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00:23 <Mort-> thats one thing I personally feel about using gm creds
00:30 <Mort-> you dont really get a FEEL of the character so to speak
00:44 <Mort-> or for that matter taking off after a too long break
00:48 <Mort-> hard to find your old boots
01:50 <Avatar> you're meant to use it to catch up with the people you play with so you don't get left behind
02:00 <Avatar> and say, take it in turns to GM
02:27 <Mort-> well I already am not Gming anything here
02:29 <Mort-> so point is moot
02:40 <Mort-> besides the only scnearios I could ever gm is FS1-3 + we be goblins and BTD2
02:46 <Mort-> not muchin range
02:47 <Mort-> so..
02:49 * Mort- shrugs
03:00 <Mort-> though technically the amount Ive played compared to what Ive gmed..is a LOT
03:01 <Mort-> so..
03:06 <Mort-> I should feel guilty but Im not :D
03:07 <Mort-> hahah
03:11 <Avatar> you bitch
03:17 <Mort-> Ouchhh..
03:19 <Mort-> that hurt...
03:20 <Avatar> :P
03:20 <Mort-> or not
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03:26 * Mort- laughs at avatar
03:31 <Avatar> you can afford scenarios
03:32 <Avatar> cmon
03:33 <Avatar> $4 a pop
03:37 <Mort-> I dont want to gm
03:40 <Mort-> remember what I said long time back?
03:41 <Mort-> :D
03:43 * Mort- laughs moar
03:44 <Avatar> yeah but you can
03:48 <Mort-> I could but I dont wish to
03:51 <Mort-> matter settled :)
04:07 <Avatar> you said the only scenarios you could ever GM is those 5
04:19 <Avatar> I assumed because of cost
04:22 <Mort-> ya as in have on hand
04:53 <Mort-> but anywae..points mooot :D
05:23 <Avatar> what about hydrazine
05:41 <Mort-> u ask him
05:42 <Mort-> dont ask me.
05:48 <Avatar> I am asking him
06:00 <Mort-> hes prolly asleep
06:14 <Avatar> or throwing up
06:19 * Mort- covers him with a pink fluffeh blanket
06:20 <Mort-> be nice
06:24 <Avatar> :P
06:27 <Avatar> that was pretty funny
06:42 <Mort-> he ate something that iddnt agree wit hhim
06:45 <Mort-> and failed his fort save
06:50 <Mort-> he is the one who keeps claiming he has a good one
06:53 <Avatar> at the exact same time his character became nauseated
06:58 <Mort-> me? germs can stay elswhere
06:59 <Mort-> yeah
07:00 <Avatar> what are the odds !
07:07 <Mort-> firstly. he was drinking before this
07:14 <Mort-> secondly, he probably drank too much
07:18 <Mort-> third. I put it to hangover.
08:20 <Avatar> might be worth multiclassing this cleric
08:26 <Avatar> give him gunslinger maybe
08:31 <Avatar> god I love guns
08:35 <Mort-> I dont think you want to
08:44 <Avatar> no not really
08:44 <Mort-> clerics have traditonally low dex
08:52 <Mort-> not sure if you can make use of it
08:55 <Avatar> this one has 10 str 10 dex
09:04 <Mort-> you better not
09:14 <Avatar> stick to spells
09:15 <Mort-> id probably make a better gunslinger
09:21 <Avatar> maybe spell penetration
09:25 <Mort-> not that I have intentions too though
09:31 <Avatar> we should be spell penetrating buddies mort
10:21 <Mort-> I penetrate better then joo anwyay
10:24 <Mort-> I suppose we could
10:34 <Avatar> I am not serious
10:35 <Avatar> it is a dumb idea
11:01 <Avatar> oh shit
11:12 <Avatar> this means we can play 7-11 scenarios with these characters
11:17 <Mort-> yes
11:21 <Mort-> I can play 7-11 scnearios
11:25 <Mort-> and be caught relaly flatfooted
11:26 <Avatar> well that's exciting
11:28 <Mort-> cos I havent seen the world out there
11:33 <Avatar> need to bump jerus up
11:37 <Mort-> keep trying
11:44 <Mort-> Ill sneak xyn and kalara around with the lowbies :p
12:10 <Mort-> but I think we would have TPKed had the entire group decided to Uptier today
12:12 <Mort-> at least my earlier game
12:21 <Mort-> as it is I had..uhhh quite a mess on my hands
12:41 <Mort-> glad I appeared as a syn I think
12:49 <Mort-> anything other then that would have gotten messy
12:51 <Mort-> flavour wise nice too
12:52 <Avatar> bonus spells adjust when you wear headbands, don't they
12:55 <Avatar> you get more?
12:58 <Mort-> yeah you do
12:59 <Mort-> and yes you do
13:01 <Avatar> fuck
13:47 <Mort-> Im not buying any headbands
13:53 <Mort-> prolly a wand of persistent
13:54 <Mort-> saving for it
14:08 <Avatar> I bought a headband upgrade for snickers and I am kind of regretting it
14:16 <Mort-> really not worth it?
14:17 <Avatar> I think she is too overpowered now
14:18 <Mort-> hexes are awesome
14:19 <Mort-> imo
14:28 <Mort-> uh play a few more 7-11 scenarios
14:33 <Mort-> with undead featuring in it
14:35 <Avatar> she has been
14:36 <Mort-> and Im sure youll cahnge your mind
14:40 <Mort-> witches dont work well vs te dead
14:43 <Avatar> yeah trust me I know
14:47 <Avatar> I played this scenario with snickers
14:48 <Mort-> have you been abusing slumber hex?
14:50 <Mort-> or misfortune?
14:51 <Avatar> you can imagine what that was like
14:51 <Mort-> lol
14:56 <Mort-> you can chill touch
14:58 <Mort-> like I did I guess
15:08 <Avatar> not sure if she gets it
15:12 <Mort-> you do
15:16 <Avatar> I certainly didn't think of that
15:18 <Mort-> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/chill-touch
15:25 <Mort-> I did think about it
15:39 <Avatar> I was on the backfoot the entire scenario
15:40 <Mort-> but didnt plan for swarms and stuff, I expected the final fight to be those advtuerers we were supposed ot find
15:43 <Mort-> courrupted or something
15:46 <Avatar> much like you were today, come to think of it
15:48 <Mort-> thats why I ditn take otu my humanoid stuff
15:49 <Mort-> yeah
15:58 <Mort-> but I did make some arrangements for undead
15:59 <Avatar> I swore a lot more
16:22 <Mort-> I thought the final fight would be vs a corrupted adventuring party
16:25 <Mort-> though..
16:31 <Mort-> so my spellline up sort of reflected it
16:54 <Mort-> I think Ill get kalara to pick up chill touch as well just in case, and carry one with her at all times
17:00 <Mort-> though her dcs are really going to suck..
17:17 <Mort-> and I really do NOT imagine her wanting to WALK up to a ghoul and touch it
18:23 <Mort-> I just wish xyniel would be able to learn it
18:28 <Mort-> but it wont be possible
36:58 <Avatar> I wanted to have a good look around for feats but I feel stupid not taking spell penetration
37:07 <Avatar> I'm magic-based, nothing is going to beat it
38:03 <Mort-> yeah prolly and I havent had much time with SR yet
38:05 <Mort-> will see
38:07 <Avatar> on the other hand, I'm a buffer
39:02 <Mort-> Im a buffer too
39:10 <Mort-> more or less
39:32 <Mort-> well prolly time to become a fluffeh mur soon
44:20 <Mort-> how does magic jar work..
44:22 * Mort- ponders
46:16 <Avatar> are you pondering or reading guides
46:23 <Avatar> because the only time I've ever asked that question is when reading guides
49:18 <Mort-> reading magic jar spell
49:21 <Mort-> looks like a fun thing to do
49:22 <Mort-> but confusing
49:31 <Mort-> how to pretend you are a lich
49:36 <Mort-> (it isnt even evil..)
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57:53 <OrangeShark> Hello
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13:34 <Novel> How long do games go on for?
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01:33 <mortswishytail> Oh dear
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04:21 <Mort-> If anyone has played blackwater here please tug my tail
57:07 <Mort-> Oh! What a cute gnome sorceror!
57:18 * Mort- giggles a bit
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15:35 <Brunius> what
15:39 <Brunius> I've played Black Waters
15:52 <Brunius> Is that what you mean?
16:28 <Brunius> Mort-
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04:44 <MincedSushi> Avatar, Mark me down for the same time except I'll be running The infernal vault I'm thinking tier 3-4 although if you think there will be interest 6-7 is doable. 
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00:47 <Mort-> Infernal vault lol?
01:02 <Mort-> Are you trying to corrupt xyn? :p
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03:29 <Mekkis> no
03:37 <Mort-> Heh
03:50 <Mort-> 3-4 it is then
04:08 <Mort-> Mekkis you haven't played black waters yet right
04:18 <Mort-> Would like to talk to you about it if you have
05:25 <Mekkis> I've played it
05:33 <Mekkis> haven't played Infernal Vault
05:33 <Mort-> Ok
05:37 <Mort-> Will pm you 
05:39 <Mekkis> but I think Deceased will go there
05:47 <Mekkis> and corrupt Xyb
05:48 <Mekkis> Xyn
05:59 <Mort-> No!
06:12 <Mort-> Or maybe they could drink khafe at a tavern
06:37 <Mekkis> and spike his drink
07:47 <Mort-> Her
07:53 <Mort-> She has sense motive too but
07:54 <Mort-> Actually
08:00 <Mort-> Rudimentary
08:13 <Mort-> And be nice. She's sweet
10:30 <MincedSushi> Infernal Vaults is a pretty simple dungeon crawl
10:46 <MincedSushi> I looked it over and it was fun looking
10:49 <Mort-> The thing is
11:00 <Mort-> They are trying to corrupt my syn
27:34 <Mort-> For t 3-4 xyn is about the best tank i can offer
27:45 <Mort-> But i think infernal vault also will hamper her
28:05 <Mort-> Either xyn or grull for true tanking power
28:31 <Mort-> Kalara uh - cannot make it. Need a primary tank
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31:37 <MincedSushi> xD
31:57 <MincedSushi> I'm not sure who else will be joinins us but I like Grull
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32:02 <MincedSushi> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=439
32:06 <MincedSushi> My new wizard
32:15 <MincedSushi> He evokes the shit out of things xD
33:26 <MincedSushi> He will be going 5wiz 1 fighter then taking Eldritch knight
33:51 <MincedSushi> Using the fighter feat for unarmed strike and going up Kirin style with the eldritch knight feats
35:01 <MincedSushi> Since I'm admixture I'll be taking elemental spec and greater elemental spec for fire.
35:16 <MincedSushi> I'll havea  +4 to dc with all my evocation spells ^^
37:43 <Hydrazine> G'day Sushi.
38:42 <Hydrazine> 7 str? Is that spellbook too heavy for ya, shrimpy?
38:58 <Mort-> If you want sheer staying power get xyn
39:06 <Mort-> She has an unholy amount of hp
39:22 <Hydrazine> because Syns aren't fair.
39:29 <Mort-> Yeah 33 ftw
39:31 <MincedSushi> The spellbok is a tenth of my carry capcity xD
39:43 <Mort-> 20 ac and a scary bite at will
39:48 <Hydrazine> lol. 10 CMD.
39:53 <Mort-> But if you really need a tank year
39:54 <Mort-> Yes
40:11 <Mort-> Better if someone sets flanks for her though
40:18 <Mort-> Her dpr goes up
40:21 <MincedSushi> When we get closser tot he game we will find out~
40:23 <Mort-> Baby sneak attack
40:28 <Hydrazine> Hokubi's a great tank, provided we're talking opponents we can isolate.
40:55 <Hydrazine> His targets tend to do very little fighting back.
40:58 <Mort-> Lol
41:05 <Mort-> Up to you
41:12 <Hydrazine> And if they're casters, forget about it.
41:15 <Mort-> Ill bring kalara? :p
41:31 <Hydrazine> especially since most true casters have terrible CMDs.
41:34 <Mort-> But means i have to get my scimitar dirty :(
41:40 * Mort- wails
42:17 <MincedSushi> That's true as far as cmd goes. But if you get to me past level 2 spells I'm doing something wrong
42:50 <Hydrazine> I think he'll still be effective later on.
42:57 <Hydrazine> But, could be wrong. Curious to see.
43:00 <MincedSushi> Early on I'm screwd. Got to use a lot of control spells for early wizard. Once you hit 5 you cna transistion toward dmage
43:08 <Hydrazine> I think hes definately my number 2 man, under Jerus.
43:20 <MincedSushi> Jerus is fun~
43:50 <Hydrazine> Hes goes smashy smashy
44:06 <Hydrazine> Hey Sushi, why not a haramaki on the wizard?
44:16 <MincedSushi> Haramaki?
44:16 <Hydrazine> 1 ac, no spell failure or acp.
44:28 <MincedSushi> I'm not framilier with stuff otuside the books
44:29 <Hydrazine> so the fact that you aren't proficient means diddly.
44:37 <MincedSushi> yep
45:01 <Hydrazine> Its pretty much fancy clothing that counts as +1 AC armor.
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45:15 <MincedSushi> I'll pick it up
45:23 <Hydrazine> Theres not really a good reason not to, way I see it.
45:25 <MincedSushi> Since I don't and won't have mage armor ever
45:27 <Hydrazine> Doesn't hinder you.
45:50 <Hydrazine> Remember when concentration was a skill?
46:12 <MincedSushi> Do I ever
46:13 <Hydrazine> So ya like Jerus huh? I think hes a pretty cool bastard.
46:18 <MincedSushi> fricken skill sink it was
46:30 <Hydrazine> Skill points didn't go so far in 3.5
46:34 <Hydrazine> listen, spot, search..
46:38 <MincedSushi> No they did not
46:41 <Hydrazine> I mean, if you're a fighter, thats pretty much it.
47:00 <MincedSushi> Unless you're a rogue don't expect much
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47:08 <Hydrazine> Not to mention balance climb and swim, just to be able to move around.
47:22 <MincedSushi> You forgot tumble and jump
47:29 <MincedSushi> Everyone likes some tumble
47:37 <Hydrazine> I was going on the line that plate fighters just don't tumble.
47:52 <MincedSushi> Neither dot hey balance or swim xD
48:13 <Hydrazine> We either 5 foot step across the battlefield, wading through the bodies of our killing spree, eat the AoO, or just don't freakin' move.
48:32 <MincedSushi> ^
48:37 <Hydrazine> Logically if I'm a fighter, it means the fight is happening where ever I am, right?
48:56 <Hydrazine> Hey, it works for Jerus atleast half the time.
49:10 <Hydrazine> You didn't even see SuperJerus, Sushi!
49:44 <MincedSushi> Super?
50:23 <Hydrazine> Mort likes to enlarge him. 20ft reach mode. Generally this means the map isn't big enough for baddies to not be in trouble.
50:36 <MincedSushi> lol
50:44 <MincedSushi> Whirlwind much?
50:47 <Hydrazine> Especially since there isn't an adjacent clause in cleaving finish.
51:01 <MincedSushi> No there is not
51:14 <Hydrazine> So you can doublekill two guys 40 feet away from eachother, just because they showed up.
51:39 <Hydrazine> Quantum University Graduate? Badass.
51:47 <Hydrazine> Jeez, got enough languages?
52:04 <MincedSushi> Nope
52:07 <MincedSushi> Need more
52:12 <MincedSushi> I'll get mroe too
52:19 <Hydrazine> Who takes Sylvan? Only wimps speak Sylvan.
52:26 <MincedSushi> I need to pick up ignan and undercommon
52:28 <Hydrazine> Thus, aren't worth talking to.
52:34 <MincedSushi> lol
52:44 <MincedSushi> If there's anything that's goign to give me trouble it's fey
52:55 <MincedSushi> I prefer to be able to speak with things that will destroy me
53:01 * Mort- bites hydrazine
53:14 <Mort-> I take sylvan
53:21 <Hydrazine> You would.
53:27 <Mort-> Xyn even learnt celestial
53:28 <Mort-> Lol
53:29 <MincedSushi> Cursing in Sylvan is like wiping your ass with silk
53:42 <MincedSushi> true story
53:42 <Hydrazine> Matrix quotes.
54:11 <Hydrazine> What sort of feats this guy taking?
54:23 <MincedSushi> Elemental focues fire
54:28 <MincedSushi> Unarmed stirike
54:31 <Hydrazine> unarmed?
54:32 <Hydrazine> really?
54:34 <MincedSushi> the kirin style feats
54:44 <MincedSushi> Double int mod to dmaage after a range attack
55:00 <MincedSushi> which at that point will be 12damage
55:10 <MincedSushi> Besides what else would I take with my fighter feats
55:41 <Hydrazine> So I figured out what I don't like about south Florida now.
55:48 <MincedSushi> Aswell as superior maneuverability 
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55:50 <Hydrazine> Theres no good rock stations on the radio here.
55:56 <MincedSushi> It's humid
55:57 <MincedSushi> ?
56:00 <MincedSushi> lol
56:05 <MincedSushi> Pandora more
56:33 <Hydrazine> I recently internet radio'd up a station I found when I was in San Diego. Much better.
56:36 <MincedSushi> As for metamagics I'm still considering a bunch of them.
56:43 <MincedSushi> Yep~
56:58 <MincedSushi> I internet radio like crazy
58:37 <Hydrazine> I hadn't considered kirin style on a wizard. I've looked at and admired the badassery of several styles, but I hadn't gotten to kirin.
58:39 <Hydrazine> Interesting.
58:55 <MincedSushi> It's nice isn't it?
58:55 <Mort-> I don't know what should my level 7 feat be
58:59 <Hydrazine> Pretty cool.
59:27 <MincedSushi> The first is jsut a nice bonus
59:31 <MincedSushi> the second is stupid damage
59:39 <MincedSushi> and the third is positioning perfection
59:48 <Hydrazine> Means you gotta be in range though,
59:55 <Hydrazine> Which could go badly for you, mr 10 con.
00:08 <MincedSushi> THat is true
00:17 <MincedSushi> But I'm find
00:21 <MincedSushi> fine~
00:34 <Hydrazine> Bring Hoku along, he'll help.
00:39 <MincedSushi> :D
01:08 <Hydrazine> I consider taking unarmed and dragon style on Jerus.
01:43 <Hydrazine> Two feats to charge or run through difficult terrain and friendly squares?
02:56 <MincedSushi> Hmmm
03:03 <MincedSushi> That might be worth it
03:18 <Hydrazine> What I said.
03:29 <MincedSushi> AS a fighter I say go for it
03:51 <Hydrazine> But I think my immediate priorities are great trip at 6 and I think I'm looking at an exotic weapon prof at 7.
04:13 <MincedSushi> What weapon are you moving to?
06:42 <Hydrazine> Fauchard I think.
08:44 <Mort-> I'm going to run around stark naked :p
09:00 <Hydrazine> Oh baby.
09:18 <MincedSushi> xD
09:40 <Mort-> Well most scenarios on her
09:45 <MincedSushi> I just see a lemur sitting ina  chair xD
09:54 <Mort-> Its like i don't really do much with my gear
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10:19 <Mort-> Resource efficient id say
10:22 <Mort-> I don't use my magic
10:22 <Mort-> Except for mage armor
10:49 <Mort-> I don't have much magic
11:07 <MincedSushi> Always fun~
11:57 <Mort-> Its like I'm a muggle
12:23 <Mort-> But dr is xyns biggest enemy
12:29 <MincedSushi> WHere is that armor at Hydra?
12:45 <MincedSushi> UC?
14:34 <Mort-> I think
14:46 <Hydrazine> Think so.
14:54 <Hydrazine> With all the asian stuff.
14:58 <Mort-> I was the one who taught the channel about haramakis
15:00 <MincedSushi> btw I love Kikko armor
15:08 <MincedSushi> ALways have always will
15:19 <Mort-> We should roll a kitsune some day
15:22 <MincedSushi> They look so good and they are so easy to move in~
15:29 <MincedSushi> I havea  ktisune oracle
15:36 <MincedSushi> Wears a kikko :D
15:39 <Mort-> So cool
15:51 <Mort-> I love furry races
15:58 <MincedSushi> He's a life oracle who banishes spirits
16:03 <Mort-> i think grull will get a cat
16:07 <Mort-> Meow
16:09 <MincedSushi> Kitty!
16:16 <Mort-> Too much forgotten realms
16:23 <Mort-> And a certain dark elf ranger
17:17 <Mort-> Seriously hydra. Can hoku be my flank buddy? :p
17:37 <Mort-> Mek thinks he may be bringing deceased
17:43 <Mort-> Urgh. Rp time
17:44 <Mort-> Lol
18:18 <Mort-> Xyn definitely won't get along well with someone who runs around with imps
18:53 <Mort-> I sure hope he watches how he aims his pits
19:34 <MincedSushi> xD
19:55 <Mort-> No he knows how to aim stuff
20:16 <Mort-> Its just he has a reputation of doing not nice things to his party members
20:34 <Hydrazine> Hoku? Flank?
20:35 <Mort-> His callsign is "colleteral damage"
20:42 <Mort-> If it helps :p
20:43 <Hydrazine> Gotta give me a few levels to actually be a flanking buddy.
20:48 <Hydrazine> I don't provoke yet.
20:49 <Mort-> Yeah
21:05 <Hydrazine> Er, threaten.
21:06 <Mort-> Come on. Just tumble behind him
21:14 <Mort-> And we can have fun flanking
21:39 <Mort-> If you don't do it ill eat aoos till i can get to his back
22:14 <Mort-> I think xyn is about the only character i have that would try that kind of stunt
23:52 <Mort-> Like walk into aoos to get flanking
25:52 <Hydrazine> I mean, Hoku can currently either flank stuff, OR be effective himself.
25:56 <Hydrazine> Later on he can do both.
26:01 <Mort-> Ah
26:11 <Mort-> Just gimme flanks
26:17 <Mort-> Can't hit for nuts
26:20 <Mort-> Lol
26:23 <Mort-> And no sa
26:42 <Mort-> Id specutate my damage output doubles on flanking
38:13 <Hydrazine> Probably.
38:53 <Mort-> Add  sneak attack to the list lol
38:56 <Mort-> But maybe not
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52:14 * Mort- hasn't been studying melee arts much
55:40 <Mort-> Or i could bring kalara and let you do your stuff while i flurry
58:51 <MincedSushi> What lvl is kalara
59:00 <Mort-> 2
59:02 <Mort-> Lol
59:12 <Mort-> Grull is 2 too
59:17 <Mort-> Is hoku 2?
59:18 <MincedSushi> You don't have anyone between 3 and 5?
59:21 <Mort-> I think so
59:24 <Mort-> Xyn
59:26 <Mort-> Lol 
59:46 <Mort-> Who gets banned from games here on a regular basis
59:47 <Mort-> Haha
00:01 <MincedSushi> SInce I'm planing on doing 3-4 on a dungeon crawl you might want to consider higher
00:17 <Mort-> Its ok i can hide more :d
00:30 <MincedSushi> And let your allies die?
00:32 <Mort-> I do want to level her up
00:43 <Mort-> Point is she doesn't care
00:44 <Mort-> :d
00:52 <MincedSushi> kay~
00:55 <Mort-> Haha. Its a different principle allj together
01:34 <Mort-> Its like if i can save your ass i will. But don't expect crazy heroics from me
01:43 <Mort-> Lol
02:03 <Mort-> Nor would i feel guilty if i failed to. Crap happens
02:13 <Mort-> Fun person to play heh
02:24 * Mort- grows a pair of horns
12:24 <Avatar> this could be a pretty sexy cleric feat for me: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/glorious-heat
14:03 <MincedSushi> ??
14:20 <Avatar> my cleric levelled up
14:53 <Mort-> How many ire spells are kidsd
14:54 <Mort-> Are
15:01 <Mort-> Divine fire
15:13 <Hydrazine> hokubi is 2 i think.
15:19 <Avatar> I have fire domain
15:49 <Mort-> Ok
16:07 <Mort-> So if we are playing 3-4 i better bring xyn?
16:13 <Mort-> Else we should play 
16:20 <Mort-> 1-2?
16:22 <Avatar> there was a cleric guide that listed fire domain as one of the worst ones available, but I really like it
16:43 <Avatar> we'll decide tier when we have enough players
16:56 <Avatar> like on the day
17:10 <Avatar> nobody except me has actually accepted
17:14 <Avatar> !
17:18 <Mort-> I did
17:23 <Avatar> doesn't look like it
17:26 <Mort-> Did the stupid thing not work again?
17:31 <Mort-> I did it on cell
17:39 <Avatar> via IRC or the site?
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18:00 <Mort-> Irc duh
18:10 <Avatar> do you have mode R
18:12 <Avatar> on
18:18 <Avatar> because it wouldnt' have received it
18:27 <Mort-> Not sure
18:37 <Avatar> put in your autoperform /mode Mort- -R
22:00 <MincedSushi> DO you guys want to do 1-2? I thought you guys wouldn have outleveld that by now on your mains
22:51 <Mort-> We aren't playing our mains
23:02 <Avatar> I don't mind iether way
23:43 <MincedSushi> Well there's the problem
23:49 <Avatar> I quite like all my characters :o)
23:54 <MincedSushi> I wanted to run a game for everyones mains
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24:06 <Mort-> That will need 6-7
24:16 <MincedSushi> there is a 6-7
24:23 <Mort-> Then hydra uses jerus ill grab mort
24:26 <MincedSushi> I aske dif I should run that
24:39 <Mort-> Who else has mains around that level
24:41 <Mort-> Mek?
24:48 <Mort-> Itz or out leveled?
25:13 <Mort-> I think buck and snickers are 8
25:14 <Hydrazine> Jerus is only 5.
25:23 <Mort-> There is always artimus
25:37 <Avatar> cairo and snickers is 7, buck is 8
25:38 <Mort-> Mort is 7
25:48 <Avatar> landruff is 2
25:51 <Mort-> So its probably snickers
25:54 <Avatar> and I have too many 1s to count
26:06 <Avatar> toro is 2 as well, ninja
26:09 <Mort-> Get ballig to pop on artimus
26:30 <Mort-> And hydra. We have a gnome to redeem!
26:33 <Avatar> don't know about caleth
26:54 <Mort-> Oh i bet he has higher level forms
26:55 <Hydrazine> So I need to catch up.
27:11 <Mort-> Just not sure if they are syn/pallies :p
27:36 <Mort-> I can easily play one of my alts
28:02 <Mort-> But that's 3-4 or 1-2
28:32 <Mort-> The whole of Google groups seems fond of syn pallies
28:42 <Hydrazine> I need to get Hoku up to the 3+ range too.
28:43 <Mort-> I bet everyone has at least one
29:14 <Mort-> If i played on kalara i would do 1-2
29:22 <Avatar> that feat I pointed out is pretty garbage actually, it'll heal like 3hp
29:26 <Avatar> on a good day
30:04 <Mort-> Unless there is a solid tank. I'm not tanking any shit on my magus
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30:43 <Mort-> Ill be a nice flanking buddy though
31:02 <Mort-> Ask avatar how much hiding i did ^^
31:15 <Hydrazine> No, its not that great Avatar.
31:45 <Mort-> First question i would ask is how many divine fire spells were there
32:58 <Mort-> Remember my fetish on divine magic?
32:59 <Mort-> Lol
33:08 <Mort-> Can't use any
35:16 <Avatar> i've got fire domain spells mort
35:55 <Mekkis> I have Deceased at 5, Itzamna at 6, and Grolschmir at 7
36:14 <Mort-> Ooh grolsh
36:27 <Mekkis> Deceased wants to meet Mort
36:33 <Avatar> what class is decesased again
36:33 <Mort-> But we want to redeem your gnome :p
36:42 <Mort-> Don't
36:50 <Mort-> Morts having issues atm
36:56 <Mort-> She feels the dark side
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38:44 <Mort-> Deceased is wizzi
38:46 <Mort-> E
38:59 <Mort-> But we are due for some gnome redemption
39:05 <Mort-> All your fault avatar
39:25 <Mort-> You and trist should have stopped him from falling to the dark side :(
39:53 <Mort-> I think deceased is bad company for mort
40:25 <Mort-> Btw has deceased got his imp yet?
40:45 <Mort-> = xyniel will get irritated
40:54 <Mort-> And probably yes its the tavern
41:02 <Mort-> And a long talk
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41:19 <Mort-> Even mort could
41:34 <Mort-> Enough planes knowledge for it
42:00 <Mort-> But mort isn't exactly in the mood for it
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45:37 <Avatar> tristen's in on saturday
51:30 <Mort-> Oskar ooh
51:39 <Mort-> He said he would play?
58:22 <Avatar> he's accepted on the schedule before you have !
02:23 <Mort-> I blame computer bugs
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04:48 <Steven> alright
04:49 <Steven> so
04:59 <Steven> 4 players 6 deaths tonight
05:28 <Steven> 4 on the paladin, 1 on the other cleric, 1 on the tower shield fighter, 0 on Folnor
16:55 <Mort-> Invis?
17:11 <Mort-> Do you come back from the dead that easily.g.
17:20 <Mort-> Or is it breadth of life
17:48 <Avatar> you had one player die 4 times in a single scenario?
18:03 <Steven> YUP
18:29 <Steven> we count breath of life as a death
18:57 <Steven> because if Folnor wasnt packing them, it would be bye bye paladin
19:15 <Steven> stupid ass paladin basically told an Adult dragon to suck a dick, lets fight
20:28 <Steven> so.... she was like, cool story bro, death, breath of life, death, breath of life, death folnor says yo forgive us our paladin companion, take all his gear and let us pass
20:52 <Steven> evil dragon is like..... sure sounds good
21:39 <Steven> some other things killed them all earlier
21:50 <Steven> Folnor is the big winner!
22:06 <Steven> he didnt even chip in on any of the rezzes
22:37 <Steven> cause screw those idiots who pick fights with dragons and other nasty things easily avoided
23:09 <Mort-> So there are times you should not pick a fight with a dragon?
23:16 * Mort- ponders
23:31 <Steven> yeah... like whenever you can avoid it.
23:36 <Steven> going to the store
23:38 <Steven> need supplies.
26:13 <Mort-> Ah i have some things for xyn to ponder about
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47:56 <Mort-> Does that mean not all evil things can be killed.h
48:15 <Mort-> And sometimes there is no choice but to negotiate with evil?
49:00 <Steven> we could have killed it if the paladin hadnt gone and done the stupid thing by flat out calling the Dragon
04:04 <Mekkis> Steven, what scenario?
13:11 <Steven> its an in the weave one
16:00 <Steven> mebe
36:09 <Avatar> don't think you should spill all the details about what not to do and then ask what scenario
42:43 <Mekkis> I think I've played that scenario
46:15 <Avatar> not everyone has
48:18 <Mekkis> which is why I /noticed the scenario I thought it was
11:16 <Mort-> Xyn has the tendency to charge into things too
11:24 <Mort-> Need to take note of that
11:40 <Avatar> quick channel is pretty sweet
11:53 <Avatar> potentially 8d6 healing in one round to everyone within 30ft
14:19 <Avatar> ooer, versatile channel lets me channel negative energy
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25:34 <Mort-> That sounds more interesting
25:37 <Mort-> Really
27:44 <Hydrazine> Leveling up a cleric?
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37:47 <Mort-> Avatar has a cleric he doesn't play much
37:48 <Mort-> Lol
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39:09 <Mort-> Hi oster :d
44:25 <Mort-> I wonder how many of us actually like playing clerics here
49:30 <Avatar> I wonder how many of us actually play clerics here
49:37 <Avatar> in order to like them
50:33 <Avatar> I put that cleric in retirement because the build was completely broken
50:52 <Avatar> he's decent now because i've been feeding him GM credit so he can be a decent spellcaster
51:09 <Mort-> What were your feats
51:30 <Avatar> extra channeling, selective channeling
51:38 <Avatar> fleet
51:49 <Avatar> I had another one that was so useless that it never worked
51:51 <Mort-> If ballig isn't playing artimus might be an idea to bring cairo out
52:08 <Avatar> I'd prefer to play snickers over cairo
52:14 <Mort-> Else probably snickers
52:33 <Avatar> snickers can heal
52:41 <Mort-> Which is ok i think. Should i start summoning monsters
52:52 <Mort-> Our tank is a little under leveled :p
53:02 <Mort-> No issues though :p
53:10 <Mort-> Need to cc better
53:14 <Mekkis> Grolschmir can heal
53:18 <Avatar> we're all super optimised so I don't think there'll be any issues
53:27 <Mekkis> not Deceased
53:46 <Avatar> grolschmir is a dumb healer from what I learned last time
54:08 <Avatar> what did you say when we asked grolschmir to heal before a game started
54:24 <Avatar> only if you're in the negatives or something
56:24 <Mekkis> he generally avoids in-combat healing
56:34 <Mekkis> because he has better things to do in combat
02:20 <Mort-> But we want to redeem gnomes mek!
02:40 <Mort-> We haven't seen our good friend itzamna for a long time
02:52 <Mort-> And we heard he's walking down the dark side!
03:10 <Mort-> Actually mort might be headed that way too :(
03:20 * Mort- sniffs
03:48 <Hydrazine> I need to get Hoku up to 3 I think.
03:59 <Mort-> Lol
04:02 <Hydrazine> I considered making a cleric, but its just too far down my list right now.
04:06 <Mort-> We can do it sometime later
04:20 <Mort-> Party with our mains!
04:50 <Mort-> How do you feel doing a 3-4 at level 2 hydra?
05:14 <Mort-> Or a whole party of 2s
06:51 <Hydrazine> Like its probably a bad idea.
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10:53 <Mort-> Even with one 3? :p
10:59 <Mort-> Or not heh
11:15 <Mort-> Else ill just bring kalara if you're feeling hoku
12:34 * Mort- shrugs
23:37 <Brunius> hmmm
26:32 <Mort-> Hi bru
26:41 * Mort- nuzzles bru
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30:29 <Urist> Hello
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33:50 <Hydrazine> G'day.
37:10 <Avatar> urist
37:15 <Avatar> that name rings a bell
37:29 <Mort-> Hm
37:41 <Mort-> just got yelled at again.
37:42 <Mort-> Hm
37:47 <Avatar> hm
38:03 <Mort-> Maybe taking side trips while at work isn't a good idea
38:19 <Mort-> Well i was told to collect some stuff
38:25 <Mort-> So i went to collect stuff
39:10 <Mort-> Place only opens during office hours anyway
40:00 <Brunius> Are they allowed to yell at you
40:06 <Brunius> In Australia, that's frowned upon.
44:04 <Mort-> Well not exactly
44:35 <Brunius> It's funny watching the flame war go down in this thread
44:38 <Mort-> Two different people want me to do two different things
44:38 <Brunius> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/454372.page (NSFW)
44:54 <Mort-> One job is something i can see its end
45:12 <Mort-> One job is something i can't see how long it will take to do it
45:26 <Mort-> So what do i do? Do the job that i can see the end off
45:37 <Brunius> Hang on, who is actually supposed to be telling you what to do?
46:03 <Mort-> I report to 2 different people
46:15 <Mort-> My time is shared so to speak
46:30 <Brunius> Reporting to two different people may be a slight problem here
46:35 <Mort-> If i concentrate all onto that one job
47:14 <Mort-> At the end of the day it still wouldn't get done
47:33 <Mort-> And the other person would come and ask me why didn't i do his job
47:49 <Mort-> I know the other persons job can be done
48:32 <Mort-> Then the first person asks why didn't i do his job
48:33 <Brunius> How is mincedsushi as a DM?
48:39 <Avatar> really good
48:43 <Mort-> Fun
48:49 * Mort- squeals
49:01 <Hydrazine> I give him a thumbs up.
49:30 <Mort-> And now the first person asked me why haven't i been doing his job
49:51 <Mort-> The second person just made me do some work and labelled it as urgent
50:04 <Brunius> Tell them this.
50:05 <Mort-> Basically the second persons work is always urgent
50:13 <Brunius> Let the problem escalate up the chain
50:44 <Mort-> They think i shouldn't be so willing to help the second person
51:04 <Avatar> there's this thing called managing upwards, mort
51:10 <Mort-> But I'm a helpful mur
51:12 <Avatar> managers need to be educated by their staff sometimes
51:15 <Mort-> I always help people
51:43 <Hydrazine> I find managers often need to be educated by their staff.
51:53 <Hydrazine> I had alot of experience with this in the service.
52:00 <Mort-> I don't like to speak up in real life
52:27 <Mort-> And honestly yes i could have collected the documents on my way back home
52:53 <Mort-> But i didn't want to because i feel nervous with legal documents in my bag
52:59 <Mort-> Originals too
53:08 <Mort-> I rather stash them back in the office
53:14 <Hydrazine> The funny part's the officers who don't learn. So we let them fuck things up until the captain calls back to ask wtf hes doing.
54:23 <Mort-> The first person will accept if the second person asks me to do stuff but not his secretary
54:40 <Mort-> The way i view it I'm rented over to their department
54:47 <Urist> Yeah my name comes from DF, anyway i was wondering if anyof you know an irc that i could join to play some D&D 3.5?
54:58 <Mort-> So anyone down there can tell me to do whatever and i can't say no
55:55 <Mort-> The first person thinks i shouldn't let the second persons secretary tell me to do stuff
56:04 <Mort-> Oh my
56:08 <Mort-> What a mess
58:56 <Mort-> I think i shall bring home the second persons work and do the first persons work in the office
00:11 * Mort- is a confused mur now
00:28 <Mort-> Then ill have to step on my dads toes for stealing his comp at home
00:29 <Mort-> Sigh
01:48 <Avatar> Urist: yeah, here
01:56 <Avatar> have you played before
02:22 <Urist> in irl yes, but not over the internet
02:22 <Mort-> Tell me about soap stories
02:34 <Mort-> I do it the other way round
03:21 <Brunius> We play pathfinder here, which isn't too different to 3.5
03:48 <Hydrazine> As a big 3.5 fan myself, I was a bit skeptical at first, but I'm coming around to like most of the changes.
03:51 <Urist> Ah, what times do you play?
04:06 <Brunius> 7 hours ago is our normal start time
04:11 <Brunius> or 2 hours before that
04:19 <Brunius> What's your timezone?
04:28 <Urist> GMT :(
04:38 <Brunius> So 1am or 3am games :(
05:14 <Avatar> Urist: what's your availability, your local time
05:37 <Urist> well im off uni at the moment so i might be able for it, how often do you play? how long do you play?
05:50 <Avatar> couple of times a week
05:52 <Urist> its 11.05 am at the moment
05:58 <Avatar> games last about 5-6 odd hours
06:30 <Urist> yeah i could try once or twice and see how it goes
07:40 <Urist> just incase this does not suit do you know of any european irc channels?
09:05 <Brunius> You could try freenode
09:08 <Brunius> euIRC
09:26 <Urist> thanks mate :)
09:29 <Avatar> when are you able to play urist
09:53 <Brunius> Looks like the euIRC one is actually for DDO
10:44 <Urist> im easy really, 1 am is cutting a bit close to the mark though, if we start then it would be fine
11:08 <Urist> ah shame, thanks anyway Brunius
12:54 <Hydrazine> Screw them, just play with us.
13:19 <Hydrazine> I mean, we got some Aussies and a few Americans, we even have a girl or two! We're way cooler than those other guys.
14:13 <Urist> haha, ok so what type of char are you missing? i want to make the group more rounded
15:04 <Urist> and how many people play?
15:56 <Hydrazine> Well, Pathfinder Society play is more episodic than a linear enduring campaign, and so we have a bunch of characters in a big pot, and we put parties together on the fly. So its really pretty flexible.
16:16 <Hydrazine> 3-5 usually. Hopefully more than 3, because I'm sick of playing Kyra on the side.
16:33 <Brunius> You reckon I should start playing mah paladin again then?
16:33 <Hydrazine> I would say you got a pretty open field for character creation, man.
17:04 <Hydrazine> I can't remember last time I played a game with you, Bru.
17:27 <Brunius> Last time I did anything PFS-related was when I DMed that game
17:36 <Brunius> The 5-9 one
17:39 <Brunius> underwater
18:20 <Urist> alright, so should i roll my char now? it will be to 3.5 standards so i ope it wont be to gamebreaking 
18:28 <Avatar> yeah man roll it up
18:29 <Urist> hope*
18:29 <Hydrazine> If you're interested in really filling the gaps, I think sorcerors, oracles, cavalier/samurai, and gunslingers are what I don't see.
19:27 <Urist> i never played a sorcerer , but id like too, i have played only a cleric so im still pretty new
19:52 <Urist> but with time comes experience right
19:59 <Hydrazine> I suggest you look at how pathfinder society chars are made, particularly the point buy.
20:24 <Urist> ok, will do
20:33 <Hydrazine> Overall I think the average level 1 pathfinder is stronger than its 3.5 equivalent.
21:06 <Urist> well i dont mind being a bit underpressure i like a challenge
21:16 <Urist> haha
21:21 <Hydrazine> PFS added in some class features to a few classes that didn't really have much, and some consolidation of the skills list means you get a few more points to spread around.
21:45 <Hydrazine> gone are balance, jump and tumble. Just Acrobatics now.
21:57 <Hydrazine> Spot search and listen? Grouped into perception.
22:23 <Hydrazine> Overall I think it goes a long way for those fighters and barbarians that dumped int.
22:30 <Urist> aw thats a bit of a shame, but still ok
22:41 <Hydrazine> You don't like it? Why?
23:13 <Mort-> Screw time
23:22 <Urist> i just liked the way that you had to roll for either a jump, balance or tumble
23:47 <Urist> but im not too pushed
23:52 <Hydrazine> Theres still seperate rules for the DCs of all of them and such, different mechanics involved. Its mostly the same.
24:12 <Hydrazine> Its just all consolidated into one skill now.
24:27 <Urist> ah, ok, thats fine
24:37 <Mort-> Urgh
24:49 <Hydrazine> Really it makes a bit more sense to me than someone being an amazing jumper and tumbler.. and a terrible balancer because they put skills in sense motive instead.
25:32 <Urist> yeah that makes sense, haha
26:09 <Urist> ok, i found a pfs character generator so ill be back in a moment
26:19 <Hydrazine> Feel free to ask if you got any questions.
26:28 <Avatar> avoid the character generator
26:34 <Avatar> create it from scratch or use a pregen
26:44 <Avatar> you won't learn anything from a character generator and you won't get the build you want anyway
26:55 <Hydrazine> Good point. No shame at all in using a pregen for your first game, to get your toes wet.
27:11 <Brunius> Who ran this channel before Ballig did?
27:28 <Ballig> Iceman
28:10 <Urist> ok, what pregens do you have on offer? haha i make it sound like im buying something
28:38 <Urist> i am not looking for a min/max character
28:43 <Hydrazine> Take your pick! I know all the core classes exist.
28:50 <Hydrazine> Aswell as gunslinger, samurai and ninja.
29:10 <Brunius> Magus?
29:32 <Urist> monk?
29:36 <Hydrazine> I don't know if I've seen a magus pregen, but there probably is one around.
29:52 <Hydrazine> I like monks, I just wish they weren't so troubled by a point buy.
30:01 <Urist> as in is there a monk?
30:06 <Hydrazine> Yes
30:18 <Ballig> Brunius: why's that?
30:20 <Urist> yea sorry i sent it before i read
30:49 <Urist> ok so a pregen monk, do i get to pick its race?
31:41 <Brunius> This guy was like "There used to be a D&D channel on austnet, but it was run by dicks"
31:58 <Avatar> what guy
32:07 <Hydrazine> He probably means you.
32:14 <Avatar> yeah most likely
32:15 <Brunius> Mooncabbage
32:25 <Hydrazine> The pregens have races already.
32:26 <Avatar> I remember the name
32:37 <Avatar> not sure why he would've been pissed with us
32:51 <Hydrazine> But .. hey Avatar, would you take it amiss if I decided to play a pregen as a different race, taking all appropriate changes?
33:05 <Avatar> not at all
33:14 <Hydrazine> There you have it then.
33:28 <Avatar> what?
34:22 <Avatar> can you accept files urist
34:39 <Urist> how?
34:48 <Avatar> by clicking accept
34:51 <Avatar> so that'd be a no
35:06 <Urist> im still new to the whole irc thing,
35:21 <Avatar> go to www.pfrpg.com.au and click getting started
35:32 <Avatar> there are some pregens there, some info, and everything you need
35:40 <Avatar> we can help you roll up a character from scratch if you want
35:54 <Hydrazine> Yeah, Avatar knows everything.
36:24 <Avatar> you could do it
36:25 <Urist> cool, thanks alot
38:20 <Urist> if its ok i'd like to roll a character from scratch
41:25 <Hydrazine> Hit it man.
41:40 <Mekkis> Brunius, want some judge foils?
41:43 <Mort-> If you want i could help you with magi
41:44 <Hydrazine> Yeah, the getting started stuff leads you the right way here.
41:50 <Brunius> They'd be nice
41:56 <Mort-> Had some practice at them
41:56 <Brunius> I probably wouldn't use them though
42:04 * Mort- ^^s
42:11 <Hydrazine> By some, Mort means she's rolled two magi.
42:19 <Mort-> Lol
42:20 <Hydrazine> Because I kinda got one killed.
42:22 * Hydrazine coughs
42:37 <Mort-> Because we had the bad taste to get ourselves killed together
42:51 * Mort- flaps paw
43:10 <Mort-> Oh yes. I'm not humbled
43:12 <Mort-> Human
43:16 <Mort-> I'm a mur.
43:25 <Urist> ok, there does seem to be a monk or a sorcerer pregen, that i can find, so i think ill roll from scratch
43:27 <Mort-> I have 4 paws and a tail
43:43 <Avatar> urist: check your pm
43:47 <Avatar> private message
44:30 <Mort-> If you like you can tickle me behind my ears
44:46 <Mort-> Id like that
44:55 <Mort-> And you should bring me chocolate chip cookies
45:08 <Mort-> Its been too long since anyone has been giving me any
45:14 <Hydrazine> If you give Mort cookies, she'll never leave you alone.
45:20 <Mort-> Hey!
45:21 * Brunius salivates about choc chip cookies
45:32 <Hydrazine> The trick to dealing with Morts, is being a highly volatile explosive chemical.
45:33 <Mort-> Don't take my cookies!
45:42 * Mort- puffs herself up
46:49 <Mort-> Ah hydra here is a resident expert on monkishness
47:28 <Hydrazine> I gotta say pfs monks, if you include the archetypes and martial arts styles, is way cooler than 3.5 monks.
48:05 <Mort-> I have no desire to be a monk
48:23 <Mort-> Nor much of a divine caster
48:25 <Hydrazine> Even something like Supermonk, or Hoku?
48:29 <Mort-> No
48:43 <Mort-> Maneuver rules don't come easily to me
49:19 <Mort-> Do you know how long it took me to learn grapple rules?
49:30 <Mort-> I think you had to tie me up in knots several times :(
49:32 <Hydrazine> Kinda, I shoved them at you, didn't I?
49:38 <Mort-> Yeah
49:52 <Mort-> That's why I'm not learning stylap
49:55 <Mort-> Styles
50:12 <Hydrazine> But several of the styles are damn awesome.
50:14 <Mort-> Im more likely to pick up metamagic feats
50:31 <Hydrazine> Sushi's making a wizard that takes a combat style.
50:54 <Mort-> Metamagic feats are damn awesome
50:55 <Mort-> Or rods are
52:03 <Hydrazine> I think most of the metamagic feats are not of that much value at lower levels, which is where we went to play.
52:30 <Hydrazine> Giving up a level 2 spell slot to get a somewhat better level 1 spell.. Well, I haven't seen anyone do it yet.
54:02 <Avatar> you're talking still spell
54:09 <Avatar> which I don't think I've ever seen anyone use at any level
54:30 <Avatar> I don't think they are worth feats which change spell levels
54:54 <Hydrazine> I'm not talking any specific metamagic. Just generalizing the group of increases spell level by 1 as the most reasonable of the bunch.
55:16 <Hydrazine> Giving up a level 4 spell for a quickened level 1? Who does that?
56:13 <Mort-> I was thinking of dazing rod abuse
56:28 <Mort-> Give yourself a reflex dazing aura
57:04 <Mort-> Then there is on hit entangle with no save for 1 round as well
57:32 <Mort-> I might get kalara to pick up that line
57:33 <Mort-> Or not
57:34 <Mort-> Is one round of entangle worth it?
58:29 <Mort-> Its pretty resource free so you can do it all day
58:35 <Hydrazine> Not as good as daze
59:09 <Mort-> The dazing aura trick means you load elemental aura
59:19 <Mort-> And get a dazing rod
59:27 <Mort-> But its a magus dc
59:37 <Avatar> you don't need to be super powerful mort
59:53 <Mort-> I cannot imagine a wizard daring to pull that kind of trick off
59:54 <Avatar> if something doesn't work 100% of the time it's not the end of the world
59:57 <Mort-> And its expensive
00:11 <Avatar> if it is 100%, the game gets boring
00:34 <Mort-> Well that wizard in question probably was aiming for eldritch knight
00:36 <Mort-> :p
00:45 <Mort-> If he dared to try that
00:52 <Hydrazine> I think my fun with Hoku so far is the fights where I don't feel like its a good idea to grab something.
01:04 <Mort-> Lol
01:21 <Mort-> Its hard to remember grapple rules
01:48 <Hydrazine> The ones where grappling an enemy is obviously the right idea, tend to go rather smoothly.
01:54 <Mort-> But yes. If that guy fails he is dazed for 3 turns
02:16 <Mort-> You generally either flank buddy or grab people anyway
03:19 <Hydrazine> Without grappling, in combat, Hoku's pretty weak on his own.
03:23 <Hydrazine> Offensively anyway.
03:26 <Mort-> Dc would be sort of low though
03:38 <Mort-> Please. We all make sacrifices to be what we are :p
04:09 <Mort-> Mort really can't hurt anything without expending resources of a sort
04:19 <Hydrazine> I'm not disappointed with him. Its just his weak spots.
04:24 <Mort-> Ya
04:30 <Mort-> We all have soft spots
04:33 <Hydrazine> Jerus has problems with swarms.
04:42 <Mort-> Sure doesn't everyone?
05:14 <Mort-> Even mort will since she isn't evocation speced
05:23 <Avatar> everyone doesn't
05:30 <Avatar> if you have alchemical fire or something, you're set
05:40 <Mort-> Uh i had lots of acid
05:47 <Mort-> Those swarms take lots of killing
06:11 <Mort-> Ok just for a question
06:39 <Mort-> If a necklace of fireballs was in a handy haversack
06:55 <Mort-> And the wearer got hit by a fireball
07:00 <Mort-> Does it go off? 
07:05 <Avatar> no
07:15 <Mort-> So that's how you carry them
07:18 <Avatar> a necklace of fireballs needs to be activated
07:23 <Mort-> No
07:33 <Mort-> If you carry one
07:43 <Mort-> And get hit a fire ball
07:49 <Mort-> It has chance of detonatiog
08:24 <Mort-> That are rules concerning that stuff
08:30 <Avatar> in a haversack I'd say it's safe
08:36 <Avatar> that item is an exception
08:50 <Mort-> I would too since extra dimensional pocket
09:03 <Mekkis> Itzamna doesn't have problems with swarms
09:10 <Mort-> Yeah
09:17 <Mort-> But xyn isn't rich
09:21 <Avatar> it'd probably be safe in your backpack
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09:29 <Avatar> "carried" means in your hand, not in your pack
09:36 <OrangeShark> Hello its Urist
09:37 <Mekkis> Mytiazair is a wizard, who's learnt that as a wizard, you're expected to be able to deal with swarms
09:41 <Mort-> Back pack i would rule not
09:45 <Mort-> I know
09:48 <Hydrazine> You're a shark now!
09:51 <Mekkis> an Orange Shark named Urist?
09:53 <Mort-> That's why i think mort is falling
09:54 <Hydrazine> I bet Sushi would appreciate the name.
10:08 <OrangeShark> Haha, true
10:13 * Mort- thinks of shark fin soup
10:15 <Mekkis> of Ireland?
10:24 <Mekkis> connected via eircom?
10:28 <Hydrazine> I saw sharks in the crazy asian grocery, Mort.
10:34 <Mekkis> using ADSL?
10:36 <Mort-> Its not crazy
10:41 <Hydrazine> But they were head and finless, so I couldn't try to identify them.
10:44 <Mort-> It makes perfect sense hydra
11:00 <Mort-> Sharks are good to eat!
11:01 <OrangeShark> exactly, ok, you can stop referancing my prvider haha
11:04 <Hydrazine> Well, its wildly different from what I'm used to. Live isopods and eels?
11:11 <Mort-> Sure!
11:16 <Mort-> Bring it on!
11:31 <Mekkis> the ADSL bit was a good guess
11:32 <OrangeShark> provider*
11:55 <OrangeShark> it sure was i was getting a bit creeped out
11:59 <Hydrazine> How goes monk creation?
12:04 <Mort-> And hydra. Asians aren't crazy!
12:05 <Mekkis> the rest of it was easy
12:20 <Mort-> Btw. Don't do anything to hydra. He explodes
12:26 <Mekkis> a whois n for the public half of your IP address showed it
12:27 <Mort-> I learnt it the hard way :(
12:46 <Hydrazine> Sure you're not crazy?
12:54 <Mort-> Mekkis it wouldn't freak me out
13:08 <Mort-> Because i don't really care if people know where I'm logging in from
13:09 <Mekkis> Mort-, you're behind a CGN!
13:13 <Mort-> I have nothing to hide
13:19 <Mort-> What's a cgn?
13:23 <Mort-> I don't get it
13:27 <Mekkis> then why isn't there a webcam in your bathroom?
13:51 <Mort-> Because you would have to pay through your nose for those pics
14:04 Urist has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
14:13 <Mort-> Seriously so what if you know where go logging in from
14:18 OrangeShark is now known as Urist
14:21 <Mort-> I truly have nothing to hide
14:40 <Mekkis> noone has nothing to hide
14:41 * Mort- shrugs indifferently
14:48 <Mort-> Ok
14:58 <Mort-> Tell me something shocking about me
15:05 <Mort-> Right in this channel
15:10 <Mort-> Bring it.
15:12 <Mekkis> put a webcam in your bathroom and I will
15:25 <Mort-> Wouldn't do that
15:31 <Mekkis> why not?
15:40 <Mekkis> you truly have nothing to hide
15:41 <Mort-> From my cell you can't really get information about me anyway
15:50 <Mort-> Because its indecent exposure
15:52 <Mort-> ^^
16:02 <Mekkis> so you DO have something to hide
17:07 <Mort-> Well if you want to talk about that
17:08 <Mort-> But still i mean if you intended to blackmail me or whatever
17:08 * Mort- shrugs
17:10 <Mort-> Anyway urist
17:36 <Mort-> Hydra is also fond of saying i have pally class levels
18:34 <Avatar> he never says that
19:04 <Mort-> He did
19:09 <Hydrazine> Do too. Mort's a paladin. She thinks lawful good is lawful GREAT.
19:16 <Mort-> A couple of times already
19:40 <Mort-> I've been telling him i summon imps in my kitchen
19:50 <Hydrazine> If she woke up to find a goblin eating her fingers, she would ask it nicely to stop.
19:57 <Mort-> It still hasn't dissuaded him
20:13 <Mort-> Hey i have a soft spot for goblins
20:17 <Mort-> You were one too!
20:28 <Mort-> Don't you find them adorable?
21:04 <Mekkis> no
21:09 <Mekkis> I don't consort with the enemy
21:11 <Hydrazine> Not too cute for hammering.
21:20 <Hydrazine> How goes it, Urist?
22:01 <Avatar> he's almost at step 1 of character creation
22:42 <Urist> haha, yeah i'm just a bit dim
23:04 * Mort- sniffs
23:05 <Avatar> everyone's new at some point
23:13 <Urist> true
23:17 <Mort-> But I've killed goblins before hydra
23:26 <Ballig> Brunius: Mooncabbage wasn't that long ago
23:55 <Mort-> In character and out of character separation you know
24:14 <Mekkis> Ballig, I heard that the Pirate Party's contesting the ACT elections
24:24 <Mort-> Sadly those we see in pfs aren't the cute and adorable goblins we were
24:47 <Mort-> I think the goblins we made people would keep us as pets!
25:06 <Mort-> I wouldn't mind being a pet as long as i could play with fireworks!
25:52 <Mekkis> Mort-, why not buy some skyrockets to use against swarms?
26:25 * Mort- gamboles around
26:26 <Mort-> You guys ought to play frostfur capitives
26:37 <Mort-> I told trist he would make a really good teacher after that
26:44 <Mort-> Good idea!
27:08 <Mort-> Do they target well?
27:08 <Mort-> How do they work?
27:36 <Mekkis> didn't you use them in We Be Goblins
28:38 <Hydrazine> I chopped things.
28:40 <Hydrazine> Felt right at home
32:00 <Mort-> Someone took my rockets!
32:05 <Mort-> Never got to use it!
32:14 <Mort-> I threw firebolts instead
32:57 <Mort-> Wait. Wasn't it the thing you fire and it goes 90 ft in a round and next thing we were trying to dodge it?
34:17 <Mekkis> When lit, this foot-long wooden tube begins to shake and emit a handful of white sparks, shedding light as a torch. One round later it takes flight, moving at speed 90 for 1d6 rounds before loudly exploding in an burst of light and sound, dealing 2d6 points of fire damage in a 10-foot burst (DC 15 Reflex save for half ). Anyone who takes damage from the explosion is either blinded or deafened (there is a 50% chance of either) for 1 round.
35:13 <Mort-> Yeah but which direction does it fly in
35:23 <Mekkis> the direction it's pointed in
35:48 <Mort-> K.what's stopping the swarm from dodging
36:05 <Mort-> When you point it in its direction
36:30 <Mekkis> keep it pointed at the swarm until it goes off
36:52 <Mort-> Ah but the swarm can move to one side right?
37:09 <Mort-> Mort might still be able to pull that off
37:15 <Mort-> Maybe even grull.
37:35 <Mort-> If xyn did it though. She would be laughed out of town
37:41 <Mort-> Really
37:57 <Hydrazine> Jerus shall invest in some anti-swarm pots.
42:27 <Mort-> You made little kalara throw acid flasks
42:30 <Mort-> And on morts side i switched hold person for fb
42:48 <Mort-> Ah well
43:09 <Mort-> Xyn needs a lot of expensive stuff :(
43:22 <Mort-> Aomf
43:28 <Mort-> Rod of wonder
43:43 <Mekkis> is Xyn copying Itzamna?
43:48 <Mort-> Wand of lesser evolution surge
43:53 <Mort-> Its required
44:00 <Mort-> If you want to ever get large
44:01 <Mekkis> rod of wonder is never required
44:14 <Mort-> If you want to get large you better get it
44:33 <Mekkis> what?
44:36 <Mekkis> they doesn't even work
45:04 <Mort-> Else how are you going to squeeze into those holes?
45:05 <Mort-> Say you get all corridors
45:05 <Mort-> So screwed
45:07 <Mort-> You already said you're not sure if you want your roc large
45:17 <Mort-> Complaining about fitting into places
45:23 <Mort-> If i let myself grow large
45:26 <Mekkis> how does a rod of wonder help?
45:35 <Hydrazine> you squeeze through 5ft spaces like everyone else?
45:38 <Mort-> Reduce yourself permanently
45:43 <Mort-> For 2 sizes
45:50 <Mekkis> how does that help?
46:13 <Mort-> Since you were large you're now small
46:42 <Mort-> So you can fit into cooridors!
46:53 <Mort-> I don't think you even can get in
47:05 <Hydrazine> how often have you had to squeeze through spaces as a medium?
47:25 <Mort-> That's because she is medium now
47:27 <Mekkis> why not just get a wand of reduce person?
47:31 <Mort-> Imagine if she grew large
47:34 <Mekkis> it's MUCH cheaper
47:36 <Mort-> Its not for long
47:41 <Mekkis> yeah
47:43 <Hydrazine> does it work on the eidolon?
47:44 <Mort-> 1 min per level
47:45 <Mekkis> but it can be dismissed
47:52 <Mort-> So i get into the dungeon
48:01 <Mort-> Every min i spam it because I'm big?
48:03 <Mort-> God.
48:11 <Mort-> So i try to search a room
48:15 <Hydrazine> Mort, I completely don't get what you're going on about.
48:34 <Mort-> You can't fit into a 5 ft square if you are large
48:51 <Mekkis> so dismiss the eidolon
48:52 <Mort-> Cooridor is 5 ft only how do you even go down there
48:54 <Hydrazine> You can squeeze into one.
48:56 <Hydrazine> If you have to.
49:05 <Mort-> What are the squeezing rules
49:21 <Mort-> It takes 1 min to resummon
49:29 <Mort-> There may be something nasty out there
49:52 <Mort-> Lots of cooridors are 5 ft wide only
49:58 <Mekkis> Mort-, Summon Eidolon
50:01 <Hydrazine> Not that I've seen.
50:06 <Mort-> 150 gp
50:34 <Mort-> Look my last scenario i had to pull a pally and rescue a rogue
50:37 <Mort-> All in 5 ft and 
50:43 <Mort-> 3 monsters
51:34 <Mort-> Think about shadows last stand hydra
51:48 <Mort-> How many cooridors were there?
52:12 <Mort-> Anyway I'm thinking of large and reduced to small is actually a bonus of some stats
52:25 <Mort-> Large is +8 str -4 dex?
52:27 <Hydrazine> I don't think I've ever had to fight in a 5ft wide space.
52:41 <Hydrazine> Pass through 5ft spaces to get to open areas, yes. Fight in them? No.
53:14 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure you hvae
53:43 <Hydrazine> I think even FS3 was 2 squares across.
54:36 <Mort-> +8 -2
55:00 <Mort-> Well you didn't remember shadows last stand
55:17 <Mort-> Got ambushed by goblins on both sides
55:48 <Mort-> In a 5 ft cooridor
55:54 <Mort-> Door ways are also 5 ft some times
56:47 <Mort-> Summon eidolon - the other side just needs to do a protection from good and I'm fked :d
57:14 <Hydrazine> Too bad everyone and them mom prepared protection from good.
57:53 <Hydrazine> Why not just assume every monster has antimagic field as a spell like ability, and refuse to play anything but monks?
57:58 <Mort-> Assuming its the aspis consortium and they did their research on me :p
58:07 <Mort-> Ok maybe reduce person
58:17 <Mort-> But once i get large. I can function as a mount
58:22 <Hydrazine> Does reduce person work on eidolons?
58:25 <Mort-> But that's very lategame already
58:26 <Mort-> Yes
58:41 <Mort-> You can cast on your eidolon like you cast on yourself
58:54 <Mort-> I can even enlarge xyn if i wanted to
58:58 <Mort-> But i never had time
59:15 <Mort-> Every fight = go in start hitting
00:18 <Mort-> Most who take small races arent interested in melee anyway
00:25 <Mort-> So mount isn't really a useful thing atm
00:55 <Mort-> If you were a caster would you want a mount that charges happily into the fray?
01:48 <Hydrazine> hmmm.
02:11 <Hydrazine> I think I'm of the opinion that reduce/enlarge don't work on fused synthesists.
02:30 <Mort-> There is a rule thing saying it does
02:42 <Hydrazine> Where?
02:43 <Mort-> Your own spells do. Others don't
04:53 <Hydrazine> My stance is, a fused synth counts as either an outsider or their normal type, whichever is worse.
05:21 <Mekkis> Summoner: Can a synthesist (page 80) use spells on himself that don't affect outsiders, even though he is treated as his own type or the outsider type, "whichever is worse"?
05:21 <Mekkis> Yes, because the normal eidolon's share spells ability says "A summoner may cast spells on his eidolon even if the spells normally do not affect creatures of the eidolon's type (outsider)," and the synthesist archetype doesn't change that.
05:37 <Mekkis> Note: This is a revision of an earlier question that used enlarge person as an example. FAQ pending about size-changing magic and a synthesist (because of the limitation of "the eidolon must be at least the same size as the synthesist" rule).
05:42 <Mekkis> I like that last bit
05:52 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fz#v5748eaic9op2
08:59 <Hydrazine> How does a synth heal the temp hitpoints?
09:19 <Hydrazine> I wasn't looking in the right part about enlarge/reduce. Fair enough.
10:17 <Mort-> Use lesser rejuvinate eidolon
10:38 <Hydrazine> But magic can't restore lost temp hitpoints.
10:48 <Mort-> It does for this
11:14 <Hydrazine> How so?
11:15 <Mort-> Summoner: How does a synthesist (page 80) heal damage to his eidolon? 
11:50 <Hydrazine> Ah. Found it
12:47 <Mort-> Yes its cumbersome
12:55 <Mort-> But i haven't used my wand yet
13:08 <Mort-> Mostly i heal like the rest of us all
13:34 <Mort-> Generally take it out of my own hp pool
14:54 <Mort-> In fact I'm not very sure mek
15:13 <Mort-> If something were to knock me out could i leave my eidolon with 1 hp
15:31 <Mort-> Then collapse on the ground dismissing it?
16:05 <Mort-> So that when people wake me up i can just use summon eidolon and get it back.h
16:06 <Mort-> I
16:08 <Mort-> ?
17:39 <Hydrazine> Couldn't you also argue that since spells that affect the summoner can also work on the eidolon even though hes an outsider..cure light wounds works?
17:57 <Mekkis> you can argue anything
19:22 <Hydrazine> Don't see any reason why it doesn't work, I mean. What am I missing?
20:57 <Hydrazine> Ah, yes.
21:19 <Hydrazine> Only works with spells on the summoner spell list. Which doesn't include CLW.
21:28 <Mekkis>     2009– 011 – Department of Defence – Israel Project Director – Strategic Defence project. Worked on the development of strategic defence software for Department of Defence. Project had defence classification XYZ 123. Responsible for all aspects of overseeing development of the strategic software including management of 200 people.
22:51 <Mort-> No worries
23:17 <Mort-> Being a monster isn't free you know ^^
29:59 <Mekkis> hehe
30:16 <Mekkis> don't you get magic fang / greater magic fang?
30:26 <Hydrazine> Supernormal incremental precipitation inducer.
31:04 <Mort-> I do
31:13 <Mekkis> then why deal with the amulet?
31:16 <Mort-> And i have scrolls
31:25 <Mekkis> why scrolls?
31:33 <Mort-> Because it can be dispelled
31:45 <Mort-> Scroll of magic fang lol
32:06 <Mort-> Amulet is for more damage 
32:46 <Mort-> Greater magic fang for a full day thing
33:11 <Mort-> How do spontaneous casters use pearls of power?
33:17 <Mekkis> they don't
33:22 <Mekkis> why do you care?
33:30 <Mort-> You can't?
33:31 <Mekkis> you don't have the actions to cast the spells anyway
33:44 <Mort->  Refresh greater magic fang
33:44 <Mekkis> you're too busy spilling the enemies' blood
33:47 <Mort-> Lol
33:58 <Mort-> Or mage armor
34:12 <Mekkis> you have like, 6 first level spells per day
34:16 <Mort-> But that describes xyn well
34:17 <Mekkis> that's enough for mage armour
34:23 <Hydrazine> Simple. A pearl of power that holds a level 1 spell for a wizard holds a level 1 spell for a sorc.
34:31 <Mort-> Not a  current level
34:42 <Mort-> 2h and 3 spells
34:54 <Mort-> If it were a full day affair
34:57 <Mekkis> shouldn't be an issue
35:28 <Mort-> Luckily scenarios are fast so far
35:59 <Mekkis> This seemingly normal pearl of average size and luster is a potent aid to all spellcasters who prepare spells (clerics, druids, rangers, paladins, and wizards). Once per day on command, a pearl of power enables the possessor to recall any one spell that she had prepared and then cast that day. 
36:14 <Mekkis> it's pretty clear that it's only for prepared casters
36:16 <Mort-> Oh dear
36:24 <Mort-> They don't work?
37:01 <Mekkis> that's what I said
37:02 <Mort-> Xyn barely touches her magic
37:16 <Mort-> And her magic is fully defensive
38:22 <Mort-> No damage spells lol
38:40 <Mort-> Not even acid splash
39:38 <Mort-> Anyway does amof stack with gmf?
39:55 <Mort-> Gmf can be dispelled
40:19 <Mort-> Amof its shatter i suppose
40:41 <Avatar> urist is up to skills
40:53 <Mort-> Ok
41:04 <Avatar> the hardest part of that character sheet, and doing it pretty well I think
41:05 <Mort-> Perception ftw
42:00 <Mort-> Ah
49:42 <Urist> i have 8 in perception
49:55 <Hydrazine> Pretty good.
49:56 <Urist> at lvl 1
50:01 <Urist> thanks
50:08 <Hydrazine> Helps alot, it does.
50:27 <Urist> perception check everything haha
50:48 <Urist> i promise not to abuse it
53:40 <Avatar> there's nothing to really abuse with perception
56:06 <Mort-> Yeah
56:31 <Mort-> Most of my characters have crap for perception
56:34 <Mort-> Book worms
57:14 <Mort-> Btw don't listen to anyone who says i need a good smack on my nose
59:31 <Avatar> you do, though
00:34 <Mort-> And don't do it
00:42 <Mort-> Give me cookies instead
00:45 <Mort-> Why?
00:52 <Mort-> Avatar. I'm innocent
01:01 <Mort-> I'm fluffeh. And harmless
01:18 <Mekkis> Avatar, is there something broken about Mytiazair's +10 misc bonus to perception?
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01:30 <Mort-> Btw has anyone here tried listening on door before opening them yet?
01:37 <Mekkis> yes
01:52 <Mort-> Were you the one who taught me that?
01:53 <Mekkis> have you tried detect magic through a keyhole?
02:01 <Mort-> Not yet
02:16 <Mort-> But xyn somehow does listen at doors
02:24 <Mort-> Before she opens them
02:39 <Avatar> I don't know, where's his sheet
03:07 <Mort-> Her ears pricky prick up
03:58 <Mekkis> on my subversion repository
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07:44 <Mort-> If i were a pally
07:53 <Mort-> I would use my paladar all around me
08:04 <Mekkis> I would smite mort with a Coup de Grace while she was asleep
08:31 <Mort-> If i were an inquisitor i would use my inquisitordar as well
08:41 <Mort-> I'm evil?
08:50 <Mort-> Oh yes. I summoned imps :d
08:50 <Mekkis> not really
08:59 * Mort- splats
09:00 <Mekkis> but smite evil just increases the damage a bit
09:13 <Mekkis> coup de grace with a scythe would still kill you
09:19 <Mort-> Yeah
09:24 <Mort-> Definitely
09:32 <Mort-> I'm a widdle mur
09:50 <Mekkis> never know when you need to mow the lawn
47:35 <Hydrazine> A +5 amulet of mighty fists costs 250,000 pounds of copper; 8,333 oxen; 12,500,000 pounds of wheat; 6,250,000 chickens; 1,250,000 pounds of iron; 125,000 goats; 125,000 pounds of cinnamon; 2,500 pounds of gold, or 250 pounds of platinum.
56:02 <Mort-> I know
56:09 <Mort-> Its sick
56:25 <Hydrazine> I wonder how much space 125000 goats takes up.
57:21 <Mort-> A lot of space
57:34 <Hydrazine> Just imagine trying to sell a AoMF to a monk with profession farmer whose actually paying half the free in the 3.1 million chickens.
57:52 <Mort-> Lol
58:10 <Mort-> Feathers all around
58:30 <Hydrazine> Wagons full of bird from the towngates to the horizon
59:02 <Hydrazine> ...This merchant would then go on to become the biggest name in fried chicken in Absalom.
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