 5000 for 325
07:45:57 <Lemon> I think I'll buy it :>
07:46:20 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> Do it
07:46:29 <Lemon> shit yes
07:46:36 <Lemon> 85 euros with shipping it iis
07:46:36 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> prema 6k for that price is a bargain
07:46:55 <Lemon> its in pretty nice shape, just some tape leftovers here and there
07:46:57 <Lemon> but thatts nothing
07:47:31 <Lemon> https://img0.leboncoin.fr/ad-large/578e3fd0b3884bc12bb9235bae261286e114570c.jpg
07:48:35 <Lemon> ho and heres the current clamp I ended up getting, rust_collector for 5 euros more, this one is 100% working, and comes with this really neat leather pouch
07:48:48 <Lemon> and it looks like it got an happy face lol
07:49:14 <Lemon> Ysjoelfir-mobil am I right about those prices ? it sells for a couple hundreds usually ?
07:53:41 <Lemon> I mean it was on ebay but could have been a one off
07:54:28 <Lemon> ho shit, its the same dude that sells the 610B haha
07:54:30 <Lemon> I havent noticed
07:55:18 <Lemon> he sells some pretty nice stuff, like a Marconi Andret voltage standard, 1uV to 110V, 0.001% accuracy for 450 euros (a bit over my budget :> )
07:55:44 <Lemon> Adret not Andret
07:56:21 <Lemon> a lecroy scope 1ghz 4 channel, 8gs/s for 1,2k euros
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08:00:05 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> jeep, it's usually way more expensive
08:14:57 <rust_collector> what 5 more clamp?
08:21:42 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/1743792979.htm/
08:21:44 <Lemon> I took this one :>
08:22:03 <Lemon> yeah that 450 euros standard is nuts, but its far too expensive for me
08:23:04 <Lemon> wow I just saw it for 4995 euros renewed
08:23:58 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1744745001.htm/
08:25:54 <rust_collector> that clamp is cute
08:26:06 <Lemon> yeah, and it got a happy face !
08:27:23 <rust_collector> you should have one of those... uhm. arrrgh.
08:27:39 <Lemon> hmmmm ?
08:27:40 <rust_collector> the one thing does almost something, educational
08:28:01 <rust_collector> I can almost remember the name
08:29:24 <rust_collector> nope, I can not remember
08:29:45 <Lemon> what is it doing ?
08:30:25 <rust_collector> it hooks up to a pc, and is a scope and logic analyzer, and all kinds of things in one.
08:30:37 <rust_collector> there is an old version, and a 2 version
08:30:39 <rust_collector> heh
08:30:55 <Lemon> I have no idea !
08:30:57 <rust_collector> it is sort of the opposite of what you are getting now
08:31:04 <rust_collector> you need balance
08:31:17 <rust_collector> Oh, have you grounded yourself today?
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08:31:24 <Lemon> I thought about a logic analyzer, but I dont have the use for it right now
08:31:28 <Lemon> ofc !
08:31:33 <Lemon> I ground myself all the time
08:32:16 <rust_collector> analog discovery (2)
08:32:59 <Lemon> ho thats a fun unit
08:33:06 <Lemon> it does a bit of everything yeah
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08:33:55 <rust_collector> there is especially one guy on the forum that mentions it every time he can, and I guess he has a point
08:34:24 <Lemon> its interesting
08:35:19 <Lemon> I really want to build voltage/resistance standard
08:35:31 <Lemon> and why not current standards too
08:35:58 <rust_collector> obsolete standards are more my thing
08:36:27 <coppice_> why do so many people have this fascination with standards and super accurate meters?
08:36:45 <Lemon> I dont know but it kind of amazes me :>
08:36:55 <rust_collector> The wife bought my meter on wish, I think
08:37:00 <Lemon> especially knowing that those things older than me are so accurate
08:37:15 <Lemon> especially for the price I pay for them
08:39:00 <rust_collector> I just happen to like the red plasticky looking plastic uni-trend uses, ok?
08:39:18 <Lemon> thats alright
08:39:24 <Lemon> you can even start a uni t collection !
08:39:38 <rust_collector> yeah, until now, I have
08:39:39 <rust_collector> 1
08:39:55 <Lemon> thats a good start :>
08:40:09 <Lemon> also, a goal I have is to build those standards to calibrate my tools
08:40:09 <coppice_> uni-t is a strange company. they make such an odd mix of nicely engineered and really crappy products
08:40:26 <rust_collector> a little pocket meter. it is just so cute, for being a cheap dmm
08:40:51 <Lemon> but is it 70 y/o analog volt meter cute ?
08:41:16 <rust_collector> if most of your examples is anything to go by, hell yes
08:41:55 <Lemon> I find those triplett, h&b etc so beautiful
08:42:07 <rust_collector> well, that is good for you
08:42:16 <Lemon> you said they were beautiful too !
08:42:18 <rust_collector> and them, I guess
08:42:36 <rust_collector> now I think you are imagining things
08:42:42 <rust_collector> some of them look ok
08:43:01 <rust_collector> some are pretty nice looking, except that ugly bakelite
08:43:11 <Lemon> the bakelite is arguable I admit
08:43:22 <Lemon> I like it but I can understand that one prefer metal :> I do prefer it too
08:43:52 <rust_collector> I think I just like 60s and later looks
08:44:11 <Lemon> theres one I really like too, the avometer
08:44:18 <Lemon> the 1940s one I think
08:44:39 <Lemon> https://www.radiomuseum.org/images/radio/avo_ltd_london/universal_avometer_2387853.jpg
08:44:42 <Lemon> those for example
08:45:09 <Lemon> poor dudes, 3kg for a handheld meter
08:45:12 <coppice_> no Avo was ever beautiful or cute
08:45:27 <Lemon> pfff its even more than that !
08:45:36 <Lemon> build like a freaking tank
08:45:45 <coppice_> actually, they break a lot
08:45:57 <rust_collector> yeah, I think we commented on the french tanks the other day?
08:45:58 <coppice_> the look tougher than they are
08:46:01 <Lemon> really ? I know some more recent are made of plastic
08:46:33 <rust_collector> many kinds of plastic
08:46:42 <Lemon> did I say 'built like a french tank' ? :>
08:47:42 <rust_collector> not specifically, but I had to assume you did not have access to modern german tanks to campare to
08:47:56 <rust_collector> campare.... yeah
08:47:56 <Lemon> lets say its just an image
08:48:05 <coppice_> Lemon: one forward gear, and 5 reverse?
08:48:14 <rust_collector> that is the italian tanks
08:48:31 <Lemon> yeah we have no forward
08:48:50 <MrMobodies> Hello
08:48:50 <EEVBlog> Hello there, MrMobodies!
08:48:54 <MrMobodies> that front of the voltmeter above. It reminds me of similar ones used in old power plants.
08:48:59 <MrMobodies> Excellent the bot
08:49:00 <Lemon> did you know that some old jaguars can go up to 90kph in reverse ?
08:49:03 <Lemon> hello !
08:49:28 <coppice_> an old Daf can go faster than that in reverse
08:49:35 <rust_collector> I know a 1984 toyota camry 1.8dx will do pretty exactly 70 backwards
08:49:36 <MrMobodies> 55 miles per hour
08:49:38 <MrMobodies> thats fast
08:49:46 <MrMobodies> in reverse I mean
08:50:07 <coppice_> Dafs could go at the same speed in either direction
08:50:22 <rust_collector> yeah, as long as the belt was dry, lol
08:50:28 <Lemon> gotta handle it carefully at almost 100kph reverse lol
08:51:21 <coppice_> and they could outrun the best Ferrari of their day.... over the first few metres
08:51:46 <Lemon> thats something !
08:52:09 <MrMobodies> Toyota Camry can outperform a Ferrari at that time
08:52:27 <MrMobodies> I knew their cars were rock solid back then
08:52:28 <rust_collector> Daf was always a bit different... I wonder what they would do now, if they did not get sold
08:54:43 <MrMobodies> I got an old laptop back to look at from a pensioner living closeby. It is a Packard Bell LJ71. Corrosion on the network card, I am testing it now but there are so many faulty boards on ebay
08:54:48 <MrMobodies> not a good sign
08:54:55 <MrMobodies> the pcb bends a lot
08:55:13 <Lemon> haaa packard bell's
08:55:21 <MrMobodies> it was sold to him by that man who tried to attack me
08:55:25 <Lemon> how many packard bells came there for my father to fix
08:55:31 <MrMobodies> on the hard drive first installed in 2009 march
08:55:43 <MrMobodies> it last worked in december 2019
08:55:51 <MrMobodies> it is an old one with DDR2
08:56:07 <MrMobodies> I swapped out modules and it turne don
08:56:11 <MrMobodies> but artifacts appeared
08:56:31 <MrMobodies> someone else look at it and forgot to put the screws back which left the screen wobbling
08:57:05 <MrMobodies> he had another laptop which he was getting redirecred on Chrome
08:57:15 <MrMobodies> I changed the DNS settings to Google and it stopped
08:57:19 <rust_collector> haha, perfect
08:57:39 <MrMobodies> I offered to reinstall the whole thing... free as he was a pensioner and he looked after it
08:57:59 <MrMobodies> and in front of him
08:58:26 <MrMobodies> I cleaned his keyboard and left some alcohol wipes
08:58:35 <MrMobodies> absolutely flithy
08:58:58 <MrMobodies> Sometimes my stuff gets like that without realizing over time
08:59:04 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> lemon?
08:59:10 <Lemon> yes ?
08:59:38 <MrMobodies> aah lemons, I could use it to clean keyboards
08:59:43 <MrMobodies> than pay for wipes
08:59:52 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> what means "fixation pour lemon haut" on the new windshield wipers I bought for my mum?
09:00:12 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> le
09:00:25 <Lemon> fixation pour le haut ?
09:00:33 <Lemon> lemon haut
09:00:34 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> yes
09:01:43 <Lemon> hmmm mounting/attachement for the upper part ?
09:02:00 <Lemon> Id say that
09:02:45 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> i guess they mean s.th. like using the original upper part of the wiper? oh by the way, haut is the German word for skin. so I have to mount those wipers using your skin?
09:02:49 <Lemon> fixation = the part where something is attached to
09:03:50 <Lemon> hmmm maybe yes ! haha well, haut = up here :>
09:04:11 <Lemon> pour le haut = on top
09:04:16 <Lemon> thats always hard to translate
09:04:18 <rust_collector> scalp
09:04:33 <Ysjoelfir-mobil> I'm wondering why Bosch only provides French instructions on those...
09:04:50 <Lemon> I fluently read/speak english, I can watch pretty much anything without any subtitles, and I get every single word, but I always struggle to translate from french to english
09:05:44 <rust_collector> the burmese market is not big enough to bother translating to
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09:06:33 <MrMobodies> Are you French?
09:06:53 <MrMobodies> Can you make great cakes?
09:06:58 <rust_collector> everyone is a little bit french
09:07:12 <coppice_> NO WE AREN'T
09:07:24 <rust_collector> see?
09:08:02 <MrMobodies> There was cafe I went to and they make chocolate eclairs most of it was chocolate.
09:08:09 <MrMobodies> inside and out
09:08:21 <MrMobodies> they were french and very filling
09:08:28 <MrMobodies> best part of town
09:08:44 <Lemon> I can't make cakes for shit
09:08:51 <MrMobodies> they use to make my birthdays cakes
09:08:57 <Lemon> I can decently cook but cakes hmmm not really
09:09:00 <MrMobodies> with strawberry mouse
09:09:11 <MrMobodies> they dipped the spounge in honey
09:09:17 <MrMobodies> and maripan on the top
09:09:35 <MrMobodies> go into Sainsburys and they put a lousy bit of cream ontop
09:09:43 <MrMobodies> with tiny bit of chocolate
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09:10:06 <MrMobodies> oh sorry Sainsbur's a British supermarket
09:10:21 <rust_collector> that is not your fault
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09:11:17 <MrMobodies> unfortunately I got addicted and had stop going
09:11:37 <MrMobodies> I was spending pounds to put on pounds of weight
09:11:39 <rust_collector> ah, the special brownie syndrome
09:12:14 <MrMobodies> I have not taken cannibis before
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09:12:28 <rust_collector> well, not as far as you know, maybe
09:12:44 <MrMobodies> maybe they put it in
09:12:49 <MrMobodies> without me knowing
09:12:55 <rust_collector> you never know
09:13:00 <MrMobodies> no wonder I felt good when leaving
09:13:06 <rust_collector> mmhmm
09:13:24 <MrMobodies> chocolate eclairs with chocolate in them, vegetable fat
09:13:37 <rust_collector> I am so glad I do not put on pounds
09:13:41 <MrMobodies> Round strawberry mouse with atiny bit of spounge dipped in honey
09:13:51 <MrMobodies> sasuages in pastry
09:13:54 <MrMobodies> all baked there
09:14:29 <MrMobodies> quiche lorraine and pizzary kind of stuff
09:14:35 <Lemon> tommorow I put my laptop for sale online
09:14:40 <MrMobodies> but they had mushrooms all over it and I don't mushrooms
09:14:57 <rust_collector> what is this laptop?
09:15:03 <MrMobodies> price?
09:16:20 <rust_collector> I do not mushroom, and I don't strawberry either. and not much seafood, no insects...
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09:16:34 <rust_collector> Lemon, what is this laptop?
09:17:08 <Lemon> a g502vs, 16gb ddr4, i7 6700hq, gtx 1070, gsync 60hz 1080p panel in almost mint condition
09:17:16 <Lemon> 1tb hdd and 256 m2 ssd
09:17:28 <Lemon> im not using it anymore now that I have my workstation
09:17:40 <rust_collector> eeeh, asus
09:17:41 <MrMobodies> SOunds like a gooden
09:18:02 <Lemon> ho its really neat, besides the overheating problem that I had to fix by repasting it with proper paste/pads
09:18:03 <MrMobodies> with the specifications i mean
09:18:16 <MrMobodies> oh that, cheap curmbly tape they put on
09:18:25 <Lemon> toothpaste everywhere
09:18:28 <MrMobodies> I thought that was the thing of the past
09:18:38 <MrMobodies> Dell use to do that in 2006
09:18:49 <rust_collector> I bet the tape is still easier to do in the factory
09:19:01 <MrMobodies> I came across something
09:19:07 <Lemon> yeah on a 2k euros laptop they really stinks
09:19:08 <MrMobodies> there would be gap
09:19:16 <MrMobodies> inbetween the northbridge
09:19:28 <MrMobodies> and no gap where the cpu is on the heatpipe where it dips
09:19:39 <MrMobodies> so sometimes trial an error to test copper shims
09:19:47 <MrMobodies> as the tape seems too flexible
09:19:49 <Lemon> yeah sometimes its not flat
09:19:52 <MrMobodies> and worn under a caliper
09:19:55 <Lemon> so theres a bad thermal transfer
09:20:07 <MrMobodies> I came across that
09:20:18 <MrMobodies> it would be too high on idle
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09:20:46 <MrMobodies> when I fit the correct size shims the pipe gets hot and the temperatures seem drop
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09:20:49 <Lemon> I still dont know how much I should ask for it
09:21:00 <rust_collector> 85
09:21:18 <MrMobodies> missing a 0 or two?
09:21:28 <rust_collector> Nah, it is ok like that
09:21:43 <Lemon> I thought maybe 750 euros, as the battery is dead and it cost 50 euros
09:21:52 <Lemon> well, not that it matters anyway its not meant to be used unplugged
09:21:58 <MrMobodies> has it got a round cell or lithium flat pack?
09:22:04 <Lemon> even new it wouldnt last more than 1 hour without wifi
09:22:07 <Lemon> flat pack
09:22:17 <MrMobodies> I had one of them bulge in a HP laptop
09:22:28 <Lemon> yeah gladly this one is still fine
09:22:33 <MrMobodies> it was so swollen I put it outside
09:22:42 <MrMobodies> it was a customers
09:22:44 <Lemon> better take care with those creeping lipos
09:22:59 <MrMobodies> they didn't make them anymore and the customer gave it to me
09:23:05 <MrMobodies> he brought another one
09:23:26 <MrMobodies> It had a broken hard drive and I came across the battery
09:23:32 <MrMobodies> it was actually working and half full
09:23:41 <rust_collector> well, good night etc.etc.
09:23:43 <MrMobodies> but no sensors when it swells
09:23:54 <MrMobodies> good night?
09:23:56 <Lemon> bye rusty
09:24:03 <Lemon> im going to sleep aswell im tired af
09:24:08 <rust_collector> yes, I have to get up in the morning
09:24:14 <Lemon> I told the prema dude im buying it
09:24:14 <MrMobodies> early shift
09:24:42 <rust_collector> This is my "middle" shift, so I start at 5
09:25:06 <Lemon> see you buddies, have a good night/day ::>
09:25:10 <MrMobodies> 5am in the monrning
09:25:16 <MrMobodies> good nighty
09:25:24 <rust_collector> add one hour for the timezone, and I am too late, as usual
09:25:39 <rust_collector> have fun and stuff
09:27:05 <MrMobodies> it's always fun here
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09:40:09 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Chris Gammell: This week on @TheAmpHour, @eevblog and I chatted about different technical books (!), the end of Particle Mesh, how to troubleshoot problems remotely, and a lot more. https://t.co/yYr3mo8vtq https://t.co/V20XBOwaHk
10:03:18 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: And the social hack of the year award goes to @simon_deliver https://t.co/6bRVhy9i3y
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10:14:23 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Because we desperately needed more security for our eBay farting novelty gadgets. I for one feel vastly safer. https://t.co/S8IX93sa1J
10:44:34 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: For those playing along at home, that extra 3.8% on every express post package with @auspost pays for 40 xray machines & 2300 cameras. I wonder, does the fee increase expire once they are paid off? https://t.co/YuoHEtqaoN
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11:26:13 <easybsd> JLCPCB gud
11:26:45 <easybsd> I sold my kidney for Weller junk. Hakko gud
11:27:29 <easybsd> SA > NSW
11:29:22 <easybsd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXvXwzQf1gU terrible soldering
11:29:39 <easybsd> Chisel tip love
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13:26:31 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5eL_al_m7Q
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17:41:14 <hsn> i cant imagine (dt/di) !!
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18:02:23 <hsn> Turns Ratio:1CT:1CT << what is CT here ?
18:13:24 <hsn> copper turns :D ?
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18:40:38 <steve30> hi
18:42:11 <hsn> hi
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18:57:29 <DHess_US> Or Center Tap
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19:03:54 * DogWomble taps the center of his screen
19:07:16 * hsn knok knok ?
19:20:57 <Halcyon> Evening all
19:21:07 <Halcyon> I just put a big huntsman spider outside
19:21:10 <Halcyon> I am such a man :)
19:22:40 * Halcyon pokes Ampera
19:26:30 <steve30> hi Halcyon
19:26:36 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
19:28:18 * steve30 cuddles Halcyon
19:28:39 <Halcyon> :)
19:28:43 <Halcyon> How was the gym yesterday?
19:29:15 <steve30> good
19:29:30 <steve30> meow: https://youtu.be/NAosvwyGf1c?t=252
19:29:56 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
19:31:17 <DogWomble> hey Halcyon
19:32:58 <hsn> gibbs
19:33:17 <hsn> does gibbs know that she is gibbs?
19:37:35 <DogWomble> how do any of us know we are real?
19:39:07 <hsn> u pinch ur self and u ll feel that u r real
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19:47:53 <Halcyon> Hey DogWomble
19:47:55 <Halcyon> What's doing?
19:48:05 <DogWomble> not much, how be you?
19:48:13 <Halcyon> I'll be better when this week is over
19:48:23 <Halcyon> Although I'm in Canberra all next week for work which is nice
19:48:29 <DogWomble> :D
19:49:39 <Halcyon> I need to get around to looking at your PSU too
19:50:06 <DogWomble> yeah i've been meaning to ask about that
19:50:24 <DogWomble> that and the headphones
19:50:33 <Halcyon> I honestly haven't had time to look at it, this week is entirely written off (I'm even working all 5 days), next week is obviously out
19:50:43 <Halcyon> Hopefully after next week I'll have a chance to come up with an order list
19:51:02 <Halcyon> Then once I get the parts in, it will be about an hours worth of work
19:52:22 <DogWomble> yeah, and you sound like you're better with a soldering iron than i am
19:52:34 <Halcyon> Hehe yeh done it a few times :-)
19:52:46 <Halcyon> Although our chip-off machine at work is fucked at the moment which is annoying
19:52:50 <Halcyon> The roof leaked all over it
19:58:10 <Halcyon> I need to buy more Ikea containers
20:07:43 * steve30 makes some food
20:09:01 <Halcyon> I am online shopping with Ikea :)
20:10:49 <steve30> I should order a MiniDV head cleaning tape
20:12:33 <Halcyon> Don't be lazy, get some iso onto it
20:12:39 <Halcyon> Those cleaning tapes are abrasive
20:20:25 <steve30> I would rather not dismantle the camcorder
20:20:42 <Halcyon> You can't get to the tape head through the open door?
20:21:30 <steve30> barely
20:23:02 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
20:23:02 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:35 2020
20:32:50 <Halcyon> Mm annoying
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20:36:22 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhRNNuCDeg
20:36:25 <Halcyon> That's kind of cool
20:36:38 <Halcyon> I wish I had the room for arcade machines
20:36:46 <Halcyon> I would LOVE an old school pinball machine
20:37:16 <Lemon> hello peeps
20:37:20 <Halcyon> Hey Lemon
20:52:46 <Lemon> we have a cat thats on the verge of dying, she's so skinny...
20:53:01 <Lemon> yesterday she had disappear, so we thought erf its the end
20:53:15 <Lemon> but she came back today ! im going to drive her to the vet as soon as I can
20:54:25 <Halcyon> :(
20:54:30 <Halcyon> Sorry to hear mate
20:54:38 <Lemon> im sure she'll make it
21:13:08 <steve30> aww
21:13:15 * steve30 meows at Lemon
21:13:40 <Lemon> *meows back
21:13:46 <Lemon> heh why its not in green
21:13:51 <Lemon> life ruined
21:14:06 <Halcyon> You type /me things
21:14:38 * Lemon meows
21:14:40 <Lemon> :>
21:14:42 <Halcyon> \o/
21:14:45 <Lemon> life completed
21:14:52 <Halcyon> Welcome to IRC :P
21:14:55 <Lemon> I can't get the vet on phone !
21:15:06 <Lemon> haha it was actually the first thing I ever used I think
21:15:10 <Lemon> but its been so long !
21:15:27 <Halcyon> You can also do Colours!
21:15:38 <Halcyon> And Bold
21:18:30 * T3sl4 boldly slaps Halcyon across the cheek
21:18:36 <Halcyon> steve30: Is this accurate? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riwKuKSbFDs
21:18:40 <Halcyon> (The first bit)
21:18:54 * Halcyon accepts T3sl4's love
21:19:14 <T3sl4> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
21:20:34 <steve30> yes, if a little over the top
21:20:45 <Halcyon> He's pretty good
21:20:59 <Halcyon> I can only do Vietnamese apart from 'Srayan
21:22:53 <Halcyon> His Aussie accent is close, probably more Queensland than where we are
21:24:29 <steve30> I'm trying to get the cute cyclist guy off Recon to go out for a coffee
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21:26:01 <Halcyon> Oooer
21:26:04 <Halcyon> Any luck?
21:26:27 <Lemon> haaaa time to go get my waveform generator ! brb guys
21:26:37 <steve30> making progress
21:29:22 <Halcyon> Enjoy Lemon
21:31:42 <T3sl4> steve30, is he fat bottomed?
21:31:46 <T3sl4> i hear they make the rocking world go round
21:32:12 <Halcyon> I'm guessing if he is a cyclist, he has tight buns
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21:34:04 <T3sl4> true
21:35:25 <Halcyon> How do you compare T3sl4 ?
21:35:26 <Halcyon> :P
21:36:40 <steve30> Cyclists tend to have nice bottoms :)
21:36:44 <T3sl4> i've been told i'm flat
21:37:03 <T3sl4> but that was a long time ago so i don't know if all the sitting i do has improved it at all
21:37:22 <Halcyon> Yeh some guys have no ass
21:37:25 <Halcyon> Which is a shame
21:37:41 <Halcyon> It's akin to ladies boobs in my opinion
21:38:04 <Halcyon> Too large or too small isn't nice
21:38:11 <Halcyon> They should be pert and round
21:38:54 <steve30> There was a girl at the gym yesterday who had a nice bottom
21:39:09 <Halcyon> Pfft, who cares about female bottoms
21:39:19 * T3sl4 raises hand
21:39:28 <Halcyon> You can have them
21:40:08 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/1Wnpvjc
21:40:33 <Halcyon> What about it?
21:40:51 <T3sl4> seems doubly up your alley :P
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21:44:51 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/s20GeCx
21:45:54 <Halcyon> Bahahah
21:46:10 <Halcyon> Clever but also someone failed massively
21:49:40 <T3sl4> you're assuming it's not intentional
21:49:51 <Halcyon> Hmmmm...
21:52:53 <steve30> I'm still curious as to why there was a guy wearing a woolly hat at the gym yesterday
21:53:52 <Halcyon> Strange
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22:14:55 <T3sl4> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boops_boops
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22:30:18 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.redd.it/lbnhwacvtte41.jpg
22:32:06 <hsn> that nick is made of steel
22:32:15 <hsn> neck ? nick?
22:36:11 <T3sl4> was gonna say, my nick is made of T3sl4
22:38:32 * steve30 curls up on T3sl4 's desk
22:38:58 * T3sl4 scritches steve30, turns on the coffee machine
22:39:27 * steve30 perks up a bit
22:44:08 <K> hello
22:44:08 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
22:44:12 <K> woo!
22:45:30 <T3sl4> mornin
22:46:40 <K> 've been reading x-chapters last nights, it is nice
22:47:26 * Ampera stabs Halcyon with love
22:51:59 * T3sl4 stabs Ampera with a qtip
22:52:22 * Ampera gently places a qtip in T3sl4's ear and swirls it around delicately
22:52:29 <T3sl4> :)
22:52:59 <Ampera> It is day 2 of my first job
22:53:02 <Ampera> I haven't been fired yet
22:53:06 <Ampera> and I haven't set anything on fire yet.
22:53:58 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfjLC5Wo-Us
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23:33:50 <hsn93> Non-Disclosure Agreement to download DATASHEEET !!?
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23:46:04 <coppice_> hsn93: what about it?
23:46:31 <hsn93> just never encouter somthing like this .. with simple chips
23:46:59 <hsn93> now im checking some nand flash from micron i see that its little bit (too much) :D
23:47:15 <coppice_> even some simple chips have restricted features
23:47:59 <hsn93> that u've to accept non disclosure agreement to read the datasheet?
23:50:32 <coppice_> if you can get information into the hands of potential large customers, without your competitors finding out how well your stuff performs, why wouldn't you?
23:57:34 <hsn93> hmmm
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