// #eevblog — 2020-02-13
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00:01:20 <DHess_US> installing coffee?
00:01:34 <rust_collector> yes.
00:02:29 <rust_collector> I put it in my stomach, then unpackage it to go into the places it needs to be to work
00:03:24 <Ysjoelfir> I recently had to change the belt of the servo pump in my 940... I was like "so, dear girlfriend, let me just quickly change that belt, then we can go"
00:03:26 <Ysjoelfir> - half an hour later she came to ask me if we will ever go or if we stay one more day...
00:03:44 <Ysjoelfir> half an hour was meant to be an hour and a half
00:04:13 <rust_collector> hehe, yes. I did the steering belt before christmas. it is behind this rotten one.
00:04:32 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't notice when just glancing in there that that damn belt is the last of the three -.-
00:05:01 <rust_collector> but, you know, when you tighten the belt, by swinging the alternator a bit?
00:05:10 <Ysjoelfir> and for sure, the AC compressor didn't want to let go... so I had to use the russian method to get that old belt off and back on
00:05:24 <rust_collector> Hmm, in this case, it was the power steering pump, but...
00:05:45 <Ysjoelfir> nah. it has that three belt setup because of the AC. so I had to undo the alternator belt and the AC belt before I could get the steering belt off
00:06:29 <rust_collector> anyway, there was a random bolt, that had dropped in behind the pump and the block. That was difficult to get loose enough, lol
00:06:57 <Ysjoelfir> don't we all love our belts?
00:07:30 <rust_collector> I wonder how long she will make me keep this damn car alive
00:08:20 <Ysjoelfir> what car is it?
00:08:47 <rust_collector> it is a....2002 or 2003 chrysler voyager, with the big 2.4
00:09:51 <Ysjoelfir> I actually liked those when they were sold under the Plymouth brand
00:10:08 <Ysjoelfir> but since the 90s... meh. its to round
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00:10:19 <rust_collector> she used to have a 1998, with the 2.0 and manual. it was slow, but it was reasonably "cheap" to run
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00:10:30 <Ysjoelfir> whoops
00:10:44 <rust_collector> the auto box in these things is pretty horrible
00:11:09 <Ysjoelfir> what is an auto box?
00:11:19 <rust_collector> transmission
00:11:23 <Ysjoelfir> ah
00:11:24 <Ysjoelfir> ok
00:12:19 <rust_collector> I had an .89, with the mitsubishi 3.0. it was much nicer is some ways
00:12:51 <rust_collector> more usable space inside
00:14:05 <rust_collector> I did try to use "tractor fluid" in the gearbox on that one, Ie, hydraulic oil, gear oil, and random other oil in one
00:14:22 <rust_collector> it did seem to work well. it ran cooler.
00:14:27 <Ysjoelfir> imho thats a general problem on newer cars.. they get rounder and rounder and rounder... and suddenly you can't even load an cabinet in there anymore...
00:14:38 <rust_collector> right
00:14:50 <Ysjoelfir> did you do that intentional?
00:14:54 <rust_collector> yes
00:15:27 <Ysjoelfir> I am somehow expecting some kind of "...but!"
00:15:46 <rust_collector> now, it did not work quiet as well as I wanted...
00:15:49 <rust_collector> so yes
00:16:13 <rust_collector> the thing with the 4 speed fwd chrysler transmissions...
00:16:56 <rust_collector> they try to get up to temp faster, to...get up to temp. so making it run cooler pretty much disabled the lockup
00:17:17 <rust_collector> if you ran it for some time, to let it heat up more, it was fine
00:18:07 <Ysjoelfir> meh. oO
00:18:45 <rust_collector> I ran that sort of oil in the old 3 speeds just fine
00:19:38 <rust_collector> the bad thing with it, is that it has no colour, so it is hard to see on the stick
00:20:14 <Ysjoelfir> I assume many "special" oils the manufacturers want you to use are just overpriced and without any particular benefit
00:20:31 <rust_collector> some times
00:20:43 <Ysjoelfir> otoh, many people are like "noooo, don't use "to good" oil if the manufacturer tells you to use 100 year old horsepee!"
00:21:47 <rust_collector> there is a little bit of truth to that, but not too much
00:22:55 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, some people say that a great oil could loosen up old oil crusts which could clog up the canals in the motor
00:23:18 <rust_collector> yeah, some oils have more detergents than others
00:24:41 <Ysjoelfir> I use 0W50 in all my vehicles... not that much more expensive than regular 10W40 from reputable brands and works great.
00:24:43 <Ysjoelfir> and: you see more or less instantly when you have a leak somewhere :D
00:25:40 <rust_collector> hmm, what makes you think you should use 50 weight in that thing?
00:25:58 <rust_collector> it will probably work fine in the old tank, but
00:27:22 <rust_collector> but yes, 0w or 5w is not a bad idea in those
00:34:31 <Ysjoelfir> should? nothing. can? just tried it and it worked.
00:34:42 <Ysjoelfir> thats the reason why, so... nothing realy
00:34:47 <rust_collector> sure
00:37:10 <Ysjoelfir> ah
00:37:19 <Ysjoelfir> have to correct that - it is 0W40 that I buy
00:37:32 <rust_collector> ok, that sounds more normal
00:37:54 <Ysjoelfir> yes, you made me check that by raising some doubt :D
00:39:10 <Ysjoelfir> usually I use that: https://www.amazon.de/MANNOL-Legend-Vollsynthetisches-Motoroel-Technology/dp/B07415M25V/ref=sr_1_23?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=0w50+10l&qid=1581514603&sr=8-23
00:39:22 <Ysjoelfir> but the last time I tried this: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B009GHNOK6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
00:39:59 <Ysjoelfir> can't realy notice any difference between them, except the price
00:40:09 <rust_collector> I have had some really worn out engines, where I just use whatever is cheap, and mix in some old general purpose axle grease.
00:40:55 <Ysjoelfir> ok, my B230ft is nearly fresh out of the factory
00:41:15 <Ysjoelfir> this morning It reached 460Mm
00:41:29 <rust_collector> it is still built in a factory with tolerances you can do with a chainsaw
00:43:32 <rust_collector> 460 ManoMeter is just broken in, lol
00:44:42 <rust_collector> hmm, talking about broken, the kids pc is still not working. so now we have to listen to kid #1 nagging about that
00:46:20 <rust_collector> one guy on the internet says a capacitor on the mb is doing something it should not, I think the temp sensor in the cpu is broken, and the repair shop just replaced the cooler with a larger model than it had
00:48:37 <rust_collector> I guess all 3 things sort of makes sense
00:49:57 <Ysjoelfir> thats what i say.... half a Gigameter is nothing for that old redblock :)
00:50:04 <rust_collector> the "tuning" program from amd says the cpu is using too much current, so that could be the cap, I guess. the same program says the temp is around 60, then a little blip of -50 or so, then back to 60...
00:50:20 <Ysjoelfir> strange oO
00:50:35 <rust_collector> just make sure the oil lines for the turbo does not get clogged up over time
00:51:21 <rust_collector> the rest is pretty bulletproof
00:52:37 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I will look for that when it is warm enough to work on it again. wanted to also disassemble the intake manifold, clean the.... erm...
00:52:37 <Ysjoelfir> that thing that controls the amount of air (Drosselklappe in german) and the oil blow off thing from the crank case.
00:52:53 <Ysjoelfir> what cpu and mainboard does the pc have?
00:53:09 <rust_collector> yes, throttle body and pcv
00:53:47 <rust_collector> it has an asus blah blahblah blah and an amd dingding7 2700x, I think it was, lol
00:54:09 <rust_collector> I really do not feel like being down there right now
00:54:40 <Ysjoelfir> then just tell him to save up for a new one^^
00:56:31 <rust_collector> Now, it is a bit tricky, because he thinks he should replace the mb. which is a thing. but if it is the cpu, that is sort of a waste. and the cpu is not exactly cheap, and it could be the mb. Oh well. mrs thewife is talking to the srpair place
00:57:20 <Ysjoelfir> let her handle it :) more free time for you ;)
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01:27:37 <rust_collector> yep, so that was a: the wrong fan belt, and b: they are taking the confuser back. She was told to write a note with a case number and blahblah, then "prio". so now I know that I should put prio on anything I need before 2-3 weeks
01:30:08 <Ysjoelfir> aah, wrong parts are my favourite parts. xD very nice.
01:30:35 <rust_collector> one more reason to get an old lada
01:30:43 <rust_collector> lada parts are universal
01:31:10 <rust_collector> they are almost like an old version of subaru
01:31:22 <Ysjoelfir> just use your wifes underwear as a belt replacement :)
01:31:44 <rust_collector> I did try that once, when I had a car with a v belt
01:32:27 <rust_collector> There was nothing wrong with my belt, but I say the nylon things on a rack in the store
01:32:34 <rust_collector> saw
01:32:37 <Ysjoelfir> should work I guess :)
01:32:53 <rust_collector> It sort of did, as long as I kept the lights off
01:33:09 <Ysjoelfir> you just didn't wrap it tight enough!
01:34:12 <rust_collector> I got from the store to my job. there was not much left of them, but it got me off the mountain in a blizzard with -60c and heavy rain
01:34:30 <Ysjoelfir> that's all that counts. ;)
01:34:34 <rust_collector> except it was in the middle of summer and by the coast
01:35:07 <Ysjoelfir> lol :) anyway, I'm off... heading home, feel like getting sick :X
01:35:28 <rust_collector> good plan
01:35:45 <Ysjoelfir> getting sick or going home?
01:35:50 <rust_collector> yes
01:35:56 <Ysjoelfir> ah.
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20:20:00 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:35 2020
20:20:00 <helpplz> the thing is im kinda noobie
20:20:00 <helpplz> i just wanna cut the trebble out of my little amp ... RC low pass seemed the simplest
20:20:00 <helpplz> also i dont have a scope
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20:20:00 <helpplz> how do i do it with out a scope
20:20:00 <helpplz> ok i see now what you said
20:20:00 <helpplz> and no to the SP LPF
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20:20:00 <helpplz> o ok i get it now i need to know the frequency i want to cut out
20:20:00 <helpplz> how do i get that with basically nothing
20:20:00 <helpplz> :D
20:20:00 <helpplz> i cant believe they tossed that LENOVO :( your so lucky
20:20:00 <helpplz> 0.0000003185 Ω
20:20:00 <helpplz> what value resistor is that?
20:20:00 <helpplz> wait thats wrong
20:20:00 <helpplz> 0.3184713376 Ω
20:20:00 <helpplz> ther
20:20:00 <helpplz> i dont have a resistor i need can you just hook up 2 resistors in series?
20:20:00 <helpplz> ok thats a yes
20:20:00 <helpplz> ok i got it to 3.18 Ω can i use two 2.2 resistors instead
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20:20:00 <DHess_US> Eww, looking worse and worse. The forecast low keeps getting revised lower and may go negative.
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20:40:39 <Lemon> hello peeps
20:50:45 <coppice_> peeps? its not Easter yet
20:54:37 <Lemon> but but
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21:22:47 <K> hello
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21:24:14 <Lemon> hello K
22:05:12 <steve30> o/
22:07:20 <Lemon> so that resistor box would cost me a total of 80 euros
22:08:06 <Lemon> from 0,1 to 1,1001M ohms, 2W, 50ppm/C
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22:12:56 <K> including the box?
22:14:53 <Lemon> yeah
22:15:24 <K> seems reasonable
22:15:26 <Lemon> a box, two precision 10 turns pots, 4 switches with 10 resistors for the 1M range, two banana plugs and two caps for those pots
22:15:50 <Lemon> I'll use 100k and a 100ohms bourns pots
22:16:02 <Lemon> that way I can use a dmm to read the value
22:16:12 <Lemon> it will be more precise than a regular decade box
22:32:35 * rust_collector is back!
22:32:53 <rust_collector> hey Lemon
22:33:00 <Lemon> hey rusty
22:33:08 <rust_collector> are things ok?
22:33:36 <Lemon> well I feel like Ive been into a carwreck but im alright
22:33:38 <rust_collector> I see ysjoelfir died, that is sad, I wanted to blackmail more stuff out of him
22:33:49 <Lemon> shiet again ?
22:34:44 <rust_collector> I think he got the man-corona, and man-died
22:35:52 <Lemon> aff I hope he'll reborn soon
22:36:13 <rust_collector> yeah, I need my victim
22:36:22 <Lemon> hey they got the 100 ohm pot
22:36:28 <Lemon> I spent 1 hour looking for it
22:36:31 <Lemon> fucking mouser
22:36:44 <rust_collector> pothead
22:37:23 <Lemon> https://www.mouser.fr/ProductDetail/616-71894-510-000
22:37:27 <Lemon> what do you think of that box ?
22:37:36 <Lemon> plugs on front, pots/switches on top
22:38:47 <Lemon> its not a definitive choice
22:39:06 <Lemon> I think I need at least 150mm by 100mm, and around 40mm height
22:39:29 <rust_collector> hmm, well, it looks boxy enough. I think I would use a more... industrial looking box, but otoh, you can get this one
22:40:53 <rust_collector> I guess this is a thing you have to, or will move around a lot. If not, I think I would get a wider box, and put the knobs on the front as well, so you can pile crap on top of it.
22:40:53 <Lemon> yeah me too honestly
22:41:01 <Lemon> if you can find one, that would help me
22:41:16 <Lemon> hmmm on the front idk
22:41:33 <Lemon> it will be hard to put two knobs and 4 switches on the front, + two plugs
22:41:46 <Lemon> I need to put down layouts
22:41:47 <rust_collector> yes, on that box it will
22:42:01 <Lemon> im right handed, gotta take that on account too
22:42:18 <Lemon> I think the best is a box approx the same form Ive shown you, but maybe more industrial as you said
22:42:23 <Lemon> a plain black box
22:42:28 <rust_collector> but I don't know if it will have its own spot on the bench, or if it is a thing you will throw in there when you need it
22:42:30 <Lemon> and put everything on top of it
22:42:38 <Lemon> ho I'll move it I think
22:42:50 <rust_collector> ok, then knobs on top is fine
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22:43:01 <Lemon> I think its best to put plugs on the side/front, so they arent on the way
22:44:08 <Lemon> Id like to spend less than 8 euros on the box
22:44:13 <Lemon> to stay under 80 euros, which is already steep
22:44:22 <Lemon> but afterall it will be a nice tool
22:44:27 <Lemon> made with quality parts
22:44:36 <rust_collector> yeah, but if you do it right, you will have it "forever"
22:45:25 <Lemon> exactly
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22:46:00 <rust_collector> so, if we figure you will live until you are 53, you will just pay a little bit each year
22:47:01 <Lord_of_nothing|43> Hi
22:47:06 <Lord_of_nothing|43> is any server expert here?
22:50:02 <rust_collector> looks like.... maybe?
22:50:56 <rust_collector> did you break a server?
22:53:15 <Lord_of_nothing|43> not yet
22:53:21 <Lord_of_nothing|43> i am intend to buy one
22:53:23 <Lord_of_nothing|43> https://www.servershop24.de/server/hp/dl-serie/hpe-proliant-dl380-gen9-v3-entry-server-mit-1x-xeon-e5-1603v3-quad-core-2-80-ghz-16-gb-ddr4-ram-2x-2-tb-sata-7-2k/a-120866/
22:53:36 <Lord_of_nothing|43> what i need:
22:53:39 <rust_collector> hmm, ok
22:53:52 <Lord_of_nothing|43> 3,5" bays
22:54:01 <Lord_of_nothing|43> space for my Raid controller
22:54:09 <Lemon> hmm its a tad expensive
22:54:17 <Lord_of_nothing|43> internal power
22:54:57 <rust_collector> how many raid controllers do you need in it?
22:55:06 <Lemon> whats your max budget ?
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22:56:25 <Lemon> my workstation is some sort of frankenstein with server parts
22:56:33 <Lord_of_nothing|43> well... less is more
22:56:37 <Lord_of_nothing|43> HP PCI-E Power Cable / Stromkabel, 2x 6-pin - ProLiant DL380 Gen9 - 755742-001 / 670728-002
22:56:46 <Lord_of_nothing|43> the have this cable for internal power
22:56:51 <Lemon> theres two e5 2698 v3's, 64gb ddr4 ecc, space for 8 hdds I think
22:57:13 <Lemon> I advise you to aim at a platform that takes ddr3 ecc
22:57:18 <Lemon> its dirt cheap, and you'll need memory
22:57:32 <Lord_of_nothing|43> for?
22:57:42 <Lord_of_nothing|43> the win7 tile render server need not that much
22:58:07 <Lemon> well if you intend to write/read a lot on it, maybe put some vm's idk, its always great to have the bandwith
22:58:15 <Lemon> you just want to put stuff and forget about it ?
22:58:33 <Lord_of_nothing|43> RAM-Upgrade auf 32 GB DDR4 Registered ECC (2x 16 GB Module)Details69,99 €
22:58:55 <Lord_of_nothing|43> the upgrad to 32gb cost 70€
22:59:13 <Lord_of_nothing|43> ddr4 32gb ram is not bad i would say
22:59:34 <Lemon> yeah ofc ddr4 is fine, but I mean ddr3 is almost the same, for most applications
22:59:38 <Lemon> and you divide the price by two
22:59:53 <Lemon> also the server overall will be cheaper, with not much less performances
22:59:59 <rust_collector> there are plenty of ancient servers doing hobby use. at least this one does not have pictures of when jesus was young on it
23:00:02 <Lemon> sometimes even more perf as you will be able to aim at higher core counts
23:00:34 <Lemon> for the price of a 6 cores 32gb ddr4 I prefer 64gb ddr3 and a 12 core
23:00:49 <rust_collector> but this can have 22 cores?
23:00:53 <Lemon> the 1603v3 is a tad weak
23:01:06 <Lemon> yeah but the 2699v3 cost a ton
23:01:21 <rust_collector> gawd I am so happy I know nothing about this crap
23:01:22 <Lord_of_nothing|43> currently my server have this: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=37109,82761
23:01:22 <Lemon> I have two 2698v3 right now, I got them for 250 euros each but it was a bargain
23:01:26 <Lemon> they were QS chips
23:01:51 <Lemon> aa x5560
23:01:58 <Lord_of_nothing|43> in specs the are quite the same i guess?
23:02:02 <Lemon> hmmm I think you might be able to upgrade it
23:02:08 <Lord_of_nothing|43> ?
23:02:17 <Lord_of_nothing|43> i will keep my current server
23:02:30 <Lemon> well not exactly they are like 5 years older
23:02:36 <rust_collector> but, I guess you have to think about what you want to use it for. I dunno, but it might be fine
23:02:43 <Lemon> you lack a bit on mem bandwitdh and other stuff
23:02:48 <Lemon> yes exactly
23:02:52 <Lemon> sometimes 10 y/o servers are fine
23:03:09 <rust_collector> how old would this thing be?
23:03:22 <Lemon> with the 1603v3 ?
23:03:31 <rust_collector> the one he is looking at
23:03:31 <Lemon> like 6 years ? something like that
23:04:14 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/DELL-PE-R710-Rack-Server-2x-6-Core-Xeon-X5650-48GB-Caddies-VMWARE-Home-Lab/274216442273?hash=item3fd892d9a1:g:aPMAAOSwgPJeJeAR
23:04:22 <Lemon> see those kind of servers, its old for sure
23:04:31 <Lemon> but those cpus are still pretty neat, 6c12t each
23:04:41 <Lemon> they go high in freq
23:04:47 <Lemon> you get 48gb of ram
23:05:05 <Lemon> 6 bays for 2.5 inch and 4 for 3,5 inch
23:05:15 <Lemon> its just an example gotta find the right config
23:05:28 <rust_collector> sure, you can always do better, but does he need it for the thing he is doing?
23:05:47 <Lord_of_nothing|43> lets say my budget is 500€ - 800€
23:05:59 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R620-10Bay-Server-2x-E5-2650-2GHz-8Core-128GB-10x-Trays-H710/222021648858?_trkparms=aid%3D555021%26algo%3DPL.SIMRVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20190711100440%26meid%3D6f1c112f46f1428a9abe4f6744c9cbb2%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D9%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D182861016341%26itm%3D222021648858%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982
23:06:21 <Lemon> even better, more recent 8c16t cpus, 128gb of ram with 10 trays
23:06:23 <Lord_of_nothing|43> i need:
23:06:38 <Lord_of_nothing|43> 3,5 hdd cages
23:06:46 <Lemon> how many ?
23:06:50 <Lord_of_nothing|43> put in my lsi, broadcom raid controller
23:06:51 <rust_collector> 3.5
23:06:57 <Lemon> :>
23:06:59 <Lord_of_nothing|43> there could never be enought
23:07:10 <Lemon> yeah I know but a bare minimum ?
23:07:26 <Lord_of_nothing|43> raid 5 take 4 with 1 spare
23:07:40 <rust_collector> so, 5?
23:07:53 <Lord_of_nothing|43> 4
23:08:01 <Lord_of_nothing|43> 3x hot + 1 spare
23:08:02 <rust_collector> ok, 4!
23:08:10 <Lemon> a r620 dell could be nice I think
23:08:25 <rust_collector> I sense a dell fanboy
23:08:28 <Lord_of_nothing|43> does the have internal power for cards?
23:08:31 <Lemon> ho not at all xd
23:08:36 <Lemon> but they make great machines
23:08:48 <Lemon> I think yeah, and you get a redundant psu which is nice
23:08:55 <Lemon> dual 750watts
23:09:06 <Lemon> but theres tons of different config
23:09:09 <Lord_of_nothing|43> well you think thats the problem...
23:09:12 <Lemon> you need to find the one that suits you the most
23:09:38 <Lord_of_nothing|43> normally server have only some weird ports on the mainboard to tap the power off
23:10:19 <Lemon> hmm I dont get it
23:10:30 <Lemon> you want internal power to give juice to your extension cards right ?
23:10:40 <Lemon> theres surely that
23:10:47 <Lord_of_nothing|43> yes
23:10:55 <Lord_of_nothing|43> some USB Cards realy need them
23:11:12 <Lemon> yeah usually the mobo gives 75 watts max if im right
23:11:33 <Lord_of_nothing|43> for that some "special" cable are requiered
23:11:51 <Lord_of_nothing|43> servershop24 have them in store
23:14:39 <rust_collector> well, get a special cable?
23:15:56 <Lord_of_nothing|43> do you know there is one avaiable for the dell?
23:16:17 <Lemon> can you show me a picture of that cable you think about ?
23:20:17 <Lord_of_nothing|43> https://www.servershop24.de/komponenten/kabel-adapter/stromversorgung/hp-pci-e-power-cable-stromkabel-2x-6-pin-proliant-dl380-gen9-755742-001-670728-002/a-118036/
23:20:38 <Lord_of_nothing|43> the white plug goes into the server mainboard
23:20:51 <Lord_of_nothing|43> a) the server must have this on the mainboard
23:20:59 <Lord_of_nothing|43> b) there must be a cable for the server
23:21:18 <Lord_of_nothing|43> c) and some one must sell them for a reasonable price i saw them on ebay for 150€!!!
23:22:05 <Lemon> ho well I think finding the right cable wont be a huge issue, and to see if its on the mobo I cant tell you honestly, but im fairly sure they thought about it
23:22:26 <Lemon> well if its that expensive, id make it myself
23:22:41 <Lord_of_nothing|43> sure if you find the connector
23:22:45 <Lord_of_nothing|43> and the pin layout
23:22:50 <Lemon> ho you can pimp it
23:22:55 <Lemon> if you need lets say a 8 pin
23:22:58 <Lemon> you get two 4 pins, etc
23:23:13 <Lemon> those are somewhat usual connectors
23:23:49 <Lord_of_nothing|43> depend on the server manucfator
23:24:15 <Lord_of_nothing|43> in the last 2 years i talked with a lot of sales agents from hp, dell, lenovo about that topic
23:25:54 <rust_collector> YAY!
23:26:04 <Lord_of_nothing|43> ?!
23:27:10 <rust_collector> ok, did they have any answers?
23:31:18 <Lord_of_nothing|43> nope sadly i am not that server guy who know everythink
23:36:59 <Lemon> hmmm someone is selling a nice 5,5 digit dmm for 35 euros
23:39:29 <Lemon> im gonna call him to see how is it
23:39:51 <rust_collector> offff
23:40:04 <Lemon> :///
23:40:19 <Lemon> leboncoin.fr/equipements_industriels/1749437881.htm/
23:40:24 <Lemon> its a nice one honestly
23:40:42 <rust_collector> you should start looking for a rack to stack *mms in
23:41:04 <Lord_of_nothing|43> whats that?
23:41:20 <rust_collector> I like that one
23:41:20 <Lemon> a 5.5 digit dmm
23:41:37 <Lemon> man if he wants like 40-45 euros including shipping, and its working perfectly I buy it
23:41:48 <rust_collector> I know
23:42:16 <Lemon> im still sad about the prema 6k I missed
23:42:22 <Lemon> 75 euros for a 6.5 digit dmm was insane
23:42:27 <rust_collector> Meh, if I had a use for one of those, I would get it
23:42:32 <Lemon> I missed a fluke 287 for 120 euros too
23:42:40 <Lemon> a fluke 45 for 30 euros....
23:42:57 <rust_collector> Yeah, that is a thing, I can not have fluke handhelds
23:43:29 <rust_collector> a bench model would be ok, but I am not getting that anyway
23:44:18 <rust_collector> oooh, a nice soviet meter again
23:44:28 <rust_collector> https://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/817496299.htm/
23:44:34 <rust_collector> I like those things
23:44:43 <rust_collector> or at least the way they looooook
23:45:43 <Lemon> yeah theres the same for 25 euros
23:45:59 <Lemon> he keeps putting it up
23:46:21 <rust_collector> I am not getting one, so I don't care, but I just like the way they look
23:47:53 <Lemon> get one !
23:48:14 <rust_collector> maybe when I go home to moscow
23:57:57 <Lemon> got an answer
23:58:14 <Lemon> its working perfectly, he accepts paypal and to send it, should be aroound 43/45 euros total
23:58:30 <rust_collector> ok, get 2
23:58:37 <Lemon> looks like im buying another bench dmm
23:58:38 <Lemon> ffs
23:58:42 <rust_collector> hah
23:58:43 <Lemon> why am I like this
23:58:49 <rust_collector> you are sick
23:58:55 <Lemon> I think yes
23:59:00 <rust_collector> I know
23:59:07 <rust_collector> that is your problem
23:59:08 <Lemon> but the good thing is I found a perfectly working hp desktop at the scrapyard
23:59:15 <Lemon> I'll be able to sell it for 100/150 euros
23:59:21 <rust_collector> ok?
23:59:25 <Lemon> it will pay for the dmm and that resistor box
23:59:28 <Lemon> which is gud
23:59:42 <rust_collector> I like the hp office kind of machines
23:59:59 <rust_collector> "professional"
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