// #eevblog — 2021-02-12
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00:02:40 <K> eejits
00:04:10 <hsn> K, if these are mining values it worth for me https://snipboard.io/CqEMbj.jpg
00:12:11 <K> no idea about crypto
00:14:22 <K> for me the whole crypto business feels too much like a shady "get-rich-quick" scheme, with all the worst conotations
00:15:33 <K> might sound high-horsish, but it see very little value for the society in it atm
00:15:56 <Ampera> why would anyone mine
00:15:59 <Ampera> fuck miners
00:16:10 <Ampera> glorified moles in toxic caves all they are
00:16:13 <Ampera> I hope they all get buried
00:17:45 <K> the technology itself might have some merits
00:18:04 <K> but, alas, human nature is prevailing
00:21:59 <hsn> K, for me i "bought" few amount because i also dont trust that my currency wont go down .. while i work like a donkey/slave everyday for 11 hours+ .. i wouldnt mind to put money into somthing that might bump to 2-3x times after year or so ..
00:22:36 <hsn> and ofc i dont expect to get rich in anycase .. i cant afford to put lots of money into it ..
00:23:34 <hsn> the better thing would be to invest in somthing more realistic and predictable like big companies share but im not following the news tbh ..
00:24:09 <K> what is wrong with eur/$ ?
00:26:19 <hsn> bhd is pegged to usd .. but idk ..
00:26:44 <K> can king pillage your accounts?
00:27:09 <hsn> king can do everything
00:27:45 <K> yeah :/
00:27:55 <hsn> but would he do ? idk
00:30:29 <hsn> i invested in gold with 0 risk
00:30:45 <hsn> not so big but good enough for 0 risk
00:31:14 <hsn> 13%
00:31:17 <hsn> in a year
00:32:14 <hsn> thats because i know someone who opened gold shop .. so i made a deal because he needed a cash flow ..
00:32:50 <K> well, at least untill they start mining those gold asteroids
00:32:52 <hsn> 6600$ returns 7500$
00:33:45 <hsn> huh ?
00:34:25 <hsn> is there gold in asteroids ?
00:35:19 <hsn> lol this guy at foxnews: NASA headed towards giant golden asteroid that could make everyone on Earth a billionaire
00:35:45 <hsn> what billionares would eat .. who will cook ?
00:37:36 <K> they will eat gold
00:37:39 <K> obcs
00:37:43 <K> obvs
00:38:49 <hsn> so ..
00:39:02 <hsn> foxnews: billionares are choking in their gold
00:41:26 <K> they cant, they dead too
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01:29:30 <arch> guys, one of my scope probes has a loose connection or something. it doesn't work unless i bend the wire into a specific position. is it worth fixing or salvaging, or should i get a new probe?
01:31:05 <arch> looks like passive 10x probes are about $15-20, so im fine with buying it... *shrug*
01:32:37 <coppice> cheap scope probes are the best thing to use for most things. all of them are pretty fragile, and you don't want to be worrying about them all the time
01:37:57 <arch> kinda sad because the probe that died was from my backup scope that i bought for use at work, and i didn't even use that thing more than ~10 hours at most
01:38:38 <arch> same rigol ds1054z. i have two of them.
01:40:11 <coppice> a big problem with expensive active probes is too many technicians treat them as if they were as disposable as a x10 100MHz probe, and can cost the company a fortune
01:53:08 <K> how does one kill a passive x10 probe?
01:53:28 <K> barring probing mains wrong way
01:54:53 <coppice> brutally, and without remorse
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02:10:18 <steve30> I just took my Super VHS camcorder out
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02:12:58 <Ysjoelfir> So what did you film today steve30
02:12:59 <Ysjoelfir> ?
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02:13:24 * Ysjoelfir bashes vigorously onto Tw|tch 's router
02:14:55 <Tw|tch> It hates me today I guess... just a part of country living.. old lines, just about anything can make them flicker. >.<
02:15:33 <Ampera> gotta love bailing wire nailed to 70 year old poles
02:15:43 <Tw|tch> ^
02:15:57 <Ampera> of course I have FttP and wouldn't know what that's like >:D
02:16:42 <Tw|tch> yeah, if only. :'(
02:17:01 <Ampera> Where abouts do you reside?
02:17:04 <Tw|tch> there was talk in the area of upgrading the lines... like, 5 years ago.. still yet to happen.
02:17:04 <Ampera> out of curiosity
02:17:32 <Tw|tch> 10 mins south of VA (in NC) in the mountians.
02:17:58 <Ampera> nice
02:18:07 <Ampera> I live in NY, near the capitol
02:19:15 <Tw|tch> ahh, right on
02:29:45 <steve30> Ysjoelfir, snow
02:29:52 <steve30> Then I did a short video diary.
02:33:06 <steve30> The camera did the snow better when manually white balanced.
02:33:29 <Ysjoelfir> I love snow :D
02:35:58 * steve30 fires a snowball at Ysjoelfir
02:37:58 <hsn> U love whaaat?
02:38:06 <Ysjoelfir> weeeeeeeee~ :D
02:38:20 * Ysjoelfir throws a hand full of sand at hsn
02:38:20 <hsn> steve30: is it fire or snow
02:38:32 <Ysjoelfir> the cold form of that, hsn
02:38:35 * hsn snows a fireball into Ysjoelfir
02:38:48 <Ysjoelfir> weee~....eeeee? EEEEEEEEEEEH!
02:38:57 * Ysjoelfir runs around, burning, screaming in agony
02:39:15 <hsn> Here is a bucket of water to jump into
02:39:33 <hsn> Wait .. it has sand . Water is precious in the desert
02:39:33 * Ysjoelfir already turned to ash
02:39:47 <hsn> Sand do good with fire
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03:00:55 <steve30> hmm, my CPC order the other week came to £35.45, but they've only charged my card £35.40.
03:05:47 <Ysjoelfir> Sooo.... now I have - once again - a new Keyboard. lets see if I can work with the british layout. atm its configured as german layout, but I will change that now. We'll see how long it takes for me to get used to that. switching: now.
03:06:47 * steve30 paws at Ysjoelfir's new keyboard
03:07:46 <Ysjoelfir> oi!
03:07:51 <Ysjoelfir> the good durgod
03:10:48 <K> u wot
03:11:09 <Ysjoelfir> zes!
03:11:17 <Ysjoelfir> *yes
03:11:35 <Ysjoelfir> ... this is going to be hard
03:14:42 <K> keep to to words witout y and q in them
03:15:26 <Ysjoelfir> and to not using anz punctuation at all ;)
03:15:34 <Ysjoelfir> any...
03:16:10 <Ysjoelfir> damn, the last time I had to LOOK at my keyboard has been like.... roughly 12 years?
03:16:49 <Ysjoelfir> but I already kinda like the layout, having the ? right down to the bottom right and the [] in a convenient location.... thats nice
03:17:13 <Ysjoelfir> though no german ae, ue and oe things
03:17:38 <Ysjoelfir> and also not that stupid B shaped sz thing, which I won~t miss a bit
03:17:49 <Ysjoelfir> ok, now where is the.... thing
03:17:52 <Ysjoelfir> '
03:17:56 <Ysjoelfir> ah.
03:18:12 <Ampera> my keyboard is US macintosh layout, because I of course always use a macintosh
03:18:14 <rust_collector> mornings
03:18:16 <Ysjoelfir> *won't
03:18:24 <Ysjoelfir> mornings rustz
03:18:45 <rust_collector> I want an engrish or us layout keyboard. it jst makes much more sense
03:19:26 <Ysjoelfir> then get one_ >D
03:19:32 <Ysjoelfir> ... erm... let me redo that
03:19:43 <Ysjoelfir> *then get one? :D
03:19:56 <K> get the D
03:21:38 <rust_collector> well, I was just dragged out of bed, and now I own a different car again
03:22:17 <K> again?
03:22:31 <K> ffs man
03:22:35 <rust_collector> yes, it happens now and then.
03:26:51 <steve30> I see the Wienerberger Engineering van is back across the road again. Haven't seen that for a while.
03:35:58 <Ysjoelfir> What is said van doing_
03:35:59 <Ysjoelfir> ?
03:36:24 <rust_collector> hacker cia stuff
03:36:35 <Ysjoelfir> I see.
03:39:51 <steve30> nothing
03:40:00 <steve30> I just think Weinerberger is a funny name :)
03:41:11 <Ysjoelfir> For an english company indeed :D. In german a Weinberg is a mountain where you plant grapes to make wine. I think that might be originating from that?
03:43:43 <coppice> steve30: you mean like Daimler being an odd name for English cars?
03:44:12 <coppice> steve30: although I suppose its now an Indian name for cars
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04:02:21 <hsn> Lol this cat represents me
04:02:22 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CLHa_HLM6r_/?igshid=1uxj3vumjea7a
04:10:32 <K> snow is not a laughing matter
04:12:36 <coppice> K: I laughed at my wife's attempt at a snowman yesterday
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04:16:30 <arch> ITS WORKING, ITS WORKINNGGG. after a week of pumping air thru my used ferric chloride + hcl mix, the color's changed from like a deep dark green to more yellowey
04:16:47 <arch> and i put a drop of it on a scrap copperclad, and it etched it
04:17:25 * T3sl4 pisses on arch
04:17:42 <arch> imo there's still a bit too much water. i'll evaporate it off once i get my hotplate stirrer
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04:18:08 <coppice> what is the current commercial etchant?
04:18:22 <arch> cupric chloride?
04:18:22 <T3sl4> i'm not sure that currants would be all that aggressive
04:18:40 <T3sl4> though i have no doubt they would get the job done eventually
04:18:40 <coppice> T3sl4: no shit
04:19:00 <arch> what's "currants"?
04:20:00 <T3sl4> usually, small grapes substituting for a similar berry
04:23:38 <arch> T3sl4, according to this instructable's many comments, cupric chloride apparently etches much faster? https://www.instructables.com/Stop-using-Ferric-Chloride-etchant!--A-better-etc/
04:28:00 * Ampera plinks blackcurrants at T3sl4
04:29:28 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera with a dried-berry grin
04:29:56 <Ampera> I've actually had broken into the frozen blueberries out of desperate, ravenous hunger
04:30:06 <Ampera> so my fingers and lips are quite blue
04:30:37 <Ampera> unfortunately the berries did not satiate my immense desires, so I've sinned, and ordered from the sandwich despot
04:31:08 <T3sl4> you're blue da ba de da ba die
04:31:17 * Ampera dies
04:32:58 <T3sl4> you wish
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04:35:40 <TheDude> g'day
04:36:42 <Ampera> hi TheDude how are you doing
04:37:34 <T3sl4> d'gay TheDude
04:48:02 <TheDude> pretty good :)
04:48:06 <TheDude> you two?
04:48:29 <Ampera> borgar
04:53:04 <TheDude> sir dis is wendy's we don hav borger
04:53:20 <Ampera> thas why you need the king
04:53:23 * Ampera puts on shades
04:53:27 <Ampera> the burger king
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04:59:49 <TheDude> welp, the internet connection seems to be acting up
05:00:43 <Ampera> reminds me of my grandfather, complaining his cable internet kept dropping out
05:01:15 <TheDude> broken latch on the rj-45?
05:01:29 <Ampera> so his idea of a solution was to buy some coax cable and make an extension to the one which was coming out of the wall (no jack here) and then move the modem to a different part of the room
05:01:44 <Ampera> We don't use RJ-45 for networking here, we use 8P8C connectors
05:01:57 <Ampera> RJ45, afaik, is for (up to) 4 line telephone systems
05:02:38 <Ampera> anyways, he was quite perplexed when I told him that moving a box from one part of a room to another wouldn't do anything
05:02:49 <Ampera> and he later found out that everyone in the area on Comcast had constant problems to
05:02:51 <Ampera> *too
05:03:08 <TheDude> 8p8c is the connector one is referring to when one says rj-45
05:03:18 <TheDude> or rj45*
05:03:24 <Ampera> then how would one refer to RJ45
05:03:44 <TheDude> nobody refers to the thing you're talking about :D
05:03:56 <Ampera> I do
05:04:15 <TheDude> no u
05:04:23 <Ampera> Yes, I.
05:06:20 <Ampera> mmm, fish sandwich
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05:49:13 <Ampera> Hi ThunderSqueak how are you doing
05:49:32 <ThunderSqueak> doing ok, job interview tomorrow
05:49:39 <Ampera> Nice, what job?
05:49:47 <ThunderSqueak> just a job
05:49:52 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
05:51:14 <T3sl4> ThunderSqueak!
05:51:30 <T3sl4> gl on the just a job job
05:51:40 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, thanks :)
06:03:28 <T3sl4> steve30: https://i.redd.it/dnvyx02jlvg61.jpg
06:03:39 <steve30> meow
06:16:26 <steve30> ooh, I'm up to 11 subscribers on Pornhub.
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06:29:24 <guest012> Hi
06:31:49 <guest012> How does one tell the difference between through hole MLCC capacitors and non-MLCC ceramic capacitors from appearance? Are through hole MLCC capacitors generally more shiny?
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06:54:10 <steve30> no idea, sorry
06:54:21 <guest012> that's ok
06:54:32 <T3sl4> the shape, i guess?
06:55:13 <T3sl4> MLCC are usually dipped (shiny like film caps, but shaped like a chip with leads welded on, which is what it is), or molded (usually a matte finish)
06:55:24 <T3sl4> what non-MLCC are you concerned about, though?
06:56:05 <T3sl4> disc are obviously disc-shaped, either a glossy colored or matte ceramic dip
06:56:40 <guest012> just sorting through surplus components, I have several capacitors which look something like this: https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/mlccs-multilayer-ceramic-capacitors/5381427/
06:56:42 <T3sl4> i don't think there are many square discs, which, hm, is kind of odd i guess, surely they'd have higher yields with squares wouldn't they? but whatever, they've just always made discs when they do
06:57:14 <guest012> while others look like this: https://i.stack.imgur.com/Qmal7.png
06:57:31 <T3sl4> or the really old ones that are tubular, usually obviously so, but some were also molded so you get an axial ceramic capacitor that could be confused with an axial film
06:57:45 <T3sl4> yeah, that'd be MLCC vs disc
06:58:20 <T3sl4> so, assorted surplus? no packaging, ratings are a gamble?
06:59:02 <T3sl4> your bigger problem is going to be C(V) drop, and tempco
06:59:33 <guest012> yea most are no packaging just drawers of capacitors
06:59:47 <guest012> 4p7/6p8/8p2 etc
07:00:27 <T3sl4> small values are usually C0G, sometimes theres a black mark on top
07:00:43 <guest012> yea these are grey dotted iwth a black mark on top
07:00:46 <T3sl4> everything else might be Y5P or worse
07:02:17 <guest012> are the voltage ratings usually high for ceramics and therefore for low voltage <50v the voltage rating shouldn't be too much of a concern?
07:02:37 <T3sl4> 16V or so is pretty safe to assume
07:02:48 <guest012> ok thanks
07:03:49 <T3sl4> C0G and a few other low-k types will measure stable up until it pops, the others you'll measure less C as bias voltage increases. this can be done with a test jig and multimeter
07:05:04 <T3sl4> even a, like, "104Z 50V" (probably Z5U, one of the worst in stability) might measure half value at 20V or something, the voltage rating doesn't really tell you anything about what voltage the value is good for, just that it's not going to pop at that voltage
07:05:43 <guest012> oh
07:06:49 <guest012> many of these are not exactly disc shaped though I think they are still non-MLCC cap's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic_capacitor#/media/File:MLCC-Scheiben-Kerkos-P1090142c.jpg
07:07:15 <guest012> I shouldn't have taken all this stuff, probably better to buy what I needed when I needed it
07:07:21 <T3sl4> oh yeah, there's that style of square disc, forgot about that
07:07:38 <guest012> most of the ones that I have appear to be the square disc type
07:07:38 <T3sl4> seems old, or european or something not sure, but yeah there's that too
07:08:13 <T3sl4> usually you can see where the leads contact the face, cuz again, it's dipped
07:08:20 <T3sl4> MLCCs don't have that
07:10:27 <guest012> I think I'll just combine what I think are MLCCs and non-MLCCs into the same drawers
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13:16:20 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: It's now taking a really long time for stock to be processed in the amazon warehouse from when it arrives from the supplier (me) to when they can ship it. These units available to ship Feb 18th arrived at the Amazon warehouse on the 2nd. Used to only take a couple of days. https://t.co/6xnDXd94Jo
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13:59:57 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: i love it when a slug ship threatens me with hacking and a fire weapon, then i immolate them with a fire beam
14:09:58 <rust_collector> have you tried sprinkling salt on them?
14:10:16 <T3sl4> perhaps unsurprisingly -- there's a mod where you can do that
14:10:57 <T3sl4> also, the difficulty and randomness of the game tends to make players "salty", so there's that too
14:11:51 <rust_collector> oh, it is a game... I was hoping something interesting was going on over there
14:12:24 <T3sl4> do slugs like sailing on the oceans? they're salty
14:12:37 <T3sl4> eh, there are saltwater slugs i think, or relatives at least
14:12:56 <rust_collector> They do, but they have problems with boat builting, as they do not have any fingers
14:13:13 <T3sl4> mucus isn't quite strong enough
14:18:51 <rust_collector> time for a nap. good night
14:20:07 <T3sl4> o/
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15:29:05 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Sample https://t.co/w7ofmcvkkP
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18:45:14 <Ysjoelfir> mornings all
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18:48:58 <K> hello pines
18:49:23 <T3sl4> what a sap
18:50:41 <K> no u
18:51:29 <steve30> hi
18:57:34 * T3sl4 gives steve30 some fresh pine rosin
19:00:25 <steve30> yummy
19:00:32 * steve30 nibbles
19:02:06 * Ysjoelfir hugs K, T3sl4 and steve30
19:02:21 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir stickily
19:02:24 <K> distancing!
19:03:07 <T3sl4> it's okay, i'm shielded in a glowing overcoat of pine rosin
19:03:12 * Ysjoelfir is happy to announce, that german government decided that now, that the british and the three other corona versions appeared in germanistan, its time to loosen the restrictions.
19:03:25 <Ysjoelfir> So no worries K, its all fiiiiiine, richt?
19:03:56 <Ysjoelfir> *right?
19:03:59 <K> well.
19:04:11 <K> it is what it is.
19:04:30 <T3sl4> oh hey, i know someone famous who once said that
19:04:35 <K> i believe that govermenting is hard
19:04:36 <T3sl4> infamous*
19:04:57 <steve30> yay coronaviruses
19:07:49 <Ysjoelfir> I think governmenting would be way easier if those dickheads would for once think rationally and oriented towards a target that is in 2 to 3 years instead of deciding to do tomorrow what would have been sensible to do 4 weeks ago based on numbers from 3 months ago, keeping in mind that the things need at least 2 weeks time to implement.
19:11:09 <K> rationality is subjective
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19:12:01 <Ysjoelfir> it is indeed, but I don't think that THAT is the way to go...
19:12:08 <T3sl4> buh
19:12:11 <K> in a way it is good that one rationality does not get overwhelming, that way many bad things lay
19:13:39 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
19:13:55 <Ysjoelfir> the T3sl4 died and returned from the dead!
19:14:08 <K> twice!
19:14:08 * T3sl4 makes spooky noises behind Ysjoelfir
19:20:40 <Ysjoelfir> eeeek!
19:21:04 * Ysjoelfir equips a Feuerwurst and uses it as a dagger against the T3sl4
19:21:25 <T3sl4> aghast! stabbed right in the mouth!
19:21:33 * T3sl4 spurts ketchup
19:22:57 <K> oh deary me
19:24:17 <Ysjoelfir> a win!
19:41:31 <steve30> I think I'll go out for a walk
20:04:53 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy :)
20:05:17 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: jabrils: Moment of silence for all the good ideas you forgot to write down.
20:15:32 <hsn> I got another self isolation
20:18:37 <K> you are a winner!
20:19:15 <K> how is vaccine business going on over there, hsn?
20:19:51 <hsn> K pretty good
20:20:00 * Ampera sneezes at Halcyon
20:20:04 * Ampera sneezes at Halcyon again
20:20:06 <hsn> Lots of vaccination
20:20:22 <hsn> I didnt register .. because meh
20:20:31 <Ampera> I don't need a vaccine, my phone has 5G
20:20:40 <K> why not register, hsn?
20:21:00 <hsn> They say "it wont prevent u from getting covid19" but will cause less effects if u had it
20:21:09 <hsn> So .. why bother ..
20:21:14 <Ampera> If they had a waiting list for vaccine to the general dumbass here I'd sign up right now
20:22:15 <K> it says it does not 100% prevent you from getting it
20:22:17 <hsn> Even vacinated ppl are going to tests when they get exposed to patient ..
20:22:41 <K> so there is merit to have it
20:22:50 <hsn> K i dont even think of covid as serious illness .. mostly just a flu
20:22:57 <K> eh?
20:23:07 <hsn> XD
20:23:13 <Ampera> pretty damn virulent flu
20:23:30 <Ampera> gives the spanish flu a run for its money
20:24:13 <hsn> Normal flu can be danger also
20:24:26 <K> we have drugs for normal flu
20:24:48 <K> in case of covid there are no specific anti-virals to help
20:25:04 <K> so ppl die, horribly
20:25:23 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: wassim.dev | JavaScript: Only makers will understand! #makers #electronics #DIY https://t.co/1tHB6APwNS
20:25:30 <hsn> https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm#:~:text=What%20is%20the%20difference%20between,by%20infection%20with%20influenza%20viruses.
20:26:14 <Ampera> Symptoms aren't really the problem with COVID
20:26:27 <Ampera> it's the ease of transmission that's the big deal
20:26:49 <T3sl4> and the complications, like chronic or long duration heart problems, lung capacity etc
20:26:55 <K> if there was a speicic antiviral drug, it could be distributed like candy
20:27:01 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
20:27:07 <K> would lower the transmission rate
20:27:10 <K> but there isnt
20:27:13 * Ampera give T3sl4 a 5G-equipped helmet
20:27:29 <T3sl4> mmm, cozy
20:28:19 <hsn> The first studies of the covid-19 shows that the world is moving randomly because of the freaking news
20:28:26 <Ampera> Best I know, the vaccine prevents you from getting COVID (or has a good chance of doing so), not be necessarily preventing it from getting into your body, but by using covid-like protein structures to teach the immune system to create antibodies that can destroy the virus
20:28:37 <Ampera> *not by
20:29:23 <T3sl4> it's unusually safe because it doesn't contain actually any of the virus at all
20:29:25 <hsn> Mit and others where publishing stupid ambu bags stuff just for branding .. and then after a month or so ... CPAP doesnt even help much ..
20:29:26 <Ampera> I have no clue if this vaccine is truly effective, or how effective it is, but the wind blows to say that it's not doing too bad
20:29:46 <T3sl4> i mean, i'm sure there's some random ass response some people will have, but it still ain't gonna be a viral infection if so
20:30:26 <hsn> Vaccine for sure is better .. but for me i just dont care enough to get it ..
20:30:47 <T3sl4> do you not care enough for your friends or family, or sick kids or old people, to get it?
20:30:52 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
20:30:57 <Ampera> I'm not gonna berate anyone into getting it
20:30:59 <hsn> Dont want to wait or register .. when i do want to travel or somthing i will consider it
20:31:18 <hsn> T3sl4: they should vacinate .. ?
20:31:32 <K> but what if the can not?
20:31:34 <T3sl4> i mean, you buy groceries and stuff, right?
20:31:37 <hsn> T3sl4: im capactive coupled
20:31:53 <hsn> Only ac type covid-19 can pass to me
20:32:18 <T3sl4> if you're holed up quarantining at home and order everything for delivery, you're no risk to yourself or anyone else
20:32:30 <K> like if they have cancer or other imunity lowering problems?
20:33:08 <T3sl4> if you get covid you'll be incapacitatingly coupled to those people
20:34:26 <hsn> T3sl4: im cautious enough .. to cause less harm than lots of ppl here .. i wear mask and keep good distance usually
20:35:03 <T3sl4> that helps
20:35:24 <hsn> Also there is enough ppl getting vaccine .. the que is full so basically im not changing the whole country plan
20:39:57 <hsn> K, i heared that after you vacinate .. you can still be a carrier ..
20:43:33 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/SwAo3X4YePRtP1Kh8
20:44:02 <hsn> They give u choice
20:44:21 <K> oh.
20:44:33 <K> sinopharm is what? chineese?
20:45:38 <hsn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBIBP-CorV
20:45:41 <hsn> Yes
20:45:50 <K> vaccine does not 100% kill virus, but reduces its replication rate
20:45:51 <K> https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/feb/09/pfizerbiontech-covid-vaccine-reducing-viral-load-data-israel-suggests
20:46:08 <K> which in turn lowers transmission
20:47:03 <hsn> True
20:49:41 <hsn> https://www.wired.com/story/nasa-wants-to-set-a-new-radiation-limit-for-astronauts/
20:50:08 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ePSaqFTQZfWYdB16
20:50:08 <hsn> Good breakfast
20:50:45 <hsn> Papertest is soom to be implemented .. https://photos.app.goo.gl/KCmHkA5p9e1drAS27
20:51:29 <hsn> Each flush = water + paper slury
21:02:09 <K> space toilet
21:04:15 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Damn, I think that with one of these I could eliminate Xsplit PC recording entirely. Well, two required, one for the soldering bench one for the editing desk. https://t.co/5azcsAR496
21:09:37 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: And because I could feed the mixed camera output (inc green screen floating head) to the actual monitor being captured, I'd never have to look away to the 2nd screen to see if I have my head cam in frame and focus etc.
21:54:11 <hsn> https://youtu.be/o1MZOtKYnfM
21:54:19 <hsn> Akazing senator
21:54:22 <hsn> M
21:55:19 <K> no, nein, verboten.
21:55:28 <K> dont wanna wach zuck
21:55:59 <Ysjoelfir> XD
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22:09:26 <hsn> K we will follow-up with you or your team
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23:21:14 <hsn> https://youtu.be/UkQHCSZQvv0
23:21:18 <hsn> NASA’s Gold Box Will Make Oxygen on Mars
23:22:19 <Ampera> I did something cool. I wrote a function that deserializes a file with key=value pairs into an object by using C# reflection
23:22:55 <Ampera> so I can define new key=value pairs just by adding properties to the class/object
23:23:37 <Ampera> I originally wrote my GPS emulator with a profile system that created key=value files using blunt force string parsing and manipulation that was messy and used more RAM than it needed
23:23:51 <hsn> Ampera, u r always cool
23:24:02 <Ampera> I'm going to replace that system with JSON because it'd be easier on anyone else who wanted to read those profiles
23:24:03 <hsn> cool people do cool things
23:24:36 <Ampera> but for legacy use, I rewrote the old profile system into my new GPS emulator library using a deserialize/serialize class really similar to JsonConvert
23:25:25 <Ampera> to boot, it scans with respect to line endings, to the profile can be given just as a single string read from a file
23:25:47 <Ampera> so I don't waste memory splitting things into lists or 2D arrays or whatever
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