// #eevblog — 2021-02-09
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00:01:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: So, umm, yeah. Bitcoin. https://t.co/LNtDsI5Mms
00:03:08 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Cardano is massively bullish Wouldn't like to bet against it not getting back to previous highs like some others. https://t.co/0ZJHbVMOQo
00:06:49 <hsn> boring stuff for NeroTHz intresting for me https://www.pcbway.com/img/images/product/IT-180A%20%20data%20sheet.pdf
00:08:32 <Ysjoelfir> Working on my new Website. Can I have some comments? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yyJArxZS_QkM24ykqVJXo1GEaSO0E2yq/view?usp=sharing
00:10:08 <hsn> contakt
00:10:30 <Ysjoelfir> whoops. I had the text in german before and just wanted to change it quickly for you guys to understand xD
00:10:38 <Ysjoelfir> more thinking before typing :P
00:10:59 <hsn> i would probably remove revision history .. or "put less info" in it :P
00:11:10 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Ah, so that's the reason for the bump. Telsa bought $1.5BN in Bitcoin. And will begin accpeting Bitcoin for products soon. https://t.co/00lFiMMjfP https://t.co/dx2DV7EAEn
00:11:17 <hsn> but thats personal opinion as the whole comment thing is gonna be :P
00:15:54 <Ysjoelfir> sure, go on :)
00:18:32 <hsn> also the "please note" at the end ... i would remove it .. as it feels right now like between "blog and business"
00:18:50 <Ysjoelfir> thats a valid point indeed
00:19:03 <hsn> i would remove the I and put We ..
00:19:09 <hsn> as company maybe
00:19:41 <Ysjoelfir> the revision history was also mentioned by several people, I think i put it to impressum/contact
00:20:15 <Ysjoelfir> and regarding the we: thats a good point, especialls since I want to work with a friend of mine. she is way better in coding than I am^^
00:22:19 <hsn> the revision history shows that u r an engineer that cares quality documentation .. or thats the message i felt u want to send to customers .. it might be not bad idea but i just thought of reducing the points and introduce it in a way that deliberatly shows the point only not real rev for the website ..
00:23:57 <hsn> meaning .. it clearly tells the customer "this is not real revision history" its just me high quality guy :P
00:24:20 <Ysjoelfir> that was indeed the idea behind that^^
00:24:34 <hsn> and no scary words of "completly changed the website to new look" :P i think it scares
00:24:59 <hsn> diffently not engineers .. but others .. business wise :P
00:25:27 <NeroTHz> I personally don´t think you should put a revision history on your page
00:26:15 <hsn> one last thing and .. i shut up .. is ... hmm
00:28:23 <hsn> if this main page .. less paragraphs .. less talk but direct to point .. few sexy images
00:28:56 <NeroTHz> I think you aren allowed to forget that as consulting engineer, depending on what you do, you might not be advertising to engineers? depends ofcourse on your target applicastions and markets
00:29:11 <NeroTHz> but eg, you might be advertising to more artists/management/etc?
00:29:49 <hsn> and confidence of "i can do everything in the world" sort of how business ppl talk u know xD
00:31:32 <hsn> if its mixed customers (engineers / non engineers) i would boost advertise in main page and on contact page or somewhere else (2nd visit page) i would reduce my power .
00:31:50 <Ysjoelfir> hsn: I plan to add a few images to the main page, yes. I just didn't have any XD NeroTHz: thats a valid point. The Idea is to advertise generall electronics engineering services, from schematics to PCB design, consulting, BOM Optimization and whatnot. I am not that good in advertising, so... any input is valued here^^
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00:35:52 <NeroTHz> I would ensure you have a nice galery of previous projects
00:36:27 <Ysjoelfir> I will add those under references and will not publish it before I have some nice things to showcase there :)
00:38:04 <NeroTHz> tfw you have so much more bandwidth than expected that your AC simulation doesn´t cover enough
00:48:42 <hsn> Greetings,
00:48:43 <hsn> I'm Ikuo Yamamoto, I have a good business deal worth huge dollar currency to discuss with you. Please reply…
00:48:55 <hsn> i got this spam mail
00:49:27 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Ikuo Yamamoto, is it the lost box of Gold from John Barosa? If so I would be thrilled to receive it. Best regards, Merton
00:49:29 <hsn> reply: how much
00:50:09 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/z7EVUX.jpg
00:51:28 <hsn> so sweet ..
00:51:35 <hsn> he thinks im integrity
00:52:52 <Ysjoelfir> confidentiality on this medium? fascinating :D Never knew mails would be that secure
00:53:18 <Ysjoelfir> oh that guy is from belgium, NeroTHz should follow up on that
00:53:34 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, gmail has the ssl green lock ..
00:53:35 <hsn> :P
00:54:00 <hsn> the question is .. is he looking to do money landary .. or to steal me ..
00:55:17 <Ysjoelfir> the later
00:55:57 <hsn> so he just sent his second
00:56:01 <hsn> "copy paste email"
00:56:14 <hsn> ^ in the above photo
00:56:19 <hsn> and me reply: i don't understand .. What is the business deal you want to discuss ?
00:56:29 <hsn> so lets see where this go :P
00:56:48 <hsn> my goal is to make him write manually
00:56:52 <hsn> type
00:59:47 <Ysjoelfir> that can be a fun challenge
01:01:42 <hsn> im gonna play "dumb but not trusting him" and eventually ask him to send me 100$ as prove that he not scamming me :P
01:02:06 <Ysjoelfir> I'm curious if that'll work
01:02:32 <hsn> it wont for sure .. but i will steal somthing from him .. not money .. but time ..
01:02:33 <hsn> :P
01:02:49 <Ysjoelfir> indeed^^
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01:11:09 <NeroTHz> that might be a legit phone number
01:11:44 <Ampera> just passed my learner's permit test
01:12:03 <Ampera> 19/20 right, having steak and eggs at a local diner to, well I guess celebrate
01:12:17 <NeroTHz> oh that is great news
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01:42:23 <hsn> whats the difference between laminate and core pcb stack up wise ^
01:43:04 <NeroTHz> I don´t have my book here with me to check, but I think they are the same term for a similar thing
01:43:23 <hsn> ah
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02:18:43 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CK7GviTjCmH/?igshid=ph4y33py85zf
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02:19:04 <hsn> Lol
02:51:40 <electrohead> o/
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03:02:10 <arch> i bought a Corning PC-420 700W hotplate stirrer, for $175 in total
03:02:36 <arch> i remember using those in highschool. tough sons of bitches
03:09:22 <K> https://youtu.be/PGNiXGX2nLU?t=60
03:10:23 <T3sl4> going to cook up some meth?
03:10:25 <rust_collector> oh are we back to that again? mr head will have that spinning in his head all day
03:11:47 <T3sl4> K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u8teXR8VE4
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03:22:50 <NeroTHz> dafuck cadence
03:23:01 <NeroTHz> how does a simulation that took 2 minutes earlier today suddenly taking 30
03:25:06 <arch> nah, just so i can have a proper lab eventually. i'd like to do some chemistry experiments. it was my worst subject forever
03:25:59 <arch> maybe get myself some 0.1M solutions or whatever weak stuff off amazon, then learn titrations and all that fun stuff
03:26:14 <arch> ugh, glassware is so expensive tho
03:26:41 <arch> i'll do that after i get a spectrum analyzer this year. that's top priority
03:28:01 <NeroTHz> what is your spectrum analyzer budget?
03:30:59 <NeroTHz> oh great and now stopping the simulation crashed cadence
03:31:04 <NeroTHz> 10/10 would recomend
03:32:27 <arch> T3sl4, i made this on copperclad: https://imgur.com/a/KINEg2l --> copperclad: https://i.imgur.com/1KB2QcF.jpg
03:32:37 <arch> budget is $1600 or less for SA
03:33:08 <T3sl4> the only thing worse than unstable numerical codes is unstable programs
03:33:29 <T3sl4> chemistry is good stuff *headpats arch*
03:34:35 <arch> i got my eyes on this baby. it can also be hacked apparently to get all the features unlocked for free. it's kinda long process, but it is possible: https://www.amazon.com/Siglent-SSA3021X-TG-Spectrum-9KHz-1GHz-Generator/dp/B01LFZWYFW
03:36:08 <NeroTHz> hmm you need it to be new? for 1.6k you can start to see about some second hand gear too
03:36:12 <NeroTHz> 1 GHz is DC
03:36:22 <NeroTHz> oh, 2.1 GHz. Well, still DC
03:36:49 <arch> im not doing anything crazy...i honestly really tinker too much with SMPS is all. i don't expect to get into radio freq stuff
03:37:22 <NeroTHz> I see
03:37:23 <rust_collector> a radio smps is an idea
03:37:31 <NeroTHz> radio SMPS?
03:37:39 <NeroTHz> isn that just a Class E amplifier
03:37:45 <rust_collector> a power supply you can listen to
03:38:44 <NeroTHz> So a class D amplifier
03:40:24 <T3sl4> it's like that USB-VGA adapter that's just a DAC you stream graphics to, so someone figured out you can stream radio to it too
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03:48:01 <K> ponneh
03:51:56 <T3sl4> punny
03:55:11 <hsn> There is enough banana strawberry milkshake for everyone
03:55:42 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/jrKvfu4e9LsgAzsV7
03:55:45 <arch> so what i found yesterday when tinkering with that text fixture is, when i vary the feedback voltage from 2.48 to around 2.52V, there's a split second where it goes from 0% duty cycle to 100%. if i reeealy slowly twist the feedback pot, i can adjust the duty cycle, but it's very twitchy
03:56:18 <hsn> Ew 40mV
03:56:25 <Kuschelpony> Hello Hello
03:56:30 <arch> vs, if i use the slope comp current setting knob, it's a much smoother transition
03:56:38 <hsn> Hello pony
03:58:29 <arch> which, i guess makes sense because the feedback is going to an opamp, and theres a 100k resistor that seems to be putting some hysteresis(?)
03:58:46 <arch> 100k resistor between comp pin and feedback
03:59:45 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/eNRzZoG.png
04:01:06 <Kuschelpony> arch, thats not hysteresis, but the opposite: its negative feedback
04:01:29 <arch> oo, ty
04:02:13 <Kuschelpony> so you have basically an (inverting) amplifiere that amplifies the difference between the internal reference voiltage, and the external voltage from the poti by some 100 times, so you have something 40mV between zero and max duty cycle
04:02:26 <arch> i'll hook up 3 probes: one to slope comp, one to current sense, and one to the gate drive output, and see how things change
04:02:39 <hsn> I lost connection can u tell what just happened after the imgur link
04:02:56 <arch> tentacle hentai. you don't wanna see that.
04:03:11 <hsn> Ah ok .. why the ty then
04:03:24 <arch> he gave me some better research materials
04:03:34 <hsn> For the hentai
04:03:35 <hsn> ?
04:03:43 <arch> jk. he just explained how the opamp is operating with negative feedback
04:03:51 <arch> <Kuschelpony> arch, thats not hysteresis, but the opposite: its negative feedback
04:04:00 <hsn> Thx
04:04:22 <Kuschelpony> so think that way:
04:04:33 <Kuschelpony> the positive input of the opamp is held to a reference voltage
04:04:49 <Kuschelpony> the output swings as far as needed to balance the negative input to the same voltage
04:05:11 <Kuschelpony> so when the resistance from the poti is 100 times smaller than the feedback resistance then the poti voltage gets 100 times amplified
04:05:35 <arch> aha, yep. page 11: https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/uc3843.pdf
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04:06:47 <Ampera> hi ThunderSqueak how are you doing
04:07:17 <arch> thanks again for the explanation Kuschelpony
04:07:22 <Kuschelpony> sure!
04:07:29 <Kuschelpony> im happy i f i can any time help someone
04:07:43 <ThunderSqueak> hi, doing good
04:08:01 <Ampera> that's good
04:09:29 <hsn> I need to .. learn this compensation stuff of op amp
04:09:48 <arch> same here
04:09:51 * arch hugs hsn
04:09:59 <Kuschelpony> to be honest, i never "learned" this
04:10:16 * hsn hugs back with tears
04:10:20 <Kuschelpony> the concept of a PI feedback was always natural to me
04:10:39 <arch> experience from DIY experiments is worth a LOT more than shitty as fuck simulations in college. wasting $1500+ heh
04:10:51 <hsn> The only pi i know is 3.11
04:10:59 * arch strangles hsn
04:11:11 <arch> 3.141592564 is as far as i can remember
04:11:20 <arch> sorry 3.141592654*
04:11:20 <K> 3.11 - pi for workgroups
04:11:40 <Kuschelpony> i meant Proportional&Integral not the number PI
04:11:58 * arch watches the joke fly right over Kuschelpony and escape velocity
04:12:13 <Kuschelpony> well and i never used a simulator
04:12:54 <hsn> I was referring to this guy https://www.instagram.com/p/CKtkfQTDpIx/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
04:13:12 <Kuschelpony> sorry, im not the type who gets jokes or movie references
04:13:30 <ThunderSqueak> Got a new drive for this laptop, looking forward to installing it later
04:13:35 <hsn> And i though u mean pi networks .. as in rf circuits
04:13:39 <arch> is it a SSD
04:13:54 <hsn> Thought
04:13:58 <ThunderSqueak> only thing that has ever bugged me about this laptop is it came with 256GB ssd, upgrading to a tbssd
04:14:02 <ThunderSqueak> only thing that has ever bugged me about this laptop is it came with 256GB ssd, upgrading to a tb ssd
04:14:14 <ThunderSqueak> arch, in this day and age, why wouldn't it be?
04:14:22 <arch> use Clonezilla and bam, easy peasy
04:15:01 <arch> i have 3 HDDs in my Thinkpad T420. one mSATA, and two 1TB HDDs--one of them inside the HDD tray, anohter in the CDROM drive tray ($5 converter off ebay)
04:15:49 <arch> can't stand the fugly think laptops these days. you breathe on them the wrong way and they're dead meat. no way to upgrade ram, etc etc
04:16:01 <hsn> https://youtu.be/PFLF57vDYcQ
04:17:07 <Ampera> My laptop has a 512GB SSD, and I've thought about upgrading it, but I probably wouldn't even use it all even if it was only a 128GB drive
04:17:12 <Ampera> I just don't use my laptop for very much
04:46:36 <electrohead> speaking of, I want to get a SSD for my main laptop
04:46:53 <electrohead> and preferably one for my sony vaio, which I received for free and fixed up
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04:52:03 <coppice> Sony Vaios suck big time
04:52:57 <electrohead> why so?
04:54:14 <coppice> Lovely machines when new. The then failed a lot, and Sony charged an arm and a leg to fix them... even when the problem was blatantly their fault
04:55:04 <electrohead> what problem, though?
04:55:09 <electrohead> what's known to fail, rather?
04:55:13 <coppice> Of all the computers I've used the one with my overall lowest level of satisfaction have been Vaios.
04:56:15 <electrohead> nevermind, then
04:56:37 <coppice> Batteries dying after 6 months, not being covered by warranty, and $500 to replace. A huge problem they have with poor soldering causing failures just outside warranty that they wouldn't own up and fix for free, and charged a fortune to repair. Things like that
04:56:52 <electrohead> ahh
04:57:08 <electrohead> well, I repair all of my own computers and equipment, so, I don't think I'll have to worry :P
04:57:18 <coppice> a $500 replacement battery came with 7 days warranty
04:57:24 <electrohead> heh
04:57:59 <coppice> yeah, I wish there were a hell for those people to burn in
04:58:41 <coppice> The must have trained the CS people well, to keep a straight face while saying "warranty? Its a battery, sir"
04:59:53 <coppice> Many of the Vaios did have lovely designs, though
05:00:45 <coppice> Oh yeah, magnesium shells poorly coated, that corrode badly with sweat, and the machine like a sheet of sandpaper
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05:39:18 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/habo8ckpsk861.jpg
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05:40:56 <coppice> some sandwich maker got in an awful pickle
05:44:54 <MrMobodies> joke: what, did you put pickle in there?
05:45:18 <MrMobodies> with your sandwiches
05:45:22 <Halcyon> I like pickles
05:45:41 <MrMobodies> nice with a bit of cheese with biscuits
05:46:10 <Halcyon> I like those little pickled onions too
05:46:20 <MrMobodies> oooh lovelly
05:46:26 <MrMobodies> the ones in the bottles
05:46:33 <MrMobodies> I just gulp the whole thing down
05:46:50 <MrMobodies> and when sliced with rollmop herrings
05:47:44 <MrMobodies> just before I went to bed
05:47:46 <Halcyon> Nah you can keep those to yourself
05:47:54 <MrMobodies> oh well there is
05:48:07 <MrMobodies> man called Eric but he isn't edible
05:48:13 <MrMobodies> he's a British poltician
05:48:24 <MrMobodies> Eric Pickles and he tends to be plumpy too
05:48:36 <MrMobodies> but not edible
05:48:40 <coppice> he'd feed a large town
05:49:27 <MrMobodies> he'd keep animal farm going for a while
05:49:58 <MrMobodies> yesterday I discovered that Octeon liquidio driver was not for FreeBSD
05:50:02 <MrMobodies> It was for Linux 4.1
05:50:18 * Halcyon moans
05:50:22 <Halcyon> I don't want to go to work
05:50:26 <MrMobodies> oh
05:50:32 <MrMobodies> anyway I found something that I like
05:50:49 <MrMobodies> a distro image of Linux kernel 4.1 by Oracle
05:50:55 <MrMobodies> and it comes with the older style Gnome 2
05:51:34 <MrMobodies> I experienced no frustration in getting it the way I want
05:52:00 <MrMobodies> http://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-isos.html
05:52:24 <MrMobodies> so hopefully I'll try and see how that goes with the driver
05:53:02 <MrMobodies> I didn't think they maintained Gnome 2 anymore
05:55:18 <MrMobodies> and also it seems they renamed a few things like Sympatics packager to "Add/Remove programs
05:56:12 <MrMobodies> and it puts a pictures of ducks in certian places
06:03:47 <MrMobodies> I wish I could and go do some work somewhere than being stuck but
06:03:59 <MrMobodies> I have found things to do
06:04:24 <MrMobodies> I was given a load of old toot from someone down the local pub and it is only now I am starting to appreciate it
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08:05:56 <MrMobodies> I have just noticed something
08:07:05 <MrMobodies> "General chat" has been renamed to "General Technical Chat" https://web.archive.org/web/20210110021244/https://www.eevblog.com/forum/
08:07:19 <MrMobodies> I thought I suffering from memory loss at first
08:07:38 <Ysjoelfir> you are just not paying attention
08:07:58 <MrMobodies> I wonder why was it renamed now and not at the beginning.
08:09:11 <MrMobodies> seems pretty technical in there but maybe some turned it non technical
08:09:48 <Ysjoelfir> you yhould read the news section from time to time
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08:21:53 <u0_a281> hell0 can you tell me how to repair mine dishwasher machine please?
08:24:16 <u0_a281> why you hate me so much? is it only because i told you i do not like the blue on your digital multi meter?
08:24:48 <Ysjoelfir> Hi rusty
08:24:56 <u0_a281> hi Ysjoelfir
08:25:43 <u0_a281> how is the web-dev world today?
08:26:45 <Ysjoelfir> its... progressing. ^^ I am finished with a sketch of the design.
08:28:55 <u0_a281> qvery progressive
08:29:26 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
08:29:32 <Ysjoelfir> wanna see?
08:29:48 <u0_a281> no, not really.
08:29:53 <Ysjoelfir> ok
08:30:22 <u0_a281> i just can not see anything on the phone anyway.
08:30:42 <Ysjoelfir> I can immagine, thats why I asked :P on the Pc I would have just linked it
08:31:46 <u0_a281> pee see is bestest
08:35:03 <u0_a281> 55" phone would be big
08:35:17 <T3sl4> you know what they say about saltwater legumes
08:35:18 <T3sl4> pea sea
08:35:37 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^ and yes, I agree
08:36:07 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, did you see the design earlier this day? I would be interested in your oppinion as well.
08:36:22 <u0_a281> earlier today, i was wondering if you could water tomato plants with sea water...
08:36:25 <T3sl4> oooh, a Ysjoeldesign
08:36:51 <Ysjoelfir> You mean to grow preserved tomatoes? Sounds usefull, try it!
08:36:58 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, indeed.
08:37:25 <u0_a281> i like tomatoes with salt and mayo.
08:38:20 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: looks straightforward
08:38:41 <u0_a281> i know that they do not like being washed with dish soap. they turn blue, and die slowly
08:39:05 <Ysjoelfir> blue tomatoes, nice! they'll sell for lots of money!
08:39:11 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, thanks. do you like it?
08:39:59 <T3sl4> kinda unsure about the opening with the pop philosophy sort of angle, i guess
08:40:35 <MrMobodies> I found it. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/news/new-off-topic-hobbies-section/ but somehow I keep on forgetting about that it's there.
08:40:43 <MrMobodies> oh window stuck
08:40:55 <Ysjoelfir> you mean the text? I'm not sure if I'll keep it that way, I just copied the one from my old page to have kind of a example text.
08:41:51 <T3sl4> ah, okay
08:42:04 <T3sl4> yeah, layout looks easy to navigate
08:42:55 <u0_a281> horsehorsehorsehorsehorsehorsehorsehorsehorse
08:43:09 <Ysjoelfir> that was the intention.
08:43:12 <u0_a281> yes, copying text makes sense
08:43:17 <Ysjoelfir> erm.... chickenchickenchickenduck?
08:43:54 <u0_a281> whatever flavor you like dear
08:45:53 <u0_a281> heh, i am loaded... this is too early
08:45:58 <u0_a281> å
08:46:18 * T3sl4 puts u0_a281 in the drunk tank
08:47:35 <u0_a281> whoaaa have enjoys
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08:49:33 <MrMobodies> tomorrow I am thinking preparing the ceiling for the wiring trays
08:50:51 <MrMobodies> I am going paint some pine bits of wood, glue them to the ceiling and screw them and the mount the brackets
08:51:46 <MrMobodies> I am bit concerned if there are cables there and the live detector just seems to pick everything up
09:23:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The Youtube hashtag system has changed. It now picks up the hash in my episode number and ignores the hashtags in my description. Someone at @TeamYouTube has been fiddling with the code again. https://t.co/KXQDUXEPcr
09:41:37 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/XzzEdwpDEUH2cT7G9
10:02:35 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1373 - DIY PCB Photograhy LED Light Box - Part 2 https://t.co/lAGWELkJPU
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11:23:05 <rust_collector> well, does anything make you think there would be any cables there?
11:27:38 <MrMobodies> at the moment they are going across the ground
11:28:21 <MrMobodies> and to run them to where I want they have to go all the way round behind the dekes
11:28:30 <rust_collector> you are worried there might be cables there. but is there any reason for there to be any cables there?
11:28:36 <MrMobodies> and that takes too much of cable
11:29:13 <MrMobodies> electric cables for the lights I mean in the ceiling
11:29:26 <MrMobodies> I have to find out if there are any in the way
11:29:30 <rust_collector> yes.
11:30:24 <MrMobodies> I might just knock a hole in some places
11:30:31 <MrMobodies> it will be covered over the wood anyway
11:30:35 <rust_collector> make an imaginary line between the light and the switch, is that anywhere near where you want your screws?
11:38:57 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/cBSjHdw
11:39:44 <MrMobodies> I have some planks of wood I think that are 14cm by 1.8m
11:40:15 <MrMobodies> I might know some holes to find out where the cables maybe
11:40:48 <MrMobodies> then I can try and get then out of the way and put the wood over it
11:41:01 <MrMobodies> I going to cut the wood up
11:41:14 <MrMobodies> and glue them with the glue gun first
11:41:30 <MrMobodies> then get some plaster screws
11:41:35 <MrMobodies> to make it easy for me
11:41:44 <MrMobodies> and to help with the weight
11:43:43 <MrMobodies> I am not sure about that imaginary line
11:43:53 <MrMobodies> there is a smoke detector there
11:44:08 <MrMobodies> wiring for upstairs and three light fittings
11:44:14 <MrMobodies> so they could be anywhere
11:44:41 <MrMobodies> anyway that hole will have to be made above the cabinet
11:44:58 <rust_collector> and there is no way to get your head up there, to have a look?
11:45:00 <MrMobodies> with a cover for when I want to run network cable upstairs inthe future
11:45:05 <MrMobodies> nope
11:45:14 <MrMobodies> they got they crappy plaster boards up there
11:45:27 <rust_collector> climb up on the roof, and cut a nice window in there
11:45:32 <MrMobodies> toungue and groove
11:45:42 <MrMobodies> nonono it is a house
11:45:59 <rust_collector> yes, houses can have windows,
11:46:05 <rust_collector> not only computers
11:46:31 <MrMobodies> I would have to take up floorboards
11:46:40 <MrMobodies> and they are toungue and groove
11:47:17 <rust_collector> you have floorboards on your roof?
11:47:25 <MrMobodies> the people who had this extension built put the tounge and groove down then put the stud walls up
11:47:26 <rust_collector> I don't understand english houses
11:47:38 <MrMobodies> it has got an upstairs
11:51:15 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/49JNtcV.jpg
11:51:45 <rust_collector> WHOOA! you have all the sun
11:52:14 <MrMobodies> if it had the older style floorboard logs and brick wall then I can just lift them up and nail them back down
11:52:22 <MrMobodies> like the rest of the house
11:52:35 <rust_collector> so, you are on the ground floor?
11:53:37 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/MPeJcfpg.jpg
11:53:39 <MrMobodies> yes
11:53:52 <MrMobodies> just on the right side is the workshop
11:54:10 <rust_collector> ok. that looks pretty neat
11:54:42 <MrMobodies> I live with parents
11:54:58 <MrMobodies> I cannot afford to move anywhere but that's why we moved to get more space
11:55:03 <rust_collector> well, that probably helps keeping things neat
11:55:09 <MrMobodies> and it's doing us well
11:55:32 <MrMobodies> they did have to coniffer chop about half of the size
11:55:37 <MrMobodies> to get more light
11:55:52 <MrMobodies> unfortunately I can see the neighbours houses
11:56:07 <MrMobodies> so I was a bit sad the privacy has gone
11:56:31 <MrMobodies> but in the fron tthere the conifers are just as tall but they belong the people living there
11:56:43 <MrMobodies> but the sun manages to get through well
12:00:32 <rust_collector> so, I am heating up some asparagus soup. I don't really remember what that tastes like
12:05:34 <MrMobodies> I like green soup with that in there
12:24:29 <rust_collector> I ran it thru a strainer, it is pretty nice
12:25:06 <MrMobodies> lovelly green soup, with some toast or bread
12:25:21 <MrMobodies> has it got onions in it too?
12:26:05 <rust_collector> eeh, <i am not sure. I think it is something out of a bag. there might be a tiny bit of onion, but I don't really know
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12:36:56 <MrMobodies> yesterday the living room fire stopped working
12:37:20 <MrMobodies> error codes on the remote shows the valves needs a cleaning a service
12:37:28 <MrMobodies> and it is now even a year old
12:37:50 <MrMobodies> it is snowing right now and they built that thing like that
12:38:25 <MrMobodies> in my previous house before I moved there in 1994 there two fires,
12:38:39 <MrMobodies> the one in the front room was called a Robinsons Willy from the 1970's
12:39:03 <MrMobodies> it was inespected every year and never ever failed to start.
12:39:30 <MrMobodies> always had a blue flame compared to the new one fitted in the other room in 1996
12:40:31 <MrMobodies> I wish I could have brought that Robinson Willy along but we were told years ago during checkup it needing replacing because it didn't comply with any standards... bullsh*t
12:51:45 <MrMobodies> it is snowing still and about -1 c
12:52:24 <rust_collector> well, with a bit of luck, it might get a bit colder
12:53:32 <rust_collector> it is pretty mild here, now, just -6.3 I really like it around there, not really cold, but cold enough to be nice and dry
12:54:57 <MrMobodies> there is an airlock in the central heating
12:55:00 <MrMobodies> sometime it comes on good
12:55:12 <MrMobodies> other times the radiators just go warm
12:55:25 <MrMobodies> and trying to get someone out we find they all booked up
12:55:32 <MrMobodies> and there is covid
12:56:15 <rust_collector> an air lock should be fixable, no?
12:58:54 <MrMobodies> I tried to bleed the radiators out
12:58:57 <MrMobodies> when cold
12:59:00 <MrMobodies> but nothing
12:59:17 <MrMobodies> I think the airlock is somewhere else needs a good emptying
12:59:36 <MrMobodies> but this piece of crap turned out what I feared
12:59:37 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/0fZjzP9
12:59:40 <rust_collector> hmm, i remember I saw a radiator vent valve, that was always open, when there was air in the system, I wonder if it was just a float. I do not think I would trust it very much, but
13:00:00 <MrMobodies> it is a pressuried system
13:00:09 <rust_collector> yes
13:00:19 <MrMobodies> what I may do is go in the attic and see if there is a meter for the pressure bar
13:00:38 <MrMobodies> that will be when I wake up later
13:01:31 <rust_collector> i am watching some danish guys who drove to china, in an old peugeot. that seems like a great idea
13:02:39 <MrMobodies> oh
13:02:51 <MrMobodies> I found the fire
13:02:52 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/ooFUXDg
13:02:59 <MrMobodies> one of the best fires I ever had
13:03:05 <MrMobodies> never ever failed to start
13:03:13 <MrMobodies> no parts ever replaced since 1994
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13:03:28 <MrMobodies> it came with the previous house and worked right up until gas leak
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13:03:53 <MrMobodies> where we had get rid of the both fires, too much cost to dig the ground to run new gas pipes
13:04:14 <MrMobodies> there was one next door when the flint kept on breaking every year and other parts
13:04:34 <MrMobodies> isn't it strange that the things that comply with "standards" break down so easily.
13:05:02 <MrMobodies> and old stuff manages to work safely without stopping
13:05:03 <rust_collector> there is a reason why they make these standards
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13:05:34 <MrMobodies> well that Robinsons Willy did have safety features in there according to our old plumber friend
13:05:38 <rust_collector> the old stuff just had to work. the new stuff has to be replaced, so you keep the economy going
13:05:39 <MrMobodies> until he retired
13:06:01 <MrMobodies> ahh nothing to do with me, the house getting cold or how I may suffer
13:06:11 <MrMobodies> it is about the production line flowing
13:06:21 <MrMobodies> starting to make sense to me
13:07:02 <MrMobodies> at the expense of putting other people's wellbeing at risk.
13:07:31 <MrMobodies> I understand for other things but for the most basic essential
13:08:33 <rust_collector> well, you do not need other things, so you end up buying them when they are cheap. heating is sort of important for most people, so you just pay to get it fixed, when it gets cold
13:08:43 <rust_collector> no questions or anything, just fix it
13:09:09 <MrMobodies> but that fire int he back room and this one was very expensive
13:09:10 <T3sl4> steve30: Halcyon: https://imgur.com/gallery/QkaZHSE
13:09:19 <MrMobodies> and to fix them the parts cost a lot too
13:09:25 <MrMobodies> oh well
13:09:25 <rust_collector> yep
13:10:05 <rust_collector> I think I will keep my wood burners for... a long time
13:10:45 <MrMobodies> if I find another Robinson Willy on ebay or somewhere I am going to store until the day that fire takes the pee and get someone to bodge it's place.... joke
13:10:54 <MrMobodies> ooh we were going to have a wood burner
13:10:59 <MrMobodies> that was what was there before
13:11:12 <MrMobodies> but the chimney lining was fitted wrongly
13:11:21 <MrMobodies> it had a pump which the previous occupants removed
13:11:41 <rust_collector> a fan?
13:11:45 <MrMobodies> in the attic
13:11:53 <MrMobodies> the controls are still there for it and the wiring
13:12:23 <MrMobodies> I think they put that there when they realized the lining parts restricted the space
13:12:25 <rust_collector> oh, so still the radiators, just wood, ok
13:12:28 <MrMobodies> it was put in back to front
13:13:11 <MrMobodies> that one looks like a log burner but is it just gas
13:14:17 <MrMobodies> but 23 years for a fireplace that never failed to start is really good... that is something i miss.
13:14:38 <MrMobodies> something I won't find noawadays
13:15:34 <MrMobodies> well I do have a few things, a Sebo Airbelt Volcano hoover from 2005 and I'm still using it
13:15:57 <MrMobodies> picks up everything in one go
13:18:00 <rust_collector> our newest vacuum cleaner is so weird. it is small and very quiet, so I always wonder if it is full or running at half speed. but no, it is just like that. the older one is really noisy and sounds like a small jet engine.
13:19:25 <MrMobodies> does it pick up well?
13:20:00 <MrMobodies> the airbelt is very noisy but even the ones that i had before that were just as noiser
13:20:34 <rust_collector> it works pretty good. but the pipe and hose is on the smaller side, so it does not like sucking up twigs and kittens.
13:21:32 <MrMobodies> so that's the suctions is just as good is when the pipe is smaller
13:22:24 <MrMobodies> my mum got something similar a battery one that works well for the carpets because she wanted a lightweight one
13:22:32 <rust_collector> for small dust and lint and such, it works great.
13:22:32 <MrMobodies> the power switch broke though
13:23:17 <MrMobodies> I think the battery ones have gotten better over the years for things like that
13:23:21 <coppice> rust_collector: some vacuum cleaner designers are just pissed off that they didn't get to work for Rolls Royce or Pratt and Whitney
13:23:57 <rust_collector> hmm, I have a tiny vacuum cleaner out in the garage, it looks like a prank sized computer mouse, lol
13:24:01 <MrMobodies> the hoover before that Sebo were a disaster, one said "Hoover 'pets' quiet" but that was noisy and didn't pick anything up
13:24:18 <rust_collector> coppice, yes, I think you are correct about that
13:24:20 <MrMobodies> oh does it pick up stuff or just a mouse
13:24:49 <rust_collector> it is a pickuper thing, but it is just really small
13:25:27 <MrMobodies> it picking up things is something I like and given it's size I take expection too
13:25:47 <MrMobodies> but the ones that don't do anything but make noise makes me angry
13:26:11 <rust_collector> but no one can hear you complain, as long as it is on, so that is ok
13:26:33 <MrMobodies> well I developed a new strategy for copying back then
13:26:50 <MrMobodies> don't bother cleaning until researching on something that is going to work
13:27:15 <MrMobodies> and that is when I chose that Sebo
13:27:26 <MrMobodies> cleaning up started to become a pleasure
13:27:36 <MrMobodies> the electric powerhead pulls you along
13:28:00 <rust_collector> I am married, and she has dogs, so I don't bother.
13:28:44 <MrMobodies> oh your wife makes the dogs clean up?
13:28:57 <MrMobodies> sounds very well trained
13:29:07 <rust_collector> but a hot rod vacuum cleaner would be interesting.... a nice 3 phase... and.... uhm, yees
13:29:55 <rust_collector> I just charge them up, so they are very static, and pick up everything
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13:44:31 <MrMobodies> just noticed: <coppice> rust_collector: some vacuum cleaner designers are just pissed off that they didn't get to work for Rolls Royce or Pratt and Whitney
13:45:12 <MrMobodies> I wonder if that is why they use to make quite a few them terrible for a while.
13:45:17 <rust_collector> hmm, we got an electric truck at work. it is in the news and all. very nice, but so far, I think it has only been driven around the yard, and has had a load of pictures taken.
13:45:39 <MrMobodies> from like the mid 1990's to until battery ones took off.
13:45:57 <rust_collector> it is always extremely clean, and sitting in the same spot
13:46:05 <MrMobodies> ooops sorry wrong comment
13:46:14 <MrMobodies> oh oh window got stuck again
13:47:00 <MrMobodies> your electric truck is reliable
13:47:12 <rust_collector> 150kw dc charging... is that a lot? i dunno?
13:47:25 <MrMobodies> oh an electric one
13:47:44 <rust_collector> MrMobodies, it seems to be reliably parked up and ready to be taken pictures of
13:47:49 <MrMobodies> I remembered working at a warehouse where they had electric fork lifters
13:47:58 <MrMobodies> oh
13:47:59 <coppice> rust_collector: there have been quite a few electric delivery vans going under the radar for a few years
13:48:20 <MrMobodies> but this fork lifter cost the warehouse a lot of money
13:48:23 <MrMobodies> to charge it
13:48:26 <rust_collector> yes, we have a lot of those. this is the first proper truck we got. 26 ton
13:49:00 <coppice> oh, that's a serious truck
13:49:07 <MrMobodies> does impact on your electric bills to charge them?
13:49:24 <rust_collector> MrMobodies, up here, electricity is cheap, and you would not want 40 diesel forklifts running around indoors
13:49:36 <rust_collector> so it is not really a question
13:49:51 <MrMobodies> electric is expensive in the UK
13:49:52 <rust_collector> I am sure it does cost a bit, but otoh, they are very reliable
13:50:15 <MrMobodies> My dad complain this morning that weused about £187 worth of electric this month
13:50:35 <MrMobodies> I have been all my stuff on to keep warm
13:50:44 <rust_collector> coppice, it is a man tgm. or "e"tgm. 360 electric horses, and 3100nm
13:50:52 <MrMobodies> but when this lockdown is over it'll e time to look for solar panels
13:51:55 <rust_collector> i have delivered tons of solar stuff this year. it is like it is peoples new hobby
13:52:06 <coppice> rust_collector: In China they have thousands of large electric buses, so I guess its time for large trucks to join them
13:52:30 <rust_collector> most buses in the city here are chinese and electric
13:53:01 <MrMobodies> I had an agreement with the other house
13:53:04 <MrMobodies> with the grid
13:53:36 <rust_collector> having a disagreement with the grid is probably not a good idea
13:53:37 <MrMobodies> exporting at 21.9p per kw unit
13:53:48 <MrMobodies> contract untik 2035
13:54:01 <MrMobodies> and we paying 15p per killowat unit
13:54:09 <MrMobodies> making about 7p out of the grid
13:54:28 <MrMobodies> but then when the conversvatives came in they slashed it for new installations
13:54:51 <MrMobodies> I think wanted to do it for exisiting installations too but the courts wouldn't allow them to do it.
13:56:35 <rust_collector> coppice, it says it can carry 11 tonnes, so it weighs about 3.5 to 4 tonnes more than a regular diesel one. i guess that is ok
13:57:20 <rust_collector> MrMobodies, I think I would split the house in 2, and use solar for my own stuff, then use the grid for the fridge
13:57:33 <coppice> rust_collector: tonnes of batteries must be pricey
13:57:56 <rust_collector> i am sure it is.
13:58:57 <MrMobodies> well seeing how they don't pay I have another idea
13:59:02 <MrMobodies> I don't know if it is legal
13:59:13 <MrMobodies> get the grid to install me a meter for my workshop
13:59:23 <coppice> rust_collector: the buses don't have as much battery as you might expect. the seem to recover a lot energy with their stop start patterns of use.
13:59:43 <MrMobodies> signup for that rip off 24/7 economy tarrif
14:00:09 <MrMobodies> and wire it up to charge the batteries at night at the low tarrif
14:00:30 <MrMobodies> in the day switch it over to the over to the other batteries
14:00:36 <MrMobodies> to export back to the grid
14:00:55 <MrMobodies> if it is going to make a profit
14:00:59 <rust_collector> i do not think they can complain about what you use your power for. but I am sure they can stop you from exporting to the grid
14:01:00 <MrMobodies> how does that sound?
14:01:16 <MrMobodies> if I am on a deal with the grid
14:01:33 <MrMobodies> how are they going to know I took the power from the 24/7 supply
14:01:42 <rust_collector> in germany, you can not export to grid at all, if I got it right. well, you can, but you would do it for free, iIrc
14:01:58 <MrMobodies> through batteries to export back
14:02:00 <MrMobodies> oh
14:02:23 <MrMobodies> I think they had a 4kwh limit for my inverter when it was installed
14:02:33 <MrMobodies> that was in 2012
14:02:35 <rust_collector> so, I guess it depends on who runs your grid
14:03:50 <MrMobodies> if they bring that export tariff back
14:04:07 <rust_collector> coppice, I do remember volvo testing a flywheel powered bus, in gothenburg, iIrc. that also did work pretty well. they used the power from the tram line, to spin up the flywheel, then drive around a bit, then find a tram line, and spin it up again...
14:04:22 <MrMobodies> oh that's nice
14:04:50 <coppice> rust_collector: Volvo have made buses for decades with an air compression based kinetic energy recovery system
14:05:17 <rust_collector> I think that was a 7 ton flywheel, and i am pretty sure it mush have been butt-clenching to test
14:05:35 <MrMobodies> that sounds heavy
14:05:36 <rust_collector> but I like the idea
14:05:47 <MrMobodies> I see the gravity helps it
14:06:17 <rust_collector> yes, it is a bit of weight, when you start to spin it at some good speed
14:06:21 <coppice> I think they have used flywheel powered trams in Switzerland since the early 20th century
14:06:55 <rust_collector> ok, that is interesting
14:07:22 <MrMobodies> I remembered cars built in about 1900's had a wheel that spun around
14:07:51 <MrMobodies> and they seem very large on the side
14:09:01 <rust_collector> hmm, like a traction engine?
14:09:08 <rust_collector> or a regular car?
14:09:37 <MrMobodies> actually I was thinking about trucks that the farmers used
14:09:44 <MrMobodies> and they were wooden
14:11:21 <MrMobodies> http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/pictures/2004/hollowell/IM012614.jpg
14:11:55 <rust_collector> right. steam engines did have large flywheels, yes
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14:14:21 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVxByLO_6cA
14:16:45 <MrMobodies> the red things look to me like sparks coming out of the chimney when they fall to the ground
14:16:57 <rust_collector> yep
14:18:00 <rust_collector> how about this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU_fshxE3Gk
14:21:01 <MrMobodies> the flywheel looks smaller and noiser
14:21:35 <rust_collector> but it is doing a lot of work
14:22:00 <MrMobodies> must be a lot weight it is pulling with all those people on it
14:23:05 <rust_collector> the people is not much to talk about there. the plows going into the ground takes a bit of power to move
14:23:44 <MrMobodies> plowing the field
14:24:01 <MrMobodies> it looks really nice including the mechanics
14:24:09 <rust_collector> i think it is a bit odd that they used a single cylinder for that, but it seems to do ok
14:26:44 <MrMobodies> but not seat where they have stand and bend down for the coal
14:28:14 <rust_collector> meh, it was a job
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16:02:12 <steve30> hi
16:02:33 <rust_collector> hi mr steve
16:12:41 <rust_collector> I just watched a video of this guy, who wrote a script, to find the email for all the embassies, to ask for a flag. which was fine, and he got a lot of flags. but it seems lots of people also sent emails asking for flags, so he had to make a video " Why I am sorry to every country"
16:33:15 <steve30> One to please Halcyon: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/post-a-picture-of-a-cat!/?action=dlattach;attach=1169928;image
16:33:20 <hsn> hola
16:34:18 <hsn> whats with eevblog forum the attached thumbnail images arent expandable
16:36:28 <steve30> they should be expandable
16:53:47 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
17:05:13 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
17:12:29 * Ampera licks Halcyon's throat
17:23:52 <Halcyon> Interesting
17:27:23 <steve30> i need to go out for shopping today
17:27:29 <hsn> yeah that got expanded after like 5 sec idk why ..
17:27:49 <hsn> maybe network insitancy .
17:32:35 <MrMobodies> Hello, I was all excited about Oracle Linux with Gnome 2 that they were maintaining. It turned out that it just came with the installer.
17:32:52 <MrMobodies> I installed their latest one to find it is the usual piece of garbage Gnome3
17:33:35 <Ampera> It'd be a very strange choice, even for Oracle, to decide to fork Gnome 2 for their own maintenance when MATE already exists
17:33:37 <MrMobodies> I only chose that version to work with the Cavium network drivers
17:36:19 <MrMobodies> https://web.archive.org/web/20200401060816/http://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-isos.html
17:37:03 <MrMobodies> I picked the 6.8 to match the drivers
17:37:08 <MrMobodies> that i found
17:37:09 <MrMobodies> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.7/source/drivers/net/ethernet/cavium
17:37:20 <Ampera> what's the point of using the wayback machine for a site that's still up
17:37:23 <Ampera> and seemingly unchanged
17:37:39 <MrMobodies> ohh sorry wrong like I was checking back then to see if there was anything older
17:37:47 <MrMobodies> but it turned out to be the right one
17:37:54 <MrMobodies> http://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-isos.html
17:38:01 <MrMobodies> I took it from history by mistake
17:39:44 <MrMobodies> it's so I can try and get this working
17:39:45 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GE-FANUC-Quad-Port-Intelligent-Platforms-87002094-100-Rev3-WPC541310W01-PCI-e-x4/154209158821
17:39:53 <MrMobodies> looks exciting to me
17:40:29 <Ampera> 1GBASE-T?
17:40:45 <MrMobodies> it's not the speed it is the features in the controller
17:40:59 <Ampera> what can it do
17:41:08 <MrMobodies> https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/cavium/octeon_plus/cn5750-600bg1217-sp
17:41:32 <Ampera> is that a SAN controller then?
17:41:32 <MrMobodies> lots of built in offloading functions
17:41:47 <MrMobodies> it does that too
17:42:00 <Ampera> dual function NIC/SAN?
17:42:01 <Ampera> nice
17:42:19 <MrMobodies> yes
17:42:29 <MrMobodies> but it was suppose to be a packet capture card
17:43:05 <MrMobodies> that particiular board Fanuc GE
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17:47:55 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYkKC9N9PEM
17:54:27 <MrMobodies> The looks very happy
17:54:33 <MrMobodies> I mean the cat
17:56:13 <MrMobodies> tried to eat the christmas https://youtu.be/mYkKC9N9PEM?t=154
17:56:25 * Halcyon nibbles on Ampera's ear
17:56:32 <steve30> meow :)
17:56:45 * Halcyon pets the kitty
17:57:00 <steve30> Halcyon, will you come with me to the shops? I need someone to keep me warm.
17:57:25 <Halcyon> If I was your boyfriend, I would just do the shopping?
17:57:28 <Halcyon> I do anyway
17:57:48 <Halcyon> Why don't you online shop Steve? You seem to hate going out so much.
17:58:53 <steve30> I don't think they do deliveries.
17:59:26 <Halcyon> Mike Jeavons gets his food delivered. You don't have an Asda or something near you?
17:59:51 <steve30> We have an Asda about 3 miles away
18:00:02 <MrMobodies> Steve30, do you have many Co-op and Morrison stores near you?
18:00:17 <MrMobodies> they seem to be many of them in certain areas
18:00:20 <Ampera> I'll never do online shopping as long as I can help it
18:00:27 <Halcyon> What's your postcode Steve?
18:00:46 <Ampera> 06010
18:00:47 <steve30> We have two small local Co-Ops and a Morrisons
18:00:51 <steve30> Halcyon, s66 2hb
18:01:08 <Halcyon> Yeh they do in your area
18:01:11 <steve30> The shop down the road from here used to be a Co-Op, then they sold it to McColls.
18:01:26 <Halcyon> I am actually considering getting everything minus fresh meat and veg delivered. So much easier.
18:01:44 <Halcyon> But we have a butcher and green grocer just down the road so I get all that stuff from ther
18:01:45 <Halcyon> e
18:01:46 <MrMobodies> the only thing I like is the fish from Morisson
18:02:12 <Ampera> Only reason why it'd ever be difficult for me to go shopping is my lack of a driver's license
18:02:13 <steve30> Asda doesn't really help me get my M&S stuff though, which is where I predominantly go.
18:02:25 <Halcyon> Fancy
18:02:45 <MrMobodies> ah, so you can get there quicker by car.
18:03:03 <Ampera> getting there isn't the problem
18:03:13 <Ampera> it's carrying 50lbs of grocceries back by hand that's the problem
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18:03:30 <Halcyon> Oh you mean 22 kilograms
18:03:31 <Halcyon> :P
18:03:31 <MrMobodies> oh
18:03:38 <Ampera> no I mean 50 pounds
18:03:41 <Halcyon> :P
18:03:44 <Halcyon> :P :P :P
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18:04:10 <Halcyon> 50 pounds means something very, very different ;-)
18:04:12 <MrMobodies> there was a M&S foodstall in Upminster where I use to live, I went in there and went crazy for a while some years ago
18:04:14 <Halcyon> (here)
18:04:17 <MrMobodies> caused me to put on more weight
18:04:24 <MrMobodies> so I had to stop going
18:04:32 * Ampera pounds Halcyon into the ground like a nail
18:04:52 <MrMobodies> too much deserts in the front door with hardly any unwantes stuff and the sandwiches
18:05:13 <MrMobodies> I already forgot about the French cake shop and then that happened
18:07:07 <Halcyon> I guess I'm lucky, I don't have a sweet tooth
18:07:18 <Halcyon> I like savoury/spicy
18:07:48 <Ampera> my weakness is smoked salmon and bagels
18:07:50 <Halcyon> Although, Tiramisu with a nice strong espresso-based sponge is delicious
18:08:04 <Halcyon> Salmon is good for you. Probably not the bagels so much :P
18:08:22 <Halcyon> But, I should try it, I don't think I've ever had a bagel. Or if I have, I don't remember it.
18:08:32 <Halcyon> I walk past them in the shops all the time.
18:09:44 <Halcyon> Do you have them with cream cheese as well Ampera?
18:10:03 <Ampera> yes
18:11:12 <Halcyon> Nummy
18:11:19 <Halcyon> And capers?
18:11:32 <Ampera> fuck no
18:11:38 <Halcyon> You are dead to me
18:11:45 <Ampera> you were already dead
18:11:46 <Halcyon> Capers and fish are the best
18:12:00 <Halcyon> Especially with a slight drizzle of fresh olive oil
18:12:16 <Ampera> the jews here would crucify you
18:12:36 <Halcyon> News flash: Aussies don't give a shit :P
18:13:00 <Halcyon> I'll eat my jew fish any way I like :P
18:13:06 <MrMobodies> I like the tinned mackerel in spicy tomato sauce or chilli
18:13:24 <Ampera> canned fish is good
18:13:29 <Halcyon> I'm just looking up bagels at my local supermarket, and they have brioche sliced bread!
18:13:30 <Ampera> I tend to have herring though
18:13:36 <Halcyon> That is so evil
18:13:39 <Halcyon> But I want it
18:13:55 <Ampera> you're how old and you're just now discovering that bakery sections have junk food?
18:14:16 <Halcyon> I don't normally buy that stuff
18:14:27 <Halcyon> Last time I had brioche, I made them myself. But they were burger buns.
18:15:34 <MrMobodies> I was about 10 I think
18:15:53 <MrMobodies> well they made me ill, due to the cream and i had an intollerance
18:15:55 <Halcyon> https://shop.coles.com.au/a/national/product/coles-brioche-loaf-sliced
18:15:57 <MrMobodies> I call it the fakery.
18:16:07 <MrMobodies> because of the artificial cream
18:16:07 <Halcyon> I kind of want to try this now... with a sausage and sauce
18:16:33 <Ampera> looks like texas toast
18:16:51 <Halcyon> BRB, need to do the next step of dinner.
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18:24:21 <steve30> i'm off out into the cold
18:24:57 <Halcyon> Enjoy Steve
18:25:30 * steve30 pets the nice warm radiator
18:48:00 <Halcyon> That was quick
19:06:09 <MrMobodies> here's the repositories still work for that gnome 2.2
19:06:27 <MrMobodies> apparently the files have a date stamp in 2016
19:07:05 <MrMobodies> tried to manually firefox to see what would happen, turned out 78 was in Oracles repository
19:07:26 <MrMobodies> so that is kind of a strange that Oracle are keeping the stuff there
19:09:35 <MrMobodies> got to go to bed soon
19:46:25 <K> hello ferns
20:03:16 <Halcyon> Hey Ficus :P
20:39:36 * Ampera makes like a tree and gets Halcyon out of here
20:40:09 <K> getting a little stiff there, Ampera ?
20:40:51 <Ampera> K, hard to say
20:41:33 <K> cant quite get a hand-le on it, eh?
20:42:00 <Ampera> I think you're cocking these puns up.
20:42:20 <Ampera> Don't mean to be a dick, but I've been doing this for a long time.
20:45:23 <K> PENIS.
20:46:38 <Ampera> I concede, you have a solid understanding of the big dickture.
20:51:17 <K> both the length and the girth, yes.
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