// #eevblog — 2021-02-26
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00:00:38 <Ampera> that's fish (usually)
00:00:39 <Ampera> not meat
00:01:12 <Ampera> and honestly I'd rather eat raw beef than raw fish if I didn't know it was sourced and dealt with reliably
00:02:11 <rust_collector> my uncle got really ill from eating bad fish
00:03:15 <Ampera> Beef tends to be quite safe so long as you deal with the exterior, which is most certainly done here with vinegar and salt
00:03:33 <Ampera> (and then drying, the outside is drier than the inside)
00:04:07 <rust_collector> I am not really worried about raw meat, except chicken
00:04:30 <Ampera> Somehow, and I am not trying it, chicken biltong is a concept that has been done and physically exists
00:07:05 <electrohead> yeah, chicken is one thing I don't mess with, raw
00:07:11 <electrohead> anything else, yeah I'm down
00:07:13 <electrohead> lol
00:07:27 <rust_collector> chicken sounds great, very hipster
00:07:49 <rust_collector> that and the japanese ball-fish.
00:09:56 <Ampera> Biltong isn't necessarily raw, it's cured rather than cooked
00:10:05 <Ampera> It's cured completely though, inside and out, through drying
00:10:40 <rust_collector> I would not eat dried uncooked chicken either
00:11:36 <rust_collector> otoh, I don't eat uncooked strawberries. maybe it is me
00:11:38 <Ampera> I wouldn't either, though it's possible because salmonella is a bacterium, completely dry chicken might be free of living salmonella
00:11:46 <Ampera> you what
00:12:04 <Ampera> I mean pies and preserves exist, but who the hell cooks their strawberries
00:12:17 <Ampera> mmm, strawberry preserves
00:12:20 <Ampera> I haven't had that in ages
00:12:29 <Ampera> great on a nice toast
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00:42:25 <electrohead> Kanye: heard you're getting divorced
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02:43:21 <Lord_of_nothing_> ✝RIP Cat ✝
02:43:37 <Lord_of_nothing_> How does everyone here feel?
02:43:51 * T3sl4 headpats arch intensely
02:44:51 <Lord_of_nothing_> Why does I get censored everywhere when I write: █░▓▒░█▓░█▒▓░
02:52:58 <arch> stop putting ascii porn
02:55:55 <arch> hm im starting to think the aoz1073 is very prone to noise. it's got an ultra sensitive error amp i think. if i bring my finger close to the comp pin, the ripple on the output goes up
03:00:34 <arch> maybe i should make this on a 2 layer PCB for comparison. drill a hole or two to connect pwr gnd on top and bottom
03:01:03 <arch> either ways, im making progress
03:01:51 <arch> probably not the best chip to learn feedback comp with though, cuz it's so sensitive. you see UC3843 on everything, even single layer boards, and those don't have any issues with noise affecting comp...
03:02:42 <Lord_of_nothing_> so you are a more the UTF8 fanboy?
03:06:13 <T3sl4> how about not doing that
03:06:14 <T3sl4> :^)
03:06:47 <T3sl4> also, can put C to GND, often see a lil like 10pF or something there
03:07:00 <T3sl4> i don't think it really matters, i rarely find it necessary, but it's something to try
03:08:12 <arch> i found some suitable 4.7uH inductors. need to etch another board to use them though, cuz they're big. probably rated like 5A or something
03:11:06 <arch> alright, last PCB i etch for this IC. will put a ground layer on bottom and join to pgnd
03:11:52 <arch> moving onto the UC3843 after this, since i more or less got the calcs correct for the loop comp yeee
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03:22:26 <T3sl4> i like to peel off some copper foil, then solder that around the edges
03:22:37 <T3sl4> i mean, if i'm not using multiple vias to stitch grounds closer
03:22:37 <rust_collector> Charly says always tell your mummy before you go off somewhere
03:22:53 <T3sl4> charly bit me
03:28:24 * rust_collector makes dinner
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03:33:29 <arch> next paycheck i should order a bunch of different tapped inductors off coilcraft
03:37:55 <hsn> Rusty
03:38:29 <hsn> Im bored and i dont want to continue https://photos.app.goo.gl/EBrUr1XFmBcH7kcZ8
03:38:57 <rust_collector> ok
03:39:15 <K> ur lazy, not bored.
03:40:17 <hsn> Im lazy bored k
03:40:27 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/7ZkCYFt3PnvwrGLW9
03:40:30 <K> yes, indeed, why not both.
03:41:04 <K> what is that?
03:41:13 <rust_collector> boring
03:41:34 <hsn> That is electro ecodation
03:41:37 <rust_collector> 3.6 boring
03:42:02 <hsn> Oxidation
03:42:10 <hsn> 3.6?
03:42:19 <hsn> Ah
03:42:33 <hsn> 100ah is what they want to the damn urine stuff
03:42:38 <hsn> 100A
03:42:41 <hsn> Wtf
03:42:44 <hsn> Im high
03:42:56 <hsn> And this:
03:43:11 <rust_collector> 100 amp urine?
03:43:41 <hsn> 100 amp going to urine
03:44:07 <rust_collector> have you been talking with mr pony?
03:44:28 <hsn> No
03:44:45 <rust_collector> ok
03:44:51 <hsn> Im no involve in this eo process so idk alot about it
03:45:05 <hsn> I just pass and say hi and take pics
03:45:16 <rust_collector> what are you talking about?
03:45:54 <rust_collector> you should post more stuff while you are high
03:45:55 <hsn> Its electro oxidation unit .. used for waste water treatment
03:46:24 <hsn> But im not involved alot in that project so thats all i can know xD
03:46:26 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/7U1tAQFAsdgJdWQ98
03:46:57 <hsn> This ^ however, is preparation for the next 200k water paper slurry cycles
03:47:33 <rust_collector> WOOHOO!
03:47:57 <hsn> So next few months .. i think we will fck the lab with paper fiber stuff
03:48:07 <hsn> If we didnt seal this thing
03:48:14 <hsn> We tend to do this studf
03:48:16 <hsn> F
03:48:37 <hsn> To do "unprofessional" stuff
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04:03:13 <T3sl4> https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/function
04:05:14 <hsn> Hello T3sl4
04:05:38 * T3sl4 flushes hsn away
04:05:42 <rust_collector> if you hit the next button, there is a good one
04:05:56 <hsn> I wish u happy thursday-friday transition period
04:09:19 <hsn> rust_collector: after death .. u dont cook
04:09:37 <hsn> U either get cooked or food being cooked for u
04:11:57 <K> eh?
04:12:05 <K> who does the cooking then
04:16:00 <T3sl4> "at some point during the cremation process, the body is perfectly cooked"
04:18:59 <K> somehow i doubt that
04:33:08 <arch> hmm, there's a problem with using fly-buck topology. the inductor coupling is imperfect, so even if you short the secondary side, the primary will not shut down
04:33:28 <arch> with the stray inductance, the regulator IC will still often functionm
04:34:13 <arch> i just tested it. i shorted out the secondary with a coupled inductor fly-buck. the IC works, the inductor heats up like a mofo, but it still works
04:46:19 <arch> it would work out nicely with a post regulation IC though
04:46:29 <arch> like a linear reg, or a load switch
04:58:26 <TheDude> so, linux wizards
04:58:43 <TheDude> I'm ssh'd into an orangepi that's running debian
04:58:55 <TheDude> and I can do 'service ssh stop'
04:59:02 <TheDude> and then 'service ssh start'
04:59:19 <TheDude> how come does the connection not crash after I stop the ssh service?
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04:59:47 <arch> sshd daemon continues running until you terminate the connection
05:00:01 <TheDude> oh
05:00:02 <arch> try disabling the service, then exit
05:00:06 <arch> you'll be locked out
05:00:12 <TheDude> okay, makes sense
05:00:31 <arch> well, disabling just disables it. you need to also stop it
05:00:45 <arch> but yeah, dont do that or ull be locked out
05:01:21 <TheDude> okay, now it actually makes sense
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05:01:42 <TheDude> if I stop it and start it again
05:01:49 <TheDude> and only then exit and log back in
05:02:01 <TheDude> will the new sshd_config settings be applied?
05:03:01 <arch> when you do systemctl restart, you log out of the session, then log back in. the new changes take effect then
05:03:15 <arch> or alternative
05:03:20 <arch> you can open a new session
05:03:37 <arch> but regardless, you have to restart ssh service
05:03:44 <TheDude> alright
05:03:45 <TheDude> ty
05:04:10 <arch> np
05:15:28 <hsn> T3sl4: Ysjoelfir new saturn pcb is released
05:15:37 <hsn> If u use that...
05:15:42 <T3sl4> neat
05:19:01 <arch> i was curious, so i ran my buck reg without any compensation components soldered in. my lamp that i connected to it started flickering like crazy
05:19:36 <arch> let me get a capture of what the switched node waveforms looks like
05:23:33 <arch> https://imgur.com/a/KrfLlAz
05:23:38 <arch> huehue
05:24:44 <arch> frequency is all over the place, and it seems the duty cycle is at the chip's minimum, which is 6% on time
05:33:52 <TheDude> aaaayyyy, it works :)
05:35:11 <TheDude> now I just need to disable the password login and I can open the port to the interwebz
05:41:50 <TheDude> alright, fuck
05:42:05 <TheDude> I've achieved something, but screwed up something else
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06:37:42 <hsn> rust_collector: do i need to flip the table and coat the inside sides ?
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06:37:58 <hsn> Or just exposed to sun parts for example ?
06:38:01 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
06:38:22 <hsn> I guess its more like humidity so i need ?
06:38:30 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
06:38:40 * Ysjoelfir has the first bbq this year. me is happy
06:38:42 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: its 9
06:38:56 <hsn> Woho gimme bbq
06:38:57 <rust_collector> flip it and give it at least one coat. yes, for humidity. but you don't have to do a very nice job there
06:39:24 <hsn> I need to make top side dry and flip it after then
06:39:26 <rust_collector> did you go for the ikea oil?
06:39:43 <hsn> Yeah... No strong smells
06:39:51 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: wnjoy
06:39:52 <hsn> E
06:40:53 <rust_collector> what is the point, if there are no strong smells? why are you high anyway?
06:41:12 <Ysjoelfir> thanks, I do^^ its gorgeous.
06:41:22 <hsn> So i ll probably flip it tmrw after the top oil is dry .. and fix the shit thing i did last time
06:41:39 <hsn> Im high because Ysjoelfir is having bbq
06:41:44 <rust_collector> oh nice, a happy Ysjoelfir. that is useful
06:41:52 <hsn> When i smell bbq from germany i get high
06:42:13 <rust_collector> lack of oxygen, I guess.
06:42:39 <hsn> When they grill the smoke get up to u .. because u r up right?
06:43:03 <rust_collector> lots of jewish people went up, yes
06:43:18 <hsn> U jew ish?
06:43:27 <rust_collector> no
06:43:37 <hsn> 1 jesus went up also
06:43:42 <hsn> ?
06:44:18 <rust_collector> I dunno? maybe there was a mexican there. I guess he would also be sent to "work and education camp"
06:44:27 <Ysjoelfir> probably :P
06:45:24 <Ysjoelfir> also, I got my sharpening rotating wetstone machine thing. damn that thing is gorgeous, I got my knife sharp in no tim. Before I tried it by hand and had absolutely no luck, only made it more dull
06:45:33 <Ysjoelfir> that was some money well worth investing
06:46:47 <rust_collector> yeah, I guess it would be much easier
06:49:08 <rust_collector> isn't it annoying to watch some old guy just freehand it on a grinder, then do a quick touchup on a stone, and have it perfect in 2 minutes?
06:49:22 <Ysjoelfir> yes it is, absolutely
06:49:40 <Ysjoelfir> I went on with the stones for like.... hours and did go nowhere
06:50:50 <T3sl4> oh snap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JAgXz6xO0s
06:54:06 <rust_collector> that has to be the largest microswitch ever
06:54:51 <Ysjoelfir> maybe its a macroswitch
06:56:57 <T3sl4> ^
06:57:25 * T3sl4 sips some green tea with honey
07:05:10 * Ysjoelfir sips some of T3sl4 's green tea with honey
07:05:22 <T3sl4> :)
07:06:36 <Ysjoelfir> its nice. You did a good job there
07:14:56 <T3sl4> didn't i?
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07:15:41 <Ysjoelfir> you did indeed
07:33:13 <Halcyon> Morning all
07:33:20 <Ysjoelfir> mornings sweetheart
07:34:27 * T3sl4 gives Halcyon a green tea with honey as well
07:45:40 <electrohead> hey
07:54:30 <Lord_of_nothing_> well... https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H604addc283e44ff5a64443d4eafe7866F.jpg
08:09:23 <hsn> Dear fellow scholars
08:09:46 <hsn> Hold on to your paper .. im going to sleep gn
08:26:17 <rust_collector> hsn should go to bed now
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09:04:28 <DHess_US> https://xkcd.com/2425/
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11:13:52 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: heh, oh man, so in FTL i've got a stonking great sector 1, picked up lots of crew, bought BL2, got free bio beam, and 4 man teleporter (crystal B), and just bought a preigniter.
11:14:44 <T3sl4> so i can first strike enemy crew before boarding. this is insane
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11:43:53 <Guest|34137> do you ooffer discount?
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16:09:37 <MrMobodies> Hello
16:09:38 <EEVBlog> Hello there, MrMobodies!
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16:10:15 <KopaZ> anybody alive?
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16:10:55 <MrMobodies> I am trying to remove a file from the VMWARE file system
16:10:59 <MrMobodies> https://bobcares.com/blog/how-to-access-vmfs-datastore-from-linux-windows-and-esxi/
16:11:34 <MrMobodies> I found the culprit (which was hidden from the browser store and SSH browser) but is now visible in Ubuntu
16:18:27 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/Tsbnzyq.jpg
16:19:31 <MrMobodies> they say it is corruption on some Vmware threads but if I am able to rename and move the directories and nothing happened or such before this issue
16:20:16 <MrMobodies> I wonder what I am missing, a -W write parameter
16:20:23 <MrMobodies> when mounting the drive
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16:57:59 <MrMobodies> well further down I see in the commebt vmfs-fuse is read only. very disappointing, I don't feel I am in control of the file system when something like that happens over a locked file.
17:00:45 <MrMobodies> should have looked in the right places: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware_VMFS
17:01:10 <MrMobodies> looks like there is nothing i can do but store the folders somewhere until blank the disc
17:46:59 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
18:01:20 Nick: steve30000000 is now known as steve30
18:13:20 <steve30> hi
18:13:57 <Ysjoelfir> hi steve30
18:14:42 <steve30> I'm meeting music-video-guy later
18:14:59 <Ysjoelfir> nice! I'm curious hot that turns out :)
18:15:18 <steve30> Don't know how much to charge him. I don't want to charge him much as I've never done music videos before so can't offer any guarantee about how well it will turn out.
18:15:58 <Ysjoelfir> Could you suggest that you finish the video first and according how you like it you charge a different rate?
18:18:35 <steve30> Could do. He offered to pay but I don't know what kind of budget.
18:18:53 <Ysjoelfir> Then I would think that is the right way to go
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19:22:56 <Halcyon> Hey all
19:23:21 <steve30> hi
19:26:07 * steve30 snuggles up to Halcyon
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19:28:47 <Halcyon> :D
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20:04:03 <MrMobodies> since I installed that Ubuntu (to mount the vmfs file system) the fans rev to the maximum for about a minute after every boot.
20:04:30 <MrMobodies> despite the cooling policy to be set to minimal
20:05:29 <MrMobodies> I wonder if something was changed in the firmware or am I being paranoid.
20:09:28 <MrMobodies> oops I mean't before and at post not boot,
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20:41:13 <steve30> In this weeks news
20:41:15 <steve30> "Hugging loved ones could be allowed from mid-May"
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20:48:47 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
21:12:10 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-flight/
21:14:57 <K> hello berries
21:14:57 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
21:15:01 <K> yay
21:16:03 <T3sl4> hi
21:26:43 <Ysjoelfir> Hi K
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22:40:50 <Halcyon> T3sl4, that sounds about right
22:41:16 <Halcyon> Although Jerry goes nuts and flaps all around the house in circles
22:46:05 * Halcyon sneezes all over Ampera
23:11:38 <T3sl4> what a flap
23:16:50 <K> that old flapper!
23:17:41 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-YYXZ_TH1A
23:18:17 <T3sl4> stupid cat
23:18:22 <Halcyon> Yup
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