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00:28:14 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://imgur.com/gallery/x87f3vJ
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01:07:47 <rust_collector> oops, new day...
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01:26:13 <Lemon> Please tell me I wasnt speaking alone again
01:26:28 <rust_collector> i dunno? did you say anything?
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01:27:05 <Lemon> god dammit
01:27:11 <Lemon> I was talking about the micronta :>
01:27:37 <rust_collector> oh, right, we have a filter on all the radio shack chatting
01:27:44 <Lemon> im very pleased with its cosmetic, its basically like new, even the box is in good shape, with original papers etc
01:27:50 <Lemon> haha nice !
01:27:57 <Lemon> so basically what I did
01:28:00 <rust_collector> well, that is nice
01:28:16 <Lemon> I changed a cable inside, a ground cable for both batteries as it was corroded
01:28:21 <Lemon> now its alright
01:28:37 <Lemon> but idk why when I plug the 1.5v battery, it drops from 1,6 to 1
01:28:48 <Lemon> and low ohm measurements doesnt work
01:28:58 <Lemon> high ohms that uses the 9v batt works fine
01:29:07 <Lemon> dc works fine too, I might need to cal it a bit
01:33:44 <Lemon> also the 960 function generator works fine, but damn it heats like hell
01:33:56 <Lemon> square waves are pretty bad tho
01:35:04 <rust_collector> hmm, I wonder how it makes the different waves
01:37:40 <rust_collector> did you take it apart yet?
01:38:11 <Lemon> not the generator
01:38:18 <Lemon> I just realized it misses a knob
01:38:58 <Lemon> the motherfucker
01:39:05 <Lemon> out of the three he sent me the one with the broken knob
01:39:56 <rust_collector> just 3d print a knob with rgb leds and bluetooth
01:42:41 <rust_collector> well, I think you should take the lid off it
01:42:58 <rust_collector> just to see if it has the schematics in there
01:43:18 <Lemon> well I dont really need it, what bothers me is that broken knob
01:43:55 <rust_collector> meh, it would be fun to see if I could figure out how it works
01:44:18 <Lemon> ha sure, well I will see then
01:45:52 <rust_collector> knobs can be important
01:46:19 <Lemon> its really not correct, out of the three he had, he sent me the broken one
01:46:24 <Lemon> I didnt notice it at first on the picture
01:46:50 <rust_collector> who made that thing?
01:47:00 <Lemon> centrad, a french compagny it seems
01:47:03 <Lemon> its a model 960
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01:48:21 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/COrHDWQ.png
01:50:03 <Lemon> yeah no much infos on the net
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01:50:45 <rust_collector> https://www.ebay.com/itm/B-K-960r-radio-analyst-signal-generator-volt-meter-transistor-tester-/283695404881
02:13:07 <Lemon> well sure thing is, im not keeping it
02:13:15 <Lemon> first it heats like shit, and theres a broken knob
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02:24:04 <rust_collector> creperie?
02:24:12 <rust_collector> nice word
02:24:51 <Lemon> the dude is selling another model
02:25:05 <Lemon> I don't know if you remember, one with more options, but without the counter
02:25:20 <Lemon> I told him 'I send you back this one, I pay for shipping, and you send me the model you were selling for 30'
02:25:29 <Lemon> that way, well its ok he wanted to refund me 10 euros
02:25:35 <Lemon> but I dont want to keep something with a broken knob
02:25:44 <Lemon> I might be a perfectionnist but I hate that
02:25:56 <Lemon> I openned it, and its passively cooled, the transformer heats like shit
02:26:04 <Lemon> the potentiometer will be almost impossible to replace
02:26:13 <Lemon> even if I manage to replace it the knob will be different, gahhh
02:26:51 <rust_collector> well, I guess you have to figure out if you want tools, or a collection of prehistoric thingies
02:27:56 <Lemon> tools, so if a feature is missing, its an almost working tool or non working
02:28:25 <rust_collector> but. transformers do not usually run very hot, do they?
02:29:03 <rust_collector> so, I think something draws a lot of current, maybe?
02:29:09 <Lemon> yeah probably
02:29:11 <Lemon> ho dude
02:29:17 <rust_collector> hmm, weird
02:29:23 <Lemon> he told me 'keep it, just pay for the shipping and I send you the other one'
02:29:29 <Lemon> thats kind, I admire that
02:29:59 <Lemon> he told me he got a shitton to sell, so he dont mind if I keep it
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02:30:16 <rust_collector> finally! I have been trying to give away these old things for 15 years
02:30:51 <rust_collector> and now this nutcase gets 2
02:30:53 <rust_collector> YAAY!
02:34:33 <K> hehe
03:26:49 <rust_collector> oh. an oled screen, on a ... cpu cooler block. I think I prefer all black wires in there
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03:58:39 <Lemon> pfff the guy with the prema 6k just told me 'its sold'... I literally told him yesterday night, 1 hour after he answered me 'yes I take paypal' that I buy it
04:05:22 <rust_collector> hmm, did you have some kind of adjustable load?
04:05:56 <Lemon> im really pissed
04:06:16 <Lemon> I hate it so much when people do that
04:06:30 <Lemon> when you talk with a potential buyer, you dont turn around to sell it to another guy
04:06:34 <Lemon> thats just not correct
04:09:34 <K> but did you tell him you are taking it or just asked about paypal?
04:10:17 <Lemon> I told him im taking it, please give me your paypal
04:10:29 <Lemon> literally one hour or less after he told me he accepted paypal
04:10:37 <Lemon> and he answered me this afternoon 'its sold'
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04:10:46 <Lemon> thats the second time someone do that
04:10:50 <Lemon> in a few days
04:14:50 <K> that is not nice
04:15:58 <Lemon> yeah fuck this guy seriously
04:16:09 <Lemon> and on the other hand you have the dude with the waveform generator
04:16:19 <Lemon> the one he sent me got a broken knob
04:16:38 <Lemon> so he told me 'keep this one, if you are okay just pay for shipping and I send you the other one (that was a bit more expensive)
04:19:38 <Lemon> that was kind
04:24:38 <Ampera> afternoon
04:24:52 <Ampera> work's going well, I think I've filed maybe 12-14 bug reports so far.
04:25:41 <rust_collector> and no one ranting about filing his features as bugs?
04:26:20 <Ampera> not yet
04:27:06 <rust_collector> well, that is nice.
04:27:18 <rust_collector> do you like the people you work for/with?
04:27:41 <Ampera> They're pretty good, I've only been here since yesterday, so I haven't had the time to interact with people yet really.
04:27:59 <Ampera> I'm trying to find a hot beverage that I like that isn't coffee
04:28:05 <Ampera> since coffee makes me nauseous
04:28:34 <Ampera> I tried making improvised bovril, but my attempt was awful.
04:28:58 <Ampera> My work gives out black tea for free, which smells and tastes like timmothy hay and dusty, old macaroni
04:29:07 <Ampera> first thing I've ever drunk that's tasted /dry/
04:29:11 <Ampera> er, dustry.
04:29:13 <rust_collector> one of my old helpers had a thing for HOT jägermeister...
04:29:22 <Ampera> that's uh
04:29:25 <Ampera> not an option
04:29:41 <rust_collector> Imo, that is a good thing
04:29:54 <rust_collector> because i have problems drinking it cold
04:35:43 <Lemon> ok I fixed the micronta
04:35:51 <Lemon> thats good
04:36:16 <rust_collector> ok, ship it up here, so I can test it for you
04:36:31 <Lemon> no you ship yourself here and test it !
04:37:06 <rust_collector> hmm, ok, maybe in summer, when it cools down a bit
04:41:27 <Lemon> you know im serious that could be fun
04:43:56 <rust_collector> I am no fun. but yeah, maybe we could
04:45:16 <rust_collector> I am ready for ham and butter baguettes
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04:53:45 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir is angry, because I mentioned baguettes
04:54:02 <Lemon> ha shoot bad news
04:54:12 <Lemon> the cat we found to be really skinny those last days
04:54:16 <Lemon> she got a cancer :/
04:54:56 <rust_collector> lumpy cat. that is not good
04:55:38 <Lemon> she got between a few days to 6 months, according to the vet
04:55:53 <rust_collector> yeah, you never know
04:56:12 <rust_collector> but, even with healthy cats, you do not know
04:56:26 <Lemon> we will just give her painkillers and keep her at home
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05:02:52 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir_mobile,
05:03:01 <rust_collector> ??
05:03:17 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Yes?
05:03:32 <rust_collector> are you doing anything in... uhm, say late may?
05:03:55 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Why did it join by itself? O.o I didn't even start the app..
05:04:06 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Late May.. hmm
05:04:13 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Possibly moving
05:04:23 <rust_collector> mmmhf. ok
05:04:25 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> But besides that, not really, no
05:05:33 <rust_collector> do you feel like going to oranges house, to play with his radio hut voltmeter, and hunt for baguettes?
05:06:04 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Sure, why not?
05:06:09 <rust_collector> I think baguettes live in his country
05:06:36 <rust_collector> ok, so I guess we have to see if we can do that then
05:07:02 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Sounds great, I'm in :)
05:07:31 <rust_collector> It would be nice to try some free range baguettes, and not just the inbred broiler baguettes we get up here
05:08:48 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Yes, indeed. Also I heard that croissants or however you write that are common down there
05:09:15 <rust_collector> I guess I should have asked orange if he hates you or not, before I invited you to his home
05:11:42 <rust_collector> but, as he does not object, I guess we will just show up on his door some time... probably late at night
05:14:57 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Sarah, orange loves me. And if not.. He will after our visit :)
05:15:37 <Lemon> we have some neat baguettes I must admit it
05:15:42 <Lemon> with all kind of things
05:15:50 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Sarah? I meant to write "aaah..."
05:16:00 <rust_collector> I want at least one with just butter and ham
05:19:56 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> The girlfriend wants to join. Orange, I hope you have a big house.
05:20:46 <Lemon> hmm an acceptable 50 sqm ? :>
05:20:50 <rust_collector> and maybe we will bring the kids, so
05:21:33 <rust_collector> heh, I don't think I will take the kids on a road trip again
05:22:05 <rust_collector> 50m³ is not bad, for a kitchen
05:23:39 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> How big are the other rooms?
05:27:08 * Ysjoelfir_mobile hopes that he has fixed that stupid quit, join, quit, join... thing
05:27:32 <rust_collector> that would be something
05:28:49 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> The app hat an option to auto rejoin on disconnect. And the tablet tends to disconnect WiFi when not in use for time X, only reconnecting periodically to check for push notifications
05:29:14 <rust_collector> oh, ok
05:30:19 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> At least that is what I assume happened
05:30:27 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> What happened
05:31:14 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> I would prefer to disable that WiFi standby thing, but I can't find an option, so I disabled auto rejoin
05:32:07 <rust_collector> hmm, is it an android?
05:33:04 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Yes
05:33:20 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> A galaxy tab 2 version whatdoiknow
05:33:32 <rust_collector> mmh, then I have absolutely no idea
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05:34:04 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/oszilloskop-100-khz-tektronix-dual-beam-type-502a/1316872817-168-9247?utm_source=sharesheet&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_android
05:34:19 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> He always tries that.. wont sell fo that price
05:34:52 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> I observe those two teks for over two zears now. He started with 300 for one
05:34:57 <rust_collector> I used to listen to swr1 baden.wurttemberg
05:35:36 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> That is a rather nice station. I have it programmed in my radio, too
05:35:59 <rust_collector> blah blah ausfahrt blah blah 3 stunde stau blah blah
05:36:53 <rust_collector> I am not sure how I found it, But I think the computer out in the garage is still playing it...thru its not existing speakers
05:37:17 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Lol
05:42:46 <rust_collector> Ok, I think it is time for my ugly sleep again
05:42:59 <rust_collector> have fun or something
05:49:12 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Now? Ok, gn8
05:58:11 <Lemon> the dude wants to sell me the keithley 610B for less
05:58:38 <Lemon> but it hasnt been on for about 8-10 years, and the supply cable is cut off
06:11:04 <Lemon> I really want this piece, I wanted a 610C but the B is really close
06:12:11 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> For how much?
06:12:22 <Lemon> 75 euros, but Im sure I can lower that
06:12:45 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1744745901.htm/
06:12:53 <Lemon> it looks like the knob on the left isnt stock
06:13:39 <Lemon> 'it should work but I havent tested it since 2010'
06:13:46 <Lemon> what do you think ?
06:13:52 <Lemon> the supply cable itself isnt a big deal
06:15:58 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> If it doesnt work It could bea nice project. The price israther high. I woupd give... 50, for unknown c9nddition
06:16:20 <Lemon> yeah thats what I was thinking, 60 with shipping max
06:16:47 <Lemon> its a nice piece that can measure up to 100 teraohms and down to femtoamps
06:18:23 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Electrometers are interesting kits
06:18:35 <Lemon> he also sells a keithley 197 with non working 200 and 1000 Vdc range
06:18:38 <Lemon> for 35 euros
06:18:44 <Lemon> but I have a 175 already so well
06:21:15 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> I use that at work. Rather ok
06:21:35 <Lemon> I like my 175 honestly, first piece I purchased
06:24:08 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> I loveusing my 199
06:24:17 <Lemon> idk if those 200v and 1000v ranges are easy to fix
06:24:21 <Lemon> or are fixable at all
06:24:46 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Ually yes
06:25:11 <Lemon> do you have an idea ?
06:25:19 <Lemon> I could take it, fix it and sell my 175
06:25:37 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> If you wat to see my 199 video google for keighley 199 -its (at least here) the third googe result
06:26:47 <Lemon> ha I cant find it
06:27:12 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> I would assume either the dvder resistrs or relays switces or simmilar
06:27:37 <Lemon> arent those relay pretty hard to find ?
06:27:59 <Lemon> well I think I'll just try to get the 610B if he lower the price enough
06:28:12 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmQP47NM9Z8
06:29:25 <Lemon> heh neat video !
06:29:36 <Lemon> it looks more complicated than a 175
06:32:35 <Lemon> Id rather not spend too much money in things 'that could work'
06:32:44 <Lemon> I want to equip myself first, and see later
06:33:02 <Lemon> ha he answered me
06:33:08 <Lemon> 70 euros with shipping for the 610B
06:34:33 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Thats to much ihmo
06:34:37 <Lemon> thats acceptable, theres a good 10 euros of shipping
06:34:51 <Lemon> I know what happened to the supply cable btw
06:34:51 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Ad yes the 199 is rather complicated
06:34:57 <Lemon> he cutted it :> because he needed a cable
06:35:10 <Lemon> so well, that is not a problem at all
06:36:03 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Lol
06:36:07 <Lemon> well if it worked 8-10 years ago
06:36:10 <Lemon> why wouldnt it work now ?
06:36:43 <Lemon> when I saw the 610C in the marco reps video I really wanted one so well
06:36:44 <Lemon> I dont know
06:37:01 <Lemon> if its just a cable to solder im more than fine
06:37:40 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Caps maybe
06:38:05 <Lemon> yeah at least those arent that hard to find and replace
06:38:11 <Lemon> that could be a neat project, you are right
06:38:17 <Lemon> those things are pretty sturdy afterall
06:38:36 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Btw.. to bad that rusty is sleeping. I started restauration of the caps of the WW2 radio
06:40:20 <Lemon> hooo thats neat !
06:40:33 <Lemon> do you have a place where you buy those caps ? or you just use the usual websites
06:41:49 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> I actually really restore the caps to keep the authentic looks
06:42:40 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> But if thats not possible i buy new ones from CDE if i need axial caps
06:44:17 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Radial i usually use rubycon
06:45:00 <Lemon> how do you restore them ? im interested :>
06:49:31 <Lemon> he told me the 610B was in a non humid place
06:49:41 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Drilling he old stuff out, stuffng a new one in, glueing it wth black hotglue, done:l
06:49:57 <Lemon> hoooo ok ! well, thats a way to do it :>
06:52:19 <Lemon> e. After Long periods of storage or after an overload, the Model 610B
06:52:19 <Lemon> may drift excessively. Although the electrometer tubes are shock mounted, a
06:52:19 <Lemon> severe jolt can also cause a zero offset. This is corrected with the Zero Controls. Drifting, however, can occur for a few hours.
06:52:40 <Lemon> so if I understand correctly, with a knob I can correct that, and by waiting a few hours it will resolve itself ?
06:59:36 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Drifting is normal
06:59:46 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> That will occur when the device heats up
07:00:13 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> How muc depends on the device itself. Te offset indeed can be adjuted
07:00:34 <Lemon> ho ok so thats alright
07:00:45 <Lemon> im reading on the forum about it
07:00:54 <Lemon> I tend to prefer the older 610 series with 5886 special dual electrometer tube front ends, though they are a bear to keep clean over long periods of non-use. This was mainly because I used them around extremely high fields and voltages. Transistor front ends are more stable but can be zapped in a heart-beat and a replacement matched pair from keith
07:00:54 <Lemon> ley are very big bucks.
07:01:16 <Lemon> do you know what he means by 'they are a bear to keep clean onver long periods of non use' ?
07:02:57 <Lemon> honestly when I read that
07:03:13 <Lemon> 'Most interesting is my observations during a nasty summer thunder storm with the keithley 610C hooked to a sapphire insulated 10 foot longwire in the wooden ceiling of my lab. The zero centered needle very slowly moves in one direction and ultimately pegs left or right. Then suddenly the needle slams across the entire face pegging in the opposite
07:03:14 <Lemon> direction. I start counting and in a second or two a loud thunder clap is heard. The local air charge is slowly built up as charge accumulates. When the bolt hits the earth, all that charge is sucked away leaving a relative opposite indicating charge, only to build up again. Really cool.'
07:03:19 <Lemon> it really makes me want it :>
07:05:12 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Wow. That sounds great, now i want one, too, just to observe thunderstorms
07:05:15 <Lemon> well he said you need to clean them with alchool blablah
07:05:22 <Lemon> Im buying it thats it
07:05:34 <Lemon> he stocked it in a non humid space, it was perfectly working before
07:05:39 <Lemon> im pretty sure it will work
07:05:49 <Lemon> but why the fuck he cut the cable, honestly dude
07:05:54 <Lemon> couldnt he get one somewhere else ? ffs
07:06:08 <Lemon> he got tons of stuff so I guess he inherited from it
07:06:19 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> We will see. Andifnot, rusty will repair if when we visit you
07:06:22 <Lemon> he also got a marconi adret 103 for sale
07:06:37 <Lemon> hehe :>
07:06:45 <Lemon> I hope it will be fixable, if it needs it
07:07:23 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Cleaning the input tubes could be to reduce creepage across the surface dirt
07:08:02 <Lemon> what do you mean by creepage ? I keep seeing this word
07:08:11 <Lemon> I dont fully understand its meaning
07:10:12 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> See it as Charge migrating over a surface
07:11:14 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> In a realy sensitive instrument like an electrometer it can give you very wrong readings
07:42:34 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Lemon? U dead?
07:45:48 <Lemon> excuse me buddy I quickly went to talk with my dear mother
07:46:12 <Lemon> ho ok now I understand !
07:46:26 <Lemon> thank you, so I'll have to remove carefully those tubes and clean them I guess
07:47:19 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Ah. I thought the TEA Virus got you. :l
07:47:29 <Lemon> hooo I fear it got me !
07:48:01 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Hehe^
07:48:09 <Lemon> ok buddy
07:48:13 <Lemon> I think I will get the 610B !
07:48:25 <Lemon> but I need you, can you help me know, what potential part I'll need to replace ?
07:48:31 <Lemon> what can easily fail ? https://web.mit.edu/8.13/8.13d/manuals/keithly-610b-electrometer.pdf heres the manual
07:49:01 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Let me take a look
08:05:16 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> It looks pretty rock solid. Only thing i would take a look at would be the electrolytic caps.
08:06:23 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> If it behaves strangely the psu trannys or the amplifier chain could be potential trouble makers, but i doubt that.
08:06:55 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Also, dirt and stuff like that should be kept away from sensitive parts
08:07:16 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Andthe mechanical parts may need a cleaning
08:10:30 <Lemon> so nothing really hard to get ?
08:10:33 <Lemon> in case it get faulty
08:10:58 <Lemon> because dude, I surely want to see if a fart at the other side of the room will make the needle move !
08:16:14 <Lemon> ho shoot it seems it miss a knob
08:16:19 <Lemon> on the fine/medium one
08:16:43 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Well, some parts are harder to get, but nothing made from unobtainium
08:17:14 <Lemon> https://img4.leboncoin.fr/ad-large/c8111f994012faa43ca9f2b406de9cd6de3cccf1.jpg
08:17:29 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Yep
08:17:33 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> It does
08:17:40 <Lemon> https://img1.leboncoin.fr/ad-large/7b50cad7ece0395a6b2521a191452775cb1eed06.jpg is it me or screws are all corroded ?
08:17:42 <Lemon> arf that sucks
08:18:00 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> But im sure you could fit some nice double tektronix knobs
08:18:29 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> Those darkgrey ones with the red inner secondary knob
08:19:07 <Lemon> well maybe
08:19:09 <Lemon> but those screws...
08:19:18 <Lemon> idk they really look corroded, thats weird
08:23:18 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> They do look corroded, indeed
08:23:26 <Lemon> that doesnt smell good at all
08:26:16 <Lemon> pff idk dude
08:27:01 <Ysjoelfir_mobile> I agree. Corrosion on such an instrument is meh.
08:27:27 <Lemon> yeah and the perfectionnist I am might have a hard time looking at that missing knob
08:27:38 <Lemon> as much as I want an electrometer that measures that low, meh
08:27:52 <Lemon> I cant afford to spend 70 euros on something Im uncertain it will work
08:27:59 <Lemon> im at the phase where I build my lab
08:28:20 <Lemon> if there was just the supply cable missing, alright
08:28:27 <Lemon> but corroded screws, missing knob etc
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09:13:49 <Lemon> anybody there ?
09:18:29 <T3sl4> nope
09:20:36 <Lemon> a weird thing happened
09:20:44 <Lemon> I was following the manual to calibrate my lab supply
09:20:58 <Lemon> at one moment it said 'turn the multimeter into dc amp reading blabla'
09:21:00 <Lemon> I did
09:21:20 <Lemon> and at one moment a spark occured at the output of the supply, were the probe was
09:21:28 <Lemon> I dunno what I did, but I cant explain it
09:21:37 <Lemon> I quickly removed probes
09:21:45 <Lemon> supply seems to work normally
09:21:52 <T3sl4> that's why the meter beeps at you when you leave the plugs in the amps socket
09:22:15 <Lemon> but it never beeps :>
09:22:18 <Lemon> what did I do wrong ?
09:22:47 <Lemon> I think the socket where the probe was is good for mAmps
09:23:01 <Lemon> and the supply was on 1 amp max I think at that moment
09:23:14 <Lemon> how can I know if I damaged something ?
09:23:54 <Lemon> im not used to measure current at all, im learning in that area :>
09:24:42 <T3sl4> might be you just sparked the output, which discharged the cap that's not needed but is inevitably there, and the supply limited safely as usual
09:24:57 <T3sl4> else, search for toasted components or test operation
09:25:35 <Lemon> well thats what I was quietly thinking, it was a small spark, a kind of capacitordischargedwithscrewdriver spark
09:25:48 <Lemon> nothing smoked at all I was literally on top, guts open
09:25:55 <Lemon> I think everything is fine
09:26:09 <Lemon> but I didnt saw the probes crossing
09:26:14 <T3sl4> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
09:26:23 <Lemon> or maybe, maybe banana that were hanging crossed
09:26:26 <Lemon> thats an explaination
09:26:36 <Lemon> it wasnt safe to leave them there, I was looking at them but well
09:26:39 <Lemon> maybe I did that
09:26:51 <Lemon> the dmm works, the supply delivers voltage etc
09:26:56 <Lemon> I guess everything is fine ?
09:33:25 <Lemon> I should start using my gear and learn basic stuff, I dont know why but current always frightened me a bit
09:33:41 <Lemon> which is weird because I got a homemade ebike that pump 40 amp at 50 volts
09:33:50 <Lemon> but I just never got to measure it, im too afraid to break something
09:34:07 <Lemon> but what I did was correct right ? I can safely measure the output current from my lab supply like this ?
09:34:25 <Lemon> or maybe I need to put the probe on the 10 amp socket before ?
09:43:14 <T3sl4> disable the output / set it to 0V, short the output terminals, apply current probe, remove short, enable output
09:44:08 <Lemon> hmm so I can just set it to 0, I cant disable it
09:44:18 <Lemon> btw, one reads 0, the other reads 0.3
09:44:24 <Lemon> thats why I wanted to calibrate it at first
09:44:38 <Lemon> is it a problem if it reads 0.3 ?
09:45:23 <T3sl4> it's a problem if it sparks, i guess
09:46:02 <Lemon> im just afraid to short those terminals :> can I do it briefly while its on 0v ? do I risk anything besides a spark >
09:46:31 <Lemon> and I guess thats how you use the current limitation knob ?
09:46:31 <T3sl4> the supply should be fine with it, and if it's not, it's not a supply worth your time
09:46:40 <Lemon> you short them and reduce
09:47:03 <T3sl4> ye
09:47:55 <Lemon> hmm so when its on 0, the current simply doesnt go up
09:48:05 <Lemon> should I put the voltage knob onlike 25% to see it rise ?
09:48:43 <T3sl4> yeah voltage needs to be up slightly
09:48:44 <Lemon> ok I got my answer
09:48:57 <Lemon> and I swear, those freaking crocodile with silicone
09:49:01 <Lemon> god if I hate them
09:49:03 <Lemon> they slip like shit
09:50:30 <Lemon> alright thanks you made me jump a step that I was afraid of
09:50:35 <Lemon> shorting shit on purpose is always scary
09:50:41 <Lemon> not for me, I dont care
09:50:46 <Lemon> but for the precious gear :>
09:51:18 <Lemon> ok so for the calibration part its alright
09:51:37 <Lemon> but theres still a problem, it seems the knob of the second ouput cant go to zero, like its not physically possible for it
09:51:42 <Lemon> but I dont know if I can pull on it
09:51:45 <Lemon> to remove it
09:52:13 <Lemon> it seems really stuck
09:53:45 <T3sl4> can measure if it's going to zero or if it's offset in the volt amp
09:54:00 <Lemon> nope it measures 0.3 something
09:54:18 <Lemon> and physically it seems off by a bit, compared to the other one that goes to zero
09:54:24 <Lemon> so I think its the knob itself
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11:03:28 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:03:34 <MrMobodies> That's nice retweets
11:04:19 <MrMobodies> I found the culprit for the overheating
11:04:31 <MrMobodies> Not the CPU even though the board is warped
11:04:35 <MrMobodies> Not the GPU
11:04:50 <MrMobodies> The heat is coming from the inductors where there is a pad over them too
11:05:10 <MrMobodies> I replaced them with copper shims, trial and error and the paste seems more level now
11:05:17 <MrMobodies> but I am still not happy with the temperautr
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11:09:50 <Lemon> it can be a pain to find the right size of pads
11:09:55 <T3sl4> uh, watch the red stuff, it may stain
11:14:02 * Ampera deports T3sl4 to snow mexico for that joke
11:14:16 <T3sl4> no maple for you!
11:14:19 <MrMobodies> eit was
11:14:20 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/Ubynfc5
11:14:29 <MrMobodies> I think I had the right shims
11:15:00 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Fluke-101-Basic-Digital-Multimeter-Pocket-Portable-Meter-Equipment-Industrial/352851361474?_trkparms=aid%3D555021%26algo%3DPL.SIMRVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20190711100440%26meid%3D1024fc07e7a0445bbe36497822f8b032%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D9%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D273524954227%26itm%3D352851361474%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047
11:15:01 <Lemon> 675&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982 are those legit ?
11:17:48 <MrMobodies> some negtatives of fakes
11:17:48 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/fdbk/feedback_profile/beyond_theworld?filter=period:TWELVE_MONTHS,overall_rating:NEGATIVE&limit=25
11:18:13 <MrMobodies> I spent all of last night today testing the shims
11:18:19 <MrMobodies> and I have used up a box of
11:18:21 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/zGOK6ua.jpg
11:18:22 <MrMobodies> wipes
11:18:35 <MrMobodies> The problem as you know with that tape
11:18:40 <MrMobodies> put a caliper on it
11:18:50 <MrMobodies> and doesn't always reflect the correct measurement
11:19:18 <MrMobodies> tape: 1mm thick 0.8mm in the centre where the gpu is
11:19:46 <MrMobodies> Put in an 8mm, took it out and saw it was pushing the cpu up and the paste went to one side
11:20:07 <MrMobodies> it is a bad design as there is no screw on the gpu, just a tough bit of foam holding it up
11:20:23 <MrMobodies> on the heatpipe
11:21:43 <MrMobodies> I managed to 44c idle and 61 at the most with bogging downthe cpu
11:22:00 <Lemon> I found a lcr meter that can measure down to 10 atto farads
11:22:14 <MrMobodies> it does run a bit hotter but not as at first since I put the shims on the inductors
11:22:23 <MrMobodies> my heat gun shows it stays at 30 around it
11:22:29 <MrMobodies> instead of 50_+
11:22:40 <MrMobodies> but is seems stable now
11:22:47 <MrMobodies> atto farads?
11:23:05 <Lemon> yeah, down to 0.00001 pf
11:23:15 <Lemon> on the lowest range
11:23:27 <MrMobodies> oh like absolute zero
11:23:53 <Lemon> yeah thats insane
11:24:02 <Lemon> and its not that expensive when you think about it, 750euros
11:24:13 <Lemon> it measures inductance, resistance, esr etc too
11:24:46 <MrMobodies> when they appreciate how low it goes then it isn't expensive.
11:24:49 <Lemon> I want one but thats a bit too expensive :>
11:25:10 <Lemon> I'll be alright with 0.01 or 0.001pf
11:25:33 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Auto-LCR-Meter-Digital-Bridge-Resistance-Capacitance-Inductance-ESR-Meter-0-3/183286318100?hash=item2aacb74414:g:7EkAAOSwTE1bLGDw this one is well regarded on forums
11:26:01 <MrMobodies> Nice metal design, no horrible rubber buttons
11:26:27 <MrMobodies> the probles like nice too
11:26:33 <MrMobodies> and 12v input
11:26:44 <Lemon> only 0.1pf but well
11:26:48 <Lemon> it goes high which is nice
11:26:58 <MrMobodies> I wouldn't trust the power supply that comes with it
11:27:08 <MrMobodies> my paranoia
11:27:21 <MrMobodies> but I like it when it is plain and simple
11:28:26 <MrMobodies> they have been trading since 2014 with only 1400 feedback and 25 negative feedback this year
11:28:31 <MrMobodies> that sounds like a good seller
11:28:32 <Lemon> hmmm actually it seems to do 0.01pf
11:28:53 <Lemon> ive been eyeing this one for about two weeks
11:29:31 <Lemon> it gives interesting infos, and its nice to test and sort all kind of salvaged parts
11:30:13 <MrMobodies> I know what you mean "eyeing"
11:30:21 <Lemon> :>
11:30:30 <MrMobodies> tempted to buy something, will it do it?
11:30:36 <MrMobodies> hwo well will it do it
11:30:37 <Lemon> yesss
11:30:49 <Lemon> I dislike getting chinese gear on by bench but well
11:30:56 <Lemon> this one I dont have much choices
11:31:00 <Lemon> and it looks nice
11:31:04 <Lemon> decent features, decent prices
11:31:16 <Lemon> comes with tons of stuff
11:31:19 <MrMobodies> Buy a kettle in Germany
11:31:25 <MrMobodies> Made in Germany
11:31:28 <Lemon> those 4 wire kelvin probes are like 15 bucks alone
11:31:30 <MrMobodies> but I bet the parts come from CHina
11:31:39 <Lemon> heh bialettis or nothing
11:32:00 <Lemon> I think the first thing I'll do with this lcr meter
11:32:00 <MrMobodies> I got a Graffe kettle
11:32:03 <MrMobodies> oh
11:32:05 <Lemon> is remove the freaking buzzer
11:32:14 <MrMobodies> it looks like a nice unit
11:32:20 <MrMobodies> solid metal
11:32:45 <MrMobodies> "If they were going to make it crap they would use cheap plastic."
11:32:56 <Lemon> yeah tons of peeps like it
11:32:57 <Lemon> https://rmprepusb.blogspot.com/2019/09/english-user-manual-for-xjw01-lcr-bridge.html
11:33:01 <Lemon> I found that
11:33:41 <MrMobodies> that's handy
11:34:01 <Lemon> I figured that as im not getting that electrometer, I might aswell use the money for something I'll actually use more than for shits and giggles
11:34:09 <Lemon> (im still sad about not getting it trust me)
11:34:09 <MrMobodies> pitfall "try to pay attention don't press the wrong button"
11:34:18 <Lemon> yes lol just read that
11:34:56 <Lemon> and double lol, he sells his pdf for 3 bucks
11:34:58 <MrMobodies> I think you would want to see it in action
11:35:13 <Lemon> ho dont worry, one day I'll buy one
11:35:16 <Lemon> that or a 617
11:35:33 <MrMobodies> sometimes its nice saving for things
11:36:10 <MrMobodies> like this laptop that I have to replace soon
11:36:12 <Lemon> yeah and I'll stop getting gear for amoment I think, unless its a cute thing for 20 euros or an insane deal
11:36:16 <Lemon> I want to start building things
11:36:28 <Lemon> I want to build standards
11:36:33 <Lemon> a decade box
11:36:44 <Lemon> speaking of laptop I need to sell mine
11:36:46 <Lemon> I forgot shit
11:36:51 <MrMobodies> I refuse to sell mine
11:36:55 <MrMobodies> it is sentimental to me
11:37:08 <Lemon> man its the same for me you know
11:37:15 <MrMobodies> It is a W700 Quad core with a Qquadro 3700m
11:37:17 <Lemon> but it loses value, and I dont touch it anymore
11:37:19 <MrMobodies> 2009
11:37:25 <MrMobodies> never overheats
11:37:39 <MrMobodies> wacom tablet keeps on breaking but I don't use it
11:38:03 <MrMobodies> I have also grit behind the screen
11:38:08 <MrMobodies> that sometimes moves around
11:38:26 <MrMobodies> it cost me I think £2400
11:38:47 <MrMobodies> but it was worth it after the amount of use I got out of it
11:39:22 <MrMobodies> I know they sold some I5 ones so I'll see if I can get a newish one
11:39:29 <coppice_> bugs behind the screen can be a PITA, especially if they leave a trail before dying
11:39:42 <Lemon> yeah I get it trust me, I paid 2k for mine, its only 3 years but if I sell it now I'll maybe get 700-800 euros, if I dont it'll lose value
11:40:03 <MrMobodies> Well I brought this one because of the expansion inside
11:40:08 <MrMobodies> 2 hard drive bays
11:40:21 <MrMobodies> one bay for Cdrom/battery of hard drive frame thingy
11:40:33 <MrMobodies> 2 expresscard slots
11:40:49 <MrMobodies> 2 mini pcie slots
11:41:12 <MrMobodies> I used it a lot for disc imaging
11:41:25 <MrMobodies> the camera is crap but I don't use it
11:43:56 <MrMobodies> Going to burn some rubbish
11:44:09 <Lemon> I think im going to bed
11:44:19 <Lemon> ho also, I found the specs of that meter
11:44:56 <Lemon> 100uOhms to 20Mohms, 0.01pf to 200mf, 100nH to 2000H
11:45:00 <Lemon> thats really good
11:45:06 <Lemon> 0,3% accuracy
11:45:44 <Lemon> theres tons of things I dont understand
11:45:50 <Lemon> which is good, more things to learn
11:46:13 <Lemon> I just hate waiting a month when I buy something more than a few euros
11:48:57 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Hantek-Digital-Handheld-LCR-Meter-Inductance-Capacitance-Ohm-testers-1832C-1833C/324029871246?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3Db6e0cc9e9e44409f9febacddd643ef22%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D151147013336%26itm%3D324029871246%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D204
11:48:57 <Lemon> 7675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 theres this one too, more expensive, a bit more precise, logging on pc etc
11:52:03 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/2020XJW01-Auto-LCR-Digital-Bridge-Resistance-Capacitance-Inductance-ESR-Meter/122468193870?hash=item1c83ac564e:g:nWYAAOSwkjNZqh0o heres the lowest price I found
11:52:12 <Lemon> which is also the fastest to come here it seems
11:52:28 <Lemon> anyway, im going to sleep ! see you buddies have a good night/day
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12:45:35 <MrMobodies> from that same seller for $45 serial over network
12:45:36 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/USR-TCP232-410S-Serial-RS232-RS485-to-TCP-IP-Ethernet-Modbus-TCP-Httpd-Client/123407861921
12:45:44 <MrMobodies> Oh he's gone to sleep oops
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18:54:02 <Halcyon> Evening all
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19:14:56 <steve30> hi
19:16:08 <steve30> I can't quite determine if there is something wrong with my boiler
19:16:16 <Halcyon> Oh?
19:16:55 <steve30> The pressure gauge keeps dropping unusually low when its turned off.
19:17:16 <Halcyon> Strange
19:17:46 <steve30> But in other news, my Mum approved my idea to get air conditioning installed, as long as she can have one in her bedroom
19:17:53 <Halcyon> \o/
19:18:01 <Halcyon> Air conditioning is awesome
19:30:16 * steve30 pounces onto Halcyon's lap
20:09:38 * steve30 meows
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20:12:00 <Lemon> hey peeps
20:12:02 <steve30> hi Lemon
20:12:17 <Halcyon> Hey Lemon
20:13:19 <Lemon> how its going bois ?
20:14:13 <Halcyon> Not too bad, yourself/
20:14:13 * steve30 needs food
20:14:30 * Halcyon munches on broccolini
20:14:35 * steve30 nibbles on Halcyon
20:14:45 <Lemon> ho im alright, I sleep well, tooth are leaving me alone, heh
20:15:22 <steve30> I'm going to the gym again later
20:16:29 <Halcyon> Having dental issues?
20:17:02 <Lemon> yeah I got 3-4 molars destroyed that needs to be removed, and a few bad ones on the front too
20:22:18 <Halcyon> Bugger
20:22:42 <Lemon> well, multiple drugs during 7-8 years, absence of cleaning
20:22:45 <Lemon> thats my fault
20:23:35 * steve30 approves of clean teeth
20:24:25 <Halcyon> Yep
20:24:35 <Halcyon> Gotta clean every day
20:24:49 <Halcyon> Plus a dentist clean a few times a year
20:24:54 <Lemon> I quieted them 3 years ago, im trying my best to restore them :>
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20:25:20 <steve30> I clean my teeth every day. Haven't had a dentist do it for many years though
20:25:41 <Halcyon> I went in October :)
20:26:26 <steve30> I use NHS dentists. I don't think you'd routincely get a cleaning on the NHS unless they thought it necessary. Although I sacked my last dentist a couple of years ago so haven't been at all since then
20:26:39 <Halcyon> Oh right, yeh I pay for it
20:26:48 <Halcyon> I don't have private health insurance, it's not worth it
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20:28:08 <steve30> would insurance cover things like cleaning?
20:28:17 <Halcyon> Medicare doesn't extend to "cosmetic" things
20:28:21 <Halcyon> Yeh normally
20:28:30 <Halcyon> Glasses and eye checkups too
20:28:48 <Halcyon> But I'd rather pay like $400 a year rather than much more in premiums
20:29:12 <steve30> I need to go to the optician in the near future
20:32:15 <Lemon> I need to start making a list of the components I need for my projects
20:32:28 <Lemon> ho also yesterday I saw the fluke 101
20:32:47 <Lemon> I kinda like it, and I read on forums that it is indeed made in corea, can someone confirm ?
20:33:00 <Lemon> I dont have a small portable dmm, that could be perfect
20:35:11 <steve30> Looks reasonable for the price, assuming you don't need current measurements
20:35:25 <Lemon> yeah it would be to go around when I need it
20:35:32 <Lemon> my analog meters are a bit... big :>
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20:47:15 * steve30 needs more coffee
20:58:37 <Lemon> I think Im going to buy 2 or 3 vishay resistors, the most precise I can get
20:58:45 <Lemon> that will make me a cheap standard to calibrate my tools
20:59:00 <Lemon> I think 0.005% are like 20-25 euros a pop
21:01:28 <Lemon> then will come the voltage/current standard
21:01:54 <Lemon> if I can make one thats like 5.00000v (5.000 + a trim pot for last two digits) that would be great I saw its not that hard
21:02:10 <steve30> I got a few precision voltage reference ICs
21:02:26 <Lemon> what I want is achievable ?
21:02:33 <Lemon> for not too much, a few dozen euros
21:03:50 <Lemon> 5.0000 would be fine in fact
21:04:40 <steve30> You can probably get 5.0000 with a good voltage reference IC
21:05:07 <Lemon> how much those cost ? I saw one at 15 euros that was 5.000, with two more digits trimpotable
21:05:40 <steve30> Not sure but €15 sounds reasonable
21:05:47 <Lemon> thats perfect
21:06:10 <Lemon> mamalala wants to give me a nice 6.5 digit og fluke, that will me the most precise dmm I'll have :>
21:06:19 <Lemon> that and a nice 17kg freq counter
21:06:36 <steve30> nice
21:06:43 <Lemon> thats even more than nice !
21:08:50 <Lemon> building my tools sounds really cool
21:09:04 <Lemon> id like to build a resistor decade box with 0.1% ones, as they are cheap enough
21:09:20 <Lemon> and its impossible to get precise 100k or 1m to the single digit anyway
21:09:29 <Lemon> that and a capacitor one, and inductance one
21:11:32 <Lemon> I also want to make a crude electrometer with op amps, that will help me learn them
21:12:30 * Halcyon mews at Ampera
21:16:03 <Lemon> Im debating using either thumbwheel switches or 10 positions pots
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21:23:11 <Lemon> im really happy about my micronta range doubler
21:23:17 <Lemon> its literally new
21:23:29 <Lemon> zero scratches, dirt, traces of use etc
21:23:42 <Lemon> just some leakage from a battery but I cleaned it, desoldered the cable and replaced it
21:23:48 <Lemon> everything works perfectly fine now
21:23:58 <Lemon> and damn its much bigger than I thought haha
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21:29:50 <Halcyon> I'm off to bed gents
21:29:52 <Halcyon> Talk soon
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21:42:10 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
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21:55:24 <DHess_US> Bah, have reached the high temperature for today ... at 4AM.
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22:05:01 <tolletrolden> Hi. I am trying to get a arduino and a triac, to work togehter. But i think i have a little problem, and maybe someone here could check if i am doing things wrong. Please look here: https://github.com/arduino/Arduino/issues/9704
22:05:01 <EEVBlog> hi.
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22:17:40 <K> hello
22:17:40 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
22:19:46 <K> wooooo!!11
22:20:02 <K> it is getting a tad suspicous, though
22:27:47 <hsn93> these people dont know im using static link stuff : https://snipboard.io/HXARuY.jpg
22:28:35 <K> what is that?
22:28:55 <K> looks like someone is scanning for wp vulns
22:29:00 <hsn93> just some stats about users scaning my web
22:29:04 <hsn93> yeah
22:30:36 <hsn93> one registered allready
22:31:23 <K> are you using wp?
22:32:46 <hsn93> no, laravel
22:41:01 <hsn93> but for the stats above its just blog statically linked
22:41:04 <hsn93> with (hugo)
22:41:21 <hsn93> https://gohugo.io/
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23:31:35 <hsn93> https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Theremin/Images/Amplifier_sm.jpg
23:31:47 <hsn93> isnt this ground plane copper ?
23:45:42 <T3sl4> yes
23:57:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Another huge win and legal precedent set for Youtube Copyright Fair Use in the US AND it's for a video with zero commentary added, just 100% spliced original footage. Legal analysis: https://t.co/Fy3SMlS6w6 Original: https://t.co/6QKeDmuCwO
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