// #eevblog — 2021-02-27
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00:19:40 <electrohead> o/
00:33:58 * T3sl4 hugs electrohead
00:35:44 * Ysjoelfir jumps at electrohead and hugs him
00:36:41 <Ysjoelfir> mr. head, you ditched me yesterday, I was very hurt :'(
00:37:34 <T3sl4> electrohead, i suggest apologizing with a green tea + honey
00:37:58 <Ysjoelfir> yes, at least!
00:39:02 * electrohead apologizes with green tea and honey
00:39:05 <electrohead> lol
00:39:08 <electrohead> yeah sorry about that, mate
00:39:11 <Ysjoelfir> weeeeeeeeee \o/
00:39:18 * Ysjoelfir slurps on tea
00:39:21 <Ysjoelfir> its fine :)
00:39:25 * Ysjoelfir slurps some more
00:39:27 <electrohead> I got busy here with a few things
00:39:28 <electrohead> :p
00:39:38 <Ysjoelfir> no! :O
00:39:40 <Ysjoelfir> dont say
00:39:45 <Ysjoelfir> that someone stole your beer!?
00:40:05 <electrohead> lol
00:40:08 <electrohead> nah
00:40:10 <electrohead> :P
00:40:30 <Ysjoelfir> then it cant be that bad
00:41:32 <T3sl4> better still, if someone paid for your beer
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00:58:23 <electrohead> https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/2021-02-26-085741_1600x900_scrot.png
00:58:40 <Ysjoelfir> You rich bastard :D
00:58:48 <electrohead> pfft
00:58:53 <electrohead> I've been saving
00:58:56 <electrohead> :p
00:59:00 <Ysjoelfir> thats ok than :D
00:59:11 <electrohead> man, I am *far* from rich
00:59:13 <electrohead> heh
01:00:32 <Ysjoelfir> My mum got a letter today. German Telekom wants to build FTTH in the region she lives in. Since they got funding from the city they offered to give her a free FTTH connection.
01:00:52 <Ysjoelfir> She was like "I don't need that!" to which I replied "YES YOU DO WANT FTTH FOR FREE!"
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01:08:31 <K> CAN I HAVE TWO?
01:08:55 <K> otoh i could get fiber for about the same monies i pay for dsl
01:09:24 <Ysjoelfir> I wouldn't complain about free fibers as well
01:10:02 <K> like "free instalation" or "free use for 183883883 GB" ?
01:10:58 <Ysjoelfir> free installation. right now there is NO fiber in that city at all.
01:11:10 <K> oh.
01:11:29 <Ysjoelfir> the plan is not much more than regular DSL, but installation costs would be like 10 to 50 grand normally if your flat isn't already connected
01:44:06 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/IrSCYFe.gifv
01:49:43 <K> birbs
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02:02:31 <Nothing\> hey all, how's it hangin?
02:13:18 <T3sl4> a Nothing\!
02:15:48 * Nothing\ hugs T3sl4
02:15:52 <Nothing\> hey man, how are you?
02:16:00 <T3sl4> *hugs* good, you?
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02:16:23 <Nothing\> I'm doing alright
02:16:28 <Nothing\> a bit worried about my brother though
02:17:03 <Nothing\> him and his roommate got the shit beat out of them when their 280lb 6.5 foot native american roommate lost his mind and literally tried to kill them both
02:17:30 <Nothing\> https://ibb.co/hYfYbJp
02:17:54 <T3sl4> :/
02:17:56 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
02:18:07 <Nothing\> got choked out, stomped on, front teeth knocked out, or at least the veneers anyways, ribs bruised and/or broken
02:18:13 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera
02:18:18 <Ampera> sounds nice
02:18:18 <Nothing\> hey man, how you doing?
02:18:24 <Nothing\> but other than that, i'm doing well
02:18:25 <Ampera> I've been awake
02:18:35 <Ampera> Where have you been for all this time anyways
02:18:39 <Ampera> you weren't on for a while
02:18:44 <Nothing\> i'm just a bit worried he mighta had a concussion, and between drinking and pills he was taking that can't be a good combination
02:19:09 <Nothing\> Ampera, ah i've just been keeping to myself. Haven't realy felt too social I guess.
02:19:40 <Nothing\> But I looked into this guy's history, he's got at least 2 priors and an outstanding warrant from up north for violent crimes
02:19:52 <Ampera> sounds like a nice guy
02:19:54 <Nothing\> so there's no way he's making bail and he's probably gonna do pen time for this
02:20:02 <Nothing\> Ampera, really he was, until last night
02:20:26 <Nothing\> their other room mate said something like it's shitty how the europeans came and took all of your land
02:20:46 <Ampera> lol
02:20:50 <Nothing\> and he just lost it, saying they didn't take shit and the natives still run things, then started beating the shit out of him and choked him till he was turning blue
02:21:18 <Nothing\> at which point my brother jumped on him, all 120lb and 5'5" of him
02:21:19 <Ampera> I guess that's go woke get broke to an extreme...
02:21:37 <Nothing\> but this guy was literally trying to choke them both to death
02:21:39 <Ampera> I'm a smaller person, but that's tiny
02:22:07 <Nothing\> my brother finally got a chance to call the landlord who called the cops and the guy's in jail with a restraining order and trespass order for the property and the landlord said he's out immediately
02:22:23 <Nothing\> yeah, he's not a big guy at all
02:22:28 <Nothing\> i'm small too, and he's smaller than me
02:22:39 <Nothing\> 5'7" 150lbs
02:22:55 <Ampera> You're even smaller than I am
02:23:01 <Ampera> 5'8" 170lbs
02:23:05 <Nothing\> i dunno what he's gonna do about his teeth, he certainly can't afford to replace the veneers
02:23:11 <Nothing\> ah damn
02:23:20 <Nothing\> yeah it's funny, i'm the tallest one in my family too
02:23:39 <Nothing\> i remember the doctor saying according to my growth chart, i should be 5'10" when i was an adult
02:23:58 <Ampera> I got a new webcam anyways
02:24:03 <Nothing\> i wonder if he was either wrong about that, or if the drugs and harsh lifestyle during my teenage years just stunted my growth
02:24:16 <Nothing\> oh yeah? I've been thinking about getting one
02:24:21 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446784913467899945/813373952222167090/20210222_063721.jpg
02:24:21 <Nothing\> or a microphone anyways
02:24:51 <Nothing\> the strain relief on my old mic didn't relieve enough strain apparently and the wire just broke off
02:25:03 <Nothing\> nice
02:25:11 <Nothing\> that's a lot different from what i was picturing
02:25:32 <Nothing\> heh i actually figured out how to do some neat stuff with the camera on my mom's phone the other day
02:25:40 <Nothing\> like set the shutter speed for up to 30 seconds
02:25:46 <Nothing\> or take time lapse videos
02:26:02 <Nothing\> which end up being 1.8gb for 5 minutes :/
02:26:17 <Nothing\> i dunno what compression it's using but it's clearly garbage
02:26:48 <Ampera> https://www.sony.com/electronics/handycam-camcorders/fdr-ax53
02:26:51 <Ampera> This is the camera I bought
02:27:32 <Nothing\> damn that's nice
02:27:36 <Ampera> Aye
02:27:41 <Nothing\> ya know what i'd love to get? one of those flir cameras
02:27:52 <Nothing\> but they cost an arm and a leg, even just for entry level ones
02:27:56 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuWQjoiorY8
02:28:01 <Ampera> Here's some test footage I shot with it
02:28:20 <Nothing\> lucky for you, i have a 4k display
02:28:36 <Ampera> lol, I don't
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02:28:52 <Ampera> My ultrawide is effectively 4k with the vertical resolution halved
02:29:04 <Ampera> I have a meeting in a minute, be back in a bit
02:32:58 <Nothing\> lol my cat loved that video
02:33:06 <Nothing\> but yeah dude, that's crystal clear, i love it
02:33:13 <Nothing\> definitely a good investment
02:33:24 <Ampera> It has good battery life too
02:33:33 <Ampera> 3.5 hours rated when recording at 4k
02:33:50 <Nothing\> that's pretty decent, 4k probably uses a lot of power
02:34:00 <Nothing\> hey TheDude
02:34:06 <Nothing\> how's it going, dude?
02:34:23 <Nothing\> speaking of videos
02:34:30 <Nothing\> you see that video of the mars rover landing?
02:34:34 <Ampera> nope
02:34:35 <Nothing\> that was some incredible footage
02:34:49 <Nothing\> yeah they actually got 3 different angles of it, real video, not just an artist's rendering
02:35:13 <TheDude> hello
02:35:27 <TheDude> the tunneling didn't work
02:35:30 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7rZEEeC_YM&ab_channel=GlobalNews
02:35:54 <Nothing\> they even put microphones on the rover, so they can listen to the sounds of mars
02:35:56 <TheDude> the connection was getting shut down on every attempt
02:36:29 <TheDude> I'm gonna try to change the port to something like 443, to try and fool whatever internet security bullshit they have going on
02:36:31 <Nothing\> which is interesting, i was reading through a page on nasa's site that was talking about how things sound different on mars because of the lower air pressure and what not
02:36:53 <Nothing\> apparently it attenuates high pitched noises so much, things like bells and bird tweets are practically inaudible
02:37:23 <Nothing\> they had a few examples of regular sounds as heard on earth compared to how they'd sound on mars and it sounds like they went through a low pass filter
02:38:22 <Nothing\> they released 2 audio recordings so far, one from the surface which just sounds like nothing, and another from space where all you can hear is the heat pumps whirring away, circulating coolant
02:38:54 <Nothing\> i think it'd be cool to get audio of it crunching rocks and soil as it roves along
02:39:31 <Nothing\> it's incredible the suite of instruments they put on this thing, though
02:39:44 <Nothing\> blows all of the previous rovers out of the water
02:40:31 <Nothing\> they even have a system where they're gonna collect soil samples and leave them in a specific place to be picked up by a future rover that'll have a little rocket on it that'll return the samples to Earth. How cool is that?
02:42:44 <K> it is some cool.
02:43:48 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/UROKUcj.jpg
02:43:52 <Nothing\> oh yeah, i was perusing canadian drug laws last night
02:44:15 <Nothing\> apparently the potassium permanganate i got is considered a class a precursor, i think for meth
02:44:33 <Nothing\> which means it's legal to possess, but you can't sell it without a license
02:44:45 <Nothing\> which makse me wonder about the vendor i bought it from on amazon
02:45:22 <Nothing\> lol i always thought bill nye had a weird shaped skull
02:45:33 <Nothing\> it's shaped like a lightbulb or something
02:45:59 <Nothing\> or an upside down pear
02:51:38 <T3sl4> a little bit i guess, or his hair accentuates it
02:54:54 <Nothing\> definitely
03:04:41 <T3sl4> huh, what the heck is permanganate used for anyway?
03:04:51 <T3sl4> evidently, a purification step in the extraction
03:10:59 <T3sl4> sheesh, is there even shipment of raw coca or extract outside of producer countries? seems like a pretty useless thing to restrict
03:11:31 <T3sl4> especially given how useful it is, though also given how dangerous an oxidizer it is, a little control is understandable, but that's a completely different reason
03:11:41 * T3sl4 shrug
03:12:08 <Ysjoelfir> Over here we have restrictions for some very nice cleaners, just because people noticed that eating that stuff makes you high...
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03:30:57 <Lord_of_nothing_> hi
03:31:12 <steve30> hi
03:40:38 <Ysjoelfir> hi
03:50:28 <steve30> Ysjoelfir, I met music video guy. I've now got 45 minutes worth of footage to try and use for a 2 minute song.
03:55:04 * electrohead offers sushi
03:57:52 <Lord_of_nothing_> omg good luck
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04:04:46 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, yeah i remember back in the days when i experimented with drugs i got this stuff called GBL, or gamma-butyrolactone, which is a very potent sedative, but it also happens to be a strong solvent and as a result, it's great for cleaning everything from circuit boards to fuel injectors.
04:05:02 <Nothing\> but i think it's been scheduled now
04:05:36 <Nothing\> funny thing is since it was such a good solvent, it would literally eat a hole through anything plastic
04:06:07 <Nothing\> i even tried diluting some in orange juice at about a 1:50 ratio and it was enough to turn a plastic water bottle as floppy as a ziplock bag
04:06:28 <Nothing\> i figured it was best to just throw that out lol
04:06:48 <Nothing\> actually, it's metabolized directly into GHB, if you've ever heard of that
04:06:54 <Nothing\> the so-called daterape drug
04:07:16 <Nothing\> but anywho, i've gotta pop over to the vape shop for some ejuice so i'll bbiab take care, guys
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04:58:59 <arch> dafuq https://www.ebay.com/itm/OhmStar-SMART-Resistance-Substitution-Box-Programmable-Ohm-Source-MADE-in-USA/253114984571
04:59:31 <arch> too expensive for what it's doing. i bet you could do the same with a bunch of shift registers controlled by an arduino that controls those digital pot arrays
05:00:15 <Kuschelpony> hmmmmmmm, why not just wire up a potentiometer and turn it by hand...
05:00:39 <T3sl4> digipot? oh you sweet summer child
05:00:55 <Kuschelpony> for the rare cases, like smps loop optimization whgen i need to manually tune something at all
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05:03:10 <arch> i prefer using just a pot too
05:03:17 <arch> instead of that fancy shmanch crap
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05:43:25 <rust_collector> HELLO!
05:45:44 <Kuschelpony> shyquiethello
05:51:21 <rust_collector> hi mr pony. so this is the weekend, eh?
05:51:25 <rust_collector> WOOHOO!
05:51:53 <arch> i wish i could be as happy as rust_collector =(
05:53:21 <rust_collector> I'm not happy, I just like to pretend online
05:53:37 <Kuschelpony> yes there is the weekend
05:54:15 <Kuschelpony> i am partially sometimes happy, but most i feel worry, anxiety and sleepless for social reasons that do not really fit here
05:54:38 <Kuschelpony> so i am either mostly silent or try to focus on pure technical discussion
06:00:55 <rust_collector> meh, it is ok to talk here if you need to
06:03:01 <rust_collector> if you want to, send me a message here, if you feel the need, I suck at that kind of talking thing, but hey...
06:13:13 <Kuschelpony> i have still not regoistered so i cant sent messages
06:14:08 <Kuschelpony> but to say in short, electronics is my other hobby that i do but it barely gives me satisfaction anymore, what i am missing is more the kind of non-sexual adult stuff that challenges the body
06:15:13 <DHess_US> https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/26/5192d3bdfa2285bb.mp4
06:15:19 <rust_collector> yes, you have mentioned that. but, if you want to talk, you can
06:21:04 <Kuschelpony> i think that fits better in very different chats
06:21:12 <Kuschelpony> sorry i should never have mentioned it
06:22:18 <Kuschelpony> i just think the way my brain works, i can only ever be successfull around engineers and tinkerers like here, but not in the other special world where people are higly socially vulnerable and selective
06:24:24 <rust_collector> it is ok. I think most of what is said here fits better in other chats, lol.
06:24:53 <rust_collector> so! I am going back to making dinner for a little bit
06:28:09 <DHess_US> Found a new way to determine the end of winter - stores stop stocking ice melt.
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07:21:02 <Kuschelpony> wow thats impressive stuff, surely interesting if someone wants to run an induction heater to melt metals https://www.final-materials.com/de/337-zirkonfaser-gewebe-2200c
07:22:15 <electrohead> o/
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07:41:01 <JanePrivate> Hello, been looking at banggood for a cheap soldering iron with temperature-regulation. I'm from a country with only access to banggood and high import taxes so my budget's tight. I saw these two: https://ph.banggood.com/Handskit-90W-LED-Digital-Soldering-Iron-Kit-110V-or-220V-Adjust-Temperature-Electrical-Soldering-Iron-4-Wire-Core-Welding-Tools-p
07:41:02 <JanePrivate> -1737759.html
07:41:04 <JanePrivate> https://ph.banggood.com/YIHUA-908D-II-Temperature-Adjustable-Soldering-Iron-Station-Temperature-Correction-Sleep-Protection-65W-90480-Removable-Stand-p-1532437.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search
07:41:08 <JanePrivate> are they any good?
07:42:27 <JanePrivate> My budget's only at 27-28 USD when converted. I'm grateful for any insights thank you
07:43:19 <rust_collector> I rrrrealy don't know. i am pretty sure the last one will do some basic soldering. I can not open the first link
07:43:50 <Ysjoelfir> if you must, opt for the YIIIHUUUAAAAAAA
07:44:14 <JanePrivate> thank you, the first link is this handskit 90w LED soldering iron https://ph.banggood.com/Handskit-90W-LED-Digital-Soldering-Iron-Kit-110V-or-220V-Adjust-Temperature-Electrical-Soldering-Iron-4-Wire-Core-Welding-Tools-p-1737759.html?cur_warehouse=CN&ID=523698
07:46:01 <rust_collector> yeah, I don't know anything about that one. but yihua does tend to work. I use a yihua 936, and it is fine for little electronics things
07:49:04 <JanePrivate> I saw those too and was considering until I saw the power supply is sold separately and together would be twice my budget. The 908D though has the power supply built in. I'm sure the 936 is better compared to it and modularity's good for replacements too.
07:49:37 <JanePrivate> Thank you rust_collector. I'm going to buy some tips wedge tips too for good measure
07:50:13 <Ysjoelfir> youre welcome
07:51:10 <rust_collector> good luck
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08:14:07 <electrohead> JanePrivate: if your budget was a bit higher, I'd recommend the TS100
08:14:36 <rust_collector> yes, you would...
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08:15:44 <Guest|94543> hello
08:15:48 <Ysjoelfir> I would consider the T12
08:15:56 <Ysjoelfir> thats also pretty nice actually
08:16:17 <Ysjoelfir> I have the T12-Q19, branded "Quecoo"
08:16:23 <Ysjoelfir> Also hello Guest|94543
08:17:21 <Guest|94543> can someone help me troubleshoot a over 35 year old amp. it keeps on drifting from stereo to mono randomly. i sprayed contact cleaner bassicly everywhere and i dont really now how much that helped but i think it might of did something
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08:18:02 <Ysjoelfir> did you wiggle all the switches and pots half a million times after adding contact cleaner?
08:18:23 <Guest|94543> no
08:18:28 <Guest|94543> what will that do
08:19:36 <Ysjoelfir> wiping off the dirt that is on the contacts, using the contact cleaner you sprayed in there
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08:22:53 <Guest|94543> alright thanks for the help! should i re apply contact cleaner. it has already evaproted by now
08:23:09 <rust_collector> yep
08:23:42 <Ysjoelfir> a good contact cleaner shouldn't evaporate at all. it is acidic and cleans the residues. after that (and after the million wiggles) you wash the switches and pots with alcohol and after that you should add a contact protection.
08:24:17 <Ysjoelfir> suggested products: Kontakt 60, IPA, Kontakt 61 (in that order)
08:24:47 <Guest|94543> is the alchoal just for protection or will it help improve the connection
08:25:02 <Ysjoelfir> it cleans out the ACIDIC contact cleaner.
08:25:16 <Ysjoelfir> you want your pots to be clean, not eaten away, right? ;)
08:26:07 <Guest|94543> yea, but shipping times and spending money and having to wait a while for product to come
08:26:49 <Guest|94543> can you find the alchoal at a hardware store
08:28:59 <Lord_of_nothing_> good night
08:29:08 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: wtf, i just got two "Charlie"s in FTL (the some-guy-stranded-on-a-planet event)
08:29:28 <JanePrivate> The TS100 is good, I only solder at one room so portability is lost on me
08:30:17 <JanePrivate> My luck's bad with that event, always gets my half my crew chewed out
08:31:13 <Ysjoelfir> sure you can.
08:31:17 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4: nice! :D
08:31:54 <T3sl4> also wow, i had some terrible runs on this ship last night, now i have full crew, good weps, and extra power (zoltans)
08:32:07 <Ysjoelfir> nice! Kill it!
08:32:12 <T3sl4> the last run ended spectacularly tho
08:32:31 <T3sl4> jump to pulsar, zwoom shields go down
08:32:41 <Ysjoelfir> With you being dead, or you winning?
08:32:47 <Ysjoelfir> yay?
08:32:54 <T3sl4> they have 3 crew and med bay, i try boarding (with 3 crew)
08:33:16 <T3sl4> they have 3 pew pews that never go offline during the battle
08:33:43 * rust_collector eats stuff
08:34:09 <T3sl4> i'm down to about 1/4 hp at this point, one of their shots hits my clone bay currently tending to the fallen (3 not-full-health crew vs 3 trained hoomans)
08:34:21 <T3sl4> a couple more shots and fires, i burst into pieces
08:35:25 <T3sl4> i tried my best with that build but i just can't figure out the starding weapons (lock and stun bomb) and never got any. i got drone control, which was the right decision at the time, but no help against frikkin lazers
08:35:41 <T3sl4> it was glorious :D
08:35:45 <T3sl4> gloriously bad, i mean
08:36:16 * T3sl4 shrugs, stalks over to inspect rust_collector's eatings
08:37:16 <Ysjoelfir> It sounds like lots of fun and struggling :) I like it
08:37:59 <T3sl4> the last win i had was weird. you know how the stealth ships don't start with shields?
08:38:14 <rust_collector> T3sl4, there is no one else awake here, so just have the rest
08:38:21 <T3sl4> rests \o/
08:38:36 <T3sl4> i didn't have enough to buy shields in the first shop i saw, the best i saw was another shield drone
08:39:08 <T3sl4> so i dragged myself through sector 4 with just two shield drones and a, i forget what else i had, hacking or cloaking?
08:39:55 <rust_collector> coating
08:40:33 <T3sl4> cloacaing
08:40:54 <rust_collector> oh, yes
08:40:59 <rust_collector> that
08:43:30 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds difficult
08:43:56 <T3sl4> nah. they're scalies, they can find a way
08:44:15 <rust_collector> this stuff makes sense...
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09:09:43 <rust_collector> bam bam bam
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09:14:04 <rust_collector> ja ja ja ja blah blah blah blah
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09:16:15 <rust_collector> the ghost of hsns old work router is full of energy today
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10:22:43 <rust_collector> splat
10:25:33 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, another colleague perhaps http://www.harerod.de/
10:29:09 <rust_collector> yes, it looks like it: https://harerod.de/mahpong/mahpong.html
10:30:28 * rust_collector is done looking at an arduino blinking a led. good night
10:31:38 <T3sl4> nightmorns o/
10:38:05 <electrohead> o/
10:41:40 <Halcyon> Morninnnng
11:07:18 * T3sl4 glomps Halcyon
11:09:14 <Halcyon> :)
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11:53:28 <Halcyon> Mind the chunky bits :P
11:56:04 <electrohead> lol
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12:03:16 <Ampera> buh
12:03:18 * electrohead films
12:03:20 <Ampera> tastes like fags
12:06:58 <Halcyon> :P
12:07:01 <Halcyon> You guys
12:07:05 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
12:11:04 <Halcyon> Not too bad thanks, just organising my collection some more
12:11:20 <Ampera> Isn't it illegal to own and collect people?
12:11:49 <Halcyon> Not if they are coloured, we still haven't passed that legislation. :P
12:12:01 <Halcyon> (I'm kidding by the way, just in case anyone thinks I'm being serious)
12:13:12 * electrohead douses himself in purple paint
12:13:19 <electrohead> there, now you can own me :P
12:13:34 * Halcyon throws a jar of glitter at electrohead before he dries
12:15:32 <electrohead> ok, now that would suck
12:15:35 <electrohead> lol
12:17:46 <Halcyon> Glitter goes fucking everywhere
12:17:51 <Halcyon> And you can never get rid of it
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12:45:19 <electrohead> yeah, fuck all that glitter noise
12:45:22 <electrohead> :P
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18:40:18 <Kuschelpony> there is stuff i never understand... like this speaker cable construction https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/368517-diy-audio-accesarry-range-driver.html
18:40:33 <Kuschelpony> or more strange the USB
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19:28:37 <Halcyon> Kuschelpony, I just used balanced audio
19:28:44 <Halcyon> Solves everything P
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19:29:36 <Kuschelpony> well... i am also a favorite of balanced, or when it has to be single ended then at least a heavy screened hard grounded coax with minimum coupling impedance...
19:30:04 <Kuschelpony> but i always wonder whats the theory behind such ehm... ununsual... contraptions
19:30:15 <Halcyon> Money
19:31:01 <Kuschelpony> in this case its an DIY forum, thats why i wonder, with commercial offers i would just have called it audiophool milking
19:33:33 <Halcyon> I hate to admit it but one of my closest friends is an audiophool
19:34:32 <Halcyon> He has this "high end" sound system with all the requisite braided cabling (including the IEC power cables), but then streams his audio from his phone via Bluetooth
19:34:36 <Kuschelpony> ouch im sorry for you
19:34:56 <Halcyon> He apparently can "tell the difference"
19:35:03 <Halcyon> Although my car stereo sounds better :P
19:35:15 <Kuschelpony> i was in a previous part of my life servicing Hifi including the ehm lets call it special gear
19:35:29 <Halcyon> Oh yeh?
19:36:23 <Kuschelpony> yeah.... XXX....
19:36:29 <Halcyon> Do tell
19:37:04 <steve30> maybe you could sell him some kind of bluetooth enhancer?
19:37:07 <Kuschelpony> i can tell you there IS stuff where you hear fdifferences from different cablings... but not because the 10k� setup is of the absolute best quality....
19:37:09 <Halcyon> Hahaha
19:38:10 <Halcyon> The thing is, most people stream highly compressed formats (including him)
19:38:15 <Halcyon> It makes zero difference
19:38:28 <Halcyon> You're better off listening to a CD on a less expensive set up
19:38:52 <Halcyon> I've tried to educate him but he believe he has a golden ear. I just let him believe it.
19:38:58 <Kuschelpony> right
19:39:46 <Kuschelpony> the problerm is, when gear is designed "minimalistic" like some advocate "every component damages the music" so they leave out all needed stuff
19:40:01 <Halcyon> I think part of the problem was, he worked in a "high end" HiFi store many years ago and believed all the marketing.
19:40:33 <Kuschelpony> and then you get recognicable distortion where every cable has its distinct loss of treble from capacitance, instability and oscilation from opamps running wild, hum and RF noise and all that
19:40:41 <Halcyon> Yup
19:40:48 <Kuschelpony> i worked in such a store as well, thats what cured me :)
19:41:01 <Halcyon> I guess you could go either way :P
19:41:33 <steve30> How much did his power cable cost?
19:41:51 <Halcyon> Oh I don't know... anything more than $5 is too much
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19:42:48 <steve30> I could sell him one of my £300 power cables which will make his bluetooths sound much better.
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19:43:18 <Kuschelpony> and dont forget to put ferrite rings around the Toslink cable
19:43:29 <Halcyon> That is extremely important
19:43:37 <Halcyon> You wouldn't want the flux to become unbalanced
19:44:28 <Kuschelpony> i remember a case where it did make an serious difference, becasuse the toislink was screened and connected in a way where the screen current did mess up the analog circuit inside the receiver...
19:44:50 <Halcyon> Who the hell would design a system like that?!
19:45:06 * T3sl4 fluxes Halcyon on one side
19:45:12 <Halcyon> Heh
19:45:13 <Kuschelpony> i cant remember the name but an shit expensive "Highend" company
19:45:14 * steve30 gold plates Halcyon's toslink connectors
19:46:03 <Kuschelpony> one like these who put vacuum capacitors "for best performance upto the nanosecond level" in an external powersupply connected to the main amp vial 2 meters of cable
19:47:01 <Kuschelpony> you cant believe that stuff until its on your workbench
19:47:44 <Kuschelpony> luckily i am now in seriuos industrial service
19:48:13 <Halcyon> :P
19:48:58 <Kuschelpony> lol: https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/uy9sbsdkxnqfcaibzqbwwukefp8-_nc_ht-scontent-ham3-1-jpg.278497/
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19:49:45 <Halcyon> Hehe cute
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19:50:35 <rust_collector> mmmmmorningzzzz z z z z z z
19:51:00 * T3sl4 pours a gallon of coffee in rust_collector
19:51:31 <Halcyon> Morning Rusticlé
19:52:08 <rust_collector> thanks T3sl4 hi Halcyon and mr pony, and so on
19:52:33 <T3sl4> the so ons
19:53:02 <rust_collector> I mean those you did not get banned
19:53:38 <T3sl4> for those did not get banned, weeee saluuuute yooooooooooouuuu
19:53:52 <Halcyon> Who got banned?
19:54:06 <Kuschelpony> -?
19:54:11 <rust_collector> I am not telling
19:54:26 <Halcyon> Okies
19:55:17 <T3sl4> it'll have timed off the list too, so you'd have to check the logs if they exist
19:56:17 <rust_collector> yes, do that "mr i have to know everything"
19:56:33 <Halcyon> *shrug*
19:56:38 <rust_collector> hah
19:57:44 <rust_collector> this was weird. I reheated the stew from last night, and now it does not taste spicy at all, it just burns a little bit
19:58:26 <T3sl4> ah yes, that happens. it means you can add more ^-^
19:58:53 <steve30> I'm going to take my Canon XL1 out with my today
19:59:02 <Halcyon> Where are you going steve30 ?
20:00:27 <steve30> sheffield
20:00:52 <Halcyon> What's there?
20:01:22 <T3sl4> steel. oh wait that was outsourced. sadness then
20:01:27 <rust_collector> old brick buildings
20:01:43 <steve30> not sure yet
20:02:18 <steve30> yes, still got to take some photographs of forgemasters for rust_collector. I'll get round to that eventually.
20:02:49 <rust_collector> start a riot, but keep your distance, and wash your hands, lol
20:03:18 <rust_collector> don't worry about that steve30, but thanks
20:03:36 <T3sl4> anarchy in the uk? say it ain't so!
20:04:08 <steve30> There's various things I keep meaning to go out and take photos of which I never get round to.
20:04:09 <rust_collector> god shaves
20:58:45 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/c3rdbux9yxj61.jpg
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22:46:46 * rust_collector is blinking a led again. thinking about what else I can do with an arduino with no usb
23:06:22 <T3sl4> why am i thinking about arduinos
23:06:46 <rust_collector> he found some in a box
23:20:34 <T3sl4> he's sorry to hear that
23:21:56 <rust_collector> he is, but meh, he should use them for something
23:22:39 <T3sl4> but yeah, they're a fine platform, for what they are. schematics are there, the chip is fine
23:23:42 <rust_collector> i have only used them for things that talk to the computer, but as I have 2 of them with a dead usb, I should find something they can do on their own
23:25:28 <T3sl4> aw
23:26:10 <T3sl4> program one as a AVR-ISP, or uh ST-Link if it's the STM32 kind (Due?), and use that to zap the others
23:27:10 <T3sl4> get a USB serial adapter and talk that way, that's what i do
23:27:13 <rust_collector> sure, but should make it do something more interesting than blinking a led
23:27:20 <T3sl4> blink two leds?
23:27:52 <rust_collector> oooh
23:27:56 <T3sl4> blink a whole lot of LEDs, maybe a display, maybe not even an led but an lcd
23:35:02 <rust_collector> otoh, I should be fixing my brakes. I have been driving to work 9 times without using them now, lol
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23:42:31 <T3sl4> engine braking is op
23:43:24 <rust_collector> yep. it is nice that it is pretty flat around here
23:45:12 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=150605709
23:45:17 <rust_collector> that looks sort of fun
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