// #eevblog — 2021-02-03
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00:00:54 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, and T3sl4 is there online calculator for aluminum electrolytic life time estimation (with applied voltage / rated) (rated hours @ temperature / applied ambient)
00:01:05 <T3sl4> yes
00:01:09 <hsn> the one i saw doesnt care for applied voltage
00:01:23 <T3sl4> https://www.omnicalculator.com/chemistry/arrhenius-equation
00:01:57 <T3sl4> probably a similar function applies for voltage, you'll have to look up or solve for the constants tho
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00:02:31 <hsn> https://eepower.com/tools/electrolytic-capacitor-life-calculator/#
00:02:33 <hsn> and this
00:02:34 <hsn> ?
00:03:17 * electrohead hugs T3sl4
00:03:20 <electrohead> mornings
00:03:22 <hsn> holy crap that thing is the foundation T3sl4 ?
00:03:35 <hsn> Arrhenius ^
00:04:02 <hsn> or u sent it as joke xD ?
00:04:18 <T3sl4> it's where the exponent comes from yes
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00:14:51 <rust_collector> mornings
00:15:04 <T3sl4> 'lo
00:15:04 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
00:15:20 <rust_collector> time for my weird tea drink
00:15:35 <rust_collector> does anyone want some?
00:15:50 * electrohead has coffee
00:15:57 <rust_collector> if you do, you need help.
00:16:01 * Ysjoelfir has afri25
00:16:16 * rust_collector has coffee ready, to get rid of the tea taste
00:18:26 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, whatever you do with your site. test it in lynx or elinks, or links2, or w3, or something like that
00:19:09 <K> mist_collector
00:19:36 <rust_collector> k
00:25:42 <Ysjoelfir> whatever that is, rusty, I'll use that to test
00:26:18 <rust_collector> they are browsers
00:26:40 <Ysjoelfir> I kind of expected that. whats so special about them?
00:27:10 <rust_collector> they are console things. they have almost no features.
00:27:22 <Ysjoelfir> aaaah, I see :)
00:27:30 <rust_collector> so if you can make a site that works in that, it should be ok
00:27:40 <Ysjoelfir> that will be a challenge, making a website display good in a console. but I like that challenge.
00:28:19 <rust_collector> nah, if you stay with html and use the other stuff as seasoning for the normal browsers...
00:28:44 <rust_collector> but some times the seasoning messes up how it works without it, so..
00:28:47 <Ysjoelfir> isn't that what you would do anyways? well, I would probably use PHP, but...
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00:29:34 <Ysjoelfir> I would want my website to be just a simple frame that changes its content depending on the link. that should be easy enough to do?
00:31:36 <T3sl4> easy enough you could do it in 1992 :P
00:31:57 <Ysjoelfir> I was 2 in 1992. I highly doubt that.
00:32:37 <T3sl4> well, someone could then, if not you :P
00:33:06 <Ysjoelfir> That indeed is very probable, yes
00:33:21 <K> there was no php in 1992
00:33:38 <rust_collector> I mean, make it look like you want, but the main things should still be usable without a big browser, imo
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00:34:28 <rust_collector> ok, that was todays water drink. time for coffee and breakfast I think
00:34:46 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, I highly agree with that. The thing should be ideally just some background images with varying texts. nothing scripty or whatever. so... I think that should be doable?^^
00:35:12 <rust_collector> maybe
00:36:12 <T3sl4> my website... should? be usable on an older browser, but i still don't think my server headers or redirects are right /shrug
00:36:26 <rust_collector> The background images might not work, but test things should be fine. It also depends on the browser used. they support different things
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00:37:01 <rust_collector> T3sl4, they are not older, they are just without extra features.
00:38:02 <rust_collector> hmm, give me a link? i will have a look
00:38:14 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.seventransistorlabs.com
00:38:25 <K> seventransistorlords
00:38:31 <Ysjoelfir> löl
00:39:05 <K> at least it is https
00:39:27 <rust_collector> yes, your header has something odd going on
00:39:38 <T3sl4> it should be available http as well, it's just supposed to prefer that
00:39:52 <rust_collector> and the footer
00:39:58 <T3sl4> and the no-www should redirect to www but i think that's kinda broken too
00:40:13 <K> noone cares about www or not
00:40:22 <rust_collector> but other than that, it seems to work well enough
00:40:27 <K> footer seems to be missing
00:40:36 <T3sl4> rust_collector: as i recall the iframes don't look right in IE8 or 9, but that's not very important
00:40:37 <K> soross stole it, prolly
00:40:42 <K> do not do iframes
00:40:46 <K> it is a sin.
00:40:46 <T3sl4> damn you soros, wheres my sorosbucks
00:41:07 <T3sl4> well the thing is, iframes would work better, they're older. i used objects because i tried to be smart
00:41:13 <Ysjoelfir> Hey, I remember iframes from back then. :D
00:41:31 <K> nein, verboten. kein iframen!
00:41:32 <Ysjoelfir> I was told that its the worst thing you could ever do to a website
00:41:43 <Ysjoelfir> :P
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00:42:01 <T3sl4> they do lead to some messy messes
00:42:13 <T3sl4> but i'm literally just doing it to save copying those things
00:42:27 <T3sl4> better than learning shitty php and making a server app
00:42:33 <K> there is absolutely nothing wrong with plain html layout, witout any backgrounds or stuff
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00:43:02 <K> have you looked at static site generators?
00:43:02 <T3sl4> it's still passable even without css, i think?
00:43:31 <K> css is not necessary at all
00:43:33 <T3sl4> i'm rather unimaginative when it comes to layout, it's pretty much single column, inline image/table figures, occasionally a sidebar img
00:43:41 <T3sl4> i have not
00:43:46 <K> yeah, the good kind of boring
00:44:28 <T3sl4> only place i use js is on the calculators, and also to munge my phone number, which i guess is probably a good idea?
00:44:43 <T3sl4> no trackers or anything
00:44:52 <T3sl4> it's all in my server logs anyways :P
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00:45:42 <rust_collector> https://ibb.co/Hprgs4W
00:46:28 <T3sl4> yeah, if your browser doesn't support <OBJECT> it ain't supported by me either :P
00:46:28 <K> https://jekyllrb.com/
00:46:39 <K> i thing this one is/was quite popular
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00:47:08 <T3sl4> ah, hm
00:48:14 <K> i am away from web side of things as of few years, but i did get my bread and butter in web backends for like 10+ years
00:48:33 <K> fuck im old :|
00:48:34 <rust_collector> so it is your fault... ok
00:48:41 <rust_collector> yes, that is true
00:48:59 <T3sl4> that's fine, my web dev experience basically ends in 1995 :P
00:50:23 <rust_collector> mine never started
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01:00:28 <K> T3sl4: also this - https://gohugo.io/
01:00:34 <rust_collector> so, when does mr andres stream start?
01:01:03 <K> if you care for such things, then jekyll is implemented in ruby, hugo is in go
01:01:18 <K> personally i find botth those languages weird
01:02:50 <T3sl4> either way, the thing needs to be windows compatible
01:04:08 <T3sl4> i guess they want a ruby devkit installed, sounds about right
01:04:23 <K> prolly hugo then, ruby and windows can get strange sometimes
01:04:59 <K> but there are others too
01:05:41 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.upwork.com/jobs/Need-Electrical-Circuit-designer-help-develop-small-backup-power-supply-for-appliance_~0138a415b854368643/ T3sl4 again something interesting :P I mean, realy interesting actually, until the third-last paragraph, then it gets into the "Oh. Yes, I noticed that."-Territory. But might still be salvageable
01:06:42 <T3sl4> aw, restricted
01:06:54 <rust_collector> K, what is the reason to use one of these things? I guess it is more or less a pile of templates you can mix and match, and it pukes out some site?
01:07:29 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4 https://snipboard.io/a8crVK.jpg
01:08:00 <T3sl4> doing it by hand, i don't have any way to rewrite common content only once
01:08:09 <T3sl4> the object/iframe is the attempt at that
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01:09:41 <K> rust - yes
01:09:58 <K> the input is simple markdown and result is somewhat nice looking html and stuff
01:10:06 <T3sl4> else i have to search and replace something across... 50 or so files
01:10:14 <T3sl4> which isn't the most reliable thing to do
01:10:29 <rust_collector> I mean, I can see that being useful, if you do that stuff every day.
01:10:45 <K> or easy to pick up when you need to change one thing in 3 months
01:10:51 <T3sl4> it's a shame tim didn't adopt the latex method of making macros super simple
01:11:18 <K> postscript over http ?
01:11:20 <K> eh
01:11:25 <K> i'll pass.
01:11:40 <T3sl4> maybe not ps, that's a full on language... but then, latex technically is too
01:11:50 <T3sl4> (tho, not sure how complete it was at the time)
01:12:08 <K> latex for typesetting is ok
01:12:09 <T3sl4> i forget when latex was introduced (as opposed to base tex)
01:12:18 <K> latex for creating templates and extensions is quite a nightmare
01:12:25 <T3sl4> yes.
01:13:03 <T3sl4> i suppose i'll have to write tables and calculators in html still, but doing it in templates for basic articles would be nice, and landing pages/tocs/indexes
01:13:07 <K> TeX is turing complete
01:13:20 <K> i think you can include html content as well
01:13:32 <T3sl4> yeah it says it can pull in html
01:14:01 <T3sl4> i recall reading something about early tex being intentionally limited, but eventually (quickly??) it was expanded to be turing complete and the rest is history
01:14:17 <K> pandoras box be damned
01:16:23 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: i could see starting with an existing design of mine and adding a battery and BMS thing. who knows about form factor, EMC and DFM tho
01:17:31 <Ysjoelfir> I immagine the size being a big PITA in that one
01:17:38 <T3sl4> also thermal
01:18:04 <Ysjoelfir> obviously, if you want it to be small there can't be a big heatsink
01:18:15 <T3sl4> and PFC, etc
01:18:18 <rust_collector> my old dell "laptop" had a charger that you could fit a car battery, and a small diesel generator in, and by the weight, maybe it had
01:18:27 <Ysjoelfir> lol
01:19:43 <K> clown car charger
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02:07:27 <Ysjoelfir> should I be worried about a job proposal about creating some ESP32 device thing from someone whose recent history consists of 95% "Ghost writer for new woman lifestyle blog" job offers?
02:09:29 <rust_collector> does it need to be vibration proof?
02:09:37 <Ysjoelfir> no.
02:09:42 <K> mhh
02:09:50 <rust_collector> then yes, be worried
02:11:12 <Ysjoelfir> well, the asked salary is loughable (3 to 10$/h), so I would have applied only as a joke.
02:11:26 <Ysjoelfir> I wouldn't expect that to be anything serious at all
02:11:59 <rust_collector> if it was a half hour job... well... why not take an hours pay for it?
02:12:29 <Ysjoelfir> because 20 per hour is still very weak ^^ and no, it would be a bit more than that, probably 10 hours
02:12:37 <rust_collector> meh
02:14:43 <T3sl4> it wouldn't even cover the one beer required to complete the job
02:17:47 <rust_collector> you like large beers, i guess
02:19:04 <T3sl4> hrm, i read that as an hour or a half, not as ten
02:19:23 <T3sl4> but in any case, the hourly rate will not exceed the beerly rate
02:19:39 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: so, i joined and proposaled to those projects, we'll see what happens i guess
02:20:24 <Ysjoelfir> gra, seems like I am not identified to nickop. I was wondering why you didn't respond to my message xD
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03:14:04 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: thats true but T3sl4 doesnt respond as well
03:14:29 <T3sl4> just not to you
03:14:55 <hsn> :p
03:14:59 <rust_collector> he is just busy having a deep conversation with me
03:15:16 <T3sl4> deep? owo
03:15:19 <hsn> Deep fake
03:18:06 <hsn> Man
03:18:39 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uZe3gymsjoe6xKy96
03:18:48 <hsn> These ppl called me yesterday
03:18:57 <hsn> Central bank of bahrain
03:19:14 <T3sl4> sounds important
03:19:19 <hsn> And i didnt have time for them ..
03:19:30 <hsn> Now they rnt responding to me
03:19:50 <hsn> They asked me
03:19:56 <hsn> Arabic or english
03:20:13 <hsn> And since i know he is from pakistan .. i choose arabic for fun
03:20:26 <hsn> Then he gave the phone to his friend
03:21:07 <hsn> Then his friend started explaining in cracked arabic version... And i lost it .. so i told him i know u scammer
03:21:36 <T3sl4> do phones actually read in a picture or avatar or whatever, these days?
03:21:40 <hsn> And now im calling them to tell them im bank of pakistan
03:21:52 <hsn> Thats whatsapp
03:21:58 <T3sl4> oh
03:22:06 <T3sl4> oshiii they better have their bribe monies ready for you
03:22:19 <hsn> Just as troll
03:22:41 <hsn> I usually love to troll scammers
03:23:29 <rust_collector> I have only had one call like that, I think they were from "windows support"
03:23:46 <T3sl4> tell them you have taken posession of their scam money, and they must send $300 to their uncles to free it
03:24:27 <hsn> T3sl4: sounds like a good plan
03:24:54 <hsn> I only expect the call to end with both parties cursing each other
03:25:24 <hsn> U fucking pakistan ur mother is whore ... Etc etc
03:25:29 <hsn> Lol
03:25:43 <rust_collector> "how did you know?"
03:25:52 <hsn> And he doing like. . u fcking bahraini we take all ur money u stupid mother fckers
03:27:11 <hsn> So who can tell which ic is this .. being used in power supply... Isolated 120vac to some dc
03:27:13 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/6hQfEkg7gKCYVrJA7
03:27:16 <K> "Kashmir belongs to India!"
03:27:23 <K> that should rile them up quite good
03:28:12 <hsn> Drives a n mos .. connected to bobbin transformer ..
03:29:39 <rust_collector> I think they should find some errors in the papers they wrote, when they split up india, and just go back to the old way, without any of the pakistans. that would be fun
03:30:26 <coppice_> Kashmir belongs to the ones who stole it
03:30:28 <K> make india brittish again?
03:30:29 <rust_collector> we can not accept this document mr sir, there are many error in grammar here
03:35:35 <rust_collector> I think it should be british again. but you have to take both pakistans too
03:39:28 <K> hard bargain
03:41:37 <coppice_> I'd love to have insight into the workings of a group that came up with the idea of forming a country from 2 pieces far apart without much in common, and didn't get laughed at
03:42:08 <hsn> https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000318347598.html
03:42:10 <rust_collector> it is a bit weird
03:42:23 <hsn> Which ic is this ^
03:42:40 <Ysjoelfir> its a FA8A71 8A71 SOP-8
03:42:43 <K> a chinese one
03:42:48 <Ysjoelfir> From Changsheng Dianzi
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03:44:03 <hsn> Is there datasheet for it ever lol?
03:44:04 <K> internet thinks it is an EISA bus controller
03:44:16 <K> made by Intel
03:44:16 <Ysjoelfir> I somehow doubt that
03:44:22 <K> no it must be
03:44:48 <hsn> Its similar to https://photos.app.goo.gl/6hQfEkg7gKCYVrJA7
03:45:12 <hsn> And if its same .. it will be switching controller
03:45:18 <hsn> But cant find it
03:45:35 <K> if it is near mosfets and inductors, then it probably is
03:46:58 <rust_collector> maybe this one is close? <hsn> But cant find it
03:47:16 <rust_collector> https://www.fujielectric.com/products/semiconductor/model/power_supply/technical/box/pdf/RD_FA8A70N_65W_E.pdf
03:47:16 <K> for some reason google for "FA8A71 switching" gives mouser as first result - https://eu.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Power-Management-ICs/Voltage-Regulators-Voltage-Controllers/Switching-Voltage-Regulators/_/N-668jt?P=1z0yy2lZ1z0z7pt
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03:49:00 <hsn> rust_collector: how the hell did u find that
03:49:11 <rust_collector> i used a search engine
03:49:32 <rust_collector> I know, I am weird
03:49:41 <hsn> K i saw these .. they didnt look similar .. i think its the rusty one
03:49:55 <hsn> But what did u wrote .. i tried a lot
03:50:21 <rust_collector> i wrote fa8a71 datasheet
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03:50:52 <hsn> I did
03:51:09 <K> different internets
03:51:10 <rust_collector> use yandex for things like that
03:51:52 <hsn> Hah
03:51:57 <hsn> Russian?
03:51:59 <rust_collector> yes
03:52:03 <rust_collector> ys.ru
03:52:07 <rust_collector> ya.ru
03:52:07 <hsn> Cool
03:53:20 <rust_collector> google probably has it too, but it would be on page 1392
03:53:37 <hsn> No
03:53:56 <K> computer says no!
03:54:08 <hsn> It only loads like 30 pages .. all are links to aliexpress ppl selling it
03:54:12 <hsn> With no details
03:54:16 <rust_collector> computer agrees with hsn then
03:54:19 <hsn> 30 results i mean
03:54:26 <rust_collector> heh, weird
03:54:56 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/mBEufmtfEyHUGkNe6
03:55:14 <hsn> Yandix works for me also .. first result
03:56:32 <K> yourdix
03:56:47 <K> welp, home time.
03:56:49 <K> cyas
03:57:38 <rust_collector> yes, almost time to go to work
03:57:45 <rust_collector> have fun mr K
04:00:50 <hsn> Enjoys both of u
04:01:25 <rust_collector> I think I will go a bit early today, and yell at the working people.
04:03:30 <rust_collector> Andre, when does the stream start?
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05:08:39 <Abe> Hello Dave. Congratulation on becoming a senior member of the IEEE!
05:09:09 <Abe> I am chatting from India, so its 11:39 PM here.
05:10:45 <T3sl4> hah
05:11:14 <Ysjoelfir> Hello India guy! Its 19:10 here in germanistan!
05:11:17 <T3sl4> i think dave's actually stopped here by once or twice
05:11:27 <Ysjoelfir> Did he? I never saw him
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05:11:54 <Ysjoelfir> lol?
05:12:03 <T3sl4> like our momentary new friend, i guess you just missed him :)
05:16:01 <electrohead> FUCK THE SNOW
05:16:02 <electrohead> I mean
05:16:04 <electrohead> hey o/
05:16:16 <T3sl4> fuck the sn o/
05:16:39 <T3sl4> sn o \/\/ ?
05:17:23 <electrohead> lol
05:17:31 <electrohead> yeah man, we got about two feet of it
05:17:38 <T3sl4> ouch
05:17:52 <T3sl4> we got... a few inches, enough that the roads were a mess a couple days ago
05:18:15 <electrohead> I shoveled my building out, my car, my ex's car, then helped one neighbor a bit, and helped shovel another neighbor's car out
05:18:19 <electrohead> I'm sore as fuck
05:18:22 <Ysjoelfir> we got like five gazillion liters of rain
05:18:23 <T3sl4> probably up to like 6" now or something but it's hard to tell with drifts and such?
05:18:26 <electrohead> the age thing is starting to catch up to me >.<
05:18:47 <T3sl4> yep, gotta pace yourself
05:19:20 <T3sl4> if you were shoveling like that every other day, it would be... just as much bother, but at least not as painful? :P
05:19:29 <electrohead> :P
05:19:38 <electrohead> well, my knees are fucking screaming at me
05:19:54 <T3sl4> also, that's enough that snowblowers might not do much
05:19:59 <T3sl4> gotta have a good one, anyway
05:20:09 <electrohead> then again, been having slight issues with my left knee, still waiting on the phone call from the VA to get scheduled for an X-ray and MRI
05:20:15 <T3sl4> aw
05:20:25 <electrohead> well, my dad helped a fuck ton by getting his excavator out
05:20:27 <electrohead> :D
05:20:29 <T3sl4> def take a few days off em or somethin
05:20:30 <T3sl4> nice
05:20:40 <electrohead> I have work tomorrow, tis' going to be fun, guh
05:21:01 <T3sl4> take a mobility scooter in :P
05:22:36 <electrohead> lmfao
05:22:47 <electrohead> we have an order coming in tomorrow
05:22:48 <electrohead> >.<
05:23:02 <electrohead> going to be at least 3 or 4 pallets of stock
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06:21:39 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CKyFyOQlc3X/?igshid=6j0bse4b3718
06:21:39 <hsn> Nice
06:31:00 <hsn> I know his feeling https://www.instagram.com/reel/CKw0JEmJz8e/?igshid=1e3y21kz41k7v
06:31:27 <hsn> My wife ask me while im in 0 IQ mood ..
06:31:47 <hsn> And she get angry because i act like him
06:50:27 <Ysjoelfir> huh? you have different IQ modes? cool! Can I learn that as well?
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07:54:25 <rusty_contactor> well well well. what a busy day.
07:55:00 * Ysjoelfir sands rust_collector
07:55:30 * rusty_contactor feels shiny
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07:56:02 Nick: rusty_contactor is now known as shiny_contactor
07:57:02 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:57:19 <shiny_contactor> so. what is happening?
07:58:39 <shiny_contactor> everything is early here, so i am probably not going to eat kebab, or sit here for an hour+
07:59:02 <Ysjoelfir> no?
07:59:09 <Ysjoelfir> I heard something exploded.
07:59:23 <shiny_contactor> it was my sanity
07:59:30 <Ysjoelfir> maybe, but also some spaceX thingy
07:59:37 <shiny_contactor> oh, goodie
08:00:16 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
08:01:08 <shiny_contactor> that is the best reason for space things, now that fun fireworks is pretty restricted
08:03:01 <shiny_contactor> there was something that happened a bit to the south from work, road was closed, and blue lights everywhere. it is either something very bad, or someone had a flat tire
08:03:26 <Ysjoelfir> I thought you don't have atomic power plants? :P
08:03:31 Nick: shiny_contactor is now known as rc_short
08:04:30 <rc_short> well, they are not power plants, but research reactors. they were dexommisioned last year
08:05:03 <Ysjoelfir> ah, nice. then it was probably that
08:05:41 <rc_short> neeh wrong direction, but if it was, it has to be pretty severe
08:06:33 <rc_short> one is in halden, almost in sweden, and to the south. but we can always hope
08:07:49 <rc_short> the other place is not far from here. the one in halden is pretty weird, as it is in a mountain in the middle of the city
08:08:37 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a perfect position xD
08:09:42 <rc_short> yep. after talking to quite a few people living there, i would not mind that place blown up
08:12:07 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like very likeable people living there
08:12:37 <rc_short> no comment
08:14:36 <Ysjoelfir> :P
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08:16:45 <rc_short> so, i was thinking about sticking my chinese "signal generator" in a proper box, with its own little power supply. otoh, i should put it in the art bin
08:17:21 <rc_short> i guess it does what i can expect, from suxh a cheap thing
08:17:50 <Ysjoelfir> which one is it?
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08:18:36 <rc_short> the generic xr2206 , iirc
08:19:04 <Ysjoelfir> ah, I see. those are... ok-ish. better than nothing probably?
08:19:12 <rc_short> i have an extra chip for it, which is "real"
08:19:39 <rc_short> yeah, i guess it does ok-ish.
08:19:52 <Ysjoelfir> I still kinda regret giving a away my Toellner to a guy who said he would be an enthusiast student with not much money. promised me to keep me updated what he did with it, never heard from him again.
08:20:31 <rc_short> i saw a thread on the forum, with some upgrades, which i might do to it
08:21:30 <rc_short> yea, that is annoying. i guess he did mean to, when you talked to him... things change
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08:23:12 <rc_short> the thing that nnoy me with this thing, is that you have to measure what it does, before you use it. I can not set it to say 366 megagigs square sines
08:23:12 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, but I have been fooled several times already >_> once I gave away a Tektronix.. 645? something in that ballpark. a good tube scope. few weeks later I found the case of it with everything ripped out on the trash and the twooooobs on ebay
08:23:29 <rc_short> aww
08:23:31 <Ysjoelfir> for that problem a case would be helpful indeed
08:23:54 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: my iq moods sweep from 0 .. to my max iq ..
08:24:06 <Ysjoelfir> cool hsn, teach me!
08:24:19 <hsn> Let me find it
08:24:45 <rc_short> so most of the time over 0?
08:26:20 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: 3:30 https://youtu.be/0KrOZe2SxoQ
08:26:40 <hsn> Well yeah ..
08:27:01 <rc_short> æ
08:27:06 <rc_short> awesome
08:27:56 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
08:29:21 <rc_short> øøøø
08:29:51 <hsn> So i can see that contactor guy is probably rusty .. who is rc .. ?
08:30:14 <hsn> Both feel like ruwty to me xD
08:30:24 <rc_short> maybe, maybe maybe
08:30:56 <hsn> So why two Nick
08:31:26 <hsn> To confuse us?
08:31:38 <rc_short> when you have certain disorders, it helps to have one per personality
08:31:39 <hsn> To rustfy our brain?
08:32:02 <hsn> Dont we all have that?
08:32:11 <rc_short> so, what are you talking about, exactly?
08:32:24 <hsn> Aint .. single personality ppl .. are the disordered?
08:32:35 <rc_short> rc is me, and...
08:32:42 <rc_short> ???
08:33:17 <hsn> I just missed
08:33:20 <hsn> [00:03] * shiny_contactor is now known as rc_short
08:33:27 <hsn> And thought there r two
08:33:50 <rc_short> then the list would be longer, no?
08:34:06 <hsn> I never check the list
08:34:37 <rc_short> you should make a small perl script to check that for you
08:34:57 <hsn> What does it do
08:35:09 <rc_short> what?
08:35:21 <hsn> The perl script ..
08:35:30 <rc_short> what the script you should make does?
08:35:33 <hsn> What should it do exactly
08:35:46 <hsn> Well idk .. u said i should
08:35:49 <rc_short> depends a lot on what you write, i guess
08:36:28 <hsn> What does ur script do
08:37:00 <rc_short> i dont use one, as i can check the list on my own
08:37:14 <hsn> Its long list
08:37:20 <hsn> How do u check
08:37:48 <rc_short> i dont feel like adding too much stuff to my client here on the phone
08:37:52 <hsn> Some ppl are idle forever
08:38:27 <rc_short> well, it is in plain text, so i just look at it, like reading, i guess?
08:39:16 <Ysjoelfir> "reading"? I heard that once. isn't that somethign nasty?
08:39:31 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: what is nasty
08:39:38 <Ysjoelfir> reading
08:39:51 <hsn> The word u wrote appears ***** to me
08:39:55 <hsn> XD
08:40:44 <hsn> I hate ****** .. thats why i only watch youtube to get info
08:40:53 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/h6x2E5.jpg
08:41:22 <hsn> No .. it appears ***** to my eye ..
08:41:28 <hsn> Blocked mentally
08:41:47 <Ysjoelfir> oh^^
08:42:34 <hsn> Well
08:42:39 <hsn> I think
08:42:45 <hsn> I need the sleep
08:44:31 <Ysjoelfir> sleep well :)
08:46:04 <rc_short> zleeeeep
08:46:51 <rc_short> https://ibb.co/RCYy02H
08:46:59 <rc_short> is that working?
08:47:22 <Ysjoelfir> yep
08:47:26 <Ysjoelfir> snow!
08:47:34 <Ysjoelfir> and a green truck. and footsteps!
08:47:34 <rc_short> psnow!
08:47:54 <rc_short> yes, it is missing one step
08:49:11 <Ysjoelfir> did you dance your way away from the truck?
08:49:21 <rc_short> pretty light today, should be a quick trip home
08:49:35 <rc_short> uuh, not as far as i can remember?
08:50:31 <rc_short> but this is good, at least the copying things and pasting works
08:52:34 <Ysjoelfir> how much did they load into "you"?
08:53:13 <rc_short> i realy like these trailers, because they are nice steel containers, so you can ignore the tesla model s and x that for some reason is impossible to keep in a single lane around a curve
08:53:44 <rc_short> uhm, 19.1 on the truck, and 17.5 on the trailer
08:54:52 <Ysjoelfir> Hahaha :P I remember two trucks with the exact same tracking problem approaching me when I drove down the way you suggested to me in August ;)
08:55:51 <rc_short> well, at least you got the nice view
08:56:05 <Ysjoelfir> indeed, it was realy beautiful
08:56:20 <Ysjoelfir> my brakediscs are still a bit blue.
08:56:37 <rc_short> it is less boring, than most of the area around there
08:56:58 <Ysjoelfir> I enjoyed it very much^^
08:57:46 <rc_short> i still think you are weird for camping for days in morgedal... but whatever you want
08:58:37 <Ysjoelfir> Lol^^ The guys were nice, it was cheap and a very nice campground. and they had warm showers, which was great for my two "girls"
08:59:03 <Ysjoelfir> Gworg showered every freakin day for like 45 minutes, annoying the heck out of all the other campers xD
08:59:14 <rc_short> it is more "interesting" up there now.
08:59:22 <Ysjoelfir> Is it?
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08:59:33 <rc_short> hot showers are niiice
08:59:53 <Ysjoelfir> they are indeed. but not neccessary to enjoy your vacation^^
09:00:00 <rc_short> well, it is about an hour from the end of the road now...
09:00:35 <Ysjoelfir> huh? why that?
09:00:49 <rc_short> well, i think it is open today, but it is snowing, so it will probably close soon
09:00:58 <Ysjoelfir> aah, I see
09:01:20 <rc_short> it is at the start of the mountain, so... yes
09:02:18 <rc_short> so do you think gworg would do such a trip again?
09:03:02 <Ysjoelfir> We are actually planning if and where we want to go this year. also we'll take another friend with us. Finland is pretty high on their list atm
09:03:36 <rc_short> finland should be nice in summer
09:04:18 <Ysjoelfir> I have to fix some things on the volvo until than though. going to do the wheel bearings on thursday if everything works as I have planned
09:04:38 <rc_short> so, poland boat sweden boat finalnd?
09:05:20 <Ysjoelfir> either that, or visiting K and going from there xD
09:05:26 <Ysjoelfir> well, without him knowing
09:05:41 <rc_short> is a plan
09:05:53 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure he'll be happy
09:05:59 <rc_short> well, i am going home, have fun
09:06:10 <Ysjoelfir> drive safe :)
09:06:18 <rc_short> heh sure...
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12:10:42 <rust_collector> yaaay!
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12:15:54 <rust_collector> clarkos, I think you have a not great connection
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14:55:06 <electrohead> holy disconnects, batman
14:55:15 <rust_collector> yep
14:57:00 <steve30> o/
15:03:16 <electrohead> o/
15:43:01 <steve30> I think I'll do some more electronicing
15:45:51 <hsn> https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/health/variant-mutation-e484k/index.html
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18:00:00 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
18:00:00 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
18:01:50 <hsn> morn Ysjoelfir
18:02:05 * Ysjoelfir mourns at hsn
18:02:18 <hsn> its hot here
18:02:53 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, yesterday I ate the last of half of the cookies. Now there are only the ones leftover that are going to rust_collector. damn :D
18:03:24 <hsn> u need to be sent more ..
18:03:32 <Ysjoelfir> lol
18:03:33 <hsn> :P
18:03:48 <Ysjoelfir> nah, its fine^^ its sooooo expensive to ship stuff from sandistan^^
18:04:09 <Ysjoelfir> I still need to collect some stuff to send to rust_collector so that its worth the shipping money
18:04:37 <hsn> this looks good also https://images.app.goo.gl/LgyGWN5mMXyeYYgi6
18:04:49 <steve30> did I hear someone mention cookies?
18:04:52 <Ysjoelfir> uuuh, indeed!
18:06:11 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, maybe thats something for you as a fellow sandistanian? https://www.upwork.com/jobs/PTZ-keyboard_~01259bf030ffe0eef8/
18:06:55 <hsn> man
18:07:07 <hsn> mr boss wants to controller to operate at 70deg
18:07:21 <Ysjoelfir> thats... a bit high.ish?
18:07:46 <hsn> yeah
18:12:19 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, https://snipboard.io/bm9zug.jpg
18:13:10 <Ysjoelfir> i see
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18:14:40 * Ysjoelfir hugs T3sl4 back
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18:15:33 <T3sl4> me bastard!
18:16:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
18:17:02 * hsn hugs dieing kenny
18:17:11 * hsn stabs more
18:17:32 <Ysjoelfir> :P
18:17:46 * steve30 curls up on Ysjoelfir's keyboard
18:19:44 <Ysjoelfir> gshir sgeih<ehsao<epug<ep p g<eopgo<eshpojogep<soj
18:20:11 <steve30> meow :p
18:20:21 <Ysjoelfir> :P
18:32:10 <hsn> get a room u 2
18:32:11 <hsn> :P
18:32:36 * Ysjoelfir pets hsn
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19:01:08 * steve30 is making an electronic repair video
19:01:23 <Ysjoelfir> nice, what are you fixing?
19:01:58 <steve30> Power supply in the Canon XL1 camcorder. I think I can fix the PSU part, but there's a chance that the PSU failure might have fried everything else.
19:14:41 <Ysjoelfir> We'll see :)
19:31:02 * steve30 hunts around for PNP transistors
19:32:16 * Ysjoelfir hands steve30 some MJ2955s
19:32:47 <steve30> Bit big for an SMD footprint
19:33:13 <Ysjoelfir> nah. you're just not creative enough
19:46:24 <K> hello birches
19:50:42 <Ysjoelfir> hello oak
19:51:03 * Ysjoelfir hands K a 2N3055, just to complement the steve
19:53:42 <K> oh, thanks
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19:53:56 <K> legit or chinesium?
19:54:31 <Ysjoelfir> Its made by Tesla (the good Tesla, not that elonium garbage), so I would assume genuine
19:54:46 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/ZpYUFth.jpg
19:54:59 <Ysjoelfir> lol
19:55:57 <K> that is some dad-joke level material, T3sl4
19:56:14 <T3sl4> you're welkome
20:01:33 <steve30> This Canon service manual calls regulators "reguraters"
20:01:48 <Ysjoelfir> pffff.... that irony. "We are looking for a very talented electronic engineering expert bla bla" - Payment: 15$/h
20:07:53 <K> electronic engeneering expert
20:08:03 <K> bad english is bad
20:08:25 <Ysjoelfir> you think so? :P
20:10:35 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, woah thats great catch
20:11:06 <K> Ysjoelfir doubts his talents is what it its
20:11:16 <Ysjoelfir> indeed²
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20:11:50 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, that thing he put picture
20:12:35 <Ysjoelfir> yes?
20:12:39 <hsn> it look so much like
20:12:40 <hsn> https://bird-dog.tv/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ptzk-gear.jpg
20:12:48 <hsn> the slider i wanted to do
20:12:51 <Ysjoelfir> it probably is
20:13:09 <hsn> but damn this is so much cooler
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20:21:29 <Ysjoelfir> "okabbub" is a nice word
20:22:18 <steve30> I found some 2N3906s, which may be too small, but we'll see if it'll work
20:23:22 <Ysjoelfir> didn't blow up? might be working after all!
20:40:09 <steve30> didn't blow up, but the board isn't working either
20:45:41 <K> can you power the board with external power supply?
20:48:21 <steve30> Yes, I just did that and it seems to power up fine.
20:48:49 <steve30> Trouble is there's loads of regulators on the board producing different voltages, but I just injected 3V into this part and it looks OK
20:49:07 <steve30> Still can't tell yet if everything else on the board is OK, but it looks promising.
20:49:52 <steve30> I may be able to just stick a 3V linear regulator IC in there somehow
20:55:18 <K> no schematic for the psu?
20:57:22 <steve30> I have the schematic
20:57:30 <Halcyon> Evening all
20:57:38 <steve30> hi Halcyon
20:57:48 <Halcyon> How goes it?
20:57:57 <steve30> I'm just electronicsing
20:58:05 <steve30> also I put a pasty in the oven
20:58:21 <Halcyon> I'm heating the oven too
20:58:23 <Halcyon> Just got home
20:59:46 <Ysjoelfir> mornings Halcyon
20:59:57 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
21:02:28 * Halcyon licks T3sl4
21:03:08 <T3sl4> hey Halcyon
21:03:16 <Halcyon> What's wrong?
21:03:36 <T3sl4> what?
21:03:45 <Halcyon> You almost never just get a "hey" out of you
21:03:53 <T3sl4> i was just heying back for once :P
21:03:58 <Halcyon> :P
21:04:12 * T3sl4 splashes some snackly sunflower seeds at Halcyon
21:04:21 * Halcyon is flocked by birds
21:04:38 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NoP_VrnmCQ
21:05:03 * steve30 hates flatflex cables
21:05:22 <Halcyon> Hahaha
21:05:32 <Halcyon> Ahh classic Simpsons
21:06:33 * Ysjoelfir sends some slav guys to Halcyon
21:08:13 <Halcyon> :P
21:08:37 <Ysjoelfir> Semechki!
21:08:44 <Halcyon> Which is?
21:08:59 <Ysjoelfir> Sunflower seeds
21:09:06 <Halcyon> Ah
21:10:23 <Halcyon> I have these cornices in my house, and above my desk, when it's dark and my desk lamp is on, the light hits it a certain way that makes you unable to tell if it's concave or convex
21:11:04 <Halcyon> The more you know
21:11:17 <T3sl4> nice
21:11:24 <T3sl4> cor nice, you might say
21:11:33 <Halcyon> ;-)
21:12:20 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsPFdxMAG6o
21:14:29 * Halcyon nibbles on mixed olives
21:22:16 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, seems relevant https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/latq09/my_horrible_experience_with_freelancercom/
21:23:18 <Ysjoelfir> indeed. just wanted to share this with you. seems totally legit :P https://www.upwork.com/jobs/Voltage-regulator-design_~01fff7c5e77650ce8a/
21:24:22 <T3sl4> could well be copypasta
21:24:34 <Halcyon> Mmmm pasta
21:26:37 * T3sl4 threads a rotini into Halcyon's face
21:29:31 <Halcyon> Interesting?
21:29:47 * Halcyon gives T3sl4 a spaghetti wig
21:30:00 <T3sl4> \o/
21:30:13 * T3sl4 combs some red hair dye^H^H^Hsauce into it
21:30:18 <Halcyon> Damn I should have said murkin
21:30:24 <Halcyon> Oh well
21:30:35 <Halcyon> Sorry Merkin
21:30:41 <T3sl4> ur murkin me hungry
21:30:46 <Halcyon> Hah
21:31:03 <T3sl4> but also, looking up that term, hrm
21:31:10 <Halcyon> :P
21:31:28 <Halcyon> I have a craving for sushi and wasabi
21:32:26 <T3sl4> how ironic that you don't eat pussy
21:32:45 <T3sl4> erm, the fish part, it would be rather concerning if pussy tasted like wasabi
21:33:26 <Halcyon> I'd imagine fish would have a nicer flavour than, that
21:33:42 <Halcyon> Pure speculation though
21:33:52 <Halcyon> You are the only one who has had both
21:36:10 <T3sl4> oh, uh, yes... both... >_>
21:38:36 <Ysjoelfir> eh?
21:47:49 <steve30> Pasty was nice :)
21:52:49 <K> you patsy!
21:53:38 <T3sl4> you potsy
21:54:09 <K> i'll pants yoiu!
21:54:31 <T3sl4> good luck, i don't have any!
21:54:50 <Ysjoelfir> o.o
21:55:00 * Ysjoelfir hands T3sl4 a towel to cover himself
21:55:50 * T3sl4 wears it like a scarf
21:56:51 <Ysjoelfir> erm
21:56:54 <Ysjoelfir> close enough I guess?
22:00:40 <steve30> Well, after goodness knows how many years of doing electronics, it looks like I am finally starting to learn the resistor colour code.
22:01:53 <Ysjoelfir> right now when color codes become obsolete, yay :D
22:02:46 <T3sl4> it's easy. white means text, black means the enamel behind the text
22:02:55 <Ysjoelfir> exactly^^
22:03:20 <T3sl4> but sometimes the background is blue, and then you're on your own
22:06:41 <Ysjoelfir> it gets especially interesting if the background is blue and the damn thing has 8 terminals
22:08:19 <T3sl4> oh noes
22:17:51 <Halcyon> Pics T3sl4 :P
22:17:52 <K> then it is a spider.
22:18:07 <T3sl4> ^
22:18:43 <Halcyon> I'm off to bed guys
22:18:46 <Halcyon> Nighty night
22:19:00 <Ysjoelfir> g8 hulkion
22:19:04 * steve30 tucks Halcyon in
22:19:25 <Halcyon> Yeeee :)
22:19:39 <T3sl4> o/
22:43:53 <Ysjoelfir> its damn wet, rainign as hell and its cold in here. I am annoyed. who wants to go shopping for me?
22:47:46 <hsn> wasabu
22:48:01 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know if I know someone with that name to ask
22:48:34 <hsn> mr zukberg wants me to know ur friends Ysjoelfir
22:49:27 <Ysjoelfir> Is that so? I am not even registered at mr. Sugarmountains website (anymore).
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23:44:33 <K> ponneh
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