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38:52 <rust_collector> ooof, one more new day.
45:36 <T3sl4> big oof mood
57:06 <rust_collector> aaaahahahahaaaa!! kid #1 was so excited and happy and stuff, because he got a package, with "silent" fans for his pc
57:54 <rust_collector> after he had looked at them a bit, he remembered that his pc is in a shop to be repaired....
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32:14 <Nothing\> I'M FREE I'M FREE I'M FREE!!!!
32:22 <Nothing\> (sorta)
32:24 <rust_collector> wot?
32:33 <Nothing\> IIIIII'M FREEEEEE!!!!!!!
32:39 <rust_collector> oh ok
32:44 <Nothing\> i got an intermittent sentence
32:52 <Nothing\> that is, to be served on weekends
32:54 <Nothing\> 90 days
32:55 * T3sl4 slaps Nothing\ on the wrist
33:03 <rust_collector> 90 days?
33:14 <Nothing\> which is funny cuz i go in on saturday morning at 9 and come out at 5pm on sunday
33:17 <rust_collector> that is 7 years of weekends!
33:19 <Nothing\> but it counts for 4 days!
33:21 Quit: hsn93 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
33:42 <Nothing\> lol nah only like 6 months
33:58 <rust_collector> heh, what skool did dey go to?
34:04 <Nothing\> man though, i had to spend yesterday in prison to register
34:35 <Nothing\> 45 days of weekends
34:50 <Nothing\> but since each weekend is 90 days it's only 22
34:55 <Nothing\> cuz yesterday counted too
34:56 <Nothing\> lol
34:58 <rust_collector> well, that is a thing you wanted, right? how far away is this place?
35:03 <Nothing\> yup
35:07 <Nothing\> it's just in toronto
35:15 <Nothing\> toronto south detention center
35:34 <rust_collector> I guess 2 places in toronto can be a pretty long walk apart?
35:46 <Nothing\> oooh yeah
36:00 <Nothing\> the place i was in yesterday was in toronto too
36:11 <Nothing\> for some reason they sent me to a different place to register
36:23 <Nothing\> the ride sucked though
36:55 <Nothing\> they kept me in the court house from 11am till like 6pm which sucked cuz i was cuffed and shackled the whole time
37:26 <Nothing\> then on the ride in the paddy wagon there were no windows, it was just a steel box the sized of a.... not even a bathroom
37:40 <Nothing\> it was like one of those japanese water closets in size
37:56 <Nothing\> my cell didn't even fit my bed
38:16 <Nothing\> it was like 7x3.5
38:32 <T3sl4> "patty wagon" sounds delicious if you don't know what it is
38:39 <Nothing\> haha
38:46 <Nothing\> like a wagon wheel patty
39:17 <Nothing\> it certainly was an interesting experience though
39:18 <rust_collector> I vote for bringing back the.... pillory (?)
39:27 <Nothing\> then right after i get home
39:39 <Nothing\> the station calls me, wants me to come in for a dna sample
39:40 <T3sl4> rust_collector: the stocks are going up
39:48 <Nothing\> lololo T3sl4
39:56 <Nothing\> hey T3sl4 lemme ask you something
40:23 <Nothing\> it might be something i'm doing, but whenever i do an AC series RLC analysis, if i use rectangular form i always seem to get the wrong answer
40:36 <T3sl4> rectangular form?
40:40 <Nothing\> not that rectangular form seems very useful
40:54 <Nothing\> yeah, like 35+69i
41:20 <T3sl4> have you checked your multiplication and division?
41:29 <Nothing\> yup
41:49 <Nothing\> i checked it against my polar answers against them
42:08 <Nothing\> actually it might be down to the precision of my calculator
42:30 <Nothing\> cuz i'd only work out the polar answer then convert to rectangular
42:45 <T3sl4> there's a few conjugates you need to remember when calculating current or power, i forget which
42:45 <Nothing\> i should take another stab at it
43:06 <T3sl4> don't be afraid to write it out both ways, would be a good exercise for a weekend :)
43:07 <Nothing\> ah i was just using ohm's law
43:28 <Nothing\> what i should do is learn network analysis lol
43:57 <Nothing\> never did learn mesh/node analysis
44:05 <Nothing\> been meaning to though!
44:06 <Nothing\> lol
44:40 <Nothing\> that's the problem with learning on your own, big gaps in knowledge
44:41 <T3sl4> another good one
44:59 <T3sl4> yeah wouldn't hurt to have a textbook on hand, and just run through the examples and problems
49:11 <Nothing\> i can't find a good legit textbook, but i've been using the textbook section from all about circuits, it seems to be pretty solid
49:28 <Nothing\> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/
49:59 <Nothing\> most of what i learned came from there
52:23 <Nothing\> oh wow, this place i'm going to is the second largest prison in canada
54:42 <rust_collector> maybe you should steal a car, and drive to mexico? I think that is what you are supposed to do
55:21 <T3sl4> but that would entail driving through USA, the prison capital of the world
55:27 <rust_collector> maybe that is a bit tricky, if you are only doing weekends
56:25 <Nothing\> lol
58:58 <Nothing\> ah my ass hurts from those concrete benches they had
59:07 <Nothing\> you'd think my ass would hurt for other reasons
59:38 <rust_collector> not yet, they have to have you registered first
05:48 <Nothing\> is that what they're calling it now?
06:21 <Nothing\> those benches suck ass though, barely a foot wide
06:31 <Nothing\> i was half tempted to sleep on the floor
07:08 <rust_collector> are you sure you went to the right place? I think it sounds like you went to church?
07:15 <Nothing\> lol
08:56 <Ampera> Hi Nothing\
08:58 <Ampera> how are you doing
09:03 <Nothing\> hey Ampera!!!!
09:08 <Nothing\> i'm doing terrific!
09:11 <Nothing\> i'm free!!!
09:14 <Ampera> What?
09:23 <Ampera> You had your sentencing?
09:25 <Nothing\> remember, my sentencing was on monday
09:27 <Nothing\> yeah-
09:32 <Ampera> what did they give you
09:38 <Nothing\> 90 days on weekends
09:41 <Nothing\> but get this
09:49 <Nothing\> each weekend counts for 4 days
09:55 <Ampera> cor
10:01 <Nothing\> even though i go in 9am saturday and leave 5pm sunday
10:11 <Ampera> that's fucking excellent
10:13 <Nothing\> it's in toronto, but still
10:26 <Nothing\> toronto south detention center
10:42 <Nothing\> i spent the day in jail on monday to register and that counts too lol
10:57 <Nothing\> which kinda sucked, i was cuffed and shackled the whole time but oh well
11:12 <Nothing\> i took a crapton of clonazepam so i just slept trhough it
18:12 <Ampera> Nothing\, well I'm actually at work right now
18:30 <Ampera> I got an absolutely stellar job doing QA, and the pay is incredible.
18:39 <Ampera> I make more than my mom who does insurance.
34:24 <Nothing\> haha that's awesome
34:29 <Nothing\> good on you, man
34:37 <Nothing\> i'm proud of you, i really am
43:43 <Ampera> Well I'm happy you won't be stuck in a hole for the next 2 years :P
49:40 <rust_collector> who knows? maybe he likes it, when he gets used to it?
50:23 <Ampera> That's the sort of logic that has defended serial rapists and sex traffickers for generations.
50:45 <Ampera> Fuck do I wish someone would traffick and rape me.
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49:34 <Lemon> waddup mah bois
50:32 <rust_collector> eh? dup?
52:12 <Lemon> :>
52:26 <Lemon> my favorite part of the day
52:37 <Lemon> lets check new stuff for sale on local area !
54:35 <rust_collector> yes, a dual power supply, that is made in... local-ish area
54:43 <Lemon> ho I have that its alright
54:47 <Lemon> I calibrated it last night
55:02 <rust_collector> I didn't say you had to buy it,
55:14 <Lemon> no I think I'll pull the trigger on something I wanted to get for a few weeks
55:15 <rust_collector> but is that one french?
55:17 <Lemon> which is a lcr meter
55:22 <rust_collector> ok
55:25 <Lemon> hmmmmm
55:28 <Lemon> I dont think so
55:33 <Lemon> its a topward tds 4000
55:41 <rust_collector> I think you have to find a frence one
57:08 <Lemon> I have a waveform generator which is french :>
57:19 <Lemon> and maybe the clamp meter, if the seller decide to answer
58:23 <rust_collector> hmm, can the waveform generator generate a dc "wave"?
58:55 <rust_collector> nice constant voltage
59:38 <Lemon> its not possible no ?
01:28 <rust_collector> arrgh
04:22 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/2020XJW01-Auto-LCR-Digital-Bridge-Resistance-Capacitance-Inductance-ESR-Meter/122468193870?_trkparms=aid%3D555021%26algo%3DPL.SIMRVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20190711100440%26meid%3D9e55509a7c714f06be20bcab274b302a%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D7%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D274212379163%26itm%3D122468193870%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047
04:22 <Lemon> 675&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982
04:23 <Lemon> heres the meter
04:29 <Lemon> its kinda... weird
04:35 <Lemon> but the specs are pretty neat
05:01 <Lemon> down to 10 femto farads, 100 nano henrys, and 100 micro ohms I believe up to high ranges
05:15 <Lemon> and it measures tons of things like the loss, Q, ESR and stuff that I dont know about
05:26 <Lemon> its in metal and comes with accessories, which is nice
05:42 <Lemon> I might change those button caps for a single color, and redo the serigraphy
06:02 <Lemon> I need it if I want to make some precision standards, and to test my salvaged parts
07:18 <rust_collector> no, it is just that you need it
08:22 <Lemon> yeah I need it
08:42 <rust_collector> ok, so go go go
08:51 <rust_collector> or, pay pay pay
09:16 <Lemon> yeah yeah
09:26 <Lemon> I hate waiting for stuff that cost more than a few bucks
10:15 <rust_collector> i guess you should start early
10:29 <Lemon> I'll buy it right now
10:48 <rust_collector> good, so we can get back to the french dual power supply
11:15 <Lemon> another supply is not on the list :>
11:50 <rust_collector> what list?
11:59 <Lemon> its a figure of speech
12:07 <Lemon> well not totally in fact
12:20 <Lemon> I try to get things that I need, and eventually cheap things I see or insane deals
12:31 <Lemon> like the HB multimeter in nice shape for 16 euros, or stuff like that
12:37 <Lemon> it can always be useful
12:57 <Lemon> I wanted a scope, dmm, psu, lcr meter
13:12 <Lemon> and maybe an electrometer if I find a cheap one but well
16:43 <Lemon> and I need cables
16:49 <Lemon> im tired of shitty cables
17:17 <Lemon> I want some nice banana to crocodile cables, and maybe banana male to male to connect a dmm to the supply
22:19 <DHess_US> You can buy small spools of the rubber insulated test lead wire and make your own.
22:25 <DHess_US> Otherwise, Pomona has some nice test leads.
22:40 <Lemon> well I thought at either of those two options yeah
23:14 <DHess_US> I prefer the rubber insulated wire to the alternatives except maybe silicone.
23:31 <Lemon> how is it compared to silicone?
23:42 <Lemon> I have some mueler silicone dmm test leads
23:45 <DHess_US> I don't know. That is why the maybe.
23:50 <Lemon> ho ok
24:23 <Lemon> alright thats it im getting the lcr meter
25:52 <DHess_US> Pft, go old school. Get an impedance bridge, https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cvcAAOSwExtc0b1a/s-l1600.jpg
26:14 <Lemon> haha actually I look for one of those
26:17 <Lemon> but they are expensive and rare
27:15 <DHess_US> I don't know why anybody would buy one to use except me. I got two of those for less than $40 each about 30 years ago at a ham radio swap meet.
27:26 <DHess_US> And they were old *then*.
27:34 <Lemon> its a cool device :>
28:18 <DHess_US> It is interesting to *see* dielectric absorption.
28:34 <Lemon> I was on the verge to buy a keithley 610B
28:40 <Lemon> but sadly it had a few problems
28:45 <Lemon> and the seller was a bit wonky
31:26 <Lemon> alright I bought it, 58 euros total
31:34 <Lemon> thats pretty decent, its a nice tool according to many people
34:55 <Lemon> 61,50 with taxes in fact
34:56 <Lemon> grrr
38:50 <Lemon> a nice analog wattmeter that goes high would be a nice addition to my lab too
43:46 <rust_collector> meh, find something to use your things for
46:32 <Lemon> ho thats planned Im waiting for components !
47:03 <Lemon> I still need to order the precision components but I want to be sure
18:39 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/image_son/1679164468.htm/ I dont know why, but this piece of gear interest me
18:51 <Lemon> it seems to measure high wattage
19:04 <Lemon> theres a 30amps input and it goes up to 600v, so 18kw I guess
19:10 <Lemon> theres a 20kw inscription
19:44 <rust_collector> probably not 18kw
20:04 <Lemon> https://img6.leboncoin.fr/ad-large/068790e638433467939a6ab54dd1a7f6fd454439.jpg
20:09 <Lemon> try to zoom a lot on inscriptions
20:11 <Lemon> theres a table
20:21 <Lemon> if you can help me understand it I'd appreciate it :>
21:41 <rust_collector> I have no idea. you are probably right
23:44 <Lemon> ok I found it on a forum
23:52 <Lemon> it can indeed measure up to 20kw !
23:57 <Lemon> its a watt-volt-ampmeter
24:06 <rust_collector> yea
24:14 <rust_collector> well, that is neat
24:16 <Lemon> thats really neat
24:29 <Lemon> the dude says the voltmeter works
24:34 <Lemon> I guess everything should work
25:28 <Lemon> im sure those things are rock solid, and easy to fix
27:03 <rust_collector> not sure, but I guess all the other stuff would be fixable, if the meter itself works
29:05 <Lemon> yeah it works
29:18 <Lemon> I guess if the voltmeter works, everything works
30:27 <rust_collector> https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/how-microwave-mushrooms
30:31 <Lemon> it will never end right ?
30:38 <rust_collector> nope
30:40 <Lemon> that terrible TEA
30:55 <rust_collector> you better sign up while you have time
31:43 <Lemon> I joined the discord a while ago
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32:34 <rust_collector> heh, that looks like an OOPS!
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32:53 <Lemon> :o
53:27 <rust_collector> time for some lunch
53:46 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/williamadler78/status/1224535168167415811
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02:02 <rust_collector> so I think it is time for some more lunch
03:21 <Ysjoelfir> I'm home!
03:24 <Ysjoelfir> yay!
03:29 <Ysjoelfir> So, rusty, when do we visit orange?
06:44 <rust_collector> uhm. not sure? I do not know much about what will happen in the next few months. But I think it would be nice to go maybe late spring, or early summer?
07:43 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a plan
10:49 <rust_collector> anyone want a job? https://arbeidsplassen.nav.no/stillinger/stilling/270cb733-cc74-46d5-809b-d2aea2942950
17:21 <Ysjoelfir> that doesn't sound to bad, as far as I can read it
17:39 <steve30> o/
18:00 <rust_collector> mom used to work for them. i did too, but that was just in the summer, painting some offices, lol
18:35 <rust_collector> oh, and sorting nuts/bolts/washers that had been dropped
21:03 <rust_collector> must work in a team. that is the opposite of what it used to be there. There were people there that I was told to not even look at.
21:36 <rust_collector> I have never seen so many people with mental issues in one place before, or after
23:16 <Ysjoelfir> Hi steve30. you join in visiting Pommegrenade?
23:30 <Ysjoelfir> lol, that doesn't sound to great rusty
24:23 <rust_collector> they were brilliant, at their thing. they just did not do human
26:25 * Ampera serves everyone a bowl of split net soup
26:48 <rust_collector> oh, it was you!
26:57 * Ampera smacks rust_collector with some rust
27:13 <rust_collector> it will just soak in. thanks
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27:56 <Ysjoelfir> split net soup? how does that taste?
30:12 <MrMobodies> Hello
30:26 <rust_collector> HELLOOO!!!!!
30:27 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, like split pea soup, but with packets instead of peas.
30:27 <MrMobodies> my cold is coming back and I think I need soup too
30:41 * Ampera gives MrMobodies a steaming hot bowl of clam it chowder.
30:42 <MrMobodies> I like it all green
30:59 <MrMobodies> clam it chowder.... sounds funny
31:15 <rust_collector> green chilli stew
31:35 <MrMobodies> would that be red colour
31:46 <MrMobodies> oh stew sorry
32:21 <MrMobodies> well I like the green soup with those peas, and the cabbage all ground up into liquid
32:36 <MrMobodies> it clears my nose and throat
35:10 <rust_collector> Doctoral Research Fellow in Effective Utilization of Immersive Technologies for experiential learning in teacher education
35:16 <rust_collector> yes, that has to be me
36:11 <rust_collector> I hope I get a sign with my title and name, to pin on my suit
36:45 <MrMobodies> experiment on people learning stuff using immersive equipment effectively?
37:24 <MrMobodies> so you teach them things and they leave good sign for good feedback on your suit
38:27 <MrMobodies> teach me things... I'll sing.
38:33 <MrMobodies> oops *sign
38:58 <rust_collector> I crank up the voltage on their punishment shocks, if their feedback is less then very positive
40:25 <rust_collector> there are lots of jobs. I do not know what most of the job descriptions mean
40:25 <MrMobodies> you sort of "rap" them
41:38 <MrMobodies> if something is less than very positive... negative.
43:12 <rust_collector> ooh, there is a job just down the road. in a bike shop. it is called.... bike shop
45:39 <MrMobodies> there was a rubbish job, for picking up rubbish.
46:21 <rust_collector> A driven and self motivated professional with the ability to solve complex requirements with quality
46:36 <rust_collector> ok, that means I would be doing....???
47:05 <MrMobodies> cleaning up litter
47:14 <MrMobodies> they refer to it as rubbish
47:34 <MrMobodies> picking up rubbish and I hear them also refer to it as a rubbish job
47:39 <rust_collector> yes, I know. I mean the thing I posted...wth does that mean?
47:56 <MrMobodies> oh
48:10 <MrMobodies> https://arbeidsplassen.nav.no/stillinger/stilling/270cb733-cc74-46d5-809b-d2aea2942950
48:12 <MrMobodies> that one
48:32 <rust_collector> no, I have an idea abou tthat one
48:43 <rust_collector> A driven and self motivated professional with the ability to solve complex requirements with quality
48:45 <MrMobodies> Radio Frequency engineer
49:00 <rust_collector> yes, but not that
49:14 <MrMobodies> gotta also have a car and drive to it
49:37 <MrMobodies> but quality
49:44 <rust_collector> I mean : A driven and self motivated professional with the ability to solve complex requirements with quality.... what kind of job descriotion is that?
50:04 <rust_collector> a quality car, for getting to work?
50:05 <rust_collector> ok
50:21 <coppice_> "For over 200 years KONGSBERG has made solutions that enable people around the world to deliver extreme violence under extreme prejudice."
50:32 <rust_collector> yup
51:04 <MrMobodies> I see that is in Norway
52:02 <rust_collector> I remember one us military figure on the tv, I think it was in the first gulf war. he was very very excited about the norwegian ammo they were trying, because if you shot someone with it, you could throw a basketball thru the hole, lol
53:18 <MrMobodies> large bullet holes
53:39 <coppice_> We offer: Mentor program ----- but I use Cadence
54:47 <rust_collector> oh, there we go... sheet metal welder... perfect! I am not, but at least I know I do not have to apply for that job
54:48 <MrMobodies> through their audio system
55:42 <MrMobodies> you looking for work?
56:04 <rust_collector> yeah, I have been, for the last 12 years
56:56 <coppice_> who would employ a sheet welder?
56:57 <MrMobodies> that's a long time
58:26 <rust_collector> yeah, it is 3 years less than the time I have had my job
59:17 <MrMobodies> what about sheet metal work for custom cars?
59:31 <MrMobodies> where they use led
59:54 <MrMobodies> I mean classic car rebuilds
00:14 <rust_collector> lead. yeah, sure. I do not think I can just slide into that job, but I could learn
00:15 <coppice_> is your dog walker RoHS compliant?
01:27 <rust_collector> yep, but it is from china, so maybe no?
02:21 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0NG_W8Fmj8
04:07 <rust_collector> If I found a job, close enough that I could walk, or ride a bike... I would probably take it
04:52 <MrMobodies> he speaks very fast in that tune
05:50 <MrMobodies> That would be nice to find work than stay in one place all the time which I had done in my old area
06:23 <MrMobodies> I have that headache coming on slowly
06:40 <MrMobodies> but I hot water and lemons
06:56 <MrMobodies> tastes very bitter though
09:26 <coppice_> that's why most people use honey and lemon
10:57 <MrMobodies> Aaah I missing honey
20:05 <rust_collector> maybe try a tiny pinch of salt in the lemon-water?
22:37 <rust_collector> but I think it is that time again,
23:30 <rust_collector> i will stop annoying all of you, and leave you to do your things, until tomorrow evening
23:38 <rust_collector> good night etc.
24:14 <MrMobodies> You're not annoying me
25:03 <MrMobodies> My headache is annoying me but good night.
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55:27 <MrMobodies> Need some advice
55:38 <MrMobodies> Ordered an Corsair MX500 1TB drive
55:48 <MrMobodies> I noticed a few marks here and there
56:13 <MrMobodies> data recovery shows lots of SWF files, which I read are on encrypted drives.
56:47 <MrMobodies> Do you think I should complain and send the thing back or notify them and, low level format and give it a chance?
56:57 <MrMobodies> Power on hours is 1
59:14 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/4t8pQxm.jpg
00:59 <MrMobodies> or do you think it is just stuff when they test the drives and I am being paranoid?
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40:21 <DHess_US> I thought SWF was the Flash video format or something.
40:36 <DHess_US> MrMobodies, who did your order from? Could the drive be a fake?
41:35 <DHess_US> MrMobodies, go grab the Corsair utility for their SSDs and see what it says.
41:54 <DHess_US> It should be able to tell if it is a genuine Corsair SSD.
43:25 <DHess_US> It is called Storage Executive, StorageExecutive-3.60.082018.04-windows-64bit-Setup.exe
43:33 <DHess_US> It is on the Corsair site.
48:15 <Ampera> DHess_US, iirc it's FLV for flash video, SWF is a flash application/applet
54:19 <DHess_US> Ok, well, there you go.
54:34 <DHess_US> That's pretty suspicious for a "new" SSD.
07:26 <MrMobodies> back
07:31 <MrMobodies> I ordered from Scan.co.uk
07:39 <MrMobodies> I am going to call them tomorrow
07:42 <MrMobodies> and emai
07:54 <MrMobodies> ohhh thanks StorageExecutive-3.60.082018.04-windows-64bit-Setup.exe
09:50 <DHess_US> MrMobodies, they probably have a newer one but get it and use it to verify that you got an actual Corsair drive.
13:36 <MrMobodies> Also what I am to do before I use that tool
13:46 <MrMobodies> if it is encrypted and possible uses EFI
13:51 <MrMobodies> it will probably try to boot up
13:58 <MrMobodies> and hang
14:23 <MrMobodies> I will take a blank ssd and put in there and compare to see what happens and I'll tape pictures
16:18 <DHess_US> Huh? Just don't boot the drive. What's the problem?
16:34 <DHess_US> Even hotplug the drive after you boot your system.
16:48 <MrMobodies> what is suppose to happen, if no EFI partition, it should retry the boot list
17:11 <MrMobodies> if it has one, hidden then that means there is data on the drive and it once used to back up the findings
18:25 <MrMobodies> so I am low level formatting a cheap ssd now. put it in, no efi and it should retry the boot order. This Corsair I have a feeling it will and try boot up and do nothing
18:45 <MrMobodies> so when I email them it will have the proof
19:03 <MrMobodies> also I the findings on that tool I'll look at too
19:29 <MrMobodies> if it passes as a genuine it is either a returned/recycled one or a really good fake.
33:09 <DHess_US> I've received suspicious Crucial SSDs before but they checked out.
46:02 <MrMobodies> Firmware revision M3CR023 "Latest Firmware Installed"
46:33 <MrMobodies> smart looks okay but then
46:42 <MrMobodies> I think they may recycle them
47:32 <MrMobodies> Take off the working chips put them on other boards or it was returned
53:31 <DHess_US> Possibly but apparently it is a real Crucial drive.
54:30 <MrMobodies> HWINFO32 [CA] Percentage Of The Rated Lifteim Used: 100/1, worst 100 so that is 1% already.
54:47 <MrMobodies> Do you think I should give it a chance?
56:30 <MrMobodies> Maybe what I could do, email them tomorrow, phone htem up and make a case reference so if there is a problem in the future I could raise it with them
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50:05 <DHess_US> MrMobodies, who did you get it from?
20:48 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362889159783
21:07 <MrMobodies> I didn't want to use Scan.co.uk so they were listing it on Ebay
21:43 <MrMobodies> it is terrible to order from
22:56 <MrMobodies> and what is so stupid of me I could have got it direct:
22:58 <MrMobodies> https://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/ssd/series/MX500
23:09 <MrMobodies> The other seem more priced and I didn't look properly
24:39 <MrMobodies> also it is a little cheaper
24:44 <MrMobodies> by about £8
25:17 <MrMobodies> I am going to bed now.
25:21 <MrMobodies> goodnight
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59:27 <hsn> hoi
11:13 <ThunderSqueak> hi
11:14 <ThunderSqueak> https://i.imgur.com/23IXnMO.jpg
11:16 <ThunderSqueak> err
11:21 <ThunderSqueak> wtf wrong link
11:24 <ThunderSqueak> hmm
11:41 <ThunderSqueak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=262kfAoZmog
11:42 <ThunderSqueak> :D
31:36 <hsn> what is second child ? ? :) https://snipboard.io/EyegFh.jpg -----> https://snipboard.io/vkYrFT.jpg
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11:13 <Halcyon> Evening everyone
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32:20 <Halcyon> I kind of feel like a cheeseburger right now
32:29 <Halcyon> With mustard and katsup
33:18 <Halcyon> *catsup
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36:02 <hsn> made me hungry @halcyon
36:18 <Ysjoelfir> hi all
37:19 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
37:23 <Halcyon> What's doing?
37:50 <Ysjoelfir> work work work^^
37:58 <Halcyon> Sounds like me
38:15 <Halcyon> I'm working 5 days this week, not used to it
38:16 <Halcyon> :P
38:22 <Ysjoelfir> But aren't you home, sipping on a glass of wine,...? :D
38:36 <Halcyon> .... You don't know me :P
39:06 <Halcyon> But yes
39:14 <Halcyon> Although I've been up since 0515
43:04 <Ysjoelfir> eevblog time
43:04 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 19:43 Sydney time.
43:29 <Ysjoelfir> not too long right now :D but if you go to bed at 10 or later.. ok, thats early.
43:54 <Ysjoelfir> do you have to work that early?
47:33 <Halcyon> This week I do, I start at 0700
47:40 <Halcyon> Normally I start an hour later
47:40 <hsn> Hi there Ysjeolfir
48:01 <Halcyon> I drive about 60-85 minutes to get to work
48:22 <Halcyon> (or 80 kilometres each way)
48:24 <Ysjoelfir> wow. thats a long drive oO
48:28 <Ysjoelfir> Hi hsn
48:42 <Halcyon> Eh, that's Sydney for you. It's a big place. I live on the outskirts of Sydney
48:54 <Halcyon> It's technically not considered part of "Greater Sydney"
49:12 <Ysjoelfir> sydney is so damn huge....
49:16 <Halcyon> Yeh it is
50:05 <Ysjoelfir> If we get that house that would be roughly my way to work: https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Friedberg+(Hessen),+61169/Stierstadt,+61440+Oberursel+(Taunus)/
50:21 <Halcyon> Sydney City itself isn't all that big, but the Greater Sydney Area is about 70 KM East to West and 75 KM north to south.
50:39 <Ysjoelfir> and now its that: www.google.de/maps/dir/Frankfurt-Rödelheim,+Frankfurt+am+Main/Stierstadt,+61440+Oberursel+(Taunus)/
50:49 <Ysjoelfir> that is rather big
50:50 <Halcyon> I hate you
50:55 <Ysjoelfir> :P
50:59 <Halcyon> I would LOVE to drive 20 minutes to work
51:27 <Ysjoelfir> I am sure you would ^^
51:33 <Ysjoelfir> I enjoy it pretty much.
51:41 <Halcyon> Plus on top of that, I travel interstate quite a bit. I clock up between 30 and 40 thousand kilometres in my car every year.
51:51 <Halcyon> My car actually looks almost new, apart from the odometer
52:29 <Ysjoelfir> my car looks old and nearly dead. the outside AND the odometer (460.000km) but it is 22 years old, so....
52:43 <Halcyon> Mine's a few years old :P
52:48 <Halcyon> I'm about to hit 100,000
52:59 <Halcyon> Which reminds me, I need to book in for a service
53:21 <Ysjoelfir> I do nearly everything myself, if it doesn't involve climbing under the thing
53:32 <Ysjoelfir> which won't work, since my belly is too big :S
53:34 <Halcyon> I don't have the time, so I just pay Volvo to do it
53:43 <Halcyon> They give me a loan car anyway
54:48 <Ysjoelfir> If I would go to Volvo and say "Hey, can you fix my 22 years old Volvo 940 Classic" they would look at me like "it doesn't have an OBD connector, so... no. how shall we know what's wrong?"
54:50 <Halcyon> Just about every waking hour of each day is filled with something. The few hours after work during the week is about the only time I get to sit in front of the computer and relax, but even then I'm usually doing some other kind of work or preparing something for university
55:12 <Halcyon> Haha such a good car
55:15 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds rather bad
55:16 <Halcyon> I've owned 3 of them now
55:17 <Ysjoelfir> yes, it is
55:46 <Halcyon> When I was growing up, my parents had a 240 GL
55:54 <Ysjoelfir> It's my first, but I wanted one ever since I got my drivers license
55:57 <Halcyon> I still see a few driving around
57:12 <Ysjoelfir> this one was an "accidental find" from the girlfriend. she was like "oh, look, there is a 940 for sale" - thinking that I wouldn't buy it as it looked rather bad and was advertised as "doesn't start sometimes and shuts off all of the sudden"
57:18 <Ysjoelfir> 2 days later we had a car.
57:26 <Halcyon> Hahah
57:32 <Halcyon> Nice
57:48 <Ysjoelfir> she thinks it's to big^^
58:08 <Ysjoelfir> well, ok, she is only 1.53m, so... from her perspective it must be gigantic
58:38 <Halcyon> Hah
03:40 <Halcyon> Lovely, the bird just sneezed in my face
03:47 <Ysjoelfir> lol? Oo
03:53 <Ysjoelfir> I never knew that birds can sneeze :D
03:57 <Halcyon> Oh yes
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41:35 <coppice_> A 940 is pretty big
43:20 <coppice_> I never understood why Volvo had the 850 and the 940. They had little in common mechanical, so there was the enormous cost of 2 platforms, and they had 2 similar looking cars of similar size
43:35 <Halcyon> *shrug*
46:15 <coppice_> I had a 740, and I've driven an 850, and they felt very similar, despite one being rear wheel drive and the other front wheel drive
47:24 <Halcyon> I've never actually driven an old Volvo
47:37 <Halcyon> I think the oldest one I owned was a 2009 model maybe?
47:46 <Halcyon> And that was basically a Ford Focus
48:05 <Halcyon> The most fun Volvo I drove was the C30 Polestar
48:11 <Halcyon> That thing is a pocket rocket
48:25 <coppice_> the feeling of car sizes is kinda odd. we have a Honda Jazz and a Volvo V90. They feel like they are of a totally different size, but the Volvo is only 25% longer (5m vs 4m)
48:42 <Halcyon> Oooh the V90 is a nice car
48:57 <Halcyon> I think the V-series is now more like a sedan/coupe than a wagon right?
50:07 <Halcyon> Well it's a sedan because of the 4 doors, but it's wagon-like
50:31 <coppice_> its definitely a wagon, although they haven't gone for maximum storage. The old ones had a very square back end, but this one is sloped off. It loses so much space with that slope that on the new V60 they've made the back a lot squarer than the V90
50:51 <Halcyon> Nevertheless, they are a lovely car to drive
51:12 <Halcyon> I am amazed what Volvo do with their 2L, 4 cyl. engines
51:35 <Halcyon> Mine has the same engine, albeit with the Polestar tune
51:51 <coppice_> There are lots of turbocharged 2 litre engines getting plenty of torque and power these days
52:39 <Halcyon> Yeh there are, but I've driven Volkswagens with a similar config and they don't seem as nice
52:56 <Halcyon> They just lack a certain something
53:06 <Halcyon> Then again, they are a Volkswagen, nothing special there
53:48 <coppice_> what puzzles me is Volvo putting 3 cylinder engines in a car as expensive as a XC40, although they are not the only people putting 3 cylinder engines in small luxury cars
54:21 <Halcyon> I drove a 0.9L Renault a few years ago
54:30 <Halcyon> I'm pretty sure that had 3 cyl. engine
54:36 <Halcyon> It was surprisingly responsive
55:02 <coppice_> BMW have small 3 cylinder engines in quite expensive cars
55:59 <Halcyon> I'll tell you though, if I were to buy a new car today, I would seriously consider a Kia
56:02 <hsn> i like 5 series more than (3 or 7) in BMW
56:04 <Halcyon> They are doing nice things
57:31 <coppice_> Kia and Hyundai need to do more about their global image. They aren't able to get the kind of sales their high end models deserve, purely through bias
57:57 <hsn> Hyundai is getting better image i think
58:11 <hsn> in this area i guess
58:35 <coppice_> hsn: the 3 is too small, and the 7 is large enough to be clumsy to drive, without adding much useful space. the 5 seems to be their sweet spot
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59:02 <hsn> coppice_ exactly
00:20 <coppice_> The V90 is a much nicely space to spend time in than the BMW 5, though. The BMW is a lot better for performance options, but for a relaxing comfy car I like our V90
00:42 <Lemon> hello peeps
01:28 <coppice_> One annoyance with all the newer sedans and wagons is they are reducing headroom. I think they are trying to differentiate them from the related SUV models, but its a pain for tall people
01:34 <Halcyon> I dunno, Kia does extremely well in Australia. Kia was the #5 most popular
02:08 <Halcyon> (last year)
02:29 <Halcyon> Toyota being #1 by far
02:35 <coppice_> Halcyon: how much of that is from sales of their bargain basement models, and how many of their luxury cars do they sell there?
03:01 <Halcyon> Well even their lower end models are nice. We have a base model Sorrento at work and it's lovely
03:24 <Halcyon> I'm talking about their current lineup, not previous models
03:33 <coppice_> yeah, but they aren't making much money unless they can increase sales of their luxury models
03:44 <Halcyon> Well the Stinger's have been popular
03:51 <Halcyon> Even moreso than the shitty Ford Mustang
04:02 <coppice_> really. The Stinger has bombed in most markets
04:14 <Halcyon> Oh yeh, it's a nice car
04:30 <Halcyon> The biggest problem with the Mustang is the Ford badge. They aren't known for quality.
04:53 <Halcyon> We trialled them as Highway patrol cars, their gearboxes failed after a few laps of our tracks
05:03 <Halcyon> They are just unreliable Ford deathtraps
05:31 <Halcyon> Instead they went with BMW and Kia
06:42 <coppice_> When you are choosing a BMW over something less reliable, the alternative has to be really bad :)
07:11 <Halcyon> To be fair, they went with the BMW 530d
07:15 <Halcyon> They are a nice car
08:12 <Lemon> id love an older 535d
08:23 <Lemon> or a 540i if Im going a bit mad
09:10 <Halcyon> Before that we mainly used Holden (GM) or Ford for Highway vehicles
09:27 <Halcyon> They were OK in terms of performance but fell apart
09:36 <Halcyon> After 50,000 KM, they were replaced
09:45 <coppice_> One thing about BMWs that might suit them for the police is that all the nice bits are an option, so its easy to buy the kind of no frills car the police want :)
10:18 <Halcyon> Oh absolutely. Police don't need heated leather seats or sunroofs
10:32 <Halcyon> They need performance, stopping power and handling
10:55 <Lemon> and cup holders
11:01 <Lemon> dont forget them cup holders
11:06 <Halcyon> and cup holders, yes
11:10 <Halcyon> Need somewhere to put coffee
11:10 <coppice_> who can live without heated, cooled and massaging seats these days?
11:26 <coppice_> and a donut holder
11:36 <Halcyon> I spent several years on the road in uniform, I know what it's like :P
11:48 <Halcyon> Hah, actually, Police here don't eat doughnuts (much)
11:54 <Halcyon> I was never a fan
12:25 <Halcyon> But yes, coffee is a staple
12:34 <coppice_> the donut thing seems to be a specifically US meme
13:00 <Halcyon> Yeh it seems that way
13:59 <Lemon> yeah never saw a french policeman with a donut
14:11 <Lemon> once a friend asked them to take him back home
14:30 <Lemon> he asked them what they like to eat, and they said 'we like those chokobons (kinder)' haha
14:34 <Lemon> that was neat
14:39 <coppice_> 50k km seems like an extremely short life for a car. WTF do the police do with them?
14:43 <Lemon> he bought some to thank them
16:39 <Halcyon> coppice_: Flog the crap out of them?
16:56 <Halcyon> Even our General Duties vehicles get replaced after about 60,000
17:18 <coppice_> Halcyon: is every journey treated as a race?
17:23 <Halcyon> Nah
17:50 <Halcyon> But when you go lights and sirens, cars do get abused. Often over gutters or median strips and foot flat to the floor
18:04 <Halcyon> Brakes and rotors also cop it a lot
18:10 <Halcyon> (Pardon the pun)
18:23 <coppice_> and BMWs stand that physical abuse well?
18:28 <Halcyon> Yeh they seem to
18:42 <Halcyon> Generally, the brakes in our vehicles come upgraded from factory
18:59 <coppice_> I think of them as the most delicate of cars, but that might be because of the extreme cost of any repairs
19:52 <Halcyon> I wouldn't put BMW in the "delicate" category in terms of mechanics at all
20:22 <coppice_> a lot of the fragility in modern cars comes from the stupid large wheels
21:19 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBp_YQr3UUs
21:26 <Halcyon> Apparently our cars are in GTA now?
23:45 <K> hello
23:45 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
24:29 <Halcyon> Hey K
24:36 <Halcyon> How do you manage to get EEVblog every time?
25:07 <K> no idea
25:12 <Halcyon> He likes you
25:31 <K> eh...
27:50 <coppice_> hello
31:40 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm off to bed
31:42 <Halcyon> Goodnight guys
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08:26 <Lemon> hey I just got my multavi 5 !
08:32 <Ysjoelfir> nice :)
08:36 <Lemon> really perfect condition, working ultra nicely !
08:42 <Lemon> you didnt lie, it works really well
08:49 <Lemon> the micronta seems to need some warmup
08:57 <Lemon> this one ?pff works instantly
09:05 <Lemon> I paid 10 euros + 6 for shipping for it !
09:13 <Ysjoelfir> THAT is a bargain
09:53 <Lemon> isnt it ? I saw it I said ' I TAKE IT'
10:01 <Lemon> it was a girl for once
10:17 <Ysjoelfir> https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/574/takemymoney.jpg
10:50 <Lemon> exactly haha
10:56 <Lemon> I have another piece I really want to buy
11:08 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/image_son/1679164468.htm/
11:26 <Lemon> its a watt-volt-amp meter, the wattmeter goes up to 20kw !
11:34 <Lemon> the dude told me the voltmeter works fine
11:38 <Ysjoelfir> does the title realy just say "Device to measure"?
11:38 <Lemon> I guess everything works fine
11:43 <Lemon> yes lol
11:49 <Lemon> people dont know what they are selling
11:54 <Lemon> which is nice for us, most of the time
11:56 <Ysjoelfir> it seems like it^^
12:20 <Lemon> but I wanted some device to measure power
12:24 <Lemon> it seems to be perfect !
12:33 <Lemon> and I like its look honestly, I dont find much infos on the net about it
12:41 <Lemon> seems it was made in france, or maybe germany idk
12:47 <Ysjoelfir> looks pretty nice, yes :)
13:10 <Lemon> I'll try to take down the price a bit but the guy is a fairly slow dude, answering one question out of three
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15:41 <Lemon> hmmm
15:43 <Lemon> weird
16:00 <Ysjoelfir> it's kiwiircs fault, i'm sure
16:05 <Ysjoelfir> use a proper client :D
16:46 <Lemon> yeah you are right
16:53 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1746188653.htm/ I saw this too, but well I can't buy everything
18:57 <Lemon> also this, but im fairly sure it will be pretty expensive https://www.leboncoin.fr/equipements_industriels/1718761438.htm/
19:02 <Lemon> its sold for like 5k euros new
19:16 <Lemon> measures from 100 nano ohms to 30k
20:25 <Ysjoelfir> it talks french. can't be good. :D
20:46 <Lemon> haha :> well im pretty sure it is ! so the wattmeter is french, its the same brand :>
21:49 <K> baguette!
22:05 <Lemon> I need to teach you new words
22:10 <Lemon> baguette is too mainstream
22:17 <Lemon> say, 'huitres a la mayonnaise'
22:22 <K> omelette du fromage?!
22:30 <Lemon> too mainstreammmm !
22:38 <K> merde!
22:43 <Lemon> omelette AU fromage :>
22:53 <Ysjoelfir> what are hats with mayonnaise?
23:02 <Lemon> making an omelette out of cheese would be weird xd
23:04 <K> oysters
23:06 <K> yuck
23:08 <Lemon> oysters :>
23:12 <Ampera> What's the largest number someone can count on their 10 fingers.
23:24 <K> 2^10 ?
23:27 <Ysjoelfir> 2^10?
23:29 <Ampera> correct
23:29 <Lemon> 10 billions
23:37 <Lemon> no wait
23:39 <Lemon> yes ?
23:48 <K> prolly more if you do some wierd 10 bit floating point scheme
24:03 <Lemon> or if you redefine the basic algebra
24:49 <Lemon> ho btw on my dual ouput supply
24:58 <K> well, there are only that many states for 10 bits of information, interpretations could matter
25:03 <Ysjoelfir> oh for gods sake... I was wondering why it is so damn hot in here. some idiot (and I'm pretty sure I know who) switched the floor heater all the way up! I just measured 28°C in here
25:04 <Lemon> theres a piece of metal that goes from one positive pole to the negative pole of the other ouput
25:09 <Lemon> its meant for tracking
25:23 <Lemon> can I leave it there even if I dont use it ? just in independant mode ?
25:30 <K> hm, sound more like chaining both channels to me
25:32 <Lemon> damn 28
26:01 <Ysjoelfir> I would remove it. if the channels are connected... well, then they can't be independant, right?
26:02 <Lemon> so I did the right thing by removing it I guess
26:09 <Lemon> theres a switch to chose !
26:15 <Lemon> between tracking and independant
26:48 <Lemon> also i'd love to know how to fix the second channel, it ouputs 0.3v when set on 0
26:56 <Lemon> and it seems to me that its a physical problem
26:56 <Ysjoelfir> yes. but if the channels are connected, they arenÄt independant. you may be able to regulate both channels independently, but you basically have a +/- supply around that bridte :)
26:59 <Lemon> the knob seems blocked
27:16 <Lemon> ha ok I understand now, thanks !
35:38 <Ysjoelfir> you're welcome :) And I'm going for my lunch break.
36:30 <coppice_> Ysjoelfir: people struggle greatly with the concept of "thermostat"
37:48 * hsn squeeezes a lemon
42:01 <Ampera> What I do when I want to count more on my fingers, is count sixes on my right hand, and to five, then switch on my left.
45:20 <hsn> my college has 6 figers :D
45:23 <hsn> on each hand
45:33 <hsn> one is very small
45:37 <coppice_> when you run out of fingers at 1023, just use other extremities
47:26 <Ampera> at that point just get out some damn paper
48:31 <Ampera> ESC 2020 is coming around in a few months
00:55 <Ysjoelfir> Why is that, coppice_? (thermostats)
05:37 <coppice_> Ysjoelfir: I don't know, but its a weird piece of psychology that interests me. Even many highly educated people can be found turning a thermostat control up to maximum, like this will make things heat up faster.
05:48 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, it shouldn't be that hard?
05:50 <Ysjoelfir> yes, exactly
05:54 <Ysjoelfir> my gf is the same
06:16 <Ampera> I WANT MY FURNACE TO BE MORE ON THAN ON
06:34 <Ysjoelfir> "oh, it's cold! Can you turn up the heater?" - "i just put it from 0 to 2" - "then just put it to 5, I'm freezing!" - "that won't help you...."
07:02 <K> OMG IT IS SO COLD!
07:20 <Ysjoelfir> it actually is rather cold today, yes...
07:26 <coppice_> "we need a thermostat you can turn up to 11"
07:32 <Ampera> It's a nice and toasty 27F outside right now
07:32 <K> it is around 0C here
07:38 <Ysjoelfir> -3 here
07:45 <Ysjoelfir> C
07:49 <K> but is sun
07:52 <Ampera> indeed, 27F is about -3C
08:06 <K> but is it sun, Ampera?
08:12 <Ampera> nope, it's snow
08:25 <Ysjoelfir> mind to send some of that over?
08:34 <Ysjoelfir> here its just cold. nothing more
09:00 <Ampera> fucking take it you maniacal kraut
09:19 <Ysjoelfir> thanks <3
09:32 <Ampera> I don't mind the snow, but I'm trying to come to terms with the fact that someone, probably me, is going to have to go out there and shovel that shit.
10:04 <Ysjoelfir> Doesn#t sound to bad?
10:09 <K> shoveling is good for your soul
10:21 <K> i think i've read it somewhere?
10:37 <Ampera> you two are either more masochistic than I am, or have never lived in a snowy area
11:33 <K> well, i didn't say it is good for my soul
12:01 <K> but tbh i've never actually showeled snow
12:35 <Ampera> that much is obvious
12:44 <Ampera> you know how heavy water is? Ice even?
12:48 <Ampera> imagine shoveling that.
12:51 <Ampera> with a very large shovel
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30:06 <Ysjoelfir> I would just grab my volvo, weld a big shovel in front of it and off we go :D
33:29 <coppice_> Ysjoelfir: you don't by some chance have one of those huge volvo earth movers, do you?
34:04 <Ysjoelfir> no, just the 940. but that would be cool :D
34:26 <coppice_> was there a snow plough option for the 940?
34:58 <Ysjoelfir> I'm pretty sure the swedes used it for every way a man can think off. but I doubt that this was officiall
35:30 <coppice_> the 740 had those large soft black plastic bumpers with an aluminium grider behind them, so the plough was kind of a standard feature
35:50 <Ysjoelfir> The 940 is mostly identical to the 740, so yes.
36:06 <coppice_> I thought they changed the bumpers on the 940
36:28 <Ysjoelfir> only the decor strips, the basic construction is the same. also, those aluminium bars are dampened by shock absorbers.
36:36 <Ysjoelfir> which would be pretty handy in france I assume
37:21 <coppice_> in the 80s they tried to make cars absorb minor impacts without harm. Now almost every car gets damaged by even the tiniest contact
37:35 <Ysjoelfir> jep...
37:57 <coppice_> I used to push stuff out of the way with the black bumpers on my 740.
38:12 <Ysjoelfir> and since the plastic on the 940 bumpers is so soft you SEE that most people today, at least in the street where I live, don't know how to park...
39:28 <Ysjoelfir> I do that, too. the pushing thing. like trash bins that the.... trash collector people worker things..... just throw onto the parkind spaces. Or when the parking space is veeeeery short, I just carefully back up until it bumps into the wall.
40:04 <coppice_> I like my V90, but if they made a modernised 740 I'd take that instead
40:53 <Ysjoelfir> If they would ever make a car that looks like the 2/7/900 series, is as comfortable as they are, can be repaired by myself and are rear driven, I would even consider buying one new.
42:08 <Ysjoelfir> but I doubt that my 940 will die soon. It's just been runned in (do you say that like this?) with 460.000km
43:01 <coppice_> does it have the original gearbox?
43:40 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but it got repaired once. No idea how they managed to do that though, since the Ford M90 gearbox isn't meant to be repaired at all
44:00 <Ysjoelfir> on the bill they wrote that they had to custom manufacture some gears and shafts
44:30 <coppice_> It has a Ford gearbox? They used Aisin in the 80s, and they use Aisin now. I didn't realise they changed in the middle
45:02 <Ysjoelfir> afaik the M90 was made by ford. it was also given to a ford repair center from the previous owner, as he had it repaired
45:12 <Ysjoelfir> all other gearboxes weren't, though
45:33 <coppice_> oh, is that a manual or auto?
45:47 <Ysjoelfir> manual
45:58 <coppice_> ah, I've never used a manual volvo
46:26 <Ysjoelfir> oh, i just read: it's actually a german design
46:49 <Ysjoelfir> "The gearbox is made by Getrag in Germany and it is of a 3-axle design, deriving from the Volvo M56 gearbox of the front wheel driven 850 series." then don't ask me where I got that ford thing from.
48:03 <coppice_> I thought volvo made their own manuals in the 740 era, but I'm not sure. In the UK they never seemed to sell many manual cars
49:10 <Ysjoelfir> I have no clue :D
49:37 <Ysjoelfir> I always got the impression, that many people prefered the automatic volvos, so...
51:40 <coppice_> In the UK most small cars are manual and most big cars are automatic. That's has been true since the 70s, gradually becoming a stronger divide.
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