// #eevblog — 2021-02-20
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00:00:47 <rust_collector> heh, he s in the guinness book of records, lol
00:00:56 <Watcher> what record
00:01:17 <rust_collector> of 1993 he got into the Guinness Book of World Records when he performed thirty-six times in locations from Mandal in the south to Tromsø in the north in only 72 hours.
00:03:50 <rust_collector> so, that was todays local non-news
00:07:38 <Ysjoelfir> thats... rather a good amount of performances for only 3 days
00:08:23 <rust_collector> yep. and it is.. I would say 2500km or so apart
00:08:32 <rust_collector> maybe a little bit less
00:10:25 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/a/C8pAI86
00:11:14 <Ysjoelfir> Lol, that face :D Looks simmilar to angela merkel
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00:17:59 <rust_collector> he does a passable lemmy
00:18:02 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP72p9aMG5s
00:19:24 <Ysjoelfir> indeed he does :P
00:21:16 <rust_collector> he tends to clown around a lot. ok, I am going outside, to see that part of the toyota it s that is about to fall off
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00:25:06 <Ysjoelfir> Do you ever finish with cars that disintegrate? :D
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01:10:13 <hsn> Oh its cold today
01:10:15 <hsn> Lovely
01:10:23 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/s8ewks5MFMV4pteAA
01:10:29 <Ysjoelfir> so you only have 40C today? nice!
01:10:50 <hsn> 19
01:11:07 <hsn> Very good wind
01:13:46 <K> noice.
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01:14:27 <K> https://imgur.com/a/EwZX523
01:15:03 <K> is -7C now, was like -19 in the morning
01:15:36 <Ysjoelfir> +5. way to warm.
01:15:56 <K> file a complaint!
01:18:05 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/pmwC2jAsnsqxWSTR8
01:18:05 <hsn> We never have this white ground
01:20:51 <Ysjoelfir> I love how the sky looks in sandistan. you realy see all the sand in the air
01:21:01 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, not really. I want this thing to run until 2022, because then it is 20 years old, even if it was done 5 years ago
01:21:23 <rust_collector> hsn, where is your basket lid?
01:21:38 <K> ooh, trees with leaves
01:21:56 <rust_collector> leaves? that is not very metal
01:22:29 <K> it is not
01:22:43 <K> maybe it is slightly mental?
01:23:12 <rust_collector> that is possible
01:26:19 <hsn> rust_collector: with wife
01:38:09 <hsn> if i ve an op amp that has max 5mv input offset .. can i take readings from it with known result and calibrate it once at production of the board. . Or this input offset drifts with time .. ?
01:40:59 <hsn> I want to measure current ^ 1mA = 1mV .. with 7mV os op amp. . wanted to know if this is convinent to measure without output load .. zero that value as calibration ... Or i should buy expensive op amp
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01:43:41 <K> > However, the input offset voltage value may drift with temperature or age.
01:43:49 * electrohead demands coffee
01:44:11 <K> and the next line goes > Chopper amplifiers actively measure and compensate for the input offset voltage, and may be used when very low offset voltages are required.
01:55:37 * rust_collector coffees dr head
01:55:52 * Ampera demands the heads of the nobility
01:56:01 <Ampera> no hurry though
01:56:02 * Ysjoelfir demands food
01:56:09 * Ampera demands demands
01:56:24 <K> no, denied.
02:10:22 <hsn> K .. That drift with age .. is it documented or significant?
02:10:35 <K> no idea :/
02:10:47 <hsn> Like ppm/year or something ..
02:11:37 <K> i would pick low offset opamp
02:11:51 <K> are you making million devices and each cent matters?
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02:27:00 <hsn> nah
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02:53:46 <rust_collector> hsn, I would think no
02:53:55 <rust_collector> just a feeling I get
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03:04:06 <hsn> I saw an example op amp rust_collector its was like drift 6nV per month or somthing
03:05:36 <rust_collector> ok
03:13:39 <hsn> https://www.ti.com/lit/an/sloa059/sloa059.pdf
03:13:42 <hsn> page 6 table 1
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03:18:14 <rust_collector> yeaaaaas, but it depends on how you use it, and where and stuff. but is that if you turn it on, and leave it running for a year, and is it permanent, or does it go back to what it was, if you turn it off for a week, and back on again?
03:28:18 <hsn> no idea .. but i would think its "drifting" in all cases .. turned on or off ..
03:33:36 <rust_collector> This parameter is dependent upon the heat and mechanicalstress induced on the op amp by the fabrication of the circuit board and the application circuit.
03:33:39 <rust_collector> and
03:33:56 <rust_collector> The final term is the driftover time; the drift per month is a device parameter and is multiplied by the number of monthsthe part is intended to be in use.
03:34:38 <rust_collector> i dunno, "be in use" To me, that sounds like how long it will be turned on, not the "total lifetime"?
03:35:56 <rust_collector> But I also notice that today is not a good day to try to think
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04:20:28 <hsn> Yes. . the less u think .. the less white hairs u get
04:20:38 <hsn> Happy unthinking day
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06:00:37 <Nothing\> hola
06:00:51 <Nothing\> apparently i've forgotten my pw on nickserv. Oh well.
06:01:30 <Nothing\> lol now i've angered it by borderline flooding it with attempts
06:01:55 <Nothing\> anyways, how's everyone been?
06:22:22 <Ysjoelfir> A bit meh. Have the impression I didnt manage to do much this week. also I noticed that its actually cheaper to buy a ready made gate driver IC instead of using just standard transistors to make a higher voltage driver circuit with logic input...
06:28:31 <hsn> Holy cow
06:30:22 <Ysjoelfir> right? but seriously, for a simple driver circuit that powers a non logic level low side FET from a logic level source you need a few resistors, a diode and 2 trannies. total cost for single numbers: roughly 50 cents. using eg a UCC27516 you need nothing besides that and it costs only 26 cents
06:30:33 <Ysjoelfir> and its smaller, SOT25-5 package
06:31:25 <hsn> diode and 2 trannies ?
06:32:07 <hsn> does it become pushpull ?
06:33:58 * T3sl4 pulls hsn's tranny
06:34:16 <hsn> tranny is transistor right ?
06:35:47 <hsn> T3sl4, my tranny is unipolar
06:38:20 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, that thing has 4A peak .. nice hah
06:40:52 <Ysjoelfir> nice, isn't it?
06:41:34 <hsn> yeah
06:42:21 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, 2 tranniies = pnp npn = to make push pull ?
06:43:15 <Ysjoelfir> no
06:43:32 <Ysjoelfir> This is the simplest one I ever found. (last schematic( https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/152132/level-shift-circuit-mcu-to-mosfet
06:48:15 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, thats a push pull ... no ??
06:48:45 <hsn> and the diode to make faster discharge ?
06:50:59 <Ysjoelfir> its not a real push pull imho, at least not a complementary push pull obviously^^ Also the upper tranny doesn't get the same drive signal as the lower one, which is IIRC one of the definitions for PP. its more like SRPP?
06:52:08 <hsn> srpp is my friend ..
06:52:16 <hsn> the topic i will read tonight before sleeping :P
06:52:29 <Ysjoelfir> its an interesting concept imho
06:57:45 <T3sl4> some kind of totem pole anyway
07:04:26 <T3sl4> i still have a few FAN3100s laying around, but they've been poorly available here and there, i should probably select a more popular equivalent
07:07:57 <Ysjoelfir> a bit more expensive than the TI ones I mentioned as well. I'll try the TI ones out soon, from the datasheet they seem pretty nice
07:13:34 <T3sl4> there was also a, it wasn't the FAN3100 that does it was it, maybe it was? -- anyway, fairchild had a family that's BJT boosted, they called it millerdrive or something like that
07:14:01 <T3sl4> presumably to offer better die area and cost, but maybe plain CMOS ones are just higher quantity and beat em
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08:21:44 <hsn> https://youtube.com/shorts/5YIpuRYdWX4
09:12:21 <hsn> https://youtube.com/shorts/2SBCpLH_C-g
09:12:38 <hsn> Take the wisdom even from unwise man
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09:45:10 <Halcyon> Morninnng
09:45:14 <steve30> hi Halcyon
09:45:27 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
09:47:39 <MrMobodies> Hello
09:47:58 <Halcyon> Hey MrMobodies
09:50:29 <MrMobodies> I got the cpu's today and noticed one of them had some contacts scrapped a little
09:51:15 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/QmQHDtZ.jpg
09:51:56 <MrMobodies> I don't see any scratches and marks so I thought I'd try it first before contacting the seller.
09:52:53 <MrMobodies> they worked but I came across some strange things but that turned out to be lights out. Apparently if I open ILo and look at the temperatures, then use something like HWINFO32 and select sensors then it reboots.
09:53:05 <steve30> Is the metal actually scraped off, or is it just scratched?
09:53:14 <MrMobodies> and in Vmware the temperatures won't show at the same time as when the Ilo console is open
09:53:40 <MrMobodies> when I put alcahol on it it just looks oklay
09:53:47 <MrMobodies> when it dries it looks scraped a bit
09:53:56 <Ampera> Halcyon, did that pay to link law in Australia get passed yet?
09:54:41 <MrMobodies> Maybe later I'll run a few tests that I'll leave overnight
09:59:12 <Halcyon> No idea
09:59:28 <Halcyon> Facebook is having a hissy fit about it, but now people are just leaving Facebook
09:59:29 <Ampera> I've just been reading about it and it sounds like one of the worst things someone could do to the internet
09:59:35 <Ampera> no I'm completely with Facebook
09:59:49 <Halcyon> Well so far it doesn't seem to be having the impact that companies thought it would
10:00:02 <Ampera> Even Tim Berners-Lee said it represented a threat to the original purpose of the WWW
10:00:10 <Halcyon> End users are still getting their news, albeit from various other sources. I don't think it's completely a bad thing at all.
10:00:44 <Ampera> What is defined as a news source, is there a minimum subscriber count or size?
10:00:51 <Halcyon> Perhaps so, but there are many other threats to the original purpose of the WWW, for example, people's social media profiles being deleted or banned and so on. It happens everywhere, all the time.
10:00:58 <Halcyon> I believe there is
10:01:02 <Ampera> That doesn't mean anyone should stand for it
10:01:21 <Ampera> I'm surprised Facebook doesn't pull out of Australia cold turkey, google threatened to and most certainly should
10:01:36 <Ampera> It's legislative terrorism
10:01:50 <Halcyon> But what I'm seeing is, these big congolmorates have had it too good for too long. Now, a lot of these independant journalists can still write, earn money from it and can basically write what they want since their content isn't being filtered by one of these huge news entities.
10:02:04 <Halcyon> I wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing journalists on things like Patreon
10:02:45 <Ampera> It sounds like to me it makes it far harder to be an independent journalist, as you're now forced to reach a distribution settlement for each and every single major website and search engine
10:02:59 <Halcyon> No it's easier.
10:03:12 <Halcyon> I think the threshold is something like $1M/year
10:03:27 <Ampera> threshold?
10:03:41 <Halcyon> On what is considered a news source under the legislation
10:03:58 <Halcyon> An in you and I can write whatever, post it where ever, and it's not counted
10:04:02 <Ampera> I mean, don't misunderstand me, I think the legal requirement to pay to hyperlink is unconditionally deplorable
10:04:14 <Halcyon> That I tend to agree with
10:04:19 <Ampera> The entire point of the WWW is to be able to freely link and syndicate content
10:04:24 <Halcyon> But I can't say I fully support one view or another
10:04:31 <Ampera> Is there a threshold for who has to pay?
10:04:47 <Ampera> If I were to hyperlink to a news source on my own website, would I be forced to pay for it?
10:04:52 <Halcyon> I agree with you there, but that notion has been skewed so far past the original idea that this legislation is a mere drop in the ocean.
10:05:03 <Ampera> It's more than a drop in the ocean
10:05:04 <Halcyon> I don't think so?
10:05:20 <Halcyon> Besides, the law doesn't apply to you
10:05:22 <Ampera> It's a completely tonedeaf application of completely unnecessary regulation
10:05:34 <Ampera> On the internet, all laws apply, to some degree, to everyone
10:05:49 <Ampera> that's what makes legislating the internet suck so bad, it forces people who use it across the world to take notice
10:05:51 <Halcyon> Well no, you aren't subject to the laws of the Commonwealth of Australia
10:05:57 <Ampera> I can prove this to you
10:06:08 <Halcyon> OK
10:06:18 <Ampera> if you were to visit news10.com from an EU IP, it would outright prevent you from visiting it
10:06:28 <Ampera> Same for hundreds, if not thousands of US-only media sources
10:06:29 <Halcyon> Sure
10:06:51 <Ampera> Simply because they could be liable under EU's GDPR laws for tracking EU clients
10:07:08 <Halcyon> OK but how is that enforcable?
10:07:21 <Ampera> It simply takes a legal presence in the EU
10:07:31 <Halcyon> It's the same way we aren't bound by your DMCA laws
10:07:57 <Halcyon> Sure, it might "impact" us if we were to say, upload content to a US server (Youtube) and they would be obliged to take it down
10:07:59 <Halcyon> But other than that
10:08:07 <Ampera> I'm in no favor for the DMCA either
10:08:37 <Ampera> the point I'm trying to make so is that /any/ legislation to the internet anywhere can affect other nations in unforeseen manners
10:09:05 <Halcyon> Not saying you are and I'm not comparing the two laws, I'm just saying enforcing laws across state borders can be hard enough in some instances, across international lines, it would have to be very serious (or the entity would have to have significant time and money to pursue you civilly)
10:09:26 <Ampera> It's more that it forces websites to change their operating principles
10:10:20 <Halcyon> Yeh perhaps, I don't disagree with it
10:10:37 <Halcyon> But, I think there will be some positives to come out of this, it's not all doom and gloom
10:11:30 <Ampera> I don't care, it's breaching a key tenant of common web courtesy, the ends do not justify the means
10:11:34 <Halcyon> I actually have a journalist friend, I should ask him what he thinks
10:12:09 <Halcyon> That's fine Ampera, you are allowed "not to care" but I think it would be silly to dismiss anything, just because one aspect doesn't line up with what you believe in.
10:12:24 <Halcyon> I think you should consider what impact it does and doesn't have overall
10:12:26 <Ampera> I most certainly care.
10:12:33 <Ampera> er, I see what you meant nvm
10:13:03 <Ampera> You don't fuck with freedom to speak like that
10:13:07 <Ampera> under any circumstances
10:13:21 <Halcyon> I don't think this is an attack on freedom is speech
10:13:25 <Halcyon> *of
10:13:39 <Ampera> It's a freedom of the web, one which allowed it to exist the way it does today
10:13:53 <Ampera> and web is the single greatest medium for the dissemination of speech devised
10:13:54 <Halcyon> But it doesn't exist today the way it existed 20 years ago
10:14:00 <Ampera> So?
10:14:26 <Halcyon> So, it will continue to change. It will continue to be moderated, either by corporate entities with money, government or even individuals.
10:14:41 <Ampera> It's the most bizarre concept in general, why on earth would linking to news freely be a /detriment/ to journalists
10:14:51 <Halcyon> I think the right to moderate goes with the right to say whatever you want
10:15:05 <Halcyon> Ampera: It's about money
10:15:20 <Halcyon> The big companies are bleeding, have been for a long time since people stopped buying news papers.
10:15:24 <Ampera> Of course it's about money, but it feels like robbing the rich to give to the slightly less rich
10:15:28 <Halcyon> And their paywalls don't really work
10:15:48 <Ampera> Welcome to the internet
10:15:59 <Halcyon> Like for example, on smh.com.au (one of the big two), you can simply hit escape or stop in your browser just before the paywall appears to read the whole article.
10:16:03 <Ampera> the price of information is no longer as high as it once was
10:16:28 <Halcyon> No, but those companies still have to pay for big salaries, bricks and mortar buildings etc...
10:16:35 <Ampera> I will cry zero tears if major news corporations fell
10:16:41 <Halcyon> Same
10:17:03 <Ampera> They are highly responsible for causing the serious political strife and hatred we have in the US
10:17:14 <Halcyon> But either way, all that information is all still available, that hasn't changed.
10:17:30 <Ampera> Then why did you bring it up
10:17:38 <Halcyon> Bring what up?
10:17:50 <Ampera> That this is about money for the news corporations
10:17:56 <Halcyon> Because it is
10:18:03 <Ampera> but why is that any good?
10:18:29 <Halcyon> Because it will give non-profits and independants a chance to make money on what they do
10:18:30 <Ampera> It's just threatening one corporation to pay another
10:18:33 <Ampera> How
10:19:19 <Halcyon> What do you mean how? Write independantly, link their articles anywhere they want, and charge a modest price for a subscription if they want.
10:19:28 <Ampera> and why couldn't they do that before?
10:19:50 <Halcyon> Because their bosses tell them what to write, how they write it and where it's published.
10:20:04 <Ampera> but how has that changed?
10:20:07 <Ampera> big corporations stay big
10:20:11 <Halcyon> Now that the screws are being turned on those companies, I think it will have the opposite impact.
10:20:15 <Ampera> independent journalists still exist
10:20:28 <Ampera> the screws aren't being turned on the news companies
10:20:33 <Halcyon> Well, companies like Facebook and Google have already threatened not to show their content or pay for it (Google caved in)
10:20:56 <Halcyon> But eventually, when the demand isn't there, they aren't going to pay for that shit.
10:21:01 <Ampera> That doesn't seem like the intent of the law
10:21:09 <Ampera> in fact your politicians are quite cross at Facebook for doing that
10:21:10 <Halcyon> No, it wasn't.
10:21:17 <Halcyon> But I think that's the impact it will have
10:21:25 <Halcyon> Then they will say "shit, we done fucked up"
10:21:43 <Ampera> Perhaps, but I'm hoping that's more in a politicians have learned their lesson to not fuck with forces they don't understand
10:21:49 <Ampera> sort of way
10:21:57 <Halcyon> Watch this space, I think either there will be a backflip on the legislation or companies will start to fail.
10:22:37 <Ampera> I'd rather have it happened naturally. You already said major news corporations are bleeding
10:22:39 <Ampera> let them bleed
10:23:03 <Halcyon> Well this is their idea to stop that bleed
10:23:06 <Halcyon> They've been trying for years
10:23:54 <Ampera> I think my point in all of this, if you're saying that the news is falling anyways, what is so good about this legislation?
10:24:08 <Halcyon> It's giving others a chance
10:24:24 <Ampera> instead of their inevitable failure, this presents the chance that they will take far longer to fail by sucking the blood out of more successful sites
10:24:32 <Halcyon> Of course this is my take on the issue, it's yet to be seen as it's all very new at the moment.
10:25:16 <Halcyon> As for impact on me personally, it has none.
10:25:27 <Ampera> I think ultimately it just shows as society becomes more complicated, the model of uneducated, out of touch politicians calling the shots becomes less and less tenable
10:25:36 <Halcyon> Yep
10:25:39 <Halcyon> I don't disagree with that
10:25:54 <Halcyon> Not just politicians though, those influencial people with money.
10:26:16 <Ampera> So many countries are starting to think of horrific ways to dismember and destroy the internet with insane amounts of legislation it makes any internet law another horrible thing
10:26:49 <Halcyon> Yeh good luck to them
10:27:11 <Halcyon> Society has proven time and time again that any blocks put in place don't work (or have minimal impact)
10:27:30 <Ampera> Yes, but society has a habit of learning its lessons through costly means
10:27:40 <Halcyon> Yeh we do
10:27:58 <Ampera> War may be obsolete for its original purpose in the west, but whose to say this isn't a new frontier of suffering
10:28:04 <Halcyon> Hell, the organisation I work for is run exactly like that
10:28:31 <Ampera> lol, my company is going to blanket revoke admin rights to people's work computers
10:28:39 <Halcyon> Good. So they should.
10:28:39 <Ampera> and force them to only install software from an approved list, or get it OK'd by IT
10:28:46 <Ampera> yes, but we're a software company
10:28:48 <Ampera> that makes software
10:29:04 <Halcyon> So you should know better than anyone that you can't just give end-users full access to whatever they want
10:29:10 <Halcyon> Because they will ultimately fuck it up
10:29:20 <Ampera> what sense is it to make it so developers can't install software...
10:29:35 <Halcyon> But if you need something for a legitimate purpose, you can still have it?
10:29:46 <Ampera> yes, by waiting five years for a help desk ticket to come back to you
10:29:56 <Halcyon> Oh well, that's a problem with your support process
10:30:19 <Ampera> indeed, funneling every single problem through IT is a problem with our support process :P
10:30:25 <Halcyon> But I totally agree with them. Most end-users shouldn't have admin rights. Not only just for them, but to prevent software from running with admin privilages.
10:30:57 <Ampera> yes, but how are we going to do our job
10:31:00 <Ampera> of making software
10:31:04 <Ampera> if we can't run the software we newly make
10:31:16 <Halcyon> And if you guys have SCCM, approved software can be self-installed through that
10:31:42 <Halcyon> Your software requires admin rights to run?
10:31:47 <Ampera> no
10:31:50 <Ampera> I am saying /all software/
10:31:53 <Ampera> full stop
10:32:03 <Ampera> you cannot run any software without it being OK'd by IT
10:32:09 <Ampera> either in advance or case by case
10:32:24 <Halcyon> Well that's just stupid
10:32:28 <Ampera> yes
10:32:41 <Halcyon> Pulling admin rights, that's a good thing. Whitelisting application, that's dumb
10:32:50 <Halcyon> (Unless it's for the receptionist or something)
10:33:03 <Ampera> Aye, I mean if it's for someone who would find a way to brick a toaster, fine
10:33:29 <Halcyon> Oh well, let it all crash and burn. They'll learn the hard way
10:33:33 <Ampera> but if it means when I press /build and run/ on a new VS project, and it says /you must contact IT to run this program/
10:33:44 <Ampera> Aye, I'm hoping the law of stupid ideas beget stupid consequences holds true
10:33:54 <Halcyon> You get paid while you wait for IT to fix it :P
10:34:14 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
10:34:26 <Halcyon> Did you see 8 bit guy's latest video?
10:34:50 <Ampera> On machine code?
10:34:56 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc4_PnKoea4
10:35:11 <Ampera> oh cool
10:36:24 <Halcyon> Heh "cats meowing in stereo"
10:37:19 * electrohead bops in
10:42:40 <Ampera> "Insurance is going to cover this"
10:42:43 <Ampera> lol
10:42:54 <Ampera> I wouldn't wanna work for insurance in texas right now
10:43:39 <Halcyon> Oh they will just jack up the price of premiums
10:45:02 <Ampera> In some ways I kinda wish I was down there
10:45:11 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm going to go get ready and go to the supermarket
10:45:15 <Ampera> that kinda weather is no big deal here
10:45:18 <Ampera> have fun
10:56:53 <rust_collector> aaaaand, this is the weekend..... hmmm
10:57:17 <steve30> o/
10:58:20 <rust_collector> \/\/\/\/\/ o oo o o
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11:01:16 <electrohead> \o
11:01:22 * Ampera hugs electrohead
11:01:25 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead \
11:01:34 * electrohead facehugs Ampera
11:01:39 <electrohead> I'm alright, you? /
11:01:47 <Ampera> mhhmh mhmhm hmhmhm
11:01:51 * Ampera removes electrohead from his face
11:01:54 <Ampera> I'm doing okay
11:02:04 <rust_collector> talking about the news thing, I hear canada is thinking of doing the same thing as australistan
11:02:11 * T3sl4 vibrates rust_collector intensely
11:02:17 * electrohead videotapes
11:02:47 * Ampera shoots it in 4K with his new camcorder
11:02:54 <rust_collector> that is ok, because you can not post the video before you pay
11:20:33 * Ampera shoots rust_collector with a gun
11:20:56 <rust_collector> that is still free, good job
11:28:23 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/lnqv09/just_a_cat_sunbathing/
11:39:07 <electrohead> "just chillin'"
11:43:38 <steve30> I just had a survey asking about my experience of being an inpatient at Colchester General Hospital.
11:44:29 <rust_collector> impatient
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11:55:46 <electrohead> https://gfycat.com/obviouskindinvisiblerail
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12:00:17 <T3sl4> electrohead: awesome
12:01:36 * T3sl4 draws some doodle arms on his nick, hugs electrohead with them
12:02:15 * electrohead hugs T3sl4 with doodle arms as well
12:02:43 <T3sl4> ~\o/~
12:08:25 <rust_collector> good night
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12:18:07 <Halcyon> I found some 8" floppy disks
12:22:02 <electrohead> oh damn
12:22:09 <electrohead> any nuclear codes on them? lol
12:22:19 <Halcyon> Hahaha I'd say they are blank, they look new
12:23:30 <Halcyon> I need to consolidate my old/obsolete media collection. I had discreet little trays for them, but it's wasteful. I'll combine them all into a few archive boxes of mixed items
12:24:54 <steve30> ooh, 8 inches
12:25:35 * steve30 coffees
12:26:35 * Halcyon slaps steve30 with his 8" floppy
12:28:25 <electrohead> Halcyon: do you have an 8 inch floppy drive?
12:30:10 <Halcyon> I don't
12:32:23 <damian> ;) ;)
12:32:33 <damian> i have an 8 inch floopy disk
12:32:34 <damian> shit
12:32:36 <damian> i mean dick
12:32:39 <damian> an 8 inch floppy dick
12:32:44 <damian> ok ok i'm sorry, goodbye]
12:32:47 <T3sl4> no its floopy
12:32:53 <electrohead> lol
12:33:46 <Halcyon> :P
12:34:04 <Halcyon> Joke fail
12:35:12 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon with a SCSI cable
12:35:54 <Halcyon> electrohead, I just sent you a pic ;-)
12:36:06 <Halcyon> YAY! I actually have a pile of SCSI cables sitting next to me for sorting
12:36:11 <T3sl4> mmm, all natural viennetta https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/lngr4y/snowfall_sandwiched_between_layers_of_sand_in/
12:36:20 <Halcyon> I should catalog everything I have for shits and giggles
12:39:52 <electrohead> Halcyon: oh damn
12:40:15 <electrohead> at least label everything?
12:40:25 <electrohead> that's what I did back in my lab area, fucking *everything* is labeled
12:40:27 <electrohead> heh
12:40:39 <electrohead> yeah, I went a bit overboard, but.. I'm organized for the most part, now
12:40:59 <steve30> I don't get people's obsession with labeling/catalogueing
12:41:12 <Halcyon> I mostly need to do it for home insurance purposes
12:41:13 * steve30 just sticks everything in boxes/drawers
12:41:25 <Halcyon> Right now if the house burnt down, I would have no idea what I had
12:42:05 <Halcyon> I mean, I'm not going to go to granular detail like 50x floppy disks. I'll just list them by box and come up with a rough dollar value
12:45:45 <electrohead> steve30: I like to be organized
12:46:29 * steve30 sprinkles resistors on electrohead
12:46:35 * electrohead sorts them
12:47:31 <steve30> TBH my resistors are more-or-less sorted
12:48:36 * Halcyon throws a handful of SMDs in the channel
12:48:47 * Halcyon runs
12:49:16 <T3sl4> buh
12:49:54 <T3sl4> that was weird.. internet wasn't loading for a min
12:50:16 * steve30 hoovers
12:50:24 <T3sl4> you suck
12:51:25 <Halcyon> :P
12:53:49 <T3sl4> no wonder Halcyon likes you ;)
12:55:20 <steve30> hehe
12:58:24 <electrohead> alright, closing the store, home bound in a few minutes
12:58:26 <electrohead> \o/
13:12:45 <Halcyon> YAY
13:21:29 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
13:21:36 <Halcyon> :P
13:30:59 <electrohead> /home/electrohead
13:37:08 * steve30 pets electrohead
13:37:31 <electrohead> this guy is off to bed, already
13:37:39 <electrohead> I need that thing called sleep
13:37:43 <electrohead> goodnight o/
13:42:41 <Halcyon> Night mate
13:46:34 <steve30> i think i'll go out for a walk later, since I've hardly been out this week
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13:50:03 <Halcyon> I should mow the lawns, but meh
13:50:46 <steve30> I suggest snuggling up with steve30 instead
13:50:54 <Halcyon> :P
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14:08:34 <Halcyon> Speaking of salt lick
14:17:41 <steve30> https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/19/6cm_man_vaccine/
14:17:43 <steve30> :)
14:17:53 <Halcyon> https://odysee.com/@eevblog:7/Dymo-just-want-to-watch-the-world-burn:f
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15:39:35 <steve30> I'm back from my walk. It started raining.
15:40:41 * T3sl4 hands steve30 a warm towel
17:05:52 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDGBIkJaqQ
17:05:56 <Halcyon> Those noodles look amazing
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17:30:43 <T3sl4> Halcyon: he cromch https://imgur.com/gallery/HDmR1eT
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20:41:08 <Halcyon> Aww T3sl4, he cute
20:48:57 <steve30> Apparently £210000 is being spent on a coronavirus memorial in Barnsley. The article conveniently didn't say where the money was coming from.
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21:04:34 <steve30> Halcyon, I was just investigating when this year's gay prides are. I might try and get to a few
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21:36:01 <steve30> I see two people in next doors' garden who aren't usually there. I wonder if they are having an illegal gathering.
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22:00:27 <steve30> i'm off out
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