// #eevblog — 2021-02-07
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00:19:25 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
00:24:10 * Ampera hugs steve30
00:38:48 <electrohead> o/
00:38:57 * Ampera snaps electrohead right the fuck in two
00:38:59 * Ampera hugs both parts
00:39:10 <electrohead> ???
00:39:29 <Ampera> my mind is enjoying the idea of snapping things right the fuck in two
00:39:49 <Ampera> think how satisfying it is to snap sticks and bits of wood into pieces, now imagine how satisfying it'd be if you
00:39:51 <Ampera> could do that to a person
00:39:54 <electrohead> you keep that up, and I'll.. I'll..
00:40:00 <electrohead> hug your face
00:40:02 <electrohead> lol :P
00:40:08 <Ampera> sounds nice
00:40:15 * Ampera snaps electrohead's face right the fuck in two
00:40:27 <electrohead> you keep that up, and I'll.. I'll..
00:40:28 Quit: clarkos ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
00:40:29 <electrohead> hug your face
00:40:35 <Ampera> electrohead, out of curiosity, do you have any memory of NYNEX?
00:40:49 <Ampera> I know you'd have probably had bell atlantic, but was wondering if you ever had any other friends in NY on the net
00:40:50 <electrohead> not no more, I'm in four pieces, now
00:40:51 <Ampera> who complained about them
00:41:07 <electrohead> (sorry for the back to back puns)
00:41:16 <Ampera> you're the first person in here to apologize for that
00:41:33 <electrohead> because I'm special :P
00:41:34 <Ampera> Please remain the last
00:42:00 <electrohead> nah, not really any memory of NYNEX, though
00:43:05 <Ampera> They weren't around for long in the grand scheme of things, a bit under 20 years
00:43:33 <Ampera> and I have no family or friends here old enough to really know much about them, the 80's and 90's were not good times for New York
00:43:52 <Ampera> a lot of big companies, notably GE, left our area, and everyone suffered hard
00:46:08 <T3sl4> mmm, breakfast tacos
00:46:36 <steve30> I think I'll have a shower and go to bed soon
00:46:37 <Ampera> I might have a taco for breakfast in a bit
00:46:48 <T3sl4> egg, onion, green pepper and mushroom, plus tomato, avocado, olive and cottage cheese topping
00:46:56 <Ampera> it's not a breakfast taco, as in not made with breakfast ingredients, but it's just a taco for breakfast
00:47:17 <T3sl4> also a fine choice
00:47:55 <electrohead> hey T3sl4 o/
00:48:01 * T3sl4 hugs electrohead
00:48:07 * electrohead hugs T3sl4
00:48:13 <T3sl4> \o/
00:48:13 * electrohead hugs steve30 for the hell of it, too
00:48:18 <electrohead> \o>
00:48:37 <electrohead> EEVBlog: help
00:48:49 <electrohead> Ampera: did you write a help file for the bot or anything?
00:48:56 <Ampera> do eevblog help
00:49:17 <Ysjoelfir> why don't i get a hug? :(
00:49:24 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir right the fuck in two
00:49:25 * steve30 collapses on electrohead
00:49:26 * electrohead hugs Ysjoelfir
00:49:34 <Ysjoelfir> \\\o///
00:49:35 <electrohead> EEVBlog help
00:50:11 <electrohead> eevblog help
00:50:16 <electrohead> nah, nothing
00:50:23 <Ampera> I think I'm going to end up adopting C# as my language of choice for Linux/desktop use. I've tried to make software in C for years, but I always just gave up on it because I wanted everything perfect
00:50:41 * electrohead points to python
00:50:44 <electrohead> >.>
00:50:44 <Ampera> I hate python
00:50:51 <Ampera> considerably so
00:50:55 <electrohead> why, though?
00:51:45 <Ampera> I don't like how dependencies work, I don't like interpreted languages, I don't like the syntax, I don't like the whitespace matters rules, I don't like its community, and I especially want to snap the people who do shit like language specific package managers right the fuck in two
00:52:47 <T3sl4> EEVBlog help
00:52:59 <K> there is no help/
00:53:17 <Ampera> I'm not a huge fan of C# either, to be honest. It's got an overly simplistic build system, with things like config options just not being common or existing, it's got fractured dependency implementations almost worse than Java, and it just has terrible design philosophies and restrictions
00:53:30 <Ampera> like the near absence of proper 64-bit language support for things like arrays.
00:53:45 <Ampera> Primitives not being nullable by default is also annoying
00:53:52 <electrohead> make your own language up, then?
00:54:06 <Ampera> let me hate everything god dammit
00:54:14 <electrohead> No, you're a towel!
00:54:20 <Ampera> I like C, because it's simple, but I'm just too stupid to use it efficiently.
00:54:30 <electrohead> lol
00:54:35 <Ampera> C++ might be a nice compromise, but I use C# for work, which is why I'm inclined to use it more
00:59:49 <electrohead> ahh
00:59:57 <electrohead> I haven't used C# yet, ever
01:00:24 <electrohead> used C++ in the past, hacked at C code from time to time
01:00:27 <electrohead> but, no C#
01:03:04 <Ampera> C# is very similar to Java, but is a bit less bloated.
01:03:37 <Ampera> It's a bytecode VM just like Java, with a runtime and everything, and some really nice tools available for it.
01:31:13 <electrohead> I always hated java :P
01:35:55 <Ampera> Java was my first real language, the bot is written in it actually
01:37:51 * steve30 <3 BASIC
01:38:07 <Ampera> TIL steve30 is a BASIC bitch <3
01:38:36 <electrohead> basic is nice :D
01:54:09 <electrohead> EEVBlog: convert 2.6C to F
01:54:17 <electrohead> EEVBlog: convert 2.6 C to F
01:54:23 <electrohead> EEVBlog convert 2.6 C to F
01:54:32 <electrohead> Ampera: is your bot broke?
01:54:33 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog convert 2,6c to f
01:54:33 <Ampera> eevblog convert 2.6c to f
01:54:42 <Ampera> eevblog convert 2.6c to f
01:54:42 <Ysjoelfir> öppls öole pt
01:54:45 <Ampera> wtf
01:54:49 <Ysjoelfir> .... >_>
01:54:55 <Ampera> eevblog status
01:54:56 * Ysjoelfir shifts his right hand a bit to the left
01:55:02 <Ysjoelfir> *looks like it
01:55:05 <Ampera> eevblog Debug and Version
01:55:09 <Ampera> eevblog kill yourself
01:55:13 <electrohead> lol
01:55:15 <Ampera> that is odd
01:55:28 <Ampera> congrats electrohead, you're the first person to have ever broken the bot
01:55:35 <electrohead> \o/
01:55:37 Quit: EEVBlog ([email protected]) Connection closed
01:55:47 <Ampera> that's bizzare
01:55:55 <Ampera> the moment I -R'd into the screen it's running in, it stopped
01:56:07 <electrohead> LOL - I just got a message from EEVBlog, right before it quit
01:56:10 <electrohead> EEVBot's Commands, to use put these after EEVBlog, like "EEVBlog Help".
01:56:12 <electrohead> :D
01:56:20 <electrohead> (in a private message)
01:56:24 <Ampera> I think what might have happened is screen was preventing it from executing or something
01:56:33 <Ampera> like it was causing some sort of hang situation
01:56:48 <electrohead> were you using redirection at all, or anything?
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01:56:53 <Ampera> no
01:56:54 Quit: EEVBlog ([email protected]) Changing hosts
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01:57:01 <Ampera> it's just running as a standard console program in screen
01:57:08 <electrohead> EEVBlog: convert 2.6 C to F
01:57:14 <electrohead> EEVBlog: convert 2.6C to F
01:57:18 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 2.6 c to f
01:57:19 <electrohead> EEVBlog: help
01:57:19 <EEVBlog> The result is: 36.68 f
01:57:27 <Ampera> you can't use colons
01:57:37 <electrohead> you should fix that :p
01:57:52 <Ampera> I've been planning to rewrite the bot for ages, but it's just not a priority
01:57:55 <Ampera> the parser is quite basic
01:57:59 <electrohead> just a regular expression to strip common characters used in IRC clients, such as - : ,
01:58:08 <Ampera> I'm aware
01:58:18 <electrohead> EEVBlog help
01:59:29 <electrohead> cool, thanks
01:59:32 <electrohead> ;)
01:59:48 <Ampera> the problem is every bit of effort I put in the bot could be put into rewriting it in a less stupid language
01:59:54 <electrohead> :) *
02:00:12 <electrohead> I have a confession to make.
02:00:16 <Ampera> but rewriting the entire bot is difficult, especially since there's a lot of abstracted parts that would need to be replaced like IRC and twitter libraries
02:00:27 <Ampera> if you're telling us you're gay, we already knew
02:00:32 <electrohead> lmao
02:00:34 <electrohead> nah
02:00:40 <electrohead> but, seriously though, you ready for this?
02:00:44 <Ampera> no
02:00:47 <Ampera> but go ahead anyways
02:01:02 <electrohead> #testingch712712
02:01:03 <electrohead> join that
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02:04:23 <steve30> i think i'll try and sleep
02:13:02 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: https://www.upwork.com/jobs/Electrical-Engineer-Needed-Advance-Technology_~01b599192c8265653f/
02:13:32 <Ysjoelfir> Access denied
02:13:32 <Ysjoelfir> This job is private. Only freelancers invited by client can view this job.
02:13:41 <Ysjoelfir> Looks like I am not good enough for that :P
02:14:51 <T3sl4> oh weird, it was just on the list
02:15:14 <T3sl4> wait does it have to be the link link https://www.upwork.com/jobs/~01b599192c8265653f
02:16:04 <Ysjoelfir> nope, still not
02:16:06 <Ampera> "Only freelancers located in the US may apply"
02:16:08 <Ampera> RIP Ysjoelfir
02:16:20 <Ysjoelfir> ah. lol :P
02:16:21 <T3sl4> i suppose
02:16:30 <Ysjoelfir> so what is it?
02:16:45 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/KPtyaGV.png
02:19:15 <T3sl4> ahh now i see why steve30 likes it https://i.imgur.com/SHZpxmK.jpg
02:25:05 <Ysjoelfir> Oh, I have actually seen that one T3sl4, must have been "not location restricted" before
02:25:11 <Ysjoelfir> and I love that covid pic :P
02:30:12 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/dq7V0fF.jpg
02:30:26 <rust_collector> blah, you love everything that has 11 dicks
02:31:12 <T3sl4> i think Ysjoelfir was spotted with dick earlier
02:31:18 <T3sl4> wait, was with spotted dicks earlier
02:31:20 <T3sl4> wait
02:31:37 <Ysjoelfir> eh? :D
02:32:05 <T3sl4> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_dick
02:33:07 <rust_collector> baked owl
02:35:30 <T3sl4> baked alaska isn't just the legalization of marijuana
02:35:43 <electrohead> lol
02:35:46 <electrohead> https://phys.org/news/2021-02-quantum-entire-radio-frequency-spectrum.html
02:38:15 <T3sl4> neat, but i'd like to see their antenna design
02:39:24 <electrohead> yeah me too
02:39:40 <electrohead> really curious how they pulled that off, letalone the amplification stage
02:43:04 <T3sl4> i assume it's something about electric field (DC bias) plus incident waves changing hyperfine splitting, and that change being detectable in an easier manner, for example if it happens that the quantum efficiency is near 1, between receiving a spin-flipping (or whatever) photon, and emission of a much shorter wavelength (perhaps IR), then that acts as a kind of amplification
02:43:52 <T3sl4> which, if that's the scheme, there'd have to be an energy source, which could be the high-n atomic state, which is in turn maintained with lasers or something, so it'd be a sort of stimulated emission, but stimulated by long waves rather than the same waves
02:44:16 <T3sl4> i have no idea about how rydberg matter works, if that's actually a plausible scheme or what, just spitballing
02:45:17 <electrohead> https://scx1.b-cdn.net/csz/news/800a/2021/2-newquantumre.jpg
02:45:31 <electrohead> well, if that's part of the actual setup, then yeah, looks like a decently high powered laser :P
02:46:37 <T3sl4> hmm, doubling red to, blue or violet too
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02:47:09 <electrohead> now I'm reading up on rydberg atoms
02:47:15 <hsn> Hey guys a quick one .. is there difference between op amp and comparator .. except for output stage ?
02:47:23 <T3sl4> oh here we go, coppice is practically made of rydberg matter, he can tell us how it works
02:47:35 <T3sl4> hsn: compensation
02:48:12 <hsn> Is compensation done internally
02:48:37 <T3sl4> opamps have it, wherever it is, comparators don't
02:48:58 <hsn> Thanks
02:49:29 <hsn> Rest is my homework and duty to read
02:51:28 <rust_collector> my homework is also rest
02:52:20 <hsn> Rusted rest
02:52:57 <hsn> Rust .. why enig uses nickel gold plating on copper .. not directly gold on copper ..
02:53:10 <hsn> ENIG
02:54:21 <hsn> The idea is to protect copper from you (rust) ..with gold .. but they use nickel gold ..
02:54:30 <rust_collector> I don't think gold likes being a layer on copper, and nickel is sort of hard, if that matters, what is enig?
02:55:06 <hsn> Electroless nickel immersion gold (ENIG)
02:55:13 <rust_collector> hm
02:56:53 <hsn> So gold dont like copper
02:57:10 <hsn> Nickel like both?
02:57:44 <rust_collector> well, it says, in enig, that it is the nickel is the coating you want, and the gold is just to keep the nickel from oxidizing?
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02:59:15 <rust_collector> why the hell would I know?
03:01:01 <electrohead> rust_collector: because you are supposed to know everything
03:01:03 <electrohead> :P
03:01:08 <rust_collector> oh
03:01:18 <rust_collector> oops?
03:01:53 <rust_collector> I mean, yes, but I just don't know how to explain everything to hsn, lol
03:01:56 <coppice> T3sl4: I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it. I'm about to lose control and I think I like it.
03:02:14 <electrohead> rust_collector: lol
03:02:21 * electrohead excites coppice
03:02:36 <T3sl4> hsn, gold diffuses into copper leaving voids
03:02:41 <T3sl4> silver too
03:03:20 <T3sl4> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkendall_effect
03:04:16 <coppice> gold diffuses into silicon, leaving a trail of broken devices
03:04:42 <coppice> I still don't get how they make MOSFETs with gold gates
03:05:08 <hsn> coppice: Gosfets u mean
03:05:45 <T3sl4> whatever they did, it's ausome
03:06:18 <coppice> gold atoms have an amazing diffusion rate through a variety of crystal structures
03:06:50 <hsn> T3sl4: how do u know about this material science stuff as EE .. do u just like chemistry or ... How do u know ?
03:07:19 <T3sl4> it's amazing what you can find on the internet
03:07:20 <coppice> hsn: what do you think an EE course consists of?
03:07:37 <hsn> coppice: mine did consist of bullshitting
03:08:00 <coppice> hsn: didn't you study anything about semiconductors?
03:08:15 <T3sl4> i don't know that undergrad EE or chem covers that particular effect
03:08:23 <T3sl4> chem and phys do diffusion, certainly
03:08:47 <hsn> coppice: not really i would say .. i saw other universities subjects where much better
03:09:07 <coppice> T3sl4: you can't teach much about semiconductors without teaching about diffusion in a lattice
03:09:09 <hsn> Ours .. where no real tutors who are capable of teaching ..
03:09:57 <hsn> They were taking stuff from https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/
03:10:02 <coppice> hsn: most place now called universities are little more than trade schools
03:10:07 <hsn> Easy boring stuff ..
03:10:44 <hsn> And they where failing in explaining even that because most of them are actually useless tutors
03:11:54 <T3sl4> coppice: i mean it's quite a stretch of logic to go from "dopants diffuse into silicon when heated" to "alloys can form voids when their diffusion coefficients differ in this way"
03:12:37 <hsn> The semiconductor for us was "there is some magic called doping to create somthing called pn junction" and thats it no more details
03:13:43 <coppice> T3sl4: It sounds like your college only covered these things in a fairly superficial way
03:14:05 <T3sl4> think i only had one required class about semiconductors
03:14:23 <T3sl4> maybe there was another i've forgotten
03:15:54 <T3sl4> as in fab i mean
03:17:31 <coppice> T3sl4: If I remember right, we had 2 - one on how various semiconductor devices work, and one on how they are made and the problems, like extremely fast and destructive the flow of things like gold atoms through a lattice can be
03:24:02 <coppice> T3sl4: we were taught by someone who was migrating out of process research, because the semiconductor industry was just starting to move fast enough that universities couldn't keep up financially with the progress of the tools
03:24:23 <T3sl4> nice
03:26:27 <coppice> T3sl4: he was moving into optical and SAW areas, trying to reuse his knowledge on things with similar manufacturing technologies, but ones shrinking at a slower pace. Luckily, Charlie Kao was working with them, so their work blended nicely
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04:30:51 <rust_collector> i think I have to bypass the control crap on the bathroom fan, and just let it be on all the time. it has never been very good, but now it seems to be completely random.
04:31:39 <Ysjoelfir> well.... or just don't use that at all :D I hate the noise those make
04:33:27 <rust_collector> ok, but I do have to get rid of the moisture somehow
04:33:35 <steve30> I just had some food, but now I seem to want more food
04:33:46 <Ysjoelfir> just sprinkle kitty litter everywhere!
04:33:58 <steve30> I put a rather big powerful fan in my bathroom a while back.
04:34:12 <rust_collector> that is how food works, mr steve. if you stop eating for a few weeks, you will not get hungry any more
04:34:23 <Ysjoelfir> steve, I'm making rostbeef today. I hope it'll be nice
04:35:19 * steve30 lurks around the roast beef :p
04:36:56 <rust_collector> I think I want to install a larger fan some time.
04:38:01 <rust_collector> wth? the council is gritting. something really bad is going to happen
04:38:29 <steve30> we're forecast snow here for the next few days
04:41:34 <T3sl4> gritty mcgrittyface?
04:45:58 <rust_collector> it has been nice and cold-ish lately, so I don't know what they think this will do
04:46:24 <T3sl4> it's solidly frigid here
04:47:05 <rust_collector> it has been between -6 and -15 for the last few weeks. so it is nice and dry
05:10:14 <Ampera> It's 34 degrees here
05:10:23 <Ampera> which is downright warm compared to how it's been
05:11:10 <electrohead> Ampera: it's 43F out for me right now
05:11:17 <electrohead> all that snow is melting away, already
05:11:28 <Ampera> get out the lawn chair and bask, man
05:11:35 <Ampera> that's tropical
05:11:59 <electrohead> hahaha
05:12:13 <electrohead> yeah, I could definitely go outside without a coat, at least for a little bit
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05:19:11 <rust_collector> coat of mayo
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06:36:06 <T3sl4> steve30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7hrS85b2kg
06:44:43 * Ysjoelfir wonders if he should get that cyberpunk thing
06:45:03 <rust_collector> start a cyberfarm
06:48:25 <Ysjoelfir> not sure if I can do that :D
06:49:10 <hsn> Lol arab celebraties are liers
06:49:13 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/5qmmadmZuF44CsV57
06:49:42 <hsn> She posted some baby as hers
06:50:35 <rust_collector> look at what I found in the mall! it is mine now
06:51:07 <hsn> She just had a baby
06:51:20 <hsn> Maybe fans are asking to see her face
06:57:32 * Ysjoelfir enjoys the smell of roastbeef getting done
06:57:54 * rust_collector wants his coriander water
06:58:03 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy, rust_collector
06:58:20 <rust_collector> oh yes
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07:00:57 <hsn> Give rust_collector some of that Ysjoelfir
07:04:43 <hsn> Dinner 2n8 https://www.instagram.com/p/CK9GHAkJ_l2/?igshid=19dh0r4mmoiut
07:05:43 <Ysjoelfir> that looks very ni8ce
07:06:50 <rust_collector> yez
07:06:59 <rust_collector> looks doable
07:07:01 <hsn> Its a trend pasta on tik tok i think ..
07:07:29 <hsn> I didnt know but heared wife saying this sort of stuff
07:07:38 <Ampera> hey guys I think my fish might be broken, how do I fix? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/270440074477436928/807703170468806696/20210206_142958.jpg
07:08:05 <hsn> https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/worklife/a35418580/tiktok-feta-tomato-pasta-recipe/
07:08:30 <Ampera> for a cosmo article I'd expect that to be fetal tomato pasta
07:08:35 <rust_collector> Ampera, you should know fish needs water. so put it somewhere there is water?
07:08:48 <Ampera> but there's water right there
07:08:51 <Ampera> it's laying on a bunch of it
07:09:05 <hsn> Non freezing
07:09:31 <rust_collector> i still think you should take t inside, and put it somewhere there is water
07:09:54 <hsn> Eevblog show ampera water
07:10:13 <EEVBlog> eevblog no
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07:10:51 <rust_collector> oh look at angry Ysjoelfir leaving
07:11:15 <Ampera> look at my FUCK and my SHIT
07:11:17 <Ampera> and my FUCKING SHIT
07:11:28 * Ysjoelfir looks at Ampera fucking shit
07:11:38 <Ampera> a hole's a hole
07:11:49 <hsn> Eevblog no
07:12:43 <hsn> I feel sad
07:13:09 <hsn> https://youtu.be/nbKwUSH9NiY
07:13:17 <hsn> I was watching this series
07:13:33 <hsn> And in episode 5 .. its stopped .. no 6
07:14:15 <rust_collector> well, maybe you have to go to köln and tell him
07:14:19 <EEVBlog> https://youtube.com/watch?v=vDyE2FjM6rk
07:16:57 <rust_collector> he does tend to get to some point, then find something else to do for a while. maybe he will get back to it, maybe not
07:21:11 <Ysjoelfir> why would you want to go to köln?
07:22:03 <rust_collector> has he moved again?
07:22:27 <hsn> Because kõln is problem solver
07:22:35 <rust_collector> anyway, I did find one very good kebab shop there(while being lost)
07:23:12 <rust_collector> ok, that was a weird film
07:24:09 <rust_collector> yes, I watched a film, lol
07:24:18 <rust_collector> it was not very long
07:24:25 <rust_collector> <hsn> Because kõln is problem solver
07:24:54 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGpzlgmAWp4&feature=emb_rel_pause
08:08:32 <rust_collector> today, I wonder how many factories there is who make light bulbs, sold by other brands
08:18:03 <electrohead> o/
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08:19:09 <rust_collector> -/|-\-/|-\
08:39:56 <rust_collector> hm. i just found a cable with a 6 pin din-style plug on one end, and an "rca" and a bnc on the other end. i wonder where that comes from
08:42:42 <Ysjoelfir> probably something video/audio related
08:42:50 <rust_collector> yea
08:43:05 <rust_collector> but why would I have that? lol
08:43:35 <Ysjoelfir> because reasons^^
08:43:42 <rust_collector> oh well.
08:43:58 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oKiWQtk_jE_g9Reb3DLhQ0yIcCFHZAlM/view?usp=sharing
08:45:13 <rust_collector> yooouuuuuu.....
08:45:21 <rust_collector> *insert words*
08:45:24 <Ysjoelfir> yes? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oMG4jsRckM1yUh_U6090Kuq7yYTpfhET/view?usp=sharing
08:45:49 <rust_collector> some cats will be happy
08:46:12 <Ysjoelfir> lol#
08:46:27 <rust_collector> looks great
08:46:47 <Ysjoelfir> it is magnificent
08:46:58 <rust_collector> *like me*
08:47:06 <Ysjoelfir> XD
08:47:06 <rust_collector> I mean. yes
08:52:01 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giqsjvur5Io
08:55:10 <Halcyon> Morning all
08:55:41 <rust_collector> no, Halcyon, Ysjoelfir ate all of it
08:55:43 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
08:55:53 <Halcyon> :)
08:56:11 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
08:56:29 <Halcyon> Doing OK, how are you?
08:56:40 <Ampera> watching a movie, going to go to bed in about an hour
08:56:59 <Halcyon> I just got up *rubs eyes*
08:57:07 * Ampera rubs Halcyon's eyes for him
08:57:29 <Halcyon> :)
08:57:40 * Ysjoelfir rubs a lump of cow in Halcyon's eyes
08:58:28 <Halcyon> I hope that's cooked
08:58:58 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oMG4jsRckM1yUh_U6090Kuq7yYTpfhET/view?usp=sharing judge yourself
08:59:16 <Halcyon> Ooooh nice
08:59:36 <Halcyon> Looks moist
09:00:00 <Ysjoelfir> it is. you can nearly drink it
09:00:07 <Halcyon> Haha eww
09:00:40 <rust_collector> beef straws... are they a bit larger than the milkshake ones?
09:00:48 * electrohead hugs Halcyon
09:01:49 <Halcyon> \o/
09:03:28 <electrohead> \o>
09:03:30 <electrohead> <o/
09:04:56 <rust_collector> Y
09:04:56 <rust_collector> m
09:05:00 <rust_collector> uuh
09:05:02 <rust_collector> so on
09:54:03 <electrohead> uh oh
09:54:09 <electrohead> the power flickered here at work
09:54:16 <rust_collector> YES!
09:54:24 <electrohead> was really quick, but earlier it went out, and took our machines down and such >.<
09:54:35 <rust_collector> HAHA! It WORks I guess maybe
09:54:41 <electrohead> :P
09:55:10 <rust_collector> sorry, but it has to be done
09:56:03 <Ysjoelfir> so don't forget to either bring extra wet wipes or a flesh...flashlight to the toilet mr. head!
09:56:14 <electrohead> lol
09:56:22 <electrohead> hahahaha
10:07:22 * T3sl4 munches fake-crab salad wrap
10:07:52 * rust_collector is not
10:14:22 <Halcyon> Mmmm mystery meat
10:16:29 <T3sl4> and some cottage cheese
10:18:02 * Ysjoelfir is done with his roastbeef
10:18:40 * T3sl4 hops on Ysjoelfir's gravy train
10:18:43 <rust_collector> you make that sound like you did something not family friendly
10:20:11 <T3sl4> what could be family unfriendly about training mystery meats in gravy?
10:21:03 <rust_collector> that depends a lot on what part of the woods you are from, I think
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11:29:48 <Halcyon> I'm going to the supermarket, back soon.
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13:52:09 <steve30> hi
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16:11:45 <hsn> good hi steve30
16:12:05 <hsn> Halcyon, did the supermarket get robbed ?
16:34:03 <steve30> Maybe the robbers stole the Halcyon
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16:54:16 <Halcyon> I'm here :)
17:07:46 <electrohead> hey :)
17:20:29 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
17:23:07 * steve30 is editing an electronics video
17:24:37 <Halcyon> Nice
17:24:41 <Halcyon> What kind of video?
17:25:38 <steve30> camcorder repair
17:26:37 <steve30> Does anyone here have the windows version of Adobe Premiere 6.5? I have a licensed copy of the MacOS version, but i wouldn't mind a copy of the Windows version.
17:55:10 <Halcyon> I'll check
17:55:35 <Halcyon> I've got Premiere Pro CS5
18:00:21 * Halcyon prods steve30
18:00:36 <steve30> bit new for my liking :)
18:00:45 <Halcyon> I have 2.0 Pro? :P
18:01:09 <Halcyon> Or 1.0
18:02:04 <steve30> I have premier pro 2
18:02:30 <steve30> Looks like a decent bit of software but I might see if I can buy a copy of the user manual/similar on ebay
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18:57:45 <steve30> I've almost finished the video. Just got to try and do a bit of voiceover.
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20:53:05 <Halcyon> When do we get to see it steve30 ?
20:57:45 <steve30> when i upload it shortly
20:59:48 <Halcyon> YAY!
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22:34:01 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
22:36:20 <Halcyon> Yeeeee :D
22:36:23 <Halcyon> How are you Ampera?
22:36:53 <Ampera> awake
22:37:09 <Halcyon> Joy
22:37:18 <Ampera> if you say so
22:41:42 <steve30> Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfidDHLNeJc&feature=youtu.be
22:41:57 <steve30> 27 minutes of steve30 fun :)
22:42:12 <Ampera> This on your HDV corder?
22:42:28 <steve30> yes, but recorded in DV mode.
22:42:40 <Ampera> Odd, then why is the video 720p60 on YouTUbe
22:43:01 <Ampera> did you render it to a higher res for bitrate?
22:44:00 <steve30> because youtube :D
22:44:25 <Halcyon> It's amazing how nice standard DV actually looks
22:44:47 <steve30> I deinterlace it to 60p then scale it up so youtube gets the higher bitrate and the 60fps. If I leave it in SD you'd only get the 30fps on youtube.
22:45:12 <steve30> Halcyon, on that one, the h264 compression reduces the quality a bit, as the video is a bit noisy due to being mostly done in low light.
22:47:07 <Halcyon> Ah fair enough
22:48:50 <steve30> I'm sure youtube will make it even worse still. But it'll save me sending you the 14GB lossless HuffYUV file :).
22:52:48 * steve30 ponders curry
22:55:42 <Ampera> Yeah and on australian balingwire net, it'd take a real long time
22:58:11 <Halcyon> I can get over 100 Mbps down
22:58:14 <Halcyon> Not too bad
22:58:58 <Ampera> that's not much
22:59:08 <Halcyon> Still pretty good for copper lines
22:59:20 <Ampera> people over here have gigabit over copper
22:59:24 <Halcyon> Until they upgrade to fibre, it's what I'm stuck with
22:59:44 <Ampera> some even have over 1Gb speeds on copper
22:59:51 <Halcyon> On Cable?
22:59:56 <Ampera> coax
23:00:03 <Halcyon> Yep, cable is meh
23:00:19 <Halcyon> Plus it's a shared medium. Down to the street level.
23:00:31 <Halcyon> Where as I can pull the full speed regardless of what others in my street are doing.
23:01:57 <Ampera> well much of the US also has fiber internet
23:02:01 <Ampera> which is even better
23:02:20 <Halcyon> Depends if you're lucky enough to live in a fibre area.
23:02:25 <Halcyon> Same as here, it's a bit of a lotto.
23:02:33 <Halcyon> It is getting better
23:02:37 <Halcyon> (Finally)
23:04:18 <steve30> We might be getting fibre in the next couple of years
23:04:49 <Halcyon> There is a bit of a race on at the moment. Some providers are sick of waiting for the Government to do stuff, so they are rolling their own fibre with up to 10 Gbps down.
23:05:02 <Halcyon> Now the Government is rushing to compete with them and 5G
23:05:10 <Halcyon> Something they should have just done 10 years ago
23:06:41 <Halcyon> But those in coax areas will max out at 1 Gbps (eventually) they aren't upgrading those to full fibre.
23:06:56 <Halcyon> I think at the moment the most you can get on coax is 250 Mbps
23:07:05 <steve30> My new 4G modem can get about 12Mbps. I might have got a 5G one but Mikrotik don't seem to make them yet.
23:07:30 <Halcyon> 4G is capable of a lot more, few hundred Mbps, depends on the modem and the carrier.
23:07:57 <steve30> Yeah, I have another SIM card for a different carrier which I still need to try.
23:08:32 <Ampera> NY likes being as confusing as humanly possible when describing what exactly I need in order to get a driver's license
23:08:51 <Ampera> they say that I need 5 hours of supervised driving practice, but they don't say who has to supervise it, and some resources don't even say I need it
23:08:52 <Halcyon> I've heard that the DMV is a cunt to deal with
23:08:52 <EEVBlog> And the horse you rode in on, Halcyon!
23:08:57 <Halcyon> Exactly
23:09:47 <Halcyon> I need to wee wee
23:09:52 <Ampera> enjoy!
23:11:12 <Halcyon> That was refreshing
23:11:44 <Ampera> The DMV is only a cunt to deal with because of COVID right now
23:11:51 <Ampera> it used to be you could basically just walk in and do your shit
23:12:01 <Ampera> now you have to apply for an appointment
23:12:10 <Ampera> you can only apply for one 21 days in advance, and all of them are always taken
23:12:14 <Halcyon> What's COVID? ;-)
23:12:16 <steve30> All I know about the DMV is what I've heard in the Simpsons etc
23:12:32 <Halcyon> steve30, That Patty and Selma work there?
23:12:35 <Ampera> I don't even know, the DMV is being intentionally difficult, people wait and sit around inside all the damn time everywhere else
23:12:46 <Ampera> there's no real reason why the DMV needs to be like that
23:13:05 <Halcyon> Sounds like a typical public-facing Government department
23:13:44 <Ampera> I'm going for my learner's permit test tomorrow, so need to study a bit now
23:13:55 <Ampera> the only thing that all the manuals are real fucking shit at explaining is right of way
23:14:19 <Halcyon> In what kind of scenario?
23:14:33 <Ampera> all of them
23:16:50 <Halcyon> So, can you look up the legislation?
23:17:24 <Ampera> No, because, as I said, all of the written guides are terrible at explaining it
23:18:55 <Halcyon> Yeh but the guides are just a guide, they would be backed up by some kind of legislation
23:46:18 <electrohead> o/
23:46:31 * T3sl4 sips a coffee
23:49:51 * electrohead pours the hot, boiling coffee all over himself
23:50:22 <T3sl4> self coffilation
23:50:34 * Ampera boils electrohead
23:51:04 <electrohead> Ampera knows why I did that
23:51:29 <Ampera> is it cold over there?
23:51:37 <T3sl4> yes
23:51:41 <electrohead> yeah
23:51:49 <hsn> yep
23:51:56 <Ampera> it's not that bad here, 16F
23:52:11 <Ampera> -12F in Madison, impressive
23:52:45 <hsn> eevbot urban madison
23:53:19 <hsn> EEVBlog, convert -12f to c
23:53:23 <hsn> EEVBlog convert -12f to c
23:53:23 <EEVBlog> The result is: -24.444 c
23:53:51 <hsn> well its 21c here
23:53:58 <hsn> winter is going ..
23:54:20 <hsn> soon hsn will be grilled
23:54:36 <hsn> month 6/7/8/9/10 = actual hell ..
23:59:13 <T3sl4> mmm, more breakfast tacos
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