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21:53 <electrohead> o/
22:03 <rust_collector> oiioh
23:06 * electrohead moans
23:11 <electrohead> lol, hey mate
23:51 <rust_collector> HELLO!
24:29 <electrohead> yeah, any sort of moaning would make me shout as well
24:56 <T3sl4> twist, as well
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41:44 <rust_collector> ok, I hung the arduino with a blinking led in the window. Now I have to see how long it takes before the wife notice
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11:07 <Nothing\> le sigh
11:24 <rust_collector> yep
12:06 <Nothing\> rust_collector, were you here yesterday when i said what happened to my brother?
12:23 <rust_collector> yea
12:42 <Nothing\> yeah, he got checked out at the hospital at the behest of the police for victim services
12:56 <rust_collector> did you go over there and punch him?
13:17 <Nothing\> broken rib, broken nose, broken finger, puncture eardrum, black eye, swelling all over his face, no brain injuries thankfully
13:26 <Nothing\> 4 front teeth knocked out
13:55 <Nothing\> apparently at one point he was knocked out and the guy just kept wailing on him until his roommate intervened
13:55 <rust_collector> that is how it works when someone tries to smash you
14:08 <Nothing\> yeah, this guy was literally trying to kill them
14:21 <Nothing\> i'm going to the bail hearing on monday to see what all charges he gets
14:36 <Nothing\> but the thing is, i did some sleuthing, he's got outstanding warrants up north for violent crimes
14:50 <Nothing\> so there's no way he's making bail if he's been known to flee
15:07 <Nothing\> i was thinking i should call that police department and say he was arrested down here, just to make sure they know
15:30 <Nothing\> be like "hey boys, come and get 'im"
16:21 <Nothing\> i tried to figure out what charges he woulda got, whether it'd be attempted murder x2 (for my brother and his roommate) or assault causing bodily harm x2, and it sounds like the latter is more likely
16:22 <rust_collector> I am 19% sure they have plenty to do with the people that already is up there, so I doubt they care
16:28 <Nothing\> attempted murder seemed to impy a gun needs to be used
16:46 <Nothing\> that's what i was thinking
17:16 <Nothing\> but i mean, apparently he called the police station here to ask if his warrant would be a problem some time ago and they were just like "oh they're not gonna drive 8 hours to get you so don't worry about it"
17:21 <Nothing\> which doesn't sound right to me
17:23 <rust_collector> so, if you beat someone with a gun, that would be attempted murder, but if you just used a brick, it would be just violence?
17:37 <Nothing\> rust_collector, lol that's the sense i got
17:42 <Nothing\> the wording was really vague
17:48 <Nothing\> unusually vague for a criminal code
18:10 <Nothing\> but the assault causing bodily harm specified choking, which both of them were choked
18:20 <Nothing\> not to mention they obviously suffered bodily harm
18:44 <Nothing\> his roommate's injuries were pretty similar, minus the broke teeth and plus a 2nd black eye
19:22 <Nothing\> apparently victim services here will pay up to $1000 to fix his teeth, but since they were veneers that got knocked out, there's no way that's gonna cover it
19:44 <Nothing\> only way i see it getting fixed is remove the nubs of teeth that were filed down for the veneers and put in a partial denture
20:19 <Nothing\> oh yeah, and i got a letter from disability yesterday saying i owe them $8,000
20:29 <rust_collector> eh?
20:33 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
20:49 <Nothing\> they're claiming they overpaid me last year for time while i was incarcerated, even though i was only to serve my sentence on weekends and only served 5 of those weekends cuz the place was closed due to covid
20:53 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
20:57 <Nothing\> hey buddy, how you doing?
21:02 <Ampera> awake
21:28 <Nothing\> rust_collector, so yeah, i've got all the paper work that proves how much time i served and i can get a condensed version from my PO, so i'm gonna have to file an appeal for that
21:53 <rust_collector> it has been a very long time since I did anything violent-ish. i must be getting old
22:06 <rust_collector> well, those things can be tricky, I guess.
22:08 <Nothing\> funny thing is, they said the way they're gonna recover the money is by docking my cheques by like $67 a month, which if they want $8,000 they're gonna have to be docking them for a loooong time
22:23 <Nothing\> i've never been a violent person, at least not towards people
22:33 <Nothing\> i always just punched holes in walls or threw shit or yelled
22:35 <rust_collector> sounds like a good deal, if you can not get around it
22:49 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah but i'm still livid about the situation
22:59 <Nothing\> they seem to think i was in jail for the entire 7 months
23:01 <rust_collector> I was never violent either, until someone started
23:05 <Nothing\> even though my sentence was just for 3 months
23:25 <Nothing\> rust_collector, even when i was mugged, i just used words to deescalate things
23:54 <rust_collector> good for you
24:02 <Nothing\> lol one random guy mugged me for a pack of smokes, i actually convinced him to give me half of them back after asking why he was doing this and listening to him go on about his problems with his gf
24:29 <Nothing\> felt like the jedi mind trick or something lol
24:56 <Nothing\> but no, i've never really been threatened with violence other than getting mugged a couple of times
25:16 <Nothing\> and i mean, i'm not gonna risk my life for a pack of smokes, or over $30
25:41 <Nothing\> the $30 thing was a group of punk kids at the bus terminal
26:29 <Nothing\> likely trying to get drug money
27:10 <Nothing\> i still haven't even gotten around to filing this complaint against my old therapist cuz of all this other shit going on
28:40 <Nothing\> and my PO's expecting that i do that, so i don't want it to seem like i made the whole thing up just to get out of it or something. But so far her and her supervisor have taken it seriously. So I'm glad for that. I figured my credibility's shit on account of being a mentally ill, drug addicted convict
29:14 <Nothing\> oh Ampera you're gonna hate me
29:19 <Ampera> I already do
29:20 <Nothing\> i bought 2 games on my switch yesterday lol
29:21 <rust_collector> that probably does not help, lol
29:26 <Nothing\> aww i hate you too buddy
29:27 <Nothing\> <3
30:15 <Nothing\> but yeah, i got super mario 3d world, which came with this other game called bowser's fury which is pretty good. it's sorta like the oldschool 3d mario games where you have an open world sorta deal and have to do things to collect stars, or some other tokens
30:30 <Nothing\> then i saw there's a reboot of ghosts and goblins, so i had to get that
30:43 <Nothing\> and holy fuck it's even more unforgiving than the original
31:31 <Nothing\> i also got metroid: return of samus on my 3ds some time ago, so i finally started playing it. it's a really good game, but hard.
31:55 <Ampera> I made more biltong
31:59 <Nothing\> which again, is a reboot of the one originally released on gameboy
31:59 <Ampera> going to get more beef today to make more
32:04 <Nothing\> what's a biltong?
32:09 <Nothing\> mmm beef
32:15 <Ampera> >:(
32:33 <Nothing\> you know in... i think saudi arabia, on the simpsons, homer likes eating beef instead of pork
32:36 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489186870995976202/814194566776619018/20210224_125052.jpg
32:42 <Nothing\> he's also called omar shamshoon
32:44 <Ampera> this is biltong
32:48 <Nothing\> and drinks soda instead of beer
32:56 <Nothing\> and bart's name is badr
33:16 <Nothing\> damn, that looks like jerky
33:20 <Nothing\> is that like jerky?
33:46 <Nothing\> not much marbling on that cut
33:46 <rust_collector> pretty close
34:07 <Nothing\> you're making me wanna make one now
34:08 <Ampera> No it is not jerky
34:17 <Nothing\> what you use a slow cooker?
34:21 <Ampera> no
34:25 <Ampera> it's not even cooked
34:30 <Nothing\> smoked?
34:32 <Ampera> no
34:37 <Ampera> it's dry cured beef
34:44 <Nothing\> huh
34:49 <Nothing\> my curiosity is peaked
34:52 <rust_collector> t s dried
35:10 <Ampera> It's marinated in vinegar, covered in salt, pepper, and ground coriander, then dried for 9 days in a 122F dehydrator
35:53 <Nothing\> ahh cool
36:02 <Nothing\> too bad i haven't got a dehydrator
36:07 <Ampera> don't need one
36:10 <Nothing\> but damn i want one now
36:14 <rust_collector> you don't have to use that anyway
36:15 <Ampera> you can simply hang it up to dry it
36:19 <Nothing\> though i'm wondering if i could even eat it
36:20 <Ampera> or put it in your fridge
36:51 <Nothing\> i don't have enough teeth to chew anything but the most tender meat
37:27 <Nothing\> can't even eat nuts anymore, so no more cashews :(
37:44 <Nothing\> but i DID eat popcorn for the first time in years the other day
38:12 <Nothing\> i always avoided it before cuz i had so many teeth that were broken off to the gumline, the kernels would just get stuck inside them and shred the roots
38:35 <rust_collector> I also avoid eating popcorn
39:01 <Nothing\> popcorn's a damn hazard even for healthy teeth
39:11 <Nothing\> i've broken more than a few teeth on stray popcorn kernels
39:12 <rust_collector> I just don't like it
39:22 <Nothing\> and likewise with stray bits of bone in porkchops
39:28 <Nothing\> so i only get boneless chops now
39:49 <Nothing\> rust_collector, even theatre popcorn that's drowning in butter?
40:16 <Ampera> going to the post office soon to mail my taxes
40:18 <rust_collector> especially that, because that involves going to the theatre
40:50 <rust_collector> but no, I dislike popcorn even more if drowned in butter
40:52 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah i've gotta do mine. but apparently there's some new benefit and i wanna make sure i actually get it, so rather than getting my aunt to do them for me like i do every year, i'm going to a proper accountant
41:07 <Nothing\> frankly i don't see what makes my aunt qualified to do taxes anyways, she was a legal secretary
41:07 <Ampera> I just did mine out on paper
41:18 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
41:35 <Ampera> maybe Canada's different, but taxes here aren't very complicated
41:37 <Nothing\> and i don't think she was getting me the property tax credit i shoulda been getting
42:00 <Nothing\> cuz apparently here you can claim rent as property tax
42:05 <Nothing\> since that's what part of it goes to anyways
42:56 <Nothing\> i'd be screwed if i got audited on that though cuz i just give cash to my mum that she puts towards rent. so it's not like i can produce receipts or anything
43:28 <Nothing\> i'd have to get a record of the withdrawals from my account, then the records of my mom putting the same amount in her account and then records of the rent coming out of her account
44:49 <Nothing\> so in other news, i finally watched Friday the other day
44:59 <Nothing\> it's not a bad movie at all, for a stoner flick
45:06 <Nothing\> actually got some chuckles out of me
45:33 <Nothing\> speaking of which, i'm gonna eat this breakfast sandwich and watch next friday so i'll bbiab
45:38 <Nothing\> take care, guys <3
45:39 <rust_collector> nothing like a stoner action movie
45:59 <Nothing\> i should watch half baked
46:05 <Nothing\> that was a damn good stoner movie
46:11 <rust_collector> half naked
46:25 <Nothing\> can't go wrong with dave chappelle, harland williams and jim brewer
46:57 <rust_collector> sure you can. they are horrible, well, except that jim guy
48:25 <rust_collector> no, wait. that was a different jim
10:14 <Nothing\> lol
10:26 <Nothing\> there's a covid outbreak in the prison they're gonna be holding this guy in
10:35 <Nothing\> he's gonna get the little c
11:25 <Nothing\> actually, at both prisons he'll potentially be held at, could be Toronto South, where I was, or Maplehurst, where I had my intake
11:41 <Nothing\> Maplehurst is usually where they send people awaiting trial and they've got something like 150 cases
12:06 <Nothing\> not to mention they're so overcrowded, they're putting 3 inmates to a cell, having one sleep on the floor
12:26 <Nothing\> and toronto south is so understaffed, they don't even have guards on the ranges, just cameras
12:44 <Nothing\> they'd be soooo fucked if a riot ever broke out
13:04 <rust_collector> meh, the people in there would be
13:19 <Nothing\> but because of being understaffed, they're on lockdown at least 50% of the time, stuck in their cells, no rec time, no yard time, no showers, nothing
14:00 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah, eventually
14:08 <Nothing\> riots never end well
14:17 <rust_collector> maybe you should get a message in that this guy likes kids.
15:54 <Nothing\> hah wtf
16:10 <Nothing\> apparently last year maplehurst released an inmate who wasn't meant to be released
16:27 <Nothing\> rust_collector, haha that's not a bad idea
16:39 <Nothing\> too bad i didn't make any more permanent connections when i was in toronto south
17:08 <Nothing\> but they shut our section down so fast, we didn't even have time to say our goodbyes :`(
17:25 <rust_collector> so sad
17:33 <Nothing\> we were in a totally different section from where they hold people awaiting trial, though
18:21 <Nothing\> our section was more like a low security prison, where instead of cells, it was just one big room they locked us all in with 20 double bunks, a tv, 2 toilets, 2 urinals and 2 showers
18:34 <Nothing\> and a little thing that dispensed hot water for our coffee and tea
18:49 <Nothing\> a spigot, i guess
18:53 <rust_collector> hmm, luxury, having 4 urinals and all the fancy stuff
19:04 <Nothing\> actually, it was
19:11 <Nothing\> compared to the higher security areas, it really was
19:18 <Nothing\> we even had couches in the TV area
19:22 <rust_collector> guess you could use the toilets also, so 6
20:04 <Nothing\> well, the toilet area was sorta separated from the rest of the pod by a wall, but the people in the end bunks could still see if you were taking a piss or a shit
20:18 <Nothing\> and again, the shitting toilets were separated with a waist high wall
21:26 <rust_collector> you should come visit, the next time you go to jail. they are pretty nice over here
21:49 <Nothing\> when they'd take us in in the morning, they'd just put about 20 of us in this probably 20x20 cell all crammed together. and of course it had a toilet and again all they had was a waist high wall for privacy
21:56 <Nothing\> i never felt right using those toilets
22:26 <Nothing\> or for our methadone, they'd keep 6-10 of us in a 5 or 6 foot by 12 foot cell with a similar toilet situation
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23:03 <Nothing\> rust_collector, dude i've heard horror stories about the federal bureau of prisons in the states
23:07 <Nothing\> literal horror stories
23:43 <rust_collector> sure, but the us of a runs their prisons like a business. so that is different
24:19 <Nothing\> there's a channel i watch, jerry lawton jewel thief, it's this guy who's a reformed jewel thief who served 11 years in the federal pen and he goes over a lot of the horrible shit he's seen or had done to him by gurads
24:54 <Nothing\> like giving him "diesel therapy" which is transferring him on conair over and over again and losing his legal papers and other possessions in the process
25:51 <Nothing\> and put him on a black box list, which is where they put this box over your cuffs that makes it so you can only only keep your hands stacked on top of eachother and have no movement at all for the entire time
26:10 <Nothing\> plus you can't use the washroom, for up to 16 hours
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27:30 <rust_collector> well, you deserve that, if you get caught
27:41 <Nothing\> or when he was in the hole and the guards came in and beat his neighbour and he literally heard the snap when they broke the guy's leg
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27:53 <Nothing\> they put it up on the toilet and stomped on it sideways
28:54 <rust_collector> he should be glad they did it like that
29:22 <rust_collector> if they had him flat on the floor, and stomped on his leg until it broke, that would be much worse
29:53 <Nothing\> lol true true
32:01 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
32:19 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
32:23 <Ampera> just went to the post office
32:24 <Nothing\> thanks man, i needed that
32:27 <Ampera> going out to eat now
32:38 <Nothing\> my mom's going over what happened to my brother on the phone with my aunt right now
32:47 <Ampera> nice
32:50 <Nothing\> so it's kinda bringing up emotions hearing about it again
32:55 <Nothing\> really upsets me
33:09 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
33:21 <Ampera> beat up the guy who beat up your brother
33:30 <Nothing\> lol there's no way dude
33:38 <Nothing\> he's a 6'3" 280lb native guy
33:49 <Ampera> that's why rifles exist
33:54 <Nothing\> not in canada
34:02 <Ampera> that's a shame
34:08 <Nothing\> actually they wanna tighten the gun laws here again cuz there was a shooting in the maritimes somewher
34:14 <steve30> Lots of illegal gatherings out today.
34:20 <Nothing\> new brunswick or nova scotia, i always get them confused
34:35 <Ampera> steve30, I'm gonna sit out in public, inside, with no mask on
34:37 <Ampera> wish me luck
34:49 <Nothing\> steve30, you talkin bout myanmar?
34:55 <rust_collector> I am 14% sure rifles exist in canada
34:57 <Nothing\> cuz pretty much all of those protests are "illegal"
35:12 <Nothing\> rust_collector, oh yeah we have guns here
35:20 <Nothing\> it's mostly pistols they're going after here
35:34 <Nothing\> but my mom and i agree we need to invest in a baseball bat
35:43 <Nothing\> i told her we need one for each floor
35:44 <steve30> Nothing\, no, England. People are going out to enjoy the sunshine with their families and friends.
35:51 <Ampera> machete would be better
36:05 <Nothing\> steve30, yeah that's what pisses me off about all of these 2nd amendment NRA wannabes
36:08 <Ampera> steve30, those bastards
36:20 <rust_collector> nova scotia is the only place in canada I remember where is
36:22 <Nothing\> they don't realize in countries where guns have been banned outright, there are practically no gun crimes
36:25 <Nothing\> except mexico
36:39 <Nothing\> believe it or not, guns are completely illegal in mexico
36:48 <Ampera> I'd argue that, but not on a soft keyboard
37:01 <Nothing\> lemme grab a citation
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37:33 <rust_collector> heh. there are guns everywhere, why bother
37:36 <Nothing\> okay, you're right
37:41 <Nothing\> they are legal
37:43 <Nothing\> in some regard
37:56 <Nothing\> i didn't read past that cuz i'm trying to listen to my mom's conversation with my aunt
38:14 <Nothing\> here's the article, if you're interested
38:26 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico
38:48 <rust_collector> the swiss is known for all the shootings. it just is a thing
39:07 <Nothing\> well, just think about how many lives the swiss army gun has taken
39:25 <rust_collector> yes, think about that
40:28 <rust_collector> if you want something to think about, how about the swiss navy? I always thought that was a weird thing
40:41 <Nothing\> yeah aren't they landlocked?
41:01 <rust_collector> they are pertty much on the top of a mountain, yes
41:08 <Nothing\> lol
41:26 <Nothing\> i'm not too familiar with the geography of western europe
41:38 <Nothing\> or europe in general, aside from france, the UK and Spain
41:50 <Nothing\> and maybe Germany
41:56 <rust_collector> it is in the alps, between germany/austria and italy
42:00 <Nothing\> you know, i hear there are many germs in Germany
42:08 <Nothing\> can't remember where i heard that, though.
42:33 <rust_collector> but at least the germs are marching nicely in line
43:25 <rust_collector> hmm, maybe they have a border with france too, I don't remember
43:27 <Nothing\> anywho i think i'm gonna play some switch
43:30 <Nothing\> i'll bbiab
46:57 <rust_collector> i think i will go cut up a keyboard
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26:00 <arch> if power factor is low, does that necessarily mean your gadget is "inefficient"?
37:06 <T3sl4> no
24:27 <Ampera> efficiency is the ratio between power used and work done, regardless of any other factors
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42:17 <Kuschelpony> arch, i assume you mean mains power factor?
43:19 <Kuschelpony> a low mains power factor does not directly make your gear inefficient, but it means there is excessive amount of current flowing in the line, called reactive power and distortion
44:13 <Kuschelpony> so it produces increased losses in the lines, the transformers and even the alternator where the electric begins
44:29 <Kuschelpony> so the whole system gets inefficient
45:11 <arch> Kuschelpony, yes, that is what i was concerned about, heating up wires
45:22 <arch> thanks for the details :D
46:35 <arch> that heat counts as a loss of efficiency, no? for residential electricity, i dont think poor PF is charged, but you do get charged more for commercial electricity
51:11 <T3sl4> strictly speaking, the overall efficiency (including generator and transmission) will be lower with lower PF, but locally for the device itself, it makes little difference
51:18 <T3sl4> whichever one you're after
51:23 <T3sl4> or both for flavor, i guess :D
58:55 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/food/20210227_142443.jpg
58:56 <Ampera> BEEF
59:08 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/food/20210227_142811.jpg
59:09 <Ampera> CORNED BEEF
16:54 <Kuschelpony> arch, i can not speak for other countries but here in EU we have mandates that every device over 75W must have a power factoir close to 1
17:23 <Kuschelpony> has a history of burned netral wires in threephase systems and large losses in transformers
21:21 <electrohead> o/
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23:32 * T3sl4 links Ampera's corns
23:46 <T3sl4> er, licks
32:29 <Lord_of_nothing_> hey boys and girls
32:34 <Lord_of_nothing_> Today I was in the city
32:44 <Lord_of_nothing_> omg it was so stressfull
32:53 <Lord_of_nothing_> everyone drive insane
33:14 <Lord_of_nothing_> 1 sec. without ffp2 mask people start shouting...
34:47 <Lord_of_nothing_> does anyone here wear a Plate Carrier?
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44:51 <Nothing\> well that's odd
45:02 <Nothing\> i was poking around the contacts on my ecig with my multimeter
45:20 <Nothing\> there are 3 contacts, 2 outside contacts and one inside contact
45:35 <Nothing\> now as expected, the inside, or i guess middle contact is ground
45:47 <Nothing\> the left contact is the positive voltage
45:53 <Nothing\> but the right contact has nothing at all
46:01 <Nothing\> no voltage, it's not common with ground
46:10 <Nothing\> so i guess it's just there for show?
46:45 <Nothing\> i'd test this on my other ecig except the contacts on that are almost impossible to test cuz they're just nubs on a spring
46:51 <rust_collector> maybe it is just a standard connector, which would be cheaper than some custom item
47:00 <Nothing\> and it won't fire unless there's ~1ohm of load on it
47:25 <Nothing\> so i'll just short it with a piece of wire, but that wire gets hot fast, so i only have a couple of seconds to check it
47:42 <Nothing\> rust_collector, that would make sense
48:09 <Nothing\> i dunno though, cuz like even my alternate ecig has 3 contacts on it
48:20 <rust_collector> now, on the other side, does both outer contacts have voltage?
49:10 <Nothing\> but i haven't been able to test it cuz i'd have to hold a piece of wire onto the nubs with one hand, hold one probe in the other hand, hold the other probe in another hand and then hold the fire button with the other
49:22 <Nothing\> not very multimeter friendly
49:56 <rust_collector> it s perfectly multimeter friendly, it is just that you are missing an arm or two
50:03 <Nothing\> actually, i guessi could just use clip probes and clip them onto the bare wire where they make contact
50:12 <Nothing\> or i guess it's more a shunt in this context
51:04 <Nothing\> so all i'd have to do is keep contact between the wire and the contacts i'm testing with one hand and hit the fire button with the other
51:58 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i've got this box from my exercise bike i need to fix
52:10 <Nothing\> the one that tracks distance and time nad all that stuff
53:21 <rust_collector> that is not important. you just have to go for about 45 minutes, after you start having problems breathing
53:47 <Nothing\> for one thing, somebody put in a very leaky battery at one point and the terminals are completely corroded, so I've gotta replace the 2x AA battery holder. No big deal
54:09 <Nothing\> but it also looks like the PCB got burned real bad by something on the negative/ground side
54:24 <Nothing\> the solder's all dried out, the trace looks burnt
55:28 <rust_collector> weird. but I guess those 2 aa cells dumped their amazing amounts of POWER into it. or someone soldered it with a lighter
55:40 <Nothing\> and oddly enough, when i was doing continuity testing, the LCD display kept blinking on every so often and the piezo speaker would try to beep
55:57 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah all the other solder joints look perfect
57:14 <Nothing\> i even tested the resistance, open circuit across the solder joint where the burn is and all the rest of the solder joints show closed circuit
57:28 <Nothing\> resistance, continuity, w/e
57:45 <Nothing\> like, just testing across the blob of solder
59:29 * electrohead desolders Nothing\
59:56 <Nothing\> hey electrohead
00:11 <electrohead> hey mate, how's it going?
00:38 <rust_collector> no change. I guess he did not have much connected anyway...
01:07 <rust_collector> Ok, that might have been a tiny bit mean-ish
01:24 <rust_collector> oh, did he stop?
01:48 <rust_collector> electrohead, try to solder him again, and see if he starts
02:17 * electrohead re-solders Nothing\
02:24 <electrohead> there, done.
02:35 <electrohead> rust_collector: try to boot him, see if that worked
02:59 * rust_collector boots Nothing\ 
03:47 <rust_collector> did you use lead free solder? he is fairly young, so he is probably not made for proper solder
03:54 <electrohead> did he get past POST?
04:00 <rust_collector> No
04:14 * electrohead kicks Nothing\
04:16 <electrohead> ok, try again
04:18 <electrohead> (lol)
04:38 <rust_collector> I am looking for a little button cell to rip out of his chest, but I can not find it
05:11 <electrohead> check up his ass, an 18650 battery may be up there
06:08 <rust_collector> I will try to put a jumper between his nipples, maybe that will reset his efi crap
06:31 <rust_collector> too bad I only have visegrips
06:43 * electrohead breaks out the 00 gauge wire
07:31 <electrohead> there's a car creeping out in my parking lot, grr
07:38 <electrohead> brb, going out for a cig
07:44 <rust_collector> maybe boot sizes are not compatible? do they use us sizes in canadistan?
10:45 <electrohead> ok back, they rolled when I went outside, heh
10:53 <electrohead> not too sure
11:12 <rust_collector> one chart I found says they do
13:26 <rust_collector> oh, I forgot the clamps, that will leave a mark
13:59 <rust_collector> I guess he will start up after a while
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17:56 <Halcyon_Work> Mew
18:16 <rust_collector> moo moo
18:24 <Halcyon_Work> How's it going?
18:27 * Halcyon_Work prods Ampera
18:39 <rust_collector> we might have killed Nothing\
18:43 <Halcyon_Work> Oh?
19:22 <Nothing\> lol nah i've just been running around doing other things
19:38 <Nothing\> also i smashed my kneecap off the corner of the table, which was incredibly painful
19:49 <Nothing\> but thankfully once my endorphins kicked in, i was fine
19:50 <rust_collector> yes, electrohead desoldered him, then kicked his ass, then I tried kicking him, then I put vicegrips on his nipples, and ripped out his pacemaker
20:01 <rust_collector> sorry
20:08 <Nothing\> and being that it was my kneecap, there wasn't any real damage done to anything
20:09 <Halcyon_Work> As long as you didn't break anything Nothing\
20:18 <Nothing\> shnope
20:21 <Nothing\> but my brother did
20:28 <rust_collector> it is a sturdy table
20:36 <Halcyon_Work> What did your brother break?
20:36 <Nothing\> were you here when i mentioned what happened to him?
20:46 <Halcyon_Work> Nope, I only just logged on
20:53 <rust_collector> yesterday
21:02 <Halcyon_Work> Oh, no, I must have missed it
21:13 <Nothing\> nose, finger, ribs, eardrum, all 4 front upper teeth
21:32 <Halcyon_Work> Ouch
21:37 <Halcyon_Work> How did he manage that?
21:54 <Halcyon_Work> Did he blow himself up or something?
21:59 <Nothing\> his 6'3" 280lb native roommate got drunk and went crazy and literally tried to kill my brother and his other roommate
22:14 <Halcyon_Work> Oh shit
22:31 <Nothing\> just cuz his roommate said something like "man, it's a shame how the europeans came and took everything from you guys"
22:32 <EEVBlog> 42, Nothing\!
22:59 <Halcyon_Work> I assume he got charged with assault?
23:21 <Nothing\> and he started screaming about how they didn't take shit and natives still have all of it and beat the shit out of them, choked em, threw the other roommate throughmy brother's room's door
23:24 <Nothing\> oh yeah
23:27 <Nothing\> more than that
23:48 <Nothing\> assault causing bodily harm x2, and a few others we're not sure about
23:52 <steve30> Halcyon_Work, is policing done over IRC now?
24:08 <Nothing\> but my brother basically saved his roommate's life and vice versa
24:18 <Halcyon_Work> Heheh I am basically security for a high profile individual today
24:25 <Halcyon_Work> We are literally sitting around drinking coffee
24:36 <Nothing\> at one point he was choking his roommate and dude was turning blue, so my brother jumped on him and started trying to pry his hands off of his roommate's throat
24:39 <rust_collector> kick his ass
24:40 <Halcyon_Work> 7.5 more hours to go
24:41 * Ampera sneezes at Halcyon_Work 
24:45 <Nothing\> so the guy went to work on my brother
25:07 <Nothing\> beat him till he was out cold, then kept beating him while he was unconscious for a good 10-20 minutes
25:11 <Halcyon_Work> That's fucked Nothing\. I hope he ends up in jail
25:16 <Nothing\> oh he is
25:21 <Nothing\> and he's not making bail
25:26 <Halcyon_Work> As in post-court
25:39 <Ampera> It's a shame Canada doesn't have the death penalty :/
25:40 <Nothing\> he's already fled a sentencing hearing he was supposed to have had back in october for another violent crime up north
25:58 <Halcyon_Work> So he's just a piece of shit
26:19 <Ampera> Halcyon_Work, https://amperaa.net/cdn/food/20210227_142811.jpg
26:19 <Nothing\> Ampera, my first thought was i hope they throw the book at him, then i thought no, this guy's obviously troubled. I just hope he gets and accepts the help he needs and works his problems out
26:23 <Ampera> I got corned beef
26:28 * electrohead pokes Halcyon_Work
26:34 <Nothing\> but after hearing about how he beat my brother while he was not just down, but outright uncoscious
26:37 <Halcyon_Work> Heyyyy electrohead
26:44 <Ampera> I wish for everyone to die sooner rather than later
26:46 <Ampera> if they deserve it or not
26:49 <Nothing\> i hope the slimeball piece of shit gets the book thrown at him
27:00 <electrohead> hey mate
27:05 <Nothing\> and all of the charges are x2 because it was my brother AND his roommate
27:14 <Halcyon_Work> Making more biltong Ampera?
27:23 <Ampera> I am, but not from corned beef...
27:33 <Nothing\> plus the landlord's gonna charge him cuz there's a ton of destruction to the property from their heads and elbows and shoulders going through the walls
27:34 * steve30 wants chocolate
27:40 <Halcyon_Work> electrohead, I can't PM you as I'm not logged in
27:47 <Halcyon_Work> I think you can do -R on your nick?
27:48 <Nothing\> and my brother's door was destroyed cuz his roommate got thrown through it
27:58 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/food/20210227_142443.jpg
28:04 <Ampera> Halcyon_Work, that's what I'm using for biltong
28:07 <Ampera> 7lbs of eye of round
28:14 <Halcyon_Work> Hehehe round eye
28:22 <electrohead> Lol
28:44 <Nothing\> Halcyon_Work, here's him after it happened
28:45 <Nothing\> https://ibb.co/VYs93QW
29:04 <Ampera> looks like a transistor to me
29:09 <Nothing\> oh is it?
29:15 <Nothing\> stupid chrome
29:26 <Halcyon_Work> I don't get it Nothing\ ?
29:28 <Nothing\> yeah it is lol
29:29 <Halcyon_Work> Hahaha
29:33 <rust_collector> that is different
29:34 <Nothing\> Halcyon_Work, wrong link, my bad lolo
29:46 <Nothing\> yeah, he got beat so hard he turned into a transistor
31:00 <Ampera> yean I one got beaten up so hard I got turned into a tranny too
31:03 <Ampera> it sucks
31:09 <rust_collector> it does not seem any more weird than if he jumped into a pokeball
31:52 <Nothing\> okay, here's the right picture
31:53 <Nothing\> https://ibb.co/hYfYbJp
32:02 <Nothing\> THAT'S what he looked like after
32:15 <Ampera> nice pictures, maybe I'll set that as my phone's wallpaper
32:21 <Ampera> *picture
32:28 <Nothing\> Ampera, honestly, he'd get a huge kick out of that
32:38 <Halcyon_Work> Gees
32:41 <rust_collector> at least he did not have his housing cut off
32:51 <Nothing\> Halcyon_Work, like i said, dude was literally trying to kill them
33:00 <Halcyon_Work> Yeh seems like it
33:00 <Nothing\> and probably would have if it was just one of them there
33:11 <Nothing\> they both got choked really bad
34:06 <Nothing\> the paramedics suggested they go to the hospital when it happened and they declined because they didn't feel concussed, even though my brother being knocked out for 10-20 minutes while the guy was still stomping on his head tells me otherwise
34:27 <Nothing\> but the next day the cops insisted they go get checked out for the sake of their victim impact statement
34:40 <Nothing\> so they did, and that's how all of these injuries were found
35:01 <Nothing\> oh yeah, his roommate's eye got so fucked up, he's gotta see an opthamologist and get it fixed
35:49 <Nothing\> the really fucked up thing is his roommate who got beat has his kids come over once in a while
36:00 <Nothing\> so i'm just thinking what woulda happened if his kids were around
36:12 <Nothing\> or if my brother's cat hadn't died a couple of weeks ago and was still there
36:39 <Nothing\> natural causes, btw. kitty was coming up on his 17th birthday
36:50 <rust_collector> the cat would have knocked that guy out. cats are evil things
37:10 <Nothing\> i dunno, mine just run at the sight of trouble
37:22 <rust_collector> yeah, they are not dumb
37:26 <Nothing\> like when i smashed my knee today, my cat just ran cuz she thought she did something wrong
37:37 <Nothing\> cuz i was screaming in pain and cursing
37:40 <rust_collector> ok, maybe some of them are
37:43 <Nothing\> lol
37:48 <Nothing\> yeah she's not booksmart
37:54 <Nothing\> being from barn cat stock
37:58 <Nothing\> but she's street smart
38:20 <rust_collector> do you have many barns on your street?
38:30 <Nothing\> i mean, she frequently has fights, real and play with my other cat who's part maine coon, so he's at least 3x her size
38:56 <Nothing\> but she won't think twice about chasing him down and giving him a good, firm swat across the nose to let him know she means business
39:03 <rust_collector> i have seen a german sheperd who was killed by a cat. it was not nice
39:05 <Nothing\> rust_collector, nah, she was a rescue cat
39:25 <Nothing\> my cousin's wife was working with a lady to take care of and adopt out rescue cats for some time
39:30 <Nothing\> so my mum and i got 2 of them
39:44 <Nothing\> a few rescue dogs, as well
40:25 <Nothing\> they cost like $250 a piece, but that includes a chip and getting them fixed
40:33 <Nothing\> so it's a pretty good deal, i think
43:07 <Nothing\> https://ibb.co/vx5p95f
43:21 <Nothing\> there's the smaller/younger of the two. The barn cat.
43:38 <Nothing\> and that drawer she's in is only about 1 foot on each side
46:47 <Nothing\> https://ibb.co/G3x8xP5
46:59 <Nothing\> and there's the bigger one with a breadboard for size reference
47:28 <Nothing\> and he's only a month older, but since he's part maine coon, he's huge
47:46 <Nothing\> he's already over 3 feet long
47:53 <Nothing\> 38in
48:07 <Nothing\> and not even a year old yet
48:38 <Nothing\> and apparently maine coons don't get full sized until 2 or 3 years old so he's still got some growing to do
52:34 <electrohead> that's a big kitty
53:18 <rust_collector> those long haired sofa pigs do look a lot like cats
58:16 <electrohead> lol
10:22 <rust_collector> hmm, i just got a weird feeling that I should not update any computers for a few days
10:52 <Halcyon_Work> Oh?
11:16 <rust_collector> yeah, it is weird. it is just a feeling I get.
11:49 <Halcyon_Work> Because...? You'll break something?
11:59 <rust_collector> maybe? I don't know
12:36 <rust_collector> but it is fine, they will survive a few days without updating
14:26 <steve30> I'm going to bed
14:51 <rust_collector> good night
25:44 * T3sl4 squirts Halcyon_Work with sriracha
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30:07 * electrohead rubs the sriracha on his nipples
31:00 * T3sl4 does too
31:05 <T3sl4> good idea, mmm
32:11 <electrohead> lol
32:25 <electrohead> I do wonder, though, if that would burn
33:05 <rust_collector> no, it is safe even if used near open plames
33:13 <rust_collector> flames, damnit
36:35 <rust_collector> but you still should not do that while smoking
40:53 <T3sl4> or you'll turn into a chipotle
42:00 * arch slaps T3sl4 with a slimy tentacle
42:18 * T3sl4 tickles arch 10 times
42:33 <arch> much comedy genius, very wow
43:26 <rust_collector> is that a knife tentacle?
44:30 <rust_collector> heh, that is a pretty good video
47:39 <T3sl4> it's a knife video?
48:06 <rust_collector> here is a short version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ2dI_B_Ycg
48:55 <Nothing\> T3sl4, steve30, how you guys doin?
49:13 <Nothing\> oh, steve's out
49:13 <T3sl4> i just had a walk
49:16 <Nothing\> didn't see that
49:22 <Nothing\> man i wish i could get out for a walk
49:29 <rust_collector> steve said he was going t bed
49:30 <Nothing\> but it's too damn cold, even if it is above zero
49:44 <Nothing\> i don't do well in the cold, especially for a canadian
49:57 <rust_collector> but it is above zero?
49:57 <Nothing\> pretty much spend the whole winter hibernating
50:03 <Nothing\> yup
50:06 <Nothing\> or it was anyways
50:12 <Nothing\> i think it went up to 4c today
50:21 <rust_collector> nice
50:24 <Nothing\> which is what? like 37f?
50:25 <Nothing\> 38?
50:31 <rust_collector> i dunno?
50:36 <Nothing\> me neither
50:58 <Nothing\> i only use farenheit in the context of body temperature
51:01 <T3sl4> all that snow has been melting rapidly the last week
51:10 <Nothing\> cuz you get higher resolution out of farenhiet
51:14 <rust_collector> it has been 2-4 all week. it is annoying
51:17 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yup same here
51:29 <Nothing\> at least it's not as bad as it was a couple years ago
52:06 <Nothing\> when all the snow melted suddenly, the river here flooded to the point where it was up high enough that chunks of ice and debris all piled up along bridges and caused damage-
52:23 <Nothing\> and they blocked off big portions of the city
53:11 <rust_collector> well, they should have designed the city better
53:23 <Nothing\> yup
53:56 <rust_collector> and built a huge glass dome over it
55:22 <T3sl4> in my hometown, a modest size river runs through, and which is dammed about in the middle so the upstream side is pretty consistent, but downstream varies quite a bit with flow
56:00 <Nothing\> that's what you get for basing your city on an early 19th century trading post
56:10 <T3sl4> there's this tiny park, low near the shore, about two blocks down from the dam, kind of hiding below the bridge right beside it. i've seen it submerged once or twice, though never very far up
56:20 <Nothing\> T3sl4, same, right down to the dam and everything
56:55 <T3sl4> same, but, erm, probably 18th century or something? it has a french name, french fur traders were big around here back then
01:29 <rust_collector> it must be nice to live in such new places
03:28 <T3sl4> you can dig into the ground here, and not find anything ancient, not even catacombs
03:59 <rust_collector> the city near here was founded some time before 871.
04:51 <T3sl4> what use is it not even knowing how a city was founded?
05:59 <rust_collector> it was built on a lot of old crap. it did not get much better with time
09:15 <Nothing\> yeah this city actually dug a series of canals to get around the river faster cuz it was all squiqqly
09:42 <Nothing\> even though we were nowhere near any borders or lakes, we were a port of entry in Canada
10:16 <Nothing\> cuz the boats would come up the st lawrence river or up the niagara river or something and join up with the grand river, which is the one that runs through here
10:40 <Nothing\> so i guess there was a lot of immigration and goods trading
10:53 <Nothing\> but then once trains caught on, that all went tits up and nobody cared anymore
11:11 <Nothing\> now all that's left is a few spots where you can still see the derelict canal
11:19 <T3sl4> yeah, waterways were huge 18th-19th c
11:20 <Nothing\> and holy crap was it narrow
12:08 <T3sl4> that's why they dammed the river in my case, not so much for transportation as manufacturing
13:32 <T3sl4> they had a small canal sideways over to some industrial land, for use with water wheels
14:28 <T3sl4> not sure about shipping on that river, maybe not much as it's pretty shallow? maybe there was a lock for the dam back then, or maybe that was late enough (1850s) that they had rail service so who cares
15:17 <T3sl4> the river's a tributary of the mississippi of course, so it's very important downstream from there anyway
17:33 <coppice> Nothing\: canal transport in the UK was a big deal until the 1960s. In my childhood I watched the local canal go from busy to deserted
18:22 <coppice> Nothing\: it was still busy enough in the mid 60s for them to be building new houses beside some of the locks for the lockkeepers
31:25 <arch> <3 podman containers
39:11 <arch> i put this self hosted comicbook/manga app called Komga on my raspberry pi 3. had to define memory limits and cpu, since it's a java application and tends to suck up all the RAM and crash my pi. but it's working excellently now
40:07 <arch> PDFs are a no-go on the raspberry pi. it can't transcode PDFs to image files fast enough
46:16 <Nothing\> hey guys, i need some computer advice
46:23 <Nothing\> so, i wanna install a new harddrive, right
46:31 <Nothing\> but there are no drive bays of any sort in my computer
46:47 <Nothing\> not even a slot in the front of the case for an optical drive, much less bays for HDDs
47:07 <Nothing\> all it has is a little box type thing with a hole just big enough for my SSD to sit in
47:17 <Nothing\> lemme find a pic so you can see what i mean
47:40 <Nothing\> https://i.ibb.co/QHTZrKx/Computer-Guts.jpg
47:45 <Nothing\> here, see what i mean?
48:02 <Nothing\> not to mention all of the pci ports are blocked by the PSU, but that's a secondary problem atm
48:30 <Nothing\> it's clear i'll have to buy a new case at some point because of these issues, even though i really like the cooling system on this one
50:01 <Nothing\> it's just air cooled, but it's got 2 120mm fans in the front taking air in, a big fan on the PSU and 3rd 120mm fan for intake, plus i'm guessing a 120mm fan and heatsink from the looks of it on my cpu
50:27 <Nothing\> but that's why i can't install any optical drives, cuz the entire front of the computer is intake fans
50:48 <arch> you have a microatx case
51:32 <Nothing\> i've had microatx cases before that had drive bays
51:51 <Nothing\> i mean, that's like the most basic thing a case can have
52:06 <Nothing\> how else do they expect you're gonna put storage in it? USB?
52:37 <Nothing\> i actually DID end up getting 1 HDD installed by sorta stuffing it underneath the SSD inside that little box thing
52:43 <arch> i think youre outa luck with this case. you could possibly strap a HDD to the input grill of the fan, but that would reduce cooling efficiency
52:55 <arch> or you could place the HDD below that SSD you have there
53:01 <arch> and use some zip ties
53:12 <Nothing\> there's an opening in it at the back and it was all full of extra sata cables and stuff, so i just pulled those out and found a new home for them and put my HDD in it
53:23 <Nothing\> but if I ever wanna put another one in it, i'm screwed
53:39 <Nothing\> yeah it's just flapping in the breeze atm
53:48 <Nothing\> and upside down
53:52 <arch> why dont you stop being a normie and use a NAS for heavy duty storage? do you really need to store 10TB of tentacle hentai on your main desktop?
54:03 <Nothing\> i didn't wanna put it PCB side down in case it touches something metal on the case and shorts it
54:17 <Nothing\> NAS?
54:27 <Nothing\> anyways, that's what came with my computer
54:35 <arch> network attached storage. basically a bunch of HDDs inside a SoC based computer
54:41 <Nothing\> i bought it pre-built cuz i couldn't be bothered to build a computer
54:55 <arch> what are you running, windows?
54:56 <Nothing\> and it's been years since i've built a computer so i'm really out of touch with current tech
55:02 <Nothing\> yup, 19
55:03 <Nothing\> 10
55:12 <arch> are you familiar somewhat with linux?
55:22 <Nothing\> yeah, it's not useful for my needs
55:33 <Nothing\> part of the reason i got this computer was to get away from linux
55:49 <arch> lolz, good luck with that my friend...even microsoft has invested in linux and quite heavily too
55:57 <Nothing\> only thing i liked about linux was this kick ass 8051 simulator and IDE called MCU 8051
56:10 <Nothing\> had one of the most beautifully detailed GUIs i've ever esen
56:14 <arch> i think you shouldn't be looking at it as something to avoid, but rather as a useful tool.
56:40 <Nothing\> arch: it's not useful if it can't run the $800 in games i've invested in on steam
56:58 Quit: Halcyon_Work ([email protected]) EOF from client
57:05 <Nothing\> not to mention the probably just as many pirated games i have
57:08 <arch> you can't use a hammer in place of a screwdriver. you're comparing different tools
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57:17 <Halcyon_Work> Shitty fucking Dell laptop
57:28 <Nothing\> arch, exactly, and i'm saying linux isn't the tool i need for the job i want to do
57:29 <Halcyon_Work> I just picked it up and it hard locked
57:54 <Nothing\> plus the linux version of the arduino ide is garbage
58:11 <Nothing\> hasn't been updated in forever, and it was impossible to add any new libraries to it
58:22 <arch> if you have a bunch of games...it makes sense to put them on a NAS instead of putting 10TB drives inside your main desktop...you would host a SAMBA share and BAM--there's your datacenter. it's reasonable
58:30 <Nothing\> i could even have a header file open in another tab on the project or sketch or whatever
58:43 <Nothing\> and it'd be like "error: can't find xxxx.h"
58:53 <Nothing\> well then wtf is open in the other tab right now?
59:07 <arch> doesn't have to be games--can be most of your storage needs. literally all i have on my desktop is a RAID1 setup with 2 HDDs. all the heavy duty data storage is on my NAS servers
59:38 * Nothing\ shrugs
59:51 <arch> RAID1 setup for redundancy, and a USB3 rsync backup of my home directory for extra protection
00:03 <Nothing\> i've used windows and i've used linux (for at least a total of 3 years including a period of 2 years straight that i used it)
00:23 <Nothing\> and i've decided hands down that linux isn't suitable for my requirements
00:57 <Nothing\> which is easy, non-circumlocutive gaming
00:58 <arch> if you say so lol. i've ran both windows + linux at the same time with VFIO passthrough. very cool stuff
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01:18 <Nothing\> ie, being able to game while having to deal as little with the tech side of things as possible
01:26 <Nothing\> i couldn't even program properly in linux
01:32 <arch> i dont game much these days, so i dont have that setup anymore. KSP is availble on linux
02:01 <Nothing\> the copy of codeblocks i got was too broken to find gcc/g++
02:16 <Nothing\> even when i told it outright where they were
02:49 <Nothing\> i know i could just hack out some code in a text editor, but i prefer the perks of an IDE
02:58 <arch> must have been a crappy distro. should stick with Debian or Fedora
03:04 <Nothing\> it was debian
03:13 * arch presses X to doubt
03:14 <Nothing\> well ima be honest for a second
03:20 <Nothing\> raspbian
03:24 <Nothing\> so
03:27 <Nothing\> yeah
03:46 <Nothing\> but i don't think these problems were entirely related to being on a pi 3
03:49 <arch> you're trying to run full fledged linux on a $25 SoC devboard...as a complete noob...and expect things to behave? lol
03:53 <Nothing\> 3b
04:13 <Nothing\> arch, no, raspbian is meant to be run on a pi
04:31 <arch> yes, and the Pi is a $25 SoC (system on chip) devboard
04:31 <Nothing\> and i knew there would be problems with speed and stuff
04:39 <arch> it's not meant to be used as a desktop
05:05 <Nothing\> no, but it worked well enough when i needed one
05:07 <arch> hell, even the Rpi4 is not really that good as a desktop
05:09 <Nothing\> i'll give it that
05:35 <Nothing\> i mean, it couldn't even play youtube videos cuz of no hardware video, which i know isn't linux's fault
05:46 <arch> i was gonna get a 8GB Rpi4, but it's $75...you can get an i3 laptop for $75 and it'll run circles around a Rpi4
05:48 <Nothing\> i dunno how aynone could do anything emulator related on it
06:44 <Nothing\> i just bought the bullet and got a gaming computer, 1tb ssd, 16gb of... *checks cpu-z....
06:44 <arch> anyone could do anything on the RPI if they know its capabilities. you overestimated the Pi's capabilities as a desktop and had a bad experience, which you are imposing on ALL linux distros--just from that 1 experience lol
07:16 <arch> i used to have a Linksys WRT54G. i was thrilled when i got vim working on it lol
07:18 <Nothing\> 1330mhz ram
07:23 <Nothing\> DDR4
07:25 <arch> amazing what people can pack onto 4MB of flash
07:29 <Nothing\> notthe fastest, but it gets better
07:38 <Nothing\> got a ryzen 5 3600x
08:05 <arch> granted, vim took like 10 seconds to open, but it was pretty awesome to have that on a router
08:12 <Nothing\> anda geforce gtx 1660ti
08:19 <arch> 16MB of RAM on the WRT54G
08:26 <Nothing\> damn
08:30 <arch> had to have a large swap partition too
08:35 <arch> i put a SDcard mod on it too
08:38 <Nothing\> what you need all that ram for on a roture?
09:44 <Nothing\> initially to get a new desktop, i went to a computer shop looking for a low end computer with lots of upgrade capabability
10:12 <Nothing\> fucking guy wound up selling me a PC with a socket where the CPU is soldered right to the mobo
10:34 <arch> stop being a normie and get a BGA reball station like the rest of us
10:42 <Nothing\> lol
11:03 <Nothing\> reball station is what they should call the urology department in hospitsals
11:29 <Halcyon_Work> Hahah
11:52 <Nothing\> the video card in it was something like a gtx 750 i think
12:01 <Nothing\> and he was trying to claim it was worth over $300
12:13 <Nothing\> i got home and checked, the original MSRP at launch was like $120
12:58 <Nothing\> and when i got it home, the DVD drive didn't work and it took me an hour of troubleshooting to figure out that he never actually connected the drive to anything
13:22 <Nothing\> the power cable was connected, so it would turn on, open, close, etc
13:25 <Nothing\> but there was no data
14:34 <Nothing\> and apparently when my brother took it in for some sort of repair job
14:53 <Nothing\> the guy took it upon himself to delete every single image and video file just in case they were pirated
15:06 <Nothing\> who the fuck does that as a computer repair tech?
15:38 <Nothing\> unless it's kiddy porn, wtf business of his is it what's on the hdd
17:41 <Nothing\> i should do a proper stress test with cpu-z and see what the results are
18:44 <arch> the first thing anyone should do after obtaining any storage devices used, is to run 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/foo bs=10M oflag=dsync status=progress' before using it
19:20 <arch> because "formatting" does not securely remove shit
19:59 <arch> using "/dev/zero" is faster, but does not work for SSDs because they often have some sort of algorithm for compression or some shit
20:31 <arch> dev/urandom is the best way, well, besides a hardware crypto random number generator
23:09 <arch> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_random_number_generator
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57:30 <Halcyon_Work> Nearly home time
57:31 <Halcyon_Work> YAY
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26:33 <Halcyon> Grrrr, Nvidia drivers are borked again
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58:35 <Halcyon> This cannot be real: https://twitter.com/Sun_Ultra10/status/1365219185140391937
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29:46 <steve30> hi
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34:02 <steve30> hi Halcyon
34:14 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
36:35 <steve30> how was "work"?
36:47 <Halcyon> It was good
40:32 <steve30> i think i'll go out in the sunshine soon
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39:16 <hsn> man thats long errata .. https://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/SAM_D5x_E5x_Family_Silicon_Errata_DS80000748L.pdf
05:45 <T3sl4> i'd say go figure it's microchip, but that'd be only a half truth
21:33 <hsn> T3sl4, meaning microchip mcus are shit ?
21:48 <T3sl4> well, PIC errata are notorious
22:09 <hsn> well .. fck me :P
22:28 <hsn> if i have time machine i would probably go for stm
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29:31 <T3sl4> SAM is former atmel, they're fine
29:38 <T3sl4> STMs have probably about as much errata AFAIK
30:06 <T3sl4> not sure why you'd choose one over the other, their capabilities are very similar
30:09 <T3sl4> besides cost, i mean
35:59 <hsn> T3sl4, i think stm is more used ?
36:03 <hsn> in the industry ?
36:17 <T3sl4> probably
36:21 <hsn> also they provide stl library for free i think ..
36:54 <hsn> https://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/x-cube-stl.html < im not sure where i read it was free
41:39 <rust_collector> mornings
42:15 <hsn> elo rust_collector
42:39 <rust_collector> how is next week?
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