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00:29:09 <electrohead> oh, that many days?
00:29:12 <electrohead> guh
00:29:19 * electrohead takes one, anyways
00:29:25 <Ampera> about as much, maybe more because I've packed it quite tight
00:29:33 <electrohead> that's what she said
00:29:34 <Ampera> it needs to completely dry all the way through
00:29:41 <Ampera> haha
00:29:50 <electrohead> :p
01:16:14 <hsn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement
01:16:19 <hsn> Fck my life
01:17:54 <electrohead> :D
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02:42:57 <Kuschelpony> lol: W5M the amplifier that you can use on both sides of the equator
02:57:37 <K> u wot
03:00:31 <Kuschelpony> a joke for the australians, "down under", just read the type number upside down and its the same
03:01:57 <K> oh.
03:02:06 <K> a solid dad-joke contender!
03:04:27 <Kuschelpony> hmm?
03:08:49 <K> nvm, im just tired and a tad irritated
03:09:23 <K> some ass decieded to smoke in the office garage and ventilation dragged it in :/
03:16:06 <Kuschelpony> today i learned:
03:16:26 <Kuschelpony> i have a crappy 7� USB soundcard with noisy output
03:16:52 <Kuschelpony> there were two unpopulated places for capacitors so i soldered 100nF on them
03:17:09 <Kuschelpony> result: the noise stayed the same, the music was gone
03:17:52 <Kuschelpony> seems to be more like a place for emc filtering and not for supply decoupling
03:18:23 <Kuschelpony> anyway, its back to be as crappy before now
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03:32:17 <hsn> http://www.astralinux.ru/
03:32:58 <hsn> Dimitrov
03:39:21 <K> Kuschelpony - what kind of noise?
03:40:34 <Kuschelpony> hiss and 1khz pulses from USB data packets
03:41:44 <hsn> sound type noise ?
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03:41:54 <hsn> some coil is vibrating ?
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03:43:04 <Kuschelpony> oops, literally pulled the power plug as well...
03:45:36 <K> tried usb cable with ferrite thing?
03:45:45 <K> i had similar issue with mic adapter
03:46:06 <K> helped a bit
03:47:46 <Kuschelpony> no, its not that kind of RF problem, just the usb soundcard itself has practically no filtering, i had bought the bottom end but did not expect it to be SO bad
03:48:05 <Kuschelpony> was just the only thing i could get last week in a food shop as we are still in lockdown
03:48:50 <Kuschelpony> as far as i know its a cm108 clone in COB blob, and built to absolue minimum withoput any decoupling
03:49:32 <K> ah.
03:49:58 <Kuschelpony> on the NF amplifier side i did good filtering around the TPA3118 boards, thats absolutely clean and even the weakest FM radio stations do not get additionally disturbed
03:51:49 <Kuschelpony> something tickles me to design some own good board for an usb DAC, but i have already choosen to fill this year with non-electronic projects
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04:19:33 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
04:19:45 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
04:20:12 <Kuschelpony> good evening
04:20:54 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir how are you doing
04:20:57 <Ampera> hi TheDude how are you doing
04:21:02 <Ampera> hi Kuschelpony how are you doing
04:21:27 <Ysjoelfir> Mornings Ampera, I'm happy, my Hurdy Gurdy DIY Kit is being processed and being shipped soon
04:21:49 <Ampera> you're building a hurdy gurdy?
04:21:51 <TheDude> hey, good
04:22:03 <Ysjoelfir> Yes
04:23:53 <Ysjoelfir> first a DIY kit one (check out nerdygurdy.nl ) and I also ordered the book "Build wooden instruments with handtools" (free translation by me, its a german book), which also describes building one from scratch, which will be the long long long term goal. but I would like to learn playing, and there the nerdygurdy seems to be pretty good for the price
04:24:37 <Ampera> that's neat
04:26:15 <Kuschelpony> Ampera, still writing some messages to distant friends elsewhere, but soon going to bed early today, i do not have that much motivation for anything significant today anymore
04:27:04 <Ampera> That the kind of depressed, melancholy defeat that resonates deeply within my soul.
04:27:06 <Ampera> Have fun with that!
04:27:48 <Kuschelpony> mmh, im not sure if you have read my older postings today
04:27:49 * electrohead burns Ampera's soul
04:28:04 <Ampera> electrohead, what soul
04:28:20 <electrohead> oh oh, my bad, it's burned up already
04:28:23 <electrohead> :P
04:28:33 <Ampera> I'm not sure it ever really existed
04:28:46 <Kuschelpony> i choosed to fill the year mostly with non-electronic projects, beeing more on a tour to explore more of myself and go out into the world in crazier ways
04:28:48 <Ampera> even if it did, all I know is I'm not human
04:29:20 <Ampera> An eccentric year of self-discovery sounds like a great thing for covid to shit on
04:29:24 <Kuschelpony> doing bigger electronic projects feels the last few years barely anymore satisfying
04:30:02 <Kuschelpony> yes, a mix of self-discovery, trying to explore more of direct physical exploration and feelings
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05:25:10 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.ebay.de/itm/Fighting-Force-PC-BIG-BOX/254867586621?hash=item3b574abe3d:g:G60AAOSw~xRgKSau Damn, I wonder if I can even play that with those strigt requirements printed on the box
05:25:44 <Ysjoelfir> *heavy reqs, don't know what I had in my mind with that word
05:26:13 * T3sl4 reqs Ysjoelfir
05:26:27 <Ysjoelfir> damn
05:33:25 <Halcyon> Morning all
05:33:36 <Halcyon> I'm not a bear Ampera :P
05:33:42 <T3sl4> requisition me a hug
05:33:51 * Halcyon hugs T3sl4
05:33:54 <Ampera> Halcyon, yeah, I guess I thought you were a cooler gay than you actually were
05:33:56 <Halcyon> I'm tired
05:33:56 <T3sl4> \o/
05:34:10 <Halcyon> Hahah, you know what a bear is don't you? :P
05:34:10 * Ampera hugs Halcyon with caffeine pills
05:34:14 <Ampera> yes I do
05:34:23 <Halcyon> I have coffee, just waiting for it to kick in
05:34:38 <Ampera> I've been waking up with 100mg caffeine pills every morning now and they are quite nice
05:34:55 <Halcyon> Yep
05:35:04 <Ampera> in other news, I think the one thing I hate the most about Windows is simply how hard it is to package some fucking software for it
05:35:07 <Halcyon> I actually like the taste of coffee, which is why I drink it
05:35:10 * T3sl4 gives Ampera some pain pills
05:35:17 <Halcyon> I prefer bitter/savoury to sweet
05:35:19 <T3sl4> they're pain pills. they give you pain
05:35:24 <Ampera> I don't like hot drinks in general
05:35:32 <Ampera> but coffee gives me severe nausea
05:35:35 <Halcyon> You could be a hipster and drink cold brew?
05:35:39 <Ampera> like I'll be wishing I could vomit all day
05:35:45 <Halcyon> But you need good coffee for that
05:45:34 <T3sl4> why wish? eat a broccoli
05:45:52 * electrohead offers rice and eggs
05:46:46 <spark_gap> does anyone know why PIC18 is a weird thing
05:47:17 <T3sl4> yes
05:47:53 <spark_gap> cannot do rotate right through carry normaly
05:48:19 <spark_gap> sometimes unexpected results
05:48:51 <electrohead> what exactly is it doing?
05:49:22 <spark_gap> 0xFE -> RRCF -> sometimes result is 0xFF
05:49:39 <spark_gap> instead of 0x7F
05:49:55 <T3sl4> and carry was clear?
05:50:00 <spark_gap> this is driving me crazy
05:50:07 <spark_gap> yes i set carry clear
05:51:10 <spark_gap> does not matter ones or twice before operation
05:51:56 <spark_gap> also i BANKSEL to the register i am doing rotate right operation
05:52:22 <spark_gap> still getting same results
05:52:41 <electrohead> do you have another PIC18 to test it out, on?
05:54:03 <spark_gap> yes but perhaps will need to desolder current one from board
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05:59:38 <electrohead> shit :/
06:01:06 <hsn> What do u guys think of thunderf00t channel guy
06:01:08 <hsn> https://youtu.be/4TxkE_oYrjU
06:02:51 <T3sl4> he's ok... on the more sensational than even-handed side of debunking tho, i think
06:10:58 <spark_gap> BANKSEL STATUS
06:10:59 <spark_gap> CLRF STATUS, C
06:11:09 <spark_gap> how to properly clear carry flag? i do this way
06:11:30 <Ysjoelfir> ~Did you try turning it off and on again?
06:13:29 <spark_gap> BCF STATUS, C works
06:13:46 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: now u sound like my telecom company asking me to restart router and wait
06:13:47 <spark_gap> CLRF was wrong way of doing it
06:13:50 <hsn> XD
06:14:53 <spark_gap> I was messing with this pic18 for two days
06:15:20 <spark_gap> makes me wanna attach dynamite to it and repair this way
06:15:26 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kRFwxzUJymRdQib3A
06:15:38 <hsn> spark_gap: lol i know ur feeling
06:15:40 <Ysjoelfir> Did you consider swapping the Pic with an Atmel?
06:15:59 <spark_gap> yes, on my net project
06:16:05 <spark_gap> next*
06:16:43 <hsn> spark_gap: did u try microchip customer support
06:16:47 <hsn> Its useful
06:16:54 <spark_gap> :D
06:16:56 <spark_gap> well
06:17:06 <spark_gap> they say "just read the datasheet"
06:17:10 <spark_gap> :D
06:17:27 <spark_gap> I mean i do read the datasheet
06:17:29 <Ysjoelfir> Is it? My only experience with those clowns was when I asked for a datasheet for something they asked> well, look in the datasheet.
06:17:31 <hsn> I did few submit a ticket and get useful info ..
06:17:34 <hsn> From them
06:17:43 <Ysjoelfir> *they answered I mean
06:17:56 <spark_gap> tried to register on their forum
06:17:58 <spark_gap> no luck
06:18:00 <hsn> One of them was a bug in their ASF library
06:18:49 <Ysjoelfir> I won't even try. when they bought atmel they fucked up so many links on the atmel site I don't think it would be worth the effort
06:18:58 <spark_gap> they just not sending me activation email when i am trying to register on their forum
06:19:23 <spark_gap> and they not responding my emails
06:19:31 <hsn> I didnt do the fourum but actual support ticket
06:20:26 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: yeah that is annoying
06:20:41 <hsn> Some links have w3schools lol
06:23:50 <spark_gap> searching for alternatives is also hard, when i just want simple MCU to control few relays, and dont need no ADC DAC, USART, nothing
06:24:16 <Ysjoelfir> atmega48 is cheap and works fine, despite having ADC, USART and whatnot.
06:24:21 <spark_gap> just simplest mcu with enough pins and ram and eeprom
06:24:24 <Ysjoelfir> alternatively attinys
06:24:57 <spark_gap> i never like complexity when not needed
06:25:16 <spark_gap> also pinout sometimes sucks
06:25:30 <steve30000> I did a little video project on my PowerMac G4. Its currently rendering at 3fps
06:29:05 <spark_gap> i see 16F59 never dying
06:29:38 <spark_gap> would be nice to find something like this but with deeper stack
06:33:47 <Ysjoelfir> steve3000000000000, you might want to build a cluster with 200 of those >D
06:34:36 <steve30000> I think I'll set up an emulator on my modern machine.
06:35:10 <steve30000> Although it was quite pleasant editing a video in OS9 with a 21" trinitron monitor and a nice 14" CRT preview monitor.
06:37:28 <Ysjoelfir> I always wanted to have two of those nice professional sony 21" trinitrons
06:40:17 <Ysjoelfir> Profile Visibility
06:40:17 <Ysjoelfir> Because you haven't earned money on Upwork in a while, we set your profile to "private."
06:40:17 <Ysjoelfir> If you want to switch your profile back to "public," either start earning again, sign up for a Freelancer Plus Membership, or contact customer support.
06:41:02 <Ysjoelfir> are they fucking kidding me? How can I do anything against NOT EARNING some money in a while? Should I go to some random guy and FORCE him to pay me!? Idiots... lets see what mr. cuystomer support says
06:46:53 <steve30000> Do they expect you to earn money with your profile hidden?
06:47:52 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: lol, wtf .. i never earned a project with these ppl ..
06:48:12 <hsn> So i expect im tagged "expiring soon" ? Lol
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07:28:15 <DogWomble> Yeah, those sites can be difficult to get yourself noticed on
07:29:14 <DogWomble> I did try and utilise Fiverr at some point to see if i could earn a bit of pocket money, you've basically got a saturated market of people doing a race to the bottom so trying to make yourself seen can be tough going
07:41:27 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that :D
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07:51:58 <Dmitry_Farad> hi all ^)
07:52:15 <steve30> hi
07:53:51 <Dmitry_Farad> how are you doing?
07:54:12 <Dmitry_Farad> how was valentine's day?))))
07:57:30 * steve30 gives Dmitry_Farad a smooch
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07:59:55 <Dmitry_Farad> fair
07:59:57 <Dmitry_Farad> )
08:04:12 <Ysjoelfir> Hi mr. Faraday
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08:09:33 <steve30> Here's today's video
08:09:34 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwm9TpyoQAU&feature=youtu.be
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08:10:05 * Ysjoelfir puts that into his watchlist for tomorrow while working
08:10:18 <Ysjoelfir> how long did it take to render now?
08:11:45 <steve30> Not sure actually as I went and got my dinner while it rendered
08:12:11 <Ysjoelfir> ah, ok
08:13:59 <steve30> It looks better on my 14" CRT video monitor than it does on a PC tbh
08:14:33 <Ysjoelfir> thats obvious, the camera was made for those resolutions
08:14:42 <Ysjoelfir> its like watching a Laserdisk on a UltraHD TV
08:18:07 <steve30> I did export the video back to tape so I can go and watch it on our fancy TV downstairs and see what it looks like on that
08:18:56 <Ysjoelfir> you should get one of those rewritable laserdisc things and write that onto that. that would be cool
08:19:13 <Dmitry_Farad> what is the frame rate in the video?
08:21:04 <Dmitry_Farad> do you shoot videos in the old format?
08:25:32 <Ysjoelfir> He's RetroSteve, he does as most retro stuff as possible :)
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08:34:49 * Ysjoelfir prepares the stapler for the next guest
08:36:13 * T3sl4 hides Ysjoelfir's stapler in the basement "office"
08:36:41 <Ysjoelfir> damn!
08:37:41 <T3sl4> steve30 irl https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/lkea24/a_short_story/
08:46:04 <Ysjoelfir> https://ccdworldspecializes.wordpress.com/2015/05/29/the-panasonic-gp-mf-602-camera-is-perfect-of-clicks/ wtf.... who wrote that shitty text
09:00:00 <coppice_> T3sl4: that's only part of a story. someone paused it
09:00:28 <T3sl4> maybe they needed a still, to order prints
09:03:18 <Dmitry_Farad> guys, how are you with the weather?
09:03:45 <Dmitry_Farad> we have an apocalypse, snow is fucked
09:04:09 <Ysjoelfir> a mix of hail and rain... at roughly +-0... no thanks. I would prefer snow.
09:06:02 <T3sl4> a dusting of snow here, and from yesterday
09:06:12 <Dmitry_Farad> the snow also fucked up. and sometimes it sweeps the door
09:06:25 <T3sl4> got a good uh, 15cm or so a few weeks ago, been pretty chilly since (-18C ish)
09:06:36 <T3sl4> apparently -14 today
09:08:25 <steve30> Dmitry_Farad, that video is 50 interlaced fields per second, which I deinterlace to produce 50 frames per second for computer/youtube viewing.
09:08:33 <Dmitry_Farad> dude, we now have -13 feels like an asshole
09:08:59 <steve30> It was nice and warm here today, after a freezing weekend.
09:09:31 <Ysjoelfir> send some of that over, Dmitry_Farad. sounds blyatiful to me
09:09:50 * steve30 paws at T3sl4
09:09:57 <Dmitry_Farad> It's very warm here, too, after -40, we are in siberia in the center of russia
09:10:15 <T3sl4> yeah, that'll do it
09:10:31 <Dmitry_Farad> Who are the guys from?
09:10:37 <Ysjoelfir> oy blin, -40, nice! I would love if it would get cold here some day..
09:10:44 <T3sl4> i know a few ppl in saskatchewan where it gets about that cold, don't think it's ever been that cold here at least
09:10:57 <Ysjoelfir> Germanistan here.
09:12:08 <T3sl4> trumpistan here
09:12:52 <Dmitry_Farad> Germanistan where is it?
09:12:55 <Dmitry_Farad> )))))
09:13:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Wow, he even sounds like him! :Which was quoting: Mikes Electric Stuff: Is this Photoniconduction's kid brother..? https://t.co/VdVSFTcaOJ
09:14:29 <Ysjoelfir> germanistan is the big-ish thing in the middle of europe
09:15:39 * steve30 is getting "brain zaps" again :/
09:15:48 * Ysjoelfir pets the steve
09:16:04 <Dmitry_Farad> iam is russianistan )))
09:17:56 <Dmitry_Farad> I'm from the city of Krasnoyarsk, where there is no air and they process nuclear waste)))) I have 3 hands
09:21:18 <T3sl4> i guess there are some plusses
09:21:22 <T3sl4> positrons for instance
09:21:40 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
09:21:56 * steve30 purrs at Ysjoelfir
09:22:02 * Ysjoelfir pets the steve
09:24:35 <Dmitry_Farad> how are you doing with the radiation situation?
09:26:33 * Ampera is from cuomostan
09:26:44 <Ampera> a very disparate place with an impending ice storm
09:26:45 <Ampera> yay
09:31:07 * T3sl4 winterizes Ampera
09:32:15 * Ampera ices T3sl4
09:32:32 <Ampera> iced, smoked, and served for a summer picnic
09:32:43 <T3sl4> \o/
09:32:48 * T3sl4 feels beautiful again
09:33:44 <Ampera> again?
09:33:54 <Ampera> y/n should I pay 220 bucks and buy a 1TB uSD card for my phone
09:34:52 <Dmitry_Farad> what for?
09:34:55 <Ampera> ech, I don't think I will. It's so tempting because it's fucking cool, and because I could store my entire movie collection on it
09:35:12 <Ampera> buuuuuut, I'm also not in favor of just flushing 220 bucks down the drain like that
09:35:49 <Ampera> I'll just get a 512GB one which is much cheaper, and I can probably store most, if not all of my collection on my phone after that anyways
09:35:53 <Ampera> or at least everything I care about
09:36:32 <Ampera> 823G in total is my video collection it seems
09:37:54 <steve30> that reminds me, i need new HDD/SSDs
09:42:21 <steve30> I must say I like the GUI of Adobe Premiere 6 better than that of Kdenlive. Premiere also comes with a nice detailed printed manual which explains just about every function in detail.
09:42:57 <steve30> Of course Kdenlive has the advantage that it can work with just about any format, including modern ones.
09:47:59 <Dmitry_Farad> How does Kdenlive work on weak systems?
09:49:02 <steve30> I used to use it on my Core2Quad and it was fine; but it depends on what you are editing.
09:49:40 <steve30> If you are editing DV it will be dead easy. If you are editing Full HD 60fps h264, then it will struggle.
09:50:27 <Dmitry_Farad> щл
09:50:29 <Dmitry_Farad> ok
09:53:41 <Dmitry_Farad> What time is where you are right now?)
09:53:57 <Dmitry_Farad> I have 6:00 in the morning
09:54:09 <steve30> 22:54
09:54:37 <Ysjoelfir> 23:54
09:54:51 <Dmitry_Farad> and where are you from?)
09:55:01 <Ysjoelfir> as stated before
09:56:02 <Dmitry_Farad> ok
09:56:21 <steve30> England
09:56:48 <Ysjoelfir> You mean Not-anymore-EU-Land?
09:56:55 <steve30> yup
09:57:05 <Dmitry_Farad> how is the weather in england? how about the rains?
09:57:51 <Dmitry_Farad> no. iam from Russia, from sibiria Krasnoyarsk
09:58:23 <steve30> It was below 0 over the weekend, and we had snow last week.
09:58:45 <steve30> Today it is 12C and sunny. Its forecast to be approx 10C all week.
09:59:38 <Dmitry_Farad> I envy you very much)))
10:01:49 <Dmitry_Farad> please tell me how are you doing with the legalization of marijuana?
10:02:39 <Ysjoelfir> I dunno. If they do I don't care and wouldn't approove at all
10:02:57 <steve30> Well, I think it is legal for medical use if you are prescribed it by a doctor (it would have to be a specialist).
10:03:26 <Ysjoelfir> THAT is true for here as well, and the only use case I agree with that should be legal
10:04:45 <Dmitry_Farad> 79 / 5000
10:04:46 <Dmitry_Farad> Результаты перевода
10:04:52 <Dmitry_Farad> yes, I agree with medical use, as cancer patients, we are completely prohibited
10:05:15 <steve30> There's this thing, which is for people who use it illegally for a medical condition
10:05:16 <steve30> https://www.cancard.co.uk
10:05:40 <Dmitry_Farad> however, it is better to use marijuana than alcohol, it is much better
10:08:37 <steve30> I've never used it so wouldn't know
10:09:23 <Dmitry_Farad> better not try)
10:15:14 <Ysjoelfir> I once "sucked" on one joint. Puked mz brains out. will never ever touch that horrible stuff again
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11:13:23 <rust_collector> mornings!
11:13:26 <rust_collector> !!!
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11:16:34 <electrohead> !!!
11:17:21 <rust_collector> YAAY!
11:17:31 <rust_collector> horrible greetings, electrohead
11:17:45 <electrohead> horrible indeed
11:17:47 <electrohead> lol
11:17:49 <electrohead> hey
11:18:44 <rust_collector> is it time to play videogames?
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11:25:20 <DogWomble> it's always time to play videogames
11:26:00 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:26:08 <rust_collector> heey!
11:26:33 <MrMobodies> talking of video games might be able to play them on the virtual machines now I got the passthrough working
11:26:34 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/MACcPXM
11:26:59 <MrMobodies> Only needed parameters to get the VGA passthrough working
11:27:28 <MrMobodies> hypervisor.cpuid.v0 = FALSE
11:27:28 <MrMobodies> pciPassthru.use64bitMMIO=”TRUE”
11:27:28 <MrMobodies> pciPassthru.64bitMMIOSizeGB = “64”
11:27:45 <MrMobodies> the last two I came across from hours of searching
11:28:00 <MrMobodies> I was getting very tired and I was about give up yesterday
11:28:06 <electrohead> what model thinkpad is that?
11:28:14 <MrMobodies> W700
11:28:25 <MrMobodies> from 2008 or so
11:29:02 <MrMobodies> served me very well over the years
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11:29:48 <MrMobodies> Dave shown a video of one that was thrown away I think and that had good cooling too
11:30:01 <MrMobodies> that's why I chose it for the cooling
11:30:16 <MrMobodies> I think it cost me about £2400
11:30:31 <MrMobodies> but the first one had to go back 6 months later
11:30:59 <MrMobodies> anyway I want to get it working in the linux virtual machines
11:31:10 <MrMobodies> the VGA passthrough
11:33:20 <MrMobodies> also it didn't require EFI for the Quadro K600 or this FX3800
11:36:02 <DogWomble> hmmm anyone here know much about 3D printing?
11:36:21 <DogWomble> i've had someone pose a question as to whether there's an affordable 3D printer that can do 45x45x45cm as a minimum size
11:36:59 <rust_collector> nope. I know I end up looking at 3d printers every 14 days or so, before I remember that I can not think of anything I want to print
11:38:53 <Dmitry_Farad> rust_collector hi man) how are you?)
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11:38:58 <rust_collector> but. i think that would be hard to find. I would guess the budget version would be to buy a cheap smaller one, and build a bigger one, and use the small parts to move it around? I do not think I have seen a 45x45 printer
11:39:28 <DogWomble> aah fair enough :0
11:39:30 <rust_collector> hey Dmitry. I just got home from work, and I am installing a pizza in my belly
11:39:36 <DogWomble> you can tell i havent' acutally looked at 3d printing much at all :P
11:40:13 <rust_collector> Not really me either. I just see what they have for sale, then remember that I don't really want one
11:40:29 <Dmitry_Farad> not bad, I would also throw pizzas right now)
11:41:11 <rust_collector> it is not the worst breakfaast I have had
11:42:26 <rust_collector> DogWomble, what is the guy going to print that is 45cm each way? I hope he has a LOT of time. and don't need much sleep, for the 3 days his print will take
11:42:44 <Dmitry_Farad> I drink cognac and drink cola, this is my breakfast))))
11:42:56 <DogWomble> yeah, i'm not sure what he's printing yet :)
11:43:29 <rust_collector> cognac and coke. that is some capitalist spion stuff
11:44:31 <Dmitry_Farad> I'm not a spy)))) I just drink cognac)))) I have a day off
11:44:48 <rust_collector> that is what they always say
11:47:56 <Dmitry_Farad> do you have a video chat zoom? let's talk live? though I don't speak English very much
11:48:55 <rust_collector> nope. I do not talk much at all, lol.
11:49:43 <Dmitry_Farad> ok i'm trying to practice english))
11:50:27 <Dmitry_Farad> do you speak Spanish or Italian?
11:50:46 <rust_collector> uhm, no. I barely speak norwegian
11:51:35 <rust_collector> italian? have you noticed that italian is sort of almost similar to romanian?
11:52:20 <Dmitry_Farad> ok, I would also like to practice Norwegian)
11:52:47 <rust_collector> but, whyyyy? that makes no sense.
11:52:53 <Dmitry_Farad> yes there is
11:53:32 <Dmitry_Farad> well, yes, I understand it))))
11:55:34 <rust_collector> now, if you fix the weather, and makes them let me thru the border, maybe I will take the wife on a vacation over there. she likes talking.
11:56:33 <Dmitry_Farad> with pleasure, I will disperse the clouds)
11:57:22 <rust_collector> oh good. I will go start the tractor
11:58:14 <rust_collector> i would actually like to visit that area some time, but probably in summer
11:58:33 <Dmitry_Farad> stock up with fuel and drive to us)
11:59:33 <Dmitry_Farad> I would also like to visit you and no matter what time of year
12:00:19 <rust_collector> oh sure. if you can, just come, we will find a spare room or something.
12:01:28 <rust_collector> Part of me want to use the rest of the toyota, for a trip like that. it does not have much life left in it. so just drive as far as it goes, and give what is left to someone, then get on a plane back
12:02:34 <rust_collector> ok, I have to find some more food
12:04:38 <Dmitry_Farad> I will arrive in an UAZ))) and leave it to you
12:05:00 <rust_collector> woohoo!
12:05:41 <rust_collector> i wonder why I like those so much. they look like bread on small wheels
12:07:56 <Dmitry_Farad> we call it that, bread on wheels))))
12:08:33 <rust_collector> hah!
12:08:49 <Dmitry_Farad> there is a good UAZ 469)
12:09:43 <rust_collector> yeah, those are cool, in a way also, but I just have a thing for the van.
12:10:18 <rust_collector> how much is one of those over there? either of them, in... not perfect, but usable shape?
12:12:09 <Dmitry_Farad> 4500 - 6000$
12:12:57 <rust_collector> mmhmm mmhmm
12:12:57 <Dmitry_Farad> https://ibb.co/yhNDNYp my view from the window))
12:13:54 <Dmitry_Farad> how much is the cheapest car you have?
12:14:38 <rust_collector> the cheapest one I have? hmm, probably the corolla, which I got for paining the house, lol
12:14:41 <Dmitry_Farad> our cheapest one costs about $ 3500
12:15:14 <rust_collector> the wifes car was 500nok, which is....
12:15:35 <rust_collector> around $600
12:15:58 <rust_collector> 5000nok, not 500
12:16:08 <Dmitry_Farad> ok
12:16:49 <rust_collector> but it is a very crappy car. I hope it just refuses to start one of these days, so I can get rid of it
12:17:01 <Dmitry_Farad> what make and model of the car and what year?
12:17:12 <rust_collector> that one is a...
12:17:23 <rust_collector> 2002 chrysler voyager 2.4
12:18:43 <rust_collector> they are all sort of... not good. but there are not many alternatives, that are similar to it.
12:19:03 <Dmitry_Farad> wow, we have such a car costs 3000$)
12:19:12 <rust_collector> I am not sure why, but the wife loves those damn things
12:19:28 <rust_collector> well, that one would probably be in much better shape
12:20:19 <Dmitry_Farad> exactly the same year and minimum equipment
12:21:08 <rust_collector> a long time ago, I had a 1988 or 89 voyager, the box looking one. I did like that one a bit. much more room inside, and the 3 liter mitsubishi engine.
12:21:27 <rust_collector> I think ours is an "se" whatever that means.
12:21:56 <rust_collector> it is also 90% patched up holes, and it needs all the brakes replaced, again
12:22:11 <rust_collector> the windows are pretty good on it
12:23:54 <rust_collector> hmm, it started snowing again. it has been weeks of around -15, and nice weather. but today, -4 and snow
12:26:31 <rust_collector> https://ibb.co/bKmTBkN
12:26:47 <Dmitry_Farad> we have hard pipes here, on the street somewhere - 15
12:27:20 <rust_collector> hard pipes?
12:27:40 <Dmitry_Farad> traffic jams
12:27:49 <rust_collector> oh nice
12:28:34 <rust_collector> this road ends around 40 meters to the left of that picture, so we do not have too much traffic here
12:30:20 <rust_collector> hmm, do you have a russian version of ebay, or... somewhere people sell stuff site?
12:31:21 <Dmitry_Farad> yes, avito.ru there is a lot of stuff
12:31:57 <rust_collector> nice, thanks
12:32:24 <Dmitry_Farad> I'm now trying to understand how to sell on ebay) there are many interesting things
12:32:56 <rust_collector> i would be careful selling there, but yes, there are many interesting things there.
12:33:25 <rust_collector> buying on ebay seems to be pretty safe, but selling, not so much.
12:34:05 <Dmitry_Farad> I recently bought a lot of electronic components there)
12:34:33 <Dmitry_Farad> Thanks, I'll keep it in mind
12:34:37 <rust_collector> yes, I also buy stuff there.
12:34:58 <rust_collector> i have been pretty lucky with the stuff I buy there.
12:35:47 <Dmitry_Farad> I find there things that are not in Russia or at a price lower
12:36:41 <rust_collector> I find a lot of stuff I want in the us, so the price has to be tripled, because of shipping
12:37:09 <rust_collector> and, all the things that are really cool and cheap, only run on 110v
12:37:21 <rust_collector> it eems to be a law
12:39:09 <Dmitry_Farad> I made myself a 110v transformer and use it in such cases)
12:39:35 <rust_collector> yes, that is an idea
12:40:15 <Dmitry_Farad> I also made a 220 V isolation transformer
12:40:34 <Dmitry_Farad> very much saves from electric shock
12:40:36 <Dmitry_Farad> )
12:40:44 <rust_collector> very progressive and safe
12:41:44 <Dmitry_Farad> right now I'll go out for 20 minutes, go to the store) I need to cook breakfast
13:00:46 <Dmitry_Farad> I'm alive) it's not even very cold outside)
13:01:16 <rust_collector> it must have been warm, because you only used 19 minutes
13:05:58 <rust_collector> sparkman power supplies... that is somehtingI would want in my computer
13:17:08 <Dmitry_Farad> I have a dipcool installed
13:17:36 <Dmitry_Farad> I don't know what it costs in a laptop)
13:19:25 <rust_collector> that avito site does have a LOT of 775 motherboards
13:20:54 <Dmitry_Farad> yes there are a lot of them they sell, at one time I bought faulty ones, repaired and sold them)
13:21:34 <Dmitry_Farad> I have a home server on 775
13:23:28 <rust_collector> I am not sure if I have any left. I think I got rid of them
13:23:42 * electrohead solders rust_collector to the ceiling
13:24:01 <rust_collector> you don't have enough flux for that
13:25:11 <rust_collector> hmm, It looks like I have started to stick random stuff into a breadboard... wth is this supposed to be?
13:25:47 <Dmitry_Farad> 1gbt network is quite enough, I'm still working at the premiere, videos are loaded quickly, I use ssd everywhere
13:28:40 <Dmitry_Farad> did not quite understand what random things mean)
13:31:54 <rust_collector> random things... well, if you close your eyes, and pick a component out of a box, that would be random. I just have no idea what this was supposed to be. I have an opamp, and some wires, and... some other components, that make no sense
13:36:39 <Dmitry_Farad> I understood)
13:37:23 <rust_collector> https://www.avito.ru/kuybyshev/mototsikly_i_mototehnika/vezdehod_2070526860
13:37:29 <Dmitry_Farad> I also have random things on Chinese sites)
13:37:58 <Dmitry_Farad> oh cool thing!)
13:38:43 <Dmitry_Farad> https://www.avito.ru/novoaltaysk/mototsikly_i_mototehnika/muravey_m_2_2050890296
13:38:58 <rust_collector> I am collecting parts to make a small tractor. so I tend to look at all the things I can, for ideas
13:39:35 <rust_collector> heh. babushka is going to the store
13:39:46 <Dmitry_Farad> self-propelled vehicle is a cool thing, especially self-assembled
13:40:15 <Dmitry_Farad> yes in the village so)))
13:41:02 <Dmitry_Farad> I bought a semi-automatic welding right now I'm studying it) I cook all sorts of things
13:41:18 <rust_collector> I always need a tractor. but a real tractor is too big
13:41:46 <rust_collector> semi automatic welding. do you mean wire feed, mig/mag?
13:42:07 <Dmitry_Farad> What kind of tractor? for sowing or for off-road driving?
13:42:40 <Dmitry_Farad> wire feed
13:42:47 <rust_collector> no, just for... hmm, pulling things around, pushing snow. nothing special
13:43:01 <Dmitry_Farad> and carbon dioxide
13:43:08 <rust_collector> I do not really need a tractor, but I just NEED a tractor
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13:43:35 <rust_collector> right. that is nice
13:44:04 <Dmitry_Farad> there are good options in russia, people are remaking simple tractors, adding a bucket to the front
13:45:18 <Dmitry_Farad> https://www.spectehnika.com/zap/smennoe-oborudovanie/navesnoe-oborudovanie-dlya-spetstekhniki-na-baze-uaz/otval-na-uaz/
13:45:32 <Dmitry_Farad> https://www.drive2.ru/l/494347575747412228/
13:46:06 <Dmitry_Farad> ))
13:46:28 <Dmitry_Farad> наши кулибины это делают)
13:46:36 <rust_collector> oops
13:46:36 <Dmitry_Farad> our kulibins do it)
13:47:59 <Dmitry_Farad> I myself did similar things for the car when you need to make out a lot of snow
13:48:31 <Dmitry_Farad> when there is nothing to do in the garage, you are doing such things)
13:51:52 <Dmitry_Farad> I invent more with electronics, and when I have time I do such things with welding)
13:53:12 <rust_collector> well. you know what they say. if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
13:53:28 <rust_collector> but if you have a welder, everything looks like anything
13:54:14 <Dmitry_Farad> yes, I myself studied to be a welder)
13:54:49 <Dmitry_Farad> electronics is my second lesson
13:55:14 <Dmitry_Farad> although I understand more in electronics than in welding)
13:55:35 <rust_collector> I learnt to dig holes, and blow stuff up. then I went and got a job driving trucks, lol
13:56:05 <rust_collector> I think I was around 8 when I started "welding"
13:56:21 <rust_collector> annoying grandpa in the shed
13:56:29 <Dmitry_Farad> I also worked as a driver, I didn’t like it, right now I work for myself, make equipment
13:57:21 <Dmitry_Farad> I torture neighbors in the apartment, they drilled at home, and the like)))
13:57:50 <Dmitry_Farad> father taught welding at age 12)
13:58:17 <Dmitry_Farad> cooked small structures in the village
13:58:18 <rust_collector> just put a steel plate on the radiator, and find a blunt drill bit in a hilti, and annoy your neighbors
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13:58:38 <Dmitry_Farad> hah
13:58:39 <Dmitry_Farad> )
13:59:26 <rust_collector> i guess it would be hard to find out where the noise comes from...
13:59:30 <Dmitry_Farad> I torture them every weekend
14:00:16 <Dmitry_Farad> I don’t have an office right now, I’m building houses
14:00:56 <Dmitry_Farad> I saw and do other things, the neighbors are not happy, on the balcony I work by welding)))
14:01:17 <rust_collector> be careful doing that
14:01:37 <Dmitry_Farad> now we are making an office
14:01:45 <rust_collector> you will end up with a large heavy machine on the balcony, that you can not get out
14:02:05 <Dmitry_Farad> yes there were already problems with the police
14:02:07 <Dmitry_Farad> ))
14:02:34 <Dmitry_Farad> although the police are fine with it
14:02:57 <Dmitry_Farad> they only write out warnings
14:03:38 <rust_collector> I like that I am not in the police.
14:03:40 <Dmitry_Farad> we are allowed to make noise from 8-00 to 23-00
14:04:15 <Dmitry_Farad> except Sunday
14:04:30 <rust_collector> yes, sundays are a waste of time
14:05:05 <rust_collector> it is 6 to 23 here. except sundays, and religious thing days
14:05:54 <Dmitry_Farad> what are your noise penalties?
14:06:06 <rust_collector> I don't know?
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14:06:47 <Dmitry_Farad> we have a fine of $ 7
14:07:23 <rust_collector> right here, I would probably have a neighbor come over, if it was too much noise, way too late, but in general, I try to be quiet-ish at night, so they are ok with the few times I have to do something
14:07:42 <Dmitry_Farad> repeated violation for 20 $
14:08:37 <rust_collector> i don't think the police cares, unless it is complaints very often
14:08:46 <Dmitry_Farad> I sit at night soldering or developing circuits, and during the day I saw or knock with a hammer)
14:09:37 <Dmitry_Farad> the police don't do that much
14:10:18 <Dmitry_Farad> we have a very line police, they come, write the paper and leave)
14:10:55 <Dmitry_Farad> and no penalty, just a warning
14:11:58 <rust_collector> so, how did you make your transformers? did you rewind one, or did you use several, or?
14:13:38 <Dmitry_Farad> I bought a couple of uninterruptible converters and turned them on in the opposite direction
14:14:02 <Dmitry_Farad> took at 500 watts
14:14:37 <Dmitry_Farad> winding transformers is not mine)
14:15:06 <Dmitry_Farad> also made a 110v transformer
14:15:46 <Dmitry_Farad> made protection for the short circuit and everything works like a clock
14:17:30 <rust_collector> tick tock tick tock.......tick tock tick tock ticktock tick
14:17:42 <Dmitry_Farad> made protection for the short circuit and everything works like a clock
14:18:35 <Dmitry_Farad> I like to stick my fingers where it is not necessary, the transformer helps out
14:19:17 <Dmitry_Farad> the most important thing is a rupture of the earth, it saves a lot, otherwise it was shocked so many times
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14:19:30 <rust_collector> oh, hi Halcyon
14:19:57 <Dmitry_Farad> hi Halcyon
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14:20:37 <rust_collector> I was just thinking of you. as someone mentioned liking to stick fingers where it is not necessary
14:20:38 <Dmitry_Farad> bye)))
14:20:49 <rust_collector> arrgh. typicla police
14:21:18 <rust_collector> they are always there when you don't need them
14:21:37 <Dmitry_Farad> yes
14:22:34 <Dmitry_Farad> have you been in this chat for a long time?
14:22:53 <rust_collector> hmm, I think it has been a year or so?
14:23:03 <rust_collector> I am not really sure.
14:23:07 <rust_collector> not very very long
14:24:19 <Dmitry_Farad> I found this chat from YouTube
14:24:35 <rust_collector> I think most did
14:25:03 <Dmitry_Farad> eevblog gave a lot of understanding on electronics
14:26:27 <Dmitry_Farad> eevblog very motivates me in this topic
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14:27:44 <Guest|27729> Hi
14:27:47 <Dmitry_Farad> I really like to understand electronics, I read a lot of literature, I build my things
14:27:49 <Dmitry_Farad> рш
14:27:52 <Dmitry_Farad> hi
14:27:58 <rust_collector> heh hello
14:28:12 <rust_collector> or pw, whatever
14:28:40 <Guest|27729> where are you from guys ??
14:28:59 <rust_collector> norway, sort of to the south
14:29:01 <Dmitry_Farad> really want to learn how to program hardware
14:29:21 <Dmitry_Farad> iam from russia
14:29:32 <Dmitry_Farad> from sibiria
14:29:45 <Dmitry_Farad> Krasnoyarsk
14:29:46 <Dmitry_Farad> )
14:29:50 <rust_collector> I only like old analog things. I am not really interested in digital things
14:30:39 <Dmitry_Farad> I learn analog things, but I don't get around digital either
14:30:46 <Guest|27729> there are lots of content available to the internet to learn
14:31:02 <Dmitry_Farad> I like amplifiers
14:31:19 <Guest|27729> digital is also interesting
14:31:40 <Dmitry_Farad> yes I study a lot, any material
14:31:55 <Dmitry_Farad> yes
14:32:18 <rust_collector> i like power supplies. which makes no sense, because i do not have a good use for a power supply. but... meh, it is a thing to do
14:33:00 <Guest|27729> i like microcontrollers
14:33:09 <Dmitry_Farad> <Guest|27729> Where are you from?
14:33:25 <Guest|27729> India
14:33:34 <Dmitry_Farad> I also love microcontrollers
14:34:04 <rust_collector> what part of india?
14:34:11 <Dmitry_Farad> ooo i was in india, had a good cultural experience
14:34:14 <Guest|27729> Kolkata
14:34:19 <rust_collector> ooh
14:34:22 <Dmitry_Farad> )
14:34:48 <rust_collector> well, hello mr time +5.5 hours
14:35:03 <Dmitry_Farad> I really like the philosophy of India
14:35:25 <Dmitry_Farad> yeah)
14:35:36 <rust_collector> I think there are plenty of different philosophies there. it is a fairly large place
14:36:04 <Guest|27729> yes
14:36:19 <Dmitry_Farad> yes, but when I was there it was cool
14:36:46 <rust_collector> I like how west bengal has the x and a half hour time zone. didn't they think of moving to a whole hour there too?
14:37:02 <Guest|27729> you can find different culture in every 100 km in India
14:38:15 <Dmitry_Farad> do time zones make sense?
14:38:24 <rust_collector> now I wonder if you are that kolkata guy who always stalk me around the internet...
14:38:41 <Dmitry_Farad> we are all people of the same planet)))
14:38:58 <rust_collector> are you sure?
14:39:16 <Dmitry_Farad> yes
14:39:20 <Dmitry_Farad> da
14:39:22 <Dmitry_Farad> )))
14:39:41 <rust_collector> well, some times you have to wonder...
14:40:05 <Guest|27729> ha ha
14:40:17 <Guest|27729> no no I am new here
14:40:19 <Dmitry_Farad> I like the philosophy that we are all one people and we don't need wars !!!)
14:40:42 <rust_collector> well, we can not all mess with old amplifiers...
14:40:59 <Dmitry_Farad> )
14:41:04 <Guest|27729> yup I agree Dmitry
14:41:14 <rust_collector> Guest|27729, I have been chatting with a guy from kolkata for a few years, on and off
14:42:46 <Dmitry_Farad> I myself have been in the military for many years, and now I am retired, I have seen many wars and this is not necessary!
14:42:48 <rust_collector> I think he does mostly computer things, but did send a soldering iron, and some leds and stuff to him, a while ago. so he is not completely uninterested in electronics
14:43:40 <Dmitry_Farad> yes, even if he soldered the LED, it's already cool))))
14:43:44 <rust_collector> I was in the military for exactly 9 months, plus a month, because when we gave our guns back, mine had the wrong serial number....
14:43:51 <Guest|27729> I am trying to build a online community around electronics.
14:44:02 <rust_collector> cool
14:44:09 <Dmitry_Farad> cool
14:44:26 <rust_collector> not as cold as Dmitry, but cool
14:44:33 <Dmitry_Farad> it is necessary
14:44:35 <Guest|27729> haha
14:44:49 <Dmitry_Farad> )
14:45:46 <rust_collector> I remember mr kolkata almost froze to death, inside, and it was 15c
14:46:00 <rust_collector> I have to admit that was amusing
14:46:18 <Dmitry_Farad> <Guest | 27729> what's your name?
14:47:26 <Dmitry_Farad> I tried to freeze, but it's warm enough outside -15C
14:47:53 <rust_collector> too much cognac
14:48:34 <Dmitry_Farad> cognac is good
14:48:35 <Dmitry_Farad> ))
14:48:45 <Guest|27729> Guest | 27729
14:49:04 <rust_collector> so they say. I can not drink that stuff
14:49:10 <Dmitry_Farad> very warm, in Russia they are heated only like this)
14:49:49 <Dmitry_Farad> I drink homemade moonshine, I make myself
14:50:30 <Dmitry_Farad> I like to make my own moonshine
14:50:31 <Dmitry_Farad> )
14:50:44 <rust_collector> nice. we used to drink that, but some idiot was selling methanol, so suddenly no one made anything
14:51:15 <Dmitry_Farad> )
14:51:54 <Dmitry_Farad> I make good moonshine, and I try it myself)
14:51:56 <Guest|27729> how do you learn op-amp and all
14:52:47 <Dmitry_Farad> I study from literature and my experiment
14:53:13 <Dmitry_Farad> already burned a lot of microcircuits)
14:54:02 <Guest|27729> I am in intermediate level in microcontroller but don't have much knowledge in analog
14:54:06 <Dmitry_Farad> do you do radio broadcasting?
14:54:13 <rust_collector> learn opamp... hmm. well, I guess the basic idea is that it compares the inputs, and does whatever it has to, with the output, to make the inputs the same. it probably does much more, but I think that is the basic idea
14:55:07 <Dmitry_Farad> well this is it
14:55:15 <Guest|27729> hmm
14:55:29 <Dmitry_Farad> he amplifies the signal
14:55:43 <rust_collector> https://www.ti.com/lit/an/sboa092b/sboa092b.pdf
14:56:24 <Dmitry_Farad> I'm doing radio, my callsign is RK0AZF
14:57:20 <Dmitry_Farad> i have a radio transmitter i am trying to transmit radio to long range
14:57:53 <rust_collector> what do you use as an antenna, living in the 10th floor of an apartment building?
14:58:07 <Dmitry_Farad> while the farthest where I passed this 3500 km
14:58:33 <Dmitry_Farad> dipole
14:58:56 <rust_collector> dipole.
14:59:27 <Dmitry_Farad> antenna is very cut
14:59:51 <Dmitry_Farad> want to make big
14:59:53 <rust_collector> If I got it right, the antenna is almost the most important thing, to send a long distance, with usable sound.
15:00:08 <rust_collector> but, otoh, I don't now a thing about radio stuff
15:00:17 <Dmitry_Farad> yes
15:01:07 <Dmitry_Farad> I measured it out, made the most powerful one for the smallest size
15:01:56 <rust_collector> dads neighbor is into radios, he has a wire from the roof, and across the lawn, up into some trees. it has to be 40meters or so. I should go talk to him some time.
15:03:51 <Dmitry_Farad> yes, right now I have an antenna between two houses made, 40 meters range takes
15:04:08 <Dmitry_Farad> power 15 watts
15:04:40 Quit: TheDude ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
15:04:46 <Dmitry_Farad> I go on air at night when the ionosphere is free
15:05:05 <Dmitry_Farad> rk0azf
15:05:27 <Dmitry_Farad> my callsign
15:06:42 <Dmitry_Farad> the farthest connection was with Germany
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15:07:44 <rust_collector> they shut down most of the fm radio stuff here, and now I can hear am radio from weird places at night
15:08:45 <Dmitry_Farad> well cool, maybe someday you will hear me on the air
15:08:57 <rust_collector> I get 1 or 2 channels from england, usually one french, and there is 2-3 from somewhere, I believe one is probably ukranian or belarusian
15:09:30 <rust_collector> i am just using the radio in the car. not something special.
15:09:47 <Dmitry_Farad> maybe one of them is mine))
15:10:14 <rust_collector> but getting rid of all the fm things, seems to have cleared the air enough for other signals
15:10:27 <rust_collector> yeah, who knows?
15:10:58 <Dmitry_Farad> possibly
15:11:35 <rust_collector> so, I don't have more mayonez, and I don't have oil... I might as well go to bed
15:12:10 <Dmitry_Farad> )
15:12:54 <Dmitry_Farad> I have 6000 km of signal before you, it's hard to fart
15:12:58 <rust_collector> wth? I had lots of both yesterday?
15:13:14 <Dmitry_Farad> but I will try)
15:13:18 <rust_collector> it is hard to fart?
15:13:52 <Dmitry_Farad> yes
15:14:22 <rust_collector> google says it is just 5984.2 km
15:14:23 <Dmitry_Farad> I will try to tune the antenna and give
15:15:06 <Dmitry_Farad> I had a maximum transmission for 3000 km))
15:15:06 <rust_collector> 83 hours driving. I have to look at that map
15:15:20 <Dmitry_Farad> ))
15:15:25 <rust_collector> you have to give me 66 watts!
15:15:40 <rust_collector> so I can hear you fart
15:16:01 <Dmitry_Farad> well, not so much power
15:16:16 <Dmitry_Farad> )
15:16:46 <Dmitry_Farad> I'll climb onto the roof and do things))
15:16:57 <rust_collector> you can fix that. you like amplifiers and stuff...
15:17:24 <Dmitry_Farad> I will assemble an amplifier on a lamp
15:17:48 <rust_collector> ok
15:19:14 <Dmitry_Farad> you need to buy lamps from the military and make an amplifier))
15:19:23 <rust_collector> heh
15:19:37 <rust_collector> the vacuum tubes?
15:19:44 <Dmitry_Farad> yes
15:20:51 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir gave me a pair of pcl86 tubes. I do plan to use them, when i have figured out the power supply stuff for them
15:22:09 <Dmitry_Farad> 6п3с military amplifiers use quite powerful
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15:22:44 <Dmitry_Farad> I was a radio operator in the army, I tried many lamps)
15:23:46 <Dmitry_Farad> there are many such in the back room, experimenting
15:24:32 <rust_collector> When I was in the military, we had a radio in the back of out jeep. that thing was probably from just after the war. When I got there, one of the first things I had to do, was to fish that radio out of the sea, because someone had dropped it thru the ice. so it had been in the sea over the rest of the winter. But we got it up, and they just hosed it out with water, and put it on a radiator, and the damn thing worked ok
15:25:12 <rust_collector> Not that we ever used to for anything.
15:25:50 <Dmitry_Farad> yes, the radio of those years is forever)))
15:26:37 <Dmitry_Farad> worked with systems from 40s and they worked like a clock
15:26:59 <rust_collector> we only got old crap, because no one liked us, lol
15:27:13 <rust_collector> which was fine. we could do out own thing
15:29:28 <rust_collector> I think we only had 3 real things to do, in the time I was there. one time, was that we were given 20 minutes to teach xx americans how to ski, the second was to pull out stuff stuck in mud, and the 3rd was to clear snow off a halfway collapsed house. So that was a year well spent
15:29:55 <Dmitry_Farad> we worked with old shit but it worked)))
15:30:16 <rust_collector> we did a lot of driving around, just looking at different places, went fishing, and such.
15:31:21 <Dmitry_Farad> we dripped and shot a lot, all kinds of weapons and the like
15:32:00 <Dmitry_Farad> i worked on radio stations, they were in a sad state
15:33:37 <Dmitry_Farad> then I learned the morse code and transmitted the encryption between the aria
15:34:21 <rust_collector> I didn't shoot a lot. which was fine. I did figure out that the mini rocket launcher things was just the right diameter to fix the pipe for the rain gutter, after we smashed those when plowing snow
15:35:14 <Dmitry_Farad> and intercepted American messages)))
15:35:20 <rust_collector> just in case you wonder why some rain gutters up north have triggers, and sights
15:36:58 <Dmitry_Farad> did not quite understand the last message, can I write something differently?
15:37:43 <Dmitry_Farad> about the transfer of Americans, they use an open transfer code))))
15:38:13 <rust_collector> hmm, ok.
15:38:21 <Dmitry_Farad> it is easily decrypted
15:38:23 <Dmitry_Farad> ))
15:39:02 <rust_collector> well, I guess most of the messages was " do you want burgers or pizza?"
15:39:10 <rust_collector> "pizza"
15:39:16 <rust_collector> "ok"
15:39:40 <Dmitry_Farad> something like that))))
15:39:42 <Dmitry_Farad> )
15:39:43 <rust_collector> "joe says we don't have pizza, do you want burgers?"
15:43:22 <Dmitry_Farad> no, I will have pizza, I will have a hamburger with a rocket))
15:44:19 <rust_collector> how far away is irkutsk, it looks like around 1000km?
15:44:36 <Dmitry_Farad> while the Americans are figuring out a hamburger or cheeseburger, we are deploying the earth-air complex)))))
15:45:43 <rust_collector> always cheeseburger!
15:46:09 <Dmitry_Farad> something like that
15:46:31 <Dmitry_Farad> ))
15:47:39 <rust_collector> I noticed irkutsk when I was in school, because it is a bit difficult to pronounce. I just like the name
15:48:31 <Dmitry_Farad> I noticed irkutsk when I was in school, because it is a bit difficult to pronounce. I just like the name
15:48:41 <Dmitry_Farad> Irkutsk is a very cold place in Russia)
15:48:57 <rust_collector> well, I still like the name
15:49:07 <Dmitry_Farad> only Khabarovsk is colder
15:50:01 <Dmitry_Farad> I was in Irkutsk, a very nice city, but there are a lot of factories
15:50:41 <Dmitry_Farad> the air is very gassed, there is nothing to breathe
15:51:13 <Dmitry_Farad> in Krasnoyarsk the same situation
15:51:32 <Dmitry_Farad> where I live
15:51:59 <rust_collector> i wonder what the car rental place would say, if I rented a car, and drove like an idiot to vladivostok, and said it was stolen
15:52:59 <Dmitry_Farad> I think they will say what kind of car you owe))
15:53:12 <rust_collector> hah
15:53:30 <Dmitry_Farad> it doesn't work like that here))))
15:54:30 <rust_collector> I guess it would be safer if i arranged someone to actually steal it
15:55:22 <Dmitry_Farad> I think yes it would be safer
15:56:13 <Dmitry_Farad> we have a lot of cars stolen, and no one can do about it
15:57:00 <Dmitry_Farad> the guys from the theft are very staffed, I intercept the codes and go)))
16:01:15 <Dmitry_Farad> our guys still use all sorts of transceivers)
16:05:33 <rust_collector> I am reading about using rental cars outside the country. there are lots of weird rules
16:06:24 <rust_collector> if you rent from hertz, if you get a volvo, tesla, or bmw, it is not allowed to go into italy
16:06:54 <rust_collector> not allowed to drive in africa
16:07:07 <rust_collector> that is ok, I can manage that part
16:10:20 <Dmitry_Farad> and why? in russia you can drive a vehicle everywhere
16:12:56 <Dmitry_Farad> I understand that there are restrictions on the entry of nonresident citizens?
16:14:21 <rust_collector> this is just what the rental company says. it is not a law. but you can get a pretty large bill if you do anything that you are not allowed to
16:15:26 <rust_collector> I just think it is weird that you are not allowed to drive those 3 brands of car into italy. I am almost sure even a bmw works in italy.
16:16:08 <Dmitry_Farad> I can't tell all the secrets of the military industry))) I will be executed if so
16:17:00 <Dmitry_Farad> although in a closed chat I can transfer data, but only in a closed one)
16:17:40 <Dmitry_Farad> I'm like Snowden)))
16:18:28 <Dmitry_Farad> I know a lot on military topics))
16:19:36 <Dmitry_Farad> I served in secret service in the troops
16:19:37 <Dmitry_Farad> )
16:20:02 <rust_collector> me too. I am not even sure if they noticed I was there
16:20:41 <Dmitry_Farad> we communicated with punched cards)
16:21:06 <Dmitry_Farad> and there was solomon reed's code)
16:21:46 <rust_collector> I communicated with leaving the edge of pizza crust on tables, But no one answered
16:22:12 <Dmitry_Farad> )
16:22:32 <Dmitry_Farad> then they are not in the subject
16:23:48 <Dmitry_Farad> I have keys to decrypt messages, they are expired, but there is an algorithm
16:24:37 <rust_collector> I actually drove past the place I was in the military, just before new year. there is not much left. the house i was in is gone, and there are regular houses all over where out camp was
16:25:37 <Dmitry_Farad> I served very far, near Japan
16:26:25 <rust_collector> that is why I want to go to vladivostok some day, so I can pee in the direction of japan
16:26:55 <Dmitry_Farad> we played them as much as possible, they helped us
16:27:37 <Dmitry_Farad> Japan is a very cool country
16:28:05 <rust_collector> it is also where all the weird stuff is from
16:28:12 <Dmitry_Farad> they are the most promising now
16:28:27 <rust_collector> eeh. promising what?
16:28:42 <Dmitry_Farad> I was next to them in the army
16:28:54 <rust_collector> yees
16:29:24 <Dmitry_Farad> they are very friendly and share technology
16:30:06 <Dmitry_Farad> a lot of things from there I learned for myself
16:30:10 <rust_collector> do you think that had anything to do with you kidnapping their families, maybe?
16:30:24 <rust_collector> ok ok, i show you
16:30:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Ok, so I'm used to spam, but from a 10M sub Youtuber? WTF @Sidemen No one else is going to go to the effort to spam your video, so... In this case a Malaysian account posting on an Australian canyoning forum! Are you that stupid to actually pay a spamming agency for promotion? https://t.co/9AzjbvQjzE
16:31:07 <Dmitry_Farad> no I do not think so
16:33:10 <Dmitry_Farad> Japan is a very progressive country
16:41:15 <rust_collector> I just ordered a few opamps. maybe I will get them before summer, lol
16:47:03 <rust_collector> I wonder what kind of electronics community guest 293726384938 is trying to make.
16:49:34 <T3sl4> an unholy army?
16:49:48 <rust_collector> probably
17:03:51 <rust_collector> ok, it is 7, time for a nap. good night
17:34:56 <rust_collector> I am thinking that maybe I should cut a pentagram shaped slot in the support and insulation in the hood of the wifemobile, so that she gets a nice pentagram every time there is snow on it
17:46:19 <T3sl4> that would be neat
18:01:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! eevBLAB #84 - Sidemen SPAM https://t.co/eYYXWWoBSK
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19:36:43 <K> hello barnacles
19:39:00 <T3sl4> and a good chocolate starfish to you
19:44:56 <K> thank you.
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20:55:48 <hsn> Well
20:56:12 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/FxTQ4nt3BnQXXuTF9
20:56:24 <hsn> Few angle brackets are missing
21:24:01 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
21:24:14 <Ampera> all my friends disappear when I'm around :/
21:25:35 <K> coz you wont take a hint.
21:25:50 * Ampera whacks K with a hint of aged scrotum
21:26:39 <K> totes whacko
21:30:54 <hsn> How much esd matt cost
21:31:22 <Ampera> ESD Matt is priceless, we won't sell him for any amount of money
21:31:32 <Ampera> we'll just give him away to you
21:31:35 <Ampera> so he stops zapping our shit
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21:41:32 <hsn> The ones in aliexpress are small i want roll type
21:43:36 <K> big boy esd mat
21:46:18 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/C51kCr5P9JywN98PA
21:46:24 <hsn> Isnt this alot?
21:46:58 <Ampera> depends on what sort of dollar that is
21:47:10 <hsn> Usd
21:47:24 <hsn> 130
21:49:31 <electrohead> o/
22:41:00 <hsn> morning rusty
23:02:47 <hsn> rust_collector: my table should be finished tmrw
23:03:18 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uZAD52GbZyU1LRpL6
23:03:50 <hsn> The biscuit joint he made https://photos.app.goo.gl/BQeSTp4ALdfC4HAY9
23:04:30 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1FSbREgYJpZv8Xte9
23:15:57 <K> oh, it looks sunny and warm over there
23:37:43 <DogWomble> why oh why is getting someone to help code up a script for a data migration between two CMS's so difficult?
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23:38:16 <DogWomble> *proceeds to repeatedly bang head against table until his brain bleeds*
23:41:11 <DogWomble> basically had one person say it's possible but then come through with their coding skills aren't up to scratch, then had someone say it's possible then go quiet on me for 2 weeks and blame it on covid, then had someone say they can do it and then spent several hours explaining the concept of logging in, then had someone say they can do tit then admit that they arent' a developer
23:41:39 <DogWomble> and this is after i've given them basic psdeudocode and some information i've gleaned after pulling apart one of the database schemas
23:41:54 <DogWomble> and the only reason i'm not doing this myself is last time i coded was when visual basic 6 was still a thing
23:42:13 <Ampera> you're doing a schema to schema migration?
23:42:23 <DogWomble> yeah, that's it :)
23:42:30 <Ampera> those are fun pains in the ass
23:42:58 <DogWomble> yeah, i know they're a pain in the ass - i know they're in theory possible, you just find where things are in the old schema then toss it about to where it needs to be in the new schema
23:43:26 <Ampera> While that's true, schemas are often poorly documented, and quite intricate, with thousands of variables and dozens of tables to look at
23:43:27 <DogWomble> i'm just getitng a bit sick of people saying they're willing to do it and then either disappear on me or you realise they don't have the skills they promised
23:43:31 <Ampera> at least with the software I work with
23:43:47 <Ampera> Don't worry, I won't offer, because I know I don't have the time :P
23:43:50 <DogWomble> yeah, though i think i've picked apart the old schema well enough :)
23:44:05 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:44:11 <Ampera> what sort of DB servers are they
23:44:24 <K> noone wants to migrate data
23:44:25 <DogWomble> it's all MySQL, going from SilverStipe to WordPress
23:44:31 <K> that kind of tasks sucks
23:44:44 <Ampera> I like it because I'm masochistic like that
23:45:06 <DogWomble> basically the long history of SilverStripe and the developers that convinced them it was a good idea failing to deliver basically means that we're hoping to abandon it
23:45:38 <Ampera> Have you looked if anyone else has created a migration script?
23:46:06 <DogWomble> yeah there's CMS2CMS and similar services ... the quotes are in excess of the $US5000 mark because they charge per article
23:46:28 <Ampera> no I mean free
23:46:33 <DogWomble> that's the sort of budget we don't have, and it's kinda silly that they're charging per article when the script they're using is exactly the same
23:46:38 <DogWomble> i have yet to find anything that's free sadly :(
23:46:49 <Ampera> then presumably if they are, it's because they can
23:47:05 <DogWomble> yeah, i'm aware of that :)
23:47:13 <Ampera> how many articles do you ahve
23:47:20 <DogWomble> it's currently a little over 10,000
23:47:34 <Ampera> It'd be a pain in the ass, but if you seriously got nobody, have you thought about doing it by hand?
23:47:46 <DogWomble> that might be a last resort - but that would be weeks/months potentially
23:47:57 <hsn> K, its always sunny and warm
23:48:06 <hsn> sometimes spicy warm
23:48:29 <Ampera> does SilverStripe have a REST API?
23:48:53 <Ampera> if you just need to move articles, I can probably write you a script to do that API to API
23:49:25 <DogWomble> i'm just trying to work out whether it does have REST
23:49:33 <K> ir is not just articles, it is media and links as well
23:49:39 <DogWomble> I haven't actually investigated that yet
23:49:46 <K> and god forbid, comments or follows or any of that social crap
23:50:01 <Ampera> DogWomble, do you have stored videos/pictures/comments?
23:50:20 <DogWomble> we do have pictures, afaik no stored videos, and comments we're ditching because they were all spam
23:50:31 <Ampera> I can probably do pictures
23:50:34 <DogWomble> we're doing something slightly 'custom' with the images though
23:50:35 <Ampera> (if there is a good API)
23:50:44 <Ampera> S3 buckets?
23:50:46 <K> this work is shoveling horse shit from one can into another
23:51:02 <DogWomble> @K that is a very good analogy right now :)
23:51:19 <Ampera> if they're just linked with bbcode (or whatever) and not actually stored and embedded then that's not even a problem
23:51:43 <DogWomble> yeah, they're basically featured images - and they're basically database entries
23:51:50 <Ampera> that's worse
23:51:52 <DogWomble> i've found out where they live in SilverStripe
23:51:52 <Ampera> much worse
23:52:11 <DogWomble> yeah, it's kinda silly i think :)
23:52:18 <Ampera> but, if it's exposed by the API, I can still probably deal with it
23:55:39 <K> indecent exposure
23:57:30 <DogWomble> any exposure to me is indecent
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