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51:14 <rust_collector> I just checked the trailer plug on that fård, and everything is good enough to light up a 55 watt bulb, and the ground too...
14:37 <electrohead> o/
15:40 <Ysjoelfir> mornings mr. head
20:20 <electrohead> mornings
20:26 * electrohead yawns and ponders sleep again
20:40 <rust_collector> turn over to the other side first
20:59 <Ysjoelfir> Mr. heeeeeeaaad, mr. heeeeeeeeeeee-eeeee-eeeead, zoooombie, zoombie zoombie-eh-eh! Whats in your heeeeead, mr. heeeeeeeaaaaaad.... *sings*
21:09 * Ysjoelfir coughs
22:50 * Ysjoelfir hopes the reference is clear
25:51 <Ysjoelfir> if not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts
26:52 <electrohead> white zombie \o/
26:54 <electrohead> err
26:57 <electrohead> \m/
27:02 <Ysjoelfir> lol
27:05 <electrohead> I didn't have to click that link, I know that song :P
28:01 <Ysjoelfir> Today is world nutella day.
28:11 * Ysjoelfir just had a bread with Sjokade
28:17 <Ysjoelfir> because fuck nutella
29:35 <electrohead> lol
44:36 <Ysjoelfir> Roggenschrotbrot anyone? (I love how americans pronounce that word.. :D ) https://www.amazon.de/250-Roggenschrotbrot-aus-Dose-Bundeswehrproduktion/dp/B015644JY2
45:00 <Ysjoelfir> Or that one as well. https://www.amazon.de/Hartkekse-Panzerplatten-original-Bundeswehr-Produktion/dp/B0170GNC6U
55:24 <rust_collector> how about some NV produced ones?
55:59 <rust_collector> or was it NVA?
56:31 <K> VNA
56:49 <Ysjoelfir> if you mean the GDR guys it was the Nationale VolksArmee, NVA :)
56:56 <rust_collector> yez
57:18 <rust_collector> those panzercookies should be pretty tough by now
59:01 <rust_collector> kid #3 made 3 large cakes for her german class. it was some german cake. But I doubt it was supposed to be like this
59:34 <rust_collector> very hard to eat
00:18 <rust_collector> using half the sugar, and triple everything else is not a great idea for cakes, imo
00:27 <K> yesesp when you have to hold it down with both hands
00:42 <K> darn thing wants to run for the hills all the time
00:59 <rust_collector> and clamp your nose shut, to keep it from escaping that way
07:47 <rust_collector> but it s fine, it is going to school, so it will be a learning experience
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13:57 <electrohead> I reallly wish all IRC networks performed the same, at the authentatication level of nicknames/users
14:21 <electrohead> would make life waaayyyy easier, than telling a program to do something differently, depending on who/what you are connecting to
20:31 <rust_collector> yes
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22:48 <rust_collector> oh good, he was here long enough to put on my ignore list this time
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32:51 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: can't say i didn't sing along after just the first few words, glad to see that was, in fact, the intent
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37:14 <guest012> Hello
37:15 <EEVBlog> Hello there, guest012!
38:36 <guest012> I am sorting power resistors into E-series E6 categories (1.0, 1.5, 2.2, 3.3, 4.7, and 6.8). If I have a value such as 2.7 ohms, would you put that into 2.2 or 3.3?
40:01 <electrohead> for my bins, I just have ranges on the labels
40:17 <guest012> oh
40:21 <electrohead> so anything between, say for example, 1 Mohm and 5 Mohm, would go in that bin
40:28 <electrohead> KISS - keep it simple, stupid
40:35 <electrohead> I live by that motto, lol
40:51 <guest012> good idea. thanks!
41:01 <electrohead> no problem :)
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47:29 <arch> soooon...my uc3843 lab test fixture pcb will be complete. MWAHAHAHA
47:50 <arch> then i will tinker with it and learn a lot
47:58 <arch> MWHAHAHAA
50:43 <arch> and then i think i will make a 555 timer charge pump pcb and see if i can light up a VFD
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37:14 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Sweety
41:25 <arch> T3sl4, have you made an arc speaker? like the ones you can make with a flyback trafo from TV and feeding in a modulated 555 timer sig through a preamp?
41:34 <T3sl4> sorta
42:26 <T3sl4> nothing very impressive, but yeah, it's a thing that exists
42:31 <arch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzND4EF1XIo
44:24 <arch> one wrong move and he's toast
45:19 <arch> probably smells like ass in that room now with the nitrous oxide and whatnot
45:50 <T3sl4> my understanding it's better with corona than arc
36:56 <arch> it's never better with corona =(
43:11 <Kuschelpony> i disagree, these speakers work only with the arc
43:22 <Kuschelpony> and yes they fil lthe room with a sharp smell
43:54 <Kuschelpony> its nice to play with for a curiousity phase, but not much more
45:08 <arch> you could capture the fumes and turn it into nitric acid hehe
46:24 <Kuschelpony> thats how they did it in the past, its just inefficient
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18:28 <Nothing\> hello hello hello
18:28 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Nothing\!
18:37 <Nothing\> hey there, robut
18:59 <Nothing\> I'm guessing you're the only one around
19:14 <Nothing\> i think your creator needs to make you more interactive when this place is idle
19:18 <Nothing\> give me something to talk to
19:41 * Ampera smacks Nothing\ 
20:04 * Ampera smacks Nothing\ harder
20:21 <Ampera> hit and run then :/
20:57 <T3sl4> oh hey Nothing\
21:00 <T3sl4> *hugs*
21:07 * Ampera hugs T3sl4 
21:30 <T3sl4> wb Ampera, how are you?
21:40 <Ampera> immensely stressed
21:43 <Ampera> but better than I was
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22:06 <Ampera> I finally managed to get a new prescription of HRT drugs, which will likely help soften my mood
22:33 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera and T3sl4 
22:34 <Nothing\> <3
22:38 <Ampera> Horrible things have happened within the past few days in my family, my grandfather is being evicted by my aunt
22:39 <Nothing\> that's awesome Ampera
22:41 <Ampera> his own daughter
22:50 <Nothing\> aww fuck dude, i'm sorry
22:52 <Ampera> lol
23:05 <Ampera> on my screen your "that's awesome" appears right after I say my grandfather is being evicted
23:07 <Nothing\> it's horrible when families fracture like that
23:30 <Ampera> It's an interesting situation. He lives within my aunt and uncle's house, and has a signed five year lease for it
23:49 <Ampera> but my aunt, who actually has both bipolar and schizophrenia, is kicking him out proper
23:53 <T3sl4> yeah, i can see why that would be a source of stress
24:01 <Ampera> with a get out date of some time mid-march
24:03 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
24:11 <Ampera> <3
24:41 <Ampera> In general it's been an overwhelmingly stressful past few months, with serious problems happening on all fronts of my family, and me effectively being stuck dealing with it
24:57 <Ampera> during a pandemic, and during the most politically stressful point of my nation in the past several decades at least
27:20 <Ampera> However, I've lasted through years of nonstop stress, and I still have some energy to handle it left, wain as it may
27:44 <Ampera> it actually took me a few minutes to look up how to spell wain, with google's inbuilt definition being appropriately unhelpful
27:56 <T3sl4> i thought it was wane
28:11 <Ampera> it is
28:22 <Ampera> I tried every spelling but that :P
28:26 <Ampera> should have used falter instead
28:44 <Nothing\> ah sorry, i had a phone call
28:51 <T3sl4> clearly it should be weighn
28:56 <Ampera> honestly I blind guessed it was spelled weign
28:59 <Nothing\> i finally reported my therapist to my probation officer at least and she's passing the complaint on to her manager
29:08 <Ampera> Excellent
29:53 <Nothing\> and i'm definitely going to file a formal complaint with the College of Registered Psychotherapists of Ontario, which is the organization that oversees their licensing and disciplinary action and basically anything else to do with it
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30:09 <Nothing\> likewise we have a college of physicians and surgeons that does the same for doctors,
30:20 <Nothing\> and one for dentists, and a few other things
30:29 <Ampera> I'm going to file a complaint with the life department, and requisition a return and replacement for mine
30:43 <Nothing\> man, if only, huh?
31:27 <Nothing\> that's all aweful Ampera
31:32 <Nothing\> awful, i should
31:33 <Nothing\> say
31:47 <Ampera> I wonder if to be full of awe is the origin of the term awful
31:59 <Ampera> it is
32:01 <Nothing\> i've had my family fracture multiple times and it's never easy, especially in the moments leading up to it when you know it's coming. That anticipation can be worse than anything
32:16 <Ampera> This would be a family fracture if I still considered my aunt and uncle family
32:20 <Nothing\> lol Ampera i was actually just thinking the same thing
32:27 <Nothing\> i think what you're thinking of is awesome
32:38 <Ampera> there are some impressive lines that can be crossed, but my grandfather is immunocompromized and on a fixed income
33:02 <Ampera> for them to illegally evict him at this point for literally no reason is a crime against the family.
33:11 <Nothing\> my mom's ex's brother is in a similar situation
33:57 <Ampera> and while that's happening, my dad's girlfriend's elder daughter is supposedly being kicked out by her boyfriend, so I may get even more strange people living in my house :/
34:39 <Nothing\> he was renting an apartment with a friend of his, and just after he (the brother) had a quadruple bypass, his friend died. And since his friend was the only one on the lease, the brother got kicked out and had nowhere to go
34:48 <Ampera> But, I have the opinion that to get what is good in life, one must accept and deal with great suffering, and I may end up particularly well off by the end of this year
35:18 <Nothing\> so my mum's ex had to pull some strings with his retirement community and have them allow his brother to stay with him until he can at least find a place
35:24 <Nothing\> but i mean, his brother can't even look after himself
35:44 <Nothing\> but at the same time, he's a very aggressive and challenging type of person. Not at all the type that would get on well in a retirement community
36:13 <Nothing\> i mean, these are the sorts of people who complain to the landlord if you go in and out of the apartment too often
36:24 <Nothing\> or if you move some furniture into your apartment
36:34 <Nothing\> they're busy-bodies with nothing better to do, basically
36:43 <Nothing\> and the landlord takes all of their complaints seriously
36:47 <Nothing\> he's just as bad
37:26 <Nothing\> like, when i was staying there, I had 5 complaints against me within the first week of living there. Mostly for "moving all sorts of stuff in."
38:18 <Nothing\> The neighbour even called the cops on my brother, my nieces and I claiming that we did some spray paint grafitti that was years old.
38:53 <Ampera> what do you expect from people with nothing to do with their time and no reason to live anymore
39:02 <Ampera> the most dangerous person is one who has nothing to lose
39:03 <Nothing\> exactly
39:11 <Nothing\> amen to that
39:36 <Nothing\> though frankly, to me the most dangerous person is myself.
40:34 <Nothing\> there was a good quote from a game about that, actually. I think.
40:49 <Nothing\> a game i recently played, sorta like the Stanley Parable, if you've ever played that.
40:56 <Nothing\> by the same guy
41:12 <Ampera> Yes I have played the stannel parachable game
41:23 <Nothing\> yeah, this one's just as good, if not better
41:28 <Nothing\> it's called... lemme see
41:39 <Nothing\> The Beginner's Guide
42:08 <Nothing\> basically goes through a bunch of small games a programmer made and explores what the games say about him, his mindset at the time, what sorta person he is, and stuff like that
42:19 <Nothing\> it's all fictional, of course. But still an interesting narrative.
42:49 <Nothing\> though as far as i can tell, it's more linear than the stanley parable
43:08 <Nothing\> but definitely worth playing, if you enjoyed the stanley parable
43:30 <Nothing\> or another interesting one I came across is called superliminal
43:57 <Ampera> in other news my singing voice is getting stronger
44:06 <Ampera> I can manage to sing an entire song without it snapping the fuck in two
44:06 <Nothing\> nice
44:21 <Nothing\> you been using any sort of online coaching or anything like that
44:25 <Ampera> nope
44:30 <Nothing\> or is that from the hormones do you think?
44:34 <Ampera> I've been playing songs in one ear and listening to myself sing in the other
45:00 <Nothing\> though from what i understand of how hormones work in terms of your voice is that they only stop your voice getting deeper, they don't actually make it less deep
45:01 <Ampera> hormones have no effect on the voice (for post pubescent men on estrogen),
45:09 <Nothing\> precisely
45:29 <Ampera> What stops the voice from getting deeper is the drug which prevents the creation of testosterone
45:40 <Nothing\> that's why they'd make singers into eunuchs before they hit puberty
45:42 <Ampera> Mostly it's been practice that's helped, along with me having taken up running
45:47 <Ampera> Aye, the castrati
45:57 <Nothing\> which, i read about the process they used to castrate them
45:59 <Ampera> an excellent example of why hormone blocking drugs should not be given to kids
46:05 <Nothing\> and it was horrifying, to say the least
46:18 <Ampera> best I know they get them hammered and just cut it off
46:42 <Nothing\> nah, they're liquored up and then their balls are crushed manually by hand
47:04 <Nothing\> which i would imagine would leave a lot of damage behind that would probably cause lifelong pain
47:18 <Ampera> ah right
47:20 <Ampera> I recall that
47:53 <Ampera> Reminds me of an article I read recently where an infant was accidentally drowned while being baptized in an orthodox church
48:06 <Nothing\> or I remember reading about a group of monks who practiced castration. Their process was they'd just cut everything off. frank and beans and all. And then put a plug of some sort in the urethra and the person wasn't allowed to urinate for 3 days
48:19 <Ampera> I guess that just means god made a mistake in letting the kid be born
48:42 <Nothing\> and at the end of the 3 days, they'd remove the plug and either they'd be able to urinate afterwards. Or the swelling and inflammation would be so severe that they couldn't urinate and they would ultimately die of a ruptured bladder.
49:01 <Ampera> leave it to you to take a disgusting topic and one up it :P
49:21 <Nothing\> haha yeah, that's me. a social retard if there ever was one.
50:09 <Nothing\> I remember once sitting with my roommates and landlord (who was around my age) at one point playing GTA IV and I for some reason mentioned how russia's one of the largest producers of cp in the world and they all just looked at me like "wtf is wrong with you?"
51:41 <Nothing\> or when I was a kid, maybe 7 or 8, i was playing video games with a (male) friend of mine and suddenly whipped out my erect dong and started playing with it like it was a joystick
51:51 <Nothing\> i have no idea wtf possessed me to do that
52:26 <Ampera> hornt
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02:07 <Nothing\> no, it wasn't sexual
02:24 <Nothing\> i just had a random erection and always found it amusing to pretend my penis was a joystick
02:35 <Nothing\> i just have no idea why i decided to do it in front of one of my friends lol
02:55 <Nothing\> thankfully he moved a short while later, but I'm sure that's a memory he still has to this day.
42:11 <T3sl4> Halcyon: stupid birb https://i.imgur.com/oUDvHBw.gifv
42:57 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HguKPVgIZL8
47:48 <electrohead> o/
58:39 <T3sl4> it offends be that he can't pronounce th
59:05 <T3sl4> the shouting however is probably correct and so i taken't issue with it :)
59:20 <T3sl4> also s/be/me/
04:36 <steve30> mmm, coffee
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20:26 <Halcyon> Morning all
20:43 <Halcyon> YAY Ampera is back
22:12 * Halcyon sneezes on Ampera, followed by a hug
23:37 <steve30> hi
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24:19 <Halcyon> Hey Steve. hey Ed
24:25 <ed_kloonk> hey
25:15 <ed_kloonk> what's happening
25:36 <Halcyon> I just woke up :P
25:38 <Halcyon> Having coffee
25:47 <ed_kloonk> I woke up years ago
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34:47 * electrohead hugs Halcyon
36:27 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: First test of my new DIY PCB light box. No internal reflection added yet, so still shadowy https://t.co/43GG6QMbOX
38:26 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon, followed by a cough
40:08 * steve30 is wondering whether to go out
40:14 <T3sl4> don't. it's cold
41:22 <steve30> Maybe I should make the effort, given that I've hardly been out for two weeks.
46:15 <T3sl4> maybe tomorrow i'll put on fleeces and have a nice walk
48:37 <T3sl4> doing exercises indoors is the better plan for now
55:43 <ed_kloonk> what is exercise?
56:50 <rust_collector> eeh. uhm.. errr... I have no dea
57:37 <rust_collector> Oh
57:52 <rust_collector> I looked it up, and we much never talk about that again
59:43 <ed_kloonk> hehe
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01:33 <Halcyon> I'm playing around with HAproxy
03:04 <rust_collector> ok
03:59 * rust_collector is eating wienerschnitzel. 
04:04 <Halcyon> Yum
04:09 <rust_collector> I guess we have to skip dinner tomorrow
13:35 * rust_collector is also eating a slice of pizza he found
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14:10 <Halcyon> rust_collector, you make it sound like it fell down behind the back of the couch or something :P
14:40 <rust_collector> mmh, not the sofa, so it has to be something
14:50 <Halcyon> Classy
15:29 <rust_collector> I remember that time when I tried the couch. it was not bad
31:59 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7eHTNm1YtU
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30:24 <Halcyon> Coffee creamers are weird
30:33 <rust_collector> yes
31:31 * electrohead looks around
32:28 * Halcyon pokes electrohead in the eye :P
35:35 * electrohead uses the other eye to look around
35:38 <electrohead> :P
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52:11 <Halcyon> Welcome Tw|tch, many nerds here
52:57 <Tw|tch> 'ello~
52:58 <electrohead> :O
53:02 <electrohead> He's here.
53:18 <electrohead> Tw|tch is a fellow nerd like the rest of us :D
53:19 <arch> i think i have too much water in my replenished ferric chloride + hcl + cucl + cucl2 mix. is it a good idea evaporating it or does it make nasty fumes?
53:34 <electrohead> arch: ehh, nasty fumes indeed
53:39 <Halcyon> Just shake it up and see what happens arch :P
53:42 <electrohead> lol
54:14 <arch> electrohead, what if i put it on the stove at the lowest setting?
54:29 <arch> instead of outright boiling
54:32 <Halcyon> Would you want to cook food in it afterwards?
54:39 <rust_collector> it will probably get warm?
55:12 <arch> i mean i have it in an erlenmeyer flask, it's pyrex, and i've tested it out before on full blast so it can def handle the heat
57:03 <Halcyon> I'll drop out shortly, just updating the firmware on my router
57:12 <electrohead> arch: heat will help for sure, just make sure it's under a fume hood, for safe keepings
57:26 <rust_collector> just take it outside?
57:27 <arch> i dont have a fume hood, but ill point a fan out the window lol
57:36 <electrohead> is this in your house?
57:38 <electrohead> ;o
57:56 <rust_collector> if you just reat, have fun
58:00 <rust_collector> rent
58:08 <electrohead> lol
58:24 <arch> or the really slow method is to bubble air thru it. that only evaporates like 10mL a day, damn slow
59:01 <arch> meh, i guess i can wait 2 weeks for it to go down 140mL. works for me. better safe than sorry :D
59:06 <electrohead> do you have a hot plate/magnetic stirrer combo unit, by chance?
59:13 <arch> nope
59:18 <rust_collector> make one?
59:27 <electrohead> either make one, or purchase one, well worth it
59:34 * electrohead looks at his
59:44 <arch> i'll probably buy a broken one off ebay for cheap and fix it up
00:58 <rust_collector> I get a feeling that would not be a good idea. it is such a simple device, that if it is broken, you will probably have to buy a new one to fix it
01:13 <rust_collector> I have been wrong twice before, but...
01:51 <arch> are those chinesius $100 hotplate stirrers any good? im inclined to think no
02:44 <electrohead> arch: they aren't too bad
02:53 <rust_collector> I have no idea. but I find that most chinese things do work just fine, as long as you do not care about safety or extra features
03:02 <electrohead> I got a chinesium-ish model, and it hasn't broke, yet
03:08 <electrohead> had it for a few years, now
19:41 <Halcyon> BRB
20:00 <rust_collector> again?
20:09 <Halcyon> Need to reboot the router
20:16 <rust_collector> again?
21:09 <rust_collector> you were talking about that 20 minutes ago too?
21:36 <rust_collector> I guess you have to keep it up to date
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24:46 <arch> goddamn, why do these cost so much? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corning-PC-420-Hot-Plate-Magnetic-Stirrer/363283595289
26:16 <arch> if im gonna buy a hotplate, it's not gonna be the chinesium ones. shitty ass wattage
26:49 <rust_collector> just run it on 240v, good enough wattage
28:07 <electrohead> https://www.ebay.com/itm/85-2-Magnetic-Stirrer-With-Heating-Plate-Digital-Hotplate-Mixer-Stir-Bar-1000ml/132735966703
28:12 <electrohead> this is the one I have
30:00 * steve30 returns from outside
30:07 <steve30> I didn't get a single drop of rain :)
30:08 <arch> "Works well. Slow to heat. Takes about an hour to get to 100C."
30:49 <arch> im fine with paying the $220-250 for a name brand, well built like a tank hotplate
31:45 <rust_collector> if you don't need the stirring thing, normal hotplates should be very cheap
32:36 <arch> if im gonna get a tool, im gonna spend good money on it and get it right the first time
33:15 <electrohead> arch: mine doesn't take *that* long to heat up
33:30 <electrohead> I did take it apart, and had to fix something
33:52 <arch> 10" x 10" ceramic top, Temperature range: 25 - 550°C, Stirring range 60 - 1100 rpm
33:54 <electrohead> I forget exactly what I had to do, but after that, I never had a problem with it
34:06 <arch> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corning-Laboratory-Hot-Plate-Stirrer-PC-101-120-VAC-1320-Watts-50-60-TESTED/
34:29 <electrohead> "Looks like this page is missing"
34:38 <arch> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corning-Laboratory-Hot-Plate-Stirrer-PC-101-120-VAC-1320-Watts-50-60-TESTED/303873476518
34:41 <arch> there u go
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40:16 <electrohead> wb Halcyon
40:35 <Halcyon> :)
41:02 <steve30> hi
41:41 <electrohead> hey steve30
58:21 * steve30 foods
10:26 <arch> T3sl4, electrohead i make dis design today. i'll etch it tomorrow: https://imgur.com/a/KINEg2l
15:45 <coppice> "Would you like to come up and see my etchings" :)
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56:58 * steve30 puts the heating on
57:01 <steve30> I'm cold.
59:14 <Halcyon> How's your air con going steve30
59:24 <steve30> good
59:32 <steve30> Its blowing out nice warm air :)
07:23 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon 
10:21 <Halcyon> Silly cat
12:15 <Halcyon> date
12:22 <Halcyon> Disregard, wrong window
13:00 <rust_collector> I figured you were talking to hsn. he is always talking about dates
13:16 <rust_collector> unless he is talking about cookies
13:24 * steve30 is available to be taken on dates
24:10 <coppice> steve30: I had some red dates earlier
50:11 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: A few tweaks and the DIY light box is looking really nice. Still not optimised, could get even better with a simple change I'm sure. https://t.co/kd3AGI5Zf4
54:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Is there a person alive today that would be the smartest person in this room? :Which was quoting: Physics In History: Physics Photo Of the Day: Niels Bohr, Werner Heisenberg and Wolfgang Pauli discussing quantum mechanics, 1938. https://t.co/Poy2Z7mYev
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12:13 <ed_kloonk> I finally made a big decision today
15:36 <steve30> what did you decide?
16:48 <ed_kloonk> after many years of watching other people do it
18:12 <ed_kloonk> are you ready for the big announcement?
22:37 <steve30> yes
23:05 <ed_kloonk> I gonna go dual monitor on the desktop
29:05 <Halcyon> I ditched dual monitor for 4K
29:59 <ed_kloonk> oh damn. I hope I don't have to have second thoughts on my decision
30:04 <Halcyon> :P
33:57 * steve30 is still quite content with his single 1920*1200 display
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35:26 <ed_kloonk> biggest problem to solve is cleaning the bench to make room
00:39 <steve30> i might have another cup of coffee, then I'll get on with fixing my Canon XL1
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24:46 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Magic show time at the Opera House https://t.co/OvOO22eaQX
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18:09 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
18:15 * Ampera kisses Ysjoelfir 
18:34 <Ysjoelfir> Sweetheart!
18:51 * Ampera pipes Ysjoelfir's statement to /dev/fuckno
18:59 <Ysjoelfir> lol
34:56 * T3sl4 puts a plate of assorted cheeses into the channel
35:15 <Ampera> I actually bought a log of cranberry coated goat cheese, flavored with cinnamon
35:17 <Ampera> have yet to try it
35:30 <Ampera> I've been finding, though, that I'm getting far warmer to various sorts of cheeses than I used to be
35:41 <Ysjoelfir> woah, cheese!
35:50 * Ysjoelfir eats it all in a second
36:20 * T3sl4 sticks a cracker in Ampera's log
36:38 * Ampera jacks T3sl4's cracker
36:54 * T3sl4 barrels Ampera
37:13 * Ampera fires T3sl4 
37:27 <T3sl4> get muzzled
37:46 <Ampera> don't be nosy
38:43 <T3sl4> just sniffing around
43:57 * Halcyon sniffs T3sl4
44:08 * T3sl4 poots
44:12 <Halcyon> Ew
44:32 * Ampera snaps Halcyon's lower left arm right hte fuck in two
44:33 * Halcyon nibbles on Ampera's creamy log
44:38 <T3sl4> i had hummus the other day, enjoy :)
44:43 <Halcyon> Why would you do that twice?
45:15 <Halcyon> "The other day"? How slow are your bowels T3sl4 ?
45:58 <Ampera> Halcyon, I snapped your lower right arm previously
46:02 <Ampera> now your lower left is snapped as well
46:04 <T3sl4> um, average? usually takes about 4 hours for fermentation to begin, continuing in stages for the next 24hr or so
46:27 <Halcyon> My left arm is my favourite
46:31 <Halcyon> It's my masturbating arm
46:40 * T3sl4 twists one of Halcyon's broken arms
46:54 <Halcyon> Bitch
47:09 <Ampera> I've eaten almost all my biltong
47:39 <ibiza> anyone using a heat pump on their pool ?
47:54 <Ampera> I think a better question would be if anyone even has a pool
49:30 <Halcyon> ibiza, I don't have a pool but my parents do
49:36 <Halcyon> They use solar heating
49:59 <Ampera> Halcyon, when I end up making more (it takes a long time to make) would you like some biltong?
50:06 <Halcyon> Yes
50:16 <Halcyon> I would absolutely like some of your meat in and around my mouth
50:26 <Halcyon> What have I been saying this whole time?
50:56 <Ampera> some weird australian shit nobody can understand
51:14 <Halcyon> Oh that's right, everything is upside down and backwards
51:25 <Ampera> shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkZd2lBQb2c
51:56 <Halcyon> Oh by the way Ampera, that guy I linked you to the other day who you said you couldn't stand because he was whiney and gay
52:05 <Halcyon> Turns out, you were right, he is a giant homo
52:18 <Ampera> gaydar wins again
52:22 <Ampera> though that describes a lot of people
53:13 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVH7U8gu1fM
53:30 <Ampera> HE LOOKS LIKE YOU
53:35 <Ampera> just younger and gayer
53:37 <Halcyon> Fuck off
53:44 <Halcyon> You are the second person to say that today
53:49 <Ampera> HAHAHAHAHAHA
53:55 <Halcyon> No, seriously
54:26 <Ampera> speaking of which, I finally got more gay pills
54:44 <Halcyon> You just want to be part of the cool group :P
54:48 <Halcyon> But yes, I saw
54:50 <Ampera> no I want to die
55:06 <Ampera> but unfortunately I'm as lazy in death as I am in life, so it'll never happen
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55:25 <Ampera> It wasn't easy to get them, and for no good reason either
55:36 <Ampera> had the appointment with the pp clinic, they made me wait 2 hours for a five minute consultation
55:38 <Halcyon> Because 'Merica ?
55:42 <Ampera> no
55:47 <Halcyon> Because assholes?
55:55 <Ampera> because people with legs for arms and arms for legs
56:09 <Halcyon> It's good to have you back Ampera
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56:13 <Ampera> not really
56:19 <Ampera> I imagine this place was much nicer with me gone
56:27 <Halcyon> You're wrong
56:55 <Halcyon> Ask Ysjoelfir
56:58 <Ampera> oh well, can't always be right
57:04 <Ampera> He's a German, his opinion is null and void.
57:23 <Halcyon> I thought his opinion mattered most to you?
58:05 <Ampera> Opinions don't matter, they're just people being creatively wrong
58:13 <Halcyon> I'm learning about your cell networks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6X_1PcR_gs
58:54 <Ampera> ah yeah
59:38 <Ampera> some really innovative stuff done by those communists over at bell labs
59:48 <Halcyon> Communists?
59:55 <Halcyon> Because they aren't ATT ?
00:02 <Ampera> huh?
00:05 <Halcyon> AT&T
00:09 <Ampera> AT&T and Bell Labs were part of the same company...
00:14 <Halcyon> Oh right
00:32 <Halcyon> So why are they communists?
00:47 <Ampera> no, they were incredibly rich monopolists that got rich off providing a service to the people, and then abusing their monopoly to give that service to the people
00:55 <Ampera> just like real communists
01:11 * Ampera accepts a gold medal in mental gymnastics
01:18 <Halcyon> What about the competition?
01:38 <Ampera> there were only two companies in the US which provided independent phone service, and both were also partially owned by Bell Telephone
01:53 <Ampera> Cincinnati Bell, and Southern New England Telephone co.
04:14 <Ampera> The breakup of Bell Telephone was one of the greatest anti-trust shatterings of the 20th century, with effects and descendants seen to this day
04:46 <Ampera> Verizon, AT&T (which used to be SBC, sort of), all sorts of other companies were all parts of RBOC's that got split up
05:55 <Halcyon> Right
08:49 <Ampera> The history of the cellular networks, however, are actually considerably unique in a lot of ways, primarily with most of it having taken place after bell split up
09:06 <Ampera> so there were never really single major monopolies as far as I'm aware (at least not for very long) past AMPS
09:25 <Halcyon> These ATT videos are amusing
09:28 <Ampera> there's some diverse lineage of mobile providers, and a lot of regional specific providers, US Cellular being a good example
09:50 <Halcyon> e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVRL4UcT1sQ
09:55 <T3sl4> we're overdue for another trustbreakening
10:11 <T3sl4> much of the telcos have merged together again
10:59 <Ampera> I'd say the biggest and baddest trusts are the cable co's
11:22 <Ampera> AT&T is most certainly quite large, and quite shit, and should be on the list too
11:53 <Ampera> but Comcast holds impressively tight grasp on the internet access for the entire nation
12:03 <T3sl4> yep, cable has migrated its offerings significantly towards what used to be telco
12:24 <T3sl4> all the most reason we need net neutrality and other things strengthened at the fcc and others
12:41 <Ampera> One thing that should be banned is the ability for jurisdictions to make infrastructure exclusivity agreements with single tel/cable co's
12:57 <Halcyon> I'm torn... whilst our cellular network (and some fixed line networks) are owned by individual companies, our internet infrastructure mostly isn't
13:07 <Halcyon> It's a shared medium owned by the Government
13:18 <Halcyon> Which works better *shrug*
13:21 <Ampera> Albany is stuck in the stone ages because they've told Verizon they can't install fiber there, so Spectrum (formerly TWC) has all the business
13:35 <Ampera> so while almost everywhere else has FttP, you have ADSL and DOCSIS in Albany
13:45 <Halcyon> Our cell network is by far faster than out fixed wire services in many areas, even faster than residential fibre
14:18 <Halcyon> Hundreds of Mbps or even Gbps is not unusual in metro areas
14:48 <Ampera> I can get anywhere from 100-500Mbps down on sub-6 5G most places around here
15:22 <Ampera> I've yet to see a place that has mmWave 5G, but in theory T-Mobile provides it, and my phone can receive it
15:43 <Halcyon> It's coming
16:15 <Ampera> I think people bang the mmWave drum a bit too hard. I think it'll be great for directional point to point systems, but is laughable for anything else
16:25 <Halcyon> Yep
16:40 <T3sl4> and then a rainy day hits
17:12 <Halcyon> Well presumably fixed P2P systems could fall back to other (lower) bands?
17:39 <T3sl4> presumably you're not going to be getting all the bandwidth, all the time
17:42 <Ampera> why would they, the lower bands are excellent for omnidirectional systems
17:45 <T3sl4> that would be one way
17:52 <Ampera> if by lower you mean sub 6 stuff
18:07 * T3sl4 deep 6's Ampera
18:11 <Halcyon> Well mainly because not all P2P solutions will have line of sight
18:18 <Halcyon> Quite common on cellular networks
18:32 <Ampera> then, it's just a normal cellular network...
18:39 <Halcyon> Sure
18:39 <Ampera> if you don't have line of sight, mmWave is near useless
18:45 <Halcyon> Yep
18:56 <Ampera> unless you can get a bounce in just the right way, holding your head at 90 degrees, having eaten a special mix of herbs and berries, and standing on one toe
19:01 <Halcyon> But I would think that those on 5G would operate on either (like your phone)
19:49 <Ampera> That's how it's shaping up, but I think most cellular telcos are going to eventually stop caring about it for anything besides 5GttP
20:38 <Ampera> and with LEO sats being a thing, I'm thinking even that's gonna be a prospect with quite a bit of competition
20:52 <Halcyon> I agree
21:09 <Halcyon> I think things like Starlink will directly compete with our NBN Satellite
21:19 <Ampera> the NBN has satellite?
21:24 <Halcyon> Yep
21:34 <Ampera> presumably a geostationary sat
21:36 <Halcyon> For remote areas without fixed wireless
21:38 <Halcyon> Yes
21:57 <Halcyon> But from early reports Starlink uses CG-NAT, so no different to cellular networks.
22:22 <Halcyon> In fact, you're better off on cellular here as you get public IPv6 addresses on most carriers.
22:32 <Ampera> I'd imagine startlink offers IPv6
22:34 <Halcyon> Just depends on where you are and what your coverage is
22:35 <Ampera> *starlink
22:39 <Halcyon> Apparently not yet
22:45 <Halcyon> The Beta is only IPv4
22:46 <Ampera> well it is in a public beta
23:07 <Ampera> I can't wait for IPv6 to finally take off
23:09 <Halcyon> They would *have* to offer IPv6, they would be dumb not to
23:15 <Ampera> it's closing in on 25 years later :P
23:41 <Ampera> Let's just hope they do it /right/ and offer subnets and not single IP's
23:57 <Ampera> I don't imagine they would do it like a cellular network like that, but IPv6 NAT would be such a hilarious disaster to see
24:13 <Halcyon> There is no point in ISPs offering single IPs on IPv6
24:19 <Halcyon> They would have to be retarded
24:37 <Halcyon> I get 2 ranges a /64 nd a /56
24:53 <Ampera> I have a /48
25:19 <Halcyon> They could literally piss away IP addresses and no one would care
27:09 <Ampera> I'm just hoping Verizon comes and gets us IPv6 soon, and it's not too shit
27:18 * Halcyon sneezes in Ampera's direction, with a cloud of mist
28:05 * Ampera vomits down Halcyon's eye-holes
28:14 <Halcyon> Spicy
30:21 <T3sl4> ooh, fresh eye holes
30:25 <T3sl4> spicy kind too
30:56 <Halcyon> Don't even think about it T3sl4
31:25 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mX70Al43v6xDWapOYLx8qXwlpA3ZYnSXY
32:52 <Halcyon> Mmmmm I like "Chicken Head"
33:44 <Ampera> Everything Affair is my favorite
35:18 <Halcyon> Yeh I could easily listen to that
52:49 <Halcyon> I actually really like that album
52:54 <Halcyon> *downloaded*
00:19 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: How do they "confiscate" the bitcoin? All he needs is the paper seed backup hidden somewhere and it's his again, right? :Which was quoting: Reuters: German prosecutors have confiscated more than $60 million worth of #bitcoin from a fraudster. There’s only one problem: they can’t unlock the money because he won’t give them the password. @johnodonnell21 reports https://t.co/weuOUzqL62 1/4 https://t.co/E
01:10 <Ysjoelfir> :O Halcyon, you bad bad pirate! I should report you to the police! ;P
01:53 <Ampera> the police already know
02:07 <Ysjoelfir> I am pretty sure about that, yes :P
02:09 <Halcyon> It's not against the law to download copyrighted material in this country :P
02:15 <Ysjoelfir> :O
02:19 * Ampera inquires about Halcyon's seed box
02:31 <Ysjoelfir> lemme just quickly pack my stuff and move to stralia
02:37 <Ysjoelfir> oh wait. its warm there, isn't it?
02:45 <Halcyon> Also... it's availble for free: http://maltinerecords.cs8.biz/release.html
02:48 <Ampera> I believe 50C temperatures are not unheard of in many parts
03:00 <Ysjoelfir> ew
03:14 <Ampera> would you rather have our -30C temperatures?
03:15 <Halcyon> 50C is infrequent and in the middle of the desert
03:24 <Ysjoelfir> yes, Ampera
03:27 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds nice
03:48 * Ampera strips Ysjoelfir naked, pours water over him, and freeze-sticks him to a big metal wall
04:08 <Ysjoelfir> that, however, doesn't sound nice.
04:38 <Ampera> that frost, man, it bites
05:08 <Ysjoelfir> I can immagine
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06:56 <Halcyon> But yeh, our courts have determined that downloading/torrenting (provided you don't share) does not amount to stealing nor is it an offence under the Copyright Act.
07:06 <Halcyon> Sharing and distributing however is
07:18 <Ampera> in the court of the crimson king
07:26 <Halcyon> So, just be a leecher and you're fine :P
07:45 <Ampera> aka be a sucka
07:52 <Halcyon> Pretty much
08:28 <Halcyon> But even breaches of the Copyright Act aren't criminal offences. The Copyright holder has to sue you personally under civil law and prove losses.
08:42 <Halcyon> The whole Dallas Buyers Club saga was an example of that
09:04 <Halcyon> Soooooooooo many people downloaded that movie after it made the news (including me)... and have never watched it
09:09 <Halcyon> Just for shits and giggles
10:02 <Halcyon> It remains on my Plex server to this day, unwatched, just because I can :P
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