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00:43:40 <Ysjoelfir> I feel like I have to try something like that one day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqOmo249k2A
00:53:02 <hsn> do u have any idea about the uSupply project ? Ysjoelfir
00:53:14 <hsn> its been long time .. still the page in eevblog not updated ..
00:53:23 <hsn> https://www.eevblog.com/projects/usupply/
01:00:02 <Ysjoelfir> Jep. Will never be finished because its shit :D
01:04:33 <K> why is it shit?
01:05:05 <hsn> but i like the voltage precision stuff
01:07:12 <Ysjoelfir> it was built around the LT3080 which got "enhanced" with various tricks which made it just way more complicated and unstable than it would have been when it was made with a regular power tranny instead from the beginning on. There are a few nice ideas in it which are totally fine taken by themselves, but the project as a whole is.. like.... cobbled together from and forced to somehow work.
01:07:27 <Ysjoelfir> or am I mistaken? T3sl4, how do you see it?
01:07:43 <hsn> lol: https://snipboard.io/OxkQUH.jpg
01:08:00 <hsn> yes im stalking dave now
01:09:37 <hsn> http://www.alternatezone.com/ecoteam/images/GFPDaveFenceCut60.jpg
01:11:02 <hsn> http://www.alternatezone.com/ecoteam/images/treehug.jpg
01:12:29 <hsn> why my name is in the picture name http://www.alternatezone.com/ecoteam/images/HassanDaveCacheHold40.jpg
01:12:48 <Ysjoelfir> because... erm.... things
01:13:53 <hsn> he knew im stalker
01:14:02 <hsn> so he put this picture for me
01:15:25 <Ysjoelfir> ah. yes. probably
01:16:32 <hsn> so .. this https://snipboard.io/XWwPv2.jpg ?
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01:18:35 <K> no, the one with buttons
01:18:44 <K> tenma something
01:18:53 <K> otoh tenma is not battery powered and more volts/amperes
01:19:47 <Ysjoelfir> I don't like those cheap PSUs at all... But I happened to get a TTI for roughly the same price as those two
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01:34:20 <rust_collector> kp
01:34:56 <Ysjoelfir> mornings rusty
01:36:56 <rust_collector> hoiioh
01:44:03 <electrohead> mornings and stuff
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01:44:42 <rust_collector> yup
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01:48:36 <Ysjoelfir> Mornings mr. Head
01:48:46 <Ysjoelfir> Oi! The spy timed out!
01:49:20 <Ysjoelfir> Time to secure the channel, comrade Stalin should be proud of us!
01:55:05 <hsn> Oui rust_collector
01:55:58 <hsn> Mr dave had the uSupply project with precise cc cv .. but project seems dead
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01:57:50 <Ysjoelfir> aaah, why is the T3sl4 sleeping? I'm sure he could comment on that and/or my oppinion of that :D I would love to know if I am to critical about that thing..
01:58:48 <K> maybe he is in texas and has no electricity
01:59:07 <Ysjoelfir> lol
01:59:32 <Ysjoelfir> did they forget to pay the mexicans to deliver enough power, or was it it held back at the borders wall?
02:00:23 <K> we might never know/
02:00:25 <K> .
02:03:38 * Ysjoelfir enjoys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2MxFg0NpVQ
02:07:42 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, the mexicans buy gas from the us, to make power... you figure out how that goes, when the gas lines freeze in texas
02:08:07 <Ysjoelfir> do they?
02:08:28 <rust_collector> yez
02:08:32 <Ysjoelfir> ew
02:09:46 <K> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW0JlwaHQUY&list=PL6u6wmYCBePjaJH6OR6CJtZUvERwYlk6f
02:10:40 <rust_collector> I know they have weather in texas, but my brain still thinks it is always sun and those creepy birds there
02:11:50 <K> or rather here - https://open.spotify.com/album/3TtYNPuUhChUImJ5s1sGuF as youtube upload sounds like donkey-ass 128kbit
02:18:34 <Ysjoelfir> nice :d
02:18:47 <Ysjoelfir> rusty: I thought so as well, it can have bad weather down there?
02:18:56 <Ysjoelfir> well... cold. cold is not bad imho
02:21:23 <K> quite bad if you don't have warm underpants
02:21:27 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: why u think its crap though .. like on which context
02:21:32 <K> or insulated watter pipes
02:22:00 <Ysjoelfir> hsn:
02:22:01 <Ysjoelfir> [15:07:10] <@Ysjoelfir> it was built around the LT3080 which got "enhanced" with various tricks which made it just way more complicated and unstable than it would have been when it was made with a regular power tranny instead from the beginning on. There are a few nice ideas in it which are totally fine taken by themselves, but the project as a whole is.. like.... cobbled together from and forced to somehow work.
02:22:30 <hsn> Thanks .. i was disconnected . Znc doest show
02:22:31 <Ysjoelfir> *from scrappile parts
02:23:54 <hsn> Scrapple, also known by the Pennsylvania Dutch name Pannhaas or "pan rabbit"
02:24:36 <Ysjoelfir> oO
02:26:29 <K> jst hsn doing hsn things
02:26:41 <Ysjoelfir> I see
02:27:01 <hsn> Hsn things is a word now .. lol
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03:13:33 <hsn> Konversation
03:30:35 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, yes, they have winters there
03:32:32 <rust_collector> so, dinner time! i figured I would follow the trends, and made omelet without eggs
03:32:48 <K> u wot
03:33:07 <K> pls share with us your strange savage customs
03:33:23 <rust_collector> you make omelet, but just skip adding eggs
03:33:48 <K> hm, so some milk in pan
03:34:01 <K> with maybe something added to it
03:34:01 <rust_collector> You know, like all the weird stuff that is "in" now. meat without animals, chocolate without chocolate
03:34:15 <rust_collector> i don't use milk in my omelet
03:34:20 <K> maybe cheese or bit of sausage
03:34:21 <K> oh.
03:34:33 <K> a vegan savage?
03:34:48 <K> how noble.
03:35:14 <rust_collector> whaaat? no, I have bits of meat and sausage, carrots, potatoes, peas, uhm. I think that is it
03:35:33 <K> oh.
03:35:46 <K> potatoes and peas in omelet?
03:36:02 <rust_collector> whatever you have left over
03:37:02 <rust_collector> well, does it matter? it is not fucking omelet, so I can put whatever I want in there. just like the meatless meat.
03:37:41 <K> fucking omelet.
03:42:46 <rust_collector> yes, it is omelet. just not
03:43:02 <rust_collector> because I follow the trend
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03:46:29 <K> ok.
03:47:15 <K> are there any other activities you've done in similar manner?
03:49:09 <rust_collector> i did have sex with a pile of snow one time, I am not sure if that counts
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03:57:38 <K> i'll allow it.
03:58:44 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: i think this version on the beginning of the video is good with mcu
03:58:45 <hsn> https://youtu.be/8-qar5vgnbc
03:58:53 <hsn> Wht u think
04:01:32 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: i want to build precision circuit that does provide cc cv .. banana leads .. i dont care about power waste .. just want to provide it with crappy 1-30v from smps .. and it does provide some 1-30v 1-500mA stuff
04:03:55 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, thats pretty much the micro supply thing, isnt it? (didnt look into it atm)
04:04:58 <hsn> The usupply went extreme with complications and battery thingy .. menu lcd rtc and what ever
04:05:17 <Ysjoelfir> yes
04:05:28 <hsn> I just want to have somthing near cheap bench power supply that does good cc cv
04:07:48 <hsn> And because its battery powered for that i think dave didnt want to waste 10ma on a resistor so he goes for current sink device ... and so on
04:08:15 <hsn> In my case i dont care .. its a lab thingy .. who cares it will take power
04:08:26 <Ysjoelfir> well, then build one? But why use a shitty LDO as the series regulator and not a standard transistor? there are tons of Diagrams with eg uA723. works.
04:09:31 <hsn> Yeaaaa ok i ll search for that
04:09:33 <hsn> Part
04:09:57 <Ysjoelfir> eg https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/good-quality-lm723-lab-power-supply/
04:10:06 <Ysjoelfir> (not checked, just gogled)
04:14:40 <hsn> yes thats hard for me .. but i 'll look at 723 thingy directly
04:18:06 <Kuschelpony> mmh, please excuse my negativity... but i consider the 723 to be a very bad choice for a lab power supply because it can neither go to 0V nor has it a decent current limit adjustmnent possibility, that chip is far better for a low noise fixed supply
04:21:53 <Ysjoelfir> You are absolutely not wrong with that. I suggested it mainlz because the chip is prettz easz to understand and its cheap as dirt, which is prettz crucial in Sandistan I think
04:23:33 <hsn> eazy to understand is the crucial
04:23:36 <hsn> king can pay
04:23:36 <hsn> lol
04:24:14 <Kuschelpony> i have never finished that one design, but somemwehere there is a half made circuit based on a CA3140 for voltage regulation down to zero plus current limitation through its unique "strobe" pin with an TL071 (because this one can operate in the positive rail)
04:24:18 <hsn> also did u switch ur keyboard to german again ? that Y flipped with Z .. didnt u ? :P
04:25:54 <hsn> Kuschelpony, i would love to do somthing that fits in .. say small piece of https://images.app.goo.gl/HvDQVp7SSUVZGbEy5 .. with banana leads
04:26:21 <hsn> and 2 rotary encoder knobs ..
04:26:46 <Kuschelpony> do you have an image source without google, please
04:27:38 <hsn> Kuschelpony, just small enclosure .. with "screen that shows cc cv" .. led for current limit .. and knobs ..
04:28:29 <hsn> and banana jacks .. probably 2 for inputs 2 for outputs
04:28:49 <Kuschelpony> yes
04:29:24 <hsn> the whole reason is this : https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H19128e01e0b74130a24c3482aa816a83V.jpg not trust worthy
04:29:58 <hsn> it may show u 2v while its 1.6 .. or it cant go below 0.1A .. or somthing similar
04:31:17 <Kuschelpony> yes, looks almost good for high power work, but for deliocate stuff i keep several smaller supplies
04:32:25 <hsn> meaning ?
04:34:58 <Kuschelpony> i mean, i keep several small power supplies for delicate circuits, so something where for example the maximum voltages are 2*18V and the maximum current ist 2*100mA which supply most opamp circuits
04:35:23 <Kuschelpony> but i have not yet a good high power one, thats still variac plus rectifier
04:36:44 <hsn> so its bulky ?
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04:42:27 <Ysjoelfir> its more like... to much power and to high energy delivery in case you fucked up
04:42:49 <hsn> darn
04:42:51 <Ysjoelfir> if the PSU is in itself "weak" and limited you have way less chance to fry your circuit
04:42:55 <hsn> they are bidding higher than
04:42:56 <hsn> me
04:43:35 <Ysjoelfir> I use a 2x1A PSU for most stuff, but have a tiny 18V 300mA one at my place as well, which I use for most stuff
04:44:22 <Kuschelpony> bulky and heavyweight, but good to run up big audio amps
04:44:25 <Ysjoelfir> erm
04:44:29 <hsn> is there a way to leave message for other bidders on ebay .. lol
04:44:42 <hsn> hsn: please dont make higher im poor allready https://snipboard.io/j0GxKm.jpg
04:44:44 <Ysjoelfir> most stuff that doesn't need high power or is rather delicate I meant
04:44:56 <Ysjoelfir> lol
04:45:14 <Ysjoelfir> can almost get a DS1054 for that price.
04:45:25 <Ysjoelfir> oh
04:45:26 <Ysjoelfir> not almost
04:45:33 <Ysjoelfir> you CAN get a new DS1054 for that
04:45:45 <Ysjoelfir> well, almost
04:45:47 <hsn> 50MHZ ?
04:45:48 <Ysjoelfir> kina
04:45:49 <Ysjoelfir> meh
04:45:52 <Ysjoelfir> yes
04:46:02 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.batronix.com/versand/oszilloskope/Rigol-DS1054Z.html
04:46:17 <hsn> u think 50mhz 4ch is better than 200mhz 2ch ?
04:46:35 <Ysjoelfir> what do you need 200MHy for?
04:47:03 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, imho 100MHz with 4 channels is more usefull for the stuff I do than 2ch with 200mHz.
04:47:15 <hsn> who knows .. more powerfull xD
04:47:28 <Ysjoelfir> with scopes there is an easy rule
04:47:43 <Ysjoelfir> if you don't know if you need the bandwidth, you don;t need it
04:48:29 <hsn> that thing u shared showing 450$ to me
04:48:58 <Ysjoelfir> its 315 without tax over here, and ~375 with
04:49:36 <hsn> dollars?
04:49:43 <Ysjoelfir> no, euro
04:50:37 <Ysjoelfir> bahrain doesnt have tax like we have, so they would sell it there for 315€. that is 379$
04:50:38 <hsn> anyway if someone bidded higher than me .. i 'll go to someother
04:50:56 <hsn> the shipping is good ^
04:50:58 <hsn> Shipping:
04:50:58 <hsn> $43.49 International Priority Shipping to Bahrain
05:04:25 <hsn> uA723 changes its operation from 7v to 37v output ?
05:04:48 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/CJjdc6.jpg
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05:12:12 <hsn> Reddit - ElectroBOOM - Why is my CPU not working?! https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectroBOOM/comments/ll5ml4/why_is_my_cpu_not_working/
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05:31:25 * Halcyon licks Ampera
05:36:25 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeLKhUga/
05:38:35 <Halcyon> Heheh sneaky birb
05:41:05 <Halcyon> Apart from the bird videos, I am not completely convinced that Tik Tok is full of bullshit and morons
05:41:41 <Ysjoelfir> It mostly is I think?
05:42:03 <Ysjoelfir> don't use it though, I was just given that link from mr. spouse
05:43:44 <Halcyon> *now
05:44:36 <Halcyon> I need to try your soup btw Ysjoelfir
05:45:00 <Halcyon> Anyway, time to go to work
05:46:15 <Ysjoelfir> nice :D enjoy. and enjoy work
05:51:23 <DHess_US> Found a system breaking bug in the new Windows update which is being forced. I did not expect that.
06:02:19 <Ysjoelfir> nice!
06:02:46 <Ysjoelfir> what do I have to do to not run into problems?
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06:53:41 <Ysjoelfir> Aaah, I see
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07:30:38 <steve30> o/
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07:36:45 <steve30> *purr*
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09:08:53 <MrMobodies> Hello
09:15:20 <steve30> hi
09:18:23 <MrMobodies> I ordered an air baffle from Germany for the HP G6 ML350 and looked how it arrived
09:18:30 <MrMobodies> my mum thought I brought something big
09:18:39 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/c1IGyXb
09:19:05 <steve30> hehe
09:19:07 <MrMobodies> the plastic over is only 48g and look all packaging it came in
09:19:27 <MrMobodies> I ordered about 10 batteries I think in 2012 from Conrad Direct
09:20:13 <MrMobodies> they all came in large wide pizza style boxes very long full of paper work for each one and they were bouncing around in there unsecured.
09:21:50 <MrMobodies> I also got some weights on ebay for £37
09:21:56 <MrMobodies> delivered https://imgur.com/a/gYuPEj4
09:22:22 <MrMobodies> the base was a bit wobbly and with the screws sinking in I'd thought I'd put add some washers
09:23:02 <MrMobodies> I looked around and I can mostly find the weights with the rubber on it and i know they can become sticky and horrible to use over time
09:24:03 <steve30> i should get some coffee
09:24:40 <MrMobodies> from the machine?
09:24:52 <MrMobodies> lovelly grounded up coffee
09:25:02 <steve30> from the cafetiere
09:27:00 <MrMobodies> I once been to a placed called the QEF in Leatherhead in 2014
09:27:12 <MrMobodies> and they had this coffee machine called a Tcihbo
09:27:25 <MrMobodies> with their own beans that I can see in a container ontop
09:27:27 <MrMobodies> all free
09:27:34 <MrMobodies> it was lovelly and very hot too
09:28:11 <MrMobodies> Someone asked me where can we get a good vending machine I recommded that but it was going to them about £4000 which includes a 3 years maintenance call out and parts too.
09:30:00 <MrMobodies> I am bit disappointed, I can pass through certain network cards like the Intel ET/VT but not the HP 375t
09:30:27 <MrMobodies> on the ESXI 5.5
09:40:44 <MrMobodies> Steve30? the Cafeiere at about 10:40 in the night? I didn't know with the lockdown they'll open this late
09:41:37 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Facebook have removed all news pages in Australia: https://t.co/cnwpsO3kB9 I can't blame them really, the new law is effectively extortion. Shame it had to impact the small players though even though the law was driven by the big media oligarchs.
09:44:18 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Ben Krasnow: Don't design your mahjong machine with just any old triac: https://t.co/dcaGqV4MFv
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10:32:33 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Oh sure, what a GREAT idea, lets relax the laws for public company disclosures, that won't be abused at all. :Which was quoting: ABC News: You may start seeing fewer updates from companies you own shares in. Here's why https://t.co/QYvgBj84RP
10:43:16 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Facebook banned their own page, LOL It seems that the new blanket ban on news outlets has impacted tons of sites it shouldn't. The BOM, health departments, wildlife charities etc etc. The list is huge. Even parody news site are all banned. Must be panic stations at Facebook! https://t.co/dXTmv47PMr
10:47:17 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Oops, they have banned Domain. Given that housing is the #1 religion in Australia, the backlash will be huge! https://t.co/TSmBwrhhe0
10:51:28 <steve30> My cafetiere sits in the kitchen, so i can use it any time of day
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11:34:38 <steve30> i'm just updating my website
11:37:11 <steve30> There. Nicely updated.
11:37:11 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/index.html
11:38:41 <steve30> I updated the bus complaint page. It is now ridiculously long.
11:40:51 <rust_collector> mr steve... did you change the look of your site, or do I just have a bad memory
11:45:52 <steve30> I changed the appearance a bit a few years back.
11:46:17 <rust_collector> hmm, I don't think it has been that long since I looked at it, lol
11:46:30 <rust_collector> ok, probably just a bad brain
11:47:23 <steve30> It used to have a slightly different appearance. Here is one of the old pages which didn't get updated
11:47:24 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/crt/
11:52:07 * arch locks steve30 in T3sl4's basement
12:03:19 <T3sl4> it's nice down there, i have a few CRTs yet in storage
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12:14:18 <rust_collector> why does arch have the keys to your basement, T3sl4?
12:14:38 <T3sl4> he doesn't. bastard put on a new lock
12:14:50 <T3sl4> i'd go get the hacksaw, but it's down there too
12:14:51 <rust_collector> oh, so he does
12:15:08 <arch> :3
12:25:05 <arch> T3sl4, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ZRK8YLmPc
12:27:03 <T3sl4> mmmkay
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12:55:57 <MrMobodies> since i have been using those weights I am feel a lot better
12:56:14 <MrMobodies> I don't feel tired for the first time
12:56:17 <rust_collector> whaat?
12:56:25 <MrMobodies> I brought some weights from ebay
12:56:32 <rust_collector> weights
12:56:47 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/gYuPEj4
12:56:49 <rust_collector> are you a bodybuilder now?
12:57:00 <MrMobodies> I just need to burn off some unwanted energy
12:57:08 <rust_collector> oh, those are cute
12:57:28 <MrMobodies> I added some washers on the stand as it seemed a little wobbley
12:57:38 <MrMobodies> I go them for £37
12:57:51 <MrMobodies> on Amazon I see them selling these rubbery looking things
12:58:08 <MrMobodies> by experience they can become sticky and horrible over time
12:58:18 <rust_collector> not bad, I guess. real weights are pretty expensive. and shipping is not free either
12:58:43 <MrMobodies> I could buy the metal ones but I chose plastic because I don't want to damage my workshop surfaces
12:59:16 <MrMobodies> also some of them have foam on the metal bars which I have seen crumble away in someones collection
12:59:50 <rust_collector> meh, plastic is probably fine for those little ones
12:59:53 <MrMobodies> plastic seems appropriate but when if I get into ot seriously I might consider the heavy metal ones
13:00:27 <MrMobodies> I won't be bringing the metal ones in this room, I think it could mark my workstops easily
13:00:34 <MrMobodies> if I come across some
13:01:10 <MrMobodies> that is not my workshop that is the utlity room
13:01:41 <MrMobodies> but I have some pine wood and I get a bit concerned with the scratches but I have a collection of rubber feet for that
13:01:43 <rust_collector> if the idea is to burn off energy, get a real bar and some good sized weights. do some squats. your butt and legs are the biggest muscles you have, so they can use a lot of energy
13:02:19 <MrMobodies> that'll be something to consider in time
13:03:13 <MrMobodies> I'd be much happier than going into a gym, yes they have air conditioning but sweaty people using it.... and how long do they clean the gear
13:03:56 <rust_collector> my ex used a big olympic style bar, but did not lift, but she had it on her chest, and "rotated" side to side. it did seem to do a good job on the mid section
13:04:01 <electrohead> o/
13:04:35 <rust_collector> electrohead knows how to use energy, ask him
13:05:10 * electrohead solders electrons to rust_collector's energy
13:05:31 <rust_collector> noooooo!!!! it was MrMobodies that had energy
13:06:00 <electrohead> now you have it as well
13:06:03 <electrohead> :p
13:06:10 <electrohead> what's going on and stuff?
13:06:49 <electrohead> I've been busy working a bunch down at the beer store, by next day(s) I get off, it'll be 6 days in a row working, haven't done that in some time
13:06:51 <rust_collector> eeh. not much. just got home, and ate noodles. it is 3am, so there is not very much to do
13:06:58 <MrMobodies> If you want extra electrons put the hair dryer in th bed then
13:07:17 <electrohead> MrMobodies: with water, right? lol
13:07:17 <MrMobodies> joke: that'll charge you up alright
13:07:20 <rust_collector> or bathtub
13:07:40 <MrMobodies> move around in the bed and you get lightening
13:07:50 <MrMobodies> from the static charge
13:07:58 <MrMobodies> I mean in the dark
13:08:22 <MrMobodies> It was cold but that turned out to be a mistake
13:08:27 <MrMobodies> caused me to itch all night
13:08:31 <rust_collector> neighbor has a hot tub outside, I should put a metal plate on each side of that, and see how much current they can take, before they notice
13:08:56 <electrohead> haha
13:09:01 <MrMobodies> what about getting one of those huge super capacitors, chargine one up and throwing it in there
13:09:31 <rust_collector> i don't like wet capacitors
13:09:32 <MrMobodies> I wonder can it cause them to evaporate?
13:10:04 <MrMobodies> joke: then you won't like water based electrolytics.
13:13:30 <MrMobodies> I have a question...
13:13:41 <MrMobodies> if I find buy a dead fish
13:13:44 <MrMobodies> put it in water
13:13:57 <MrMobodies> and electrify the water with mains
13:14:16 <MrMobodies> would that cause the mucsles to twitch like 50 times a second?
13:14:52 <rust_collector> i am not sure how dead muscles react?
13:29:21 <rust_collector> https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/6ex41d/would_your_body_still_twitchconvulse_from/
13:29:53 <rust_collector> yeh, always look for medical-ish things on reddit
13:31:31 <rust_collector> so, i was snooping around the kitchen, and thought I found a big bag of marshmallows, but they were potatoes. Some people should not be allowed to design packaging for certain things
13:49:57 <MrMobodies> thanks for it could twitch before the death of the muscles
13:50:58 <rust_collector> with fish being fish, maybe they react different to being dead. but I don't really think so
13:51:46 <rust_collector> but I have not noticed fish getting stiff when they die
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19:13:48 <Halcyon> Hey all
19:16:02 * T3sl4 gropes Halcyon
19:16:14 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/tv/CK4MqaYlu0m/?igshid=wuxl96ick1mb
19:16:23 <hsn> Hey bird
19:23:36 <Halcyon> :)
19:23:59 <steve30> hi Halcyon
19:24:21 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
19:27:04 * steve30 currently has no clothes on
19:28:49 <Halcyon> That's unlike you
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19:38:55 <hsn> Lol
19:41:36 <Watcher> what's lol hsn?
19:42:15 <hsn> [11:27] * steve30 currently has no clothes on
19:42:15 <hsn> [11:28] Halcyon: That's unlike you
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19:55:30 <Kuschelpony> swimmers in Texas surprised by the unexpected solid consistency of their pool water :) https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IaYQdxNDFVY/hqdefault.jpg
20:01:38 <hsn> I learned something in ebay bidding
20:01:59 <hsn> I should put my max price from first time
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20:07:56 <T3sl4> https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/error this seems appropriate here
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20:09:00 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
20:09:40 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
20:11:20 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://www.sony.com/electronics/handycam-camcorders/fdr-ax53
20:11:24 <Ampera> this is the camera I bought
20:11:35 <Halcyon> I'm ready for bed
20:11:46 <Halcyon> Ahh neat. yeh I kind of pictured one of those
20:15:24 * T3sl4 noogies Ampera
20:15:33 * Ampera noodles T3sl4
20:15:53 * Halcyon nibbles T3sl4
20:18:08 * Ampera bytes Halcyon
20:23:31 * DogWomble spaghetti westerns the channel
20:24:09 * Ampera throws a flying spaghetti monster at DogWomble
20:24:27 <DogWomble> i've been touched by his noodley appendage!
20:25:14 <T3sl4> you do like my hat!
20:25:16 <T3sl4> NYEH HEH HEH HEH!
20:26:11 * Ampera banishes T3sl4 to a universe where wearing, and then tipping, your fedora is a mandatory social greeting
20:26:42 <DogWomble> and every machine is running Fedora
20:26:52 <Ampera> oh god I'm not that cruel, DogWomble
20:27:56 <T3sl4> Ampera: hmm, even though anime is real, i feel like only half of those people would understand my references
20:28:31 <Ampera> simply be a m'lady, then everything is understood
20:35:03 <K> hello mice
20:36:27 <T3sl4> and men
20:36:37 <Ampera> the two sexes
20:39:13 <T3sl4> as the vulcans would say, infinite diversity in infinite genders
20:39:46 <Ampera> as the vulkans would say, infinite diversity in infinite shaders
20:42:23 * T3sl4 munches a veggie burger with fried onions and mushrooms
20:42:41 <K> is it cold where you are, T3sl4 ?
20:42:53 <T3sl4> was warmer today
20:42:58 <T3sl4> well, yesterday
20:43:30 <K> are you that texas?
20:43:50 <T3sl4> it was colder in parts of tx than it was here, i think
20:44:14 <K> ah.
20:45:50 <T3sl4> which is pretty amazing
20:46:06 <T3sl4> got plenty more snow tho
20:46:10 * steve30 curls up on T3sl4's lap
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20:46:40 <Ampera> supposedly we're supposed to get a pile of snow today/tomorrow
20:46:41 <Ampera> again
20:46:59 <T3sl4> get lake'd onnnn
20:47:01 <Ampera> oh to be lucky like Texas and literally have multiple days of excuses not to do any work
20:47:22 <Ampera> unfortunately our power grid is actually quite reliable
20:47:55 <T3sl4> every once in a while NYC goes down and takes down the whole quadrant, but for the most part yeah
20:48:13 <steve30> We had some power cuts the other week
20:48:50 <Ampera> not really
20:49:00 <Ampera> in my experience a NYC outage doesn't usually mean an upstate outage
20:49:22 <Ampera> usually their outages are caused by their own specific distribution having an episode
20:50:02 <T3sl4> there was the time or two where it cascaded further
20:50:23 <Ampera> I'm not decades experienced enough to tell you when that'd be, with the exception of 2008
20:50:25 <T3sl4> not often tho, decades
20:50:42 <Ampera> but that wasn't really cascaded further, more, all of NY's power distribution network got turned into swiss cheese
20:51:57 <T3sl4> think there was one in the 90s? and then 70s
20:52:23 <Ampera> let me look in a sec
20:53:20 <T3sl4> those may go away as the grid goes renewable, more redundant, and potentially less long distance transmission i suppose
20:56:44 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_1965
20:56:49 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003
20:56:55 <Ampera> bit more than a NYC blackout
20:57:05 <T3sl4> oh 60s
20:57:27 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2008_Northeastern_United_States_ice_storm
20:57:37 <Ampera> this is what I was thinking of, but it doesn't mention NYC being out
20:57:42 <Ampera> I remember this one though, we were without power for a week
20:58:03 <Ampera> an amusing anecdote about that is on day 7 we decided we had enough and wanted to go to a heating shelter
20:58:18 <Ampera> we were there for a few hours when news came in that our house might have had power again
20:58:22 <Ampera> my dad went to check, and yes it did
20:58:28 <T3sl4> woot
20:58:53 <Ampera> they actually gave all the children a book (I was a child at this point, 6 years old) and I remember that book in particular
20:59:05 <Ampera> that book was the greatest casualty of the entire storm
20:59:11 <Ampera> because within it I learned that santa claus was not real
20:59:41 <Ampera> It was some pinochio book or something, but it had a /for the adults/ section at the back of the book I read when I was bored
21:00:00 <Ampera> within it it talked about all the things adults make up for children like Santa Claus and such
21:00:32 <T3sl4> nice
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22:17:53 <rust_collector> morrr-ning
22:43:49 <hsn> morning rust_collector
22:44:53 <rust_collector> morning wood
22:47:50 <rust_collector> yaay! tractor is here, so I guess I have to go shovel more snow in a bit
22:48:28 <hsn> we dont shovel sand here
22:48:56 <hsn> enhoy
22:48:57 <hsn> j
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22:50:12 <rust_collector> he is not done yet, so I am not going out
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23:24:01 <hsn> hey T3sl4
23:24:36 <hsn> ready for my thursday question ? :P
23:25:28 <rust_collector> heh, there was a magpie that jumped off the neighbors roof, and disappeared in the snow.
23:26:14 <hsn> what is magpie
23:26:16 <hsn> cat ?
23:26:33 <hsn> bird
23:26:52 <rust_collector> a bird, I guess it is related to a crow, just a bit smaller, and more white
23:35:08 <hsn> well wife is bored
23:35:16 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/gZFNCS.jpg
23:35:23 <rust_collector> that is what wifes do
23:38:26 <electrohead> o/
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23:41:21 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
23:41:33 <rust_collector> morning
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23:50:01 <hsn> morning Ysjoelfir
23:50:30 <hsn> should normal lathe machine metal shop know about "engineering tolarances" for hole shaft thingy
23:50:42 <hsn> like "h7/g6" tolarance stuff
23:51:01 <Ysjoelfir> no idea about one in sandistan, but I would expect that in germanistan, yes
23:52:40 <hsn> is it .. like .. the operators know ..
23:52:41 <rust_collector> they better know that, lol
23:52:44 <hsn> or their supervisor
23:53:08 <hsn> because if "supervisor" then i know most shops here dont know ..
23:53:24 <hsn> if operator .. and he learned in india before coming here .. he might still have that in mind ..
23:53:47 <hsn> small shops im refering to
23:54:14 <rust_collector> well, if you put it on the specs, he better look t up, f he does not know
23:54:52 <hsn> ^ rust_collector lol
23:54:54 <hsn> no
23:54:57 <hsn> he wont
23:55:06 <hsn> and he will look at u like a freak
23:55:14 <hsn> "WTF this guy want"
23:56:04 <rust_collector> well, in that case, assume he does not know
23:56:13 <rust_collector> so why are you asking?
23:56:18 <hsn> spoon feeding .. telling him i want "12mm - 0.035mm" .. and u are lucky if he obey ..
23:57:06 <hsn> good question .. because .. if i know the operator worked before coming here to bahrain .. then there is a chance that he knows
23:57:26 <rust_collector> well, then I suggest you stick to designing something complicated, like a hammer or something
23:57:58 <hsn> but i want a sliding shaft in a hole ?
23:58:08 <hsn> im asking too much right ?
23:59:16 <rust_collector> well, you assume a machinist does not know, so design in a way you assume he can get done
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