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09:58 <DHess_US> Sweeping something slow like an oven.
25:42 <rust_collector> that makes sense, but how would you sweep an oven?
46:08 Join: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
47:11 <rust_collector> HEY!!!
47:38 <rust_collector> it is alive
47:44 <Ysjoelfir> somehow at least
47:57 <rust_collector> close enough
50:12 <Ysjoelfir> correct. just went shopping. that didn't help much
52:43 <coppice_> rust_collector: use a heat resistant broom?
52:48 <rust_collector> you should go to the dirtiest cheapest chinese restaurant. you know, the sort of place that only have one fridge, to keep coke cold. meat and stuff is all over the back room. then order a secret ancient dish with all the spices, like grand-grandma ping ding mahe
53:02 <rust_collector> silicone broom? metal maybe?
54:19 <Ysjoelfir> i do that sometimes. its great.
55:14 <rust_collector> yep, much better than the western restaurant, that just happen to make a sort of china inspired dish
56:22 <coppice_> rust_collector: what kind of shithole do you live in? I've never seen a restaurant in the grubbiest backwater of China that's quite that bad
56:26 <rust_collector> hmm, when I was even younger than now, we did not go out for food very often. but when we did go to a china place, I always got a burger
57:18 <rust_collector> I live in the place that has 99.9% boring restaurants
01:18 <Ampera> morning
01:33 <Ysjoelfir> &me sneezes on Ampera
01:35 <Ysjoelfir> meh
01:40 <rust_collector> hellooooo!!! flowers and pollen to you
01:40 <EEVBlog> Hello there, rust_collector!
01:43 <Ysjoelfir> immagine that being a /me
01:50 <rust_collector> hey e-bot
01:53 <Ampera> lol
04:06 <rust_collector> I think you should sue opel, because they use your name on their little electric car. I am not exactly sure who you complain to now, as they were sold
08:09 <Ysjoelfir> i aggree
08:59 <K> if one listens very carefully on a quiet autumn evening, one can hear the opels rusting.
10:01 <rust_collector> yes, they are like they have been since gm bought them. but now they somehow made plastic rust
11:48 <Ysjoelfir> here in germany they call rust sometimes "Opel gold" :D
12:23 <rust_collector> yeah, that is pretty annoying
12:46 <Ysjoelfir> that would make you an opel_gold_conector
13:07 <Ysjoelfir> collector
13:16 <Ysjoelfir> meh... i'm sick, nothing works
14:32 <rust_collector> opel made 4000 bicycles a day. that is pretty interesting/weird/stuff
15:19 <rust_collector> well, it says the factory had a capacity of that, it does not say they actually made any bikes there
17:38 <Ysjoelfir> i didnt even knew they built bikes at all
20:51 <rust_collector> Though seldom seen today, the Magirus company produced almost all of the early, movable ladders used in the construction of large, rigid airships in Germany and in the United States.
21:23 <Ysjoelfir> I love magirus
21:52 <rust_collector> yeah, I did my "work week" in the 8th grade in a magirus shop
24:40 <Ysjoelfir> I already told you about the ex firefighter truck I once owned. I went to some firefighter meetings with that and always drooled over those big aircooled engines in the magirus deutzes
24:51 <rust_collector> heh
25:22 <rust_collector> well, the v8 made a lot of noise, the v10 did almost ok as an engine
25:48 <Ysjoelfir> it did. those were loud as fuck, but I liked the sound.
26:28 <rust_collector> I had a little 170hp magirus, just a small six cylinder. it was both noisy AND slow. But ok, it did what you told it to do
27:22 <Ysjoelfir> well, my Daimler wasn't the fastest either.... with its inline 4 cylinder 90HP gasoline motor
27:41 <rust_collector> the trucks were really good, the engines were also really good. it is just that they are not truck engines, lol
28:02 <Ysjoelfir> I remember that one night I went with it from frankfurt back home to the Ruhrgebiet. around Neuwied there are pretty steep hills.
28:14 <Ysjoelfir> We screamed those up in first gear with ~15 kmh
28:43 <Ysjoelfir> one trucker even asked if he should tow us up the hill xD
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29:10 <rust_collector> I think that was a thing in germany... you do not need to accelerate. if you use 40km to get up to speed, that is ok
29:24 <Ysjoelfir> yep
29:30 <rust_collector> you know you are going slow when people stop to talk to you
29:51 <Ysjoelfir> indeed xD
31:59 <rust_collector> makes me think of the ifa, l60, I think they were called
33:30 <Lemon> wdduppp
33:47 <rust_collector> hello
34:12 <Lemon> how its goin ?
34:59 <rust_collector> Well, I am home. mom in law is here and wants her car fixed
35:25 <rust_collector> I think Ysjoelfir is more inspired to do things than me at the moment
35:37 <Lemon> heh
35:41 <Ysjoelfir> am I=
35:46 <Lemon> my shoulders are fixed I think
35:48 <Lemon> pfiou
35:59 <Ysjoelfir> I'm watching lets play videos, trying to motivate maself to do somethung
36:04 <Ysjoelfir> and i cant type anymore
36:06 <rust_collector> did you epoxy them or something?
36:14 <Lemon> hot glue bro
36:23 <rust_collector> cool
36:27 <rust_collector> or
36:30 <rust_collector> uhm
36:42 <Lemon> also waveform gen seller sent it
36:50 <Lemon> he was really fast, he sent the dmm 1 hour after I paid
36:56 <Lemon> but it was too late for the gen
37:03 <Lemon> me likes it
37:19 <rust_collector> I guess you should remember that guy
37:29 <Lemon> yeah
37:38 <Lemon> 143 euros total for both was really neat
37:59 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, I think you should make a vim pedal. that should be a suitable project for you now
38:24 <Ysjoelfir> a what kind of thingemajig?
38:56 <Lemon> idk why but I dont like rigol scopes
39:06 <rust_collector> https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch
39:12 <Lemon> nor hantek, or stuff like that
40:24 <Ysjoelfir> lol. :)
40:38 <rust_collector> I would not complain if someone wanted to give me a "cheap" scope
41:01 <Lemon> yeah ofc but when I see people saying 'get a 300 dollars rigol scope to begin'
41:10 <Lemon> its a bit sad, theres so many good second hand scopes
42:03 <Lemon> a dude was selling a rhode &schwarz 1ghz scope for like 1k euros I think
42:08 <rust_collector> well, the new one probably does not have any weird issues, which I guess is the last thing you need, when you start...and there are a lot of features in those things
42:36 <Lemon> yeah true but its not looking good imo, and you get like 50mhz bandwith
42:52 <rust_collector> beats my 20
42:59 <Lemon> for half that price I got 100mhz, nice functions too, the pleasure of analog, and two tek probes
43:23 <Lemon> also a sturdier build
43:33 <Lemon> because idk if those rigol will last 30-40 years honestly
43:40 <Lemon> and gl to fix them
43:50 <Lemon> if its a small thing like psu issue etc ok
43:58 <rust_collector> probably not, but have you tried to bounce your metal scope on the floor?
44:01 <Lemon> but if its a chip buried under epoxy hmmm
44:23 <Lemon> rarely honestly, but by sturdier I mean buttons, connectors etc
45:35 <Lemon> and honestly I trust old brands that made their names during decades a lot more than new chinese stuff
45:43 <Lemon> im not saying chinese stuff is necessarly bad
45:45 <rust_collector> To be honest, I bought this scope because I thought it looked cool, lol
45:47 <Lemon> theres good things, ofc
45:58 <Lemon> heh thats important
46:35 <rust_collector> the screen is... sort of... not tiny, which is nice. but the rest is a bit meh
46:59 <Lemon> well it all depends on your needs afterall
47:05 <Lemon> but for me, second hand wins most of the time
47:13 <Lemon> I only buy small items new, like pliers etc
47:18 <rust_collector> well, I guess I should get outside, and replace a spring
47:26 <rust_collector> yes, I have noticed that...errr
47:32 <Lemon> :>
47:43 <Lemon> I love my new knipex needlenose
47:45 <Lemon> its so useful
48:02 <rust_collector> is your nose still ok?
48:11 <Lemon> I lost it :/
48:29 <rust_collector> do they look that much like the snips?
48:34 <rust_collector> oh well
48:47 <Lemon> https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B001IRSCKO?ref=ppx_pt2_dt_b_prod_image
49:00 <rust_collector> mmhmm,
49:18 <Lemon> perfect to manipulate small things like through hole components, or bend stuff etc
49:24 <Lemon> it also cut thicc wires which is nice
49:36 <JoePublic> @lemon : i see that it is not esd safe
49:45 <rust_collector> maybe paint them. the snips can stay red, because they make the red water come out, the needlenose one should be green, like nose goo
49:46 <Lemon> thats true yes
50:00 <Lemon> esd ones are like the double I think
50:29 <Lemon> but well I must say that I never ever had any problems with esd
50:29 <JoePublic> but it is less safe for your comopents
50:37 <rust_collector> ok, later...rrr.r.rrr.r.rr.r
50:46 <Lemon> I usually unload myself touching something grounded and thats all
50:50 <Lemon> bye boi
50:52 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector!
51:05 <Ysjoelfir> the gf just said that grandiosa is crap!
51:12 <rust_collector> sprinkle carbon dust all over
51:14 <Ysjoelfir> should I kick her out?
51:23 <rust_collector> no, that is ok.
51:50 <Ysjoelfir> ok :) than I keep her.
51:52 <Lemon> hmmm I should check if theres a battery inside my 175
52:02 <Lemon> I know theres the option
52:07 <rust_collector> if she is into that stuff, you can kick her, or... maybe just twist her nipples a bit
53:24 <Ysjoelfir> I should try that
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56:24 <Gniske> Anybody?
56:36 <Lemon> anyone
56:47 <Ysjoelfir> nobody
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56:59 <Lemon> alright
58:00 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely
59:08 <JoePublic> i looking for a new handheld multimeter to replace my current 10 euro one. Is a budget of 50 euro/dollar a good bang for the buck wan. i want to have tempeturmesearement
59:57 <Lemon> I don't have much knowledge in that range of prices
00:30 <Lemon> maybe check for a second hand one, metrix, amprobe or another brand
01:04 <Lemon> 50 euros is not a lot for a new dmm, you wont get a lot of things better than a decent cheapo like aneng 8002 or likewise
02:22 <JoePublic> whats than a receneble budget for a new multimeter. but second hand is also a option for me
02:50 <Lemon> with 80-100 euros you can start to find neat things I think
03:11 <Lemon> the only handhelds I have are very old, and analog
03:25 <Lemon> except for a tek scope/dmm but thats out of your budget, and not convenient
03:42 <Lemon> I also have a fluke 101 on the way, which is 35 euros but theres no current/temp measurement
04:23 <JoePublic> this one Chauvin Arnoux metrix MX 24 is in my region for sale second hand voor 99,50 euro
04:41 <Lemon> its a french brand, good stuff
04:50 <Lemon> check if it got what you want, feature wise
05:02 <Ysjoelfir> wutt?
05:06 <Ysjoelfir> french?
05:08 <Ysjoelfir> good?
05:09 <Ysjoelfir> nah
05:10 <Ysjoelfir> :D
05:18 <Lemon> shhh chauvin arnoux is great :>
05:24 <Ysjoelfir> but its french
05:26 <Ysjoelfir> it cant be good
05:30 <Lemon> yes, and its great
05:32 <Lemon> pff stop it xd
05:36 <Lemon> we do make good things !
05:42 <Ysjoelfir> :P
05:43 <Lemon> not a lot, but we used to :>
06:11 <Lemon> I want an analog chauvin arnoux clamp meter
06:22 <Lemon> I was about to buy one for like 20 euros but the dude isnt responding anymore
06:35 <Lemon> but you said you had many
06:41 <Lemon> so maybe I'll buy one from you :>
06:48 <Lemon> do you have those amprobe rs-1 ?
11:32 <JoePublic> Chauvin Arnoux metrix MX 24 is well above specs that i think. even with lux meter. idk that that whas a option on ddm's
12:29 <JoePublic> but no tempprobe's by the second hand ad i found.
13:06 <Lemon> well you could try to find a second hand thermocouple like a fluke 80tk, but its not really precise
13:40 <Lemon> I suggest you to keep looking for a few days before making a purchase
13:48 <Lemon> you'll learn your market, and make a better deal
14:50 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/1750162733.htm/ Ysjoelfir :>
15:04 <JoePublic> i have the time to found one
15:58 <Lemon> yeah keep looking thats what I'm doing to build my lab
16:07 <Lemon> but do you really need it to be handheld?
16:56 <Ysjoelfir> bnvbvcnmbvcgfcbvc vb b x
17:13 <Lemon> yes ?
18:12 <Lemon> watcha think of that oldie ? :>
18:23 <JoePublic> i prevere handheld becase i have no table (yet) reserves for my lab. and want to go regulare to another room.
18:32 <Lemon> ok I see
23:04 <Ysjoelfir> that thing is sweet lemon :D
23:13 <Ysjoelfir> and regarding that... [16:16:56] <Ysjoelfir> bnvbvcnmbvcgfcbvc vb b x
23:15 <Ysjoelfir> well...
23:16 <Lemon> its pretty unique
23:26 <Lemon> I asked if it was working :>
23:36 <Lemon> cat on keyboard ?
23:39 <Ysjoelfir> I started my game and wondered why I couldn't move. seemed like I wasn't in that window :D
23:46 <Lemon> pffrrt
23:50 <Lemon> classic !
24:21 <Lemon> its on an emulator ?
25:10 <Ysjoelfir> kind of. Final Fantasy X HD Remastered. so a console port for PC
25:38 <Lemon> I see :> idk why but I never been a fan of FF games !
25:47 <Lemon> they are nice and everything
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25:55 <Lemon> but well I never got the 'thing' to like playing them
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37:46 <JoePublic> i see on the new market a lot of voltcraft. wat are the excepices?
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40:44 <Ysjoelfir> vltcraft can be great or crap.
40:54 <Ysjoelfir> its the brand of Conrad electronic
41:15 <Ysjoelfir> on the early days they used to relabel a lot of metrix ( i have 3 of those)
41:23 <Ysjoelfir> nowadays its mostly chinesium
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46:44 <JoePublic> i have found a couple on the used market. like the VOLTCRAFT VC890. with no bids on it and the bids start at 0.00 euro
47:17 <Ysjoelfir> that is a pretty nice thing
47:32 <JoePublic> with almost no use
51:27 <helpplz> what would you say is the difference between a lead acid battery and lith ion
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53:39 <Ysjoelfir> I would say.... despite them both being an energy storage device... about everything.
53:49 <helpplz> :D
55:05 <JoePublic> and the chemicals are different
55:10 <helpplz> i told someone that ther really is only one significant difference and that is power to weight .... and he said i was stupid....... but i like your answer
56:14 <JoePublic> there is more differents
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59:49 <helpplz> o and another thing that is cool about lead acid is you can rebuild one
03:09 <JoePublic> and lead acid must from time to time be filled
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17:39 <helpplz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c2FMJtIW7E
17:48 <helpplz> do you think this is worth building
23:36 <helpplz> they say its fake
28:10 <JoePublic> i now not a lot about capacitors but 7000 farad sounds a lot. think that it is fake about the capacitie
29:12 <JoePublic> instead u can build a capacitor with tin foil. but for 7000 farad i think for diy it is small
29:20 <helpplz> if i could build a 500f i would be happy
29:48 <JoePublic> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjW-isgOijs this a real diy capacitor
29:57 <helpplz> ty
30:11 <helpplz> lol eboom
32:53 <JoePublic> but you can connect multiple capacitor in a capacitorbank for 500 farad
34:12 <helpplz> dam how big would a diy 500f capacitor be
35:06 <JoePublic> diy or commarcial?
35:16 <helpplz> home made
36:14 <JoePublic> how must room have you in your project?
36:37 <helpplz> about 1ft square
36:48 <helpplz> cubed really
38:16 <JoePublic> what where the specs of the capacitor from the eboom video?
38:25 <helpplz> crap
38:30 <JoePublic> i have watch it a long time ago
38:32 <helpplz> ther like 5nf
38:34 <helpplz> i think
39:22 <helpplz> im still watching
39:29 <helpplz> hes making another one
43:41 <helpplz> he only doubled it
43:45 <helpplz> 10nf
48:18 <JoePublic> now 1nf is 1 E9 farad. so you need 8 zero after the capacitor from eboom for a 1 farad capacitor.
49:19 <JoePublic> i think that you better buy or salavege capacitors and make a capacitorbank with it so you get 500farad and that is a lot of energy.
49:44 <helpplz> yah the diy will be big asf
50:53 <JoePublic> and you can put a lot of 12v capacitor in 1 sqaure feet
54:07 <helpplz> brb
54:32 <JoePublic> where stand that for? brb
56:16 <JoePublic> i must go i have no time more for hanging out.
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56:21 <Ysjoelfir> be right back
48:01 <rust_collector> wth are you people doing?
49:12 <Ysjoelfir> trying not to die. you?
49:47 <rust_collector> uhm, well, I am the same, but not as hard as you, I guess
52:35 <rust_collector> o well, mom in law is on her way home
52:45 <rust_collector> with a much taller car
52:53 <rust_collector> and no abs brakes
55:15 <DHess_US> I hate ABS brakes.
55:59 <rust_collector> I think it is one of the most popular ways to make money, for the parts people
57:21 <rust_collector> but... I scanned it, and got a typical bosch message. abs blah blah, positive shorted to ground, or open circuit.
57:35 <rust_collector> isn't that almost opposite things?
58:08 <DHess_US> It just means that an open or short triggers fault detection.
58:32 <DHess_US> The circuit has to be deliberately designed to detect either condition.
59:21 <rust_collector> I guess, but... with all the crap you can get out of those things... but not the most common faults...
59:52 <DHess_US> In that case it doesn't really matter. The diagnostic steps are the same for a short or open.
02:42 <rust_collector> I guess they could just turn on the lamp, and have a message saying "something is wrong"
03:01 <rust_collector> oh well
05:13 <rust_collector> so that is the next project on that car. and the electric steering that works some times, and the rear hatch, that does not open, and the horn circuit is shorted. But otoh, she does not have enough money to buy a car that is new enough to take to a dealer, and if she does buy a new older car, it will probably be much more complicated than this thing, so I guess I should keep the thing alive as long as I can
09:50 <DHess_US> Cruise control failed on mine after I cleaned all of the connectors around the engine.
10:02 <DHess_US> Airbag light blinks.
10:57 <rust_collector> good times
14:33 <DHess_US> And on my pickup, a GMC of course, if the engine dies then the ABS brakes become too stiff to use.
15:23 <rust_collector> hydroboost or vacuum booster?
15:38 <DHess_US> I mean I can literally *stand* on the brakes and pull down using my arms and it will barely stop on an incline.
15:47 <DHess_US> vacuum, they work for one press.
15:52 <rust_collector> ok
15:56 <DHess_US> But they shouldn't be that stiff without vacuum assist.
16:07 <DHess_US> And they aren't defective. They are *all* like that.
16:36 <rust_collector> it is how it is now, you get tons and tons of booster power
16:54 <DHess_US> Also, can't push start a manual transmission GMC pickup because the security system prevents it even if you don't have that option.
18:31 <DHess_US> Can't clutch start it either.
18:39 <DHess_US> Which is the same thing.
18:53 <DHess_US> If your battery or starter dies, then you are fucked.
20:06 <coppice_> no battery == no power for the engine management computer
20:17 <Lord_of_nothing> Hi
20:25 <Lord_of_nothing> How does everyone do here?
20:41 <rust_collector> meh, I have an issue with gm products in general, maybe except allison and emd, and I am not sure if they still are gm
21:03 <rust_collector> hey. we do
21:05 <rust_collector> ok?
21:42 <DHess_US> coppice_, most battery failures present high impedance so there is enough power for the engine controls but not enough for the starter.
22:37 <coppice_> dead batteries often go far too low in voltage to run the electronics
23:14 <DHess_US> Oh, those are not the only problems on that pickup from GMC. They used a plastic molded handle for the third door and the molding dies were misaligned so the handle breaks. WTF?
23:36 <DHess_US> coppice_, almost never happened to me while I have more than a handful which only couldn't run the starter.
23:46 <DHess_US> Actually, I don't know even once where that happened to me.
24:26 <DHess_US> And then all of the soft rubber on the pickup, like to keep the tailgate from rattling, shattered during the first winter I had it.
24:38 <DHess_US> What a pile of junk.
24:44 <DHess_US> New, it was a pile of junk.
25:03 <rust_collector> hmm, when was that?
25:15 <DHess_US> Oh, and then there is the stupid side terminal batteries.
25:28 <DHess_US> 2002 model bought in 2003 so winter of 2003.
25:50 <DHess_US> The side terminals leak, then you can't get the battery terminal off without cutting the cable. wTF?>
25:51 <coppice_> we had to replace a car battery a few weeks ago. one day the car was running fine. the next day the only thing that would work is the remote locking. once in the car nothing happened when the key was inserted. the battery was at <7V with no load
26:08 <DHess_US> coppice_, cracked battery plate.
26:29 <rust_collector> 2002... that is the older type, isn't it? I don't know when they went to the new body, but I think it was around that time?
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26:57 <Lemon> oi oi
26:57 <DHess_US> They were still using the same one but heavier in 2004.
27:10 <DHess_US> 2003 was the last year for the Sonoma/S-10
27:29 <DHess_US> They replaced it with the same pickup but heavier to meet EPA requirements which made lighter pickups illegal.
27:40 <rust_collector> heh
27:46 <DHess_US> Not joking.
28:02 <DHess_US> Literally the same pickup but a couple hundred pounds heavier to meet EPA requirements.
28:40 <DHess_US> Want to know why Americans buy heavier, larger vehicles with worse gas mileage? The EPA requires is.
29:11 <coppice_> The EPA measures vehicles by the kilo? weird
29:21 <coppice_> or pound, I guess
29:36 <rust_collector> and you have space for a good size lunch box and a suitcase in your excursion
30:02 <DHess_US> They have rules which set the required mileage based on weight and size. So as they ratchet them up, vehicles are made heavier and larger to meet the requirements.
30:53 <DHess_US> Another thing they do is make diesel emission requires just a big tighter than for Europe, so most European diesels cannot be imported.
31:35 <DHess_US> And they do something similar for light pickups and other vehicles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
33:34 <rust_collector> at least you get the vw routan, which I believe is not available for us over here, lol
33:56 <rust_collector> maybe it looks familiar to some moms
12:46 <Lemon> wats up rusty
13:16 <rust_collector> eeh, I have no idea. is anything up?
15:08 <Lemon> well idk
15:34 <rust_collector> ok
15:41 <rust_collector> then... not much?
15:50 <Lemon> yeah
17:21 <rust_collector> I tried to think, but remembered that nothing good has ever happened because of thinking, so I thought tha....oh crap I can not do that, thin NOO!
17:46 <rust_collector> ok, youtube then
18:07 <Lemon> go look for test gear to buy !
19:02 <rust_collector> no, at the moment I have - a lot of money to use, so... that is a thing I can try to look at closer to summer
19:33 <Lemon> be sure to told me when the moment come :>
19:49 <Lemon> I still have some euros but honestly I have tons of things and no space left
20:00 <Lemon> maybe a nice thing will popup, we'll see
20:14 <Lemon> I thought about one of those chinese electronic loads, for 15-20 euros they can be handy
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55:53 <rust_collector> what load?
56:12 <rust_collector> I made my own, and it seems to sort of work
56:46 <rust_collector> it is probably crap, but it can take much more than I thought it could
57:03 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, a eload is not hard and a great way to learn stuff
58:03 <rust_collector> I think it is the only thing I have made that I am pretty happy about, lol
58:11 <rust_collector> electronic thing
09:12 <Lemon> ho yeah I could make mine
09:20 <Lemon> thats true I could learn out of it
11:53 <rust_collector> yaay! I have more coffee
14:01 <Lemon> wow the Advantest R8340A can read resistances up to 30 Peta ohms
14:09 <Lemon> I didn't know it was possible
14:25 <Lemon> incredible
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14:46 <rust_collector> something every home owner should have
15:00 <Lemon> yeah
15:12 <Lemon> and the accuracy isnt bad either, 0.8% at the 10e16 range
15:41 <Lemon> runs fo 700-1k, which is correct
15:52 <Lemon> i can measures current down to 10 femto amps too
17:09 <MrMobodies> I got my wood yesterday
17:12 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/C4nOcsV.jpg
17:27 <Lemon> pretty neat !
17:31 <Lemon> gotta populate that now :>
17:32 <MrMobodies> Now I have to get the posts and build a frame
17:48 <MrMobodies> I want it to handle alot of weight without wobblying
18:11 <MrMobodies> It is supported under that desk for now
18:24 <MrMobodies> and i had a good bonfire out of the packaging
19:19 <MrMobodies> It could end up like the wooden shelves in the previous house in a couple of years
19:25 <rust_collector> Oh no, I have been enough in this channel to know something is wrong when you see someone got wood and a link
20:32 <MrMobodies> something not good is about to happen?
20:59 <MrMobodies> or another joke
21:55 <MrMobodies> I have got some right angle brackets to link the posts but I am thinking of building a frame underneath
22:04 <Lemon> rust you told me you didnt have any jinxes left
23:58 <rust_collector> right, do you need some?
25:13 <Lemon> ho no pls
26:27 <MrMobodies> these are my links to the posts
26:28 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/4S5ncxN.jpg
27:26 <rust_collector> yes, I think a frame is a good idea
28:00 <MrMobodies> the posts maybe I am looking for is 75x75 or greater
28:31 <MrMobodies> I don't mind going overkill to kill any wobble, I can't stand wobble from a desk
29:22 <MrMobodies> I can put a 3.1cm frame under, and then a smaller desk can go underneath which looks the same
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29:57 <MrMobodies> I can screw the frames to the posts and those large brackets
30:32 <rust_collector> 3.1cm? wood?
34:05 <MrMobodies> YES
34:11 <MrMobodies> oops caps
34:21 <MrMobodies> 3.1cm gap if I swap the desks, where one is lower
34:33 <MrMobodies> so i can build that frame
35:07 <rust_collector> ok, I just thought 3.1cm was a very specific size, for a plank.
35:34 <MrMobodies> that is the space left, I have two similar looking draws
35:42 <MrMobodies> one is the same size as the other three desks
35:49 <MrMobodies> but one is about 3.1cm lower
37:12 <rust_collector> does it have legs you can cut off a bit, if you want a sturdier frame?
38:09 <MrMobodies> I could raise it or cut that and the other one
39:30 <MrMobodies> I would have to cut a single two desk drawer and a single one but I think it;ll be easier to build that frame and strengthen it
39:31 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/nVnmdfl.jpg
39:42 <MrMobodies> the lower desk above
40:00 <MrMobodies> I can use the two bit of wood undernath for shelving
40:49 <MrMobodies> I can use one long bit when I swap instead of wasting two of three planks
40:59 <MrMobodies> but I have put posts under that as well
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15:23 <Lemon> hmm I might receive the systron donner dmm and wattmeter tommorow, or sunday morning maybe
15:59 <rust_collector> blah blah blah blah
16:06 <Lemon> :(
16:09 <rust_collector> or maybe some other day
16:27 <rust_collector> maybe it is already there? have you looked in the fridge?
17:05 <Lemon> its not there :///
17:18 <rust_collector> aaaw
20:49 <rust_collector> well, maybe tomorrow
20:55 <Lemon> maybe !
20:58 <rust_collector> or sunday morning
21:02 <Lemon> but for now I need to sleep, im tired af
21:06 <rust_collector> or some other day
21:24 <rust_collector> me too, but it is past 10, so I am awake again
22:48 <Lemon> well good night for when you'll go I guess
23:17 <rust_collector> good night. we will need pictures, so we can be sure you really go to bed...
23:52 <Lemon> arf im afraid I can only prove it by disconnecting from rc
23:55 <Lemon> iii
24:00 <rust_collector> HEY!
24:01 <Lemon> the hell my i key is wonky
24:20 <rust_collector> ok, good night
25:08 <Lemon> bye bud
25:27 <rust_collector> see you next year
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37:35 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1285 - How to do Design By Inspection https://t.co/KeMxI7kKeC
53:28 <T3sl4> feels like something frida kahlo would draw: https://i.redd.it/7gu2a00jzvg41.png
41:07 Join: Guest|96622 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
41:28 <Guest|96622> Hi is there someone? I am Gabriele
45:16 <DHess_US> I know you. You were great in The Prophecy.
49:14 <Ampera> lol
51:05 <Guest|96622> LOL
51:06 <Guest|96622> who me?
51:09 <Guest|96622> ahahahahahahhaha
51:12 <Guest|96622> okokokok
51:27 <Guest|96622> the angel telling to Maria the arrival of Jesus Christ
51:29 <Guest|96622> LOL
51:53 <Guest|96622> Guys I think to be in a big shit
53:49 <Guest|96622> is tehre someone?
54:27 <Ampera> yes
54:33 <Guest|96622> Hi Ampera
54:34 <Ampera> I can help you with big shit
54:37 <Guest|96622> how aer You
54:37 <Ampera> because I am a big shit
54:49 <Guest|96622> I made a discovery in science
54:51 <Guest|96622> one moment
55:10 <Guest|96622> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211379719333923
55:12 <Ampera> Those happen every day, but the important ones only happen every other day
55:28 <Guest|96622> after 132 years, neither Maxwell and Einstein made it
56:10 <Guest|96622> and I received a prize of 1000 miserable dollar
56:14 <Ampera> good lord physics
56:25 <Guest|96622> or rather the wave of publishing fee
56:49 <Guest|96622> now I have to apply this theory in something that will revolutionize the world
57:03 <Guest|96622> in other words what I need is a sponsor
57:23 <Guest|96622> because i do not have money, I am an alone scientific researcher in my humble apartment
57:54 <Ampera> so you've come to an EE IRC to panhandle?
58:37 <Guest|96622> yes
59:03 <Guest|96622> to ask if someone knows a way to obtain a sponsor in providing instruments
59:07 <Ampera> and what makes you think we're not a load of, as you put it, alone scientific researchers living in humble apartments
59:17 <Guest|96622> LOL
59:20 <Guest|96622> you are right
59:44 <Guest|96622> but I was just talking about myself without any exageration
59:45 <Guest|96622> LOL
59:58 <Ampera> Honestly if you can think of a reasonable application for new information, produce prototypes, apply for patents, and send letters to reasonable entities behind closed doors.
00:22 <Ampera> If you can't think of any application for information you've discovered, I'm not sure what you expect co accomplish.
00:32 <Guest|96622> in Canada is 25000 dollars!!! is a fool !!!!
00:48 <Guest|96622> in this Counstry everything cost like god in the hearth
00:50 <Guest|96622> on the earth
01:06 <Ampera> Where do you live?
01:08 <Guest|96622> it is ridiculous
01:21 <Guest|96622> I live in Toronto but I am from ITaly
01:35 <Guest|96622> I have been living in Toronto from the day I landed 2013
01:38 <Ampera> so what is 25k in Canada?
02:00 <Guest|96622> the patent
02:13 <Ampera> is your idea worth 25k?
02:37 <Guest|96622> I have to make experiments
02:58 <Guest|96622> I have to find physics parameters, it is not an object
03:03 <Ampera> It's the old saying it's not what you know, it's who you know.
03:38 <Ampera> The only idea I can offer is to contact people direct, and be absolutely upfront about the most significant aspects of your discovery.
03:50 <Guest|96622> it is something that revolutionize the way to see the reality, I am not bragging
03:50 <Guest|96622> LOL
03:57 <Guest|96622> this is valid a lot in Canada
04:03 <Guest|96622> it's not what you know, it's who you know.
04:04 <Ampera> I have no clue if the journal you've been published in is respectable or considerable, physics, especially within academia, is not my thing.
04:06 <Guest|96622> where do you live?
04:13 <Ampera> New York
04:47 <Guest|96622> I prefer more USA under this point of view
04:55 <Guest|96622> Canada is a huge farm!!!!
05:01 <Guest|96622> OMG
05:08 <Ampera> anyways, the point being, I'm not sure what you expect a 10PM conversation on an IRC channel for a youtuber is going to get you
05:38 <Guest|96622> do you think if I ask to Dave he can help me?
06:14 <Ampera> You can ask him, he's got an email, but he's an Australian engineer, not a Canadian physicist
06:34 <Guest|96622> what is that mean?
06:46 <Ampera> It means your discovery is likely not within his field of expertise.
06:58 <Ampera> and he lives a world away, in a position unlikely to be capable of rendering assistance.
07:20 <Guest|96622> wher do you think he gets all the tool that he present on youtube?
07:28 <Guest|96622> do you have any idea?
07:42 <Ampera> Money, on occasion not.
07:55 <Guest|96622> Does he Buy them?
08:05 <Guest|96622> I do not think so!
08:08 <Ampera> I'd imagine most of the time, but people and companies send him things on occasion
08:09 <Guest|96622> Are you sure?
08:19 <Ampera> No, but then again I'm not him.
08:37 <Ampera> Things in this world are rarely free.
08:43 <Guest|96622> yes man,
08:45 <Guest|96622> you are right
08:55 <Guest|96622> who is Dave Hess?
08:59 <Guest|96622> it is him?
09:08 <Ampera> no, because EEVBlog Dave is Jones
09:26 <Ampera> Dave Jones doesn't frequent IRC, this is more for the community.
09:27 <Guest|96622> ok
09:35 <Guest|96622> alright
10:13 <Guest|96622> I hope to receive a help from someone
10:23 <Guest|96622> man, I need to win the lottery
10:24 <Guest|96622> LOL
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10:52 <Guest|96622> what is it?
11:09 <Ampera> what is what
11:13 <T3sl4> Guest|96622: interesting, what are some consequences of that paper?
11:30 * Ampera throws a sanctified guppy at T3sl4 
11:51 * T3sl4 violently blesses Ampera with a whole salmon
11:56 <Ampera> \o/
11:58 <Guest|96622> I have decoupled the electromagnetic field in two separate component, but the news is, the charge!!!! it is travelling
11:58 * Ampera smokes it
12:06 <Guest|96622> like a surfer on the seawave
12:28 <Guest|96622> I cannot say more than that
13:05 <Guest|96622> I made a mathematical representation of the fact that lights is particle and wave at the same time
13:10 <Guest|96622> please do not ask more
13:21 <T3sl4> heh
13:23 <Ampera> Please, tell me more.
13:37 <Ampera> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
13:39 <Guest|96622> I took 3 weeks and I lost my fucking job to arrive tired
13:46 <T3sl4> i guess that's not really different from anything already covered, just that it's another way to express it in classical EM
13:51 <Guest|96622> because I went to sleep at 4 AM
14:05 * T3sl4 whispers more in Ampera's ear
14:16 * Ampera 's face turns stone cold
14:28 <Guest|96622> @T3sl4
14:28 <Guest|96622> i guess that's not really different from anything already covered, just that it's another way to express it in classical EM
14:40 <Guest|96622> the new part is the decoupled expressions
14:43 <Guest|96622> of course
14:51 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://i.imgur.com/OaxLgf1h.jpg
15:06 <Guest|96622> light = particle and wave was known fro 200 years ago
15:06 <T3sl4> yeah
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15:18 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDhJU_cNCZE T3sl4
15:33 <T3sl4> elo ther
15:37 <Guest|96622> but the new part is the decouping this, allows to make some stuff
15:37 <Ampera> :D
15:38 <Guest|96622> very nice
16:16 <Guest|96622> nice youtube musci
16:22 <Guest|96622> very beautifup
16:28 <Guest|96622> anyway guys
16:30 <Guest|96622> I have to go
16:34 <Ampera> ciao
16:37 <Guest|96622> it was nice to speak with you
16:37 <T3sl4> gotta say, this is one of the few songs i need to turn up, that isn't metal
16:43 <T3sl4> good night Guest|96622
16:49 <Guest|96622> 70 songs and 80 are the best
16:56 <Ampera> I love ELO
16:56 <Guest|96622> the shit of today is garbage
17:07 <T3sl4> nah, pop has always been crap
17:17 <T3sl4> only the better stuff is remembered
17:19 <Guest|96622> my email is [email protected], if you have some way to help me let me know
17:21 <Ampera> T3sl4, Michael Jackson.
17:26 <Guest|96622> ;-)
18:34 <T3sl4> Ampera: only the better stuff is remembered
18:40 Quit: Guest|96622 ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
18:45 <Ampera> T3sl4, YMCA
18:56 <Ampera> or alternatively Dschinghis Khan
18:57 <T3sl4> gay
19:13 <Ampera> 2 women and 3 men is not a gay equation
23:57 <T3sl4> it is if they're lesbians and gays
27:38 <MrMobodies> I am experiencing something
28:15 <MrMobodies> only in Chrome...
28:28 <Ampera> can't help you, using chromium
29:08 * T3sl4 fires Ampera's fox
29:24 <MrMobodies> Turn on Adblock... no filter lists. This site can’t be reached
29:30 <MrMobodies> BUT.... turn of JS and it works
29:36 <MrMobodies> isn't that naughty
29:43 <MrMobodies> I thought it was a DNS issue at firs
29:53 <T3sl4> adblock problem, or bad adblockblocker
30:12 <MrMobodies> I am going to look at this further... doesn't do it anywhere else.
30:51 <MrMobodies> works fine with Palemoon with Ablock
33:42 <MrMobodies> You know what. Silly me. it is something element in the my filter list but nothing to do with Trustpilot in there.
35:40 <MrMobodies> Oops I mean my custom filter elements.
43:50 <MrMobodies> Just looking above, I like that Elo Blue Sky and ending bit to that sounded good.
47:25 * T3sl4 hugs MrMobodies
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16:33 <Halcyon> Ampera I'm home :D
20:14 * T3sl4 noogies Halcyon
20:19 <Halcyon> :D
20:35 <Halcyon> I had a little nap, it was so good to sleep in my own bed
58:51 <Halcyon> I probably shouldn't have started a firmware update on my UPS in a storm
59:07 <Halcyon> (Well, the NMC anyway)
02:55 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/6bAhz3g.png
08:08 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
10:52 <DHess_US> That cat fixcat cannot fix.
12:37 <T3sl4> this grammer is upped, with which we will not fuck.
13:22 <Halcyon> Feeb
13:25 <Halcyon> One boiled egg
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22:27 <Halcyon> Mmm ramen
22:55 <helpplz> the world runs on ramen
22:59 <Halcyon> It does
23:05 <Halcyon> The spicier the better
23:28 <helpplz> i put a egg in mine and cook it in the microwave
23:41 * T3sl4 cooks an egg in Halcyon's butt
23:48 <Halcyon> That's not where it goes!
23:55 <helpplz> lol
24:14 <T3sl4> the popularity of ovipositor toys showed that was a lie
24:48 <Halcyon> I need to look that up
25:11 <Halcyon> Riiiiight
25:26 <T3sl4> hahaha
25:36 <Halcyon> The world continues to surprise
26:02 <T3sl4> you're the last person i'd expect to get a little "exit only!" about their butt
26:03 <helpplz> umm kegel eggs?_?
26:11 <T3sl4> but it seems everyone has their limits ;)
26:15 <T3sl4> helpplz: that too!
26:21 <helpplz> :D
26:25 <Halcyon> Oh, it's not that
26:35 <Halcyon> It's just that, why do THOSE things exist?
26:53 <T3sl4> if it exists, there is porn of it, and by extension, sextoy of it too i suppose
27:28 <Halcyon> People are weird
28:19 <helpplz> https://res.cloudinary.com/jerrick/image/upload/w_720/frxk50wjoxwncqkwe5k3.jpg
28:22 <helpplz> :D
28:25 <helpplz> too funny
28:35 <Halcyon> Yuhuh
30:39 <helpplz> imagine getting rich off that :D
31:16 <Halcyon> "What do you do?"... "Oh I work in manufacturing"... "What do you make"... "Ummm... models"
31:28 <helpplz> xD
35:51 <Halcyon> Gees why are flat earthers also commonly anti-vaxxers?
36:28 <T3sl4> because they're highly susceptible to manipulation?
37:57 <Halcyon> I was thinking more mental illness but that's slack on those who actually suffer from debilitating mental illnesses, as opposed to those who are just fucking dumb.
40:04 <helpplz> bit of a generalization i dont think all people with mental illness are suffering from it
40:33 <T3sl4> surely fucking dumbness is a mental illness, to the same extent that any other condition is by degree
40:48 <helpplz> xD
41:12 <Halcyon> Yeh I agree
41:54 <Halcyon> I mean it's fine not to be bright, but to be completely deluded almost to the point where you can't function as a normal person, there's a problem there
42:17 <Halcyon> It's like being afraid of the wind
42:56 <gremlinz> @ 300km/hr i
43:01 <gremlinz> d be afraid
45:16 <MrMobodies> Well I thought I'd give a release of that Chromium a try. https://chromium.woolyss.com/
45:38 <MrMobodies> I forgot about it and Ampera sort of reminded me
45:54 <MrMobodies> One thing i have noticed and I really like... when I open tabs, they don't flash
46:26 <MrMobodies> a long going issue that I noticed for many years
46:45 <MrMobodies> menu is a little smaller
46:50 <helpplz> flash?
47:01 <MrMobodies> Lets say I am on pfsense webpage
47:33 <MrMobodies> and I open up lets say dhcp, and I have 12 of them to set
47:36 <MrMobodies> I would open 12 taqbs
47:42 <MrMobodies> from the first tab
47:49 <MrMobodies> now when I click these tabs at first
48:01 <MrMobodies> the page loads up and sort of flashes
48:17 <MrMobodies> so I click on all of them so they flash first and stop doing that
48:25 <helpplz> like blinking?
48:29 <MrMobodies> yes
48:34 <MrMobodies> it hurts my eyes
48:49 <helpplz> o
48:51 <MrMobodies> but it doesn't do it on that Chromium build
49:09 <MrMobodies> it is like an improvement already and with the smaller menus
49:28 <helpplz> my eyes hurt with that too but only when the room is dark and the screen is the only light
50:04 <MrMobodies> the room is a little dark but it does irritate me even when it is lit in the day
50:29 <MrMobodies> it is instant with the page loads
52:09 <MrMobodies> I was skeptical at first that it will be exactly the same but I see it has small differences that actually work in my favour for a change
55:05 <MrMobodies> Youtube. Gets into fullscreen much quicker like Palemoon and playback seek is instant.
55:43 <helpplz> i use multiple browsers
55:56 <MrMobodies> me too
56:12 <MrMobodies> Now I can give me eyes a rest from that flashing/blinking
57:21 <MrMobodies> actually it was set in 720p but it still good past that
57:49 <MrMobodies> and that YTP.button streaming button doesn't seem to appear.
58:27 <helpplz> yah they all have ther ups and downs so i have to rotate
02:29 <MrMobodies> Well I am not going to click that streaming buttons accidentally anymore. It seems exclusive by builds
02:31 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/jeg2Sks.jpg
03:46 <helpplz> lol i got a lot of the same recommendations like that two 6 pack thing
03:55 <MrMobodies> I got rid of the back/fastword button, dark gradients on mouse hover, spinners, and
04:15 <MrMobodies> Two six pack thing?
04:19 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/B2Xd7kV.gif
04:45 <MrMobodies> I like that
05:56 <helpplz> the guy who fixes old radio equipment mrcarlsons lab
06:42 <MrMobodies> I am starting to like them too
12:34 <MrMobodies> Well I am pleased also page scrolls quicker and smoother even on Yahoo
12:39 <MrMobodies> Must go to sleep
12:50 <helpplz> good night :)
54:21 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/zelda/comments/f40hvs/botw_me_alone_on_valentines_day_night/
13:11 * Halcyon mews at T3sl4 
14:44 <steve30> A Halcyon!
14:49 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
15:36 <Halcyon> I'm watching some pommy bloke make Stinging Nettle soup
15:59 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIp_Euqb4l8
16:06 <Halcyon> Never would I have thought you could eat that
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17:28 <Halcyon> What have you been up to this week Steve ?
18:17 <steve30> hmm, I went to the gym on wendesday, and did a bit of playing with my BBC computer the other day, but otherwise not much
18:27 <Halcyon> Nice :)
20:23 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/energy_monitor/bbc_lcd.jpg
21:12 <Halcyon> Oh cool
21:17 <Halcyon> That looks really neat
25:07 <steve30> I also got a Palm IIIxe
25:18 <Halcyon> Oh yeh you said you got one on ebay
25:20 <Halcyon> How is it?
25:38 <steve30> nice
25:47 <steve30> although I haven't put any software on it yet
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30:55 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir :)
31:41 * steve30 fancies some food
31:54 <Halcyon> I just made fried rice
32:12 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, you're bacl? How was your Vacation?
32:24 <Halcyon> Hehe wasn't really a holiday, I working
32:31 * steve30 nibbles on Halcyon's food
32:40 <Halcyon> *was
33:11 <Ysjoelfir> meh :D
33:28 <Halcyon> But it was nice driving 15 minutes to work instead of 1 hour, 15 mins
34:58 <Ysjoelfir> I bet it was
35:09 <Ysjoelfir> meanwhile, I decided to get sick
35:18 <Halcyon> That was silly of you
35:33 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I know. But I'm.... I would say, around 87% good again
35:41 <Halcyon> Hooray
37:23 <Halcyon> This is a big tape machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciYcGfM4siY
38:01 Quit: dkudriavtsev ([email protected]) Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
39:36 <Ysjoelfir> that is realy rather big oO
41:07 <steve30> cool
41:29 <steve30> also, he's cute
41:35 <Ysjoelfir> woah! it has Schlafaugenschalter!
41:39 <Halcyon> Yeh he is, although he could do with a hair cut
41:42 <Ysjoelfir> yes, he is.
41:44 <Halcyon> It has what?
41:46 <Ysjoelfir> nah, i like the hair
41:51 <Ysjoelfir> wait, i look for a translation
42:09 <Ysjoelfir> erm.... doesn't seem to exist
42:24 <Ysjoelfir> the three switches on the bottom left of the "remote control"
42:46 <Halcyon> The monitor controls?
43:12 <Ysjoelfir> yes. they look like they have lights in them, but actually its just a colored dot and a black plastic dist that slips over the dot when depressed
43:27 <Halcyon> Yup
43:32 <Halcyon> I love those switches
43:37 <Ysjoelfir> I have some of them here, salvaged from old stuff. In germany we call those "Schlafaugentaster" - Sleep-Eye-Buttons
43:46 <Halcyon> I also love illuminated buttons you get on professional audio and video gear
43:55 <Halcyon> I have those on my VHS deck
44:52 * steve30 cuddles up to Halcyon 
44:58 <Halcyon> :)
48:48 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: https://youtu.be/ciYcGfM4siY?t=1161
48:55 <Halcyon> Some rather nice German words there
50:27 <Ysjoelfir> Vormagnetosierung, indeed :D
50:32 <Ysjoelfir> *magnetisierung
51:12 <steve30> That looks like a nice machine
51:51 <Ysjoelfir> it's so strange how german words tend to be ultra long and english equivalents are mostly vers short
52:10 <Halcyon> Yup
54:12 <Ysjoelfir> lol... I'm watching a video about someone building a cylinder head. he says spark plug pretty often.
54:18 <Ysjoelfir> suddenly from behind me:
54:28 <Ysjoelfir> "why do you watch a video about buttplugs???"
54:45 <Halcyon> Hah
54:50 <steve30> :)
02:29 <steve30> I'm cold
03:45 <Ysjoelfir> and I'm annoyed from our politicians
03:53 * Ysjoelfir throws a blanket over steve30
05:03 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/h5wwqwd490h41.jpg hmm
05:21 <Ysjoelfir> XD
05:25 <Halcyon> Hahah
05:33 <Halcyon> Mmmm sushi
11:19 <Halcyon> Another storm
11:41 <Halcyon> They seem to be coming right over might house today
12:23 <steve30> have all your bush fires gone out now?
13:29 <T3sl4> better question, are the post-fire floods gone now?
13:39 <Halcyon> Yes to both
13:47 <Halcyon> Some are still burning but all are under control
13:56 <Halcyon> Many are completely out
14:14 <Halcyon> https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fires-near-me
16:15 <T3sl4> that's good
16:55 <T3sl4> hopefully things will regrow quickly, which i guess will depend on winter rain/snow and the rest of next year
17:03 <Halcyon> Yeh it already has
17:08 <Halcyon> Everything is looking very green
17:50 <Halcyon> The Climate change nuts have been very quiet
18:19 <Halcyon> When it's hot and dry they are all over the news. When it pisses down it's all quiet on the Eastern Front
19:52 <Halcyon> This month so far we have had over 110mm of rain
21:06 <Halcyon> Actually over 220mm, was looking at the wrong chart
22:22 <T3sl4> i forget if that's monsoon climate down there or what
22:37 <Halcyon> It's just a typical summer more or less
22:47 <Halcyon> Periods of hot followed by lots of rain and storms
33:39 <steve30> we've had a bit of wind here this last week
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40:39 <Halcyon> steve30: This guy is totally a Nordic version of you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeC54AKdDzU
40:40 <Halcyon> Hahah
41:05 <Halcyon> He has the same eyes as me though which is a bit creepy
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43:22 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/f42pkm/in_the_devil_went_down_the_georgia_johnny/fhnzsy4/?context=8&depth=9
45:04 <Halcyon> Hahah "Schlob"
45:13 <Halcyon> Wow, it went downhill fast
08:09 <Halcyon> Oh wow, apparently "Apple computers are vulnerable to Malware/Viruses" is news now
08:22 <Halcyon> Have people been living under a rock?
13:13 <ibiza> Halcyon...
13:19 <ibiza> are you still having dropouts?
13:53 <Halcyon> Nah I have a stability profile enabled on my connection for now
14:14 <ibiza> so no more than 5 dropouts per day?
14:24 <Halcyon> Nah hasn't been an issue for a while
14:31 <ibiza> alright cool
14:34 <Halcyon> I mean it's still the NBN but yeh
15:02 <Halcyon> It will get worse eventually. This is what always happens.... they wait for the fault to get really bad before they fix that part of the cable
15:24 <Halcyon> Rather than just replacing all the copper between me and the node, it's always just bandaid fixes
16:06 <ibiza> I had a good connection for awhile, but it went bad for 9 months... my speed was stuffed, i was dropping out more than 5 times a day... i had 7 nbn techs come out, replace cable between my house and somewhere in street no luck... than the last tech said i need to be "double jumpered" he did that and fixed it
16:13 <ibiza> connection is rock solid now
16:50 <Halcyon> Double jumpering means two cables into one socket or patch somewhere
16:55 <Halcyon> Not sure why they would do that
19:23 <Halcyon> Unless you have more than one socket in the house and they've gone from a ring config to a star config
20:48 <Halcyon> The cabling between my modem and the first joint in the street is fine, it's the rest of the crappy decades old copper that is the problem
20:52 <Halcyon> But they won't liste
20:53 <Halcyon> n
23:57 <steve30> Halcyon, do ISPs down there sell FTTC connections as 'fibre'?
24:58 <Halcyon> No there is a distinction between FTTC and FTTH
25:25 <steve30> Most here market FTTC as 'fibre'
25:58 <Halcyon> Yeh here they just tell you what the tech is
26:32 <Halcyon> From a billing point of view it makes no difference
26:46 <Halcyon> You just order the service speed suitable for your physical connection and needs
26:47 <steve30> Its getting worse with some ISPs because they differentiate between services by using names like, 'fast broadband', 'ultrafast', and 'superfast'
27:21 <Halcyon> Yeh here you just order a speed and sometimes a data quota (if it's not unlimited)
27:44 <Halcyon> For example my service is a 50/20 Mbps, but it makes no difference if I'm on FTTN, FTTC, FTTH etc...
27:52 <Halcyon> I just pay for the quality of service
30:37 <Halcyon> Quality is probably not an accurate term, but the maximum speed/download quota. However not all ISPs are equal, the budget ones usually over-provision their customers so during peak time it's shit.
31:03 <Halcyon> You pay a bit more for better peak time speeds because the ISP buy more bandwidth from the core network provider
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45:24 <Lemon> bijour
48:26 <steve30> o/
48:43 <Lemon> how ya doin steve :>
50:29 <steve30> ok
51:43 <Lemon> sseems I got two parcels waiting for me to pickup ;o
51:49 <steve30> yay
52:09 <Lemon> mega yay !
53:53 <Halcyon> Hey Lemon
53:57 <Halcyon> What did you order?
53:59 <steve30> Halcyon, did you see this?
54:00 <steve30> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/14/silly_police_infosec_parental_advice_poster/
54:19 <Halcyon> Bahaha
54:51 <Lemon> hey Halcyon ! well, tons of things :> but those two parcels are an analog wattmeter that goes up to 20kw, and also measures amps/volts, and a systron donner 7205 dmm :>
54:58 <Halcyon> Should your child install Kali Linux, virtual machines (the image on the poster looks like Virtualbox) or internet privacy tool Tor, West Midlands Police wants to know immediately. And if – Heaven forfend – your sprog installs Metasploit to learn how to secure code, uses free chat service for gamers Discord, or gets a Wi-Fi Pineapple for research, you may as well report straight to your nearest prison and abandon your tainted offspring forever.
55:04 <Halcyon> ROFL!
55:08 <Halcyon> Oh gees
55:34 <Lemon> damn !
56:12 <Halcyon> I wonder if this is a recruiting campaign
56:52 <Halcyon> But all those things are basically toys or beginner level stuff. Most Universities use all over the above
57:03 <Halcyon> (although the WiFi pineapple is a bit of a joke)
57:13 <Halcyon> *of
57:24 <Lemon> wheres aircrack ng !
57:36 <Halcyon> Hey now :P You're getting too advanced :P
57:47 <Halcyon> Although it's part of Kali so...
58:02 <Lemon> haha I remember when I was younger, I was fascinated by backtrack !
58:21 * steve30 has Kali on a CD
58:29 <Halcyon> C...D... ?
58:30 <Halcyon> :P
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58:52 <steve30> could be a DVD
59:09 <Halcyon> I mean, I love optical media, but why not a USB flash drive?
59:21 <steve30> i don't have any
59:31 <Halcyon> Oh gees, remind me to send you a packet full
59:38 <Halcyon> I have hundreds of the damn things
00:03 <steve30> The one occasion I wanted to use Kali linux about 5 year ago, I wasn't going to go out and buy a drive specially
00:39 <Lemon> for my case it would have been going out to buy a CD specifically :>
01:05 <Halcyon> I mean I have a stack of blank CDs
01:12 <Halcyon> But I usually use them for old puters
01:55 <Halcyon> Steve: This guy is cute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouIEFhn_l40
01:59 <Lemon> I dont remember the last time
02:07 <Lemon> hmm I will wait a bit to get my parcels
02:15 <Lemon> will have to'
03:01 <steve30> He's not my type
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39:35 <Lemon> I actually like waiting a bit to get my parcels
39:41 <Lemon> I enjoy it even more
40:03 <Lemon> but lets be honest, the hunting for those pieces of gear is the best part
13:28 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I don't remember The Greatest American Hero being Liberal vs right ring politics... https://t.co/AP5GXcG9Pa
44:15 <steve30> I just got a letter from a "Tier 3 Escalations Specialist"
45:16 <Ysjoelfir> and what is that supposed to be? Oo
45:21 <Ysjoelfir> do they sell escalators?
45:32 <Lemon> I dont like letters
46:00 <steve30> god knows
05:32 <steve30> Apparently they are going to have a "full and thorough investigation" into my complaint, but they will not be able to tell me the outcome of this.
09:25 <Ysjoelfir> So I assume you complained about something?
10:28 <steve30> yup
10:34 <steve30> See http://stevecoates.net/customer_service/bus_complaint/
27:18 <Ysjoelfir> yikes oO
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