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00:37:52 <Mekkis> in other news, my credit card arrived
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08:44:32 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 9th 11am (MincedSushi, first steps) / Sun 10th 1pm (Avatar, tier 5-9) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
08:44:32 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Jun 6 22:41:05 2012
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09:35:53 <Mort-> Hi mincedsushi
09:36:11 * Mort- prances around mincedsushi
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09:57:44 <MincedSushi> xD
09:58:05 <MincedSushi> Hey Mort
09:58:13 <MincedSushi> How went the sale?
09:58:37 <Mort-> Next week nub
09:58:44 <Mort-> Not this week
09:59:21 * Mort- jumps onto mincedsushis shoulder
10:00:11 <MincedSushi> Ack~
10:00:18 <MincedSushi> Help help I need an adult!
10:00:23 <Mort-> Why?
10:00:36 <Mort-> Its a lemur on your shoulder
10:01:26 <Mort-> Oh i did my alignment test. I'm lawful neutral.
10:01:28 <Mort-> Lol
10:01:29 <MincedSushi> That's what they all say xD
10:01:38 <MincedSushi> THose thigns are always glitched with me
10:01:40 * Mort- hops off :(
10:01:46 <MincedSushi> it's either chaotic good or lawful evil
10:01:53 <Mort-> Lol
10:01:59 <Mort-> I'm ln
10:02:13 <Mort-> Both times i took the test results were the same
10:02:21 <Avatar> zzz
10:02:48 <Mort-> I personally thought i would be ng
10:03:07 <Mort-> But i suppose we are always disillusioned by ourselves
10:07:16 <MincedSushi> -xD
10:07:26 <MincedSushi> I suppose so.
10:07:49 <Mort-> But I'm not a great believer of charity
10:07:54 <MincedSushi> Seeing as you like Qadira so much I would actually be more surprised to hear you were any good :P
10:08:08 <Mort-> And have a good sense of self preservation
10:08:13 <Mort-> Lol?
10:08:15 <Hydrazine> Shes lawful good, Sushi.
10:08:19 <Hydrazine> Have to be to be a PALADIN.
10:08:24 <Mort-> Qadira faction missions are fun
10:08:31 <Mort-> Nope sir.
10:08:49 <Mort-> I did my alignment test and I'm lawful neutral sir
10:09:17 <MincedSushi> Qadira were merchants weren't they?
10:09:23 <Mort-> Yeah
10:09:32 <Hydrazine> Sushi's got next game huh?
10:09:35 <MincedSushi> YEs
10:09:36 <Mort-> They are fond of 1000 year old agreements
10:09:39 <MincedSushi> her ein 500minutes
10:09:43 <MincedSushi> everything is all set up
10:09:50 <MincedSushi> 50Minutes*
10:09:53 <Mort-> That are beneficial to themselves
10:09:56 <Mort-> :d
10:10:10 <Mort-> I told mek about it caveat empreor
10:10:26 <Mort-> If they signed on it they should keep their word :d
10:10:35 <MincedSushi> lol
10:10:43 <Mort-> But yeah I'm glad i didn't show up lg on the test
10:10:55 <Mort-> Id get more bad pally jokes
10:11:01 <MincedSushi> Except they are the onese keeping thier word it's their ancestors who could not possibly have forseent he way the future will turn
10:11:19 <MincedSushi> aren't*
10:11:28 <Mort-> The point is they would word the agreements to their benefit
10:11:49 <Mort-> At least for that time they could forsee
10:12:02 <Hydrazine> For another example of how bad of an idea 1000+ year old agreements are, check some of the more dramatic segments of the bible.
10:12:09 <MincedSushi> ^
10:12:18 <Mort-> If it was not their benefit they would try to wiggle out
10:12:20 <Mort-> Lawfully
10:12:23 <Hydrazine> If a woman gets raped and refuses to marry her rapist.. stone her to death!
10:12:29 <Mort-> That's why i like them :d
10:12:45 <MincedSushi> An agreement should not be allowed to last past the party signing it unless specifically stated
10:12:56 <Mort-> I am not one about fairness when i wear my qadiran boots
10:13:04 <MincedSushi> lol
10:13:10 <Hydrazine> I may be in tonight, Sushipants.
10:13:19 <MincedSushi> Yay~
10:13:22 <Mort-> Its all about rp guys!
10:13:22 <Hydrazine> I think Lyta can still run 3. Or even Nearis.
10:13:24 <MincedSushi> ^^
10:13:30 <Hydrazine> Hes been mothballed for a while now.
10:13:42 <MincedSushi> TOnights game looks a bit boring. I hope it goes by quickly
10:13:54 <Mort-> The moment i run a qadiran
10:14:01 <Hydrazine> I think its because of how many scenarios I feel like the combat is really the deciding factor for whether or not a party will succeed.
10:14:04 <Mort-> I get different boots
10:14:06 <Hydrazine> And thats not his strong point.
10:14:19 <Mort-> Yeah that's pfs for you
10:14:31 <Mort-> But home games give you a chance to fk yourself up too
10:14:33 <Hydrazine> And then people look at you funny for rolling a str 20 fighter.
10:14:52 <Hydrazine> Eh. I think I disagree. With home games it depends entirely on the DM.
10:14:57 <Mort-> Like chasing the wrong orcs :d
10:15:04 <Mort-> We ran really fast that day
10:15:05 <Hydrazine> Or the wrong space bandits.
10:15:13 <Mort-> 3 orcs?
10:15:20 <Mort-> Can't bottle neck them?
10:15:23 <Mort-> Runs!
10:15:48 <Mort-> Especially once one splatted our doodads dinosaur
10:16:15 <Mort-> But yeah pfs can't talk your way out of things much
10:16:38 <Mort-> But ya i love qadiran faction missions
10:16:50 <Hydrazine> my thoughts for Nearis was that he may be worthwhile enough to bring along.
10:16:53 <Mort-> More realistic. Not so filled with fluff and air
10:17:04 <Hydrazine> Then I got to experience some PFS, and it gave me doubts.
10:17:05 <Mort-> Andoran is generally lots of diplomacy
10:17:23 <Mort-> Ill flank for you as always hydra
10:17:37 <Mort-> Btw there is a way around ranged concealment
10:17:55 <Mort-> Use obscuring mist
10:18:13 <Mort-> Take 1 level of oracale of mists and take water sight for relevation
10:18:16 <Mort-> Snipe away
10:18:27 <Hydrazine> Flank for me? But Nearis doesn't melee unless he has to.
10:18:32 <Mort-> Yeah
10:18:41 <Mort-> But if you want range concealment
10:18:48 <Mort-> That's one way to do it
10:19:28 <Mort-> The other alternative would be fogcutter lenses that would cost loads
10:19:58 <Mort-> Anyway I'm ranger for today
10:20:48 <Mort-> In my home game i think i want to work on sap adept and sap master line
10:21:20 <Mort-> And be the first addition type of rogue who runs in with a 2 handed weapon doing power attack :p
10:21:52 <Mort-> May not take sap master. Too hard to give flat footed status. Deny dex is easy
10:22:17 <Mort-> Should have taken scout if i wanted to use sap master
10:22:18 <Hydrazine> What precisely is the difference?
10:22:33 <Mort-> Sap master doubles your sneak attack dice
10:22:42 <Mort-> Only when opponent is flat footed
10:22:58 <Hydrazine> I meant between flat footed and denied dex.
10:23:11 <Mort-> The wording of the feat
10:23:17 <Mort-> That's the difference
10:23:31 <Mort-> Sap master activates only when opponent is flat footed
10:23:36 <Mort-> And its more powerful
10:23:42 <Mort-> Its restricted because of that
10:24:09 <Mort-> Sap master means if you have a 3d6 sneak attack it becomes 6d6
10:25:01 <Mort-> Sap adept means if you roll a 3d6 sneak attack dice you get
10:25:22 <Mort-> 3d6+6 for your sneak attack instead
10:25:46 <Hydrazine> 5E, sneak attack goes up every level.
10:25:57 <Mort-> So if both feats in conjunction your first attack would get 6d6+12
10:25:59 <Hydrazine> The power curve is notably different.
10:26:16 <Mort-> For sneak attack damagmd
10:26:49 <Mort-> I'm on a side project trying to work out on xyn the theory of the polymorphed rogue
10:27:07 <Mort-> Assuming you mixed syn and rogue and pounce
10:27:47 <Mort-> Would your charge and full natural attacks - if you beat him on initiative. Be enough to flat out kill one opponent ?
10:29:13 <Hydrazine> Possibly.
10:29:37 <Mort-> But each level i take off syn does a lot to my survival
10:29:42 <Mort-> Rate
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10:30:50 <mortswishytail> So yeah
10:31:00 <mortswishytail> I'm not too sure if its a good idea or not
10:31:21 <mortswishytail> I know syn/pallies are moving tanks
10:31:33 <mortswishytail> And close to indestructable
10:31:40 <mortswishytail> But i wanted to try something different
10:31:56 <mortswishytail> And no. I'm not trying to cheese
10:32:35 <MincedSushi> >>
10:32:43 <MincedSushi> Stupid work calls
10:32:46 <MincedSushi> brb food times
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10:34:52 <Mort-> The good news is I'm not as fragile as a normal rogue and i have a baby sneak attack atm
10:35:31 <Mort-> 1d6+3 and 2d4+6 max on full attack round
10:35:46 <Hydrazine> Not bad
10:35:47 <Mort-> At level 3. With a +4 to hit
10:35:51 <Mort-> Waow
10:35:58 <Mort-> If i hit all
10:36:01 <Hydrazine> 3 attacks a round at 3?
10:36:02 <Mort-> Which is not likely
10:36:03 <Hydrazine> So not fair.
10:36:05 <Hydrazine> Syns are OP
10:36:28 <Mort-> Please. One good solid hit with jerus and you do more then that
10:36:29 <Mort-> Lol
10:36:50 <Hydrazine> Jerus is 5.
10:36:58 <Mort-> Besides with my +4 i hit 1 in 3 :d
10:37:05 <Mort-> Its an epic joke
10:37:26 <Mort-> Grull has +4 to hit with 2 attacks at level 1
10:37:30 <Mort-> ^^
10:40:28 <Hydrazine> Thats because Grull is designed brilliantly.
10:40:35 <Mort-> Xyn is good at chasing people down though .
10:40:36 <Hydrazine> Too bad I cant make supermonk work at low levels.
10:40:42 <Mort-> 40 move speed ftw
10:41:24 <Mort-> I just got myself a master work double ax
10:41:24 <Mort-> And a breastplate
10:43:32 <Mort-> I need to get grull and kalara's weapons magiced
10:43:51 <Mort-> Xyn is running around without caring too much about gear
10:44:11 <Mort-> Well except a whole bunch of cold iron and silver weapons
10:44:33 <Mort-> The joke will be on me if i get jumped by a shadow some fan
10:44:33 <Mort-> Day
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10:45:55 <Mort-> Hi hydra
10:46:02 <Mort-> Was just talking about damage reduction
10:46:32 <N2H4> Oh?
10:46:48 <N2H4> What, are they ethereal?
10:46:59 <Mort-> Incorpreal
10:47:07 <Mort-> I can't hurt those things you know
10:47:17 <Mort-> No magic weapon.
10:47:42 <N2H4> supermonk could do it.
10:47:49 <Mort-> Probably at low levels only person who can is kalara
10:48:01 <N2H4> Jerus can't even deal with one now
10:48:17 <Mort-> Incorpreal? Arcane pool enchant. Magic weapon for 10 rounds. Eat that :p
10:48:22 <Mort-> Relax
10:48:38 <Mort-> There is something called oil of bless weapon
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10:48:51 <Mort-> Or in my case toothpaste of bless weapon
10:48:54 <Mort-> ^^
10:49:08 <Mort-> Something i made sure xyn packed
10:50:27 <N2H4> theres a toothpaste for that?
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10:52:24 <Mort-> Technically i will apply it on my bite
10:52:35 <Mort-> The wording of the spell said weapon touched
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10:53:04 <Mort-> So uh i applied it on my bite so its toothpaste?
10:54:16 <Mort-> Yeah toothpaste it is
10:54:20 <N2H4> lol
10:54:43 <Mort-> Get what i mean by i think differently?
10:54:47 <Mort-> I'm a weasel.
10:54:52 <MincedSushi> OKat then~
10:55:10 <MincedSushi> I'm just about ready
10:55:17 <Mort-> Maptools server dude
10:55:27 <Mort-> I wont talk again today
10:56:03 <MincedSushi> 99.83.4.19 : 4000
10:56:13 <Mort-> Actually if i really get pushed to the wall
10:56:26 <N2H4> Who ya got today, Sushipants?
10:56:26 <Mort-> Its lesser evolution surge magic weapon
10:56:43 <MincedSushi> Avatar, Saint, Eric, Mort
10:58:16 <Avatar> lez do it
10:58:50 <MincedSushi> skype?
10:59:27 <MincedSushi> Mort hop on skype even ifjust to listen
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11:02:21 <Mort-> Ok
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11:58:01 <Brunius> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/525157_415199968501020_428865253_n.jpg
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13:54:05 <Avatar> Brunius: ping chanop
14:05:03 <Brunius> 0.282 seconds?
14:05:48 <Brunius> Alright, it's changed in my autoperforms
14:06:35 <Avatar> you had that in autoperform?
14:06:45 <Avatar> why
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14:14:41 <Avatar> <?blinded
14:14:42 <diebot> The creature cannot see. It takes a 2 penalty to Armor Class, loses its Dexterity bonus to AC (if any), and takes a 4 penalty on most Strength- and Dexterity-based skill checks and on opposed Perception skill checks. All checks and activities that rely on vision (such as reading and Perception checks based on sight)
14:14:42 <diebot> automatically fail. All opponents are considered to have total concealment (50% miss chance) against the blinded character. Blind creatures must make a DC 10 Acrobatics skill check to move faster than half speed. Creatures that fail this check fall prone. Characters who remain blinded for a long time grow accustomed to
14:14:42 <diebot> these drawbacks and can overcome some of them.
14:20:46 <Brunius> Sometimes it would connect, then immediately disconnect
14:20:49 <Brunius> But not tell me
14:27:05 <Avatar> !roll 1d20+7 day job
14:27:05 <dicebot> Avatar, day job: [1d20=11] 18
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14:33:25 <Mort-> Wow grull is some fun dps now
14:33:54 <Mort-> !throw 2#1d8+4
14:33:55 <diebot> Mort-, 2#1d8+4: [1d8=4] 8, [1d8=4] 8
14:44:42 <Mort-> Wonder what sort of animal companion i should get
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15:17:46 <Brunius> A good one
15:17:51 <Brunius> Which character?
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15:38:00 <mortswishytail> My ranger
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15:38:40 <mortswishytail> Bru its my ranger
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15:41:04 <Mort-> Oh
15:41:06 <Mort-> Again
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15:47:18 <N2H4> grull's at 2 now?
15:47:20 <N2H4> how did it go?
15:51:00 <mortswishytail> Just got bit but nothing too serious
15:51:38 <mortswishytail> Bout 6 hp or so down
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15:52:19 <Mort-> I had to eat uncooked or charred bacon for a week :(
15:52:25 <Mort-> Sorry
15:52:33 <Mort-> Venison
15:52:52 <Mort-> Grull shall pick up profession cook!
15:53:39 <Mort-> And yeah i get
15:53:40 <Mort-> To
15:54:00 <Mort-> !roll 2#1d20+5 to hit
15:54:00 <dicebot> Mort-, to hit: [1d20=2] 7, [1d20=10] 15
15:54:14 <Mort-> If both did hit it would be
15:54:35 <Mort-> !roll 2#1d8+4 damage
15:54:36 <dicebot> Mort-, damage: [1d8=4] 8, [1d8=8] 12
15:55:17 <Mort-> Hydra. I'm thinking i need boon companion. Power attack. Then weapon focus?
15:55:25 <N2H4> hmm?
15:55:39 <Mort-> I will get an animal companion
15:55:49 <N2H4> part of the advantages of the double weapon style is in weapon specific feats.
15:55:49 <Mort-> Probably a cheetah
15:55:54 <Mort-> Big cat
15:55:59 <N2H4> like imp. crit and weapon focus.
15:56:08 <Mort-> But if i don't take boon companion ill be screwed
15:56:29 <Mort-> At least it means ill have to fight without my animal companion
15:56:47 <Mort-> Level 3 combat feat will be power attack
15:57:03 <Mort-> 5 ill take boon companion
15:59:59 <N2H4> why?
16:00:39 <Mort-> Else it means i can leave my animal companion at home :d
16:00:41 <Mort-> He can't contribute
16:00:48 <N2H4> Why not?
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16:01:29 <Mort-> If i get my animal companion out there
16:01:36 <Mort-> He is extra damage :d
16:01:45 <Mort-> And probably a flanking buddy as well
16:02:14 <Mort-> But since your animal companion is your ranger level -3 you'll just get him killed
16:14:09 <Mort-> Yep probably a cheetah
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16:26:59 <Steven> theres a feat that increases the level of your cheetah
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16:43:07 <MekkisScreen> boon compaion from seeker of secrets
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17:57:46 <Mort-> I know
17:58:01 <Mort-> Planning for it
17:59:38 <Mort-> Ok now how do you use your animal companion
17:59:58 <Mort-> Like make him wear armor
18:00:23 <Mort-> I know mean people will try to kill him
18:01:12 <Mort-> And mek. I won't get a roc
18:01:41 <Mort-> Probably will get a cheetah or a cat of some sort
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19:35:24 <Brunius> Get a roc Mort-
19:35:39 <Brunius> It'll annoy avatar
19:35:53 <Brunius> I never see Ballig around anymore?
19:35:58 <Brunius> Is there a reason for that?
19:38:05 <Ballig> what do you mean around
19:38:15 <Brunius> I don't see you talking
19:40:21 <Mort-> Nah
19:40:30 <Mort-> I think probably cheetah
19:40:42 <Mort-> I rather get trip
19:40:57 <Mort-> And i wont be riding my roc anyway
19:41:16 <Mort-> My style is two weapon fighting style
19:41:23 <Mort-> Unsuited for charging
19:41:34 <Mort-> If i wanted to charge its a small race
19:41:54 <Mort-> And rhino hide armor. Maybe on a rhino
19:42:17 <Mort-> Then see who can charge better - companion or me : s
19:42:20 <Mort-> :p
19:43:04 <Mort-> Just for kicks
19:45:38 <Mort-> Actually one of the best chargers may not even be a class with animal companion
19:45:53 <Mort-> But its a very high level combination and very glass canon
19:46:04 <Mort-> Rather
19:46:09 <Mort-> Or feat intensive.
19:48:16 <Mort-> On home game I'm considering sap adept and mastery line
19:48:53 <Brunius> Oh hey, booster boxes for $112
19:49:52 <Mort-> The fun combo is when you use scout. Charge. And trigger both sap adept and mastery at same time for insane sneak attack damage
19:50:35 <Mort-> with blugeoneer you can use even a reach weapon to do it
19:50:54 <Mort-> But its a tail for another time
19:51:15 <Mort-> Possibly one shot monsters if you land
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20:01:23 <Mekkis> Brunius, where?!
20:01:39 <Brunius> Maelstrom Games
20:01:46 <Brunius> use the voucher SMALL-WORLD
20:01:52 <Brunius> It's for the next couple of days
20:01:55 <Brunius> Free shipping
20:06:30 <Brunius> Looks like they've only got innistrad block and M12 boxes
20:07:29 <Mekkis> hmmm
20:07:56 <Mekkis> you sure it's $112?
20:09:01 <Brunius>
20:09:03 <Brunius> 71.992
20:09:06 <Brunius> what
20:09:53 <Brunius> 89.99 GBP normally. 20% off voucher (valid until the 19th at 10am) brings it to 71.992 GBP.
20:10:00 <Mekkis> no
20:10:02 <Brunius> 71.992 GBP = 112.38 AUD
20:10:28 <Mekkis> 129.99 normally, reduced to 89.99. Voucher instead reduces it to 103
20:10:40 <Mekkis> so using the voucher is a bad idea
20:11:26 <Brunius> http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=pro&pre=wtc_ccg_mtg_isd_101_000&cur=gbp
20:11:32 <Brunius> This is what you're looking at, right?
20:11:41 <Mekkis> Brunius, try adding it to your card
20:11:42 <Mekkis> cart
20:11:47 <Mekkis> hit checkout
20:11:53 <Mekkis> enter the voucher code
20:11:56 <Mekkis> it will cost 103
20:11:59 <Mekkis> not 71
20:12:25 <Brunius> Hmm
20:12:32 <Brunius> Why are they doing that, I wonder?
20:12:42 <Mekkis> because it's a 20% discount off RRP
20:12:50 <Brunius> Ah
20:12:52 <Mekkis> not a 20% discount off Maelstrom proice
20:12:55 <Mekkis> price*
20:12:59 <Brunius> Well, just ignore me then
20:13:03 <Brunius> (Business as usual)
20:13:16 <Mekkis> no
20:13:24 <Mekkis> you say too much interesting stuff to /ignore
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20:18:25 <Mekkis> unfortunately, poking a Cat 5 cable through a black hole always seems to violate the minimum bend radius.
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21:03:55 <Brunius> ha
21:20:01 <Mort-> Urk
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23:03:43 <Brunius> http://www.extremetech.com/internet/130627-the-pirate-bay-evades-isp-blockade-with-ipv6-can-do-it-18-septillion-more-times
23:03:48 <Brunius> Good old TPB
23:04:47 <Mekkis> TBP's been on IPv6 for years
23:07:25 <Brunius> Good for them
23:08:21 <Mekkis> and wow
23:08:28 <Mekkis> that site is SO misinformed, it's not funny
23:08:33 <Mekkis> did you read the comments?
23:11:38 <Brunius> I never read comments. It's usually trolls on the internet.
23:11:59 <Mekkis> the ones on that article are better informed than the actual authors
23:14:05 <Brunius> ha
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