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06:10 <Mort-> Mek you around?
07:20 <Avatar> I need to reboot I think
07:29 <Avatar> I installed a new copy of winrar and now my Extract Here option is gone from my context menu
07:51 <Mort-> Oh dear
08:02 <Mort-> There goes your record
11:43 <Avatar> I don't care about record
11:48 <Avatar> I hate rebooting
12:35 <Mort-> Lol
12:39 <Mort-> I use my cell
21:54 <Avatar> forget that
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38:15 <Hydrazine> Howdy.
38:24 <Urist> Hey man
38:35 <Hydrazine> Whats kicking?
38:41 <Hydrazine> Getting ready to con it up?
38:47 <Hydrazine> Got your dice hand ready for srs rolling?
39:04 <Urist> haha, i am, cant wait
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53:20 <Hydrazine> Should keep count of how many things Coze murderizes.
55:35 <Urist> will do, or is that important?
56:01 <Hydrazine> Its not important.. Unless you want to brag about how kick ass your piggy is.
56:03 <Hydrazine> Then its important
56:21 <Urist> haha, well then i do :P
56:43 <Urist> by sunday evening i will be level 3
56:51 <Hydrazine> I wanna get some gaming on.
57:19 <Urist> so what feats should i pick, so i have an iidea, power attack for coze at level 2
01:11 <Hydrazine> yeah. He gets a feat at 2, you don't.
02:27 <Urist> i just checked, thanks for clearing it up :)
03:46 <Hydrazine> I try to help.
06:32 <Urist> so do i ever get feats?
07:19 <Hydrazine> Every odd level.
09:19 <Urist> thanks
09:42 <Urist> thinking of getting natural spell next
11:35 <Urist> cause it will pay off at level 4
13:37 <Hydrazine> I'd say play a few games first, think about it when you get there.
13:57 <Hydrazine> You might find you don't actually need the power to cast spells in animal form as much as you think now.
28:17 <Urist> alright
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01:46 <Mort-> Hydra
01:54 * Mort- waves
05:17 * exBoomerET nods and waves, then sits back down.
05:38 <Mort-> Oh boomer
05:52 <Mort-> I watched magadascar 3 last night
06:06 <Mort-> Funny as heck :p
08:12 <exBoomerET> Yes, it was!
10:09 <Mort-> I'm sad mort shot someone though :(
10:18 <Mort-> He isn't supposed to...
11:20 <exBoomerET> He shot who? The crazy lady?
11:26 <Mort-> Yes
11:49 <Mort-> But still. King julien should have done the shooting
11:53 <Mort-> Imo
12:14 <Mort-> There's something wrong giving a cute lemur like him a gun
15:11 <exBoomerET> Just got told to go home, it's too nice outside to work.
15:13 <exBoomerET> I love this place.
15:44 <Mort-> Aw :p
15:49 <Mort-> Have fun :d
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21:02 <Hydrazine> Cool.
24:23 <Mort-> Hydra. I have some questions for you
24:32 <Hydrazine> Ask, and ye shall recieve.
25:19 <Mort-> If a druid took 1 level of wild blooded empyreal sorceror - he can cast enlarge person on his animal companion?
25:23 <Mort-> Shield as well?
25:32 <Mort-> Lets say we cast from wand
25:48 <Mort-> Does scroll take asf?
25:55 <Hydrazine> asf?
26:03 <Mort-> Arcane spell failure
26:26 <Mort-> For being in heavy armor. I know scroll casting provokes
27:04 <Hydrazine> So when you said you had questions, you didn't mean the simple stuff today.
27:27 <Mort-> Yes
27:34 <Mort-> I just thought of ideas
27:40 <Mort-> You know me.
29:36 <Hydrazine> Okay.
29:49 <Hydrazine> So, can a druid who can cast enlarge person cast it on his familiar? yes.
30:02 <Hydrazine> Does a scroll suffer spell failure? yes.
30:13 <Mort-> Ok so you will need to wand it
30:46 <Mort-> I wonder how grull would feel as a sorc dip :p
31:08 <Mort-> Is it worth it just to pick up a couple of buffs,
31:32 <Mort-> Next. Produce flame. Range 0 ft. Can you cast it on your animal companion?
31:36 <Hydrazine> Well. Do you feel ranger has insufficient buff spells available?
32:02 <Mort-> High level
32:08 <Mort-> Animal growth is 4
32:21 <Mort-> Enlarge person is just 15 gp away :d
32:31 <Mort-> Lead blades ftw too!
32:38 <Mort-> Actually the thing i worry is time
33:01 <Hydrazine> So then is it really worth picking up more buff spells that you can whine about not having the time to use?
33:32 <Mort-> Maybe not.
33:38 * Mort- tail droopp
33:47 <Mort-> I said i had an idea!
33:56 <Mort-> Didn't say they were good ones :p
34:04 <Hydrazine> Fair enough.
34:07 <Mort-> But urist on the other hand..
34:15 <Mort-> Isn't doing anything much during combat
34:25 <Mort-> He could enlarge coze? ^^
34:54 <Hydrazine> He will when he can shift animal form and rock out.
35:26 <Mort-> That's why i suggested natural spell for him
35:44 <Mort-> If you want to be an animal..drop spell casting?
36:05 <Hydrazine> Hes already considering natural spell.
37:41 <Mort-> I told him about it
37:43 <Mort-> Actually
37:59 <Mort-> I told him how are you going to explain to your gm
38:17 <Mort-> Oink oink = entangle
38:46 <Mort-> Oink oink oink = cure lightning
40:04 <Mort-> Call
40:07 <Mort-> Excuse me
40:44 <Hydrazine> Well, I don't think you can cast them at all in animal form without it.
46:31 <Mort-> Ya you can't
47:15 <Mort-> Just out of sheer fun creative exercise
47:30 <Mort-> If 2 people. One being a syn mount.
47:37 <Mort-> Always play together
47:54 <Mort-> What class for the rider. And what feats. Small of course
48:23 <Mort-> How do you ride by while letting your mount take pounce full attacks
48:35 <Hydrazine> You can't.
49:50 <Hydrazine> ride BY rather specifically indicates that your mount goes PAST the target. Hence, ride by.
55:04 <Hydrazine> As far as the rider, fighter ofcourse.
55:18 <Hydrazine> Mounted combat and all that jazz.
56:12 <Mort-> Ah damn. So there is no way for you and your mount to make full attacks
56:58 <Mort-> Can your mount snap out with his 10 ft bite as you ride by?
57:08 <Mort-> Who intiates the charge
58:10 <Mort-> Actually i was thinking barb for rider
58:19 <Mort-> Rage..
58:30 <Hydrazine> How does anyone else do a full attack? You start your round next to the enemy.
58:43 <Hydrazine> Trying to get entirely around that with two people, is just digging too hard, Mort.
58:59 <Mort-> But say both of them don't want to start the next round next to an enemy
59:13 <Hydrazine> Then accept that you can't do a full attack.
59:23 <Hydrazine> The same way everybody else does.
59:23 <Mort-> And someone decided riding do a hellhound thing was cool
59:26 <Mort-> Haha
59:37 <Mort-> How does spring attack work
59:54 <Mort-> Sigh. When people want exotic mounts
00:03 <Mort-> As i mean. Really exotic.
00:05 <Hydrazine> You can move and attack at the same time without AoO from the target.
01:11 <Mort-> So to start with the rider needs to be small
01:44 <Mort-> And probably it will be a waste of time for ride by if both want their mouthfuls
02:17 <Hydrazine> This has to do with balance, Mort.
02:33 <Mort-> So the rider intiates the charge?
02:49 <Mort-> Both delay till their initiatives are the same?
03:06 <Mort-> Rider intiates the charge with a lance
03:18 <Mort-> Then the mount pounces and full attacks?
04:46 <Hydrazine> Mounts act on the rider's initiative. Period.
05:13 <Mort-> Ah and he needs to make ride check for mount to make full attacks?
05:22 <Mort-> Ie ride check of dc 10?
05:44 <Hydrazine> dc5 to guide with knees and have both hands available.
05:57 <Mort-> Fun is the mount is another player so I'm highly amused
06:32 <Hydrazine> I would say a lance charge with a pouncing mount is legal.
06:41 <Mort-> I blame paizo for not having dragons in game
06:47 <Mort-> Dragon riders
07:09 <Mort-> Maybe it might be exotic enough to stop one of them from riding  the other
07:23 <Hydrazine> Heres the news though. Next round you're too close to lance unless the mount has reach, and you have to start in melee range.
07:46 <Mort-> So basically first round - charge with lance
08:07 <Mort-> Then next - drop lance draw melee weapon and start hitting
08:30 <Mort-> Unless the rider is a polearm master
08:51 <Mort-> Or he could get his mount to clean up baddies too
08:54 <Hydrazine> And take quick draw before you get iterative attacks, or suffer the consequences.
09:04 <Mort-> Ah
09:19 <Hydrazine> And if you drop the lance, how do you engage the next enemy?
09:34 <Mort-> Are both the rider and the mount considered charging?
09:48 <Hydrazine> Yes.
09:50 <Mort-> Draw a longsword or something
10:27 <Mort-> If the mount takes up to level 4 in scout archtype - target is flatfooted then?
10:38 <Mort-> I don't really think its a worth while trade though
11:23 <Mort-> This is confusing. Its hard to get a syn mount with 10 ft reach
11:37 <Mort-> Unless the syn in question uses a long spear instead
11:48 <Hydrazine> Then hes got 6 limbs I hope?
11:55 <Mort-> Now that is one weird picture
11:59 <Mort-> No. I don't want to think about it
12:04 <Hydrazine> think centaur.
12:05 <Mort-> He has to
12:12 <Mort-> No hands no spells.
12:18 <Mort-> Syn wants to cast
12:28 <Mort-> At least mage armor if nothing else
12:47 <Mort-> So a halfling /gnome on a lance
13:00 <Mort-> Is riding a horse like thing using a spear
13:28 <Mort-> God.
13:40 * Mort- has a headache :p
14:44 <Mort-> But thanks for the bit on quickdraw
14:48 <Mort-> Didn't catch that one
15:02 <Hydrazine> Otherwise you'd be suffering from the move action to draw.
15:27 <Mort-> Otherwise its polearm master
15:38 <Hydrazine> -4 on all attacks after second round?
15:39 <Hydrazine> lol.
15:44 <Mort-> Lol
15:52 <Hydrazine> Screw that.
16:07 <Mort-> How does the fighter stop things from flanking them both
16:40 <Mort-> Yes they thought it was funny. Charging into that melee mess
16:41 <Mort-> Or does the syn have to take that one up using bite and reach evolution
16:51 <Hydrazine> How does a non-mounted person stop things from flanking them?
17:07 <Mort-> Trip
17:25 <Mort-> But who would be taking that role of stopping people
17:40 <Mort-> They are trying to mesh it
18:12 <Mort-> If only gangup was for 1 adjacent ally they would both take and get perma flanking :p
18:17 <Mort-> Sigh
18:29 <Mort-> Headache :p
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19:30 <Mort-> Fun times
20:00 <Mort-> Or it means you need one more person and gangup would work
20:19 <Mort-> But when do you get 3melees threatening the same guy.
21:29 <Mort-> Damn it
21:42 <Mort-> Whole thing is really feat intensive.
21:49 <Hydrazine> Which is why I said fighter.
22:03 <Mort-> No. The fighter can
22:08 <Mort-> The syn can't
22:27 <Mort-> Fighter needs mounted combat and spirited charge
22:45 <Mort-> 2 feats just for 1 round of charging entertainment with a pounce?
22:52 <Mort-> Gee :p
23:12 <Mort-> Uh. What happens if you took cleave line on charge?
24:05 <Hydrazine> Hard to manage I'd say.
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26:45 <mortswishytail> I think its very powerful if you can get someone who you know will always play beside you
26:54 <mortswishytail> Can sync feats and all.
27:12 <Hydrazine> Heres a question.
27:16 <mortswishytail> But because of that. I get a headache because i said i would help :(
27:18 <mortswishytail> Yeah
27:41 <Hydrazine> If you use a two handed weapon with one hand, somehow.. do you use 1.5str and PA rules or one hand rules?
27:58 <mortswishytail> I think 1 hand rules
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28:05 <mortswishytail> I looked at it myself about lance
28:19 <mortswishytail> After that i went to look for all the shield team work feats
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29:07 <Mort-> Then realized the other person needs to carry a shield as well
29:19 <Mort-> The mount wants to focus on more offense. Trusting the riders mounted combat to keep him out of trouble
29:29 <Mort-> Offense and mobility.
29:54 <Mort-> I think if i were the monster i would just chase the rider
30:14 <Mort-> Then they started looking into gangup. Precise strike .
30:21 * Mort- sighs
30:45 <Hydrazine> Saving shield.
31:04 <Hydrazine> two feats. Guve someone adjacent +2 ac.
31:06 <Mort-> Ideally the rider should defend both of them
31:27 <Hydrazine> I'd say get a magic item for +5 ride skill.
32:29 <Mort-> While the mount just lays about with his teeth and claws
33:08 <Mort-> Hd
33:20 <Mort-> Actually i think the rider will get into trouble
33:23 <Mort-> Not the mount.
33:37 <Mort-> Uh. Would you target a really exotic looking mount? :p
33:58 <Hydrazine> Heres a question though, which hits harder? lance charge or the mount's attacks?
34:12 <Mort-> Lance charge
34:22 <Mort-> The fighter is in full plate
34:23 <Mort-> Or will be
34:42 <Mort-> The mount does 3 attacks but small ones lets say
34:50 <Mort-> 1d6+
34:51 <Mort-> 2
34:58 <Mort-> 1d4+2
35:16 <Hydrazine> I think, particularly as you level up, the rider's charge will greatly outpace the syn's damage.
35:29 <Hydrazine> Which would favor a more traditional mounted combat style.
36:27 <Mort-> Or not. They were trying to work flanking into the equation
36:29 <Mort-> So the syn can use sneak attack and lots of rogue levels
36:36 <Mort-> As i said. The rider is supposed to keep them both out of trouble
36:52 <Hydrazine> THen you can't flank without a third party.
37:13 <Mort-> Yes. Which is why the rider did consider some doodad levels
37:20 <Mort-> And a flyer
37:34 <Mort-> Or maybe another person at the table for it
39:00 <Hydrazine> Well, do you normally run a two person table?
39:02 <Mort-> Oh man i never realized that the whole thing would be that complicated
39:08 <Mort-> No you don't
39:33 <Mort-> Essentially both of them occupy the same space
40:04 <Mort-> So its actually easy to get another person to threaten the monster
40:21 <Mort-> But gangup and precise strike are so feat intensive.
40:59 <Mort-> Well screw precise strike. Enough rogue levels and the syn won't care about it
41:22 <Hydrazine> If you're talking about doing this at higher levels..
41:40 <Mort-> Point is even if the lance charge is doing more damage
41:52 <Hydrazine> Why not have a medium fighter, ride a horse until the syn can get large, then swap over?
41:55 <Mort-> The mount is going to feel left out
42:00 <Hydrazine> Have the syn flank until then.
42:14 <Hydrazine> Not just left out, but... Kinda wasted.
42:18 <Mort-> Syn wants to throw defenses to the winds
42:38 <Mort-> And get someone to use mounted combat on him :p
43:08 <Mort-> And both want to have some fun while at it
45:00 <Hydrazine> I think a better answer is having the syn take spring attack and evolve up a severe, tripping, single attack.
45:06 <Hydrazine> And ride by all the time.
45:09 <Mort-> Maybe
45:14 <Mort-> I wanted to find a way
45:26 <Hydrazine> A way to?
45:27 <Mort-> For both of them to fight together
45:33 <Hydrazine> I like that one.
45:41 <Mort-> Try to sync that huge mess
45:50 <Hydrazine> Leads towards a more traditional mounted combat style.
45:51 <Mort-> Of what their idea of fun is like
46:05 <Hydrazine> Which gets rid of the messy full attack stuff, or lance range issues.
46:10 <Mort-> I swear they read too much of knights of camelot
46:28 <Hydrazine> And doesn't really take away from the syn as you level.
46:55 <Hydrazine> Who is this?
47:04 <Mort-> Hm?
47:09 <Hydrazine> Who is this all about?
47:10 <Mort-> Oh just rl stuff :p
47:44 * Mort- considers what happens if she could get her brother to pfs :p
47:45 <Mort-> Lol
47:54 <Mort-> Oh dear.
48:07 <Hydrazine> Would he?
48:31 <Mort-> If he gets bored of diablo 3 may'd
48:45 <Mort-> I don't know why he has time to d3 the whole week long
48:58 <Mort-> He has 2 characters at level 60 already
49:12 <Hydrazine> I see.
49:34 <Mort-> I sort of miss fighting beside him
49:42 <Mort-> Last time we would always do one healer one tank
49:51 <Mort-> And group together in mnos
50:43 <Hydrazine> Me and tash do that pretty often.
50:53 <Hydrazine> But we're so cool, we switch back and forth regularly.
51:00 <Hydrazine> In league, generally we both tank.
51:09 <Mort-> I miss having him around :(
51:11 <Hydrazine> And stomp people with double tank teams. They don't even know why.
51:15 <Mort-> Lol
51:18 <Mort-> Team work
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51:27 <Mort-> He has more brains then i do
52:25 <Mort-> Better reflexes. But I'm sneakier
52:28 * Mort- sighs wistfully
53:47 <Mort-> Thanks anyway hydra
53:56 * Hydrazine bows.
53:57 * Mort- hugs hydrazine
54:06 <Hydrazine> Pondering if I should take this further.
54:13 <Hydrazine> And draw up sheets for these two.
54:14 <Mort-> Take what?
54:16 <Mort-> Lol
54:38 <Mort-> All i need is to tweak xyn on next level up
54:42 <Mort-> And he gets a mount
54:53 <Mort-> But god he is under leveled
55:02 <Mort-> I can probably manage sheets for us both
55:40 <Mort-> To do a single tripping attack probably i need to just get a long spear
55:53 <Mort-> Then ill drop rogue levels. No need
56:35 <Hydrazine> I think either fighter/syn or straight syn would do better.
56:37 <Mort-> Can even get 15 ft reach with that spear
56:43 <Hydrazine> Don't need to.
56:48 <Mort-> Straight syn
56:51 <Hydrazine> Don't need any at all.
56:59 <Mort-> One reach evo away
57:36 <Hydrazine> Get bite with trip, have only a single natural attack, for 1.5 str, get power attack..
57:40 <Mort-> And one lightning bolt would screw us both.
57:43 <Mort-> No
57:48 <Mort-> if you single attack
57:58 <Mort-> Use manufatured weapons
58:07 <Mort-> Easier on enchants
58:22 <Mort-> You can pa with it as well.
58:28 <Mort-> Will fight like a human
58:39 <Hydrazine> pa with a natural attack at 1.5 str is just like PA with a 2hander.
58:58 <Mort-> Natural attacks its harder to overcome dr
59:35 <Mort-> And you can mw and enchant manufactured weapons
59:40 <Mort-> More easily
04:12 <Hydrazine> Hm. Good point. But you need more limbs for that.
18:05 <Mort-> No
18:14 <Mort-> I'm not growing that many
18:29 <Mort-> Just a pair of hands.
23:19 <MekkisScreen> Hydrazine: syn with manufactured is pretty good
23:26 <MekkisScreen> summoner is better without the syn though
38:48 <Mort-> Just talking shop if my brother could be convinced to play pfs
39:47 <Mort-> Hm. Or if i went standard summoner. Could still give my brother my mount
39:56 <Mort-> Can 2 people sit on a mount? :p
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41:40 <BoomerET> Hello everyone.
41:47 <Avatar> boomer
42:02 <Avatar> have you ever heard of a game called Boomer's adventure in ASMIK world
42:28 <BoomerET> Nope, can't say I have.
42:43 <Avatar> great gameboy game
42:54 <BoomerET> Have you ever heard of Garpsters Archaic Rooms of Paranoia for Gameboy Color? I wrote it.
43:12 <Avatar> nope
43:15 <Mort-> Lol
43:25 <Avatar> is that true
43:47 <BoomerET> Yes, I wrote it for a Bung competition.
44:06 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_KE0rUKdY
44:07 <BoomerET> I think I came in 13th
44:11 <Avatar> boomer is a dinosaur
44:26 <Avatar> at least I think he is
45:47 <Mort-> Only reason you play a syn is to give your eidolon class levels
45:52 * Mort- tweaks
59:26 <Mort-> Man that was sort of fun
59:27 <Mort-> :p
02:52 * Mort- jumps happily on boomeret
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37:36 <BoomerET> Hey, stop that.
43:30 <Mort-> Why :(
43:43 <Mort-> Murs like jumping on people :)
07:23 <Avatar> you're human
29:37 <Mort-> Aw well
29:47 <Mort-> Nothing going on on sat? :(
29:54 * Mort- sniffs
30:08 <Mort-> i think sushi got some rl issues
44:40 <Avatar> I could've run perils on saturday if I'd have known he wasn't going to be in
07:47 <Mort-> Who?
07:48 <Mort-> Doesn't matter
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58:32 <Avatar> sushi
03:12 <Mort-> What?
03:24 <Mort-> I think a bad case of rl bit him
03:40 <Mort-> Hopefully it is over a nice thing and not a nasty one
04:00 <Mort-> I'm still looking at eidolon mounts
05:12 <Hydrazine> Still think while it seems useful on the surface, it becomes a waste.
10:26 <Mort-> Its quite interesting
10:36 <Mort-> The rules involved though
10:42 <Mort-> It just looks cool
11:15 <Hydrazine> I don't think it would be that unreasonable for a DM to disallow a fair bit of it either.
11:46 <Hydrazine> For example, mounted combat. Using ride checks to protect a mount. Or Ride-by.
12:13 <Hydrazine> What about horse master?
12:22 <Mort-> There is even an argument about Spring attack and ride by
12:22 <Mort-> God
12:22 <Mort-> :d
13:46 <Mort-> Anyway if you consider base damage. If the fighter charged and the eidolon pounced
14:03 <Mort-> Assuming both hit i don't think anything would survive that
14:36 <Hydrazine> Sure things would.
14:40 <Hydrazine> Boss types.
14:58 <Hydrazine> It also means difficult terrain screws you even harder than most melee.
15:29 <Mort-> Not when your mount flies
15:42 <Mort-> One advantage of using an eidolon
15:48 <Mort-> I'm flying!
15:49 <Mort-> Lol
16:53 <Mort-> Besides its so fking cool when you can literally ride something that looks absolutely fabulous
18:24 <Mort-> Like you can go - I'm riding a flying serpent
18:29 <Mort-> Nice picture :d
19:05 <Hydrazine> Perfectly fun until someone greases your saddle.
24:14 <Mort-> Hey you're a wet blanket :p
24:34 <Hydrazine> And you got alot more restrictive weight limits on flying things.
24:40 <Mort-> Command your serpent to bite them then :d
24:43 <Hydrazine> Good old quadrupeds, they can carry damn near anything.
24:49 <Mort-> That's why we have anthaul
25:51 <Mort-> Don't worry. If you fly into an anti miga field your mount disappears and you crash to the ground
26:08 <Mort-> That's why you shouldn't fly more then 20 ft above the ground
26:34 <Mort-> The advantage of rideby is that monsters can't do full attacks on you
26:49 <Mort-> However if you meet someone like oskar. Sucks to be you.
27:10 <Hydrazine> Or a wizard who packs glitterdust?
27:35 <Mort-> Stay up until glitterdust wears off
27:54 <Hydrazine> Thats useful.
28:02 <Mort-> But its fun to fly!
28:19 * Mort- grows a pair of feathery white wings
28:38 <Hydrazine> "Help, help!" shouts the rest of your party, as the savages lay into your rogues and wizards.
29:04 <Mort-> The ride by thing
29:10 <Mort-> Is not to protect anyone
30:05 <Mort-> Ride by you can't protect anyone
30:18 <Mort-> If you want to protect people stick to a single charge
30:27 <Mort-> Then quick draw melee weapon
30:39 <Mort-> And lay about with it and your mount
31:20 <Hydrazine> I considered getting Jerus a mount.
31:57 <Mort-> Your mount would get shot out from under you
32:05 <Mort-> Wait till xyn gets to 9
32:10 <Mort-> Or enlarge her :p
32:11 <Mort-> Lol
32:53 * Mort- grins at hydra
33:12 <Mort-> I think ill be very happy when i get my wing
33:14 <Mort-> Wings
34:26 <Hydrazine> Just checked. All the polearm stuff does apply to a lance.
40:06 <Hydrazine> oh!
40:14 <Hydrazine> Monks use full bab for PA on a flurry.
40:18 <Hydrazine> I did not know that.
40:20 <Mort-> Really?
40:25 <Hydrazine> Supermonk hits harder than I thought.
40:25 <Mort-> Pa?
40:28 <Mort-> What's pa?
40:33 <Hydrazine> power attack.
40:34 <Mort-> Power attack
40:41 <Mort-> The moment you use flurry you
40:50 <Mort-> Have full bab
41:05 <Mort-> And what polearm stuff and lances
41:10 * Mort- bounces
41:33 <Hydrazine> Come now. You can't act like thats entirely 100% crystal clear.
42:05 <Mort-> A lance is a polearm correct?
42:15 <Hydrazine> Does a level 8 monk power attack at -2/+4 like his 6/1 bab indicates, or -3/+6?
42:17 <Mort-> But you can't use a polearm like a lance
42:32 <Mort-> Huh?
42:37 <Hydrazine> No, a lance isn't in the polearms group.
42:44 <Hydrazine> However, it is in the spears group.
42:53 <Mort-> Oh i thought it was for determining your attack only
42:56 <Hydrazine> And all of Jerus' special features apply to polearms and spears.
43:00 <Mort-> Not how much your pa does for
43:03 <Mort-> Oh.
43:12 <Hydrazine> So whats the answer to the monk PA question?
43:28 <Mort-> I thought you will only get your base bab?
43:36 <Hydrazine> Incorrect!
43:42 <Mort-> Just that when you flurry you get it higher?
43:44 <Mort-> I
43:47 <Mort-> Oh?
44:03 * Mort- really has a lot to learn about meleeing :(
44:07 <Hydrazine> A level 8 flurrying monk can power attack at -3/+6.
44:12 <Mort-> Oh
44:13 <Hydrazine> I didn't know this either. Just learned.
44:15 <Mort-> That's new
44:25 * Mort- hangs her head in shame
44:32 <Hydrazine> Which makes Supermonk even more badass.
44:41 <Mort-> Glass cannon 
44:42 <Hydrazine> Shame he doesn't actually get effective until level 7 or so.
44:47 * Mort- winks
44:52 <Hydrazine> Totally. But hes an AMAZING glass cannon.
45:12 <Mort-> What is your full ac
45:28 <Mort-> How bad does it get if you run around with a wand of mage armor
45:31 <Mort-> Really.
46:40 <Hydrazine> Don't remember. I'd have to redo him. I think I lost the sheet.
46:52 <Mort-> Lol?
46:59 <Mort-> You should save :p
47:02 <Mort-> Heh.
47:12 <Avatar> I was wondering why it was so cold all day today
47:16 <Avatar> minimum 7, maximum 8
47:19 <Mort-> But i really have a lot to learn about melee feats
47:20 <Mort-> Oh
47:23 <Mort-> Winter
47:45 <Mort-> I only know how to walk into the mess and whack someone over the head
47:50 <Mort-> With a pointy thing
48:15 <Mort-> I know fob does not work with natural attacks
48:21 <Mort-> But i never got the theory why
48:25 <Hydrazine> Feral combat training.
48:37 <Hydrazine> One feat to fix it.
49:24 <Mort-> Also the monks unarmed damage bonus does not work with natural attacks
49:44 <Mort-> I wonder what happens if you flurry of claws
49:52 <Mort-> What exactly happens when you flurry
50:28 <Hydrazine> You beat the hell out of someone, Bruce Lee style?
50:31 <Hydrazine> Well, thats the idea anyway.
50:55 <Hydrazine> It doesn't go so well in practice.
51:19 <Hydrazine> Did you know that with weapon focus, you can use dex for CMB for disarms, trips, and sunders?
51:35 <Hydrazine> Finesse, not focus.
52:04 <Avatar> er, are you sure
52:16 <Hydrazine> I can reference this if you like.
52:29 <Avatar> it says on attack rolls
52:40 <Avatar> unless there's an errata
52:46 <Hydrazine> http://paizo.com/products/btpy88yj/faq?Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Core-Rulebook#v5748eaic9ojt
52:56 <Mort-> There is a long debate about it
53:09 <Hydrazine> Theres also a short answer in the CRB Faq.
53:12 <Mort-> Ok so grulls cat will have weapon finesse
53:13 <Avatar> nice
53:28 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+6 bite
53:46 <Mort-> No dice wtf?
53:56 <Avatar> wtf?
54:01 <Mort-> And !throw 1d4+1 damage
54:05 <Avatar> maybe for the best
54:09 <Mort-> Hey
54:11 <Mort-> :(
54:13 <Avatar> since rolls are completely unnecessary until we play
54:19 <Mort-> But yes
54:40 <Mort-> Does kitty get 1d20+6 to trip on free attack action on bite?
56:47 <Hydrazine> Think so.
01:20 <Avatar> guys update what you've played: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/pfs.php5
02:14 <Mort-> Rawr
02:25 <Mort-> Didn't you tell me to do it last week,g
02:39 <Mort-> Avatar you nag worse then my mom :(
03:29 <Avatar> well are you doing it
03:57 <Avatar> there's no nagging if it looks right
04:42 <Mort-> Ill update. Maybe once every 3 months
04:50 <Avatar> update after every game
04:56 <Avatar> it helps us work out what game to run
04:56 <Mort-> Ask me if you want them live
05:02 <Mort-> You really sound like a nag
05:10 <Avatar> you really sound lazy
05:14 <Mort-> Just say the scenario ill say yes/no
05:23 <Mort-> That's the truth :d
05:33 <Avatar> with everyone
05:35 <Mort-> I'm lazy unless you give me chocolate chip cookies
05:36 <Avatar> not possible
05:38 <Mort-> :d
05:45 <Avatar> just go to the site and tick the box
05:53 <Mort-> Sure. But I'm contactable
05:55 <Mort-> Fluffy
05:59 <Avatar> cmon mort
06:04 <Mort-> And i don't have a comp mostly
06:22 <Avatar> if you can play a game, you can tick the box
06:27 <Mort-> Do you know how hard it is to click that small box on cell? :p
06:39 <Avatar> if you can use maptool, you can tick a box
06:43 <Mort-> I can play games. On week ends :d
06:50 <Mort-> That's different ^^
06:56 <Mort-> Its on weekends too
07:02 <Avatar> do it on the weekend and you don't have to do it during the week :P
07:23 <Mort-> Then on weekends I'm too busy gaming
07:28 <Mort-> And shopping
07:32 <Mort-> To click on boxes
07:34 <Avatar> and whining
07:40 <Mort-> Hey :(
07:49 <Avatar> don't make it harder on everyone mort
08:00 * Mort- whines. Avatar is a meanie
08:23 <Avatar> you're the meanie
08:30 <Mort-> Show me who else diligent ly fills up the sheet
08:38 <Mort-> Besides you.
15:02 <Avatar> that's a really poor reason not to do it
16:13 <Mort-> Well im like an elementary school kid sometimes :p
16:52 <Mort-> Well teacher. He isn't doing his homework as well.Why are you coming after me :(
17:02 <Avatar> just do it mort
17:08 <Avatar> it's less effort than having this conversation not to do it
19:34 <Mort-> That doesn't sit well with me.
20:11 <Mort-> Maybe if you gave me a chocolate chip cookie each time i did it? :p
22:22 <Avatar> why doesn't it sit well
23:37 <Mort-> I don't like being told what to do when it has no benefits for me :)
23:48 <Mort-> I am motivated by self interest :)
23:57 * Mort- grins
24:50 <Avatar> more games will be run that you can play
26:51 <Mort-> I can play most stuff anyway
27:01 <Mort-> Or be around just to yell i already played thict
27:02 <Mort-> That
27:19 <Mort-> On irc. As loudly as i can :)
28:54 <BoomerET> I'm going to sleep, nitey nite.
29:09 * BoomerET has left the building...
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36:02 <Mort-> Aw
37:43 <Avatar> scenarios get organised before you get to say sorry can't play
37:58 <Avatar> if you fill it out, there's more of a chance to say I haven't played that
42:05 <Mort-> I'm here 24/7 reallyg
58:15 <MekkisScreen> Mort-: when you get to a computer, could you fill out http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/dumptext.php
58:55 <Mort-> Oh no oh no oh no
59:11 <Mort-> Don't make me fill forms mek
59:24 <Mort-> Its a nightmare
01:08 <Avatar> that one is, at least
01:38 <Mort-> No..please for the love of god. No
19:15 <MekkisScreen> if Darkwhite can fill it out...
19:29 <MekkisScreen> and claims that it's the easiest of its kind to fill out
24:03 * Mort- hates forms
24:13 * Mort- groans
24:35 <MekkisScreen> it's a single-field form
24:39 <MekkisScreen> that you paste into
27:52 <Mort-> Uh mail the address to me at
28:40 <Mort-> Ill forget the conversation as soon as i get home ^^
35:26 <MekkisScreen> emailed
36:52 <Mort-> Thx
37:10 <Mort-> Love your tag :d
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18:40 <Mekkis> I should make an email address for each of my PCs
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20:13 <Brunius> I like how that tag decodes.
20:21 <Mekkis> ?
20:49 <Mekkis> which tag?
21:01 <Brunius> [17:35] <MekkisScreen> emailed
21:04 <Brunius> [17:36] <Mort-> Thx
21:07 <Brunius> [17:37] <Mort-> Love your tag 
21:19 <Brunius> Assuming it's the same one you've been using since I emailed your paypal account
21:41 <Mekkis> you're wrong
22:36 <Mort-> Its what he put on the email
22:40 <Mort-> Its so cool
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52:58 <Avatar> sorry about that
55:45 <Mekkis> anyone got Advanced Races?
00:59 <Mort-> Not i said the mur
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11:09 <Avatar`> just when I think I've got tethering working, the internet comes back up
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32:18 * Mort- twitches nervously
35:27 <Brunius> Why would you bother tethering
35:30 <Brunius> seriously
35:56 <Mort-> Because you never know when you might need it
36:00 <Mort-> Seriously.
36:14 <Mort-> I had a case of power failure in my house once
36:18 <Mort-> On qfp3
36:36 <Mort-> Tethered my cell to the comp
36:41 <Mort-> To continue being around
38:02 <Brunius> Maybe I'm just not as bound to the internet as you guys are
39:54 <Avatar> why wouldn't you
40:14 <Avatar> it's like having your tv turn off while you're watching it, and all you have to do is reach over to the remote and turn it back on again
40:23 <Avatar> are you just not going to do it because "you're not bound to it"
40:39 <Mort-> Actually if i weren't bound here i probably wouldn't
40:51 <Mort-> However i lack anything resembling a normal life :(
41:17 <Mort-> My mom would kill me if i left my comp on over night
41:31 <Mort-> That's why i stick to cell
45:05 <Brunius> It's not like that at all Avatar
45:20 <Brunius> It's like having your TV turn off and having the option to watch something at the movies instead
59:22 <Avatar> you always have that option
03:08 <Brunius> What's your point
04:38 <Avatar> my point is your example is dumb and my example is spot on
05:09 <Brunius> Ah, but it's the other way around
05:14 <Avatar> ah but it's not
10:35 <Mort-> What should i do now.
10:45 <Mort-> Work or pleasure
16:22 <Brunius> If you go to a prostitute, use her services, then leave without paying, is it rape or theft?
22:07 <Mort-> Hm id say rape because its sex without consent
22:33 <Mort-> She would give consent only if you paid her
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31:58 <Mort-> Ooh
32:17 <Mort-> Catprog is looking for someone to run city of strangers 2 for him
32:34 * Mort- ears prick up
32:50 <Mort-> Hydra and matt haven't played that one yet
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51:39 <Mekkis> Brunius, have you been fantasising about rape?
51:48 <Brunius> No.
51:52 <Brunius> I saw that posted on facebook
51:59 <Mekkis> murder?
52:12 <Brunius> I think murder is a little more common
52:15 <Brunius> But no
52:23 <Mekkis> slaughter?
52:33 <Mekkis> self-defence?
52:33 <Brunius> No?
52:36 <Brunius> Yes
52:45 <Mekkis> killing in self-defence?
52:53 <Brunius> I have been fantisising about self defense?
52:56 <Brunius> No
53:04 <Mekkis> assassination?
53:24 <Brunius> What's the point of this question, Mekkis
53:52 <Mekkis> I felt it was a good time to see if I could grill you
55:17 <Mekkis> s/if/how far/
55:51 <Mekkis> why do you read Techdirt?
56:11 <Brunius> I don't
56:27 <Mekkis> why do you link techdirt here?
56:54 <Brunius> Because the content in said article was relevant to the interests of many in this channel
59:15 <Mekkis> what? that Techdirt doesn't understand IPv6?
59:27 <Brunius> indeed
00:30 <Mekkis> keep in mind that IPv6, as specced out, doesn't give 2^96 more usable addresses than IPv4
00:35 <Mekkis> the number's a lot lower
00:51 <Mekkis> it's closer to 2^30
07:07 <Mekkis> brb, pouring alcohol on my mouse
07:57 * Mort- shudders at mouse abuse
08:17 <Brunius> First mice, then lemurs!
08:28 <Mort-> No!
08:33 * Mort- hides
08:42 * Mort- casts invisibility
09:12 * Mekkis casts Isopropyl Spray
09:28 <Mekkis> Brunius, did you prepare spark?
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09:38 <Brunius> Sorry, no time this morning
09:49 <Steven> theres always time for sexy time!
09:56 * Mort- has a bad feeling about this
10:19 <Mekkis> what about you, Steven?
10:34 <Brunius> Steven: If you use the services of a prostitute, then leave without paying, is it rape or theft?
10:35 <Steven> I think its a great idea!
10:44 <Steven> Theft of services.
11:48 <Mort-> Rape for unconsented sex.
11:58 <Steven> its not rape, she consented to the sex
12:07 <Mekkis> if you use the services of the prostitute, then kill her and leave without paying, is it rape?
12:18 <Mort-> She consented only if you paid her
12:28 <Steven> no, she agreed to be paid for sex
12:36 <Mort-> Since you didn't pay her its not consent
12:37 <Brunius> You could argue there was an oral contract that the consent was given only if paid
12:51 <Mort-> So no pay = no sex.
12:56 <Steven> that is only valid if she put that into the verbal agreement
13:12 <Mort-> No pay and have sex means no consent
13:26 <Brunius> Argh, I talked to spaceshot about one thing 40k and he's been messaging me about various things 40k for the hour-2 hours since
13:50 <Mekkis> he's still trolling you?
14:11 * Mort- has acid flask and alchemist fire
15:20 * Mort- offers bru acid flask and alchemist fire
15:39 <Steven> negative, you are linking two different issues. Payment for sex and consent for sex.  unless specifically linked in the verbal agreement that consent is only given if payment is given, then it is not rape if you leave without paying.  It would be Theft of services.
15:41 * Brunius takes the acid flask and chugs it down
16:27 * Mort- stares at brunius. With mouth gaping open
17:12 <Mekkis> I wish my mouse was as reliable as my keyboard
17:23 <Mort-> Would any prostitute agree to have sex with you without being paid?
17:41 <Mekkis> haven't you seen Moulin Rouge?
17:41 <Steven> I imagine some of them have had boyfriends in the past.
18:02 <Mort-> Unless they said they were doing it for free i suppose
18:19 <Mort-> Otherwise id say you did it without consent
19:13 <Steven> no, she consented to the sex, not being robbed/not paid.
19:43 <Mort-> If that is what she said before hand then yes
19:57 <Mekkis> Mort-, you haven't consorted with incubi/succubi in nethack?
20:06 <Mort-> But if i were one id say no pay = no sex
20:17 <Mort-> i don't play nethack mek
20:38 <Steven> and then what recourse would you have if someone didnt pay you?
20:42 <Mort-> And i bet they take your souls for payment
20:54 <Mekkis> nope
21:10 <Mort-> Call the police and tell them the whole story
21:38 <Mort-> Anyway. Am i in danger of a smite lemur?
21:54 * Mort- eyes mek dubiously while invisible
22:19 <Steven> charging them for what crime?
22:40 <Brunius> In Australia, prostitution is legal, Steven
22:41 <Mort-> Rape for doing it without consent
22:43 <Brunius> I don't know about america
22:52 <Steven> they did not rape you because you agreed to have sex with them.  It doesnt matter what you were supposed to get in exchange for the sex.
23:14 <Mort-> Consent is given on me getting paid
23:19 <Steven> Legality of prostitution is not the issue. brunius, im not arguing that.
23:29 <Mort-> No money = no sex as i said
23:40 <Steven> no mort, consent is given when you agree to have sex with them Legaly speaking.
23:52 <Steven> them not paying you would constitute robbery or theft of services.
23:58 <Mort-> I would agree only with conditions attached
24:21 <Mort-> So without those conditions being fulfiled. Consent not given
24:31 <Mort-> Lets bring it to hydra
24:39 <Mort-> And see what he says
24:54 <Steven> i went and looked it up.  Not rape, you gave consent to have sex with them.  You were a willing partner in the act of sex
25:07 <Avatar> why did you look it up
25:15 <Steven> interesting conversation.
25:19 <Mort-> We are going to keep going round in circles about the conditions
25:33 <Mort-> I said if i was paid. I consent.
25:36 <Mekkis> same reason why I look up copyright law when arguing with Spaceshot
25:41 <Mort-> No pay means no consent
25:56 <Steven> afraid not mort.  No payment means they robbed you.
26:04 <Steven> you still consented to the act of sexual intercourse.
26:11 <Mort-> But if that's the way the law works and you have proof for it
26:19 <Mort-> Then i won't argue further
26:35 <Mort-> Though i think its screwed up. That law
26:46 <Mekkis> Soon, I will murder you. Won't that me nice?
26:58 <Steven> consent cannot be given modifiers past willingness to enguage or continue a sexual act.
27:07 <Mort-> I'm definitely not going to read tomes to argue on that
27:13 <Mekkis> http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2006/8/23/how-to-fake-a-smile.html
27:27 <Mort-> And as i said before i don't really like arguing with people 
27:43 <Mort-> But i feel pretty strongly about this
28:08 <Steven> Other wise, sam could say ill let you have sex with me if you give me a million dollars.  I dont pay her the million dollars, i go to jail for rape, conviction and what not.
28:18 <Steven> my grandpa takes pity on me, pays her the million dollars on my behalf
28:36 <Mekkis> your grandpa has a million?
28:37 <Steven> well now im innocent of rape, and im imprisoned unlawfully.
28:46 <Steven> my grandpa has multiple millions
29:13 <Mekkis> so then you sue the state for wrongful imprisonment and get a hefty payout
29:21 <Mekkis> then spend it all on Sam, and all is good!
29:24 <Steven> exactly
29:31 <Mekkis> sounds like a plan!
29:52 <Steven> but thats why they dont allow conditional consent to be given.  You either consent to a sexual act or you do not.
30:16 <Mekkis> ummm...
30:32 <Mekkis> tell that to the UK court that's extraditing Julian Assange
31:05 <Steven> Oh we wont get into the fucked up politics of UK.  they have laws that contridict each other.
31:18 <Mekkis> and the US doesn't?
31:36 <Steven> oh for sure we do
31:42 <Steven> but its fairly cut and dry when it comes to rape
32:34 <Mekkis> here's a question, Steven: In what section of the US constitution is the Second Amendment?
34:01 <Steven> It is in the bill of rights, not the constitution
34:37 <Mekkis> the bill of rights is in the constitution.
36:15 <Steven> not to my knowledge.  The united states constitution was adopted in september 1787 and the bill of rights was adopted in decepmber 1791
37:16 <Mekkis> it's at the back, with the rest of the amendments.
37:22 <Steven> I thought you were talking about the actual document though.  The United States Constitution.  the piece of paper ya know.
37:48 <Brunius> the piece of paper wouldn't have any of the amendments on it
37:56 <Brunius> Unless they were fond of scratching stuff out
38:58 <Steven> sorry when i think of the US constitution i think of the Piece of paper.  Not the Constitution with all its amendments.
39:14 <Mekkis> when an amendment is passed, it becomes part of the constitution
39:43 <Steven> ive had a rubber band on my wrist for the last few ours and dindt realize it
40:05 <Steven> now i got a wicked sweet line around my wrist.
44:05 <Steven> its all tingly now.
44:14 <Steven> stupid nerves waking up.
44:40 <Steven> also how did we go from prostitution, to constitution? they sound a like i know but... yeah.
45:34 <Mort-> Doesn't help that most people in power are guys either
45:39 * Mort- growls
45:47 <Steven> oh man now morts throwing sexism into the mix.
46:13 <Brunius> hurrah
46:16 <Brunius> night guys
46:21 <Steven> have a good one brunius
46:22 <Brunius> enjoy your arguements
46:34 <Steven> arguements... hell no sir.  these are discussions!
46:50 * Mekkis looks at female PM
47:10 * Mekkis looks at previous female premier
47:10 <Steven> seriously though mort.  we let you have the children what more do you want?
47:39 <Steven> sexism ftw!
47:52 <Avatar> I bet you're not really looking at the pm and the premier
48:07 <Steven> woudl be a pretty awesome thing if he was though.
48:32 <Avatar> awesome or creepy? you decide!
48:41 <Steven> it cant be both?
49:10 <Steven> maybe he is learing at one sexually while barating the other with nonsensical arguements?
50:08 <Mort-> Mekkis. Most people up there are still males
50:19 <Mekkis> my local member is a female
50:28 <Steven> On a more serious note.  I have been trying to set up a skull and shackles game for my friends  over in moscow.
50:43 <Steven> One of my friends wanted to play some third party content and i told him with approval.
51:06 <Steven> and he came up with this 'gem' of a class
51:08 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/adamant-entertainment/swashbuckler 
51:13 <Mekkis> oh
51:20 <Mekkis> did HE do THAT post?
52:05 <Steven> which post?
52:59 <Mort-> Looks like upgraded rogue
53:03 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz5y9c?Am-I-being-unreasonable
53:09 <Steven> hey thats me!
53:17 <Mekkis> ah
53:33 <Mort-> Bit too powerful imo.
53:41 <Steven> yeah just a bit.
53:57 <Mekkis> did you ask him to describe his character without using class names?
54:17 <Mekkis> without using class, feat, or ability names
54:48 <Steven> so i got a hold of him, and now he is blowing up my phone with suggestions on how to make the class more 'balanced'
55:07 <Mekkis> ask him to describe his character without using class, feat, or ability names
55:29 <Steven> he used some term, but i dont remember what it was. let me go find it.
57:17 <Steven> he said, a Dexterous, charismatic Ladies man that never had any education whatsoever and he just relied on his reflexes and charm.
57:26 <Steven> I responded with, so a bard?
57:37 <Steven> and he was like no, a swashbuckler
57:44 <Steven> and i was like theres a bard archtype for that
58:08 <Steven> and he said, no this one and linked me that bastardization of a class
59:27 <Steven> like the class he describes doesnt sound exactly like a bard.
03:29 <Steven> I just finally called him.
03:53 <Mort-> I always thought ladies men were rogues :p
03:57 <Steven> Aparantly, he thinks i shot down his first idea of being an assassin. which i didnt i told him some of the drawbacks of being an assassins
03:59 <Mort-> Dastardly types
04:23 <Steven> that being that because they know you would kill them for money, nobody really trusts you.
05:11 <Mort-> Id like to be an anti paladin some day
05:13 <Mort-> Actually
05:21 <Mort-> Hm
05:42 <Steven> and if you off a king of some country or are roaving around the seas murdering for no reason othe rthen to murder you likely will end up pissing crew mates off that want to make money rather then sate your blood lust
06:03 <Steven> and he thought that was me saying "No you cant be an Assassin."
06:25 <Mort-> I don't know how anyone can have a good alignment in skull and shackles though
06:35 <Steven> you can
06:43 <Mort-> I think it won't take long to get it wiped out
07:10 <Steven> As long as you try to keep people from mudering/torturing people
07:23 <Mekkis> I've played assassins
07:31 <Steven> and dont do those things yourself you can remain Good
07:33 <Mekkis> Mytiazair would be an assassin if PFS allowed it
07:40 <Mort-> Now i think about it xyn really has no place in skulls and shackles
07:41 <Mort-> Ow
07:45 <Mort-> That bad?
08:05 <Mort-> And he met mort? :(
08:21 <Mort-> God. I really need to keep mort from bad company
08:24 <Steven> I hate that you cant be an assassin in PFS.  Its lame that the prereq is evil alignment.
08:33 <Mort-> Yeah
08:57 <Mort-> I don't think i would want to be an assasin
09:01 <Mort-> I'm not lawful
09:03 <Steven> Cause seriously covert operatives that work for goverments arent evil and im sure they have had to kill people before.
09:21 <Mekkis> ah
09:38 <Steven> Well... some of them might be evil
09:44 <Mekkis> but seriously covert operatives who work for secret societies are Definitely not evil!
09:49 <Mort-> I can manage ce. But le is hard.
10:05 <Mekkis> LE iseasy
10:09 <Mort-> I think even lg is a stretch for me
10:13 <Steven> LE so totaly easy.
10:14 <Mort-> I can't le.
10:28 <Mort-> No
10:35 <Steven> CE is harder.  You do evil for evils sake.
10:36 <Mort-> I can't.
10:52 <Steven> hard not to end up on the pointy end of somebodies weapon.
10:55 <Mekkis> no you don't 
10:58 <Mekkis> you do evil for fun
11:09 <Steven> really isnt that the same thing? lol
11:19 <Mort-> Yes lets rape the town
11:41 <Mekkis> evil for evil's sake is neutral evil
12:46 <Steven> its more like, lets rape the town, steal everything, burn it down while everyone watches and cries and then kill them.
13:04 <Mort-> And the sheep
13:26 <Mort-> Sounds fun!
13:28 <Steven> kill the sheep? why the sheep?
13:41 <Mort-> Because you can
14:05 <Steven> but if you kill them you cant rape them later.
14:11 <Steven> i mean...
14:13 <Mort-> Can i tie all the towns folk to a pole and burn them at stake?
14:17 <Steven> sell them... for monies.
14:35 <Mort-> As a sacrifice to my evil overlord
14:37 <Mort-> :d
14:42 <Steven> Sure why not.
14:46 * Mort- wants to do that!
15:17 <Mort-> Each time i sack a town i need to think of new torture methods
15:35 * Mort- eyes glow blood red...
16:12 <Mort-> There's this one you get 5 horses to pull people apart
16:30 <Mort-> I think you need more then one person to carry that out though
16:36 <Steven> did i mention sam went to visit her dad? im totaly free for the next 5 days.
17:16 <Mort-> I want to level my magus some
17:27 * Steven dances the freedom dance. Which makes him look really dumb since he is in just his underwear.
18:12 <Mort-> Lol
18:40 <Mort-> But really i always wanted to carry out all those sacrifices
18:44 <Mort-> And tortures
19:10 <Steven> mort.  has anyone ever told you that you're a strange one?
19:27 <Steven> also.  I am not letting you near my nieces and nefews, ever.
19:29 <Mort-> Wuh why?
19:58 <Mort-> Wuh why?
20:01 <Steven> cause you're strange.
20:09 * Steven loads his shotgun.
20:17 <Steven> I'm watchin you!
20:32 <Mort-> In what sense
20:56 * Steven follows Mort's movement with careful study.
21:47 <Steven> I gotta put out the dogs, moonlight just came over and yapped at me... it was pretty freakin cute.
21:48 <Mort-> What the heck is your problem
23:25 <Steven> im pretty sure its psychological in nature.
23:50 * Mort- ponders and doesn't understand
24:12 <Steven> ok dogs going out, see you all in a bit.
25:06 <Steven> except you mort.  im always watching you....
25:15 <Mort-> What is darkness. What is light
25:30 <Mort-> Just two sides of a mirror
25:45 <Mort-> And we have both parts within us.
26:07 <Mort-> No matter how we try to hide. We always have darkness within us
28:05 <Mort-> Waiting for the day where it can break free of its tethers. 
28:18 <Mort-> To breach the cage of our will. 
28:28 <Mort-> And ravage the world
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54:43 <Mekkis> what else should you do the the world?
02:45 <Mort-> Hm
03:00 <Mort-> Torture them all for kicks
03:37 <Mort-> Pick up every torture method i can on wiki and see which one gets the most screams :)
10:09 <Mekkis> sounds interesting
10:10 <Avatar> Masochist
10:17 <Avatar> mashochists
10:19 <Mekkis> how is that masochistic
10:23 <Mekkis> sounds sadistic
10:33 <Avatar> sadists
11:48 <Mekkis> Mort-, how do you measure a scream?
12:12 <Mort-> Its subjective
12:22 <Mort-> You could go by decibels
12:28 <Mort-> or maybe by the tone.
12:47 <Mort-> Really. Its all your own preference
12:50 <Mekkis> so really you need to do it several times, on several different subjects, in order to rule out experimental error
14:37 <Mort-> Hm yeah i suppose
14:55 <Mort-> Not very smart in this mode :d
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16:51 <Mekkis> and you need to decide whether to term them "partners", "participants", "subjects" or "victims"
18:54 <mortswishytail> What for they are all subjects?
19:03 <mortswishytail> I'm doing experiments on screams
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20:26 <Mekkis> hmmm
20:40 <Mekkis> you should do a double-experiment
20:54 <Mekkis> and get another group to inflict the tortures
21:01 <Mekkis> that way you can be unbiased
21:57 <Mort-> No they are all mine.
22:09 <Mort-> My preciousss...
22:33 * Mort- grins at mekkis
24:16 <Mekkis> that's not a good approach to the Scientific method
24:38 <Mekkis> considered instead building machines to administer them, to get consistent results?
24:55 <Mort-> But mek. I want to do it myself.
25:02 <Mort-> Its so fun!
25:08 <Mekkis> ah
25:14 <Mekkis> so you want to be in the second group
25:17 <Mekkis> while I supervise?
25:40 <Mort-> But i want to use my methods!
26:22 <Mort-> God damn.
26:23 <Mekkis> so you can start by filling out a description of the methods you wish to use
26:29 <Mort-> Ok!
26:39 <Mort-> I want the wu ma fen shi
27:10 <Mort-> Then i want to do the kali cult death of a thousand cuts
27:13 <Mort-> The blood eagle.
34:41 <Mort-> Headed home now to fill forms
40:02 <Mort-> paizo.com/forums/dmtz3zr6?Flight-and-Prehensile-Hair#1
40:10 <Mort-> Sigh before i start flying
55:19 <Mort-> Damn it
55:31 <Mort-> Sushi didn't report fs3!
58:37 <Avatar> yeah he hasn't
58:59 <Mort-> Mekkis
59:02 <Avatar> I haven't got a chronicle sheet for it yet either
59:10 <Mekkis> .
59:14 <Mort-> You didn't report murder on the throaty mermaid
59:16 <Mort-> Either
59:20 <Mekkis> ..
59:21 <Mort-> Now what scenario was it
59:31 <Mort-> Its your fault
59:41 <Mekkis> .
59:41 <Mort-> Because you asked me to fill up the form :p
59:48 <Mort-> Its true!
59:54 <Mort-> What goes around comes around
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