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00:55 <Rafael_017> 3/5 players aren't roleplaying or only doing bull.... I whatched the movie "The gamers" and ... yeah I felt reminded of our group
01:31 <Mort-> Think it needs practice maybe
01:47 <Mort-> I'm only one year old to this. Or make it 9 months!
03:06 <Avatar> Rafael_017: what kind of things do they do
03:07 <Rafael_017> well I started 3 months ago... and I roleplay more than the most expierenced player  in our group o.o 
03:15 <Mekkis> Rafael_017, that's an uncomfortable situation. Roleplay can be contagious, but so can the inverse
03:37 <Rafael_017> Well one always want to fuck female 
03:42 <Avatar> hahaha
04:25 <Mort-> Well..
04:43 <Mort-> My fighter buddy is always looking up pretty skirts ^^
04:50 <Rafael_017> NPC as soon as he sees them, others always reads the rules and disturbs the session saying that and that is not possible.... and the third is  drawing pictures and only active during the fights
05:11 <Mort-> Lol
05:25 <Mort-> I was eating ice cream and trying to type with 1 hand earlier
05:34 <Rafael_017> My groupd is made of loners... their characters can't really form a group
08:08 <Rafael_017> since my characters dies I am either quitting or playing a RG-Character like a priestress/cleric ... before that I played a rather NN-Characters (well driven by revenge we was wather evil...)
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08:35 <Mekkis> who's the GM?
09:07 <Rafael_017> a rather shy person, which is the GM for the first time.....
09:21 <Mekkis> ah
09:23 <Rafael_017> ( every adventure the GM changed.... -.-)
10:51 <Rafael_017> anyone got advice how to play a rightious good characters without pissing the others off too much?
12:15 <Rafael_017> we play offline so searching for new players is really hard
13:11 <Mekkis> Rafael_017, there are two ways to approach it
15:31 <Mekkis> one method is to stick with your principles and be willing to kill off the others
21:30 <Rafael_017> and the other is?
22:09 <Mekkis> the other is to find some way to justify your character's presence with them
26:13 <Rafael_017> like there is a holy mission which can't be postproned and she needs someone to fight with otherwise she would die
26:25 <Mekkis> yeah
27:02 <Rafael_017> for the greater good my character will turn a blind eye if a character pisses on a holy figure or raides a grave.....
27:34 <Mort-> Really you should tell the other people to be less douchnw
27:53 <Mort-> If i knew a pally was as my table i would leave my imp at home
28:10 <Mort-> Hrm
28:25 <Rafael_017> well my character will do so... for the perverted mage .... there are ways to say him " Be good... and I will be good... to him" in a seducing way...
28:45 <Mort-> Though if i were a pally in question i might try convert the imp :p
28:58 <Rafael_017> and for the others my character will appeal to their warrior code
29:04 <Mort-> Hey pallies are always full of hope wot?
29:17 <Mort-> I think you need to talk to the other players in person as well
29:27 <Mort-> Can't always make allowances
29:40 <Mort-> What exactly are those other players doing
30:13 <Mort-> Which reminds me. Have to try to ask the paracountess of cheliax out
30:28 <Mort-> And tell her she is damning her soul to hell.
30:53 <Mort-> Those fiends are manipulating her for their own ends. Leaving her with the illusion she is in control of them.
31:39 <Mort-> But righteous good characters..
31:52 <Mort-> Too much of it also gives some problems
33:17 <Rafael_017> well there is one session left... there will be a grande finale.. my character will die and hopefully drag the endboss into hell with him....and then my group will have a long talk...
33:48 <Rafael_017> I can play almost all kinds of characters... even though I was really good at playing a semi-villain
33:55 <Mort-> Uh dying well is nice i guess
34:17 <Mort-> There are stupider ways to go
34:44 <Mort-> I like morally questionable characters
34:45 <Mort-> Actually
34:48 <Mort-> :d
35:02 <Mort-> But my forms come in all types
35:12 <Mort-> In pfs you can't play evil anyway
35:37 <Mort-> I think i can ce. But not le
35:56 <Mort-> Oh on the dnd alignment test. I'm lawful neutral :)
36:05 <Mort-> :d
39:34 <Rafael_017> Well my character was cursed... so he tries to find the person who did that and get revenge for his lover and unborn child.... his lover gave her soul to prevent my char to transform into the demon,, but the process has only be slowed down. In the process of tracking his nemesis he killed dark mages and twisted ones, raided to obtain magical items which lured dark mages... he was really driven by rage... the only thing that mattered was revenge. His
41:56 <Mort-> What happened to his child
42:06 <Mort-> Can you transform into a demon?
42:14 <Mort-> What are the details of the curse
42:44 * Mort- looks up remove curse. Break enchantment
44:09 <Rafael_017> my character can... but only once by his death. And his child was still not born, but the dark amge wanted the soul of her mother, so h killed them in a brutal ritual, which my chracter had to observe while being  in a cage.    It's how I made my character... the curse can only be lifed by killing the caster
44:25 <Rafael_017> and the GM accepted that^^
44:30 <Mort-> Kill him then
44:45 <Mort-> I wonder how you got out
44:47 <Rafael_017> well he is the endboss... next session he will die...
44:50 <Mort-> Barb?
44:51 <Mort-> Ok
44:53 <Mort-> Charge
45:14 * Mort- wonders whether to ride on rafaels shoulder to watch.
45:23 <Mort-> Again maybe not. Don't want to get roasted
47:30 <Rafael_017> well he will transform into Palrethee (tanar'ri)  with some modyfications.... 
47:37 <Rafael_017> modifications*
47:49 <Rafael_017> -4 on damage, no flaming longsword and such
48:37 <Rafael_017> but transforming into that means that the demon will attack everying in sight, even my group
48:54 <Rafael_017> I really want to see the 3 way battle
53:17 <Mort-> Getting sleepy
53:25 * Mort- gets a scroll of dismissal
53:40 <Mort-> Begone to whatever plane you came from :d
53:59 <Mort-> Oh shit. Sr :(
01:47 <Mort-> Feeling fuzzy
01:59 * Mort- curls her tail around her and goes to sleep
13:06 <Avatar> you don't have a tail
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24:19 <Tashes> Rah!
28:03 <Rafael_017> Hello
55:55 <Avatar> trust tashes
20:13 * Tashes bites Avatar 
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30:13 <Steven> yo
32:47 <S711> What's good.
32:55 <S711> mIRC 7.25, same old.
33:39 <S711> I miss Irssi, but had problems with encoding, since I ran it in Cygwin, in Screen.
34:19 <S711> So when I said something and used symbols like "å" for example, then my sentence wouldn't go through.
19:38 <Mekkis> S711, I use konsole in linux in virtualbox when I'm stuck on a windows machine...
19:44 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+13 Sense Slap
19:44 <diebot> Ausk, Sense Slap: [1d20=1] 14
19:48 <Mort-> Urm
19:55 <Mort-> Nat 1?
19:59 <Ausk> YUP
20:06 <Mort-> Full action run off
20:39 <Mort-> Actually can just 5 ft step back
20:47 <Mort-> And ddoor out
21:34 <Mekkis> Ausk, you presume my caster level isn't that high!
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22:11 <Mekkis> and that I don't have extend spell
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22:21 <Mekkis> or a 3.5e version of persist spell!
22:25 <Mort-> Seriously though
22:30 <Mort-> Who would cast it
22:42 <Ausk> what sanctuary?
22:46 <Mort-> You don't have a cleric or oracle mek.h
22:49 <Ausk> Its a decently useful spell.
23:15 <Mort-> I forget i can ddoor now...
23:30 <Ausk> yeah, go ahead.
24:17 * Mort- flaps wings
24:45 <Mekkis> heh
24:58 <Mekkis> I sent you both the link to the picture on Paizo's site
25:06 <Mekkis> but you both had +R :P
25:53 <Ausk> *cough cough* Chicken shit *cough cough*
26:40 * Mort- shrugs
27:16 <Ausk> so mort... gonna 5ft and ddoor?
29:28 <Ausk> also.... that map looks familiar...
29:33 <Mort-> Y not
29:36 <Mort-> I can't see anything
29:40 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+10 ranged, flat-footed touch attack at Ausk 
29:40 <diebot> Mekkis, ranged, flat-footed touch attack at Ausk: [1d20=5] 15
29:54 <Mekkis> oh
29:57 <Mekkis> add +2 to that
30:06 <Ausk> it would miss either way
30:13 <Ausk> !roll 1d20+15 spellcraft
30:14 <dicebot> Ausk, spellcraft: [1d20=18] 33
30:47 <Mekkis> really?
30:54 <Mekkis> how do you manage that?
31:05 <Mekkis> uncanny dodge?
31:22 <Ausk> really.  I can clearly see you because you didnt restealth
31:31 <Mekkis> invisibility?
31:35 <Mekkis> ,greater
31:47 <Ausk> you never cast it! boosh!
32:54 <Avatar> whta are you guys doing
32:59 <Ausk> dicking around mostly
33:10 <Mekkis> Ausk is trying to win against Ghandi
33:17 <Ausk> I was going to go to bed
33:27 <Ausk> but sam woke up, so theres no reason now.
33:29 <Mort-> He bullied me!
33:34 <Mekkis> !findchar Ghandi
33:37 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Ghandi, number: 233( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=233 )
33:43 <Ausk> excuse me.... who slapped who Mort?
33:56 <Mort-> Because you were being rude to him!
34:11 <Mort-> You said you didn't care about his privacy!
34:17 <Mort-> i stand up for my friends!
34:25 * Mort- fluffs up!
34:50 <Avatar> no you don't
34:53 <Avatar> you make them go first all the time
35:04 <Ausk> Oh noes... i dont care about a person ive never met face to face's privacy
35:33 <Mekkis> you become aware that any hostile actions will be met with DIRE CONSEQUENCES!
35:53 <Ausk> mostly i dont care about his privacy, because if he doesnt want to share he doesnt have to you dork!
36:05 <Mort-> I would care about anyones privacy!
36:11 <Ausk> at which point, you slapped me, and i roared at you
36:28 <Ausk> Since then ive made no hostile actions.
36:33 <Mort-> Because you said you didn't care about his privacy
37:01 <Ausk> oh sure, keep running to that excuse... cause its worked so well so far.
38:43 * Mort- fur fluffed
39:34 * Ausk feels satisfied
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40:04 <Steven> Methinks its time for more cherry coke
41:39 <Steven> oh yeah...
41:43 <Steven> its tasty
42:20 <Steven> so... walter just sent me an email.  Told him about how my skull and shackles home brew was a failure to launch due to doucheness from josh
42:32 <Steven> inviting me to a new homebrew he is starting up
42:46 <Steven> His fell apart hardcore, and so he is tired of playing it.
43:12 <Steven> me and him went back and forth creating a pretty bad ass session for his players
43:25 <Steven> guy getting attacked by constructs
43:39 <Steven> party jumps in to save him but alas its one hit too many on him and he dies
44:35 <Steven> Party kills construts on the body they find a key to a shop, a letter, a box(artifact), and a writ of passage onto a boat.
45:40 <Steven> they dont bother reading the letter
46:47 <Steven> some guy shows up, says give me the box /insult /insult /insult, they hand the guy the box, buy passage on a boat and leave the area.
46:52 <Hydrazine> Maybe if it was a +1 letter.
47:34 <Steven> the didnt ask around town to find out who the guy was
48:04 <Steven> they put like zero effort into ti
48:35 <Steven> so walter was like well if you guys dont want to play, /end Homebrew
48:55 <Steven> and they were like no we want to play, we want to play
49:23 <Steven> but i guess its been like that for two weeks.
49:24 <Mort-> That's why for homebrews i let people take lead
49:41 <Mort-> People have done stuff like that more then i have
49:44 <Steven> they just phone it in on the roleplaying part and just rush into combat.
49:55 <Mort-> I still have a lot of hack and slash left on me
50:11 <Hydrazine> Well, different strokes for different folks and all, aslong as everyone's on the same page.
50:34 <Hydrazine> It sounds like the DM and the players want different kinds of games.
51:01 <Steven> no, the home brew was going on for around 3-4 months
52:04 <Steven> and before this they had been on top of it, but the last two weeks they just been like /minimum effort
52:30 <Mort-> Maybe bad day in rl?
52:37 <Steven> for 5 people?
52:39 <Mort-> We all have our mood swings
52:49 <Mort-> Try me at 2 am
52:50 <Steven> on 3 seperate days
53:26 <Mort-> I do remember my character was a tad grouchy that session ^^
53:50 <Steven> walter showed me all the content he already had written for the brew, and i would say its very easily paizo Module quality or better
54:15 <Steven> the players just refused to get into it.
54:32 <Steven> they did one encounter in an hour and a half.
55:04 <Steven> walter at the end of it just softballed the end encounter to them and they were just like, Meh, heres the artifact go rule the world.
55:18 <Mort-> Lol
55:50 <Mort-> Xyn will give it to the temple of sarenrae for safe keeping
55:51 <Mort-> :d
56:15 <Steven> because the BBEG he had set up was not supposed to come to them, they were supposed to follow some clues, had some interesting combats and finally a dungeon crawl to end boss
56:21 <Mort-> Mort would bring the artifact to her tower to do research on it
56:37 <Mort-> I think I'm slow at picking up clues
56:41 <Mekkis> so there was a lack of motivation
56:43 <Steven> but they were waiting in town for 3 days waiting for a ship to come in
56:56 <Steven> yeah complete lack of motivation.
57:03 <Steven> for 3 sessions.
57:13 <Mekkis> is that completely the player's fault?
57:13 <Steven> so he just ended it.
57:17 <Mort-> Again one thing is pfs is generally combat heavy and not so much into picking up clues and stuff
57:51 <Mort-> Generally ask vc what do you know about the region. Mission
58:12 <Mort-> Ok people lets pack bags and move out'
58:17 <Steven> I would say Majority of it on the players, i read the content he had, and what they had done before
58:30 <Steven> and it was fairly enguaging
59:07 <Steven> then the last week when i was helping him, we had a fairly large web of clues drawn out
59:23 <Steven> so they could pretty much do anything and it would get them somewhere else
59:42 <Steven> EXCEPT for just being like meh dude got killed, we got a cool box, lets wait for ship to come into town and then leave
00:59 <Hydrazine> Not quite as blatantly trying to get out of a campaign as selling all your worldly possessions and buying plane tickets to Russia.. but pretty bad.
01:00 <Steven> Anyways point being, Walter invited me to participate in the new homebrew he is making.  Woot woot!
01:20 <Hydrazine> Which I did in a game once. My god that was terrible.
01:36 <Mekkis> I should start a homebrew again
01:40 <Urist> !throw 1d20+1 initative; 
01:41 <diebot> Urist, initative: [1d20=19] 20
01:44 <Steven> since my home brew failed, his home brew failed
01:47 <Urist> HELLO!
01:51 <Urist> :)
01:57 <Mort-> Hi
02:00 <Steven> so hes like well, lets start a new one up, since you're no longer busy, you can play in mine
02:02 <Urist> hey mort
02:05 <Mort-> How was your weekend
02:12 <Urist> really good
02:16 <Mort-> I had a bad night
02:20 <Urist> i am not level 2
02:24 <Mort-> :d
02:25 <Mort-> Aw
02:29 <Urist> sorry to hear that :(
02:29 <Steven> He knows I will at least push things in interesting directions
02:40 <Mort-> How did coze die
02:55 <Urist> the first gm was an ass
02:59 <Mort-> It was too hot
03:05 <Urist> he was like, i dont like the pig
03:05 <Mort-> As in?
03:15 <Steven> Also, has anyone checked out the ARG?
03:23 <Mort-> Muslim?
03:28 <Steven> Humans... most powerful race EVER
03:38 <Hydrazine> Advanced races? No, haven't seen it yet.
03:41 <Urist> so i will use death touch on it, "whats the pigs touch"
03:58 <Steven> dude they can give up their bonus feat for another +2 in an ability score
04:02 <Hydrazine> But I am taking a peek at might of the Magus, and some of it seems like it might be absolutely ridiculous.
04:05 <Hydrazine> whaaat?
04:10 <Steven> i know right?
04:46 <Urist> well its just me moaning, what happened?
05:04 <Mort-> How do monsters even have death touch
05:06 <Mort-> At 1?
05:15 <Urist> no he used it on it
05:20 <Mort-> First its touch ac.
05:35 <Mort-> Then probably a fort/will save
05:54 <Urist> by a magic orc that appeared from nowhere
05:54 <Mort-> Yeah
06:09 <Mort-> Jerus could have started with 22 str
06:16 <Mort-> If the arg was to be believed
06:21 <Steven> no
06:30 <Mort-> Not?
06:37 <Mort-> I didn't really read that in detail
06:40 <Steven> its +2 in an ability score, and +2 in another ability score
06:41 <Urist> i just think its bs, but apart from that it was good
06:45 <Steven> wait wait, what happened?
06:49 <Mort-> But what did they write about magi
06:54 * Mort- ears perk up
07:42 <Urist> yeah, an orc used death touch on the pig
07:57 <Mekkis> don't worry
08:06 <Mekkis> humans are still stupid and short-lived
08:44 <Hydrazine> Monks would certainly appreciate an extra +2 on top of a point buy.
09:12 <Hydrazine> How about longbowing spell combat with rapid shot, Mort?
09:16 <Steven> why?
10:24 <Urist> cause we were fighting him, well actually he appeared from nowhere
10:52 <Mort-> Ouch
10:55 <Urist> we werre fighting 3 other orcs
10:59 <Mort-> Id ask for fort save
11:02 <Urist> yeah i know
11:06 <Mort-> Orcs are bad
11:10 <Mort-> It means you need a mymridach
11:16 <Steven> no i mean why did it kill a pig?
11:19 <Hydrazine> Or just a couple feats.
11:24 <Mort-> One killed the doodads dinosaur with 1 blow
11:29 <Mort-> In our home game
11:30 <Mort-> now if only gambit wasn't stuck with cards...
11:32 <Mort-> No 
11:46 <Mort-> We immediately decided we had a pressing engagement elsewhere
11:47 <Urist> thats sickening mort :(
11:48 <Mort-> Mymridach lets you use ranged shocking grasp
11:56 <Mort-> Ran off leaving our tails behind :d
11:59 <Hydrazine> Heres one. Use weapon's crit modifier for spellstrikes. All the magi switch to light picks..
12:03 <Mort-> Lol
12:09 <Mort-> I'm still trying to figure out if it works for duration melee touch
12:12 <Mort-> We ran really fast
12:19 <Mort-> You won't crit
12:20 <Urist> haha
12:27 <Mort-> Keen has limitations hydra.
12:41 <Hydrazine> No.
12:49 <Hydrazine> I mean critting x4 on a shocking grasp.
12:55 <Mort-> Though you can say any magus will have his weapon "permanently keened" past 5
13:05 <Mort-> Its the trying to crit part
13:09 <Mort-> Discretion is the better part of valour
13:18 <Urist> true
13:30 <Mort-> The reason why every magus ends up with a scimitar is the range
13:49 <Mort-> If i were doing skulls and shackles type adventure
13:52 <Hydrazine> Think this would change if they had an option to go for the modifier instead?
14:01 <Mort-> I would switch to cutlass
14:04 <Mort-> I think not.
14:26 <Mort-> Pig. I say the gm is muslim ::
14:27 <Mort-> Most people on the boards voted for bigger range opposed to higher crit mod
14:29 <Mort-> P
14:36 <Mort-> Or doesn't like animal companions
14:59 <Urist> haha i actually loled, i have nothing against muslims but that was funny :P
15:06 <Mort-> I think it would be cool to fire entangling arrows
15:12 <Mort-> But not sure how to do Thu
15:14 <Mort-> That
15:27 <Urist> i think it might be option 2
15:29 <Mort-> In our case it was a better the dinosaur then us.
15:30 <Mort-> If ranged spell strike worked on frostbite
15:38 <Mort-> The gm crit on that hit
15:41 <Mort-> ><
15:45 <Mort-> You could technically fire entangling arrows
15:52 <Hydrazine> Casting touch spells as AoOs.
15:53 <Urist> oww :(
15:54 <Mort-> Crits at level 1...
16:01 <Urist> fatal
16:05 <Mort-> With a x3 weapon
16:14 <Mort-> ^^
16:18 <Mort-> With the frost bite damage doing once per round 1d6+ caster level
16:32 <Mort-> Time to get prehensile hair hex
16:40 <Mort-> What? You didn't know i had reach?
16:53 * Mort- tail slaps a shocking grasp :p
16:57 <Mort-> Wow cool
17:10 <Steven> Think i might buy the ARG
17:22 <Urist> oh yeah i went up a level :)
17:25 <Hydrazine> Huh. Thats actually kind of cool.
17:30 <Mort-> Personally i love my fuzzy friends
17:32 <Mort-> Grats
17:51 <Urist> thanks, have to udate my char sheet
17:57 <Hydrazine> Metamagic to turn a touch spell into a shield sort of effect that triggers when they hit you.
18:00 <Mort-> If i played a doodad i would have fuzzy friends
18:10 <Mort-> What?
18:16 <Mort-> Explain that
18:37 <Hydrazine> You metamagic shocking grasp with this, go about your day.
18:51 <Hydrazine> stupid orc axes you, gets shocked like woah.
18:58 <Mort-> Oh oh
19:08 <Mort-> If i were a bbeg
19:14 <Mort-> Argh
19:15 <Urist> a lemur :P
19:17 <Mort-> Help.
19:22 <Urist> what?
19:25 <Mort-> I would either use protection from electricity
19:30 <Mort-> Now i have two games i signed up for
19:31 <Mort-> Choose 1
19:35 <Mort-> Oh no
19:50 <Mort-> Or just throw a few mooks at the magus in question to set off the bomb
19:52 <Mort-> I fked up my time zone conversion again
19:53 <Mort-> So to speak
20:12 <Mort-> Then move in
20:24 <Urist> feck, so which ones are they?
20:28 <Mort-> On hit its like defensive shock?
20:31 <Mort-> No saves?
20:35 <Mort-> Only sr?
21:12 <Mort-> Beggars pearl
21:29 <Mort-> And imortal condunem
21:40 <Urist> any vacancies for a level 2 tier?
21:55 <Mort-> Beggars pearl is probably low level
22:08 <Mort-> So its like do i want to play my wizard
22:13 <Urist> cool, might actually play that tonight
22:14 <Mort-> Or my syn
22:18 <Mort-> Ah
22:21 <Urist> yeah :)
22:36 * Hydrazine reads.
22:40 <Mort-> What did you name coze's replacement
22:58 <Hydrazine> Spell goes off as normal. If its a spell with multiple charges it lasts for that many hits.
23:11 <Mort-> Kaboom.
23:23 <Urist> Coze 2 haha
23:23 <Mort-> Hear that bbegs?
23:30 <Mort-> Ok :(
23:34 <Urist> or Volack
23:38 <Mort-> Ok
23:44 <Urist> yeah that sounds better
23:47 <Mort-> Ill call him volack
23:52 <Mort-> :d
24:06 * Mort- scratches volack behind the ears
24:50 <Urist> *volack squaels with delight
25:17 <Urist> squeels
25:24 <Mort-> :d
25:36 * Mort- tosses volack an apple
26:32 <Urist> and its gone in a blink of an eye
27:57 <Mort-> :d
28:15 <Mort-> Have to choose
28:31 <Mort-> Anyway last game
28:42 <Mort-> Hydra nearly got eaten by large spiders
28:58 <Urist> wow, was he Jerus?
28:59 <Mort-> I hid behind and stayed a sneakymur!
29:08 <Urist> haha
29:25 <Mort-> What happened at the convention
29:46 <Urist> i went with a couple of people from college
30:09 <Urist> got 120 magic cards for £2.50
30:11 <Mort-> No
30:15 <Mort-> Hokubi
30:17 <Mort-> His monk
30:18 <Urist> no?
30:22 <Mort-> I stopped playing
30:24 <Urist> oh ok
30:31 <Mort-> As in he was in monk form
30:54 <Mort-> Jerus would have a lovely time last scenario
31:11 <Mort-> Cleave. Cleaving finish. Keep cleaving :p
31:19 <Urist> haha
31:59 <Mort-> But oh well
32:12 <Mort-> So the convention again?
32:17 <Mort-> Bought magic cards
32:20 <Mort-> Then?
33:15 <Mort-> ?
33:24 * Mort- tail taps excitedly
35:28 * Mort- tail twitches
36:34 <Urist> went to a japanese restuarant
36:49 <Urist> and got sake :)
37:47 <Mort-> Ok
37:51 <Hydrazine> howdy Urist
37:53 <Mort-> I don't approve of drinking
38:08 * Mort- nips urist :p
38:14 <Mort-> Hi hydra!
38:32 <Urist> Hey hydra :), sorry to hear that but its my choice if i do
38:40 <Mort-> True.
38:54 <Mort-> I'm quirky that way
38:54 <Hydrazine> I like sak.
38:56 <Hydrazine> Sake.
39:09 <Hydrazine> Yeah, Hoku almost got munched by spiders, but overall it worked out pretty well.
39:22 <Hydrazine> Considering our two spellcasters were sitting ducks stuck in web.
39:42 <Hydrazine> And the spiders were playing around with me instead of going to town on them
39:55 <Mort-> Well if the place wasn't flammable id set the webs alight
40:09 <Mort-> No mind affecting so no colour spray anyway
40:12 <Urist> ah, that was good in a way cause they were defenceless
40:16 <Mort-> Sux to be me
40:19 <Hydrazine> But I almost feel sorry for the DM on that first fight.
40:24 <Mort-> Oh yes
40:26 <Hydrazine> He couldn't do a damn thing.
40:31 <Mort-> We pwned them
40:39 <Hydrazine> It was terrible, Urist.
40:46 <Mort-> Actually there is a way
40:55 <Mort-> If i were there i would cut the year
40:59 <Mort-> Webs
40:59 <Hydrazine> One good web spell caught like 6 of the enemy. And their backup plan was shortbows, which you can't use webbed.
41:02 <Mort-> Or try to
41:27 <Mort-> To be honest we didn't make good ranged fighters
41:34 <Mort-> I wanted to go up to the bad guy
41:35 <Hydrazine> No, we really didn't.
41:49 <Mort-> Point an arrow at his heart at point blank range
41:51 <Mort-> And cdg
42:04 <Mort-> Nice picture :p
42:13 <Hydrazine> Hoku went an entire scenario without pinning anything.
42:19 <Hydrazine> No faces shoved in the dirt.
42:30 <Urist> haha, thats a pity
42:32 <Mort-> Oskar would laugh at us in the first fight
42:34 <Mort-> Big time
42:47 <Hydrazine> IF Oskar was there, he'd be laughing his way to the bank.
42:56 <Mort-> Hey..
43:11 <Mort-> Yeah Archery range
43:15 <Hydrazine> Kick lots of ass, Urist?
43:19 <Mort-> I nearly set the web alight
44:36 <Urist> I did, i was playing Mists of MWangi
44:57 <Urist> alot of undead to smash up with the silver warhammer
45:05 <Hydrazine> I've done that one.
45:05 <Urist> :)
45:18 <Hydrazine> I think Jerus had a blast there.
45:18 <Urist> yeah, what do you think of it?
45:37 <Hydrazine> Cool scene.
45:47 <Urist> without being to specific just incase some havent
45:57 <Urist> yeah i liked it
46:18 <Hydrazine> Mort, whats upcoming, you said? And when?
51:32 <Hydrazine> The bright side is, Urist, Hoku hit 3. 
52:14 <Urist> nice
52:30 <Hydrazine> I just wish my bonus feats didn't suck so hard.
52:47 <Urist> Hydra, what was the name of the feat for Volack at Level 2?
52:54 <Hydrazine> Power attack?
53:01 <Urist> thats the one
53:04 <Urist> thans
53:07 <Urist> thanks
53:11 <Hydrazine> Jerus has it. Uses it to great effect.
53:16 <Hydrazine> Wanna see the difference?
53:22 <Urist> ok
53:23 Hydrazine is now known as Jerus
53:27 <Jerus> @atk
53:27 <diebot> Jerus, attack: [1d20=13] 26; damage: [1d12=2] 12
53:29 <Jerus> @pa
53:30 <diebot> Jerus, power attack: [1d20=4] 17; damage: [1d12=5] 21
53:31 <Mort-> Show off
53:36 Jerus is now known as Hydrazine
53:43 * Mort- flumps
53:45 <Mort-> :p
53:55 <Urist> nice man
54:08 <Urist> if a 17 hit that is
54:11 <Mort-> Its Google groups
54:12 <Hydrazine> My base modifiers are all awkward for Hoku, Mort.
54:27 <Mort-> What do you mean
54:33 <Hydrazine> Base for attacks? 2. For CMBs? 3. For grapple cmd? 3. For other CMDs? 2.
55:36 <Mort-> You have wep finesse and agile maneuvers right?
55:42 <Hydrazine> Mhm.
55:47 <Mort-> And seriously just go get a wand of mage armor
55:49 <Mort-> Ill help
55:50 <Hydrazine> And now, turtle style I think.
55:56 <Mort-> All my characters can umd
56:00 <Mort-> If nothing else
56:09 <Mort-> Include grull ^^
56:24 <Hydrazine> Because Turtle Clutch by 5 will be sweet/
56:27 <Mort-> Some of us do it like pros
56:34 <Mort-> Miss and get grabbed :d
56:45 <Hydrazine> Though I think I'd take it chokehold at 7 probably, and not turtle shell.
56:48 <Mort-> Oh wait. No grabbing hydra
56:52 <Hydrazine> Turtle shell is just defenses really.
57:17 <Hydrazine> It also makes him harder to get away from
57:18 <Mort-> I shall dub thee as grabby turtle!
57:31 <Mort-> hi grabby turtle!
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57:50 <Mort-> Should i play mort or xyn
58:06 <Mort-> I accidentally signed up for 2 games on the same time slot
58:07 <Hydrazine> But the -4 to hostile confirm rolls is kinda cool I guess.
58:21 <Mort-> Ooh
58:23 <Hydrazine> I mean, it probably won't come up every day, but it seems like something that might really matter when it does.
59:03 <Mort-> That's why people put fortification on their armor
59:10 <Mort-> I heard that ddo online
59:25 <Mort-> You're supposed to get fortification on your armor by level 10
59:32 <Mort-> Or get pwned
00:36 <Mort-> There's is a magus who went blind fight moonlight stalker line
00:59 <Mort-> I wonder how you actually turn on your concealment without your allies bitching about it
01:21 <Mort-> I mean most monsters can see in the dark better then you can
01:49 <Mort-> And if you used obscuring mist wouldn't your allies yell all kinds of swear words?
02:27 <Mort-> Alternatively you could try the smoke stick trick
02:44 <Hydrazine> 19 AC now.
03:31 <Mort-> Nice
03:49 <Mort-> Btw grabby turtle
04:01 <Mort-> Did you play the witcher?
05:02 <Urist> mort when is the Beggars pearl supposed to begin?
05:03 <Hydrazine> no.
06:08 <Mort-> My time Sunday 11 am
06:20 <Mort-> Ah the final scene was nice
06:48 <Urist> oh so yesterday?
06:49 <Mort-> Bad guy: "but this sword is for monsters"
06:54 <Mort-> No
06:58 <Mort-> This coming week
07:08 <Urist> oh, 
07:11 <Mort-> Probably 4 am on sat for you
07:29 <Mort-> Hero runs him through with the sword
07:33 <Urist> 3 am
07:38 <Mort-> Ah ok
07:48 <Urist> but thanks anyway
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09:00 <mortswishytail> If i play mort
09:17 <mortswishytail> There will be an even bigger level gap between her and the rest of the channel
09:36 <Hydrazine> Yeah...
09:42 <mortswishytail> Again if i don't play mort because of that i must as well forget playing her
09:51 <mortswishytail> What a problem
09:57 <mortswishytail> I have to choose
10:08 <Hydrazine> Remind me when its closer to game time?
10:14 <Hydrazine> Maybe I'll try and get in.
10:14 <mortswishytail> You?
10:17 <mortswishytail> Ok
10:24 <mortswishytail> There are 2 games
10:40 <mortswishytail> On the same time
11:25 <mortswishytail> Immars is running imortal condruneum at 5-9
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11:44 <mortswishytail> And balgin is running beggars pearl at probably lower level
11:58 <mortswishytail> I have to choose which one i want to play
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14:55 <Mort-> Btw hydra. What do you think about ghoul touch
15:02 <Mort-> I'm thinking of getting a reach rod
15:11 <Mort-> Then drop ghoul touch
15:20 <Mort-> Dc will be 17
15:25 <Mort-> Fort save
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17:58 <Urist> alright im off to bed, talk to you later
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19:41 <Mort-> Aw
22:13 <Hydrazine> Hmm.
22:23 <Hydrazine> I'll consider this ghoul touch thing
22:50 <Mort-> Um, no. It's the problem of people buying into Paizo's Big Lie and saying "ooh, goblins are evil, they can't be paladins," when, in fact, goblins are full of love and compassion and generosity.
23:13 <Mort-> I believe them. Goblins can be paladins!
23:51 <Mort-> They love fire. Are passionate (see goblins sometimes mix passionate and compassionate) about things that go kablooey and are generous with their 'splosions.
23:51 <Mort-> This one is true too
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19:21 <Hydrazine> I'm eyeballing rope tricks, Mort.
19:54 <Hydrazine> Think a -5 to Hoku's CMB will be severe later on?
34:00 <Mort-> Rope tricks!
34:24 * Mort- fetches hydra 50ft silk rope. Black of course.
35:10 <Hydrazine> Just for an example, whats Kalara's cmd?
35:50 <Hydrazine> Or rather, cmd -2.
36:12 <Mort-> 16
36:33 <Mort-> No she doesnt like being tied up
37:05 <Hydrazine> !throw 1d20+7
37:05 <diebot> Hydrazine, 1d20+7: [1d20=18] 25
37:13 <Mort-> No crating please
37:15 <Hydrazine> Well, ofcourse with an 18..
37:21 <Mort-> Cmb break or attempt to
37:38 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+4
37:38 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+4: [1d20=14] 18
37:46 <Hydrazine> 29 DC. Good luck.
38:14 <Hydrazine> Including specifically that nat 20s don't mean anything special.
38:18 <Mort-> What am i supposed to do
38:20 <Mort-> :(
38:29 <Mort-> I'm a tinymur
38:29 <Hydrazine> I think I'm replacing choke hold with rope trick.
38:50 <Hydrazine> Why bother trying to pin big targets. Just rope 'em up and call it a day.
39:15 <Mort-> I need to check
39:21 <Hydrazine> Especially since in a level, its pretty much no penalty.
39:23 <Mort-> Can they get a claw free?
39:37 <Hydrazine> tied up is tied up. Helpless condition.
40:05 <Mort-> Link me the feat
40:11 <Mort-> i can't see it
41:35 <Mort-> Its not fair you can tie me up in knots :(
41:36 <Hydrazine> Its not on the site. Or rather, I can't find it.
41:41 <Mort-> Yeah
41:45 <Mort-> So i can't see it
41:52 <Mort-> Paste it for me then
42:17 <Hydrazine> Hogtie  (Improved  Grapple):  When  you  attempt  to  tie 
42:17 <Hydrazine> up an opponent you are grappling, your penalty is only –5 
42:17 <Hydrazine> instead of the normal –10
42:27 <Mort-> That inquisitor will love hokku
43:02 <Mort-> Hoku is a prefect crating buddy
43:32 <Mort-> Except you don't approve of crating do you :p
45:25 <Hydrazine> This greatly changes my thoughts of where Hoku might be going.
45:56 <Hydrazine> Dropping tied fools to the floor in a single round and moving on, sounds like a good way to end an encounter.
45:58 <Mort-> Your tying people up?
46:08 <Mort-> How much penalty
46:15 <Mort-> Lol
46:21 <Mort-> How do you do it exactly
46:28 <Mort-> Show the steps one by one
46:37 <Mort-> You can tie me up i suppose
47:33 <Hydrazine> Step 1. Grab as normal.
47:59 <Mort-> Ouch. I got grabbed
48:13 <Hydrazine> Thats a standard action.
48:17 <Mort-> But if i get grabbed i can forget about breaking free right?
48:27 <Mort-> Ok
48:31 <Mort-> Next step?
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49:16 <Hydrazine> So, since controlling a grapple, +5 to further grapple attempts.
49:25 <Mort-> Correct
50:05 <Hydrazine> step 2. Roll a grapple check at to tie up. -5 penalty balances against the +5 I just gained.
50:16 <Hydrazine> So effectively, same roll as before against a lower DC, since you lost dex.
50:37 <Hydrazine> Step 3, laugh my way to the bank.
51:05 <Hydrazine> Somewhere in there I'd need to spend a move action to get a rope out. Or take the first roll at -4.
51:11 <Hydrazine> Which may not be that terrible later on.
54:05 <Hydrazine> Woah. You only roll once for greater grapple. I never noticed that.
54:54 <Hydrazine> Man, now I'm upset they took out twin lock.
59:06 <Hydrazine> I think Mr. Danielewski writes books that simply do not work on today's e-readers.
01:47 <Mort-> What?
01:52 <Mort-> But its 2 turns?
05:28 <Mort-> Concentration check on casting while tied up?
23:25 <Hydrazine> Currently 2 turns. It'll get faster.
24:09 <Hydrazine> Not 100% on that. I think, to start, you can't perform somatics or get out materials.
24:44 <Hydrazine> See, the issue is, tied up says "This works like a pin effect" then goes on to discuss escape DCs.
26:09 <Hydrazine> It doesn't say anything specific about spellcasting. So if you use the pin rules for it, do you use the person's CMB or the rope's escape DC?
26:33 <Hydrazine> Its CMB+spell level+ either 10 or 20, depending on how you rule it.
27:32 <Mort-> Sla still require concentration checks?
27:37 <Hydrazine> Yes.
27:54 <Mort-> Lets say we have this demon with an immolation aura
28:09 <Mort-> he sprouts flame from his body at will
28:19 <Mort-> Not too unbelievable really
28:49 <Mort-> What's your cmb
29:13 <Hydrazine> Currently? 9. Not bad for a level 3.
31:42 <Mort-> I have no idea how to rate concentration for special abilities
32:00 <Hydrazine> is it SU or SP?
32:09 <Mort-> Sla?
32:17 <Hydrazine> Then compare it to the actual spell.
32:25 <Mort-> After we figure sla. Then move it to su
32:47 <Mort-> Though su i think would fit immolation better
33:02 <Hydrazine> If its a supernatural ability, its not spell like, and grappling doesn't phase it.
35:00 <Hydrazine> For example, if Hoku grappled a paladin, he can lay on hands just fine. For himself anyway.
36:35 <Mort-> Ah
37:06 <Hydrazine> Clerics channeling is only different because they have to be able to present the holy symbol to do it.
37:21 <Mort-> Unless you have a birthmark :d
37:28 <Mort-> Even so you have to reach it
38:01 <Hydrazine> But a grappled, not pinned cleric, with his holy symbol in hand, can channel just fine.
41:02 <Hydrazine> So yeah, I like Hoku. Stunning Pin's really my only complaint.
41:31 <Hydrazine> That, and the fact that I had to use a dex focused point buy and awkward feats to make him decent offensive and defensively.
41:53 * Mort- likes hoku too
42:05 <Mort-> Who ever drinks medicine before they get sick :p
42:10 <Mort-> Well mort did
44:29 <Mort-> That was funny
44:50 <Mort-> About beating the spirit of spider venom
48:38 <Hydrazine> The same way you take an antidote before you even get poisoned.
53:05 <MekkisScreen> hydra, remind me to have a ring of spell-storing (gaseous form) when dealing with you
53:53 <Hydrazine> How is it activated?
54:12 <MekkisScreen> verbal (command), I think
54:28 <MekkisScreen> could be mental (command)
54:44 <Hydrazine> I'll put chokehold higher on my priority list then.
54:54 <Mort-> When dealing with casties. Strip them stark naked.
55:28 <MekkisScreen> mort's been reading the boards again
55:31 <Hydrazine> Howdy, Mekkis.
55:36 <MekkisScreen> moin
56:02 <Mort-> It appeared in one of the stories i read. The evil sorceror was about to focus his energies on his ring to break free
56:05 <Hydrazine> I learned today, Mek, that when making multiple grapple rolls in one round, you only need to succeed one to keep the victim there.
56:06 <MekkisScreen> Itzamna will massacre hoku :)
56:40 <Mort-> Then the ranger (or as far as i can translate)
56:55 <Mort-> Went thank you ill have that. And took the ring off
56:57 <Mort-> Vol
56:59 <Mort-> Lol
57:33 <Mort-> Mek.
57:41 <Mort-> That didn't come from the boards
57:48 <Mort-> It came from a story book
58:47 <Mort-> I don't understand why i don't have bard levels :(
00:58 <Hydrazine> Because you're a wizard?
03:02 <Mort-> I don't even have wizard levels ffs
03:15 <Mort-> Ranger/sorc
12:34 <MekkisScreen> I need to read grapple
13:09 <MekkisScreen> I still think it's "mostly pointless"
13:54 <MekkisScreen> aagainst anyone who is not a full caster
14:33 <MekkisScreen> maybe I'm prejudioced byplaying a lot of full casters
15:36 <Mort-> It hurts
15:36 <MekkisScreen>  
15:54 <Mort-> Even if you are melee you can't break free
17:30 <MekkisScreen>  but you can still full-attack
19:17 <MekkisScreen>  so if you have four claws and a bite....
22:39 <Hydrazine> Wrong. Can only full attack one handed.
24:14 <Mort-> So i would be down to one bite and a claw
24:15 <Hydrazine> And grappled is only a small step away from pinned. Even strong melee don't like pinned.
24:31 <Mort-> Next turn i can't attack at all because he tied me up :(
26:15 <Mort-> Though xyns get out of grapple free card would just to be scaring her attacker
29:51 <MekkisScreen> What?
30:02 <MekkisScreen> natural weapons are all one-handed
30:14 <MekkisScreen> so you can full attack with each attack
30:41 <Mort-> Ya so bite and claw
30:50 <MekkisScreen> 4 claws
30:51 <Mort-> Instead of bite claw claw
31:04 <Mort-> No i only have 3 attacks to begin with
31:13 <Mort-> Grapple drops it by 1
31:28 <Hydrazine> http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderRPG/rules/archives/grappleYupAgain&page=2#80
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53:25 <Hydrazine> still say mostly pointless, Mek?
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00:43 * Mort- nibbles the mek
01:19 <Hydrazine> Jerus would get smoked by a good grappler.
03:50 <Mort-> Thats why you need to wear a cestus
04:16 <Mort-> Xyn has a weird defense vs grapplers
04:19 <MekkisScreen> I don't see where it drops it by one
04:22 <Mort-> Slash back.
04:41 <Hydrazine> The part where you only get to use one hand.
04:41 <Mort-> And make grappler run
05:07 <Mort-> If you're frightened you have to get away from whatever frightened you right?
05:09 <Mort-> :p
05:11 <MekkisScreen> <?grappled
05:11 <diebot> A grappled creature is restrained by a creature, trap, or effect. Grappled creatures cannot move and take a 4 penalty to Dexterity. A grappled creature takes a 2 penalty on all attack rolls and combat maneuver checks, except those made to grapple or escape a grapple. In addition, grappled creatures can take no action
05:12 <diebot> that requires two hands to perform. A grappled character who attempts to cast a spell or use a spell-like ability must make a concentration check (DC 10 + grappler's CMB + spell level), or lose the spell. Grappled creatures cannot make attacks of opportunity. // A grappled creature cannot use Stealth to hide from the
05:12 <diebot> creature grappling it, even if a special ability, such as hide in plain sight, would normally allow it to do so. If a grappled creature becomes invisible, through a spell or other ability, it gains a +2 circumstance bonus on its CMD to avoid being grappled, but receives no other benefit.
05:44 <Hydrazine> " In addition, grappled creatures can take no action
05:44 <Hydrazine> <diebot> that requires two hands to perform."
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11:43 <Mort-> Oh dear mek
12:30 <Hydrazine> Think you're right about cestus. Considering spiked gauntlet instead.
14:54 <Hydrazine> Did you know, Mort, that with iterative attacks, if you're holding two weapons, you can use either one without penalty?
15:23 <Mort-> Oh!
15:53 <Mort-> But you can wear a spiked gauntlet while using your polearm
15:55 <Mort-> I think
16:12 <Mort-> Its casting that's debatable
16:20 <Hydrazine> Aslong as you aren't trying to take more attacks than you're iterative bab allows, you don't suffer twf penalties.
16:46 <Mort-> Ok so you wear a spiked gaunt on your left
17:04 <Mort-> And use a longsword on your right
17:08 <Mort-> Level 5 fighter
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17:42 <Mort-> You can slash with your longsword then punch him in the face with spiked gaunt?
17:59 <Mort-> Which one gets the -5 bab - your choice?
19:41 <Hydrazine> Yes.
19:47 <Hydrazine> level 6, Mort.
19:53 <Hydrazine> Level 5 is only one attack.
22:32 <Mort-> Ah cool!
22:57 <Mort-> Nice to learn new things
23:48 <Mort-> How many monsters do you think at level 5 and above have a 10 ft reach?
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24:35 <Mort-> But i think its safe to say at level 5 - they all have range weapons?
42:01 <Ballig> Mort-: almost anything that is bigger than medium will have reach
42:31 <Mort-> But how many large things do you see past 5?
42:38 <Mort-> That's the question.
42:42 <Ballig> most if it not all
45:01 <Mort-> That justifies big game hunter feat
45:19 <Mort-> And makes lunge less useful
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46:27 <Ballig> how does it make it less useful
47:28 <Mort-> The point of lunge was to hit the monster where he can't hit you aback
47:31 <Ballig> lunge would let you walk up, stop just before you would usually provoke an AOO, and then attack them from reach you don't normally possess
47:44 <Ballig> also keep in mind that it extends your reach by 5 feet - you could have a reach of 10 feet with a reach weapon, and extend that to 15 with lunge
47:46 <Mort-> If they are all large they still get to slap you silly
48:22 <Ballig> that's not the POINT of lunge. it's one use of lunge
48:37 <Ballig> and is still possible if you are using lunge + reach weapon
48:42 <Mort-> Well that was the one i was eyeing
48:58 <Mort-> It is pretty unlikely i will use a reach weapon
49:58 <Mort-> The -2 for ac will hurt if monster can hit you still
50:48 <Ballig> you're never invulnerable
50:57 <Ballig> even if you're attacking from reach all they have to do is take a step
51:09 <Mort-> Not unless they can fly...
51:16 <Mort-> Ill have my wings soon
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02:15 <Hydrazine> I don't think I'm all that fond of lunge really.
02:26 <Hydrazine> Because it only works on your turn, and limits you to a single attack.
02:40 <Mort-> Yeah i think ill probably get a bec de corbin
02:49 <Mort-> In the usual tradition
02:54 <Hydrazine> Why?
02:57 <Hydrazine> For who?
02:58 <Mort-> Then poke people from the sky
03:01 <Ballig> it doesn't limit you to 1 attack
03:06 <Mort-> Because i can fly :p
03:15 <Mort-> I believe i can fly
03:22 <Mort-> I believe i can touch the sky
03:24 <Ballig> in fact the description leaves open the opportunity for multiple attacks
03:31 <Mort-> Dream about it every night and day
03:40 <Mort-> Spread my wings and fly away
04:32 <Mort-> Who else.. hydra..who else :d
04:57 <Hydrazine> Crazy witchy magi.
05:09 <Hydrazine> Fair enough, Ballig.
05:11 * Mort- grows a pair of wings
05:23 <Hydrazine> Personal preference then, I guess.
05:30 <Mort-> Uh hydra. Are they feathery or bat like
05:37 * Hydrazine shrugs.
05:45 <Ballig> I don't necessarily like it either, because -2 AC is a bitch of a penalty
05:49 <Ballig> but I can see its uses
06:07 <Ballig> I think if you want extra reach you're better off enlarging
06:18 <Hydrazine> Get alot more reach that way too.
06:20 <Mort-> Its one fking round :d
06:22 <Mort-> Heh
06:31 <Mort-> Sure one day you'll see me fly
06:40 <Hydrazine> I think Salvanar's got a pretty cool approach. I'd like to see it in action.
06:43 <Mort-> Second round. Wait. Enlarging self!
06:50 <Hydrazine> Enlarged Salv sounds pretty dominating.
06:55 <Mort-> Third round. Ok lets get to business
07:03 <Mort-> He doesn't like enlarge
07:20 <Mort-> He figures if 15 ft combat patrol doesn't cover it
07:22 <Mort-> Nothing does
07:26 <Ballig> the trait for move-action drinking potions, and potion of enlarge
07:26 <Ballig> bam
07:46 <Mort-> Quick drinker
07:52 <Mort-> Still you need pot out
08:06 <Ballig> you sure do
08:08 <Mort-> Nah
08:21 <Mort-> I shall take a bec de corbin
08:32 <Mort-> And poke people from the sky
08:42 <Hydrazine> And get shot down
08:56 <Mort-> That one yes
09:06 <Mort-> But take 3 attacks or take 1
09:13 <Mort-> Id rather take 1
09:34 <Ballig> so you're investing in the Fly skill?
09:42 <Mort-> Sure!
09:48 <Ballig> and why is it 3 vs 1 attack?
09:52 <Ballig> you can get multiple ranged attacks
10:04 <Ballig> in fact, you can get multiple ranged attacks easier than you can get multiple melee attacks
10:06 <Mort-> Bite claw claw
10:27 <Ballig> anyway, by the time you can fly, expect your enemies to have a way around that
10:35 <Mort-> Its harder to add damage mods on a ranged weapon unless you use throwing
11:28 <Hydrazine> Hey Ballig, do you say 'free weapon draw as part of a movement action' could apply to rope?
11:29 <Mort-> At 5 i can fly
11:37 <Ballig> nope
11:51 <Ballig> unless you have a rope sheath, then I might consider it
11:57 <Hydrazine> But its a weaponlike object in the right hands!
12:06 <Mort-> There is such a thing?
12:11 <Mort-> rope sheathe?
12:13 <MekkisScreen> or the equipment trick feath
12:15 <Ballig> no :p
12:18 <MekkisScreen> feat*
12:25 <Hydrazine> A whip's a weapon, with a rather ropelike shape.
12:50 <Mort-> Sorry hydra. I wouldn't recommend that you can put a rope in a spring loaded wrist sheathe
13:02 <Hydrazine> I would agree with this.
13:05 <Mort-> That one stretches my imagination even
13:19 <Ballig> a whip has a handle
13:39 <Mort-> You grab one end of the rope
13:44 <Hydrazine> But I don't see why its unreasonable to have a 20ft length of rope hung through your belt, for easy access to those who like roping stuff.
13:46 <Mort-> Its got a handle too!
13:58 <Mort-> Only problem is the length
14:04 <Ballig> how do you attach it yet allow it to remain easy access
14:13 <Ballig> is it velcroed to your belt
14:28 <Hydrazine> Coil it up, fold the coil in half over your belt.
14:37 <Mort-> Weapon cords!
14:42 * Mort- gets creative
14:59 <MekkisScreen> it IS your belt!
15:04 <Ballig> I don't see a readily available way to attach it so that it doesn't fall off from normal movement, while remaining easy enough to detach as to be a free action
15:11 <Hydrazine> Hang it on a sword pommel.
15:19 <Ballig> ha, through your pant belt loops?
15:23 <MekkisScreen> yeah
15:32 <MekkisScreen> you've seen judo belts, right?
15:39 <Hydrazine> They're like 12 feet long.
15:40 <MekkisScreen> you could tie someone up with one easily
15:46 <Ballig> I want to see the aftermath
15:48 <MekkisScreen> and remove one easily
15:51 <MekkisScreen> heh
16:07 <Hydrazine> YOu don't think hanging a coil over a belt is feasable?
16:11 <MekkisScreen> the aftermath?
16:20 <Hydrazine> Find an extension cord or something and a belt, give it a shot.
16:21 <MekkisScreen> a +2 bonus to escape artist checks
16:27 <MekkisScreen> (of course, you're naked after that)
16:41 <Hydrazine> Or just get pants that fit.
16:41 <Ballig> yeah, I want to see how he deals with his pants falling down mid-move
17:04 <Mort-> Its funny!
17:15 * Mort- giggles
17:33 <Hydrazine> When I was in uniform, I had to wear a belt. Even though the tailors sized my pants too tight, and too high...
17:58 <Hydrazine> Just because you're wearing a belt doesn't mean your pants have to be loose.
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18:17 <Mort-> Oh your wearing a rope belt?g
18:19 <Mort-> !
18:26 <Mort-> That's so cool!
18:37 <Hydrazine> No, I still rather just hang it over a belt. I don't see what unreasonable about this.
18:43 <Hydrazine> Or hang a coil over a sword handle.
18:59 <Ballig> because if it's that easy to remove, it'll come off from normal movement
19:32 <Ballig> and by this point you will have people asking "well, why can't I remove a potion as a free action too?" etc
19:37 <Mort-> Sword handle might fall off
19:54 <Mort-> But hanging it over your belt to me is fine
19:58 <Ballig> see, we're not talking about quick draw here where you're willing to allow a bit of flexibility because someone has actually taken a feat
20:03 <Ballig> we're talking about everyone with a +1 BAB
20:27 <Hydrazine> Does quick draw change your attitude in this?
20:33 <Ballig> it may
20:37 <Hydrazine> Fair enough.
21:16 <Mort-> Then hoku gets quickdraw? :p
21:31 <Hydrazine> Do you think a tied up spellcaster suffers concentration checks, assuming hes casting something he doesn't need to move for?
22:24 <Mort-> Oh mekkis
22:51 <Mort-> I wonder how myz casts anything with material components with shadow projection on
23:02 <Mort-> I think its weird
23:32 <Mort-> If you can't touch real things how do you take out your feather for hideous laughter
24:55 <Mort-> Well unless you have eschew materials feat. Then nothing to say
33:00 <Avatar> I thought he wasn't using shadow projection after he saw how ridiculous overpowered it was
33:15 <Avatar> am I thinking of a different spell
33:46 <Mort-> He used it before
33:58 <Mort-> I was thinking on how to melee with shadow projection on
34:00 <Mort-> For fun
34:03 <Avatar> yeah, in one scenario, to see how well it worked
34:17 <Avatar> is this the one where you become a shadow
34:18 <Mort-> But realized i need to be at least level 10 to pull it off
34:32 <Mort-> I think he did it on purpose
34:46 <Mort-> I was thinking on how to melee with shadow projection on
35:13 <Mort-> Was a nice academic exercise
37:27 <Mort-> It involved a ghost touch weapon
37:49 <Mort-> Anyway i do like thinking about these kind of things
39:53 <Mort-> Sometimes its just good to throw effectiveness to the winds
40:06 <Mort-> And  think on how to make something work
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45:59 <Hydrazine> you don't see counterspelling much.
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48:09 <Mort-> I don't like counter spell
48:16 <Mort-> You are doing a defensive action
48:26 <Mort-> In order to win you need to do offensive
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57:26 <Mort-> You have 5 fights in a pfs scenario
57:34 <Mort-> The bad guy only has one
58:09 <Mort-> What are the chances he has more Spells then you
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11:26 <S711> Have you read the Game of Thrones books?
11:50 <Mort-> Bet hydrazine has
12:00 <S711> I think I'll read them.
12:03 <MekkisScreen> Mort-: keep in mind that the advantage of counterspell is that if's one character's actions against the enemy's actions
12:10 <MekkisScreen> generally you will outnumber the enemy
12:13 <MekkisScreen> which is a good thing
12:59 <Mort-> Not everyone can counter spell
13:06 <Mort-> You have 4 people in a party
13:14 <Mort-> How many will be prepared for countering
13:32 <Mort-> Fighter? Can't counterspell.
13:55 <Mort-> Divine class? Can't counterspell i should think?
14:06 <MekkisScreen> plus, most counterspell readied actions should be phrased like:
15:40 <MekkisScreen> When (he starts casting)
15:40 <MekkisScreen> 	If (I make my spellcraft check and can counter it)
15:40 <MekkisScreen> 		counter it
15:40 <MekkisScreen> 	Else 
15:40 <MekkisScreen> 		hit him with a scorching ray/disintegrate/fireball so he loses the spell
16:23 <MekkisScreen> worst case scenario, you're still damaging him
17:18 <Mort-> Yeah that's my idea of counter spell
17:18 <Mort-> Haha
17:29 <Mort-> The second method
17:35 <Mort-> Hit him with magic missiles!
18:21 <MekkisScreen> plus, while you're countering his spell, your allies can do other things to make themselves useful
19:25 <Mort-> Nah if i counter its by evocation
19:30 <Mort-> Like magic missiles
20:50 <Hydrazine> I've read them, S711 .
21:30 <Hydrazine> Lengthy, but currently 3rd on my list of 'big series books I'm waiting for the next book of'
21:44 <S711> Hydrazine: Did you read before watching the series?
21:50 <Hydrazine> Yes.
22:06 <Hydrazine> I started reading them 3 or 4 years ago.
22:16 <S711> I'll do that too, read first. Just to see if it affects the way I'll see the series.
22:22 <Hydrazine> It will.
22:30 <Mort-> Was it in song of fire and ice?
22:31 <Hydrazine> I've seen all of first season and some of second.
22:40 <Mort-> That there was someone chasing cats.h
22:41 <Mort-> ?
22:46 <Mort-> Or game of thrones
22:51 <Hydrazine> Same thing, Mort.
22:59 <Mort-> Oh
23:06 <Mort-> So the cat chaser
23:07 <Hydrazine> Game of Thrones is the first book, and the name of the TV series.
23:09 <Mort-> Was tugdpd?
23:12 <Mort-> There?
23:22 <Hydrazine> Song of Fire and Ice, is the title of the.. saga?
23:27 <Hydrazine> Yes.
23:29 <Mort-> Oh dear
23:33 <Mort-> I didn't read it
23:36 <Mort-> So I'm clueless
23:45 <Mort-> Except about cat chasing!
24:19 <Hydrazine> The cat chaser is one of my favorite characters.
24:46 <S711> I've tried .epub formats lately.
24:58 <S711> Not bad, and it's kind of cool not to see the page number.
25:02 <S711> For whatever reason.
25:16 <Hydrazine> I actually own the first four in paper.
25:37 <Hydrazine> But I think reading the last on my kindle was a job easier. Book 5 is damn heavy.
25:38 * Mort- claps paws
25:44 <Mort-> I chase cats too!
26:35 <S711> I was thinking, the author of those books, they say he fleshed out the world and the politics well. I just wonder what he'd be like as a DM.
26:45 <Hydrazine> Funny you mention that.
26:50 <Hydrazine> I was just reading one of his other books.
27:16 <Hydrazine> And in the author's notes after, he talks about how he used to DM SuperWorld.
27:32 <Hydrazine> And that it was a big part of that book.
27:38 <S711> Oh, he plays D&D?
27:45 <Hydrazine> He atleast used to.
27:49 <Hydrazine> Don't know if he still does.
27:51 <S711> I see.
28:01 <Hydrazine> He mentions too, that he was DMing for novelists.
28:07 <Hydrazine> Imagine the storytelling in that game.
28:10 <S711> Yea.
28:53 <Hydrazine> Book is called Wild Cards, if you're curious.
29:04 <Hydrazine> Just finished it the other day. Now I'm on Only Revolutions.
29:11 <Hydrazine> Until it either drives me nuts or I finish it.
29:19 <Hydrazine> Odds are on driving me nuts.
29:39 * Mort- likes stories.
30:30 <S711> Maybe I have it, if it's in the .epub library under his name or whatever.
30:37 <Hydrazine> You may.
30:39 <S711> I just torrented some libraries, the series are there.
30:47 * Hydrazine nods.
31:06 <Hydrazine> I don't think you could do Only Revolutions on an e-reader well.
31:15 <Mort-> The game of thrones looks like a big book
31:22 <Mort-> Not sure if I'm up to it
31:24 <S711> Why not?
31:34 <Hydrazine> Because you have to read it from both sides together.
31:35 <Mort-> Wheel of time drove me nuts
31:45 <Mort-> Could read sword of truth thoughg
31:57 <Hydrazine> "Only Revolutions is printed in such a way that both covers appear to be the front of the book. The side with the green cover is the story as told by Sam, and the side with the gold cover is the story as told by Hailey. Every page contains upside-down text in the bottom margin, which is actually later pages of the opposite volume. For example, the first page of Hailey's story contains the last several lines of Sam's story, apparently upside down. 
31:57 <Hydrazine> When you reach that page while reading Sam's story, those lines will appear to be the only right-side-up text on the page."
32:15 <Mort-> Uh lol
32:19 <Hydrazine> I've read Sword of Truth. But Wheel of Time bored the shit out of me.
32:22 <S711> Someone mentioned Wheel of Time on another server, I've been meaning to read that too, but I never read things in the end.
32:30 <Mort-> Wheel of time i don't understand
32:39 <Tashes> i started reading wheel of time
32:49 <Tashes> miles sent me it for my phone
32:51 <Brunius> Wheel of Time is great
32:56 <Tashes> i'm like four pages in and keep getting distracted
34:08 <Hydrazine> Also, the colors are a part of Mr. Danielewski's work. Just is.
37:16 <Mort-> Don't like it
37:22 <Mort-> Can read forgotten realms
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40:17 <Hydrazine> Eh, I don't read much forgotten realms.
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47:44 <Mort-> Heh
47:54 * Mort- likes black meows
49:26 <Mort-> Anyway i sort of had an uncomfortable day
49:36 <Mort-> Spicy stuff and me don't mix.
49:49 <Mort-> Last night i had chilli crab
50:13 <Mort-> This morning i failed a fort save and ended up on the loo ><
50:21 <Mort-> Couple of times
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16:52 <Ballig> so didn't need to know that
45:52 <Hydrazine> Hmm.
46:02 <Hydrazine> So the transitions between sides in this book get faster as you go.
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46:21 <Steven> sup sup sup
46:25 <Steven> hows everyone doin tonights?
46:30 <Hydrazine> I'm reading a crazy ass book.
47:11 <Steven> Solid!  I got Dominate Person'ed by a succubus and made to do remedial tasks while the rest of my party got their shit pushed back.
47:13 <Steven> lol
47:49 <Steven> Took me 3 days to get undominated
47:53 <Hydrazine> Ouch.
48:14 <Steven> meanwhile i was in Jail, and kept raging trying to break out
48:24 <Steven> finally they just tied me to the bed.
48:39 <Steven> and then i finally made my will save
49:23 <Steven> the monk character tripped, grappled, and pinned me after the succubus told me to finally kill my companions.
49:39 <Hydrazine> Nice.
49:54 <Hydrazine> My monk got through an entire scenario without pinning anything!
50:11 <Steven> yeah, NOBODY decided to Sense Motive on me that i was acting strange by walking out of the room while my compatriots were fighting
50:28 <Steven> and they had protection from evil prepared
51:08 <Steven> but nah fuck that! we gonna let Me go and lock doors, and pray over graves
51:32 <Steven> and i nearly killed both the paladin and the monk once the succubus told me to kill them.
51:39 <Steven> had them both down to 15hp
51:49 <Steven> my minimum damage is 15 lol
52:11 <Steven> Crit on a 15-20 w/ a reach weapon
52:17 <Hydrazine> Salv?
52:19 <Steven> Yup
52:22 <Steven> Level 6 now
52:29 <Hydrazine> Gettin big.
52:32 <Steven> Yup.
52:37 <Steven> He has combat Patrol now.
52:44 <Hydrazine> I want to see him in action
53:02 <Steven> while combat expertising and power attacking +11 to hit
53:11 <Hydrazine> I think you're approach to combat with him is interesting, I wanna see it in action.
54:14 <Steven> 15ft combat patrol area.
54:32 <Steven> doesnt seem OP at all w/ 4 AOO
55:17 <Steven> but seriously, +11/6 for 1d10+14 Crit 15-20 x2
55:28 <Steven> OH dip my damage went up.... 1d10+15
55:43 <Steven> i forgot to calculate in Weapon training
56:55 <Steven> oh nevermind, i did calculate it in
57:07 <Steven> good good
58:05 <Steven> But yeah once i came back in and starting attacking my team mates, they were like jesus why do you do so much damage!
58:24 <Steven> and i was like, cause im critting 25% of the time on you guys.
58:28 <Hydrazine> Duh? I'm a fighter?
58:46 <Mort-> I am going to try to prevent xyn from ever getting dominate
58:47 <Mort-> D
59:05 <Steven> 15+11=26.... your ac is 25.... i confirm, 2d10+28...
59:57 <Steven> !throw 2d10+28
59:57 <diebot> Steven, 2d10+28: [2d10=8,6] 42
00:14 <Steven> YUP seems good
02:30 <Steven> Buying myself a Clear Spindle to put in my Wayfiner
02:35 <Steven> wayfinder even
02:52 <Steven> 4k for no more mind control on Salvanar
03:46 <Steven> My priorites went Good Weapon>Decent Armor>Random Items
05:16 <Steven> So now i have +1 Keen Fauchard, +1 Mithril Mountain Armor, Ring of Feather fall, and a Wayfinder with a clear spindle in it.
06:43 <Avatar> I don't know how you guys talk about the best equipment and styles of combat 24/7
07:20 <Hydrazine> You wound me. Earlier we were discussing literature.
07:32 <Hydrazine> Particularly, the baffling qualities of the stuff I'm currently reading.
07:34 <Avatar> haha
07:51 <Steven> Yeah, if you would like we could talk about something else
08:00 <Steven> However, You must pick the topic
08:11 <Hydrazine> The entire inside of each cover is just text, in circular patterns, printed so you need a mirror to read it.
09:03 <Hydrazine> I just learned that some serious fanatics have counted the word total and are pondering if the cover text is the remainer of whats needed to equal the square of 360.
10:31 <Steven> sure you dont want to talk about equipment avatar?
11:24 <Hydrazine> Hey Steven, I'm considering taking rope tricks on my monk, and taking hostiles from standing to trussed up like a christmas present in one round.
12:18 <Steven> MEH... Im not real fond of rope tricks
14:15 <Steven> !roll 1d20+5
14:15 <dicebot> Steven, 1d20+5: [1d20=19] 24
15:55 <Steven> so, one scenario Salvanar is going to be level 7
19:26 <Steven> nevermind my bad two more
19:28 <Steven> then he is 7
19:32 <Steven> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh yeah
20:57 <Hydrazine> Take a look at this, Steven.
20:58 <Hydrazine> http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/587/roleplaying-games/dd-calibrating-your-expectations-2
25:40 <Steven> yeah im not reading all of that
25:54 <Steven> What is it you want me to pay attention to specifically
26:58 <Hydrazine> Nevermind.
28:34 <Steven> You cant point me at once specific like "this is what i want you to see"?
28:54 <Steven> cause seriously man.... this scroll bar is nto funny
34:14 <Steven> Dude this article is pretty dry
35:23 <Avatar> don't read it don't read it!
36:14 <Steven> i already started! /cry
43:25 <Steven> okay so its not a bad article, im now wondering why you wanted me to read this
45:31 <Hydrazine> Maybe just to give you an idea of how amazing your level 6 fighter is.
47:49 <Steven> I already knew
48:15 <Steven> My level 12 Captain Ausk Stormbrow is like a walking Demigod of Golarion
50:03 <Steven> The Hurrican King, Ruler of the Shackles Isle and Ausk probably hang out together and gamble and wench
50:22 <Steven> Because they are both Bad Asses
50:33 <Mort-> I didn't think at 6 you can get dominated
50:52 <Mort-> Again.. we uptiered sniper. Should have guessed
51:01 <Steven> Yeah mort, Dominate Person works on any HD person
51:09 <Mort-> Ah well
51:35 <Mort-> And people think I'm nuts when i talk about clear spindle ioun stones ^^
51:44 * Mort- sighs
51:58 <Avatar> we think you're nuts in general
52:06 <Steven> Yeah... im with avatar on that one.
52:11 <Mort-> Why?
52:20 <Avatar> do you have a tail?
52:21 * Mort- gives innocent look
52:23 <Steven> Easy answer? You're a woman.
52:26 <Mort-> Sure!
52:30 <Mort-> I have a tail
52:35 <Mort-> And i wouldn't be lying
52:37 <Avatar> no you don't
53:41 <Steven> Mort you have a vestigial tail?
54:01 <Mort-> I have a tail
54:03 <Mort-> Really
54:19 <Mort-> I seriously have a tail
54:50 <Steven> Spina Bifida?
55:24 <Steven> I dont know why i know this...  Fuck you random information dump!
55:35 <Mort-> No
57:29 <Steven> Your tail has cartilage and/or vertabrae in it and your parents didn't get you corrective surgery to fix it?
58:39 <Hydrazine> You're at 2 of 20 questions, for those of you keeping track at home.
59:10 <Steven> Oh dip only 18 more questions to figure out how exactly mort has a til.
59:13 <Steven> tail even
00:43 <Mort-> No :p
02:04 <Steven> Is your tail a Natural part of your PHYSICAL Body
03:25 <Mort-> Its certainly part of me
03:33 <Mort-> Its physical
03:57 <Hydrazine> Yes or no answers, Mort.
04:12 <Hydrazine> Judge says yes.
04:14 <Hydrazine> 3.
04:38 <Steven> She did not answer the question
05:48 <Steven> Natural part means your body grew it on its own with no outside influences as per the instructions in your genetic code.
07:21 <Mort-> Yes
07:26 <Mort-> That's true!
09:21 <Steven> How long is it?
09:35 <Mort-> Not very to be honest
09:35 <Hydrazine> Yes/no questions.
09:49 <Steven> no problem hydra...
10:04 <Steven> Is it longer then 6 inches?
12:37 <Mort-> Yes
12:42 <Hydrazine> 4.
13:06 <Steven> Is it longer then 2 feet?
19:11 <Steven> wonder whats taking so long....
19:43 <Steven> im thinking shes trying to figure out how long 2 feet is... its 61cm
23:42 <Mort-> 61cm?
25:23 <Steven> I asked if your Tail was longer then 61cm
25:31 <Steven> 2 feet
25:50 <Mort-> Checking
26:31 <Steven> hey hydra how old is mort?
26:38 <Mort-> No
26:42 <Hydrazine> Bit younger than me I think.
26:51 <Hydrazine> 5.
27:02 <Hydrazine> 5 questions, not Mort is 5 years old.
28:46 <Steven> okay, so far we have Longer then 6 inches, less then 2 feet, Natural part of her Genetic code, NOT Spina Bifida.
28:59 <Hydrazine> Good review.
29:00 * Mort- grins
29:29 <Steven> Is it a true tail?  
30:02 <Hydrazine> Vague question, I say.
30:41 <Steven> no, it has to do with if the tail forms at the bottom of the spinal column as an extention of the tailbone/coccyx
30:56 <Hydrazine> See? More specific.
31:14 <Steven> such a growth is considered to be a True Tail
31:21 <Mort-> Tails are tails
31:47 <Steven> Negative mort.
31:55 <Hydrazine> So, to rephrase.
32:09 <Hydrazine> Does the tail form at the base of the spinal column?
32:14 <Hydrazine> Take it away, Mort.
32:19 <Steven> that is not what i asked hydra
32:27 <Hydrazine> Then you clarify it.
32:46 * Mort- is puzzled and doesnt understand
32:58 <Steven> I asked if it was a true tail.  Meaning one that formed at the bottom of the Spinal column as an extention of the tailbone/coccyx
33:41 <Mort-> Are you asking if it formed at the bottom of the spinal column?
34:19 <Steven> That is part of it, Being that it would form out of the tailbone/coccyx.
34:34 <Mort-> No.
34:39 <Hydrazine> Six.
34:48 <Steven> Is it a Genetic Abnormality.
34:53 <Mort-> No
35:16 <Hydrazine> Steven, I possess photographic evidence to be released upon the conclusion of the game.
35:17 <Hydrazine> Seven.
35:26 <Steven> Thats cool.
37:13 <Hydrazine> Feel free to proceed.
39:51 <Steven> Does the 'tail' contain blood vessels
39:58 <Mort-> No
40:06 <Hydrazine> Eight.
40:08 <Steven> Is it Cancerous?
40:37 <Mort-> No
40:46 <Hydrazine> Nine.
42:17 <Steven> Is it a pseudotail?
42:32 <Mekkis> what's a pseudotail?
43:20 <Mort-> Yeah
43:29 <Mort-> I don't understand
43:41 <Steven> A tail that is not an extention of the Tailbone, usually formed from  cartilage, lipoma and glioma
44:04 <Steven> Glioma is a type of tumor that starts in the brain or spine from glial cells
44:08 <Hydrazine> So, in the form of a question?
44:48 <Mort-> I really don't get it
44:56 <Steven> and lipoma is a benign tumor composed of adipose(body fat)
45:08 <Mort-> You are just confusing me
45:09 <Steven> Is it a pseudotail is my question
45:23 <Mort-> What is a pseudotail
45:30 <Mort-> Ah those things
45:40 <Mort-> But its neither of all those things
45:48 <Mort-> Wait
45:48 <Hydrazine> Ten.
45:52 <Mort-> Let me re read
46:08 <Hydrazine> Your answer is correct, Mort.
46:13 <Mort-> It is?
46:14 <Mort-> Ok
46:34 <Mort-> Its not extension of a tail bone definitely
46:46 <Mort-> Nor any kind of tumor
46:51 <Hydrazine> Don't give further details.
46:51 <Steven> her answer is its not a psuedotail, correct hydra 
46:59 <Mort-> K
47:07 <Hydrazine> Correct, Steven.
47:10 <Steven> I already know its not a tumor, i asked if it was cancerous
47:25 <Mekkis> tumors aren't always cancerous
47:38 <Steven> true
47:54 <Steven> i am about to deal with the noncancerous ones rightnow
48:40 <Steven> Is it a benign Tumor?
48:47 <Mort-> No
48:50 <Hydrazine> Eleven.
49:13 <Mort-> First i brew and then i bake
49:27 <Mort-> Tomorrow the queens own child ill take
49:35 <Mort-> This is a game she can never win
49:39 <Steven> When you were birthed, Were you born with the tail.
49:45 <Mort-> Hydra - can you finish it?
49:47 <Mort-> No
49:51 <Hydrazine> IF you wish.
49:53 <Hydrazine> Twelve.
53:09 <Steven> hmmmm..... So, we are at its not tumorous, cancerous, she wasnt born with it, its not spina bifida, not a true OR pseudo tail, its 6 inches to 2 feet long, is not supported by blood vessels, not a genetic abnormality, and somehow its natually part of its genetic structure.
53:32 <Hydrazine> I agree.
53:36 <Mort-> Wow you sound like a doctor
53:44 <Hydrazine> Dr. Steven.
53:49 <Mekkis> psychologist
53:58 <Mort-> Hydra likes medicine :p
54:12 <Mort-> Pass him antitoxin! :p
54:27 * Mort- giggles
54:54 <Hydrazine> Hey, a +5 to fort saves is nothing to laugh at.
55:04 <Hydrazine> Especially when you're thinking, "I'm probably going to get poisoned."
55:09 <Mort-> Mekkis. Want to join in? :p
55:10 <Mort-> I know
55:19 <Mort-> I used the same clause on mort
55:21 <Brunius> Halflings don't need antitoxin!
55:30 <Avatar> and then they die
55:33 <Mort-> Sewers? Glup antiplague!
55:47 <Mort-> But yeah. We are going to prove i have a tail.
55:48 <Brunius> You guys have spent like 200gp on antitoxin, and Kaleb has spent none
55:49 <Steven> is it comprised wholely of Homo sapien DNA
55:57 <Brunius> And he is still alive
55:57 <Mekkis> at least they don't die as often as humans
55:59 <Mort-> Hydra already has the evidence
56:00 <Mort-> Yes
56:03 <Brunius> Ergo, one does not need antitoxin
56:12 <Avatar> kaleb is just ballsie 
56:16 <Hydrazine> Thirteen.
56:17 <Steven> Would your parents agree that you have a tail?
56:50 <Avatar> are you guys still talking about the tail thing
56:55 <Avatar> that was like an hour ago
56:59 <Steven> Yes, we are playing 20 questions
57:06 <Avatar> mort: where are the photos
57:12 <Hydrazine> I have it.
57:19 <Avatar> and?
57:35 <Hydrazine> It shall be presented at the conclusion of the game.
58:49 <Hydrazine> Mort?
58:56 <Mekkis> Brunius, but Kaleb's had 6000gp spent on a raise :)
59:04 <Brunius> Nope
59:08 <Brunius> PP
59:14 <Mekkis> really?
59:18 <Brunius> Yeah
59:20 <Mort-> Yes
59:21 <Avatar> not from poison though
59:23 <Mekkis> I thought someone paid for it for him
59:29 <Brunius> Oh yeah
59:29 <Hydrazine> Fourteen.
59:30 <Avatar> or was this another time
59:49 <Brunius> Yeah, you're right.
00:24 <Brunius> That wasn't from poison, though
00:43 <Mekkis> yes
00:49 <Steven> I am willing to end the game now.  I do not believe she has a tail.
00:54 <Mekkis> it was from a rogue doing what's expected of him
01:03 <Hydrazine> Steven concedes defeat!
01:11 <Hydrazine> You ready? You're gonna feel stupid.
01:20 <Steven> No.  Medically its impossible for her to have a Tail with the information she has given me.
01:24 <Brunius> Trying to get a flank and failing miserably?
01:38 <Mekkis> Steven, are you sure
01:52 <Steven> Yes.
01:58 <Hydrazine> http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f220/ookichinpoko/IMG239.jpg
02:19 <Brunius> I don't see a tail.
02:21 <Steven> If you are refering to her hair that is not a tail.
02:31 <Hydrazine> Bounce this against the questions you asked.
02:45 <Avatar> I'll bounce it against the fact there is no tail
02:58 <Hydrazine> Its clearly a ponytail.
03:11 <Avatar> I think we all know that she didn't mean a ponytail
03:21 <Hydrazine> Her parents would call it so.
03:22 <Mort-> I said i had a tail
03:23 <Avatar> I had a ponytail a month ago
03:26 <Avatar> I never would have called it a tail
03:32 <Mort-> Its still a tail
03:39 <Avatar> it's a ponytail
03:41 <Hydrazine> Its made of human DNA.
03:45 <Mekkis> but there wasn't the question of whether Avatar would have called it one
03:46 <Mekkis> :)
03:53 <Hydrazine> Which includes the word tail in it.
04:04 <Avatar> well you can make up names for anything you want
04:06 <Mort-> Lol
04:07 <Avatar> that doesn't mean that's what it is
04:11 <Mort-> It is a tail
04:16 <Avatar> it's a ponytail
04:17 <Mekkis> Mort-, we'll make you lawful evil sooner or later :)
04:23 <Mort-> Lol
04:27 <Mort-> Seriously?
04:30 <Brunius> Look, I call my arm a horn!
04:31 <Steven> If we really want to split the hair... see what i did there.  She gave me faulty information.
04:35 <Brunius> Ergo, it is a horn
04:39 <Brunius> I have a horn
04:40 <Mort-> I need to thank hydra for it though
04:40 <Mekkis> now... where did I leave my Qt build environment
05:02 <Mort-> The closest thing you have to a horn is actually your nails
05:10 <Mort-> Keratin
05:12 <Hydrazine> Its very clearly a ponytail. Dictionaries and other such references about words and the meaning of them, support this.
05:37 <Hydrazine> ponyTAIL clearly includes the word TAIL.
05:49 <Hydrazine> The questions were answered correctly. Agree, Steven?
06:13 <Avatar> I think you were playing different games
06:37 <Steven> negative.
07:09 <Mort-> Hydra would poke me out if i lied?
07:18 <Hydrazine> Which question do you say was not answered correctly?
07:21 <Steven> I asked if it grew naturally as part of her genetic code.
07:30 <Mort-> I don't understand a lot of biological terms you used
07:32 <Steven> Her hair grows naturally, but does not naturally form into a pony tail!
07:32 <Mort-> It does
07:40 <Mort-> Doesn't your hair grow everyday?
08:10 <Hydrazine> From the perfection of hindsight, how would you have answered that question?
08:31 <Hydrazine> Understanding that hair is indeed part of the genetic code and growing, but not precisely in the shape desired.
08:48 <Steven> I said, Is your tail a natural part of your physical body, you asked for clarifaction, so i said natural part means your body grew it on its own with no outside influence as per instruction in your genetic code.
09:26 <Mort-> To say my tail does not grow would be lying too
09:30 <Mort-> Since it does..
09:35 <Steven> outside influence would include you forming it into said structure, and then keeping it in that structure with the scrunchy
10:32 <Hydrazine> Then I apologize for allowing a faulty answer into the game, though I hope you can understand my dilemma over the true and false aspects of it
10:43 <Steven> I completely understand Hydra.
10:55 <Hydrazine> Thank you.
10:57 <Mort-> :p
11:01 <Hydrazine> Have fun playing atleast?
11:09 <Steven> I, and im sure avatar, would appreciate you informing mort that she does in fact, NOT have a tail.
11:20 <Mort-> Lol
11:27 <Mort-> I still say i have a tail.
11:35 <Mort-> A ponytail!
11:48 <Steven> Yes, it no longer matters though mort.  We have proven you do not have a tail.
12:29 <Steven> Hydra, would you do the honors?
12:43 <Hydrazine> We've proven that she doesn't have the sort of tail you were looking for. Though she does have a ponytail. When she chooses to anyway.
13:01 <Avatar> how much is she paying you hydrazine
13:19 <Steven> Alright.  So now that I've won.  I am going to eat a victory cupcake.
13:37 <Avatar> you and your victory cupcakes
14:04 * Steven gives avatar a cupcake made up of digital 1's and 0's
14:19 <Steven> You an of course join me in the devouring of victory cupcakes!
14:26 <Hydrazine> Better than giving him one made of digital 2s and -1s. That'd just taste funny.
14:41 <Steven> and be a coding nightmare...
15:00 <Hydrazine> I can do subtraction in binary.
15:13 <Mort-> Ew
15:28 <Hydrazine> You can also count notably higher on your fingers by using binary.
16:06 <Mekkis> you can count even higher in ternary
16:16 <Steven> I can count notably higher with a calculator....
16:36 <Mekkis> I can't count with a calculator
16:46 <Mort-> Mekkis. What makes you think i can be lawful evil someday?
17:08 <Mekkis> your dancing around the truth is commendable :)
17:19 <Mort-> Oh
17:28 <Mort-> Thanks mekkis!
17:35 * Hydrazine ponders.
17:37 * Mort- hugs mekkis
17:47 <Hydrazine> I am now trying to work out how I make my fingers work in ternary.
17:59 <Mort-> I'm sure hydra can le better then i though!
18:10 <Steven> okay.... for you people who know math....
18:13 <Steven> ready?
18:14 <Mort-> Insufficient maths to comprehend such an act
18:18 <Steven> ∞!
18:28 <Steven> bwahahahahah
18:31 <Mort-> Sum of infinity?
18:35 <Steven> YUP!
18:36 <Hydrazine> Probably takes more practice, but it does work.
18:47 <Hydrazine> Just not used to it yet.
18:48 <Steven> told you i can count notably higher
19:20 <Steven> Sadly i dont know how to make a sigma with my numpad
19:32 <Steven> i bet i could google it
19:56 <Mekkis> how is that "counting"?
20:38 <Mort-> I want to learn to be lawful evil
20:53 <Steven> i never said i was going to add all the numbers together, i used math to achieve my goal.
21:07 <Mort-> I keep fking it up :(
21:22 <Mekkis> so it isn't counting :)
21:58 <Brunius> I can get up to four variations per finger/thumb, so what's that, quadranary?
22:01 <Hydrazine> I think anything beyond ternary is unreasonable for fingers though, Mek.
22:18 <Hydrazine> Can you do so on every finger independently, Brunius?
22:24 <Steven> well... if you use the definition of count to be the act of determining the total number of something
22:29 * Mort- lets all the bad maths pass through her head
22:34 <Mort-> Bad words
22:37 <Brunius> Not easily
22:43 <Mekkis> I often keep track of my life total in Magic in base 3
22:51 <Steven> if you use a mathmatical formula to determine that number, theres no reason that it wouldnt be counting
23:03 <Brunius> I'd just keep track of it in base 20
23:19 <Hydrazine> What symbols do you use for the rest of base 20?
23:39 <Mekkis> there is a benefit to keeping track in a high base: it makes your opponent more aggressive and more likely to overcommit
23:43 <Brunius> A-J
23:58 <Mekkis> I prefer using a low base, to make my opponent more conservative and passive
24:21 <Mekkis> when they see "34" on your life pad, they're less likely to be overly aggressive
24:25 <Hydrazine> I'm gonna start doing my HP in base 2 in game.
25:32 <Mekkis> Steven, "counting" implies a sequence
25:52 <Hydrazine> 11000/11011
26:03 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, that's bad
26:08 <Hydrazine> Hokubi took 3 damage!
26:26 <Mekkis> it makes the DM think you've got a lot of health, and therefore to target you more
26:45 <Mekkis> so when Houkbi's on 11111111 HP....
27:12 <Hydrazine> When hes on 255 hp, I'd say hes doing pretty good.
27:23 <Brunius> ^
27:24 <Mekkis> when you realise that it's eight-bit twos complement...
27:32 <Steven> count/kount/
27:33 <Steven> Verb:	
27:33 <Steven> Determine the total number of (a collection of items).
27:33 <Steven> Noun:	
27:33 <Steven> An act of determining the total number of something.
27:33 <Steven> A European nobleman whose rank corresponds to that of an English earl.
27:38 * Mort- facepalms
27:59 <Hydrazine> How about hex?
28:25 <Mekkis> hex has the advantage that it appears you're on a lower HP total than you are :)
28:42 <Mekkis> which is good in Pathfinder, but can be bad in Magic
29:20 <Brunius> ITT: People argue over whether Mort- has a tail, Steven argues over the meaning of words, and we debate which method of counting is best
29:38 <Steven> its a good night.
29:55 <Hydrazine> So full HP for him is.. 1B.]
30:16 <Hydrazine> I think.
31:20 <Steven> and its not really a debate over the meaning of the word, i googled it.  If he wants to debate it, he can email google.
31:20 <Mekkis> base 5 is good in Magic
31:37 <Mekkis> because "34" is a reasonable life total
32:12 <Steven> Yeah man, i went early tonight to play magic with the guys before playing pfs
32:24 <Steven> and some new guy showed up and i had to help him create a character
32:31 <Steven> BOOM all my magic time... gone.
32:40 <Brunius> I play at lunchtimes
32:43 <Brunius> It's great
32:47 <Mort-> Heh
32:47 <Mekkis> Magic's too political for me :S
32:47 <Mort-> I think if i could fly i wouldn't be scared of heights
32:47 <Mort-> I mean personally I'm scared of heights but i keep having dreams of flying
33:05 <Mekkis> I want to build an ornithopter
33:11 <Brunius> Oh dear
33:20 <Steven> I used to work nights at a gas station and ide get all my work done and my buddy josh would come in and we would play for like 2-2.5hr a night
34:21 <Steven> It was a lot of fun, did that for like two years
34:55 <Brunius> "Regardless of the century, plane, or species, developing artificers never fail to invent the ornithopter."
34:59 <Mort-> I just want to grow a pair of feathery wings
34:59 <Mort-> That i can fly on
35:13 <Steven> wanna go bird hunting mort?
35:32 <Steven> i got a shotgun you can borrow
35:42 <Brunius> Ohho
35:54 <Brunius> Whereabouts in 'merica are you Steven?
36:09 <Steven> on the boarder of Washington/Idaho
36:11 <Mort-> No!
36:41 <Mort-> 0/2 i think orinithopher
37:18 <Mort-> Sigh just thinking about how i ended up in pfs
37:57 <Brunius> That's a pity, all my travel plans for the US (if I ever get around to enacting them sometime in my mid-20s) are for the west coast
38:00 <Steven> I think turn 1 darksteel citidal, Mox opal, Ornathopter, tap opal and citidal for monolyth and throw down a metal worker
38:14 <Brunius> Turn 1 Arcbound Worker
38:17 <Brunius> 2 Steel Overseer
38:20 <Brunius> 3 Sinking Feeling
38:21 <Mekkis> Brunius, you have travel plans for the US?
38:27 <Mort-> Jevouse said create a knowledge whore
38:30 <Mort-> So mort appeared
38:30 <Mort-> He said just create someone who has all the knowledge skills
38:30 <Mort-> We will take care of the rest of the fighting
38:32 <Steven> Why would you ever want to come to the US?
38:52 <Hydrazine> To buy electronics!
38:59 <Steven> where do you live brunius?
39:03 <Brunius> Australia!
39:20 <Brunius> Melbourne
39:24 <Mekkis> Turn 1 Tolarian Acadamy, mox opal, mox sapphire, black lotus, ancestral recall, time walk, timetwister, tinker for blightsteel colossus
39:30 <Mekkis> turn 2 attack for 11
39:43 <Mekkis> (infect)
40:02 <Steven> go to europe man, think it will probably be much cooler for you then the US
40:06 <Brunius> One of my friends runs a deck that can conceivably do a turn 0 kill
40:07 <Mekkis> agreed!
40:12 <Mekkis> yeah
40:17 <Mekkis> I've got flash hulk too
40:19 <Mekkis> who doesn't
40:31 <Brunius> I don't think it's flash hulk
40:33 <Steven> seriously, ive got a deck that does that
40:37 <Brunius> Mainly because the name is unfamiliar
40:42 <Brunius> It's some leyline combo
40:45 <Steven> its about as boring as it gets though.
40:58 <Mekkis> flash hulk has about a 15% chance of killing on turn 0
42:05 <Hydrazine> So we were pushing up bot lane when he enemy AP carry went mia... so we cv'd their blue and ez KSed it with R..
42:57 <Mekkis> Steven, how much would it cost you to ship a box to Australia?
43:32 <Steven> I dont know, ide have to go look it up.
43:32 <Brunius> Ordering from amazon then priceusa is about 120, 
46:39 <Steven> I do know it costs and arm and a leg to ship internationally
46:43 <Mort-> What's the difference between charm and dominate mek
46:44 <Mort-> Curious
46:44 <Mort-> I don't think ill use that particular school of magic
46:44 <Mort-> But you can never tell
47:16 <Mekkis> charm is "you like me, so you'll probably do what I say"
47:48 <Mekkis> compulsion is "My mind is so vastly superior than yours that you WILL do as I say"
48:12 <Steven> and duration
48:17 <Brunius> Hold crap
48:21 <Brunius> Holy even
48:24 <Brunius> http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/tkx5b/my_friend_always_claimed_that_obiwan_died_in_the/c4nknrf
51:14 <Steven> heh that was intersting
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51:57 <mortswishytail> In order to use charm and compulsion to its full effect you need high cha right?
52:07 <Mekkis> not really
52:09 <mortswishytail> Charm and dominate
52:19 <Mekkis> it sort of helps for charm
52:25 <mortswishytail> Say mort decides to charm people
52:26 <Mekkis> doesn't need it for dominate
52:29 <mortswishytail> Sure 16 dc on a level 1 spell
52:36 <mortswishytail> Pretty decent?
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52:48 <mortswishytail> So next go bash the guy next to you
52:53 <mortswishytail> - make charisma check?
53:03 <mortswishytail> = chance of screwup?
53:20 <Mekkis> depends what you're trying to do
53:29 <mortswishytail> So dominate means no cha check?
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54:57 <Mort-> Sorry dc
55:43 <Steven> Dominate means no cha check, you just have to tell them to do something and whenever you issue an order they get to make a save vs the spell effect
55:51 <Mort-> Does dominate give bonus saves if you're forcing that guy to hit his allies?
56:39 <Steven> It gets one save, when you issue the command to kill a person with a +2 modifer
56:48 <Mekkis> one additional save
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57:43 <Mort-> So keep orders simple
57:46 <Steven> One additional save whenever you issue an order against its nature.
57:55 <Mort-> What happens instead of saying attack x
57:56 <Steven> no, you just tell it to do something thats in its nature
58:05 <Mort-> But attack all my foes instead
58:21 <Mort-> Because you don't want to keep having to change his orders
58:32 <Mort-> More saves you know
58:34 <Steven> like today, i got dominated, i started doing mundane things, like locking the room
58:44 <Mort-> Yeah
59:07 <Steven> I didnt get to make a save because i wouldnt want bad guys to get away.
59:20 <Steven> so i took two turns and walked over to the door and locked it
59:31 <Steven> the new order was to take the key and hide it
59:36 <Mort-> I don't want kalara or xyniel dominated
59:37 <Mort-> First thing xyn will start sending everyone running.
59:38 <Mort-> In short order
59:38 <Mort-> Wtf. :p
59:42 <Mort-> Against your nature?
59:48 <Steven> well i wouldnt want the bad guys to be able to pick up the key real fast and escape
59:54 <Mort-> A lot of my characters don't have sense motive
59:56 <Mort-> Though
59:58 <Steven> so i spent a turn or two hiding it
00:01 <Mort-> That will be a problem
00:02 <Mort-> Ok
00:11 <Steven> well then the succubus got in trouble and told me to go find her a potion
00:18 <Steven> BAM new save... shes a bad guy.
00:33 <Steven> i dont want bad guys to be able to heal
00:34 <Mort-> So you went to find her a potion?
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00:50 <Steven> i failed my save and tried to find her a potion.
01:09 <mortswishytail> Ok
01:15 <mortswishytail> Certainly
01:29 <Steven> none of my party members would give me a potion so i went and found the key, unlocked the door, and ran to a potion vender  took me like 17 rounds
01:38 <Steven> came back
01:43 <Steven> two people dead
01:59 <Steven> the succubus was like give me the potion
02:09 <Steven> bam new save, i failed handed her the potion
02:23 <Steven> she tried to drink it, monk took AOO and knocked it out of her hand
02:35 <Steven> she cursed and sent me to find another one
02:41 <Steven> new save
02:46 <Steven> it was a really bad night for me
02:54 <Steven> i kept rolling <10
02:59 <Steven> and the dc is like 22
03:05 <Steven> was so freakin bad
03:15 <Mekkis> wording suggestions is hard
03:26 <mortswishytail> I want to learn
03:26 <Mekkis> remember when Grolschmir was dominated :)
03:47 <mortswishytail> I don't want any of my melees dominated
04:06 <mortswishytail> If xyn gets dominated just grapple her and tie her up
04:25 <mortswishytail> Unfortunately..uh she is a scary monster
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04:49 <mortswishytail> But even grolsh dominated
05:00 <mortswishytail> If hawk doesn't want to move
05:01 <mortswishytail> Can't charge? :p
05:16 <Steven> But yeah, it was pretty crazy, 3 days dominated
05:25 <mortswishytail> Yeah :(
05:27 <Steven> cause she ran away
05:29 <Mekkis> I wonder
05:33 <Steven> she=the succubus
05:44 <Mekkis> if Itzamna should teach Combat Riding to Khaa!
05:46 <mortswishytail> ?
06:08 <Mekkis> Khaa! is Itzamna's hawk
06:12 <mortswishytail> You want khaa to ride where?
06:17 <mortswishytail> I know
06:53 <mortswishytail> Xyns way of dealing with invisibles is so suited to her profession
06:58 <mortswishytail> Dough them up!
07:07 <mortswishytail> Like see invisibility scroll
07:12 <mortswishytail> Take out pouch of flour
07:12 <Mekkis> Itzamna might want to ride him
07:16 <mortswishytail> And start throwing
07:22 <mortswishytail> I don't recommend it
07:24 <Steven> so sad news, my buddy josh is giving up playing with our current group.  He is tired of the way we Gm
07:37 <Steven> which is Joe being a fuck around, and me being Rules oriented.
07:39 <mortswishytail> Hawk is a little wimpy
07:48 <Steven> so no more home brew.
07:51 <mortswishytail> Spellcraft check. Where is spell coming from
07:54 * Steven is a sad panda.
08:04 <mortswishytail> Oh hawk. Ok magic missiles
08:17 <mortswishytail> Oops. Its a long way down!
08:50 <Brunius> Steven: Get them in here!
08:58 <mortswishytail> Lol
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09:56 <Steven> I'll see if josh will come play, im not inviting joe.  Joe is a pain in the ass.
14:01 <Brunius> Hmm, I need more cash
14:17 <Brunius> Time to sell more crap on ebayt
14:20 <Mekkis> then go to an ATM
14:20 <Brunius> -t
14:28 <Mekkis> what sort of "crap"?
14:28 <Steven> He says no, he is going to take a break from pfs for a few weeks at the least. 
14:33 <Brunius> I have 33c in the bank
14:40 <Mekkis> that's a problem
15:56 <Mekkis> any cons coming up in the next few months?
16:14 <Brunius> Not till unicon I think
16:30 <Brunius> And all my money around that time is going towards RtR
16:31 <Mekkis> isn't there something in Canberra or Sydney?
16:35 <Mekkis> RtR?
16:44 <Brunius> RTR, even
16:50 <Brunius> Return to Ravnica
17:08 <Brunius> RRV
17:13 <Brunius> Whatever it's called
17:13 <Mekkis> ah
20:15 <Mekkis> where do you play?
20:37 <Brunius> The plan for RTR is GG:Blackburn or Cardtastic
20:50 <Brunius> Probably cardtastic
25:39 <Mekkis> there's too much politics in Brisbane Magic
25:55 <Brunius> Oh?
28:41 <Mekkis> does Good Games have a Reputation down there?
28:45 <Mekkis> that you know of?
29:05 <Brunius> I don't go in very often
29:16 <Brunius> But not that I know of
30:26 <Mekkis> wow
30:32 <Mekkis> my photo's on Paizo's website
30:50 <Brunius> Where?
30:57 <Hydrazine> Hey Mekkis, your dice are pretty cool.
31:01 <Mekkis> thanks
31:58 <Mekkis> wow
32:08 <Mekkis> that's a photo of my playing my first session!
32:20 <Brunius> Ha
33:18 <Mekkis> how things have changed!
34:10 <Mekkis> man, I needed a haircut then
34:53 <Steven>  where is this photo mekkis?
35:32 <Mort-> God
35:38 <Mort-> Yeah links hydra
36:18 <Mort-> Now I'm reading of wolves with inquisitor and magus levels
36:20 <Mort-> Wtf
36:25 <Mort-> That's like not right
36:50 <Mort-> If a wolf had fighter/rogue/druid/ranger levels
36:57 <Mort-> I don't think i would bother
37:56 <Mort-> Barb levels age fine too
38:32 <Mort-> But frankly anything else really tweaks my incredubility
39:17 * Mort- is board trolling
40:55 <Mekkis> Mort-, if you're trolling, you need to post!
41:03 <Steven> Methinks im going to go troll the bed and see if i get get lucky
41:09 <Brunius> Heh
41:14 <Mort-> Well I'm like lurking
41:17 <Brunius> Have fim
41:17 <Mort-> I never appear
41:28 <Mort-> No one even knows I'm there
41:34 <Steven> Mekkis... I am going to try to post! lol
41:35 <Mort-> I visit it like a ghost
42:03 <Steven> see you guys in no less then 4 hours!
42:12 <Mort-> Lol
42:28 <Mort-> Mekkis
42:48 <Mort-> Can i asktgmw you cast spells with material components with shadow projection?
43:06 <Mort-> That question really boggled me
43:25 <Mekkis> I'm wrong
43:37 <Mekkis> it's actually my fifth PFS game
43:42 <Mort-> Ah
43:43 <Mekkis> Tide of Morning
43:49 <Mort-> Pics or it didn't happen
44:02 <Mekkis> but the photo is horrible!
44:07 <Mort-> But seriously you guys get to find games easier then poor me
44:12 <Mort-> Suit yourself then
44:18 <Mort-> I respect privacy
44:25 <Mort-> And oh there was this saying
44:29 <Steven> I dont... Shows me before i go!
44:49 <Mort-> Always dress your best. You never know when its your time to become a legend
44:53 <Steven> lets see it mek
45:08 <Mekkis> Steven, I'll PM you the picture, as long as you don't associate the link with me
45:11 * Mort- slaps Steven
45:20 <Mort-> Wtf?
45:36 <Mort-> He gets inconsiderate and he gets a picture?#
45:48 <Steven> I will refrain from doing that
45:48 <Mort-> I try to be nice and don't get anything? :p
45:52 <Mort-> KK
45:54 <Mekkis> ok Steven?
45:54 <Mort-> Lol
45:57 <Steven> fortune favors the bould
46:06 <Steven> I agree to your terms sir!
46:08 * Mort- slaps Steven again
46:56 Steven is now known as Ausk
47:11 <Ausk> WHAT THE HELL!  SLAPPIN ME!  TIME TO DIE!
47:17 * Ausk roars furiously at mort.
47:34 <Mekkis> oh no
47:40 <Mekkis> Ausk needs to make a will save
47:47 <Mort-> Why?
47:57 <Mort-> He has great will saves anyway :(
48:03 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+39 Intimidation@mort
48:15 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+39 Intimidation at mort
48:15 <diebot> Ausk, Intimidation at mort: [1d20=11] 50
48:16 <Mort-> Uh..
48:19 <Mort-> You're mean
48:25 <Mekkis> will save!
48:36 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+12 Will save
48:37 <diebot> Ausk, Will save: [1d20=2] 14
48:43 <Mekkis> you can't
48:49 <Mort-> As i said i don't even know how to use my wizzie powersp
48:54 <Ausk> yes i can, i acted first! bwahahaha
49:06 <Mekkis> Mort- was stabbed with a spell-storing dagger of Sanctuary three rounds ago!
50:00 <Ausk> damn those random stabbings
50:23 <Mort-> What?
50:28 <Mort-> I never noticed it!
50:36 <Mekkis> it was a tiny dagger
50:56 <Mort-> No damage?
51:00 <Mekkis> 1 nonlethal
51:03 <Mort-> Gosh
51:06 <Mekkis> didn't you feel the prick?
51:08 <Mort-> Never felt it!
51:12 <Mort-> Nope
51:18 <Mort-> Nose in cell
51:20 <Mekkis> must have DR/lethal
51:29 <Mort-> -10 to perception
51:31 <Mort-> :p
51:40 <Ausk> however...  Sanctuary protects against attacks and spells, this is neither.
51:41 <Mekkis> hmmm
51:49 * Mort- looks and ausk
51:52 <Mekkis> spell-storing amulet of mighty fists
52:06 <Mekkis> only 5000gp!
52:12 <Mort-> Lol
52:23 <Ausk> Anyways.... no problem
52:27 <Mekkis> that's a good deal, you know
52:32 <Mort-> Why?
52:53 * Ausk casts Blistering Invective
53:12 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+39 Intimidation
53:12 <diebot> Ausk, Intimidation: [1d20=15] 54
53:22 <Ausk> !throw 1d10 Fire damage
53:23 <diebot> Ausk, Fire damage: [1d10=8] 8
53:28 <Mort-> Ow
53:33 <Mort-> Reflex
53:40 <Mort-> You get intimdate
53:54 <Mort-> But catching on fire is my reflex
54:04 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7 reflex
54:04 <diebot> Mort-, reflex: [1d20=14] 21
54:07 <Ausk> I know, cause sanctuary doesnt protect against aoe!
54:25 * Mort- casts resist energy fire
54:48 <Ausk> you take 8 damage no matter what
54:55 <Mort-> Hm
55:31 <Mekkis> Ausk, did you see Mytiazair in the corner?
55:32 <Ausk> now....
55:44 <Ausk> lets find out!
56:01 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+10 Perception
56:02 <diebot> Ausk, Perception: [1d20=13] 23
56:06 <Ausk> your stealth
56:10 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+56 stealth
56:11 <diebot> Mekkis, stealth: [1d20=6] 62
56:18 <Ausk> I did not see him
56:20 <Mort-> Yup
56:25 <Mekkis> better make another will save then
56:33 <Brunius> And then I said "sleep shall be had!"
56:38 <Brunius> I might try statting up myself
56:41 <Mort-> I will keep that one in mind
56:42 <Brunius> Night guys
56:54 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+12
56:54 <diebot> Ausk, 1d20+12: [1d20=4] 16
56:59 <Mort-> Xyn can actually attempt to umd it
57:07 <Ausk> I have been lowing so bad the last day on saves its rediculous
57:10 <Mort-> She has good umd
57:11 <Mort-> Lol
57:15 <Mekkis> You are Suggested to play nice with Mort- 
57:25 <Ausk> Wouldnt you like that?
57:33 <Ausk> BAM! clear spindle in a wayfinder!
57:36 <Mort-> But it was one of the spells that i was eyeing for her
57:38 <Mort-> Sorry
57:42 <Mort-> Mek isn't evil
57:46 <Mort-> Myz
57:47 * Ausk flexes like a boss
57:54 <Mort-> Its like a protection from evil spell
58:00 <Mort-> Myz is not evil
58:09 <Mort-> So. It doesn't work on him
58:26 <Ausk> yes it prevents you from having compulsions cast on you.
58:48 <Mort-> Only if caster is evil
58:58 <Ausk> or rather, it prevents them from giving you commands.
59:07 <Mort-> Protects you from mind affecting things as per protection from evil
59:26 <Mort-> So like protection from evil it works only if the caster is evil
00:30 <Ausk> no its as per the mechanisim of protection from evil
00:37 <Ausk> in how it works
00:40 <Mort-> As per spell
00:50 <Mort-> Protection from evil
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01:53 <Ausk> Protection from Evil imbues upon its target immunity to any new compulsion or charm effects regardless of the alignment of the effect's creator. By extension this broken (a term I don't use lightly) combination prevents the owner from being affected by spells like Confusion, Hold Person, and sleep.
01:54 <Ausk> This combination doesn't require any slots, is permanent, and only costs 4,250 gp. For that minor cost, you completely negate an entire school of magic.
01:54 <Ausk> Why bother with Iron Will, and Improved Iron Will, when you can just spend a few gp and get this?
01:54 <Ausk> Why does an item that allows you to live w/o food and water grant a resonant power that protects you vs. mind-affecting effects?
02:32 <Mort-> I read it before you did
02:55 <Mort-> I say it works but only on evil casters
03:09 <Mort-> Else why reference it to spell protection from evil
03:24 <Mekkis> link?
03:45 <Mort-> Its in seeker of secrets mek.
03:46 <Ausk> well its a good thing the world of PFS doesnt work according to mort, rather it works as per the designers
04:16 <Mort-> I just feel from the book it sounds like it functions like the spell protection from evil
04:28 <Mort-> Except no bonus to ac and saves
04:46 <Mort-> I knew it a long time ago mek
05:00 <Mort-> Sometimes my knowledge brings me to some obscure paths
05:19 <Mekkis> I meant, a link to that forum post
06:14 <Mort-> The first person i told about it was hydra
06:18 <Mort-> Lol
06:57 <Mort-> paizo.com/forums/dmtz3d70?Wayfinder-Clear-Spindle-Ioun-Stone-Protection#0
08:07 <Mort-> This second effect only functions against spells and effects created by evil creatures or objects, subject to GM discretion."
08:48 <Ausk> we are not talking about the second effect, we are talking about the third effect.
09:11 <Ausk> blah, im thinking of another book
09:15 <Ausk> hahahah
09:33 <Ausk> this is why i shouldnt get into rules discussions when its time to go to bed
10:02 <Mort-> Hm
11:17 <Ausk> Anyways, ive played nice for.... what a minute?
11:23 <Ausk> well several minutes now
11:31 <Ausk> I have completed the suggestion!
11:50 <Mekkis> Suggestion lasts 1 hour!
12:02 <Ausk> 1 hour/level or until completed
12:08 <Mekkis> I opened a notebook and found my DSP notes
12:15 <Mekkis> you haven't completed it
12:25 <Ausk> Yes ive been playing nice for several minutes now.
12:37 * Mort- purrs
12:43 * Ausk uses judgments to up resistances and AC
13:40 * Ausk burps in Morts face.
13:45 * Mort- decides to run off
13:51 <Mort-> Oh wait
14:01 * Mort- tries
14:11 <Mort-> Ausk. I would like some chocolate chip cookies
14:12 <Ausk> I dont have any weapons drawn.
14:20 <Ausk> you can run off.
14:22 <Mort-> Can you go and get them for me?
14:28 <Ausk> NOPE
14:37 <Ausk> You slapped me.  I scared you.  Seems Fair.
14:38 <Mort-> No. I'm asking you to get me some chocolate chip cookies
14:47 <Ausk> I refuse.
14:49 <Mort-> No. You're supposed to be nice
15:09 <Ausk> I was nice.  I satisfied the suggestion spell.  The compulsion ends.
15:12 <Mort-> Myz! You sure your suggestion spell worked too well?
15:45 <Mort-> Well i really would like some chocolate chip cookies
16:29 <Ausk> Suggestion only lasts for 1hr/level OR until the task is completed.  I didnt attack/scare you further, which for Ausk is about as 'play nice' as he gets.  Compusion ends.
16:51 <Ausk> He didnt ask me to go fetch you cookies.
17:46 <Mort-> Being nice should mean you try to make me happy.
17:57 <Mort-> Chocolate chip cookies would make me happy!
18:21 * Ausk Attempts to slap some sense into Mort.
18:32 <Mort-> Sanctuary
18:45 <Mort-> Not allowed.
19:00 <Ausk> sanctuary only lasts one round per level
19:08 <Ausk> its been forever...
19:14 <Ausk> you no longer have sanctuary
19:15 <Mort-> I have no clue who did it
19:25 <Mort-> Or the caster of whatever
19:40 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+13 Sense Slap
19:41 <diebot> Ausk, Sense Slap: [1d20=1] 14
19:44 <Mort-> Urm
19:52 <Mort-> Nat 1?
19:55 <Ausk> YUP
20:03 <Mort-> Full action run off
20:36 <Mort-> Actually can just 5 ft step back
20:44 <Mort-> And ddoor out
21:30 <Mekkis> Ausk, you presume my caster level isn't that high!
22:08 <Mekkis> and that I don't have extend spell
22:17 <Mekkis> or a 3.5e version of persist spell!
22:21 <Mort-> Seriously though
22:26 <Mort-> Who would cast it
22:39 <Ausk> what sanctuary?
22:42 <Mort-> You don't have a cleric or oracle mek.h
22:45 <Ausk> Its a decently useful spell.
23:12 <Mort-> I forget i can ddoor now...
23:26 <Ausk> yeah, go ahead.
24:14 * Mort- flaps wings
24:41 <Mekkis> heh
24:54 <Mekkis> I sent you both the link to the picture on Paizo's site
25:02 <Mekkis> but you both had +R :P
25:49 <Ausk> *cough cough* Chicken shit *cough cough*
26:37 * Mort- shrugs
27:13 <Ausk> so mort... gonna 5ft and ddoor?
29:24 <Ausk> also.... that map looks familiar...
29:30 <Mort-> Y not
29:33 <Mort-> I can't see anything
29:36 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+10 ranged, flat-footed touch attack at Ausk 
29:37 <diebot> Mekkis, ranged, flat-footed touch attack at Ausk: [1d20=5] 15
29:50 <Mekkis> oh
29:53 <Mekkis> add +2 to that
30:03 <Ausk> it would miss either way
30:10 <Ausk> !roll 1d20+15 spellcraft
30:11 <dicebot> Ausk, spellcraft: [1d20=18] 33
30:43 <Mekkis> really?
30:50 <Mekkis> how do you manage that?
31:01 <Mekkis> uncanny dodge?
31:19 <Ausk> really.  I can clearly see you because you didnt restealth
31:27 <Mekkis> invisibility?
31:32 <Mekkis> ,greater
31:43 <Ausk> you never cast it! boosh!
32:50 <Avatar> whta are you guys doing
32:56 <Ausk> dicking around mostly
33:06 <Mekkis> Ausk is trying to win against Ghandi
33:14 <Ausk> I was going to go to bed
33:23 <Ausk> but sam woke up, so theres no reason now.
33:26 <Mort-> He bullied me!
33:30 <Mekkis> !findchar Ghandi
33:34 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Ghandi, number: 233( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=233 )
33:40 <Ausk> excuse me.... who slapped who Mort?
33:53 <Mort-> Because you were being rude to him!
34:07 <Mort-> You said you didn't care about his privacy!
34:14 <Mort-> i stand up for my friends!
34:21 * Mort- fluffs up!
34:47 <Avatar> no you don't
34:50 <Avatar> you make them go first all the time
35:00 <Ausk> Oh noes... i dont care about a person ive never met face to face's privacy
35:29 <Mekkis> you become aware that any hostile actions will be met with DIRE CONSEQUENCES!
35:50 <Ausk> mostly i dont care about his privacy, because if he doesnt want to share he doesnt have to you dork!
36:01 <Mort-> I would care about anyones privacy!
36:08 <Ausk> at which point, you slapped me, and i roared at you
36:25 <Ausk> Since then ive made no hostile actions.
36:30 <Mort-> Because you said you didn't care about his privacy
36:58 <Ausk> oh sure, keep running to that excuse... cause its worked so well so far.
38:40 * Mort- fur fluffed
39:30 * Ausk feels satisfied
39:36 Ausk is now known as Steven
40:01 <Steven> Methinks its time for more cherry coke
41:35 <Steven> oh yeah...
41:40 <Steven> its tasty
42:16 <Steven> so... walter just sent me an email.  Told him about how my skull and shackles home brew was a failure to launch due to doucheness from josh
42:29 <Steven> inviting me to a new homebrew he is starting up
42:43 <Steven> His fell apart hardcore, and so he is tired of playing it.
43:09 <Steven> me and him went back and forth creating a pretty bad ass session for his players
43:22 <Steven> guy getting attacked by constructs
43:36 <Steven> party jumps in to save him but alas its one hit too many on him and he dies
44:32 <Steven> Party kills construts on the body they find a key to a shop, a letter, a box(artifact), and a writ of passage onto a boat.
45:37 <Steven> they dont bother reading the letter
46:43 <Steven> some guy shows up, says give me the box /insult /insult /insult, they hand the guy the box, buy passage on a boat and leave the area.
46:49 <Hydrazine> Maybe if it was a +1 letter.
47:31 <Steven> the didnt ask around town to find out who the guy was
48:01 <Steven> they put like zero effort into ti
48:32 <Steven> so walter was like well if you guys dont want to play, /end Homebrew
48:51 <Steven> and they were like no we want to play, we want to play
49:20 <Steven> but i guess its been like that for two weeks.
49:21 <Mort-> That's why for homebrews i let people take lead
49:37 <Mort-> People have done stuff like that more then i have
49:41 <Steven> they just phone it in on the roleplaying part and just rush into combat.
49:51 <Mort-> I still have a lot of hack and slash left on me
50:08 <Hydrazine> Well, different strokes for different folks and all, aslong as everyone's on the same page.
50:31 <Hydrazine> It sounds like the DM and the players want different kinds of games.
50:58 <Steven> no, the home brew was going on for around 3-4 months
52:01 <Steven> and before this they had been on top of it, but the last two weeks they just been like /minimum effort
52:27 <Mort-> Maybe bad day in rl?
52:34 <Steven> for 5 people?
52:36 <Mort-> We all have our mood swings
52:46 <Mort-> Try me at 2 am
52:47 <Steven> on 3 seperate days
53:22 <Mort-> I do remember my character was a tad grouchy that session ^^
53:46 <Steven> walter showed me all the content he already had written for the brew, and i would say its very easily paizo Module quality or better
54:11 <Steven> the players just refused to get into it.
54:29 <Steven> they did one encounter in an hour and a half.
55:01 <Steven> walter at the end of it just softballed the end encounter to them and they were just like, Meh, heres the artifact go rule the world.
55:14 <Mort-> Lol
55:46 <Mort-> Xyn will give it to the temple of sarenrae for safe keeping
55:47 <Mort-> :d
56:12 <Steven> because the BBEG he had set up was not supposed to come to them, they were supposed to follow some clues, had some interesting combats and finally a dungeon crawl to end boss
56:18 <Mort-> Mort would bring the artifact to her tower to do research on it
56:34 <Mort-> I think I'm slow at picking up clues
56:38 <Mekkis> so there was a lack of motivation
56:40 <Steven> but they were waiting in town for 3 days waiting for a ship to come in
56:53 <Steven> yeah complete lack of motivation.
56:59 <Steven> for 3 sessions.
57:09 <Mekkis> is that completely the player's fault?
57:10 <Steven> so he just ended it.
57:14 <Mort-> Again one thing is pfs is generally combat heavy and not so much into picking up clues and stuff
57:48 <Mort-> Generally ask vc what do you know about the region. Mission
58:09 <Mort-> Ok people lets pack bags and move out'
58:14 <Steven> I would say Majority of it on the players, i read the content he had, and what they had done before
58:27 <Steven> and it was fairly enguaging
59:03 <Steven> then the last week when i was helping him, we had a fairly large web of clues drawn out
59:20 <Steven> so they could pretty much do anything and it would get them somewhere else
59:39 <Steven> EXCEPT for just being like meh dude got killed, we got a cool box, lets wait for ship to come into town and then leave
00:56 <Hydrazine> Not quite as blatantly trying to get out of a campaign as selling all your worldly possessions and buying plane tickets to Russia.. but pretty bad.
00:57 <Steven> Anyways point being, Walter invited me to participate in the new homebrew he is making.  Woot woot!
01:16 <Hydrazine> Which I did in a game once. My god that was terrible.
01:33 <Mekkis> I should start a homebrew again
01:41 <Steven> since my home brew failed, his home brew failed
01:57 <Steven> so hes like well, lets start a new one up, since you're no longer busy, you can play in mine
02:25 <Steven> He knows I will at least push things in interesting directions
03:12 <Steven> Also, has anyone checked out the ARG?
03:25 <Steven> Humans... most powerful race EVER
03:35 <Hydrazine> Advanced races? No, haven't seen it yet.
03:55 <Steven> dude they can give up their bonus feat for another +2 in an ability score
03:58 <Hydrazine> But I am taking a peek at might of the Magus, and some of it seems like it might be absolutely ridiculous.
04:01 <Hydrazine> whaaat?
04:06 <Steven> i know right?
05:51 <Mort-> Yeah
06:05 <Mort-> Jerus could have started with 22 str
06:13 <Mort-> If the arg was to be believed
06:18 <Steven> no
06:26 <Mort-> Not?
06:34 <Mort-> I didn't really read that in detail
06:36 <Steven> its +2 in an ability score, and +2 in another ability score
06:46 <Mort-> But what did they write about magi
06:51 * Mort- ears perk up
07:54 <Mekkis> don't worry
08:03 <Mekkis> humans are still stupid and short-lived
08:40 <Hydrazine> Monks would certainly appreciate an extra +2 on top of a point buy.
09:09 <Hydrazine> How about longbowing spell combat with rapid shot, Mort?
11:07 <Mort-> It means you need a mymridach
11:16 <Hydrazine> Or just a couple feats.
11:27 <Mort-> now if only gambit wasn't stuck with cards...
11:29 <Mort-> No 
11:45 <Mort-> Mymridach lets you use ranged shocking grasp
11:55 <Hydrazine> Heres one. Use weapon's crit modifier for spellstrikes. All the magi switch to light picks..
12:06 <Mort-> I'm still trying to figure out if it works for duration melee touch
12:15 <Mort-> You won't crit
12:24 <Mort-> Keen has limitations hydra.
12:38 <Hydrazine> No.
12:46 <Hydrazine> I mean critting x4 on a shocking grasp.
12:52 <Mort-> Though you can say any magus will have his weapon "permanently keened" past 5
13:02 <Mort-> Its the trying to crit part
13:27 <Mort-> The reason why every magus ends up with a scimitar is the range
13:45 <Mort-> If i were doing skulls and shackles type adventure
13:49 <Hydrazine> Think this would change if they had an option to go for the modifier instead?
13:57 <Mort-> I would switch to cutlass
14:00 <Mort-> I think not.
14:24 <Mort-> Most people on the boards voted for bigger range opposed to higher crit mod
15:03 <Mort-> I think it would be cool to fire entangling arrows
15:09 <Mort-> But not sure how to do Thu
15:10 <Mort-> That
15:27 <Mort-> If ranged spell strike worked on frostbite
15:42 <Mort-> You could technically fire entangling arrows
15:49 <Hydrazine> Casting touch spells as AoOs.
16:15 <Mort-> With the frost bite damage doing once per round 1d6+ caster level
16:29 <Mort-> Time to get prehensile hair hex
16:37 <Mort-> What? You didn't know i had reach?
16:50 * Mort- tail slaps a shocking grasp :p
16:54 <Mort-> Wow cool
17:07 <Steven> Think i might buy the ARG
17:22 <Hydrazine> Huh. Thats actually kind of cool.
17:53 <Hydrazine> Metamagic to turn a touch spell into a shield sort of effect that triggers when they hit you.
18:07 <Mort-> What?
18:13 <Mort-> Explain that
18:34 <Hydrazine> You metamagic shocking grasp with this, go about your day.
18:48 <Hydrazine> stupid orc axes you, gets shocked like woah.
18:54 <Mort-> Oh oh
19:05 <Mort-> If i were a bbeg
19:22 <Mort-> I would either use protection from electricity
19:47 <Mort-> Or just throw a few mooks at the magus in question to set off the bomb
19:50 <Mort-> So to speak
20:08 <Mort-> Then move in
20:24 <Mort-> On hit its like defensive shock?
20:28 <Mort-> No saves?
20:32 <Mort-> Only sr?
22:33 * Hydrazine reads.
22:54 <Hydrazine> Spell goes off as normal. If its a spell with multiple charges it lasts for that many hits.
23:08 <Mort-> Kaboom.
23:28 <***> Buffer Playback...
23:28 <***> Playback Complete.
23:45 <Mort-> If you know a magus is after you. Always send mooks to defuse the bomb first
24:07 <Steven> OH MAN... ARG so good.
24:11 <Mort-> Actually what i would do
24:26 <Mort-> Is to use rime frostbite 
24:31 <Mort-> Then run into melee
24:41 <Mort-> Its like frost armor from wc3
24:50 <Mort-> Melee attackers get entangled
25:30 <Steven> Surprise Follow-Through
25:31 <Mort-> If its an undead day switch to chill touch instead
25:44 <Mort-> Hydra.You sure all this stuff is pfs legal?
25:51 <Hydrazine> It isn't in the least.
25:57 <Steven> Surprise Follow-Through (Combat)
25:58 <Steven> When striking one opponent, you catch its ally off guard. 
25:58 <Steven> Prerequisites: Str 13, Cleave, Power Attack, base attack 
25:58 <Steven> bonus +1. 
25:58 <Steven> Benef it: When using Cleave or Great Cleave, the second 
25:58 <Steven> foe you attack on your turn is denied its Dexterity bonus 
25:58 <Steven> against you.
26:18 <Hydrazine> nice.
26:26 <Steven> Improved Surprise Follow-Through (Combat)
26:27 <Steven> You follow up an attack with a surprising series of 
26:27 <Steven> sweeping blows.
26:27 <Steven> Prerequisites: Str 13, Cleave, Great Cleave, Power 
26:27 <Steven> Attack, Surprise Follow Through, base attack bonus +8. 
26:27 <Steven> Benef it: When using Great Cleave, each opponent you 
26:27 <Steven> attack on your turn (other than the f irst) is denied his 
26:27 <Steven> Dexterity bonus against you. 
26:36 <Hydrazine> That might actually get Jerus to cleave more.
27:44 <Mekkis> has Jerus hit 6th yet?
27:50 <Mort-> No!
27:59 <Mort-> Everyone is running low level stuff
28:22 <Mort-> I'm having to outsource morts adventuring to Google groups
29:58 <Mort-> Xyn is sort of permanently outsourced to Google groups
30:00 <Mort-> Anyway
30:13 <Steven> ok.  everyone.
30:27 <Steven> there is no reason EVER to play anything other then a human.
31:00 <Mekkis> disagree.
31:10 <Mort-> Actually i look foward to spell combat with a longbow
31:21 <Mort-> I'm thinking what kind of arrows i could get
31:21 <Mekkis> every enemy ranger I've seen took favoured enemy (human)
31:39 <Steven> disagree all you want mekkis, the ARG is making them sooooooooooo good
32:15 <Steven> Eye for Talent: Humans have great intuition for 
32:16 <Steven> hidden potential. They gain a +2 racial bonus on Sense 
32:16 <Steven> Motive checks. In addition, when they acquire an animal 
32:16 <Steven> companion, bonded mount, cohort, or familiar, that 
32:16 <Steven> creature gains a +2 bonus to one ability score of the 
32:16 <Steven> character’s choice. This racial trait replaces the bonus 
32:16 <Steven> feat trait.
32:43 <Mort-> Doesn't work on eidolons
32:50 <Steven> which is a good thing mort
33:06 <Mort-> And my ranger is half orc
33:35 <Steven> and half orcs got some pretty cool stuff in the arg
34:24 <Mort-> Unfortunately i already created
34:40 <Mort-> So i can't change or will change anything
36:33 <Mort-> What about under Magus it says: The Magus gains 1/6 of a new magus arcana. How do you interpret that?
36:35 <Mort-> Wtf?
36:39 <Mort-> I want that!
36:58 <Steven> yeah, you get 1/6 of a new arcana per level
37:02 <Mort-> Think its elf
37:03 <Mort-> Though
37:06 <Mort-> I'm human
37:11 <Steven> OR 1 arcana every 6 levels
37:45 <Mort-> Yeah which race
44:23 <Steven> alright, i am going to the store and then sam is gonna cook breakfast
44:35 <Steven> mmmmmmmmmm bacon
45:12 <Steven> see you all later today
46:28 <Mort-> K
50:40 <Mekkis> you know
50:53 <Mekkis> like the half-elf summoner gets 1/4 evolution point each level
51:04 <Mekkis> it's like a free Extra Evolution feat every 4 levels!
55:03 <Mort-> PFS Guide to Organized Play v4.1, Page 5: "If you wish to apply a legal archetype to your character, you may do so at 1st level as normal. Additionally, you may apply an archetype to an existing class any time you level up as long as the first alternate ability does not replace an ability granted at a previous level."
55:08 <Mort-> Ah 
55:14 <Mort-> I know
55:23 <Mort-> Xyn is half elf for a reason :p
55:39 <Mort-> She also doesn't have any stat below 10 :p
56:41 <Mort-> But magus arcana are good!
56:49 <Mort-> They mean more hexes!
57:10 <Mort-> Else i have to spend my feat slots on extra arcana
57:20 <Mort-> To get more hexes :(
58:31 * Mort- sniffs
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