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28:16 <Sn0uu> rable
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55:33 <Ballig> must've been Sarien
57:09 <fued> how do "class" skills work
57:19 <fued> is it the latest class you got? or a combo of all your classes?
57:31 <Ballig> combo of all your classes
57:54 <Ballig> if a skill is on any of the lists of class skills for any class you have levels in, it's a class skill and you get a +3 bonus for having at least 1 rank in it
00:48 <fued> does it make any difference what order you take classes in? e.g. if i wanted 1 level of oracle for my bard, would i be better starting as an oracle or going bard->oracle->bard?
01:05 <Brunius> Do they have different HD?
01:11 <fued> nope
01:20 <Ballig> the only thing that would be different is the number of hit points you get
01:24 <Ballig> because you get full hit points at first level
04:02 <Hydrazine> Well, and gameplay for your first level, ofcourse.
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06:21 <fued> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/harmonic-spell
06:29 <fued> !feats harmonic-spell
06:36 <fued> would that work with oracle 1st level spells?
06:44 <fued> !feat harmonic spell
06:50 <fued> i suck at this bot lol
07:12 <Ballig> you need to have Bardic performance before you can take the feat
07:25 <fued> assuming i have 1 level in oracle and 1 in bard
07:48 <Ballig> it doesn't say it has to be a bard spell though
08:01 <Hydrazine> I see no rerason why not.
09:33 <Hydrazine> Arcane and divine spellcasting?
09:52 <fued> yeh, is that allowed?
10:22 <Hydrazine> Sure. I just ponder whether or not its really effective.
10:32 <Hydrazine> But don't take my thoughts as reason not to try it.
11:08 <fued> im trying to have a bard that can keep his performance going every fight lol
11:34 <Hydrazine> How many rounds can you reasonably get at level 1?
11:50 <fued> i had 8 last time, was nowhere near enough i felt
11:59 <fued> i can get upto around 16 with feats and maxing cha
12:09 <Hydrazine> 8 sounds like quite a bit to me.
12:18 <Hydrazine> Most combats only last 3 rounds or so.
12:20 <fued> i used em all up before the final fight lol
13:04 <fued> Although, for every level in bard you gain an additional 2, so im not sure if its even going to be an issue once i get level 4ish
13:49 <Hydrazine> My last game, the first fight took like 8 rounds.
13:58 <Hydrazine> Everything after that, we finished before the whole party got a turn.
14:23 <fued> i think ours was like 2/4/3/5
15:14 <Hydrazine> I'd say take consideration of how your spellcasting progression looks with a split arcane/divine, compared to sticking to one side.
16:15 <fued> would double my spells until around level 5, at which point it would double all but the level 2 spell
17:21 <Hydrazine> Remember that saving throws are based on caster level aswell.
18:01 <fued> yeah id use the oracle ones for things like double morale boost, making my performace twice as effective
19:07 <Hydrazine> Morale bonuses don't stack.
19:29 <fued> the spell says it doubles morale bonuses
19:33 <fued> thats all it does
19:41 <Hydrazine> huh. Mkay.
20:40 <fued> only works on one roll once
20:57 <fued> so the person under the influence of my song could have +2 attack and +1 damage, or +1 attack and +2 damage
24:29 <Hydrazine> Improves with level too?
25:02 <fued> not the spell, the bardic performance does tho
26:41 <MekkisScreen> 3cl kirsch
26:54 <MekkisScreen> 275g white chocolate
27:11 <MekkisScreen> Boil cream, remove from heat, add chocolate, stir until melted
27:28 <MekkisScreen> add kirsch, stir until combined, freeze overnight
27:40 <Mort-> What's a kirsch
27:50 <Mort-> Wow mek you are a cook?
27:55 <MekkisScreen> remove from freezer, knead, roll into balls and coat with cocoa before returning to freezer
28:10 <Steven> kirsch is alcohol
28:12 <MekkisScreen> I do cook, Mort- 
28:23 <MekkisScreen> enjoy with coffee
28:30 <Mort-> I don't cook ever since i picked up d&d
28:38 * Mort- blushes
28:48 <Steven> i cook all the time
28:49 <Mort-> My sats and Sundays have gone to gaming
29:24 <Steven> and its runs the gambit from really fancy to really basic and comfort food
29:41 <MekkisScreen> gambit or gauntlet?
30:27 <Steven> gambit i suppose, i never really liked that phrase but i catch myself using it occationally
30:36 <Mort-> I've been using my cook side on how to prepare meals quick so i can eat while playing
31:20 <Steven> its a corruption of the term run the gamut
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31:32 <MekkisScreen> I think I'll make a kangaroo pie tomorrow
31:51 <MekkisScreen> kangaroo, egg, tomato, bacon and onion
31:53 * Mort- jumps onto mekkis coat
32:09 * Mort- nibbles mekkis collar
32:10 * MekkisScreen left his coat in his car
32:15 <Mort-> Oh
32:30 * Mort- jumps on mekkis shoulder then
32:43 * Mort- nibbles mekkis sleeves
32:50 <MekkisScreen> do you want some kangaroo pie?
33:02 <Mort-> Yes please :)
33:23 <Hydrazine> pretty good then.
33:23 <Steven> never had kangaroo
33:32 <Mort-> Btw aren't kangeroos australias mascots?
33:37 <Mort-> Could have had it in my hands
33:46 <Mort-> If my friend had cooperated :(
33:56 <Steven> but i bet you guys have never had moose
34:01 <Mort-> But no he called me a greedy monster without a conscience
34:04 <Mort-> Yeah true
34:19 <Mort-> And refused to buy kangeroo jerky
34:31 <Mort-> From auzzie land for me :(
34:39 * Mort- is sad.
35:03 <MekkisScreen> why don't you come over here then?
35:11 <Mort-> Lol.
35:23 <Mort-> Won't happen. Mur families don't migrate
35:38 <MekkisScreen> why not?
36:01 <Mort-> Because the mur family is in sg
36:04 <Steven> actually lemurs do migrate... or at least they did
36:23 <Mort-> Not these unique murs.
36:47 <Mort-> These murs have oppossable thumbs and higher int
36:53 <Steven> they found lemurs in pakistan
37:16 <Mort-> Someone brought pet murs over
37:23 <Steven> Anyways.
38:13 <Steven> im gonna get another piece of the desert i made
38:23 <Mort-> Cool
44:37 <Ballig> saving throws aren't based on caster level
44:45 <Ballig> they're based on spell level and spellcasting stat
50:27 <fued> can you save a feat?
50:34 <Steven> alright, im back
51:29 <Steven> you cannot select a feat for which you do not meet all the prereqs
51:49 <Ballig> you can't not take a feat when you level and then take it later
52:00 <fued> ah ok
52:03 <fued> damn
59:34 <Steven> i should have bought some aleve when i was at the store tonight
00:17 <Ballig> how do you pronounce fued
00:27 <fued> few d
00:34 <fued> same was as feud
00:36 <fued> way*
00:38 <Ballig> oh
00:50 <Ballig> I might start pronouncing it "food"
00:54 <fued> yeah people do that
01:00 <fued> sometimes i add "one" to the end
01:12 <fued> and its few doughn
01:18 <fued> lol
01:39 <Ballig> I like "food one"
01:42 <Ballig> makes you sound like a fatty fat fat
01:59 <fued> haha
02:07 <fued> go for it
06:15 <MekkisScreen>  I always knew Steven liked eating sand
06:31 <Steven> and crow
06:54 <MekkisScreen> crow?
07:15 <Steven> its a bird
07:43 <MekkisScreen> you eat them?
08:07 <Steven> no its a US colloquial idiom
08:23 <Steven> meaning after taking a strong position on something
08:28 <Steven> you are proven wrong
08:51 <MekkisScreen> what did that have to do with eating sand?
08:56 <Steven> and then you admit it and feel kind of shamed
08:56 <Avatar> you eat sand?
10:26 <Steven> i said desert instead of dessert... 
10:35 <Steven> and mekkis is busting my balls over it
10:40 <Steven> cause he likes trolling too
12:16 <Avatar> I was just surprised because it didn't seem like you were disputing it
12:30 <Avatar> maybe I came in late
12:52 <Steven> nah, i wont ruin is worth trolling
14:40 <Steven> think imma shave my beard off when i get home
14:58 <Steven> cause my beard is around 3 inches long
18:47 <Steven> i want to abuse this....
18:59 <Steven> !spelldesc Blood Crow Strike
19:00 <diebot> Steven, BLOOD CROW STRIKE evocation ([fire]) cleric/oracle 4 1 round Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:yes
19:01 <diebot> Your unarmed strikes release blasts of energy in the form of bolts of fire or glowing red crows, which fly instantaneously to strike your target. You can make unarmed strike or flurry of blows attacks against the target as if it were in your threatened area; each successful attack deals damage as if you had hit it with your unarmed strike, except
19:01 <diebot> half the damage is fire and half is negative energy (this negative energy does not heal undead). For example, if you are a 14th-level monk, you can use a flurry of blows to attack five times, creating one energy crow for each successful attack against the target, and dealing 2d6 points of damage (plus appropriate unarmed strike modifiers) with each
19:01 <diebot> crow.
21:21 <Ballig> takes a full round to cast
25:09 <fued> so a long range monk? lol
25:40 <Ballig> a long range monk that requires 7 levels of oracle to pull off :p
26:02 <fued> and would still do more damage up close
26:05 <Ballig> well, 7 levels of cleric. probably 8 levels of oracle (not certain of the spell progression, assume it's the same as sorcerer)
26:26 <Ballig> using a level 4 spell just to do attacks that you could do if you were within range regularly doesn't seem that great
26:35 <Steven> yeah, i dont know how im gonna do it yet
26:44 <Steven> but, its a pretty cool spell
26:59 <Ballig> I think it's a pretty crap spell! take THAT, crap-spell-lover!
26:59 <Ballig> :)
27:23 <Steven> its okay, some peoples opinions are wrong... like yours right now.
27:32 <Steven> boosh!
27:45 <Ballig> your face is wrong!
27:51 <Steven> i cannot dispute this.
28:11 <Steven> but im probably going to buy a scroll of it for Folnor
28:54 <Steven> keep it around till he parties with a high level monk
29:27 <Hydrazine> Put ribbons in it.
29:29 <Hydrazine> Pink ones.
29:40 <Ballig> doesn't look like you can cast it on someone else
29:40 <Steven> yeah.... thats not gonna heppen
29:53 <Ballig> ah no, I just checked the proper description
29:56 <Ballig> you can cast it on someone else
29:57 <Ballig> wait, no
30:06 <Ballig> I think when it says "target one creature" it's talking about the damage
31:04 * Steven shrugs
32:07 <Hydrazine> range medium
32:11 <Hydrazine> you can cast it on someone else.
32:15 <Hydrazine> the ones you can't are range personal
32:15 <Steven> wonder how long the crow shooting lasts? one round probably
32:36 <Brunius> it's duration one round
32:46 <Brunius> er, instantaneous
32:50 <Brunius> huh?
33:07 <Hydrazine> wtf?
33:08 <Brunius> I'd say it happens immediately on spell finish
33:10 <Hydrazine> yeah, this is confusing.
33:31 <Ballig> Hydrazine: yeah but "casting it on someone", I think, is doing the damage to them
33:38 <Ballig> just like casting acid arrow on someone
33:56 <Hydrazine> I thought it was cast like a buff spell at first glance.
34:06 <Ballig> yeah I thought that for a second too
34:09 <Ballig> it's poorly written
34:09 <Hydrazine> but instead it looks like its cast like a damage spell.
34:13 <Ballig> yeah
34:20 <Hydrazine> And is just worded really awkwardly.
34:22 <Ballig> a lot of ultimate magic is poorly written
34:25 <Brunius> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/b/blood-crow-strike
34:31 <Ballig> yeah I'm looking at it
34:35 <Hydrazine> Because it isn't really clear on how long it lasts, if you can use it on someone else..
34:47 <Brunius> I think it is a target to damage
34:53 <Brunius> a burn spell, as it were
34:57 <Ballig> yeah
35:00 <Ballig> like casting acid arrow on someone
35:06 <Ballig> not casting acid arrow and giving it to someone else to throw
35:24 <Steven> alright a monk with UMD...
35:47 <Hydrazine> And the 'if you are a 14th level monk' in the example, on a spell that requires you to be a level 7 cleric/oracle?
35:55 <Ballig> haha yeah
36:03 <Hydrazine> Its like they're intentionally trying to mislead you.
36:05 <Ballig> apparently they are trying to convince people to be cleric/monk
36:20 <Hydrazine> Hey, cleric/monk is kinda cool.
36:26 <Steven> well they are both wis based class
36:39 <Hydrazine> Or would be, if monks weren't so tricky to make effective.
37:23 <Ballig> I think a monk with a ~+17 to UMD who doesn't mind spending 700 gold to do their regular attack at range for one round probably deserves to be able to use that spell
37:53 <Steven> cheaper then a potion of fly...
38:05 <Ballig> shouldn't you be comparing it to a scroll of fly
38:11 <Steven> nah
38:26 <Steven> the comparision breaks down after one round of combat effectiveness
56:18 <Hydrazine> UMD is cha based yes?
56:52 <Steven> yup
04:21 <MekkisScreen> so, I need to reliably make a DC30 UMD check. Any suggestions on how to achieve that?
04:30 <Brunius> lots of charisma
04:39 <Brunius> masterwork tool?
04:48 <Brunius> Isn't there a headband that gives you a bonus to cha checks?
04:58 <MekkisScreen> well
05:13 <MekkisScreen> Itzamna has 18 cha, and can get the headband that gives him max ranks
05:33 <MekkisScreen> so that's +13 (+8 ranks, +3 class, +4 cha)
06:47 <Brunius> Masterwork tool (perhaps a 'How to' book?)?
07:25 <Steven> Trait, Strength of the sun, you get +1 on all charisma based skills
07:26 <MekkisScreen> "Impersonating the Lawful Evil Alignment for Dummies"
07:45 <MekkisScreen> "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Pretending to be Lawful Good"
08:16 <MekkisScreen> Steven: trait bonus?
08:21 <Steven> yup
08:34 <MekkisScreen> so +2 from a tool, and +1 from a trait
08:43 <MekkisScreen> for +16
08:52 <Steven> why do you need a +30 anyways?
09:03 <MekkisScreen> to emulate an alignment
09:16 <Steven> please explain
09:30 <MekkisScreen> I need to achieve DC30, not +30
09:47 <MekkisScreen> (so +29 is sufficient - or +20 and some way that lets me take 10)
10:15 <Steven> how many times?
10:27 <MekkisScreen> two or three per day
10:28 <Steven> just once, or consistantly?
10:37 <MekkisScreen> probably in combat
12:04 <Steven> do you just need to detect as a different alignment or do you need to actually do acts that correspond to those alignments 
12:17 <MekkisScreen> I need to use items that require those alignments
13:22 <Steven> so you need a way to say circumvent the negative levels being slapped on you while wielding an unholy weapon... or something like that
13:29 <MekkisScreen> yeah
13:47 <Steven> how are you planning to do that?
13:54 <MekkisScreen> UMD
13:59 <MekkisScreen> that's what UMD's for
15:04 <Steven> give me a few minutes... ill think up some stuff
15:36 <Steven> you have skill focus right?
16:10 <MekkisScreen> not yet, but I can get it at ninth if needed
17:16 <Steven> hmmm....
19:58 <Steven> class?
20:04 <MekkisScreen> summoner
25:57 <Steven> do you have the cha headband?
26:07 <MekkisScreen> no headband yet
26:11 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/circlet-of-persuasion
26:56 <Steven> and its a competence bonus which means you could at a later date pick up an ion stone for cha
26:58 <MekkisScreen> that's headband slot?!
26:59 <MekkisScreen> wow
27:17 <Steven> yeah
27:20 <MekkisScreen> nope
27:21 <MekkisScreen> head slot
27:43 <Steven> i was gonna say headband and head slot same
27:59 <MekkisScreen> but you realised that it isn't?
28:47 <Steven> for a lot of GMs it is, kind of annoying that it doesnt list the magic slot its put in, which leave room for interpretation
29:18 <Steven> think all items should be listed with exactly where it goes
29:21 <MekkisScreen> it's pretty clear: it says "Slot: head" in the description
29:54 <Steven> and on the head, there is face and head and ive seen things that list head but they are goggles
30:59 <Steven> i like ioun stones and just filling up the face and head slots with little things
31:32 <MekkisScreen> I don't believe there is a face slot
32:17 <MekkisScreen> oh
32:24 <MekkisScreen> there's teh Fog-cutting lenses
32:25 <Avatar> there is, for masks 
32:47 <Avatar> and goggles and the like
32:59 <Avatar> I've never bought an ioun stone
33:06 <Avatar> I've always thought they were too cheap
33:15 <Avatar> but I'm screwing myself by not doing so
33:42 <Steven> anyways a +3 and an ioun stone of +2 will net you 5 bonus to UMD
33:59 <MekkisScreen> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/slots.txt
34:37 <Steven> recently read an interesting post that implanting an ioun stone is a 100% success rate.
34:59 <Avatar> what do you mean implanting
35:08 <MekkisScreen> seeker of secrets
35:14 <MekkisScreen> lets you implant ioun stones
35:14 <Steven> you can implant an ioun stone into your skin
35:17 <Mort-> I didn't suggest to him mw tool because he might find it too cheesy
35:22 <fued> im assuming all 3rd party feats arent allowed in pfs?
35:25 <Steven> usually you have to make a dc 20 cha check
35:28 <Mort-> Yes but i not sure if that allowed
35:32 <Steven> but in pfs its an auto succeed
36:07 <MekkisScreen> I believe the tool is a competence bonus, which doesn't stack with the circlet of persuasion
36:29 <MekkisScreen> you should have the stones orbiting your head
36:45 <Steven> yes, so they can be sundered....
37:00 <MekkisScreen> sure. When's the last time you saw a ioun stone be sundered.
37:17 <Steven> ive seen some GMs try *cough cough* Bobby *cough cough*
37:24 <MekkisScreen> start sundering guns first :)
38:42 <MekkisScreen> Steven: why not just cast continual flame on it, and buy 40 ioun torches :)
38:46 <Mort-> Competence bonuses don't stack
39:03 <Mort-> I'm scared someone will sunder my ioun torch
39:17 <MekkisScreen> you'll never see those 75gp again
39:19 <Mort-> Then ill be left alone in the dark :(
39:26 <MekkisScreen> so get two
39:29 <MekkisScreen> or fifty
39:33 <Mort-> Actually.
39:46 <Mort-> The real continual flame is on my rod of reach
39:57 <Mort-> And my dazing rod.
44:47 <Mort-> I really like my ioun torch
45:15 <Steven> i like darkvision
49:40 <Brunius> I like stumbling around in the dark
52:23 <Mort-> I like dark vision too but not everyone has it
52:43 * Mort- curls around bru
53:19 <Mort-> I don't like gnomes :d
53:59 <Brunius> So burn them.
54:00 <Brunius> With fire.
54:55 <Steven> i tried doing that with things i dont like... they said it was illegal
55:06 <Brunius> burn their laws.
55:32 <Steven> i started with those...
55:40 <Steven> they have more guns then i do
56:07 <Brunius> Doesn't matter if you have bigger guns
58:06 <Steven> think imma get a flying carpet for one of my characters
59:48 <Steven> fly around like a total boss
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01:12 <Steven> hmmmm..... my oracle really wont need much gear over the course of her life.
02:12 <Mort-> Oh!
02:21 <Brunius> Hmm
02:34 <Mort-> I can toast gnomes?
02:40 <Brunius> Which is the least hard/frustrating of the FS?
02:53 <Mort-> 3 id say
02:57 <Brunius> Sure, why not? It's not like they're people
03:01 <Mort-> Just keep out of the bog and you're good
03:20 <Mort-> Don't quarrel with the kobold and you're easy to go
03:47 <Mort-> Of course fork spork and their tengu buddy would have found a way to mess it up
03:54 * Mort- sighs
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07:10 <Mort-> Ok next stop. Find opportunities to punt gnomes
07:18 <Mort-> And make fun of gnomes
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25:51 <Steven> oh my goodness
25:58 <Steven> its 130
26:10 <Steven> imma go talk to sam and then go to bed, have fun peoples!
29:35 <Steven> keep kickin ass everybody!
29:53 <Steven> and mort, im sure theres a recipe somewhere for apple tosca
34:09 <Mort-> Cool have fun
47:09 * Mort- paws mekkis
01:16 <MekkisScreen> fued: not at all
21:20 <fuedR> as a favoured class bonus
21:20 <fuedR>  +1/2 on Diplomacy checks to gather information
21:30 <fuedR> does that add 1/2 a point? 
22:58 <Brunius> 1/2 your bonus, probably
23:03 <Brunius> What's that from?
23:58 <Ballig> it's a class bonus, so it would be half a point
24:05 <Ballig> but it only counts when it's a full point
25:04 <fuedR> ah ok thanks
26:24 <fuedR> im thinkin ill make korum a oracle for 1st level, and level into bard for my 2nd levl
26:37 <fuedR> then stick with bard
28:08 <Ballig> what do you get out of oracle
29:46 <fuedR> a few extra spells, some nice mystery bonuses
30:14 <Ballig> like what
30:37 <fuedR> using charasma for all knowledge checks and initiative
30:55 <fuedR> and reflex /ac
40:37 <Brunius> Hmm
40:43 <Brunius> Wonder if this whacked a bootloader on
40:47 <Brunius> Might be a problem if it didn't...
48:27 <Avatar> zzzzz
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13:15 <Brunius> Wow, Wayland games is 45% off today
14:20 <Brunius> Ah, only some stuff. That makes more sense
27:01 <Brunius> Night guys
28:01 <Mort-> Night bru
49:15 <Brunius> Night folks
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33:28 <spider21b> hi!
28:34 <Sn0uu> rable
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07:00 <MekkisScreen> nothing is inherently wrong with being Good
07:29 <MekkisScreen> and fyi, production increase after slavery was abolished!
07:48 <Steven> i never said anything about production
07:50 <Steven> i said inflation
08:29 <MekkisScreen> last I checked, inflation was out of control in the CSA
08:40 <MekkisScreen> whereas it was managable in the USA
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12:03 <Steven> so mekkis... what you doin?
13:13 <MekkisScreen> orking
13:29 <Steven> having any fun at that
13:40 <MekkisScreen> not really
13:42 <MekkisScreen> you?
14:03 <Steven> i went and cut down a few cedar trees today
14:17 <Steven> spent the afternoon splitting them
15:25 <MekkisScreen> planning on voting?
15:40 <Steven> yeah
15:57 <Steven> my civic duty
16:35 <Steven> if i dont vote i have no right to complain when whoever wins fucks something up and by god i want that right!
17:05 <MekkisScreen> heh
17:31 <MekkisScreen> what does a ballot slip look like?
18:01 <Steven> depends on what system they are using
18:48 <Steven> last year, you inserted a punch card into a slot
19:05 <Steven> and then you pushed buttons depending on what you were voting for
19:09 <Steven> and it punched holes in the card
21:08 <MekkisScreen> wow
21:24 <Steven> i dunno what they are doing this year
22:22 <Steven> sadly the county/district i live in
22:30 <Steven> has a university in it
23:00 <Steven> and so its voted the same way for the last.... 64 years i think
23:27 <Steven> because all the kids go and all vote left because republicans of course are evil
23:40 <Steven> they dont want to give money to everyone
23:56 <Steven> and then the rest of the state votes republican
24:16 <Steven> and so, yeah... the states a red state
24:25 <Steven> worth a whole 4 votes in the electoral college...
24:41 <Steven> obama didnt even bother comming to the state lol
26:06 <Steven> you know what, im wrong... he went to boise
26:14 <Steven> i remember reading about it.
26:41 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
27:03 <MekkisScreen> I didn't thinkk you could vote left in america
27:28 <Steven> oh yeah
27:50 <MekkisScreen> you either vote far right or slightly less far right
28:12 <MekkisScreen> if you vote slightly less far right, you're a "socialist" :P
28:14 <Steven> infact the only reason democrats get elected is because a greater portion of democrats actually vote
28:32 <Steven> a great deal of the US is actual conservative, but they have low turn out numbers
28:54 <MekkisScreen> we consider 95% a low turnout here...
29:09 <Steven> in america... we consider about 40% a high turn out
29:11 <Hydrazine> Your voting is compulsory, not voluntary, correct?
29:42 <MekkisScreen> more or less. You're required to show up, pay a fine or have A Good Reason
30:01 <Steven> i wish more people in this country would vote
30:07 <MekkisScreen> what you write on your paper is your choice
30:15 <Steven> and that they would put more things on the ballot to vote on.
30:33 <Steven> last year on my way out of the voting station
30:34 <MekkisScreen> they should have preferential voting
30:54 <MekkisScreen> (and they should put elections on weekends)
31:32 <Steven> i heard a girl chatting with her friend, and the gist of what she said was, yeah i voted for barrack and then i just went through and selected every democrat.
31:50 <Steven> and i just wanted to beat the shit out of her.  Party line voting is just retarded.
32:59 <Steven> sorry not last year, but last election
33:08 <Steven> im sure you guys knew what i  meant though
33:45 <MekkisScreen> you should have to fill out a form like http://taheny.com/IMG_4134_my_ballot_papers_500x281.JPG
34:01 <MekkisScreen> fill each box under the line, from 1 to 65
34:07 <MekkisScreen> in order of preference
34:34 <Steven> yeah, no fuck that shit
34:47 <Steven> i like the little card thing
34:58 <Steven> you flip through a booklet, and push the relevant buttons
35:40 <Steven> it spits your card back out at you, and then you hand it to the lady, she tries to put a sticker on you that says "I Voted" you tell her fuck off, what i do is private and dont need everyone knowing.
35:53 <Steven> she frowns, you walk away happy you ruined somebodies high spirits
36:27 <Steven> it also prevents people from continually asking who you voted for, since they know.
36:31 <Steven> that you voted
36:55 <Steven> my way, they are like oh you havent voted yet?  and im just like nope doing it later today
37:04 <Steven> shuts em up with one line
48:11 <Steven> oh those fuckers...
48:26 <Steven> they are having a halloween party right now
48:31 <Steven> they sent me pictures
15:53 <Steven> rawr!
20:19 <Steven> im gonna go troll the forums
35:26 <spider21b> trolll!!!!1
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47:30 <Steven> yup....
47:49 <Steven> good times...
48:15 <Steven> i didnt find anything worthy of trollness
48:33 <Mort-> Back
48:37 <Mort-> Was working
50:08 <Steven> im dickin around
50:15 <Steven> mekkis is working too
50:22 <Steven> i have the better end of this whole deal
51:55 * Mort- wonders if steven has cookies
52:26 * Mort- dig digs Steven for cookies
52:47 * Steven hands mort a cookie....
52:51 <Steven> go ahead and eat it...
53:10 * Mort- eats cookie
53:28 <Mort-> Anything happens?
53:37 <Steven> yes...
54:10 <Steven> you have all the satisfaction a digital cookie can provide
54:31 * Mort- purrs
57:37 <Steven> mmmmmmmmmm chili and fritos
57:38 <Mort-> At least the last time i ate cookies it was a polymorphed cookie
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58:40 <Steven> mort...
58:44 <Steven> i made apple tosca
58:50 <Steven> its better then cookies
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00:37 <mortswishytail> Really?
00:50 * mortswishytail pops over for those
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01:30 <Mort-> Ok tail hidden
02:10 <Steven> yup, its a sweet bread with apples and caramelized slivered almonds over the top
02:30 <Mort-> Interesting. How do you make that
02:47 <Steven> with skill
10:35 <Mort-> Recipe dude
11:13 <Steven> NEVER!
11:25 <Steven> okay thats not true
11:33 <Steven> you can purchase the book im putting them in.
13:11 <Steven> bwahahahahah
16:22 <Mort-> Pirates and their ilk
16:31 * Mort- turns her nose upwards
17:04 <Mort-> Would you do something nice for a small mur?
18:06 <Steven> depends
20:13 <Mort-> I'm a poor bankrupt mur :p
20:22 <Mort-> I just asked for a recipe?
20:46 <Steven> got any recipes to exchange?
20:52 <MekkisScreen> yeah
22:12 <Mort-> I have some
22:16 <MekkisScreen> but my recipes are worth more than yours, Steven 
22:23 <Mort-> I have a lemongrass recipe
22:52 <MekkisScreen> don't you just add weed?
23:07 <Steven> hmmmm.... if it includes chicken or fish i dont want anything to do with it.
23:07 <Mort-> Lemon grass jelly recipe
23:14 <Mort-> Its a desert lol
23:33 <Steven> oh then hell no, i have enough desert recipes
24:11 <Mort-> Problem is i tend to work with chicken and fish
24:27 <Mort-> Unless you wanted my sphaghetti recipe
25:07 <Steven> nah, i have 6 different spaghetti recipes
25:21 <MekkisScreen> are they better than the Simple one?
25:26 <Steven> yes
26:00 <MekkisScreen> ok. 
26:13 <MekkisScreen> 45ml heavy cream
26:22 <MekkisScreen> 3cl kirsch
26:35 <MekkisScreen> 275g white chocolate
26:52 <MekkisScreen> Boil cream, remove from heat, add chocolate, stir until melted
27:10 <MekkisScreen> add kirsch, stir until combined, freeze overnight
27:22 <Mort-> What's a kirsch
27:32 <Mort-> Wow mek you are a cook?
27:37 <MekkisScreen> remove from freezer, knead, roll into balls and coat with cocoa before returning to freezer
27:52 <Steven> kirsch is alcohol
27:54 <MekkisScreen> I do cook, Mort- 
28:05 <MekkisScreen> enjoy with coffee
28:12 <Mort-> I don't cook ever since i picked up d&d
28:19 * Mort- blushes
28:30 <Steven> i cook all the time
28:31 <Mort-> My sats and Sundays have gone to gaming
29:06 <Steven> and its runs the gambit from really fancy to really basic and comfort food
29:23 <MekkisScreen> gambit or gauntlet?
30:09 <Steven> gambit i suppose, i never really liked that phrase but i catch myself using it occationally
30:17 <Mort-> I've been using my cook side on how to prepare meals quick so i can eat while playing
31:02 <Steven> its a corruption of the term run the gamut
31:14 <MekkisScreen> I think I'll make a kangaroo pie tomorrow
31:33 <MekkisScreen> kangaroo, egg, tomato, bacon and onion
31:35 * Mort- jumps onto mekkis coat
31:51 * Mort- nibbles mekkis collar
31:52 * MekkisScreen left his coat in his car
31:57 <Mort-> Oh
32:12 * Mort- jumps on mekkis shoulder then
32:25 * Mort- nibbles mekkis sleeves
32:32 <MekkisScreen> do you want some kangaroo pie?
32:44 <Mort-> Yes please :)
33:05 <Steven> never had kangaroo
33:13 <Mort-> Btw aren't kangeroos australias mascots?
33:19 <Mort-> Could have had it in my hands
33:28 <Mort-> If my friend had cooperated :(
33:38 <Steven> but i bet you guys have never had moose
33:43 <Mort-> But no he called me a greedy monster without a conscience
33:46 <Mort-> Yeah true
34:01 <Mort-> And refused to buy kangeroo jerky
34:13 <Mort-> From auzzie land for me :(
34:21 * Mort- is sad.
34:44 <MekkisScreen> why don't you come over here then?
34:52 <Mort-> Lol.
35:05 <Mort-> Won't happen. Mur families don't migrate
35:20 <MekkisScreen> why not?
35:43 <Mort-> Because the mur family is in sg
35:45 <Steven> actually lemurs do migrate... or at least they did
36:05 <Mort-> Not these unique murs.
36:28 <Mort-> These murs have oppossable thumbs and higher int
36:35 <Steven> they found lemurs in pakistan
36:58 <Mort-> Someone brought pet murs over
37:04 <Steven> Anyways.
37:54 <Steven> im gonna get another piece of the desert i made
38:05 <Mort-> Cool
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48:45 <Avatar> zzzzz
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05:57 <MekkisScreen>  I always knew Steven liked eating sand
06:13 <Steven> and crow
06:35 <MekkisScreen> crow?
06:57 <Steven> its a bird
07:25 <MekkisScreen> you eat them?
07:48 <Steven> no its a US colloquial idiom
08:04 <Steven> meaning after taking a strong position on something
08:10 <Steven> you are proven wrong
08:32 <MekkisScreen> what did that have to do with eating sand?
08:38 <Steven> and then you admit it and feel kind of shamed
08:38 <Avatar> you eat sand?
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10:08 <Steven> i said desert instead of dessert... 
10:17 <Steven> and mekkis is busting my balls over it
10:22 <Steven> cause he likes trolling too
11:58 <Avatar> I was just surprised because it didn't seem like you were disputing it
12:12 <Avatar> maybe I came in late
12:34 <Steven> nah, i wont ruin is worth trolling
14:22 <Steven> think imma shave my beard off when i get home
14:39 <Steven> cause my beard is around 3 inches long
29:09 <Hydrazine> Put ribbons in it.
29:10 <Hydrazine> Pink ones.
29:22 <Steven> yeah.... thats not gonna heppen
04:03 <MekkisScreen> so, I need to reliably make a DC30 UMD check. Any suggestions on how to achieve that?
04:11 <Brunius> lots of charisma
04:20 <Brunius> masterwork tool?
04:30 <Brunius> Isn't there a headband that gives you a bonus to cha checks?
04:40 <MekkisScreen> well
04:55 <MekkisScreen> Itzamna has 18 cha, and can get the headband that gives him max ranks
05:14 <MekkisScreen> so that's +13 (+8 ranks, +3 class, +4 cha)
06:29 <Brunius> Masterwork tool (perhaps a 'How to' book?)?
07:07 <Steven> Trait, Strength of the sun, you get +1 on all charisma based skills
07:08 <MekkisScreen> "Impersonating the Lawful Evil Alignment for Dummies"
07:27 <MekkisScreen> "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Pretending to be Lawful Good"
07:58 <MekkisScreen> Steven: trait bonus?
08:02 <Steven> yup
08:16 <MekkisScreen> so +2 from a tool, and +1 from a trait
08:25 <MekkisScreen> for +16
08:33 <Steven> why do you need a +30 anyways?
08:45 <MekkisScreen> to emulate an alignment
08:58 <Steven> please explain
09:12 <MekkisScreen> I need to achieve DC30, not +30
09:28 <MekkisScreen> (so +29 is sufficient - or +20 and some way that lets me take 10)
09:57 <Steven> how many times?
10:09 <MekkisScreen> two or three per day
10:10 <Steven> just once, or consistantly?
10:19 <MekkisScreen> probably in combat
11:46 <Steven> do you just need to detect as a different alignment or do you need to actually do acts that correspond to those alignments 
11:59 <MekkisScreen> I need to use items that require those alignments
13:03 <Steven> so you need a way to say circumvent the negative levels being slapped on you while wielding an unholy weapon... or something like that
13:11 <MekkisScreen> yeah
13:29 <Steven> how are you planning to do that?
13:36 <MekkisScreen> UMD
13:41 <MekkisScreen> that's what UMD's for
14:46 <Steven> give me a few minutes... ill think up some stuff
15:18 <Steven> you have skill focus right?
15:52 <MekkisScreen> not yet, but I can get it at ninth if needed
16:58 <Steven> hmmm....
19:40 <Steven> class?
19:46 <MekkisScreen> summoner
25:38 <Steven> do you have the cha headband?
25:49 <MekkisScreen> no headband yet
25:53 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/circlet-of-persuasion
26:38 <Steven> and its a competence bonus which means you could at a later date pick up an ion stone for cha
26:39 <MekkisScreen> that's headband slot?!
26:40 <MekkisScreen> wow
26:59 <Steven> yeah
27:02 <MekkisScreen> nope
27:03 <MekkisScreen> head slot
27:25 <Steven> i was gonna say headband and head slot same
27:41 <MekkisScreen> but you realised that it isn't?
28:28 <Steven> for a lot of GMs it is, kind of annoying that it doesnt list the magic slot its put in, which leave room for interpretation
28:59 <Steven> think all items should be listed with exactly where it goes
29:03 <MekkisScreen> it's pretty clear: it says "Slot: head" in the description
29:36 <Steven> and on the head, there is face and head and ive seen things that list head but they are goggles
30:41 <Steven> i like ioun stones and just filling up the face and head slots with little things
31:13 <MekkisScreen> I don't believe there is a face slot
31:59 <MekkisScreen> oh
32:06 <MekkisScreen> there's teh Fog-cutting lenses
32:07 <Avatar> there is, for masks 
32:28 <Avatar> and goggles and the like
32:40 <Avatar> I've never bought an ioun stone
32:48 <Avatar> I've always thought they were too cheap
32:56 <Avatar> but I'm screwing myself by not doing so
33:24 <Steven> anyways a +3 and an ioun stone of +2 will net you 5 bonus to UMD
33:41 <MekkisScreen> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/slots.txt
34:19 <Steven> recently read an interesting post that implanting an ioun stone is a 100% success rate.
34:41 <Avatar> what do you mean implanting
34:50 <MekkisScreen> seeker of secrets
34:56 <MekkisScreen> lets you implant ioun stones
34:56 <Steven> you can implant an ioun stone into your skin
34:59 <Mort-> I didn't suggest to him mw tool because he might find it too cheesy
35:07 <Steven> usually you have to make a dc 20 cha check
35:10 <Mort-> Yes but i not sure if that allowed
35:14 <Steven> but in pfs its an auto succeed
35:48 <MekkisScreen> I believe the tool is a competence bonus, which doesn't stack with the circlet of persuasion
36:11 <MekkisScreen> you should have the stones orbiting your head
36:27 <Steven> yes, so they can be sundered....
36:42 <MekkisScreen> sure. When's the last time you saw a ioun stone be sundered.
36:59 <Steven> ive seen some GMs try *cough cough* Bobby *cough cough*
37:06 <MekkisScreen> start sundering guns first :)
38:24 <MekkisScreen> Steven: why not just cast continual flame on it, and buy 40 ioun torches :)
38:28 <Mort-> Competence bonuses don't stack
38:45 <Mort-> I'm scared someone will sunder my ioun torch
38:59 <MekkisScreen> you'll never see those 75gp again
39:01 <Mort-> Then ill be left alone in the dark :(
39:08 <MekkisScreen> so get two
39:11 <MekkisScreen> or fifty
39:15 <Mort-> Actually.
39:27 <Mort-> The real continual flame is on my rod of reach
39:38 <Mort-> And my dazing rod.
33:46 <spider21b> hi!
36:56 <Hydrazine> Hi!
26:02 <MekkisScreen> ............
31:24 <spider21b> hey hydrazine
31:28 <spider21b> any games today?
33:33 <Steven> check the website...
47:44 <Steven> i pretty bored...
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16:58 <Mort-> Hi Steven
17:24 * Mort- gives a drunken swish and tangles her tail with his legs
26:42 <Brunius> Night guys
27:43 <Mort-> Night bru
45:39 <Steven> sorry mort, i am quite nimble for my size and i would just dodge out of the way
45:57 <Steven> and if you were to somehow actually get tangled up... ide cut my way out
57:52 <Mort-> That's my tail..
00:46 <Steven> yeah.... hopefully you will think twice from now on about tripping people with it
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14:35 <spider21b> any games at all?
14:52 <Steven> would you like to play a game?
24:24 <MekkisScreen> how about a nice game of chess?
24:53 <Steven> YES!  mekkis you the man
25:16 <MekkisScreen> e4
25:28 <MekkisScreen> sorry
25:33 <MekkisScreen> 1. e4
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33:35 <spider21b> xd
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53:09 <Hydrazine> I never quite did get used to chess notation
00:14 <spider21b> blunderbuss here !
00:18 <spider21b> anyone from Andoran?
00:43 <Steven> no... they are tools
09:04 <spider21b> why do you belive this, taldor are scums of the earth!
09:26 <Steven> andorans almost as bad as Silver Crusade
10:23 <spider21b> na, taldor is bad
11:06 <Steven> fucking goody two shoes
11:30 <spider21b> what trying to stop slavery is a bad thing?
13:05 <Steven> yup...
13:08 <Steven> inflation goes up
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41:54 <spider21b> xd
44:07 * Mort- is an Andoran
44:26 * Mort- is also silver crusade
59:27 <Mort-> Because as a slave you're basically a tool that your master sees fit to use/abuse
59:37 <Mort-> But anyway I'm not really good by nature
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