// #eevblog — 2021-02-25
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00:19:27 <electrohead> o/
00:19:39 <steve30> \o
00:22:16 <electrohead> hey mabn
00:22:18 <electrohead> man*
00:23:45 <Ysjoelfir> hey mr. head
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00:44:12 <electrohead> https://github.com/akuker/RASCSI
00:44:26 <electrohead> I think someone in the past, in this channel, asked about emulating SCSI devices
00:44:30 <electrohead> so, posting this here
00:46:27 <Ampera> electrohead, interface through GPIO?
00:48:49 * T3sl4 SOAPs electrohead's interface
00:49:59 <Ampera> give it a REST, T3sl4
00:51:01 <T3sl4> :)
00:56:19 * steve30 makes sausage and mash
00:56:46 * Ysjoelfir wonders if he's suddenly to stupid to readout ADCs from ATMegas.... also steals some of steves mash
00:59:42 * T3sl4 bangerizes steve30
01:00:12 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir's adc ports
01:00:20 <steve30> Ysjoelfir, https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/is-this-damaged-tyre-safe.272462/
01:00:27 <steve30> there's the tyre from yesterday
01:02:12 <T3sl4> so you're saying you got tyred?
01:02:25 <Ysjoelfir> thats very strange oO also that thing is very thin imho oO
01:02:49 <Ampera> looks like someone nicked all your tread
01:07:52 <steve30> Road bike tyres aren't particularly thick
01:08:37 <Ampera> they look particularly slick
01:08:54 <Ampera> I wouldn't want to ride those on a particularly smooth, wet street
01:09:30 <Ysjoelfir> ah, I see. I am used to more.... standard Tyres
01:12:22 <Ampera> I have a mountain (ish) bike myself
01:12:44 <Ampera> Really nice one, it has center and front suspension, 18 speeds, though 12 of those were broken from the factory, all for a hundred bucks
01:19:15 <hsn> https://youtu.be/o8NOK1JJbgw?t=17 << why still win xp ?
01:25:23 <Ampera> why not windows 2000
01:37:41 <steve30> For road use tyres should be smooth
01:40:00 <Ampera> steve30, why should they be
01:41:11 <steve30> The tyre moulds to the shape of the road, causing it to grip. Fancy patterns just add rolling resistance and decrease grip.
01:42:38 <Ampera> I mean I can't say I've used smooth tires like that, but I can only imagine those slipping like mad on wet or especially icy ground
01:44:33 <steve30> they will slip in the ice like any tyre will
01:44:44 <steve30> Makes no difference on wet road.
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01:55:19 <hsn> lol ::: whats the point of lab suite if u have leg hair on the shop floor
01:55:20 <hsn> https://youtu.be/o8NOK1JJbgw?t=624
02:19:08 <hsn> https://youtu.be/nXkgbmr3dRA <---- esd is a myth T3sl4
02:19:22 * T3sl4 hypnotizes hsn
02:19:44 <hsn> they cant kill ram .. why ?
02:22:06 <T3sl4> idunno, luck?
02:22:55 * Ampera flips a duck, watches it land on T3sl4
02:22:58 <Ampera> heads or tails, T3sl4?
02:23:00 <hsn> it meens u can pass esd test easily .. by luck ? T3sl4 ?
02:23:08 <T3sl4> Ampera: goose
02:23:28 <T3sl4> did a project two years ago where they were having terrible problems with ESD, among other things they had a membrane keypad wired directly to an FPGA
02:23:37 <T3sl4> which was rated a mere 1kV ESD
02:23:49 <T3sl4> we were blasting that fucker with 8k+ and it didn't die
02:24:00 <T3sl4> got all kinds of discombobulated, but didn't die
02:24:09 <T3sl4> doesn't mean it'll handle that kind of abuse forever
02:24:19 <Ampera> Whenever I hear the term discombobulate it makes me think of TTT
02:24:21 <Ampera> I miss TTT
02:24:38 <Ampera> I should maybe think of playing it at some point. The only problem is it's not as fun when playing with randos
02:24:47 <Ampera> and getting enough people I know together to play it is a nightmare
02:25:19 <T3sl4> T_T
02:25:22 <hsn> T3sl4, maybe there is another magic path
02:25:28 <hsn> to mother earth ?
02:26:18 <Ampera> if earth is a mother, would drilling a hole into it make you a motherfucker?
02:26:47 <Ampera> The world may never know so long as the world don't snitch none
02:27:25 <hsn> Ampera, drill hole .. no ..
02:27:42 <hsn> u have to dig and put ur self into a hole ..
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02:29:33 <T3sl4> Ampera, only if plucking and inserting hairs into pores in your skin counts as sex
02:29:59 <Ampera> T3sl4, I don't discriminate against those who are not well endowed.
02:29:59 <T3sl4> hsn, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8hT3oDDf6c
02:30:15 <T3sl4> what do you mean, you discriminate against yourself every fucking day
02:31:11 <hsn> Ampera, we are all mother fuckers with all the polution we do :P
02:31:17 <Ampera> That's fine, the larger it is, the more painful it'd be when they try to shove it back inside of me.
02:31:53 <Ampera> Pollution is a myth like Wyoming is a myth.
02:33:05 <T3sl4> why ohming? because some people need continuity
02:36:18 <arch> T3sl4, did ya see my updated/fixed AOZ1073 build?
02:36:28 <T3sl4> no
02:36:33 <arch> i was so hype when i saw the transient load responses
02:36:38 <T3sl4> you scampered away before i could headpats you
02:37:29 <hsn> T3sl4, https://youtu.be/4SjOv_szzVM?t=477 <<< listen to linus making sense of having multiple GND pins on ddr interface ..
02:37:33 <hsn> xD
02:37:34 <T3sl4> oh, tho i remember the that waveform, that was orderly yeah
02:38:30 <arch> tldr: i made the analog ground and power gnd connect at a single point, and closely followed the datasheet recommendations. so it's not done with the loop comp right, so i just did a quick test by popping in 100nF cap across rc comp pin to gnd.
02:39:06 <arch> this is the 1.5A transient response output with a 100nF cap: https://i.imgur.com/DPfwIZQ.png
02:39:19 <arch> and changing the cap to 10nF instead results in this: https://i.imgur.com/WdlGPng.png
02:39:51 <arch> and the ripple on the output looks like this with proper probing vs improper probing: https://imgur.com/a/sdyardX
02:40:10 <arch> ignore the crappy thru hole inductor you see in the pic, that was just for testing purposes
02:41:20 <arch> looks like that 100nF capacitor is doing a JoJo pose
02:41:55 <arch> oho, you are approaching proper loop compensation? instead of oscillating like crazy, you are approaching stability! MUDAMUDAMUDA
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02:43:24 <T3sl4> yeah, keep dialing down the cap and tweak the R, probably get it to like 100mV or something
02:43:51 <T3sl4> 200us long transient isn't bad, uhh that thing runs like a MHz right, it can probably go a bit faster
02:44:08 <arch> 500kHz
02:45:16 <arch> but wow, it's crazy what proper grounding will do. the previous build wasn't stable at all no matter what i did because the agnd and pgnd were not connected at a single point, and the agnd pour was MASSIVE
02:47:24 <T3sl4> well, yeah
02:47:45 <arch> here, this is the comparison between board layout. very slight diff, but makes all the perf diff: https://imgur.com/a/vAsEh03
02:48:47 <arch> instead of agnd pour, it's a vcc pour (through the enable jumper)
02:49:13 <arch> i love this IC, only 1 jumper (overhead wire) needed really
02:51:57 <T3sl4> it's a popular pinout
02:53:01 <arch> does feedforward compensation (capacitor on upper feedback cap) have any drawbacks? from what i read, it's all good news
02:53:22 <arch> well, i'll cross that bridge when it's time. let me understand the basic feedback comp first
02:53:55 <arch> gotta do work now. im gonna mess with it after
02:54:14 <T3sl4> well, might make it unstable
02:54:18 <T3sl4> feeds more noise into the err amp
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05:21:30 <electrohead> o/
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05:27:45 <Ysjoelfir> No idea if that came through... I wished you a nice Afterpreevening, mr. head.... and then my ISP decided to "nope"
05:29:39 <electrohead> lol
05:29:49 <electrohead> your very last message went through
05:31:00 <Ysjoelfir> well, now you have it: Have a nice afterpreevening :)
05:32:16 <T3sl4> arch: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/randytransient.jpg
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06:04:17 <arch> T3sl4, https://i.imgur.com/qo4NHx5.png
06:21:54 <rust_collector> HELLO!
06:28:40 <T3sl4> :D
06:57:34 <DHess_US> They should have encouraged her to call the cops, https://imgur.com/gallery/bhjBfUI
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08:04:25 <Ysjoelfir> mornings rusty
08:05:45 <rust_collector> I hope it is an üppr morning
08:05:53 <Ysjoelfir> always!
08:06:12 <rust_collector> yes, I always hope. it never works
08:06:23 <rust_collector> maybe nxt time
08:06:58 <Ysjoelfir> Oh, why not? I found out that using 12V to power a 3.3V LCD is not the best thing I did recently, so that alone was ueppr!
08:07:36 <rust_collector> heh, I would think it would just be 3 times as fast?
08:08:58 <Ysjoelfir> well, it worked for a few minutes, then suddenly one line faded away. I thought I fucked something up in the code. Later the second line started to fade as well, but I only found out what the problem was when I replaced the complete thing... xD
08:09:36 <rust_collector> I still say it is a software issue
08:11:09 <rust_collector> it is always software
08:11:15 <Ysjoelfir> yes, the software should have warned me!
08:11:21 <rust_collector> that too
08:12:47 <rust_collector> talking about software. kid #3 sent me a picture of an arduino with x wires, 2 resistors, and a black box with white trumpet looking things on the side, where the wires go into it.
08:13:18 <rust_collector> so I have to make a diagram of that
08:13:51 <rust_collector> turns out the black box has an led, and an ldr in it
08:14:15 <Ysjoelfir> Cool :) Sounds like she's going in the right direction :D
08:14:20 <rust_collector> anyway, I tried tinycad this time. so far it seems ok-ish
08:16:18 <Ysjoelfir> You should get a license for altium!
08:16:38 <rust_collector> I sort of doubt that, for some reason
08:16:43 <Ysjoelfir> :P
08:19:19 <rust_collector> this tinycad has to be awesome, as it is a windows program
08:19:44 <Ysjoelfir> Altium is that as well!
08:20:12 <rust_collector> well, they can not get it right every time
08:20:36 <Ysjoelfir> XD
08:21:46 <rust_collector> well, seems to work ok under wine. and it doe not feel like it is full of crap. I think I will try it for a bit
08:22:03 <Ysjoelfir> I heard that most things work better with a bit of wine
08:22:12 <rust_collector> whine
08:22:21 <Ysjoelfir> THAT tends to make stuff worse
08:22:26 <rust_collector> oh
08:22:55 <rust_collector> well, at least it makes it worser for the office people than for me. so that is fine
08:23:35 <Ysjoelfir> Hehe
08:25:20 <rust_collector> heh. software... on monday and tuesday, I got a new mercedes. I wonder how long that thing will work, and I hope it gets a nice error message, maybe syntax error, or something like that. it has no mirrors, it has buttons, but they only do things you never need, all the useful things are hidden in menus on a touchscreen
08:26:29 <rust_collector> it did handle pretty well, but having "mirrors" with a slight lag was pretty annoying
08:26:30 <Ysjoelfir> I hate touchscreens in stuff like that
08:26:37 <Ysjoelfir> ew
08:26:53 <Ysjoelfir> I can immagine that to be very annoying
08:27:21 <rust_collector> if I open the door, to look at the rear, the brakes turn on... BOOM!
08:27:31 <Ysjoelfir> o.o
08:27:42 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds pretty dangerous
08:28:00 <Ysjoelfir> I mean they should know that its neccessary from time to time to physically look back
08:29:14 <rust_collector> I wonder how long it will take before someone gets hurt pretty bad, and if the driver gets away with it, because he has no real way of doing things safely
08:29:28 <rust_collector> interesting times
08:29:37 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
08:29:57 <rust_collector> well, that was 2 days, and I am not going to drive that thing again. so that is fine
08:30:38 <Ysjoelfir> XD did you go back and be like "I won't drive that shit ever again!"?
08:30:45 <rust_collector> btw, gworgs favourite shower place is full of snow
08:31:03 <Ysjoelfir> Is it?^^
08:31:31 <rust_collector> well, more or less. I just told them that they did not need to give me that trip as long as they used that thing.
08:31:35 <rust_collector> yes, it is.
08:32:13 <rust_collector> Nothing too special, but I guess 60-70 cm all over
08:32:41 <Ysjoelfir> Hehe :) I would probably be the same. give me an old mercedes 509 if needed, but I would like to "feel" what I drive, and have direct control about it.
08:33:00 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds nice. You should make pictures next time you pass by :P
08:33:31 <rust_collector> well, there is an issue with that,because they are probably using that truck until the snow is gone
08:33:54 <Ysjoelfir> ew :X
08:34:49 <rust_collector> I believe the road will open in may. so we will go back to the truck/trailer again
08:35:59 <Ysjoelfir> So its closed atm?
08:36:09 <rust_collector> they are working on it
08:36:40 <rust_collector> it was closed before you came here, and they closed it again after the summer, to do some more work
08:37:30 <rust_collector> the little bit from seljord, next to the lake, towards bø
08:39:18 <Ysjoelfir> Ah, we saw people working there. Was pretty interesting compared to german roadworks... like "Hey, we're working on that road, but its ok if you want to pass by, just wait a sec until we moved ALL THE STUFF away". Over here its more like "Oh, you need to go here? YOU KNOW WHAT!? I DONT CARE, FUCK OFF!" xD
08:39:44 <rust_collector> Not that I know why they are doing all that work, because it is not really getting that much better, and it was not really bad to start with
08:40:19 <rust_collector> you people are lucky, at least they talk to you, lol
08:41:05 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
08:42:18 <rust_collector> people in that area is pretty easy to deal with. at least until they are not, but then you would be a missing person, and..things
08:43:08 <Ysjoelfir> o.o
08:44:54 <rust_collector> but as long as you don't annoy them that much, they are in general very nice
08:46:17 <rust_collector> nono, it is no problem, I just make dad drive his tractor here, which takes a good hour. so come and have some coffee
08:46:55 <rust_collector> they do make good cookies up there too
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08:54:53 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds indeed like nice people xD
08:59:47 <Ysjoelfir> I am going to build a woodworking bench in the upcomming weeks. Already a bit excited....
09:00:06 <Ysjoelfir> Also I got some new used tools. and some new unused ones as well
09:00:08 <rust_collector> mhmhmhmhmhmmmm
09:00:33 * electrohead waves
09:00:51 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know why, but I felt the need to get this axe. It somehow looked.... "Have-worthy"
09:00:51 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.ebay.de/itm/313401461109?ViewItem=&item=313401461109&utm_source=unp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PPX000600&utm_unptid=842c03d0-7245-11eb-b382-b875c0ae3500&ppid=PPX000600&cnac=NL&rsta=nl_NL&cust=9E215601RD727002G&unptid=842c03d0-7245-11eb-b382-b875c0ae3500&calc=1338afc27d395&unp_tpcid=email-auction-payment-notification&page=main:email:PPX000600:::&pgrp=main:email&e=cl&mchn=em&s=ci&mail=sys&xt=104038&unp_adv=false
09:01:02 * Ysjoelfir grabs mr. head and waves with him
09:01:03 * rust_collector throw forks and spoons at electrohead
09:01:45 <electrohead> lol
09:01:51 <electrohead> hey guys :p
09:02:07 <rust_collector> hey you
09:02:14 <Ysjoelfir> mr. head, do you like my axe?
09:02:21 <rust_collector> looks small axe-y
09:02:43 <Ysjoelfir> thats fine, I wanted a.... the small axe thing. Beil in german, no idea what its in english
09:03:03 <Ysjoelfir> hatchet?
09:03:12 <rust_collector> yes, I think so
09:04:24 <rust_collector> unless you are felling trees, or splitting firewood, there is not very much use for a large axe
09:05:24 <Ysjoelfir> exactly, thats why I wanted the small one, for rough carving stuff. Like I watched some videos about people building mallets, and they very often use a hatchet for the first, quick shaping. I like the idea and want to try that out
09:05:43 * T3sl4 axes Ysjoelfir a question
09:06:15 <Ysjoelfir> :P
09:08:08 <rust_collector> eeh, you can do a pretty good job if you have a sharp axe. not if you grind it like a splitting axe, but if you look at it more like a swing-chisel...
09:08:19 <T3sl4> hmmm, think i'll coffee
09:08:55 <T3sl4> afraid i have nothing axe-ial to contribute to this conversation :P
09:09:24 <Ysjoelfir> Yep, thats what I thought. I also got a sharpening.... rotating wet stone thing. Like a Tormek, just in cheap. I tried doing it by hand with regular wetstones many times, but I am just to stupid xD
09:09:36 <Ysjoelfir> lol T3sl4 :P Go get caffeinated ;P
09:10:02 <rust_collector> https://www.ebay.nl/itm/Planimeter-Keuffel-Esser/313430864831?hash=item48f9ef73bf:g:qZAAAOSw8ZJgNj5H
09:10:12 <electrohead> lol
09:10:19 <T3sl4> ah, although sharpening is something i have an opinion on
09:10:19 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: I do like your axe :P
09:10:32 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
09:10:35 <T3sl4> but i just use a diamond coated steel plate thingy, works fine :P
09:10:59 <Ysjoelfir> I tried that as well, but for some reason I just never succeed. Everzthing I try to sharpen gets just more dull xD
09:11:24 <T3sl4> including your wit
09:11:31 * T3sl4 sips from the coffee
09:11:34 <Ysjoelfir> I like the shop, rusty. No idea what that thing is though
09:11:39 * Ysjoelfir googles what a wit is
09:11:53 <Ysjoelfir> ah. yes, definitely
09:11:54 <rust_collector> and when you are done with that, you go to the alumnium sheet, with 4 micron diamond gloop on it
09:12:19 <T3sl4> mmm, lapping
09:12:46 <Ysjoelfir> the thing has actually a leather strop wheel on it. should be enough for tool grade sharpness?
09:13:19 <rust_collector> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Planimeter
09:13:35 <rust_collector> sure
09:14:19 <Ysjoelfir> ah, interesting. oO I never thought such a thing exists. cool. No idea what I would use that for, but....
09:14:28 * Ysjoelfir puts that into the "buy later" list
09:14:55 <rust_collector> you can use it to find the area of a country, on a map
09:15:12 <Ysjoelfir> that is probably very usefull!
09:15:15 <T3sl4> but can you use it to find the perimeter of a country?
09:16:09 <rust_collector> no, that is illegal. "they" are afraid we will figure out that "belgium" and other such places really do not exist
09:19:06 <T3sl4> i knew it!
09:19:40 <rust_collector> what?
09:20:03 <rust_collector> we all know that, we are just not allowed to
09:30:06 <coppice> T3sl4: don't you know the perimeter of a country it infinite? Its a fractal
09:30:24 <T3sl4> thatsthejoke.png
09:38:07 <rust_collector> that is what they say.... oh well
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09:54:15 <rust_collector> heh, I sent the circuit to kid #3, and asked what it was supposed to do...
09:54:26 <Ysjoelfir> response was?^^
09:54:36 <rust_collector> it is a kolorimeter
09:55:00 <rust_collector> not sure what that is in a real language, or any other language
09:55:25 <Ysjoelfir> what does it do? :D
09:55:41 <rust_collector> eeh, school things, I guess
09:56:29 <rust_collector> Colorimeter is an apparatus for determining the concentration of chemical solutions . This is done by comparing the color strength of two solutions, one of which has a known concentration.
09:57:46 <rust_collector> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Colorimeter_(chemistry)
10:00:30 <Ysjoelfir> Thats interesting
10:00:36 <Ysjoelfir> nice project :D
10:01:50 <rust_collector> so, I guess she is into drugs or something
10:01:57 <Ysjoelfir> XD
10:05:10 <Ysjoelfir> Nice :) I enjoy seeing young people getting into electronics
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10:06:03 <rust_collector> it is sad that they used different colour wires. they should all be purple or green
10:06:57 <Ysjoelfir> I actually once had the "honor" to critizise a device that had only blue wires. everything was blue.
10:07:29 <rust_collector> but... I wonder what the program looks like. maybe t just prints values to the console, but..
10:08:14 <Ysjoelfir> thats a very good question
10:08:23 <rust_collector> I had fun trying to fix the trailer wiring on a ford, and all the wires were red
10:08:29 <Ysjoelfir> ew
10:09:24 <rust_collector> many red wires, goes into a hole, then comes out in a different place. some of them went to a relay... I dunno
10:09:42 <Ysjoelfir> oh thats just great. why would they do that?
10:10:23 <rust_collector> turns out there was nothing wrong with it, but it was the new style 13 pin thing, with an adapter to 7 pin, that had been on there since 2002
10:10:55 <Ysjoelfir> lol
10:11:46 <Ysjoelfir> when we were in rustyland I actually managed to ripp off the trailer connector from the folding tent trailer
10:12:10 <Ysjoelfir> good thing was that I actually had 2 new 7 pin plugs in the tool bag...
10:12:16 <rust_collector> yeees. I think you mentioned that. sounds like a great idea
10:13:00 <rust_collector> the new wifemobile has the 13 pin. but I don't know of any trailers with that
10:13:31 <Ysjoelfir> most you can rent here have that, but they were obviously retrofitted
10:13:51 <Ysjoelfir> thats the reason I replaced the 7 pin one on the volvo with a 13 pin one
10:14:09 <rust_collector> but I am thinking about putting a 13 pin on my trailer. it is just a much better connector
10:14:48 <Ysjoelfir> it absulutely is. I like the... twisty locking thing much more than the "let the cap of the connector secure it" thing of the old one
10:15:32 <rust_collector> and it is sealed much better, even with nothing plugged in
10:16:13 <rust_collector> I just do not like that it is a new thing
10:16:26 <Ysjoelfir> xD
10:16:45 <Ysjoelfir> and probably also because it doesn't rust so quickly, right?
10:17:23 <rust_collector> I can not say I have had the old ones rusting either
10:17:34 <Ysjoelfir> erm
10:17:35 <Ysjoelfir> one sec
10:17:35 <rust_collector> just the bracket they are stuck to
10:17:58 <rust_collector> they do get crusty, but not rusty
10:18:43 * electrohead solders rust_collector and Ysjoelfir together
10:19:03 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/18EJ7vQ2KvlV0RBddbQcB6kvwdrzW6Kkp/view?usp=sharing
10:19:57 <rust_collector> baaack in the _ddr laaaaaalalala
10:20:13 <Ysjoelfir> exactly^^
10:20:26 <rust_collector> all mine are cheap plastic. but the contacts look ok-ish?
10:21:43 <Ysjoelfir> they are steel with a bakelite carrier, also the plug housing is steel as well. the middle pin was rusted on the inside and was a bit iffy all the time. but a good cleaning should have made it work again, yes
10:22:21 <Ysjoelfir> But I had those with me, so I used them. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wYqzK8hXelUF4CPliEZ0R8iaHAyB9BoO/view?usp=sharing
10:23:18 <rust_collector> fancy underpants-y
10:23:40 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
10:23:52 * Ysjoelfir steals all of electrohead 's beer
10:25:07 <rust_collector> I miss these things: https://verne.no/privat/vbg-kontakt-14-pol-tilhengerkontakt
10:25:40 <Ysjoelfir> I have seen them, but only on pictures
10:26:01 <Ysjoelfir> wait, what!? 1093 crowns? is that thing made from gold!?
10:27:43 <rust_collector> eeh. maybe
10:29:47 <rust_collector> they are pretty chunky. I think they are rated to 25A at "24" volts. per pin
10:30:34 <Ysjoelfir> Thats indeed chunky
10:31:48 <rust_collector> you can run many led marker lights on that
10:35:47 <Ysjoelfir> definitely :P
10:36:14 <Ysjoelfir> I think i'll go to bed. mrs. spouse wants me to clean the balcony tomorrow. meh.
10:36:21 <Ysjoelfir> so, have enjoys and an ueppr night :)
10:36:40 <rust_collector> uuh, what did you do this time?
10:36:51 <Ysjoelfir> nothing, I swear
10:36:58 * arch stabs T3sl4 with a rusty spoon
10:37:01 <rust_collector> eehright...
10:37:12 * T3sl4 touches arch's spoon
10:37:31 <rust_collector> you do not get told to clean the baclony in february if you did nothing
10:37:39 <arch> you touch my tralala
10:38:06 <Ysjoelfir> its actually +15 around here atm... so... its fine.
10:38:12 <Ysjoelfir> but as I said, gn8 all :)
10:38:18 <rust_collector> night
10:39:59 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: we just got some new stuff in, too
10:40:22 <electrohead> will be trying this, tonight - https://www.flyingfish.com/ipc-stout/
10:43:42 <rust_collector> why banned hsn?
10:43:59 <electrohead> he's banned?
10:44:27 <rust_collector> well, I have not seen him today, so I assume he is
10:47:19 <electrohead> no, he's in the channel
10:47:48 <rust_collector> maybe he is banned on the other end
10:48:00 <electrohead> or, maybe he's not around
10:48:02 <electrohead> :p
10:49:33 <rust_collector> nah, i don't think so
10:50:48 <rust_collector> I think the king was fed up and had him... put in storage
10:52:16 <electrohead> lol
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13:50:15 <arch> T3sl4, i swapped out the 10nF with a 1nF. it responds much faster, but rings slightly
13:53:14 <arch> https://imgur.com/a/Ewak8xZ
13:53:55 <arch> sooo my sweet spot capacitor is probably somewhere above 1nF, but below 10nF
13:54:07 <arch> im waiting for my decade capacitor and resistor boxes to arrive so i can speed things up
13:54:50 <arch> so transient response time to get back to normal is less than 60us with the 1nF comp cap
13:55:39 <arch> let me try with 2.2nF, i have a good feeling that should do the trick
14:02:34 <arch> interesting, very interesting. stable on the down transient, but not stable on the uptransient: https://i.imgur.com/uZL5vkO.png
14:04:41 <arch> swapping with 3.3nf now
14:06:38 * electrohead tosses in a random valued resistor
14:09:45 <arch> 3.3nf slightly improved the downtransient, but nothing much changed with uptransient: https://i.imgur.com/g7XZ19r.png
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14:31:25 <arch> OMMGGG OMGGG
14:31:29 <arch> T3sl4, !!!
14:32:14 <arch> https://imgur.com/evqtY3v.png OMGGG, i cant believe this waveform
14:33:14 <arch> those are the values i calculated from following the equations given in the datasheet
14:33:19 <arch> aaaand...drumrollll
14:33:42 <electrohead> everything works as expected, now?
14:33:44 <electrohead> lol
14:33:59 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/DZq6Imu.png
14:34:05 <arch> yeah
14:34:09 <arch> im so HYPEEEED
14:34:44 <arch> i mean, it can still be improved some more i think
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14:39:51 <arch> considering i didnt use their recommended inductor values, it's pretty nice
14:40:18 <arch> used 10uH, but they used and recommended 4.7uH in the datasheet
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19:41:38 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
19:45:11 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
19:45:15 <Watcher> hello
19:45:16 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Watcher!
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20:09:54 <hsn> ola
20:10:56 <Ysjoelfir> mornings hsn
20:11:05 <hsn> morn Ysjoelfir
20:11:32 <hsn> how is u doing today
20:11:53 <Ysjoelfir> pretty good, thanks. you?
20:12:39 <hsn> im good also
20:13:45 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, do u know where i can find "end of life" stuff for microchip parts ?
20:14:08 <hsn> like .. should i choose this thing if i want it to be supplied for next 15 years or somthing
20:14:11 <Ysjoelfir> you mean like the information for when a part enters EOL?
20:14:17 <hsn> yes
20:14:22 <Ysjoelfir> ah. yes, then.,... no idea :D
20:14:27 <hsn> lol
20:14:34 <hsn> thanks
20:16:30 <steve30> morning
20:16:41 <hsn> morning steve30
20:20:58 <Watcher> hsn can you not email the manufacter? i know it is not fine but that you have the information
20:21:25 <Halcyon> Evening all
20:21:57 <steve30> hi Halcyon
20:22:03 <Halcyon> Hey steve30 :)
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20:38:57 <steve30> I'm just ordering bike parts
20:39:51 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
20:39:59 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
20:40:01 <Halcyon> How's it going?
20:40:05 <Ampera> yes
20:40:15 <Ampera> how are you are
20:40:31 <Halcyon> Eh, fine. How are you?
20:40:37 <Ampera> yes
20:40:46 <Halcyon> I got to do a bit of real police work today
20:40:59 <Ampera> You got to beat up an unarmed black guy?
20:41:02 <Ampera> cool
20:41:06 <Halcyon> Nah he was white
20:41:11 <Halcyon> Got into a pursuit on the way home
20:41:31 <Ampera> did you pursue him in your car or was someone giving you a ride home
20:41:43 <Halcyon> I was driving a work car
20:41:53 <Ampera> what was he doing
20:42:03 <Halcyon> Running other cars off the road, smashing into things
20:42:04 <Ampera> driving under the influence of being white?
20:42:07 <Ampera> ah
20:42:14 <Halcyon> Probably off his face on something
20:42:27 <Ysjoelfir> I hope you got out the camcorder and made a nice video for us?
20:42:36 <Halcyon> Haha Ysjoelfir I was a bit busy :P
20:42:44 <Ampera> Yes I did, Ysjoelfir, I shot a video of a hawk eating a small animal in my back yard
20:42:47 <Ysjoelfir> whaaaaaaat? shame on you! XD
20:43:03 <Ysjoelfir> uh, nice Ampera :D
20:44:16 <Halcyon> Did you ever catch that mole or badger Ampera?
20:44:18 <Halcyon> Whatever it was
20:44:36 <Ampera> groundhog, you foreigner
20:44:37 * steve30 browses cute cycling tops
20:44:47 <Halcyon> Well SOR-RY
20:44:49 <Ampera> no, closest I got was about 30 seconds away from blowing its head of
20:44:56 <Ampera> *off
20:45:00 <Halcyon> Aww too slow :P
20:45:19 <Ampera> I had decided instead of killing it instantly to go ask permission, but I have it understood now
20:45:27 <Halcyon> steve30: For you or is this for some talent you picked up?
20:45:34 <Ampera> so if it comes back, I'll see if I can crack a window and take it from the upper levels
20:45:39 <Halcyon> Did it fuck off or has it been back?
20:45:43 <K> hello meats
20:45:44 <Halcyon> Heheh
20:45:46 <Ampera> back every so often
20:45:50 <Halcyon> Evening rissole
20:45:55 <steve30> for me, although I'm not buying one now, I need to spend the money of cables and brake pads and tyres.
20:45:56 <Ampera> I also have a large trap in my yard, but it's currently winter so he's probably hibernating
20:47:17 <Halcyon> Stupid winter
20:47:26 <Halcyon> I can already feel summer slipping away :(
20:47:42 <steve30> Its coming here. Its nice and sunny and tepid outside :)
20:47:43 <Ampera> what are you complaining about, it barely even snows over there
20:48:44 <Halcyon> So? I like the sun. I hate the cold and the wet
20:49:06 <steve30> Maybe now would be a good time to send over those hot beech guys...
20:49:23 <Halcyon> Heh
20:49:28 <Halcyon> For you to borrow Steve?
20:49:32 <hsn> Halcyon, u should try the real sun
20:49:34 <steve30> yup
20:49:44 <Halcyon> hsn: We get enough of the real sun here hsn
20:49:55 <Halcyon> Burns the fuck out of your skin
20:49:57 <hsn> its bithc
20:50:23 <Halcyon> There is a reason sun cream is everywhere and readily available for free
20:50:49 * steve30 got sunburn last year
20:50:50 <hsn> here lots dont care about sun cream thingy
20:53:22 * steve30 hasn't used suncream for years
20:58:32 <Ysjoelfir> I used it once or twice. Hate that stuff.
21:10:23 <steve30> i have used it before, and it has protected me from sunburn, so i know it works.
21:26:00 <Lord_of_nothing_> Grüss Gott everyone
21:26:08 <Lord_of_nothing_> Is everyone here freh?
21:26:13 <Lord_of_nothing_> fresh?!
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21:48:50 <steve30> Just got a monotonous robocall saying that "my amazon prime subscription is going to automatically renew at seventy nine point nine nine from my bank account if i want to discuss it i should talk to amazon customer services by pressing one"
21:50:21 <Halcyon> Ampera
21:52:19 <steve30> why do they always use those creepy monotonous voices?
21:52:43 <Halcyon> Another Odysee exclusive video: https://odysee.com/@eevblog:7/2021-02-24-Atem-Mini-Pro-Iso-Teardown:f
21:52:52 <Halcyon> I am actually really liking this platform
21:53:06 <steve30> ooh, i'll watch that later
21:53:21 <steve30> I want to set up a LBRY channel, but I need LBRY credits
21:53:53 <steve30> I should probably buy some, but when I was figuring out how it all worked, I couldn't be bothered.
22:04:11 <steve30> Halcyon, https://blog.jimmyr.com/For_Sale_Useless_Cat_16_2008.php
23:35:17 * electrohead yawns and points at random people
23:35:42 * Ampera yawns and screams at electrohead
23:35:48 <steve30> o/
23:35:50 <electrohead> \o/
23:36:14 <steve30> Just got another call from "amazon". Apparently I bought an iPhone for £700.
23:36:17 <Ampera> \/\/ <> \/\/ <> |<
23:36:32 <Ampera> why'd you do that steve30?
23:36:36 <Ampera> iPhones aren't even real computers
23:36:44 <steve30> i didn't. Just a scam call.
23:37:28 <Ampera> why are you, electrohead?
23:39:37 <electrohead> ?
23:42:25 <Ampera> why are you, electrohead?
23:42:36 <steve30> why are you, ampera?
23:42:41 <Ampera> many reasons
23:43:02 <Ampera> money, deliberation, vehicular recreation
23:44:07 <electrohead> me?
23:44:14 <electrohead> because ... yes
23:44:24 <Ampera> sorry to hear that
23:44:29 <electrohead> lol
23:44:45 <Ampera> I hope are you newer better
23:44:57 <electrohead> newer or never?
23:45:05 <Ampera> or
23:45:53 <Ampera> Occasion of many time, that tomorrow yes create, but always no newer never
23:46:17 * electrohead smacks some sense in Ampera
23:47:00 <rust_collector> heh, good luck
23:47:25 <Ampera> I know, right? I can't even understand a word he's saying
23:48:46 * electrohead desolders Ampera into pieces
23:50:04 <Ampera> Solder, when the next understanding is of a liquid, an immediate conservation of conversation, covnertializes the cosnervicy
23:53:43 <electrohead> so, I just send the following to a seller on ebay - "WHERE. THE. FUCK. IS. THAT. PACKAGE? It's going on a god damn month, and you bullshitted me into believing you would do something about it. Just resend the items, I'm sick and tired of playing games."
23:53:54 <electrohead> I hope they listen this time
23:53:59 <electrohead> sent*
23:54:00 <Ampera> what did you buy
23:54:30 <electrohead> 2x ESP32-CAM
23:54:52 <Ampera> you should be cool
23:54:53 <Ampera> and buy beef
23:54:57 <Ampera> to dry it into biltong
23:54:58 <Ampera> like me
23:55:26 <electrohead> how about you send me some, along with those noodles? :P
23:55:50 <Ampera> I haven't forgotten about the noodles, I just don't go to that supermarket very often
23:56:26 <rust_collector> dried cow. that sounds good
23:56:26 <Ampera> The amount I have is limited, and I'm making sure the recipe is not lethal before I send people any
23:56:54 <Ampera> It takes at least 10 days just to make one batch
23:57:15 <electrohead> damn
23:57:26 <electrohead> well, I imagine it will taste pretty good
23:57:33 <Ampera> It does, the present one is done
23:57:43 <Ampera> half of it will be sent to some family members who are less likely to sue me if they get botulism
23:58:08 <Ampera> I'm also personally eating some of the batch before I send it to make sure it's in general good
23:58:18 * Ampera does not fuck around with raw meat
23:59:21 <electrohead> heh
23:59:24 * electrohead offers sushi
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