// #eevblog — 2020-02-12
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00:06:01 <hsn> google sites isnt bad for creating very basic simple sites ? https://sites.google.com/view/hsn93
00:20:07 <Lemon> back bois
00:20:11 <Lemon> lets try the gen !
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00:24:19 <Lemon> the square wave aint the best, but its better than the first one
00:24:27 <Lemon> seems to have a bit of overshoot, idk how to call it
00:24:30 <Lemon> but its pretty decent
00:24:37 <Lemon> sine/triangular waves are perfectly fine
00:24:55 <Lemon> it got some nice features, sweep with three fonctions, sysmmetry, dc offset, etc
00:25:04 <Lemon> im quite happy for the price :>
00:26:16 <hsn> how do you measure the square wave
00:28:36 <K> using 50 ohm cable and propper termination, as lord intended?
00:29:25 <Lemon> the bnc cable im using is one I bought to the guy for 2 euros, its decent but I didnt measured it, wait
00:30:01 <hsn> do you have termination resistor ?
00:31:07 <Lemon> no I dont think so !
00:31:15 <Lemon> I dont have much knowledge in that area
00:31:22 <Lemon> when I measure it its jumping a bit
00:32:10 <Lemon> in 30 minutes a dude should show up with a box of treasures
00:32:15 <Lemon> for 50 euros total !
00:32:44 <Lemon> its filled with 10's hartmann and braun devices in pretty nice shape, voltmeters, watt/ampmetters, and other things
00:32:47 <Lemon> from 1930's
00:43:34 <hsn> Lemon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPgxFd97taY --> this is good?
00:43:55 <hsn> btw, i also dont have knowledge in this area :D
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00:48:41 <Lemon> sorry I went to see a cat that is really doing bad
00:49:10 <Lemon> I don't know what to do, she has a cancer, right now she is hiding under furniture and meowing like badly
00:49:19 <Lemon> I'm close to call the vet to put her to sleep...
00:50:23 <Lemon> the vet said she can live a few days or a few months, but for me she is in pain
00:50:30 <Lemon> he says not with medication, but im not sure about that
00:56:28 <hsn> oh man 2 days ago i watched a netflix documentary called (dont f**k with cats) i dont feel good with this crap
00:57:02 <K> which?
01:00:50 <hsn> remembering the phsyco killing cats
01:00:55 <K> ah.
01:01:01 <K> fuck him
01:01:25 <hsn> eventually he started killing humans
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01:07:48 <coppice_> well, if the cats are only killing psychos its not so bad
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02:23:53 <Ysjoelfir> Don't you all love that?
02:24:25 <Ysjoelfir> open excel - take a look at something. - close excel.
02:24:35 <Ysjoelfir> "do you want to save your changes?"
02:24:46 <Ysjoelfir> what fucking changes are you talking about?
02:24:56 <hsn> column width
02:24:57 <hsn> :D
02:25:02 <Ysjoelfir> no
02:25:07 <Ysjoelfir> i didn't even click on anything
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02:25:18 <Ysjoelfir> just open - take a look what I wrote today morning - close
02:25:37 <hsn> excel format ?
02:25:39 <Ysjoelfir> i didn't even move my mouse to the spreadsheet part... just straight to the X
02:25:45 <hsn> =time value cells ?
02:25:48 <Ysjoelfir> nope
02:26:18 <hsn> it doesnt happen to me
02:27:17 <hsn> do u have cell that contains time ?
02:28:57 <hsn> actually that doesnt ask for saving
02:29:26 <Ysjoelfir> wait.
02:31:58 <Ysjoelfir> http://webmshare.com/play/qd3NO
02:34:11 <hsn> lots of timing ..
02:34:20 <Ysjoelfir> no, none
02:34:39 <Ysjoelfir> it's all just "if this than that" and "subtract this from that"
02:34:48 <Ysjoelfir> there is NO dynamic content in that map
02:37:30 <hsn> https://superuser.com/questions/464585/why-does-this-excel-file-keep-asking-to-save
02:39:37 <Ysjoelfir> doesn't seem to be any of those mentioned there
02:41:29 <hsn> hmm ,, idk .. 2010 is old :P
02:41:42 <hsn> do you want me to try sample on my version ?
02:42:47 <hsn> too much hustle ,, just ignore xD
02:43:01 <Ysjoelfir> it is indeed, but it's the only one that works. We bought many newer licenses (not that office 365 rubbish), all expired all of the sudden and MS was like "oh, then it wasn't a genuine license!"
02:43:34 <hsn> wtf?
02:44:28 <hsn> or someone was leaking them ?
02:45:00 <Ysjoelfir> I assume that they were some OEM licenses. and that MS gives a shit about international copyright law is nothing new here
02:46:07 <hsn> yeah i used 2010 for long time, then went for 2016 it was big change i dont think i want ever to go back to 2010
02:46:09 <hsn> again
02:46:34 <Ysjoelfir> I use good old office 2003 at home....
02:46:43 <hsn> :D 'bad old'
02:47:00 <Ysjoelfir> I actually never had any problems with it^^
02:47:21 <hsn> i dont remember tbh
02:48:08 <hsn> with office assistant paper holder ?
02:48:30 <hsn> office assistant paperclip
02:51:29 <Ysjoelfir> I disabled that abomination the moment it popped up :D
02:57:52 <hsn> xD
02:57:57 <hsn> have to go c u
03:26:39 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Quit: Farvel og har en hyggelige tid :)
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04:57:09 <Ysjoelfir> Does someone know what happened to Halcyon? Maybe Ampera? Haven't read anything from him for a while
05:01:22 <DHess_US> Coronavirus got them.
05:08:52 <rust_collector> hey-oo
05:12:36 <Ysjoelfir> oh :(
05:12:39 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
05:12:54 <rust_collector> merry weekend people
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05:13:06 <Ysjoelfir> you're a bit early
05:13:22 <rust_collector> no, I am done at work, so it counts
05:19:49 <Ysjoelfir> I accept that ^^
05:20:07 <Ysjoelfir> how is your sabine elsa storm thing doing?
05:20:18 <Ysjoelfir> did you have to deliver fish to the water again?
05:26:48 <rust_collector> nope, I did my regular inland trip today
05:27:17 <rust_collector> It is a bit weird to call this a storm, because it is pretty nice outside, lol
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05:31:05 <Lord_of_nothing|43> Hey
05:31:14 <Lord_of_nothing|43> Anyone here want chat arround?
05:31:35 <rust_collector> it is not like we have anything else to do
05:32:01 <Lord_of_nothing|43> well i would say it depend on the local time
05:32:15 <Lord_of_nothing|43> if you my time are still in the office you are a poor dude
05:32:43 <rust_collector> I got home half an hour ago
05:33:26 <Lord_of_nothing|43> do you have some time to do me a favor?
05:33:31 <rust_collector> but my office moves around, so it is not a bad place to be
05:33:44 <Lord_of_nothing|43> I need someone who look over my map i create with open data
05:34:04 <rust_collector> heh. I don't know much about that, but...
05:34:16 <Lord_of_nothing|43> do you ever visit austria?
05:34:46 <rust_collector> not on purpose
05:35:20 <Lord_of_nothing|43> http://map.refx.at/index.html
05:35:31 <rust_collector> I think i went thru switzerland once
05:38:25 <rust_collector> what is the red wifi sign?
05:39:46 <Lord_of_nothing|43> wifi?
05:40:00 <rust_collector> it looks like a wifi sign
05:40:34 <Lord_of_nothing|43> its a free wifi hotspot
05:40:40 <rust_collector> oh
05:40:48 <rust_collector> that makes sense then
05:41:33 <Lord_of_nothing|43> there are 2 different free wifi operator in one
05:41:49 <Lord_of_nothing|43> 1) the City of Vienna and 2) the Public Transport Company
05:42:19 <Lord_of_nothing|43> And the most Railway Station are equipt with free wifi to but there is no sign for
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05:45:58 <Lemon> hi peeps
05:46:12 <rust_collector> hi yourself
05:46:40 <Lord_of_nothing|43> Servus
05:46:44 <Lemon> I lost a cat today :(
05:46:49 <Lord_of_nothing|43> oohhhh
05:47:04 <Lemon> we had to put her to sleep, she had a cancer
05:47:25 <rust_collector> zzzzzz
05:47:40 <Lord_of_nothing|43> I hope you still watch funny cat fails to get in better moode?
05:47:54 <Lord_of_nothing|43> Your died to a long time ago.
05:48:00 <Lemon> ho theres 17 left you know
05:48:04 <rust_collector> well, that is good then. Makes no sense to keep dragging it out
05:48:05 <Lord_of_nothing|43> Since them I can sleep in the night.
05:49:52 <rust_collector> I sort of like cat. but not cats. they are impressive animals, but I do not think they should live up here
05:51:45 <Lord_of_nothing|43> when someone say cat i must think about that: https://www.basmachinery.com/photos/1280/Used-Construction-equipment-Caterpillar-349-D-LME-Track-2014_140364_1.jpg
05:52:15 <rust_collector> heh, you found an odd one
05:53:09 <Lord_of_nothing|43> there are 3 think i hate about cats:
05:53:21 <Lord_of_nothing|43> 1) when the wake me up in the morning
05:53:27 <Lord_of_nothing|43> 2) how the food stinks
05:53:55 <Lord_of_nothing|43> 3) when the think i dont know what there pla is
05:54:01 <Lord_of_nothing|43> plan
05:54:22 <rust_collector> I might be old, but this is my kind of cat https://media.sandhills.com/img.axd?id=4047631581&wid=4326182721&rwl=False&p=&ext=&w=639&h=480&t=&lp=MAT&c=True&wt=False&sz=Max&rt=0&checksum=zTTkXK44E5HeBqZLhnoy3cRtEhSKVxQotu73IRA4hGk%3d
06:00:22 <Lemon> ho also rust
06:00:30 <Lemon> cables werent 66 euros, it was 80 total with tva
06:00:40 <Lord_of_nothing|43> Does your Cat purr to?
06:00:49 <Lemon> so I ended up getting some on aliexpress, 5 pairs + 6 pairs of crocodiles for 22.5 euros total
06:00:54 <Lord_of_nothing|43> Where are you from?
06:03:39 <rust_collector> moskva
06:03:48 <rust_collector> maybe
06:04:01 <Lord_of_nothing|43> I mean @Lemon
06:04:21 <Lord_of_nothing|43> My Grandpa just get to Stahlingrad.
06:04:36 <Lemon> france
06:05:13 <Lord_of_nothing|43> How is the current situation with the protest?
06:05:31 <Lemon> boarf always the same thing
06:05:47 <Lemon> people scream a lot but when it takes to actually do something they lose their balls
06:06:08 <Lord_of_nothing|43> our media ignore that topic totally
06:06:42 <rust_collector> up here, we just assume the french are out demonstrating for something
06:09:41 <Lord_of_nothing|43> do you watch russia today?
06:10:23 <rust_collector> I watch russia every day
06:12:49 <Lemon> I got my waveform gen today
06:13:00 <Ysjoelfir> so you frenchies are demonstrating again for something? you don't hear that here
06:13:01 <Lemon> its pretty neat and in nice condition
06:13:17 <Lemon> ho you know we love to demonstrate
06:13:30 <rust_collector> they are always demonstrating, so no one bothers to mention it
06:13:45 <rust_collector> just assume they are, always
06:13:49 <Lord_of_nothing|43> and execute kings and monarchs....
06:13:59 <rust_collector> they were born in protest
06:15:46 * steve30 woke up
06:16:13 <Lord_of_nothing|43> well does anyone think its a bad idea to punch some peltier module together and power them from the train power outlet to get cool air?
06:17:58 <rust_collector> yes
06:18:17 <rust_collector> how long do you plan to sit on the train?
06:18:41 <Lord_of_nothing|43> my next tour goes over hours
06:18:59 <rust_collector> ok, then it might work after a while
06:20:32 <Lord_of_nothing|43> 10:44 for Wien - Graz - Feldkirch
06:23:23 <Lord_of_nothing|43> and return 6:16
06:23:33 <Lord_of_nothing|43> it will be a long day on the train
06:28:35 <Lemon> ho also rust im making a list for a project
06:29:11 <Lemon> I wanted to make a resistor box, but I'll use two pots, a 100k and a 1k, ten turns low ppm/C, 0.1%
06:29:39 <Lemon> and 4 switches, 100k, 200k, 300k and 400k, to go up to 1,1M ohm
06:30:07 <Lemon> two banana plugs, to connect a dmm for reading
06:30:10 <Lemon> and voila
06:31:08 <Lord_of_nothing|43> I orderd a network rack
06:31:18 <Lord_of_nothing|43> there my SDR Stuff get into
06:31:22 <rust_collector> why not an amm?
06:34:07 <Lemon> amm ?
06:36:41 <rust_collector> not d mm
06:37:14 <Lemon> the final specs will be 2w max, up to 1,101Mohms, 50ppm/C, for 50 euros including the box
06:37:44 <Lemon> as I can use a dmm to read it, it will be more precise than a decade box
06:38:14 <Lemon> as no matter how expensive you pay for resistors, even 0.01% tolerance, in the 100k/1M range you lose the 1ohm resolution
06:38:37 <Lemon> with 10 turn pots, you can have a pretty accurate number, up to your dmm resolution
06:38:53 <rust_collector> mmhmmm
06:39:01 <Lemon> and 2 watts is nice
06:39:09 <Lemon> usually those decade boxes are 1/4 or 1/8w
06:39:57 <Lemon> haaa wait
06:40:01 <Lemon> I forgot tva again
06:40:06 <Lemon> well doesnt matter
06:40:15 <Lemon> its still a lot cheaper than a decade box
06:40:33 <Lemon> and I prefer to spend 65-70 euros for that rather than cables
06:41:01 <rust_collector> but you need CABLES!!!
06:41:06 <Lemon> I bought them !
06:41:09 <Lemon> but on aliexpress
06:41:19 <Lemon> 5 pairs + 6 pairs of clip on crocodiles
06:41:19 <rust_collector> well, good luck, lol
06:41:33 <Lemon> it costed me 22.5 euros total, and well I must they say they look good enough
06:41:38 <Lemon> hundreds of good reviews
06:43:28 <Lemon> should I keep the 1k pot for fine tuning or take a 100 ohms ?
06:43:32 <rust_collector> but as you said... they only need to make a good connection and somethingsomething. they don't need to look good
06:43:33 <Lemon> 100k for coarse
06:43:40 <Lemon> yeah exactly
06:44:35 <rust_collector> how many turn pots?
06:44:40 <Lemon> 10 turns
06:44:55 <Lemon> bournes pots, please
06:44:59 <Lemon> 17 euros a piece
06:45:43 <rust_collector> 10 turns, I think you should be ok with a 1k?
06:45:56 <rust_collector> or 10k, I dunno
06:45:56 <Lord_of_nothing|43> I need some heat resistence "hobby box" who is non cunductive
06:46:01 <Lemon> I was thinking, lets say I want 0.01 ohms
06:46:08 <Lemon> will the 1k be fine enough
06:46:14 <Lemon> I think it will
06:46:29 <Lemon> with enough patience
06:47:17 <rust_collector> put nice big knobs on it
06:47:43 <rust_collector> big in diameter
06:48:00 <Lemon> yeah on that question
06:48:08 <Lemon> idk what to get, I have a few salvaged but idk if they will fit
06:56:04 <Ysjoelfir> see if you have some with clamp or screw mount for the shaft diameter your pots have. that will work
06:56:59 <Lemon> hmm no I think mine wont fit
06:57:10 <Lemon> ho Ysjoelfir idk if you read it but
06:57:17 <Lemon> I will ad 4 switches, for a 1M range
06:57:22 <Lemon> 100, 200, 300 and 400k
06:57:31 <rust_collector> you can bore the shaft hole in a knob
07:06:33 <rust_collector> or go to your local kitchen store, and grab some knobs from a pizza oven
07:32:47 <rust_collector> https://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/
07:33:04 <rust_collector> you old people might remember this
07:36:13 <Lord_of_nothing|43> nothing is better than apple cyder
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08:07:23 <MrMobodies> I have never heard of such an octopus before
08:07:45 <MrMobodies> it looks like it adapted to land
08:07:55 <rust_collector> yes, like it says
08:08:20 <MrMobodies> now climbing trees, that's like an achievement
08:08:27 <rust_collector> yup
08:08:53 <rust_collector> nature likes to adapt things.
08:09:38 <MrMobodies> I wonder if it can sting whoever touches it
08:11:08 <MrMobodies> oh it does "can inflict a lethal bite, much like it's marine cousin, the lesser Hapalochlaena lunulata."
08:13:44 <rust_collector> well, it is in general not violent. even a small cat can kill you, if it gets stuck in your throat
08:14:23 <MrMobodies> I suppose only if threatened
08:14:47 <MrMobodies> I saw a documentary once where some fish got stuck in a river, large fish wouldn't eat them due to some sharp razor things on their bodies
08:14:58 <MrMobodies> but there was changes in their DNA
08:15:18 <MrMobodies> and the offspring didn't have the sharp things so the other larger fish got them
08:15:24 <rust_collector> hmm, mutant fish... that is cool
08:15:29 <rust_collector> not great for them
08:15:34 <MrMobodies> in the wrong place
08:16:03 <MrMobodies> the DNA seems to change in different environments
08:16:19 <MrMobodies> and shows through the offsping
08:17:11 <MrMobodies> I think they near the sea but they got stuck somewhere near a river
08:17:22 <MrMobodies> can't remember the name of the fish
08:17:50 <rust_collector> robert
08:37:05 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector!
08:37:24 <rust_collector> no, robert, I am pretty sure
08:37:34 <Ysjoelfir> ah, damn! ;P
08:37:44 <Ysjoelfir> you remember the old WW2 Radio I am working on?
08:37:52 <rust_collector> yeaaaaaa?
08:38:24 <rust_collector> you hit caps lock, and
08:38:45 <MrMobodies> what kind world war radio was it?
08:38:53 <MrMobodies> like an American Colins?
08:38:57 <rust_collector> model 2 war
08:39:32 <Ysjoelfir> no, the extremely cheap german DKE38 @MrMobodies
08:40:02 <MrMobodies> https://antiqueradio.org/art/Kleinempfaenger05.jpg
08:40:05 <Ysjoelfir> I got the time to work a bit on it today. I re-stuffed the old caps
08:40:24 <rust_collector> some of the bigger german radios look so complicated, when you compare to the american ones on youtube
08:40:26 <MrMobodies> that's a big silver valve in there
08:40:39 <rust_collector> re-stuff?
08:40:46 <Ysjoelfir> jep, thats the chassis of it. and yes, the speaker chassis (and the cone and everything) is made completely from paper
08:40:54 <Ysjoelfir> the big valve is a VCL11
08:41:31 <Ysjoelfir> yes, restuffing. basically drilling/melting the old cap out of the bakelite tube and glueing a new cap in
08:41:50 <Ysjoelfir> makes a great mess but it gives you the opportunity to restaurate it in a more original look
08:42:18 <rust_collector> oh, so you make cap covers out of the old ones?
08:42:30 <Ysjoelfir> yes, basically
08:42:40 <rust_collector> that is neat
08:42:55 <MrMobodies> So you are resuing the paper caps
08:43:06 <MrMobodies> that;s good
08:43:26 <Ysjoelfir> you may remember that picture from a few weeks ago - the caps (and resistors) before
08:43:26 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/19LkyV3onMpIDeVEADNyTdpPpk65k16Hn/view?usp=sharing
08:43:27 <MrMobodies> oh sorry gluing new ones
08:43:58 <Ysjoelfir> well, it made a mess... https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fq565t9OveZJPzHKY56udJu3L7ge7hkb/view?usp=sharing
08:44:20 <Ysjoelfir> but now they are as good as new :) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FnQxgXGxx-I07sPP3Nx8mP-dcXVgCM61/view?usp=sharing
08:44:35 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F_HVUAOAzc1aqc-oFyltKMS0NzHWVLy_/view?usp=sharing
08:45:01 <Ysjoelfir> carful, nazi symbols approaching! :O https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FZ5f_KEpB-ut7yAh1-nzJmWEQMF8nx_T/view?usp=sharing
08:45:22 <rust_collector> your inner german is showing. that is not a mess
08:45:54 <MrMobodies> 2.5% Flux and Parkside
08:45:59 <MrMobodies> made in Germany
08:46:06 <rust_collector> I like that they bothered to mark damn capacitors like that
08:46:39 <MrMobodies> they look quite long
08:46:49 <MrMobodies> and lots of solder on the ends
08:47:02 <MrMobodies> the thin black ones
08:48:02 <Ysjoelfir> I like how they turned out :)
08:49:41 <Ysjoelfir> MrMobodies, you seem interested - if you want to see a few more pics take a look at the folder of the project.
08:49:42 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19LJUXPHN_ItAR3qN92aClTNa6j9QudDR?usp=sharing
08:49:50 <MrMobodies> thanks
08:50:08 <Ysjoelfir> it's not much yet, but I will work on it in the coming days a bit more
08:50:40 <Ysjoelfir> I already cleaned all metal parts and the chassis. next on the list would be polishing the bakelite case and glueing it
08:50:55 <Ysjoelfir> finding a way to replace the resistors in a... good looking way
08:51:07 <Ysjoelfir> and after that of course reassembling that thing
08:51:23 <Ysjoelfir> + maybe some tweaking
08:51:54 <Lord_of_nothing|43> RE
08:52:01 <Ysjoelfir> wb
08:53:13 <MrMobodies> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FZ5f_KEpB-ut7yAh1-nzJmWEQMF8nx_T/view?usp=sharing
08:53:30 <MrMobodies> It looks like the NAZI logo on it
08:53:41 <Ysjoelfir> it is
08:53:51 <Ysjoelfir> it's the "Reichsadler"
08:54:18 <Ysjoelfir> yes, they went through the efford to print it onto caps.
08:54:20 <Ysjoelfir> and tubes.
08:54:49 <Ysjoelfir> and the chassis, speaker, output transformer, choke, coils, scale and even the damn line plug
08:55:04 <MrMobodies> it looks like cloth on the wires
08:55:11 <rust_collector> I used to use a terminal color scheme called reichsadler, lol
08:55:38 <_mamalala> does it have the swastika under the eagle?
08:55:39 <Ysjoelfir> it was, and it was crumbly as fuck, so i ripped everything apart and will rebuilt it completely
08:55:44 <Ysjoelfir> lol
08:55:47 <Ysjoelfir> yes it has
08:55:59 <MrMobodies> Conrad Direct
08:56:06 <_mamalala> because, i mean, we still have an eagle as a symbol... geometry slightly changed, and no swastika anymore, but still
08:56:07 <MrMobodies> SOLDER
08:56:20 <_mamalala> Ysjoelfir: ah, ok, it's not that visible in the picture
08:56:47 <Ysjoelfir> it was rather hard to take a pic of it. the big one on the front is better visible
08:57:28 <_mamalala> yea, i can imagine... the size and colours don't make it easy to get a decent pic
08:57:53 <Ysjoelfir> yep. black on dark red/brown
08:58:04 <Ysjoelfir> but hey, the one on the front is black on black
08:58:10 <Ysjoelfir> but it's embossed
08:59:02 <Lord_of_nothing|43> Well if you post that on a german or austrian site you can went to jail for.
08:59:12 <_mamalala> apropos radios ... if anyone is interrested in a bunch of old-ish SB radios for free.... i got a bunch... mostly am/ssb, 10/11 meters ... most work, some dont ... just collecting dust here now
08:59:47 <_mamalala> Lord_of_nothing|43: no, not exactly
09:00:02 <Ysjoelfir> lord: nah. not really. It's allowed for... how can i translate it... to keep technology in its original state
09:00:07 <_mamalala> the context is important as well .... otherwise we couldn't have any hostory books or docus, for example
09:00:14 <Ysjoelfir> correct
09:00:24 <Ysjoelfir> but despite that
09:00:30 <_mamalala> you can always show that stuff for historical reasons, which is the case here
09:01:01 <Ysjoelfir> but you shouldn't realy place a radio like that in your living room, on a shelf, with a little golden cloth under it...
09:01:10 <Ysjoelfir> that could get... weird looks
09:01:25 <_mamalala> indeed
09:01:30 <_mamalala> and understandably so
09:01:39 <Ysjoelfir> but in a collection it is totaly fine
09:01:54 <rust_collector> but... if they are in my living room... and they react to a radio, I think I am doing ok
09:02:00 <Lord_of_nothing|43> the swastica must be blurred
09:02:07 <_mamalala> Lord_of_nothing|43: nope
09:02:13 <Ysjoelfir> no, it must not.
09:02:23 <Ysjoelfir> many people do it, but it MUST not.
09:02:36 <rust_collector> and should not
09:03:08 <Ysjoelfir> I agree.it won't get better by hiding stuff
09:03:12 <_mamalala> it is, after all, a part of our history, albeit a really sad one ... erasing it out would be akin to denying it
09:03:48 <rust_collector> meh, it did look pretty good
09:04:08 <_mamalala> what did?
09:04:20 <rust_collector> lots of stuff did
09:04:29 <_mamalala> the uniforms? well, hugo boss is still doing clothing... :P
09:04:31 <Ysjoelfir> I assume that most of the people alive in germany didn't even exist back then, so imho it shouldn#t be a problem at all. :)
09:04:32 <Ysjoelfir> xD
09:04:37 <rust_collector> mmhmm
09:05:05 <rust_collector> but even those markings on a cap. it is not looking bad
09:05:43 <Ysjoelfir> I admit that I like the asthetics of the logom too. I like the idea of a majestic animal holding the nations symbol in his claws.
09:05:53 <rust_collector> yeah
09:06:46 <Ysjoelfir> god, if I would have said that on the street I would have already been shot. at least twice.
09:06:47 <MrMobodies> I like the colour of the red caps
09:07:08 <MrMobodies> it looks military to me
09:07:23 <Ysjoelfir> you mean in the pic after restuffing?
09:07:36 <rust_collector> maybe that is because the military probably still uses that stuff
09:08:01 <MrMobodies> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FnQxgXGxx-I07sPP3Nx8mP-dcXVgCM61/view?usp=sharing
09:08:02 <MrMobodies> the skin
09:08:07 <MrMobodies> of the large dark red ones
09:08:29 <_mamalala> well, the imagery and style of the NS regime played a big part in it's success... all the bombastic presentation, etc...
09:08:48 <rust_collector> The radio I had in the military, had spent a winter in the sea.
09:08:48 <_mamalala> and the you got people like Leni Riefenstahl and her movies
09:09:15 <Ysjoelfir> that is said "after" pic :) I asked because in another picture that cap looks cherry red, which is incorrect. but this one is pretty close to its real color
09:09:36 <Ysjoelfir> exactly _mamalala.
09:10:13 <Ysjoelfir> IN the sea, rusty? Oo
09:10:18 <rust_collector> yes
09:10:20 <MrMobodies> I see the colour was changd, I didn't notice
09:10:31 <MrMobodies> I;ll take a close look
09:11:13 <MrMobodies> https://drive.google.com/file/d/19LkyV3onMpIDeVEADNyTdpPpk65k16Hn/view?usp=sharing
09:11:22 <_mamalala> but then, i alwayw wondered if Leni Riefenstahl was "truly" german, in the sense they understood it back then ... the name may suggest that that's not the case
09:11:24 <MrMobodies> There seems to be different shades of red there
09:11:51 <Ysjoelfir> that is what I meant - that red is way to... red. the other photo you linked before is the actual color :)
09:11:52 <_mamalala> otoh, there was so much crazyness and delusion with these folks back then...
09:12:22 <MrMobodies> and a pink one too
09:12:24 <Ysjoelfir> I doubt it, which is actually pretty ironic in itself^^ (regarding leni)
09:13:09 <_mamalala> and let's not forget all the mythical stuff the hardcore nazis believed in.... just ridiculous... makes Scientology look rather sane
09:13:24 <Ysjoelfir> jep. it was ridiculous^^
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09:14:15 * Ampera smacks Ysjoelfir with a blood sausage
09:14:16 <rust_collector> I think, with some small adjustments, they would have done much better
09:14:25 <Ysjoelfir> yikes o.o
09:14:26 <Ysjoelfir> oh
09:14:29 <Ysjoelfir> blood sausage!
09:14:36 * Ysjoelfir slobbers on the sausage
09:14:36 <Ampera> also Halcyon is AWOL to cymru
09:14:48 <Ysjoelfir> he has what in his ass?
09:14:58 <Ampera> I need to get some more blood sausage, but it's slightly expensive and I have to go to the other scotland
09:15:15 <Ampera> halcyon is on holiday to canberra
09:15:21 <Ampera> for the week
09:15:30 <Ysjoelfir> ah :) ok.
09:16:53 <Ysjoelfir> rusty: I assume so. but it is always easy to assume when the time is long gone. I sometimes wonder what the world would have turned out if... eg. Hitler was a nice guy instead of a psychopath.
09:17:49 <Ampera> in other news work has concluded
09:17:53 <Ampera> the furnace has been fixed
09:18:07 <Ampera> and the stove has been cleaned
09:18:56 <Ysjoelfir> nice :)
09:19:06 <MrMobodies> Do you have a stove kettle?
09:19:23 <Ampera> no, electric
09:19:26 <MrMobodies> ohh silly me furness
09:19:46 <rust_collector> diesel kettle
09:19:50 <MrMobodies> just cleaning I misread
09:19:52 <Ampera> I am confused, but if this is a furry joke I'll have you know I disapprove immensely
09:20:03 <Ampera> the furnace is for heating the house, the stove is for heating my meals
09:20:09 <MrMobodies> I was going ot ask if it was aluminium or copper
09:20:26 <Ampera> uh
09:20:31 <Ampera> either stainless or aluminium
09:20:32 <rust_collector> stainless?
09:20:37 <rust_collector> YESS!
09:20:41 <Ampera> it's a cheap kettle so probably aluminium
09:21:03 <Ampera> It's actually hard to heat water fast in this house, since we can't operate a decent kettle
09:21:06 <MrMobodies> I use to have one but it was cheap
09:21:22 <Ampera> Ours isn't like plastic kettle cheap, but it's nothing fancy.
09:21:27 <MrMobodies> I wanted copper but they seem to cost a bit
09:21:31 <Ampera> electric kettles are actually rather uncommon in the US
09:21:47 <Ampera> copper is poisonous unless coated, and I don't trust the coating to last
09:21:55 <MrMobodies> I know there is a growing trend for hot taps in the UK
09:22:01 <Ampera> it'd be like making a pot out of lead.
09:22:09 <Ampera> MrMobodies, hot or boiling
09:22:21 <Ampera> because we have central hot water, it just doesn't get boiling hot
09:22:22 <MrMobodies> boiling, cold, and even sparkling
09:22:36 <Ampera> sparkling is nothing new, sodastream's been around for ages
09:22:45 <Ysjoelfir> oh, I have that here in germany. If I go under the shower the water comes out boiling after some time. if I don't step away fast enough I literaly burn myself
09:23:00 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, is it central or on demand localized?
09:23:10 <Ampera> because I know Germany likes their self-contained water heaters for each application
09:23:23 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but this one is central
09:23:25 <Ampera> we have the old American tradition of a big o'l tank with a fire underneath it
09:23:29 <Ampera> ah, nice
09:24:02 <Ysjoelfir> but It just happened all of ths sudden. I assume the old landlord lady was like "ah, my heater is to cold. lets crank it up!"
09:24:11 <rust_collector> up here, we use a big o'l tank with an electric heater.
09:24:15 <Ampera> landlord lady?
09:24:18 <Ampera> landlady
09:24:34 <rust_collector> landlardy
09:24:38 <MrMobodies> Sorry about that though, I thought a stove was an old fashioned gas cooker
09:24:49 <MrMobodies> and many had stove kettles in the days
09:24:55 <Ampera> here stoves = cookers
09:25:06 <Ysjoelfir> oh ,is that realy a word? :D good to know. however, she turned up the central heater temperature which resulted in spontaneuos burns while washing handy, showering or cleaning your ass or dick on the bidet
09:25:22 <Ampera> they're de-jure a box that has a fire in it
09:25:25 <Ampera> so a furnace is also a stove
09:25:47 <Ampera> in general here stove means cooker, it usually doesn'
09:25:53 <MrMobodies> I saw in one in a house, and the used it for heating porridge in the mornings.
09:25:55 <Ampera> t get used for central heating unless you have something that burns solid fuels
09:26:22 <MrMobodies> central heating is allover England
09:26:35 <MrMobodies> I prefer the gravity fed than combi mains pressure
09:26:54 <MrMobodies> where you can add shower pumps
09:26:54 <Ampera> here we have forced air heating
09:27:01 <MrMobodies> forced?
09:27:10 <Ampera> we have some very interesting sorts of heat in the US, for example a lot of home (not here, but around here), are fueled by diesel
09:27:18 <Ampera> aye, ducts with blown air.
09:27:22 <Ampera> ours is natural gas
09:27:52 <Ampera> but where my grandfather is, they have baseboard radiators fueled by diesel
09:28:36 <MrMobodies> is it like a heatpump?
09:28:46 <MrMobodies> where the hot air is recycled
09:28:47 <Ampera> No, heat pumps are heat exchangers
09:28:57 <Ampera> heat pumps don't even need to be forced air
09:29:02 <rust_collector> no, it is a heater with ducts going to where you want the heat, if I got it right
09:29:09 <Ampera> nope
09:29:15 <Ampera> heat pumps are reversible aircons
09:29:23 <_mamalala> ahh, heatpump ....
09:29:25 <Ampera> er, rust_collector, if you meant forced air, yeah
09:29:31 <rust_collector> yes
09:29:41 <Ampera> the blower in it broke today, 200 dollar replacement part wholesale
09:29:50 <MrMobodies> I see now, heats the water up too
09:29:52 <Ampera> just for a plastic squirrel cage blower
09:30:01 <_mamalala> so far i had a big, chonkin window unit for AC, that could only cool ... now i got a LG split unit, that can do both ... can't wait to finally install it
09:30:04 <Ampera> MrMobodies, ours doesn't.
09:30:08 <rust_collector> but how many hours has it been running?
09:30:22 <MrMobodies> oh
09:30:26 <Ampera> our hot water and internal heating are separate
09:30:33 <Ysjoelfir> _mamalala, did you notice my private message? :)
09:30:43 <Ampera> rust_collector, to the best of our knowledge close to 10 years, possibly as long as I've been alive
09:30:53 <_mamalala> Ysjoelfir: yes, and i did reply with stuff... didn't you get it?
09:31:02 <rust_collector> I think 200 is ok for that time
09:31:07 <_mamalala> rust_collector: sent you some messages also
09:31:12 <Ysjoelfir> erm... no oO
09:31:14 <Ysjoelfir> hm
09:31:20 <_mamalala> maybe my irc client borked up....
09:31:22 <Ampera> We never replaced that one (we have two furnaces, one for upstairs one for downstairs), so if it's original, it's close to 20 years old
09:31:37 <Ampera> rust_collector, that was just the part cost, to have some guy screw the thing in was 750 bucks in total
09:31:41 <Ysjoelfir> I guess it's the usual "you are not registered bla bla" stuff?
09:32:10 <rust_collector> 500 to come and swap in a fan... there is a job you should get into
09:32:10 <_mamalala> nope
09:32:21 <_mamalala> let me log-off an log-on again ...
09:32:25 <Ampera> rust_collector, it's not off the table, HVAC is big fucking bucks
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09:32:34 <MrMobodies> I know when I went to Canada the whole house had ducting
09:32:44 <Ampera> especially here when it's uncomfortably hot in the summer, and deadly cold in the winter
09:32:49 <rust_collector> Ampera, and it is usually not exactly hard work
09:33:04 <Ampera> I was planning on being an electrician, but they are fairly similar fields.
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09:33:10 <Ampera> Right now, I do QA.
09:33:20 <MrMobodies> I thougght you loved the software side
09:33:30 <MrMobodies> and good at it too
09:33:48 <_mamalala> aww, damn, when did the register stuff came up?
09:34:06 <rust_collector> just wait until he hacks your ac unit, and plays doom on the thing
09:34:07 <Ampera> Good is relative. I do like programing, but this is a company that will pay me to do things, I don't care what they make me do, and I'm not good enough at programing to operate professionally
09:34:12 <_mamalala> i was connected all the time, and it worked before ... now, after reconnecting, it's different...ahh well...
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09:36:17 <MrMobodies> I think one day you'll be a professional.
09:37:37 <MrMobodies> when you pick things up
09:38:11 <Ampera> MrMobodies, it's not impossible, and where I am right now is definitely not a bad place to be for that
09:38:26 <Ampera> but programing is incredibly stressful, at least for me
09:38:41 <Ampera> It's like being given a math problem on a test, but you keep doing it and never ever stop
09:38:49 <Ampera> you either abandon it completely or take breaks
09:39:46 <MrMobodies> Must be frustrating not always able to solve stuff
09:39:55 <MrMobodies> thanks for explaining
09:41:41 <mamalala> i'm wondering why the /query stuff worked before, and then required registration/+R... didn't do that the last time, i think :P
09:43:51 <MrMobodies> another storm on the weekend
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09:48:17 <MrMobodies> I have some controllers that have kind of a joystick port
09:48:24 <MrMobodies> I think RS485
09:48:30 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/hLp03w8
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09:49:35 <MrMobodies> I was going to take them down and have a play with them one day
09:50:55 <MrMobodies> They came out of a security system from the 80's
09:55:39 <MrMobodies> seems to have gone quiet very quickly
09:56:04 <Ysjoelfir> you scared all away, mentioning RS485 :P
09:56:18 <rust_collector> sssh! the robots are listening
09:57:01 <MrMobodies> sorry to scare everyone
09:57:41 <rust_collector> I think they are far enough away now...
09:57:57 <MrMobodies> Am I missing something?
09:57:57 <rust_collector> what are you going to do with those things?
09:58:30 <MrMobodies> Well, I'll plug them in, I think one of them in the past was picked up as a serial port but didn't go further
09:58:38 <MrMobodies> also a good thing for you to play with
09:58:58 <MrMobodies> after I finished my router and the workshop about next week
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09:59:27 <MrMobodies> I'll give you remote access through the HP switch and I can plug in whatever card you want
09:59:33 <MrMobodies> HO KVM switch
09:59:53 <rust_collector> heh. I have no idea about that stuff
09:59:56 <MrMobodies> I couldn't pickup the long one,
10:00:30 <MrMobodies> I have a boolket on them, Chubbs Prism security which came out of a Tanden 286 running QNX
10:01:10 <MrMobodies> I think that was in 1998 when it was given to me
10:02:09 <MrMobodies> There would be what they call a "mulitplexer" on each floor, wired to one another that was connected to that bus, and if one failed another took over.
10:03:56 <MrMobodies> they controlled panel with a keypad and a card swipe, I can't find any now, but it had a golden look
10:16:11 <MrMobodies> Here we go I found the book, and this is what they're for
10:16:13 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/PYBsyRx
10:17:14 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 all
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10:17:33 <mamalala> yey! the cb radios found a new home as well ...
10:18:08 <mamalala> so i don't have to trash them, and still get some shelf spüace back ... fantastic
10:41:07 <rust_collector> I have an old cb, for use in a car. I should see if that thing works at all
10:42:55 <rust_collector> hmm, there was something about not using it without an antenna?
10:44:28 <MrMobodies> I thought they had tiny antennas
10:45:03 <rust_collector> I dunno, but it has a big screw on connector on the back
10:45:34 <rust_collector> it might have something inside. I do not know
10:50:58 <rust_collector> I sort of hope it does not work, because I do not feel like talking to people
10:53:55 <mamalala> na, cb is in the 11 meter band, so you need at least a 1/4 antenna, which is roughly 2.5 meters .... you can coil it up, but that still needs space
10:54:12 <mamalala> and no, never use any radio transmitter without a proper antenna
10:54:25 <mamalala> no matter what the frequency
10:55:28 <mamalala> if you are just used to DC and the regular AC stuff, then RF seems like magic in how it behaves
10:55:34 <rust_collector> yes
10:55:51 <mamalala> learned that the hard way when i did my diy metcal soldering station
10:56:17 <rust_collector> I am not very electronic at all. I do ok with simple on and off power sort of circuits
10:56:46 <mamalala> no problem, it's possible to explain rf in that context as well
10:57:53 <rust_collector> Ok, Maybe I know a little bit about some basic stuff, like the car engine management and such. but nothing much more than that
10:58:00 <mamalala> that is, look at it this way .... you turn on and off a switch in a regular fashion ... and whatever you connected load is, it takes it up at the same frequency
10:58:26 <rust_collector> right
10:59:02 <mamalala> but anytime your on/off frequency changes, the load only takes up as much as it is "close to the target", and sends the rest right back at you
10:59:41 <mamalala> now, if you have no load (or a completely mismatched load), all the energy you sent out gets back to you
10:59:56 <mamalala> thenn add that to the power you try to send out
11:00:32 <mamalala> for example, you have an output stage for 100 watts .... you send out 100 watts, and at the same time get back 100, sou have a differential of 200 watts
11:00:45 <mamalala> and yes, this is grossly oversimplified
11:01:26 <mamalala> also, it's basically the same idea that is used by cable-faul detectors
11:01:28 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, I think I was something about measuring the length of a coax cable, by sending a signal into it, and pretty much taking the time before it is reflected back, I think it was. so that sort of makes sense, I guess?
11:02:05 <mamalala> they send out a ping a certain frequency, and look at how much power comes back when ... by simple maths, it can then tell you where the cable fault is, rougly
11:02:20 <mamalala> rust_collector: yes
11:02:59 <rust_collector> mmhmm. i used those actually, for phone lines and regular power lines. they were pretty dang accurate too
11:03:28 <mamalala> for example, you take an rf frequency that equals to 11m, and you send it into a perfect coax that is 11m long, you get no reflection back
11:03:55 <mamalala> yes, they are ... as physics tend to be :)
11:04:28 <mamalala> the only real problem is to have an accurate timebase and accurate readout, that's all ... the basic principle is rather easy
11:05:50 <mamalala> you could look at it in another way as well ... every wave is reflected perfeclty, with the power at which point the reflection occurs (sine wave)
11:06:38 <mamalala> it's just that with the perfect wavelength of whatever is supposed to reflect, you hit the 0-spot in sum, so no reflection
11:07:05 <rust_collector> hmmmm, hm hm hm...
11:07:44 <mamalala> sure, there is lot more going on than that, which is why cable fault detectors can show you a rather accurate point of faukt... but the basic principle is the same
11:08:02 <rust_collector> I think I sort of get the general idea, almost.
11:08:09 <mamalala> (just think of changing the frequency, and looking at where the refelcted signals arrives)
11:09:01 <mamalala> like, if you only use a signal that has exactly 11m wavelength, you can never differentiate between a fault at 11m, 22m, 33m, and so on
11:09:23 <rust_collector> hmm, ok, that makes sense
11:09:36 <mamalala> but by varying the frequency, and looking at when the the reflection arrives, you can calculate where it actually is
11:12:05 <rust_collector> ehm, can I "fake" an antenna? something that will absorb the energy, I guess, without having a mile of wire hooked up?
11:13:51 <rust_collector> I am not sure how useful that would be, but I have been wondering about that
11:14:31 <mamalala> yes
11:14:41 <mamalala> you need to look at the load impedance
11:14:57 <mamalala> most rf systems are either 50 or 75 ohms
11:15:24 <mamalala> you you can plug in a decent 50 or 75 ohms resistors, and have near perfect SWR
11:15:42 <mamalala> that is, if the resistor is designed for the frequency at hand
11:22:08 <mamalala> ... back in a few minutes, have to eat some food...
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11:45:46 <mamalala> <burps>
11:56:18 * T3sl4 farts
11:56:23 <T3sl4> mmm, pork and bean soup
11:59:13 <Ampera> I bring thee, cats https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315713347368648705/676955372489277463/2020-02-11.png
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12:23:48 <DHess_US> You're lucky they took you in.
12:29:45 <mamalala> mhhh, pork and beans!
12:29:59 <mamalala> but keep your farts to your own, T3sl4
12:30:36 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/wWC95OX.png
12:31:52 <mamalala> pfff....
12:39:10 <MrMobodies> I was just putting in another two hex ports that came yesterday, Silicom Peg6i and I pulled out the other two different models to put into my secondary Pfsense router which will be for spares and testing
12:39:38 <MrMobodies> If that one broke I would want get things back to the way there were fast and with the cables
12:41:06 <mamalala> "hex ports"? sounds like network black magic
12:41:35 <mamalala> and router?
12:41:38 <MrMobodies> Silicom makes them
12:41:48 <MrMobodies> and ones with lots of relays on them "bypass adapters"
12:42:15 <mamalala> fucking propietary stuff that, in the end, just does standard stuff ...
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12:51:40 <MrMobodies> It crashed the "TI Diagnostics failed" and all packet filtering stopped
12:51:54 <MrMobodies> These ones don't have relays on them and i read about the problems with them in the past
12:51:55 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/e1gcAPO
12:53:19 <MrMobodies> I have a feeling that there maybe problems with that particular PLX bridge compared to the other two that i pulled out especially when handling IRQ'S I'll see soon when I start testing each port.
12:55:13 * T3sl4 diagnosticks MrMobodies
12:56:10 <T3sl4> steve30: https://i.imgur.com/w38Jy04.mp4
12:58:47 <MrMobodies> There is cat like that down the pub
12:59:10 <MrMobodies> the dog sometimes tried to diagnose it but it refuses to play
13:01:49 <T3sl4> heh
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13:11:32 <MrMobodies> Not good. It works but as soon as I plug/unplug anything on those hex ports it gradually stops
13:12:16 <MrMobodies> Also they don't share any IRQ'S with the TI nics they have their own
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13:15:16 <DHess_US> Could be worse. The BSD driver for the common Intel 10/100 NICs would not load the firmware unless the card was actually active so you had to reboot after you initialized it for the first time.
13:16:07 <MrMobodies> So it is wasn't assigned, you'd have to reboot after turning it on
13:16:48 <DHess_US> Yes, but it contributed to a lot of confusion. "It wasn't working earlier but now it is."
13:27:07 <MrMobodies> the EM'S don't show up
13:27:32 <MrMobodies> but PCIB*'s shows up and six of them
13:27:33 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/Qi74s9F.jpg
13:28:22 <MrMobodies> Each controller has two ports and there are three controllers per card
13:38:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: In my latest video, for those who think this bad PF can be corrected by the motors in your home etc, think again, this is the current waveform, it is harmonic distortion that is the problem, this can't be just lag/lead corrected, it needs to be filtered. https://t.co/lhxUUBr06n
13:38:24 <MrMobodies> It doesn't do it on certain ports
13:39:28 <MrMobodies> If I plug in a cable, it works, but on certain ports that I unplug a cable and it will stall and the keyboard stops working
13:40:54 <MrMobodies> and speaking of proprietary stuff I am expecting a delivery of a faulty "WDcloud" nas drive that has stopped working and I wonder if that is going to be encrypted.
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15:37:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Deep Space Cafe: “That’s one small step for coffee. One giant leap for all our visitors .” #CoffeeArt #CoffeeLover #Apollo11 #Moonwalk https://t.co/W9Dm2NLuwA
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15:52:55 <MrMobodies> Put the old nics back in and now the same problem but they don't show up as EM0, EM1, etc anymore but like this "[intr{irq262: pcib7}" looks like changes in the way IRQ's are handled since that change. Fortunately I have got a disc image of when it worked
15:53:07 <MrMobodies> but I got to bed
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16:58:48 <Ysjoelfir> hi
17:08:13 <steve30> hi
17:16:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: EEVblog #1284 – How Bad Product Design Kills The Environment https://t.co/viWnqXcfds
17:27:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Kim Dotcom: Must read: ‘Intel coup of the century’: CIA & BND used Swiss encryption firm to spy on dozens of nations for decades. These days the US govt sends a so called ‘national security letter’ to US tech companies and legally forces them to install backdoors. https://t.co/1T264RWIV5
17:28:58 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Naomi Wu 机械妖姬: My friend CTT came up with a very interesting design for proximity sensing, no-contact elevator buttons- that still provide the satisfying visual movement of being pressed. https://t.co/fpUEs4mLQ8
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19:46:53 <Lord_of_nothing|43> re
19:47:13 <steve30> o/
19:50:43 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Lord_of_everything and steve1985
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20:28:46 <Lemon> hello bois
20:30:11 <steve30> o/
20:30:49 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Pommelo
20:31:19 <Lemon> whats crackin ?
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20:31:43 <K> hello
20:31:43 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
20:33:11 <Ysjoelfir> don't know Pomelo
20:33:20 <Ysjoelfir> Hi K, you damn EEVBlog triggerer :D
20:33:26 <K> bhh
20:33:42 <K> must be my sunny disposition
20:34:12 <Ysjoelfir> that'll be it!
20:37:10 <steve30> I have to go out, back later
20:37:48 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
21:35:26 <Lord_of_nothing|43> re
21:35:36 <Lord_of_nothing|43> Who elese is from europe?
21:36:29 <Ysjoelfir> \o
21:42:18 <Lemon> I wonder about the other ouputs of my waveform gen
21:42:34 <Lemon> theres a 'TTL' and 'in out VCF'
22:09:20 <Ysjoelfir> TTL is TTL
22:09:25 <Ysjoelfir> VCF... no idea
22:09:30 <Lemon> and what is ttl ? :>
22:09:44 <Ysjoelfir> Transistor-Transistor-Logic
22:10:05 <Lemon> hmmm ok, and what can I use it for ? do you have an example in mind ?
22:10:36 <Ysjoelfir> sure. just shove the signal into a TTL circuit and you can use it without thinking about parameters
22:11:18 <Lemon> hmm thats a bit too much for me I think, I havent learn enough on that area
22:11:24 <Lemon> but thanks ! thats interesting :>
22:11:28 <Ysjoelfir> huh?
22:11:29 <Lemon> it got a sweep function too
22:11:41 <Ysjoelfir> TTL is just your basic 74xx family
22:11:52 <Ysjoelfir> bog standard 5V logic ICs
22:11:55 <Lemon> yeah but as I said I have not played with those yet :>
22:12:03 <Lemon> im really beginning in electronics :P
22:12:20 <Lemon> I do have tons of those IC's to learn ! which is nice
22:12:37 <Ysjoelfir> nah, thats ok. as long as you understood that this enables you to get an output signal that is directly compatible with the voltage levels needed by TTL
22:12:44 <Lemon> the only IC's I played with was a few uC for basic things with a programmer, and a 556 (double 555)
22:13:18 <Lemon> yeah I understood it but I don't visualize it, I need to learn from the bare basics
22:13:28 <Ysjoelfir> ok
22:13:55 <Lemon> I think that mastering basic passive components is really important, and makes everything easier to understand after
22:15:12 <Ysjoelfir> yep
22:15:32 <Lemon> I regret taking drugs sometimes, because I can feel how slower I got
22:15:49 <Ysjoelfir> Good that I never touched that stuff
22:15:53 <Lemon> its been three years I havent took any but still
22:16:23 <Ysjoelfir> I assume the results you got from it will last a long time
22:16:48 <Lemon> nah I just need to work on my memory and quick understanding of things, it will come back
22:16:58 <Lemon> theres not a lot of damages but I can feel it
22:19:05 <Lemon> ho I do have another question btw
22:19:42 <Lemon> on my tek ths710a, the square wave gen clip, when I put the probe on it (like on the 2245a) it generate a distorted square wave that moves a lot on the screen
22:19:48 <Lemon> I dont know why
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22:21:22 <Ysjoelfir> check the output with another scope and correctly compensated probe. if it's also distorted I would assume that the output is toast
22:21:55 <Lemon> but you know on those ouputs, you dont have to ground it right ?
22:22:10 <Lemon> on my 2245 I dont have anywhere to ground it
22:22:16 <Lemon> I guess its already grounded
22:22:25 <Lemon> but on the ths it might be the problem
22:22:43 <Lemon> I gotta eeat, I catch you in 15 minutes ! thanks for the hlep :>
22:26:07 <Ysjoelfir> I would ground it if I can, but my scopes usually don't have a gnd clip IIRC... either way, the GNDs should be connected internally
22:42:10 <Ysjoelfir> How cool is that thing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00_pbkyN2cc
22:51:19 <Lemon> back
22:51:36 <Lemon> yeah the 2245 is grounded internally I think, but not the ths as its a handheld scope
22:51:47 <Lemon> my father got it when he left work :>
22:52:26 <Lemon> its the 60mhz model, theres a 100 and 200mhz, the 60 still sells for 4-500 euros on ebay ! 1200+ for the 200
22:52:36 <Lemon> 200mhz 1gs/s handheld is pretty solid, and its a dmm too
22:53:36 <Lemon> haha neat video ! its quite weird I admit it
22:53:56 <Lemon> a nice idea
22:59:11 <Lemon> ho also Ysjoelfir, if you have the time, could you make a quick list of what you want to sell ? :>
23:00:50 <Ysjoelfir> when I have the time I can send it to you
23:00:57 <Lemon> :D thanks !
23:01:07 <Lemon> where do you live again ?
23:01:09 <Lemon> I keep forgetting
23:02:01 <Ysjoelfir> germania
23:02:22 <Lemon> ho neat, in which part ? im in france-comte, maybe you are not that far
23:02:28 <Lemon> franche
23:03:56 <Ysjoelfir> Mainhattan
23:04:21 <Lemon> 5h30 by car, heh
23:04:27 <Lemon> a tad far :>
23:04:41 <Lemon> you are at approx 1 hour of Essen right ?
23:05:43 <Ysjoelfir> make that 2 and a half
23:05:53 <Lemon> hmmmm ok
23:06:06 <Lemon> well, its nap timeeee
23:06:19 <Lemon> I'll see you after my hibernation !
23:06:32 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to nap, too :(
23:06:42 <Lemon> I'll nap for you !
23:06:53 <Ysjoelfir> thanks, I appreciate that
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23:33:27 <rust_collector> arff, morning
23:45:04 <Ysjoelfir> hi
23:46:18 <rust_collector> what a great weekend! I just got out of bed, and I am installing coffee right now
23:46:38 <rust_collector> I should be functional in a cup or two
23:56:37 <Ysjoelfir> I'm soon done with work :)
23:57:10 <rust_collector> I think my work will be here in about an hour
23:58:11 <rust_collector> the wife was nagging about a weird sound in her car. turns out the fan belt is falling apart, so. not a huge job, but...
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