// #d&d — 2012-06-28
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00:01:14 <Mekkis> if they're discussing, make them make stealth checks
00:01:33 <Steven> i do]
00:02:08 <Steven> after the first time of me ruining a counter ambush they started just auto going into stealth and backing away fromt he door
00:02:14 <Mekkis> with massive negatives?
00:02:19 <Steven> YUP
00:02:26 <Mekkis> and they still succeeded?
00:02:43 <Steven> most of the time they are very lucky
00:03:13 <Steven> because theres a door between them and the enemy its sound based perception for the enemy
00:03:24 <Mekkis> I'm not sure if nerfing the spell is the best solution
00:03:34 <Steven> I dont nerf the spell
00:03:50 <Steven> i just make it harder for him to break encounters
00:04:23 <Steven> i got him to burn a detect thoughts on a closet door
00:05:37 <Steven> and ide agree im being kinda dickish, but running around with detect thoughts on whenever possible isnt making the game fun
00:06:02 <Steven> at least not for me and i know my friend andrew doesnt like it much either
00:06:31 <Steven> but hes not gonig to ruin a set up ambush in their favor ya know
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00:15:04 <Mekkis> on an unrelated note, this new mouse is great
00:15:22 <Mekkis> it's getting harder and harder to find mice with these important features nowadays
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00:15:35 <OsterGuard> hey guys
00:15:41 <OsterGuard> D:
00:15:46 <OsterGuard> Mort's not here
00:15:57 <OsterGuard> And I'm in singapore
00:16:00 <OsterGuard> THE HORROR
00:16:18 * Mekkis puts 2 and 2 together
00:16:25 <Mekkis> WHAT DID YOU DO TO MORT?!
00:16:32 <OsterGuard> hahahahahah
00:16:32 <Mekkis> did you make Lemur pie?
00:16:33 <OsterGuard> She
00:16:35 <OsterGuard> Is
00:16:38 <OsterGuard> In
00:16:38 <OsterGuard> A
00:16:42 <Mekkis> CRATE!
00:16:43 <OsterGuard> Pi-house
00:16:44 <OsterGuard> Yes
00:16:47 <OsterGuard> A house
00:16:48 <Steven> oh dip
00:16:54 <OsterGuard> That's right
00:16:58 <OsterGuard> D:
00:17:05 <OsterGuard> Stupid airport computer
00:17:15 <OsterGuard> You can't tell me I have 3 minutes left
00:17:18 <Mekkis> where are you going?
00:17:18 <OsterGuard> FUCK YOU
00:17:22 <OsterGuard> :'(
00:17:28 <OsterGuard> Copenhagen
00:17:31 <OsterGuard> Then Rome
00:17:32 <Mekkis> cool
00:17:35 <OsterGuard> Then Zurich
00:17:38 <OsterGuard> Berlin
00:17:41 <OsterGuard> And Barcelona
00:17:42 <OsterGuard> :D
00:18:20 <OsterGuard> Tell mort Where I am
00:18:21 <OsterGuard> :P
00:18:30 <Mekkis> you should
00:18:34 <OsterGuard> Good god mibbit is horrible
00:18:36 <OsterGuard> Yeah
00:18:37 <Mekkis> since you've crated her up
00:18:47 <OsterGuard> But I'll be on a flight for ~18 hours
00:18:57 <OsterGuard> And she's in the luggage
00:18:59 <Steven> you have my sympathies oster
00:19:02 <Mekkis> that's the only problem with going to Europe
00:19:04 <OsterGuard> haha
00:19:09 <OsterGuard> Thanks Steven
00:19:11 <Mekkis> long flights
00:19:18 <OsterGuard> 1 minute left D:
00:19:22 <OsterGuard> 59
00:19:25 <OsterGuard> 55
00:19:30 <OsterGuard> 50
00:19:47 <Mekkis> we're not THAT interested in your countdown
00:19:54 <OsterGuard> dickhead
00:20:00 <OsterGuard> It's not the computer
00:20:07 <OsterGuard> It's the bomb ibn mort's crate
00:20:10 <OsterGuard> 10
00:20:15 <OsterGuard> 5
00:20:17 <OsterGuard> 4
00:20:18 <OsterGuard> 3
00:20:18 <OsterGuard> 2
00:20:19 <OsterGuard> 1
00:20:20 <OsterGuard> 0
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00:21:38 <Mekkis> yet he had time to send a QUIT to the server
00:21:42 <Mekkis> what a BSer
00:24:19 <Mekkis> more to the point, I seem to have lost my Hellkite Charger
00:25:29 <Steven> um...... oh no?
00:26:22 <Steven> want to borrow one of mine? lol
00:26:31 <Mekkis> yes
00:26:43 <Mekkis> I did find eight Sheoldreds
00:27:21 <Steven> why you need a hellkite anyways?
00:27:39 <Mekkis> for my turing machine
00:30:05 <Steven> elaboration?
00:31:21 <Mekkis> it is possible to make a universal turing machine out of a certain Magic gamestate
00:31:38 <Mekkis> it requires about 90 cards, in a three-player game
00:32:21 <Steven> oh gotcha the computer thing
00:32:43 <Steven> they were talking about something like that last week at the shop
00:33:06 <Mekkis> I'm trying to build it
00:33:31 <Steven> so are they...
00:33:44 <Steven> do you frequently talk to somebody in pullman area that works for SEL?
00:33:46 <Steven> lol
00:33:49 <Mekkis> no
00:34:55 <Steven> okay well thats just weird then
00:36:22 <Mekkis> how does Ausk have a flat-footed touch AC of >17?
00:37:39 <Steven> i had buffs
00:38:06 <Mekkis> like?
00:38:13 <Steven> judgement
00:38:23 <Mekkis> sacred bonus?
00:38:29 <Steven> yup
00:41:12 <Mekkis> how large?
00:41:47 <Steven> 4
00:42:16 <Mekkis> where's the rest of it?
00:42:24 <Steven> a force shield
00:42:34 <Mekkis> that's a shield bonus
00:42:38 <Mekkis> so doesn't count
00:43:12 <Steven> yup it does
00:43:44 <Mekkis> When you are the target of a touch attack, your AC doesn't include any armor bonus, shield bonus, or natural armor bonus.
00:44:30 <Steven> it acts as a wall of force
00:45:10 <Steven> so normally no a shield bonus wouldnt be counted it, but vs spells it still applies
00:45:33 <Mekkis> ring of force shield?
00:45:55 <Steven> yup just a +2 bonus
00:46:11 <Mekkis> where does it say that it counts against spells?
00:46:36 <Steven> look up wall of force
00:47:25 <Mekkis> nowhere does it say that it provides AC bonus against touch attacks
00:47:40 <Steven> Breath weapons and spells cannot pass through a wall of force in either direction
00:49:15 <Mekkis> so it doesn't say it anywhere...
00:51:00 <Steven> Not explicitly, but thats how everyone down at the shop runs it.
00:53:02 <Mekkis> seems like it makes the ring better than it should be
00:53:20 <Steven> yeah, its the only reason ausk picked one up
00:53:51 <Steven> waste of cash really, but every bit of AC vs touch is worth it imo
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00:56:32 <Steven> man, im freakin tired alredy
00:58:47 <Mekkis> what else?
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00:58:59 <Mekkis> some deflection bonus, I guess
00:59:08 <OsterGuard> Back now
00:59:15 <OsterGuard> Mort went boom
00:59:24 <OsterGuard> Tail and all
00:59:33 <Mekkis> OsterGuard, you shouldn't go killing off players!
00:59:44 <OsterGuard> Sorry :(
00:59:52 * OsterGuard stares at feet
00:59:57 <Mekkis> unless their name is Spaceshot
01:00:02 * OsterGuard fidgets
01:00:25 <OsterGuard> Haha
01:00:46 <OsterGuard> So
01:00:53 <OsterGuard> Sup?
01:01:18 <Steven> we determined beyond a shadow of a doubt that mort does not have a tail.
01:01:20 <Mekkis> I'm going to sleep now
01:02:09 <Steven> sleep well good sir!
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01:12:18 <OsterGuard> Haha
01:12:29 <OsterGuard> Mort has a tail
01:12:37 <OsterGuard> You speak blasphemy
01:12:58 <Steven> nope... we medically went through and proved it.
01:15:04 <OsterGuard> Lol
01:15:07 <OsterGuard> How?
01:16:54 <Steven> we played 20 questions
01:17:22 <Steven> i excluded every known way to have a tail
01:18:25 <OsterGuard> Mmkay
01:18:31 <OsterGuard> Blasphemy
01:18:48 <Steven> believe what you will, but the facts are mort does not have a tail
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03:04:31 <MincedSushi> :D
03:04:35 <MincedSushi> Hey people
03:05:45 <Steven> yo
03:05:46 <Tashes> hay sushi
03:05:48 <Tashes> you make me hungry
03:06:16 * [PFS]Boomer waves
03:06:25 <MincedSushi> I make me hungry too
03:06:35 <MincedSushi> Hey Steven! Been awhile
03:06:49 <MincedSushi> What have you been up to? Razing the villages again?
03:08:18 <Steven> yeah, its kind of my thing
03:08:22 <Steven> burn pillage
03:08:34 <Steven> rape... or as i like to say Surprise sex
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05:07:19 <[PFS]Boomer> I am not away, I'm sitting right here.
05:07:35 <[PFS]Boomer> Just because I don't type something constantly, doesn't automatically mean that I'm away.
05:10:51 <[PFS]Boomer> In fact, I may just at that moment make a big medical breakthrough, and cure cancer.
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05:33:33 <MincedSushi> xD
05:33:45 <MincedSushi> Please don't ><
05:33:53 <MincedSushi> Populations to big as is...
05:33:59 <[PFS]Boomer> You don't want me to cure cancer?
05:34:19 <[PFS]Boomer> MincedSushi: There's an easy way to fix that. Death penalty for parking violations.
05:34:27 <MincedSushi> Or any opther high death rate disease or cause :/
05:34:32 <MincedSushi> lol
05:34:38 <MincedSushi> I like it!
05:38:10 <MincedSushi> Work time for sushi :<
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06:55:15 <[PFS]Boomer> I'm still here, don't get any ideas in your head.
07:37:51 <S711> Game of Thrones
07:38:30 <S711> I was way past halfway into the first book when I started understanding what..
07:38:34 <[PFS]Boomer> Game of Thongs
07:39:02 <S711> And that's only because I watched a couple of episodes.
07:39:13 <S711> I think it was poor writing.
07:39:31 <[PFS]Boomer> George R. R. Martin poor writing?
07:39:33 <S711> Not because I didn't understand who was who, because of the dialogue.
07:39:38 <[PFS]Boomer> Or the writers of the TV show?
07:40:08 <S711> The book, the show.. I don't know. Better than the other crap shows on HBO I presume, I don't watch TV.
07:41:04 <[PFS]Boomer> Wow, not even PBS? Do you listen to NPR?
07:41:16 <S711> Don't get me wrong, the twists in the book are good, I like the spins, I even like the information that the characters are getting across to each other. What I find almost riddiculous is the way they say things.
07:41:21 <[PFS]Boomer> or you don't watch because you don't have the time?
07:41:33 <S711> I only watch things on my computer.
07:41:40 <S711> No time for TV, yea.
07:41:51 <[PFS]Boomer> Do you commute?
07:41:59 <S711> Not much.
07:42:06 <S711> Small town.
07:42:08 <[PFS]Boomer> I download TV shows and watch them on my daily commute.
07:44:21 <S711> I'll skim through the second book before watching series 2.
07:44:48 <S711> I'd compare Martin's writing to that Eragon boy.
07:45:28 <[PFS]Boomer> Never heard of it.
07:45:58 <S711> A teen who wrote a book about dragons and stuff, the first book is named Eragon, made a fortune.
08:13:18 <Avatar> phuck it's cold
08:23:45 <Mekkis> S711: what? a crappy book that jumped on a bandwagon?
08:25:01 <Avatar> [PFS]Boomer: I kind of miss downloading TV shows and watching them on my daily commute
08:25:14 <Avatar> there's something very satisfying about it
08:26:11 <[PFS]Boomer> I'm currently watching 'Person of Interest'
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08:38:46 <Avatar> sounds interesting
08:38:48 <Avatar> and personable
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09:02:49 <Avatar> ddo is available through steam now
09:05:06 <Mort-> Yeah I'm not playing though
09:05:22 <Avatar> neither am I
09:05:24 <Avatar> but it's good to know
09:05:27 <Mort-> Its a little hard if you're not paying for dungeons
09:05:40 <Avatar> you can have a good game of it without paying a cent
09:05:41 <Mort-> Considering not much content after 10
09:05:58 <Mort-> Well i was level 10 at one point of time. Or higher or so
09:06:01 <Mort-> Maybe even 14
09:06:05 <Mort-> I think 14
09:06:13 <Avatar> yeah my highest is 8 or 9
09:06:19 <Mort-> Ran through eyes of stone like no ones business
09:06:23 <Avatar> you can't say it's not fun
09:06:27 <Mort-> And yes. I was a cleric
09:06:39 <Mort-> Eh..later dungeon crawls are..
09:06:40 <Mort-> Fun.
09:07:09 <Mort-> Like what do you think I'm an acrobat running through that freakin maze?
09:07:24 <Mort-> And i hate the pit
09:07:53 <Mort-> Unless you have a good pit guide were all going to get lost
09:08:51 <Mort-> I spent an afternoon trying to figure it out myself but i fked up
09:09:13 <Mort-> You need to be very very precise about your jumping
09:09:19 <Mort-> Which i am not good with
09:09:34 <Mort-> Besides which full plate wearer jumps well heh
09:09:48 <Mort-> Had to strip stark naked in order to jump
09:15:10 <[PFS]Boomer> I can't get the updater to run through my firewall. No proxy configuration :(
09:15:36 <[PFS]Boomer> Wrong window
09:17:34 <Mort-> Hi boomer
09:21:24 <[PFS]Boomer> Howdy Mort, how goes the daily battle?
09:21:56 <Mort-> For my sanity? :d
09:22:04 <Mort-> Uh i think its going well.
09:23:26 <Mort-> Oh btw Google groups has lots of parties coming up
09:23:54 <[PFS]Boomer> I just saw this thing called Google+ events pop up.
09:24:34 <Mort-> Yeah
09:24:39 <Mort-> Tons of parties!
09:24:46 <Mort-> Woohoo
09:25:01 <Mort-> Sadly..I can't play because I'm werkin
09:25:07 <Mort-> Beggars pearl this sat
09:25:32 <Mort-> With immortal conundreum
09:25:42 <[PFS]Boomer> I'm flying w/ wife and son to Disneyland this weekend.
09:25:47 <Mort-> Or my sat
09:25:50 <Mort-> Aw have fun
09:25:52 <Mort-> Which one,
09:25:55 <Mort-> ?
09:26:24 <Mort-> Remember to hug rhino when you see him!
09:26:35 <[PFS]Boomer> Disneyland, there's only one.
09:26:55 <Mort-> There is Japan Disney land
09:27:03 <Mort-> I mean where it is
09:27:10 <[PFS]Boomer> Southern California :)
09:27:15 <Mort-> And a few other countries
09:27:23 <[PFS]Boomer> EuroDisney
09:27:24 <Mort-> Both days?
09:27:28 <Mort-> Ah
09:27:33 <[PFS]Boomer> Sat, Sun, Mon, Tues
09:27:35 <Mort-> I remember there were a few
09:27:37 <Mort-> Wow
09:27:46 <Mort-> Pack me in your luggage? :d
09:27:53 <[PFS]Boomer> We have season passes, so we go a few times a year.
09:28:01 <Mort-> Yes. Remember to hug rhino :d
09:28:03 <[PFS]Boomer> If my wife can find room for you :)
09:28:13 <Mort-> My cousin bought the ticket
09:28:25 * Mort- casts reduce person to become tiny
09:28:29 <[PFS]Boomer> You mean the little furry animal named Rhino? From Bolt?
09:28:35 <Mort-> Oh yes!
09:28:45 <Mort-> I have a soft spot for him
09:28:49 <[PFS]Boomer> He's hilarious
09:29:02 <Mort-> I was nearly named rhino instead of mort :p
09:29:03 <[PFS]Boomer> Such a great movie, and Disney did very little advertising.
09:29:19 <Mort-> Hammy from over the hedge too
09:29:44 <Mort-> I love pixar Disney collaborations
09:29:45 <Mort-> I am a cartoon fan
09:29:53 <Mort-> Up was a tad slow paced for me though
09:29:58 <Mort-> But i like the bird
09:30:00 <[PFS]Boomer> I'm addicted to Phineas & Ferb. My son loves Doc McStuffins.
09:30:05 <Mort-> Lol
09:30:12 <[PFS]Boomer> I want a stuffed Stuffy the Dragon.
09:30:30 <Mort-> I don't watch phineas and ferb
09:30:36 <Mort-> Ill Google stuffy
09:31:50 <MekkisScreen> Mort-: did you get exploded by Ostenguard?
09:31:58 <Mort-> No
09:32:06 <Mort-> Why would i?
09:32:14 <Mort-> We talked on skype
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09:33:31 <[PFS]Boomer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCMqD1Bjxlc
09:35:12 <Mort-> Can't watch
09:35:21 <Mort-> Can't see pics either
09:37:37 <[PFS]Boomer> :(
09:38:10 <Mort-> Cell :(
09:38:28 <Mort-> I like drafons
09:39:13 <[PFS]Boomer> http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP01532516/doc-mcstuffins-robbie-rist-1.jpg
09:39:18 <[PFS]Boomer> Does that show up?
09:39:46 <Mort-> Yeah
09:39:52 <Mort-> Colour is great but..
09:39:56 <Mort-> Where is tail :(
09:43:38 <[PFS]Boomer> http://www.wired.com/geekdad/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/125809_0127.jpg
09:49:56 <MekkisScreen> looks like I'll be running something this Sunday
09:49:57 <MekkisScreen> :S
09:51:10 <Mort-> Really?
09:51:12 <Mort-> Here?
09:51:19 * Mort- jumps up and down
09:56:34 * Mort- hugs stuffy
10:01:57 <[PFS]Boomer> He's very cute, and silly.
10:02:33 * Mort- purrs
10:10:22 <MekkisScreen> he blew you up last night
10:10:32 <MekkisScreen> after crating you at Changi Airport
10:10:45 <Mort-> No!
10:10:50 <Mort-> It never happened
10:10:58 <Mort-> He found me on skype
10:11:02 <Mort-> And we talked!
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10:23:02 <Mort-> Sushi
10:23:16 * Mort- pounces on a lazysushi
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10:36:11 <LazySushi> Mort!
10:36:33 * LazySushi rolls around with Mort
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10:37:29 <Mort-> Yay!
10:37:52 <MincedSushi> ^^
10:37:58 <MincedSushi> How be you?
10:38:09 * Mort- licks minced sushi
10:38:58 <Mort-> How's joo lately
10:49:49 * MekkisScreen had buffet sushi last night
10:58:07 <MekkisScreen> not here
10:58:14 <Mort-> Ok
10:58:19 <MekkisScreen> but if you can find four players
10:58:22 <MekkisScreen> of 5-9
10:58:27 * Mort- thinks mekkis is round
10:58:33 <MekkisScreen> I can be convinced to run Rebel's Ransom
10:58:37 <Mort-> Ok
10:59:30 <MekkisScreen> I'm trying to build some props for it
10:59:35 <Mort-> Ok
10:59:41 <Mort-> Hm
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12:13:28 <Eric> Hi guys... is Avatar around?
12:14:44 <Brunius> I can text him if he doesn't show up before about quarter to
12:15:05 <Mort-> Hi eric
12:15:19 * Mort- waves
12:15:30 <Brunius> What are you after? We might be able to help
12:17:05 <Eric> Just the chronicle sheet from last weekend. it was 4am and I couldn't stay awake long to get it at the time.
12:17:26 <Brunius> Ah, ok
12:21:23 <Mort-> We will fetch it for you :d
12:21:24 <Eric> I do F2F PFS most Thursdays locally, do you guys have sessions in person in your areas?
12:21:29 <Mort-> What's your mail!
12:21:45 <Mort-> Most of us are in auzzie
12:21:46 <Brunius> There's a game IRL on Sundays that I keep meaning to go to
12:21:51 <Mort-> Except me :(
12:22:09 <Brunius> And Steven and Hydrazine and S711 and WorkinSushi and diebot
12:22:16 <Brunius> :P
12:22:18 <Mort-> I went to the game shop last Tuesday to find it closed :(
12:22:32 <Brunius> Closed as in permaclosed or tempaclosed/
12:22:35 <Brunius> ?
12:22:36 <Eric> You're only a few thousand km away, practically walking distance :)
12:22:39 <Mort-> I don't know
12:22:46 <Mort-> Because i couldn't go this week
12:22:50 <Mort-> Other commitments
12:22:57 <Mort-> Ill try next week :(
12:23:09 <Mort-> I already missed 3 weeks :(
12:23:23 <Mort-> First week i was sick and had work to do
12:23:33 <Mort-> Second week i went there and found it closed
12:23:47 <Mort-> Third week i had another group meeting to go to
12:24:50 <Eric> Local store lets up use the basement unless a Magic tourney is happening
12:24:58 <Mort-> Ah
12:25:06 <Mort-> See pms
12:25:06 <Eric> they specail orser Paizo stuff, but make their money on Magic
12:25:48 <Mort-> Ah
12:26:06 <Mort-> You're matts friend right?
12:26:17 <Mort-> Or sushis :p
12:26:47 <Eric> yep to Matt. He plays in my LEgacy of Fire campaign
12:27:11 <Eric> Run it every 2 or 3 weeks
12:27:16 <Mort-> Ah k
12:27:29 <Mort-> He said he dming jade reagent :p
12:27:38 <Mort-> I don't know what to roll help!
12:27:56 <Eric> That's his plan, but nothing started
12:28:07 <Mort-> Help!
12:28:18 <Eric> When in doubt roll a d100
12:28:19 <Mort-> I dunno wat to do
12:28:36 <Eric> !roll 1d100
12:28:36 <dicebot> Eric, 1d100: [1d100=95] 95
12:28:47 <Eric> There, all is good
12:28:57 <Mort-> Y'at does that give
12:29:00 <Mort-> For class
12:29:15 <Mort-> I just need a concept to work with
12:29:32 <Mort-> But atm i don't even know how I'm going to fight with my concepts
12:29:45 <Eric> What haven't you played?
12:29:45 <Mort-> Like i don't think i would do shit
12:30:02 <Mort-> No divine classes
12:30:08 <Brunius> Play a paladin mort-
12:30:13 <Mort-> Have fetish. And no want preach
12:30:26 <Mort-> No want give group headache too
12:30:50 <Eric> Oracle looks difficult, but take tongues curse and mess with folks
12:31:06 <Mort-> I can do oracle if i wanted to
12:31:24 <Mort-> Just i don't like the idea of gods messing up with my life
12:31:47 <Mort-> That's why no divine classes
12:32:31 <Brunius> You can be a paladin of an ideal
12:32:46 <Mort-> I don't want to be one
12:32:58 <Mort-> For the groups sanity :p
12:33:23 * Mort- is a shape shifter
12:33:47 <Eric> Druid?
12:34:09 <Eric> Beast Shape seems like a good fit
12:34:16 <Mort-> Divine class?
12:34:21 <Mort-> No gods :p
12:34:41 <Mort-> Besides I've already shape shifted myself permanently :p
12:34:50 <Eric> Druids are N. Love nature, abhor gods ;)
12:34:55 <Mort-> Matt still hasn't quite approved about it
12:35:08 <Brunius> I've texted Avatar
12:35:09 <Mort-> Hm doodad. Do i get a flying roc? :p
12:35:33 <Eric> You can have a falling rock
12:36:13 <Mort-> Flying roc!
12:36:16 <Mort-> With lance!
12:36:19 <Mort-> Never mind.
12:36:33 <Mort-> Pass on it.
12:36:47 <Mort-> That's a little too oped
12:36:49 <Eric> Only if you were a Gnome
12:37:15 <Mort-> Halflings can do too!
12:37:29 <Mort-> And yeah generally no gnomes
12:37:45 <Eric> Foo on fey?
12:37:56 <Mort-> No
12:38:11 <Mort-> I don't like gnomes
12:38:38 <Mort-> They are one race that will blow your house down in the name of science
12:38:57 <Mort-> Then tell the watch it was an accident
12:39:05 <Mort-> And get away with it
12:39:14 <Mort-> You're still dead though
12:41:40 <Eric> straight up Fighter?
12:42:40 <Mort-> I need magid
12:42:44 <Mort-> I live on magic
12:42:58 * Mort- is inherently magical
12:43:07 * Mort- is a magicalmur!
12:43:19 <Eric> Arcane Archer prestige?
12:43:40 <Mort-> Could..
12:43:46 <Eric> I'm thinking of a Zen Archer arcane archer
12:43:54 <Mort-> You need arcane spells
12:44:07 <Eric> 1 level only
12:44:07 <Mort-> Also i would like to know what the group is doing
12:44:18 <Mort-> For all I'm kind of crap...
12:44:24 <Mort-> I actually have a brain!
12:44:34 <Mort-> And probably can play any class decently
12:44:55 <Mort-> Or wait.
12:45:23 <Eric> it will depend on who is in the group. but play someting you can enjoy
12:45:32 <Mort-> In part is due to being able to draw upon the hydrazine for melee rules expertise
12:45:48 <Mort-> I don't want the group to lack certain focus
12:45:58 <Mort-> And if i did what i liked
12:46:11 <Mort-> I don't think i would have much combat effectiveness
12:46:35 <Eric> There is almost always someone who just wants to bash stuff in every group
12:46:47 <Eric> jopefully it isn't the wizard
12:47:10 <Mort-> I probably will want to bash stuff
12:47:52 <Eric> then taking anything not built for melee will hinder the group
12:47:53 <Mort-> I don't think my character is even playable before 4 :p
12:48:11 <Mort-> Well i wanted to bash stuff. Finesse
12:48:13 <Mort-> Lol
12:48:35 <Eric> in an adventure path, that would be half way through the 2nd book
12:49:05 <Mort-> Yeah
12:49:10 <Mort-> That's the point
12:50:25 <Eric> of the Core 4, Wizard is about the least useful at low levels.
12:50:36 <Eric> makes up for it with skills though
12:51:47 <Mort-> Yeah how :(
12:51:56 <Mort-> Non functional
12:52:00 <Mort-> :p
12:52:47 <Eric> If players metagame, a good DM changes the features of the creatures to counter
12:53:25 <Eric> skeletons guy, change to blunt! suddenly skeletons have rubber bones since no one didi know Reigion
12:54:09 <Eric> skills become far more important outside of PFS
12:55:00 <Mort-> Oh :(
12:55:15 <Mort-> That's why i carry a morningstar.
12:55:31 <Mort-> If slashing doesn't work we have blunt and piercing!
12:55:49 <Mort-> But seriously i don't think my character is playable
12:55:56 <Mort-> Till at least 4 :d
12:57:21 <Eric> an unplayable character is too tightly min-maxed. loosen up a couple of features and it would work
12:57:34 <Avatar> eric: do I owe you a chronicle sheet
12:58:05 <Eric> g'day. yes for Zebado last weekend.
12:58:39 <Eric> techncially for dead Kyra a couple weeks ago as well, but feel free to hold on to that one .;)
13:00:26 <Mort-> You can apply for a level 1 character
13:00:49 <Avatar> do you want a chronicle for a dead pregen
13:01:15 <Eric> Zebado is an example of a tight minmax, he's really not good for much is battle, but has skills out the wazoo
13:02:04 <Eric> Avatar, if I don't have a chronicle sheet I would end up playing the scenario again at some point
13:03:30 <Mort-> Lol its a different sort of min max
13:03:36 <Mort-> Are you going mt?
13:03:55 <Eric> I believe that it should be applied to be fair
13:05:19 <Eric> but I will leave it to your discretion and or mercy
13:06:08 <Mort-> Aw
13:06:11 <Mort-> So formal :p
13:06:18 * Mort- hugs eric
13:06:35 <Mort-> You sure you haven't have some knight errant in you,g
13:07:20 <Eric> If I run the scenario, I get the sheet anyhow, so thereis an out if it comes to it :)
13:08:31 <Mort-> You can apply credit even if you died to a first level character
13:08:41 <Mort-> Don't need to resolve death for that
13:09:02 <Mort-> If you want to apply cred to higher level then 1st then you do
13:09:41 <Eric> I'm actually running out of 1st level characters, higher level missions haven't been offered very often
13:09:56 <Eric> or very high levels I don't qualify for
13:10:40 <Eric> Butaro could take the sheet I suppose, I haven't played him much
13:14:22 <Mort-> I think you need
13:14:26 <Mort-> Create new character
13:15:51 <Eric> I was thinking about redoing him as Shinkai an Elven Zen Archer
13:16:02 <Mort-> Oo
13:19:04 <Mort-> How do zen archers worn
13:19:06 <Mort-> Work
13:19:13 <Mort-> Archery is very feat intensive
13:21:35 <Eric> They are, but the Zen archer gets most of them for free plus Deflect Arrows
13:21:45 <Eric> always good for a laugh
13:22:02 <Eric> He still has improved unarmed
13:23:04 <Eric> Only reall problem is lack of HP and weak Fort and AC for a fighter type
13:23:14 <Mort-> You need precise shot to shoot into melee
13:23:19 <Mort-> Mage armor helps
13:23:29 <Mort-> They don't get evasion do they?
13:23:55 <Eric> gets it first level without needing point blank. No evasion
13:24:43 <Mort-> They have precise shot?
13:24:50 <Mort-> Then how about cover from allies
13:24:59 <Eric> If Shinkai survives 1st level, he'll be death on 2 legs
13:25:00 <Mort-> When you shoot from front
13:25:23 <Mort-> Lol i don't have good first level helpers already
13:25:50 <Mort-> As in my more tankish types are level 2
13:25:51 <Eric> I've only play Butaro in one mission, he averaged 12 arrows per engagement
13:26:39 <Eric> He tended to drop the target just as the barbarian was closing for the kill :)
13:27:01 <Mort-> Do you have rapid shot?
13:27:37 <Eric> Monks generally want high Dex, so friendly usually isn't too much of a deterent
13:27:53 <Eric> Flurry of Arrows full round action
13:28:22 <Eric> with Point Blank, net +0 +Dex
13:29:00 <Eric> twice per round
13:30:16 <Eric> After the first mission he could afford MW composite Longbow +1 Strength for 2x +4 (1d8+1)
13:32:22 <Hydrazine> g'day.
13:32:30 <Eric> And he still has unarmed strike if enemy closes
13:32:55 <Mort-> Hi hydra
13:34:05 * Mort- water
13:34:14 <Mort-> Waves
13:35:29 <Hydrazine> Hey Eric, did you know that deadly aim in a flurry acts at flurry bab?
13:35:53 <Hydrazine> As in, a level 4 monk deadly aims at -2/+4.
13:36:00 * Eric ponders Mort's creation of water in order to "wave"
13:36:16 <Mort-> Wave
13:36:21 <Eric> I haven't thought that far up, but yeah sounds right
13:36:25 <Hydrazine> in a flurry. and -1/+2 otherwise.
13:36:41 <Hydrazine> I learned this in my hypothesis of Supermonk.
13:36:54 <Hydrazine> The pure offensive melee monk that makes fighters look bad.
13:37:25 <Mort-> Haha hydra
13:37:27 <Eric> I'm thinking of Arcane Zen Archer prestige
13:37:55 <Hydrazine> Zen Archer is very strong. I wish the rest of monk worked so well.
13:38:23 <Eric> Monks are too squishy to stand for long in melee
13:38:28 <Hydrazine> Are you sure the special features stack well?
13:38:42 <Hydrazine> Thats not precisely the whole story.
13:39:09 <Hydrazine> The problem, is that you can't balance both a decent offense and defense on a 20 pt buy.
13:39:20 <Mort-> Haha!
13:39:34 <Mort-> I say you just need mage armor?
13:39:41 <Mort-> Or a wizard friend?
13:39:59 <Eric> Or a wand and a level of Wizard
13:40:29 <Hydrazine> Which is still covered in my summary of the problem, Mort.
13:40:42 <Hydrazine> That a monk can't do both on his own.
13:40:50 <Eric> (arcane Zen Archer redux)
13:41:07 <Hydrazine> If the answer is 'don't be a monk', I think you see my problem very clearly.
13:42:01 <Eric> what do you need for "decent" Defence? 16 Dex, 16 Wis
13:42:24 <Eric> what do you need for "decent" Offence? 16 Dex, 16 Str
13:42:40 <Eric> Can you do that in 20 pts?
13:42:41 <Hydrazine> You forget con.
13:43:09 <Hydrazine> I don't think I like the look of arcane zen archer.
13:43:24 <Hydrazine> Mostly because it looks like all the good stuff from arcane archer, takes standard actions.
13:43:40 <Eric> Con is survivability, Toughness offsets it initially, plus traits
13:45:13 <Eric> Well, it's late and i'm almost finished my beer, so it looks good to me :)
13:45:38 <Mort-> Lol
13:46:29 <Hydrazine> oh, the answer is no, you can't get 3 16s on a 20 point buy. Maybe if the other three stats are 7s.
13:48:03 <Eric> Um, Avatar, are you still here? I'll need to sign off soon.
13:48:38 <Eric> Skype message the URL would do the job, you can run the sheet at your convenience
13:49:22 <Hydrazine> actually, 16 16 16 10 7 7 IS a valid point buy, assuming a +2 any.
13:50:52 <Eric> I would take a 13 Str and the first level burn on offence. Transmuter level at 2nd to give 14.
13:51:18 <Eric> and Elf
13:51:18 <Hydrazine> My own monk's offense/defense ended up better, but only because hes a 1 trick pony.
13:52:04 <Eric> IS this Squeezy from last week?
13:52:17 <Hydrazine> Quite.
13:53:30 <Eric> Grapple Monk does seem to offer some advantages, but I think you can eat some defence ability fighting from range
13:53:52 <Hydrazine> level 3, 19 ac, 5/7/6 saves, +9 grapple, +6 attack.
13:54:43 <Hydrazine> ...13 str. 1d6+1 damage when he actually does it. And hes got 7's for int and cha.
13:56:10 <MekkisScreen> 16 16 16 8 7 7 is vaild
13:56:14 <MekkisScreen> valid unmodified
13:56:18 <MekkisScreen> seems STUPID though
13:56:33 <Hydrazine> Agree.
13:56:41 <MekkisScreen> 15 14 12 12 12 12 is better
13:57:50 <Eric> Level 1 , 16 ac, 4/5/5, +4 ranged (with MW composite bow) Flurry arrows 2x +3 (1d8+1). Cha 8, everything else 12+
13:58:27 <Eric> Point blank gives extra +1/+1
14:00:47 <Hydrazine> Can you afford to start with a composite bow?
14:01:02 * Eric clock strikes 12 and turns into mouse
14:01:15 <Eric> after the first mission or Rich Parents trait
14:02:16 <Eric> Avatar, can't stay any longer. Message me the chronicle when you have a chance.
14:03:15 <Eric> Ciao guys, it's been fun, but it's a workday. take care.
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14:05:00 <Mort-> Vol
14:05:07 <Mort-> That's funny
14:06:13 <Mort-> Turns into mouse
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14:26:01 <Mort-> Hello
14:39:32 <Avatar> ug, I forgot
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15:54:50 <MekkisScreen> Polymorph Any Object
15:57:40 <MekkisScreen> discuss
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16:17:37 * Mort- thinks mekkis is an object and turns him into a jade toad
16:19:12 <Avatar> pretty sure you can only polymorph objects into other objects
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16:36:29 <MekkisScreen> pretty sure you're wrong, Avatar
16:37:52 <Mort-> Mekkis
16:38:00 <Mort-> You're a toad and they don't speak
16:38:33 <MekkisScreen> I made my save
16:38:48 <Mort-> Bah
16:38:52 <MekkisScreen> or maybe I have the [shapechanger] subtype
16:38:56 <MekkisScreen> you decide!
16:39:39 <Mort-> Ok you're a toad
16:40:04 <MekkisScreen> and you're a lemure?
16:40:45 <Mort-> No
16:40:53 <Mort-> There is no e at the end
16:41:09 <MekkisScreen> "Skewer, not Smite"
16:41:37 <Mort-> Uh?
16:46:14 <Avatar> yeah you're right
16:57:12 <Mort-> Skewer?
16:57:27 <Mort-> To say I'm a lemure pains me mek :(
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17:40:52 <Steven> yo yo
17:41:37 <Steven> i 'killed' somebody tonight
17:41:48 <Avatar> call the cops
17:43:43 <Steven> a rogue decided he was going to rob a homeless guy
17:43:55 <Steven> and was like... well no witnesses! *shank*
17:44:04 <Steven> guard was like what up dog
17:45:17 <Avatar> what up dog
17:45:56 <Steven> he was like stealth run away!
17:46:13 <Steven> guard was like *perception* i wins! you caught
17:46:31 <Steven> convicted of murder, player now unplayable grats
17:47:33 <Steven> and he was like awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww whys
17:48:12 <Avatar> is this PFS?
17:48:15 <Steven> so i was like... well next time dont murder innocent peoples
17:48:59 <Steven> YUP
17:49:17 <Steven> he could have gotten an attonement spell... but he was in prison lol
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18:39:47 <Mekkis> Steven, he wasn't Andoran?
18:42:52 <Steven> no he was chelaxian i believe
18:43:34 <Mekkis> what a pity
18:43:44 <Mekkis> so he's on the Other side of the law :)
18:45:30 <Mekkis> at least the Andorans will spring you!
18:46:06 <Mekkis> he COULD commit suicide, then pay 5 prestige for recovery, 16 prestige for raising, and 8 prestige for restoration
18:49:29 <Steven> level 3
18:49:51 <Mekkis> ah
19:44:25 <Steven> wow that sucked
19:44:55 <Steven> athsma attack so fun
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20:03:20 <Brunius> Man, who am I kidding. I don't have any bloody clue how to use this magnetometer
20:15:23 <Steven> why do you have a magnetometer?
20:24:23 <Brunius> I need to tell this bot which way is north
20:25:11 <Brunius> The example code I've been given doesn't help at all
20:27:44 <Steven> cant decide if i want to level my polearm fighter or apply it to my bard.
20:27:53 <Steven> the credit i got tonight
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21:50:33 <Brunius> Get two sheets and apply to both
21:58:52 <Mekkis> Brunius, magnetometer?
21:59:09 <Mekkis> oh, and Brunius...
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21:59:59 <Mekkis> You've been doing some programming, right?
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22:03:17 <Steven> 5am morning... oh yeah
22:03:33 <Steven> ill be up for liek two hours, then i get to go back to sleep
22:14:18 <Mekkis> lemures can't be paladin
22:14:26 <Mekkis> lemurs can
22:14:32 <Mekkis> Mort can't be a paladin
22:14:41 <Mekkis> THEREFORE, Mort is NOT a lemur, but rather a Lemure!
22:14:43 <Mekkis> QED!
22:15:06 <Mort-> No !
22:15:20 <Mort-> You can accuse everyone in channel except you and bru
22:15:29 <Mort-> For being lemures then
22:15:37 <Mekkis> Steven, are you capable of playing a paladin?
22:15:40 <Mort-> Because they don't have pallies!
22:15:54 <Mort-> I don't think he would uh..want to..
22:19:16 <Steven> yes i am
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22:21:52 <Brunius> I've been trying to program an arduino, Mekkis_x200
22:21:55 <Brunius> Why?
22:22:09 <Mekkis> because you should program an IRC client
22:22:20 <Mekkis> every language you program in, you should write an IRC client
22:22:21 <Brunius> I looked it up, btw - it's a similiar but not identical language to C++
22:22:35 <Brunius> Hmm
22:22:43 <Mekkis> or an IRC bot
22:22:55 <Brunius> Woah man, don't push me too far
22:22:58 <Mekkis> bots are easier than clients
22:23:10 <Brunius> Let me figure out how to get the thing to talk IRC first
22:23:18 <Mekkis> (you're dealing with one input stream, not two)
22:24:31 <Brunius> So you're saying I should go back and write an IRC client/bot in VB and Interactive C?
22:26:48 <Mekkis> yes, actually
22:28:07 * Mort- murs around with her tail twitching
22:28:39 <Mekkis> especiallt C
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22:33:35 * Tashes sneezes
22:34:50 * Mort- runs to tashes with a big blanket
22:35:33 * Tashes hides under it
22:35:39 <Tashes> dont come too close, you'll get manflu!
22:36:17 <Tashes> Manflu, in case you're wondering, is exactly the same as regular flu except you get to be extra mopey about it
22:48:00 <Mort-> Oh dear
22:48:28 * Mort- brews Chinese herbal tea for tashes
22:52:58 <Avatar> Tashes: the pre-requisite to get that is that you have to be a man
22:54:53 <Mort-> She is a woman
22:54:56 <Mort-> Has man too
22:55:53 <Mekkis> Avatar, you don't need to be a bird to get bird flu
22:56:01 <Mekkis> you don't need to be a swine to get swine flu
23:32:25 <Avatar> but you have to be a man to get manflu
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