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00:31:48 <rust_collector> moining
00:32:13 <Ampera> rust in peace, mr. collector
00:32:20 <Ampera> how are you doing
00:32:35 <Watcher> hey
00:32:48 <rust_collector> i have been up for 12.5 hours, I wonder when I will wake up
00:33:08 <Watcher> that early
00:33:10 <Ampera> rust_collector, have you ever woken up before?
00:33:15 <Ampera> what makes you think you will wake up ever?
00:33:18 <Watcher> * that's
00:33:37 <Ampera> I'm usually up for 16 hours at a time
00:33:39 <rust_collector> There are stories about that time I was awake. i am not sure if it is true or not
00:33:57 <Ampera> rust_collector, you know what they say, trust none of what you hear, and only half of what you see
00:34:09 <Ampera> I think we're all sleeping and sharing the same nightmare
00:34:20 <rust_collector> and with glasses like mine, maybe not that either
00:34:52 <rust_collector> I still get the feeling that I am made to be up for 2 days, then sleep one day
00:35:56 <Ampera> do you at least sleep the whole day?
00:36:11 <rust_collector> but yes, I have had the same evening shifts since november or so, and today I started at 3. it is not ideal, especially not on a monday
00:36:38 <rust_collector> It is not very often I get to try theories like that. it is just a feeling I have
00:36:43 <Ampera> since covid and working at home, I've done all sorts of crazy nonsense with my hours
00:36:55 <Ampera> I work 6-14, wake up 2, go to bed 18
00:36:56 <rust_collector> I think that is pretty common
00:37:25 <Ampera> I also have no lunch break, which is not a big deal, as I only eat once a day
00:38:38 <rust_collector> Now that I am somewhat older, I have started to usually eat twice each day
00:39:09 <Ampera> the problem I've had if I eat more than once a day is I will eat enough food for a whole day twice a day
00:40:08 <K> t h i c c
00:40:15 <rust_collector> i know what you mean
00:40:42 <Ampera> on occasion I will go a day without eating anything, because why not
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00:51:30 <rust_collector> I sort of like these supercomputer boards everyone is making these days
00:51:41 <K> it is niec
00:51:53 <K> but not clear to me what they would be good for
00:52:07 <rust_collector> computing
00:52:12 <K> computing what
00:52:22 <rust_collector> difficult things
00:52:32 <K> multi-computer computing research yes
00:52:45 <K> but that would be more productive on emulated hardware
00:52:55 <rust_collector> no no, I don't think they are connected
00:53:10 <Ampera> distcc is the only useful thing I can think of
00:53:34 <Ampera> I've thought about the price of a raspi 4 distcc cluster, but ultimately the problem is I don't think I could get one powerful enough to beat an x86 CPU of the same price
00:53:43 <rust_collector> something makes me think that you are talking about something different to what i am thinking about
00:53:47 <Ampera> (and the system around it)
00:54:01 <Ampera> er
00:54:14 <Ampera> I am talking about boards with a load of slots for raspi compute modules and such
00:54:22 <rust_collector> ok
00:54:28 <Ampera> what are you talking about
00:54:40 <rust_collector> let me find one
00:57:40 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrK4gHwBdik
00:58:26 <rust_collector> it is so stupid, but I think they look nice
00:59:12 <Ampera> ohhhhh
00:59:17 <Ampera> it's a show prop
00:59:27 <rust_collector> pretty much
01:02:12 <rust_collector> so that is a thing to put in one of those modern computer boxes with a glass window
01:02:47 <K> rgb leds for Amperas grandpa
01:03:05 <rust_collector> yes!
01:03:17 <Ampera> a cruel prank would be to attach a really big battery to it, encase the whole thing in resin, go to someone you hate's bedroom, and then epoxy it to their window facing in
01:03:37 <Ampera> so they will have a bright obnoxious RGB show in their room for days, and they'll have to smash their window to stop it
01:03:40 <rust_collector> I like the way you think
01:06:54 <K> add rf receiver and beam rf power to it
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04:14:13 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
04:14:36 * Ysjoelfir waves with one and a half hand
04:15:02 <Kuschelpony> good evening
04:15:03 <steve30> hi Ysjoelfir
04:15:25 <rust_collector> nightning
04:15:38 <Ysjoelfir> Mornings mr. Pony, hi steve, and good night rusticles :)
04:16:16 <hsn> Google not allowed .. why chadder cheese is yellow
04:16:18 <rust_collector> did you go on an adventure with aliens or something?
04:16:27 <hsn> Also bing and others
04:16:29 <Ysjoelfir> lol
04:16:47 <Ysjoelfir> K, mr. ice tea has another schlumberger for you! https://www.ebay.de/itm/143956043993?ul_noapp=true
04:17:21 <hsn> Wht is dis nice thing
04:17:29 <hsn> Dmm
04:18:02 <Ampera> Cheddar is only yellow when you've been an idiot and not bought sharp cheddar.
04:18:37 <hsn> Ampera: r u ... What?
04:18:54 <Ampera> If your cheddar is yellow, you are doing cheddar wrong
04:18:56 <hsn> Im idiot even if i buy all kind of cheeses
04:18:56 <Ampera> and you should feel wrong
04:19:11 <hsn> Cheeeses crist
04:25:41 <hsn> Ampera whts sharp chrese
04:26:04 <rust_collector> non yellow
04:26:21 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_cheese#Character
04:26:33 * Ysjoelfir hands some Brunost to hsn
04:26:48 <hsn> Idk what is that but thanks
04:27:20 <hsn> Ah its another cheese
04:29:22 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4zVxBoI6KQ
04:30:27 <electrohead> o/
04:30:56 * Ampera hugs electrohead
04:30:59 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
04:31:08 * electrohead hugs Ampera
04:31:11 * Ysjoelfir hands hsn some gammelost, just to try
04:31:16 <electrohead> I'm alright, enjoying my day off
04:31:18 <electrohead> lol
04:31:20 <electrohead> you?
04:31:35 <hsn> My day is enjoying me off
04:31:41 * Ampera offs hsn
04:31:49 <Ampera> I have 90 minutes until I am off
04:31:51 * hsn quites
04:32:06 <electrohead> is it snowing up there?
04:32:07 <electrohead> it is, here
04:32:26 <hsn> Am down
04:32:33 <hsn> Who is up
04:32:40 <Ampera> nope
04:32:43 <Ampera> keep the snow
04:32:44 <Ampera> have extra
04:32:46 <Ampera> so we can have none
04:32:48 <Ampera> >:D
04:32:57 <hsn> Gimme some
04:33:06 <hsn> I never saw it in real life
04:33:12 <Ampera> you don't want it
04:33:21 <hsn> I want to throw snow balls to ppl
04:33:44 <Ampera> sure, but you first have to spend an hour in freezing cold digging out your car with a plastic shovel
04:33:49 <Ampera> then digging out the sidewalk
04:33:56 <Ampera> then salting the sidewalk so nobody slips and sues you
04:34:01 <hsn> No
04:34:02 <Ampera> oh, and that salt isn't cheap either
04:34:16 <hsn> Just make fire and sit
04:34:28 * Ampera sets hsn on fire
04:34:35 <hsn> Put ur hand near fire
04:34:40 <rust_collector> just make an electric fence, so people stay away
04:34:54 <hsn> It gives u orgasims
04:35:04 <hsn> Mini heat orgasms
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05:04:12 <rust_collector> good night.
05:04:17 <rust_collector> especially hsn
05:04:24 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy rusty
05:04:29 <hsn> Gn rust_collector
05:04:33 <Ysjoelfir> oh, not me? hm. then suffer in hell :D
05:04:37 <hsn> Pink dreams we say
05:04:38 <rust_collector> wait, not especially good for hsn, just night
05:04:44 <Ysjoelfir> lol
05:04:58 <hsn> Night night
05:05:11 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: why he is leaving early 2night
05:05:15 <rust_collector> but it is especially time for hsn to go to bed
05:05:46 <hsn> rust_collector: no its time for my youtube que
05:05:54 <hsn> Watch later is full
05:05:59 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, you can sleep on the couch later, if you want to
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05:06:14 <Ysjoelfir> yay! \o/
05:06:38 <rust_collector> best sleep, usually with the worst wake up when you are done
05:07:07 <rust_collector> ok night
05:07:09 <hsn> Best sleep is when u dont wake up
05:07:11 <hsn> Night
05:09:44 <hsn> https://youtu.be/Sy4ZgQkoLX8
05:09:57 <hsn> Lol first guy is so calm .. more than rusty
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05:33:58 <Halcyon> Morning
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07:04:19 <Lord_of_nothing> Hey Guys and Girls
07:04:27 <Lord_of_nothing> Aliexpress sell everythink: https://de.aliexpress.com/category/200218387/gags-muzzles.html
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08:50:23 <Ysjoelfir> Damn you Ampera, I was just done typing :D
08:50:39 <Ampera> get on my level
08:50:50 <Ysjoelfir> having a bot that does that for me?^^
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09:40:04 <guest012> Hello
09:40:28 <guest012> in the following picture: https://cdn.sparkfun.com/assets/1/e/8/1/4/518aca69ce395f6437000002.png
09:40:43 <guest012> The diode marked S427, would anyone know what brand this diode is based off the logo?
09:52:04 <Ysjoelfir> no idea, but why would you need the manufacturer?
09:52:24 <Ysjoelfir> also hello mr guest
09:52:50 <guest012> hi Ysjoelfir. Just wanted to get the datasheet
09:53:11 <guest012> for a certain diode I have which has that similar logo on it
09:53:41 <Ysjoelfir> well.... then grab any manufacturers datasheet for said diode? I don't think they will be that different
09:54:33 <guest012> ok
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13:13:34 <arch> ITS WORKING! ITS WORKING!!!!
13:13:54 <arch> i remade the PCB and it's soooo much better with the separate agnd and pgnd
13:14:06 <arch> almost ideal waveforms now
13:14:53 <arch> and i also learned something new. that is, if you have the probes connect near the inductor, you pick up a LOT of ripple on the output cap, even though in reality it's lesser
13:15:14 <arch> the difference is literally less than a few mm. makes a massive difference
13:15:48 <arch> of course, i did this on purpose, with an unshielded inductor
13:49:54 <arch> look at the difference it makes when you probe just a few mm away: https://imgur.com/a/sdyardX
13:51:24 <arch> T3sl4, ^^ that's the redesigned AOZ1073 PCB. i separated agnd and pgnd with a single trace, and added a ceramic cap between pwr and agnd
13:51:44 <arch> now it's not bugging out even with the 10uH inductor, so i can safely say that my previous layout was crap
13:55:04 <arch> interesting. i notices that even with the bad probing method, the curves related to parasitics on the capacitor are virtually identical. the parabolas i mean.
13:55:46 <arch> the amplitude that the parasitics waveforms sit upon is what changes. kewl
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14:05:25 <arch> let me get a transient response now, hope it's better than the previous pcb
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14:26:06 <arch> yeaaa boiiii. ok, so good and bad news. good news is, i expect the loop compensation to behave properly now. the bad news is i have terrible undershoot and overshoot because i just popped in 100nF ceramic cap directly across RC comp pin and it takes AGES to settle. waveforms here: https://imgur.com/a/jiV1Ztb
14:26:16 <arch> T3sl4, pls dont kill me
14:28:05 <arch> what i think is happening when it oscillates as the transient is removed is it goes into overvoltage protection mode because the loop response is slow af
14:28:56 <arch> let me pop in my initially calculated RC comp values now, and remove the cap connected directly across RC comp pin
14:29:06 <arch> and redo the test. hope it's better
14:30:41 <arch> actually before i do that, let's do another quick test. im gonna replace that 100nF cap with a 10nF cap, then take a capture of the waveform
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14:38:03 <arch> WHOOAAAAA WOOOOOOO YEEEE
14:38:13 <arch> im on the right track! AYAYAYAYAYAYA
14:39:22 <arch> T3sl4, https://imgur.com/a/rQkRbPl
14:39:23 <arch> :D
14:40:04 <arch> just replacing with a 10nF and bam--great. of course, it's still not optimal, but small but easily visible progress like this really gives a boost to enthusiasm
14:42:41 <arch> today was a good day
14:46:54 <arch> im talking to myself today like Nothing_ usually does :D
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16:00:18 <T3sl4> buh
16:43:07 <steve30> i need to go out for my shopping this morning
16:55:31 <T3sl4> think i'll have a coffee
16:57:14 <steve30> :p
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18:33:22 <Halcyon> Ampera: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768314853554520094/813583055594848256/image0.jpg
18:40:06 <K> hello pipes
18:42:04 <Halcyon> Hey K
18:47:19 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
19:03:22 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4
19:03:34 <T3sl4> whats up
19:03:54 <Halcyon> Not much
19:04:39 <T3sl4> no wine-ing? :P
19:06:25 <Halcyon> Nah not tonight
19:06:31 <Halcyon> I'm going to get an early night
19:07:09 <T3sl4> aww
19:07:38 * T3sl4 gives Halcyon a duvet
19:09:21 * DogWomble duvets a Halcyon
19:10:09 * T3sl4 wombles Halcyon's duvets
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20:12:10 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
20:22:15 <T3sl4> hai kai
20:24:58 <Ysjoelfir> shark tim
20:29:56 <Ampera> germans be wondering why COVID's so bad for them, while having "germ" in their name
20:32:28 <Ysjoelfir> I would opt for "its so bad because our government thinks that enforcing countermeasures today that are supposed to prevent events happening tomorrow, developed on the basis of data from 3 months ago is a good idea"
20:34:31 <Ampera> While I've been trying not to weigh in too much on COVID, I think New York's done a decent job of it.
20:35:00 <Ampera> We have fairly light restrictions at least in my area, and the numbers aren't great, but aren't terrible either
20:35:08 <Ampera> I guess depending on how you rate great or terrible
20:37:39 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
20:37:46 * Ampera kisses Halcyon
20:38:03 <Ampera> I ended up buying the collector's set for Ashens' movies
20:38:31 <Halcyon> Thanks mate :)
20:38:37 <Halcyon> Oh yeh?\
20:38:47 <Halcyon> What is the collectors set
20:38:47 <Ampera> How was work today
20:38:47 <Ysjoelfir> I have a big problem with the way they handle things here. its like "oooh, covid is bad, we have to be carefull, we have to keep most stores closed, all restaurants are only allowed to do deliveries, and everone should stay at home as much as possible.... but... oh, its valentines day, lets reopen flower stores. and hairdressers. Oh, and we also noticed that the british mutation is ravaging, especially in lower age groups. so lets just fully
20:38:47 <Ysjoelfir> open schools and childcare tomorrow!"
20:38:47 <Halcyon> ?
20:38:55 <Ampera> You've missed his new video then
20:39:05 <Ampera> the one stating his channel is 15 years old
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20:48:05 <Halcyon> I have way too many video cards
20:49:15 <Halcyon> In AGP and PCIe alone I have 30
20:49:24 <Halcyon> Still got ISA/PCI to sort
20:50:38 <K> gonna pave the patio with them?
20:51:53 <Halcyon> Collecting :P
20:52:10 <Ysjoelfir> I had a nice collection of vintage cards once
20:52:19 <Ysjoelfir> even got an XGI Volari Duo
20:52:27 <Halcyon> What happened to them?
20:53:02 <Ysjoelfir> and the ubiquitous... what was that... geforce 9800 X2? The thing with 2 (or was it four?) GPUs on 2 stacked PCBs
20:54:14 <Ysjoelfir> I scrapped most of it and sold other stuff for way to less money because "back than"(Trademark) the stuff wasn't realy sought after... heck, I even sold a Gravis Ultrasound with Box for 10 freakin euros
20:54:51 <Ysjoelfir> I could bite a big chunk out of my ass for that, judged by the collectors prices nowadays.
20:56:01 <Halcyon> Gees
20:56:15 <Ysjoelfir> yep
20:56:19 <Ysjoelfir> wanna have a bite, too?
20:57:40 * Halcyon has a nibble
20:59:03 <Ysjoelfir> thanks, now I feel better
20:59:29 * Ysjoelfir is still hunting for a cheap GUS to compensate for him being annoyed that he sold it that cheap >_>
21:01:51 <Halcyon> GUS ?
21:01:59 <Ysjoelfir> Gravis UltraSound
21:02:39 <Halcyon> Ahh
21:07:29 <Halcyon> This is one of my favourite online stores: http://texelec.com/
21:08:36 <Ysjoelfir> Thats cute, all homemade/semi professional stuff?
21:08:40 <Halcyon> Yeh
21:08:53 <Halcyon> I have a few of his OPL-based cards
21:08:56 <Halcyon> They work nicely
21:09:00 <Halcyon> Really well made
21:09:24 <Ampera> unpopular opinion, I'm not a big fan of the OPL's sound, 2 or 3
21:09:36 <Halcyon> Oh I'm not saying it's good :P
21:09:39 <Ampera> It can be used well by competent programmers, but most of the music ever made for it sounds weak
21:09:40 <Halcyon> Just nostalgic
21:10:07 <Ampera> the FM synth in simple stuff like the genesis absolutely demolishes the OPL chips
21:10:11 <Halcyon> I think he uses new old stock Yamaha chips where possible
21:10:18 <Halcyon> I agree Ampera
21:10:32 <Halcyon> But it's cheaper to buy one of these than a genuine old AdLib card :P
21:11:21 <Ampera> I just use sound blasters
21:11:39 <Halcyon> Snob :P
21:14:04 <Ampera> I had some lamb last night my dad gave me because he didn't really like it
21:14:14 <Ampera> was very good, but made me sad that it's so hard to get lamb
21:14:20 <Ampera> it's one of the most expensive meats here
21:14:39 <Ampera> nevermind mutton which is complete unobtanium unless you know a place that does it
21:15:44 <Halcyon> Do you farm your own lamb there or is it generally imported?
21:15:50 <Ampera> yes
21:16:33 <Ampera> I believe we import some of it from Oceania, and farm some of it locally
21:17:26 <Halcyon> Well if/when you eventually come here, we will have lamb
21:17:51 <Halcyon> It's a fairly common meat in things like roasts, chops or slow cooked (lamb shanks are delicious)
21:18:12 <Ampera> Here it's almost a delicacy
21:18:30 <Ampera> Steak is often cheaper
21:18:51 <Ampera> I think part of the reason is a lot of people don't like lamb, nevermind mutton
21:19:04 <Halcyon> Oooooh I know just the place to take you
21:19:07 <Halcyon> https://www.lamsheds.com.au/
21:19:29 <Halcyon> Sooooooo many good things on the menu and it changes every month
21:19:48 <Ampera> I hate their website
21:20:03 <Ampera> looks good though
21:20:18 <Halcyon> https://www.facebook.com/pg/lamsheds/photos/?ref=page_internal
21:20:22 <Halcyon> There are pictures there
21:20:26 <Ampera> over here, all of our restaurants are either chains, or crap
21:20:29 <Ampera> with few exceptions
21:21:04 <Ampera> if you send me a facebook link again I will find you and put you out of my misery.
21:21:22 <Ampera> Those are some tiny portions
21:22:42 <Halcyon> Yeh they aren't huge but they aren't meant to be. It's the type of place where you try many different delicious things.
21:23:04 <Halcyon> Last time we went there, we couldn't decide, so we asked the owner to just "feed us" and he kept bringing out plates of various things.
21:23:15 <Halcyon> Not exactly cheap, but nice for a treat.
21:23:45 <Ampera> How much did you pay averaged to a person?
21:24:54 <Halcyon> Well that time he just came up with a AUD$70 per head price
21:25:01 <Halcyon> But we were stuffed by the end of it
21:25:06 <Halcyon> (I think that included wine as well)
21:25:13 <Ampera> that's not bad for a fancy place
21:25:25 <Ampera> you can spend more going to a chain in NYC
21:25:40 <Halcyon> I think it helped that we had a large group
21:25:56 <Halcyon> I think the whole bill was like $600
21:26:02 <Ampera> cor
21:26:42 <Halcyon> Worth every dollar in my opinion. I've been there like 3-4 times now
21:26:47 <Halcyon> And going again next month \o/
21:26:56 <Ampera> if you were about to buy that much food from a place here they'd probably want proof of ability to pay
21:27:06 <Ampera> or a down payment :P
21:27:29 <Halcyon> Heh
21:27:57 <Ampera> could march a column of men up to the local buffet for that much
21:30:26 <Halcyon> It's not about economy, it's about quality and treating yourself
21:30:38 <Ampera> In the US, going out to eat is about eating
21:30:52 <Ampera> so long as the food isn't shit, and isn't tiny, you're golden
21:30:58 <Halcyon> https://kingsleyssydney.com.au/
21:31:07 <Halcyon> That is my other favourite place
21:31:30 <Ampera> Looks a bit more hipster than the other one
21:31:42 <Halcyon> More or less the same vibe
21:31:51 <Halcyon> That latter one is right on the water in Sydney
21:32:19 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/food/20201227_155306.jpg an example of our local texas roadhouse
21:32:26 <Ampera> ribs and steak
21:32:37 <Halcyon> Nom
21:33:11 <Halcyon> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kingsleys+Woolloomooloo/@-33.867675,151.2203626,337m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b12ae6dec62f04d:0x74ff139405888c03!8m2!3d-33.8678565!4d151.2206764
21:33:15 <Halcyon> That's where that other place is
21:33:23 <Halcyon> If you wish, you can park your boat there :P
21:33:51 <Ampera> I'll row right up
21:34:06 <Ampera> google maps says I can't have it delivered
21:34:11 <Ampera> I'd be impressed if I could...
21:34:36 <Halcyon> Might be a bit cold
21:35:57 <Ampera> It's amusing when uber eats advertises restaurants that are at least 40 minutes away for delivery
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21:36:12 <Halcyon> Yeh that can't be good
21:36:30 <Halcyon> I've never used Uber Eats, but I imagine their bags aren't heated like pizza bags?
21:36:55 <Ampera> well one of the places advertised served cold grinders
21:37:08 <Halcyon> Grinders? Coffee?
21:37:10 <Ampera> so that would work, but would be really expensive for a sandwich
21:37:11 <Ampera> no
21:37:12 <Ampera> sandwiches
21:37:17 <Halcyon> Oh right
21:37:25 <Ampera> it's new english vernacular
21:37:54 <Halcyon> Grinders is a coffee place/cafe here
21:38:05 <Halcyon> It's a chain though, nothing special
21:38:30 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_sandwich#Grinder
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21:39:01 <Halcyon> Fairly different to Grindr
21:39:02 <Ampera> that wikipedia entry is full of shit
21:39:07 <Ampera> nobody says grinder in new york
21:39:12 <Ampera> if you do it's an immediate sign you're not from here
21:39:13 <Halcyon> Then edit it :P
21:39:25 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
21:39:33 <Ampera> all I have is my anecdotes versus their cited source
21:39:36 <Ampera> I don't care also
21:39:48 <Ampera> I say grinder because it pisses people off
21:40:28 <Halcyon> :P
21:42:05 <Ampera> New York is also a pretty big place, it's possible NYC has enough degenerates to make grinder a partially accepted term
21:42:26 <Ampera> whereas here if you walked into a place and asked for a grinder they'd get the kitchen staff together and beat the shit out of you
21:43:01 <Ampera> I'd ask Tezzers if he was here, since he lives in one of the more generative parts of New York
21:43:09 <Ampera> *degenerative
21:43:58 <Halcyon> T3sl4 lives in New York?
21:44:52 <Ampera> who said T3sl4
21:44:54 <T3sl4> wrong T :P
21:45:05 <Halcyon> I thought that might have been your pet name for him :P
21:45:12 <Ampera> T3sl4 lives in the state not cool enough to be the midwest
21:45:29 <K> iowa?
21:45:38 <Ampera> no iowa is not cool enough to be anywhere
21:45:43 <Ampera> fuck iowa, nobody likes iowa
21:45:43 <T3sl4> ew iowa
21:46:00 <T3sl4> iowa is the iowa of the midwest
21:46:16 <Halcyon> I take it no one is a fan?
21:46:34 <T3sl4> it's just a boring state
21:46:37 <T3sl4> hope you like corn :P
21:46:41 <Halcyon> I love corn
21:47:02 <Ampera> they're the official start of the flyover states
21:47:07 <T3sl4> you love cornholing, but their version isn't what you're thinking
21:47:16 <Halcyon> :P
21:47:39 <Ampera> Tezzers lives in Long Island, the penis of New York
21:47:56 <K> flyover states?
21:48:10 <Ampera> yeah states nobody goes to and everyone flies over to go to states that are actually interesting
21:48:27 <Ampera> or, if you're going from east to west, states that are even worse
21:48:46 <K> oh.
21:48:54 <Ampera> Nevada and Arizona seem cool
21:49:04 <Halcyon> Is there anything there?
21:49:05 <Halcyon> Even corn?
21:49:25 <Ampera> I get the impression you go anywhere inhabited in Oregon and you'll get your kneecaps fucking smashed by an asshole with a lead pipe in five minutes
21:49:44 <Ampera> similar in Washington, but they have the slightly less insufferable clone of silicon valley up there
21:50:21 <Ampera> California seems like the state where they have diversified themselves into a variety of different societal solutions, all of them completely terrible
21:50:33 <Halcyon> I'm guessing Oregon is nothing like Goose Island Oregon like in Wargames?
21:50:34 <Ampera> everything is just a different type of awful
21:50:52 <Ampera> no Oregon is 90% nothing 10% riots
21:51:15 <Ampera> Everyone I've ever talked to who lives there is fucking sick of the place
21:51:57 <Halcyon> So where is good?
21:52:02 <Ampera> nowhere
21:52:11 <Halcyon> ... in the US
21:52:19 <K> florida!
21:52:20 <Ampera> Canada
21:52:27 <Halcyon> Heheh Canadia
21:53:20 <Ampera> Think of the US like a gradient, it's all shit, but as you go from east to west, and from north to south, everything gets worse
21:53:41 <Halcyon> That's a rather negative view
21:53:48 <Ampera> I live here
21:54:25 <K> the most nort-west is the least bad?
21:54:34 <Halcyon> It's kind of like here... except instead of getting worse, things get further and further spread out until you reach the west coast when it all starts to get built up again
21:54:39 <Ampera> K, the northeast is the least bad
21:54:45 <Ampera> though, the northeast is full of unsavory assholes
21:54:50 <K> ah.
21:55:00 <Ampera> but if you shut up and mind your own business, and keep a hand on your wallet, you're alright
21:55:13 <Halcyon> :P
21:55:14 <Ampera> the southeast is full of really friendly people so long as you're white
21:55:54 <Ampera> the midwest has kind people, but a lot of broken cities, crime, and drugs
21:55:55 <Halcyon> Sounds like your kind of place Ampera :P
21:56:10 <Halcyon> (The former, not the crime and drugs)
21:56:24 <Ampera> Nah, the southwest might as well be known as the sandwich states
21:56:28 <Ampera> because they're all inbred down there
21:56:35 <Halcyon> Mmmm bread
21:57:19 <Ampera> Texas is the state of big
21:57:27 <Ampera> everything is bigger in Texas, including their disasters
21:57:59 <Halcyon> I guess if you're going to do something, do it well
21:58:09 <Ampera> New Mexico is probably the one state I know nothing about
21:58:22 <Ampera> I have no idea who lives there, what they do, or what they are like
21:58:30 <Halcyon> Aliens
21:58:49 <Ampera> they're between Arizona and Texas, so presumably a hybrid of the two, but I get the impression they're sort of a state people use mostly to get between the two
21:59:23 <Halcyon> It looks warm there
21:59:30 <Ampera> Wyoming doesn't actually exist, if you walk across the border you'll be instantly warped to the other side.
21:59:33 <Ampera> Ohio will be eliminated
21:59:57 <Ampera> Indiana is full of inbreds and meth
21:59:59 <Ampera> and corn
22:00:06 <Ampera> not my take, I have a friend there
22:00:13 <Halcyon> I need to wee wee
22:00:21 <Ampera> have fun
22:03:56 <Halcyon> I did
22:04:33 <Ampera> I need to get back to writing more tests in a bit
22:04:53 <Halcyon> Okies
22:05:01 <Halcyon> I should go to bed, but I don't wanna
22:05:08 * Halcyon pokes T3sl4 annoyingly
22:06:21 * T3sl4 wraps Halcyon tightly in a duvet, and stuffs a pillow tightly in the head end
22:06:51 <Halcyon> Aw you're a sweetheart
22:08:54 <K> ... then takes a roll of duct tape, a hydrographic map of nearby watter body and some old Tek scopes.
22:09:42 <Halcyon> :P
22:09:48 <Halcyon> You're mean K
22:10:21 <K> i prefer "practical"
22:10:39 <Ampera> Halcyon, check discord
22:11:19 <Halcyon> Aw cute
22:11:27 <Halcyon> Looks like you have a lion's mane
22:11:50 <Halcyon> Speaking of webcams
22:11:57 <Halcyon> You need to set up a bunny cam
22:14:36 <Ampera> I'd prefer not to have any live public feeds in my home
22:41:19 <Ysjoelfir> woohoo! I got an early birthday present!
22:45:57 <steve30> hi
22:55:55 <Ysjoelfir> hi steve
23:00:18 <steve30> I had a tyre disaster earlier
23:03:16 <K> whadidya get?
23:03:42 <Ysjoelfir> aww. did you manage to fix it steve30?
23:03:52 <Ysjoelfir> K - a shrooooom DIY set :)
23:04:08 <Ysjoelfir> like, some substrate with some mycelium already in it to grow my own shrooms
23:04:15 <K> uh, what kind of shrooms?
23:04:26 <Ysjoelfir> Shii-take
23:04:34 <K> oh.
23:04:44 <K> shee take and never give back
23:05:12 <steve30> My 6 month old tyre got damaged somehow. It looks like someone cut it with a pair of scissors.
23:05:39 <Ysjoelfir> Exactly those xD I think I'll get some more sets though, my mum kinda hinted in that direction^^
23:05:56 <Ysjoelfir> eh? that sounds like sabotage steve
23:06:24 <steve30> I put a patch on the damaged inner tube and pumped it up a bit, but there was still something wrong, so I rode it flat until I could go somewhere quiet to investigate.
23:06:58 <steve30> I had to redo the original patch, and found another 3 or 4 punctures in the inner tube to repair. I fixed it eventually.
23:07:24 <steve30> Then I stuck a patch on the underside of the tyre, and slipped in one of those new-fangled polymer £5 notes to reinforce it, and it was perfectly good for the ride home :).
23:08:11 <steve30> Ysjoelfir, it happened while riding so can't be sabotage.
23:08:36 <Ysjoelfir> I love the 5£ patch xD
23:11:19 <steve30> They are quite tough, these new banknotes. There are probably 'cheaper' options available, but I had £5 notes in my wallet.
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23:29:10 <Ysjoelfir> you brits and your strange currency.... :P
23:30:34 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIw-na994kg K, you might enjoy that
23:31:40 <Ampera> yeah, your currency isn't green enough
23:31:53 <steve30> £5 is green
23:32:23 <steve30> Interestingly, my Canon XL1 unboxing video has had 600 views
23:32:31 <Ampera> looks blue to me
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23:40:18 <Ysjoelfir> you're welcome :) Did you see my link yesterday (?)? with the next Schlumberger from Mr. ice tea?
23:44:05 <K> yea, you think to get one for parts would be wise?
23:44:45 <Ysjoelfir> I dunno. If I were you I would at least put that to my watchlist and see if it ends cheap. if it does I think one for spares is not a bad idea.
23:45:14 <K> i'll keep an eye on it
23:47:53 <Ysjoelfir> :)
23:48:36 <K> ah, and he has a 100MHz 2245A scope
23:59:23 * steve30 makes a much needed coffee
23:59:31 <Ysjoelfir> that is a nice scope
23:59:38 * Ysjoelfir wants some tea