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00:16 <Mekkis> I want an orb of storms
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09:54 <kapow> so avatar?
10:19 <kapow> every character you play has to have first steps or godsmouth heresy as their lvl 1 xp sets
10:36 <kapow> play 2 parts of first steps then play gods mouth heresey as lvl 1?
10:46 <kapow> to get 5xp without using up any credit
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38:30 <Emmanuel> Anyone home?
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10:58 <Wrothmonk> The gunslinger class is in the core rulebook correct?
11:18 <Ziria> no it isn't
11:43 <Wrothmonk> Which book then?
11:54 <Ziria> ultimate combat
12:08 <Wrothmonk> Ah cool.
12:09 <Ziria> http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/classes/gunslinger.html
12:24 <Wrothmonk> Thats one of the books I was planning on buying tonight anyway.
14:25 <Wrothmonk> Everything cool seems to be in ultimate combat and the core rulebook. At least to me anyway.
15:14 <Ziria> well, that should work out nicely then :)
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18:02 <Wrothmonk> Yup.
18:55 <Steven> inquisitors are in the APG and they are totaly cool
21:13 <Wrothmonk> wow BAB +1 each level.
21:38 <Wrothmonk> gunslinger
28:01 <N2H4> and hit on touch AC.
28:33 <N2H4> the only thing about gunslingers is that I think it takes a while to get the comparable action economy a fighter gets.
30:01 <Wrothmonk> comparable action economy?
41:43 <Steven> it means number of actions in a turn
42:11 <Steven> that achieves victory/end of combat
55:17 <N2H4> Its similar to the difference between a heavy crossbow and a longbow.
55:47 <N2H4> without feats, the longbowman can move and shoot every round. the crossbowman can either shoot and reload, or shoot and move, and have to reload next turn.
56:11 <N2H4> er. no, even worse. the heavy crossbow's a full round reload isn't it?
56:33 <N2H4> So yeah, sure its 1d10, but its every other round instead of 1d8 every round.
09:14 <Ballig> also someone with a longbow can make iterative attacks when his base attack bonus is +6 or higher (or with feats like rapid shot)
09:23 <Ballig> a crossbowman can't unless he's able to reduce the reload time to a free action
23:36 <Avatar> only with muskets
23:40 <Avatar> pistols are superfast
23:49 <Ballig> but they don't do as much damage
24:05 <Ballig> and unlike a fighter, you can't really increase the damage of the shot that easily
24:15 <Ballig> e.g. Rabble is level 3 and he does more bonus damage than his maximum weapon damage
25:27 <Wrothmonk> What class is rabble again?
25:31 <N2H4> fighter.
25:42 <Wrothmonk> Ah, thought he was an alchemist
25:42 <N2H4> but hes really a pile o' stats.
25:53 <N2H4> I think hes triple 7s for good luck.
26:07 <Ballig> yeah, he's my dumpstat fighter
26:23 <N2H4> Made with 100% real cheese!
26:27 <Wrothmonk> rofl.
26:31 <Ballig> only if you count dumpstat as cheese
26:37 <Wrothmonk> And absolute craziness?
26:44 <N2H4> But hes also funny as balls.
26:49 <N2H4> And that counts for alot in my book.
26:50 <Wrothmonk> He licked a door… repeatedly.
27:07 <Wrothmonk> Very true, he is awsome.
29:18 <Wrothmonk> Well once I buy the UC and core rule book pdfs I'm going to start working on making a gunslinger for the fri-sun games.
30:54 <Avatar> how did I not realise rabble was triple 7 dumpstatted
31:38 <Ballig> I told you he was dumpstated when I made him
32:25 <Wrothmonk> Dumpstating is when you take a stat out to the max and fill in the rest right?
32:48 <Ballig> yeah it's when you reduce stats you won't use to 7 and use those extra points to increase other stats
32:56 <Ballig> usually you end up with one of your stats at 20 and multiple stats at 7 or 8
47:20 <N2H4> Hoku's dumstatted pretty hard too.
47:23 <N2H4> Lyta isn't though.
47:43 <Ballig> I think eventually you're tempted to make one dumpstated character
47:50 <Ballig> every now and then you just want to shine at something
51:10 <N2H4> i think the game design encourages specialization.
52:33 <Wrothmonk> Rumil is kinda dumpstatted.
52:56 <Wrothmonk> I say kinda since I focused on strength and charism, instead of just one stat.
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55:34 <N2H4> Well, I think you have to dumpstat some to make a monk competitive.
56:55 <N2H4> otherwise the point buy gets you mediocre.
21:24 <Steven> its a pity more of the inquisitions arent open
37:52 <Wrothmonk> Is handle animal of any real use in PFS? I'm trying to decide if I should dump CHA or not.
42:14 <Wrothmonk> Then again bluff could be really effective in combat with feinting…  Especially if gun attacks go against touch AC
45:44 <Steven> you dont really need to hit vs flat footed touch
46:27 <Wrothmonk> good point… I just kinda like the idea of almost automatically hitting.
47:09 <Wrothmonk> Yeah I'm gan a dump CHA on my gunslinger.
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15:48 <N2H4> Handle animal's useful if you're playing with an animal companion or mount.
24:39 <Steven> but pretty much once you get +15 to your modifier, theres not much point in putting anything more into it
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46:57 <Avro> hi all
47:08 <Avro> anything fun happening today
51:23 <Steven> orgy later
54:06 <Wrothmonk> I'm working on a gunslinger char for friday's through sunday's first step games.
54:17 <Wrothmonk> Looking at feats now.
55:15 <Avro> looking at making a nercomacer cleric or a really messed up toon
15:22 <Wrothmonk> Necromancer cleric…. I think there are some rules against that sort of thing.
23:35 <Avro> really
24:11 <Wrothmonk> I'm not sure but I think I read something about that in the core rulebook. I was considering a necromancer as my first char.
28:16 <Wrothmonk> Anyone mind if I use the dicebot on the channel to do my random weight/height/age rolls?
28:36 <Steven> you can just pick in pfs.....
28:58 <Wrothmonk> I know but I prefer to just do a random.
29:59 <Wrothmonk> Nvm. Found my normal dice.
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59:08 <OsterGuard> morning all
00:33 <Mekkis> moin
09:39 <Avro> hi
10:28 <Mekkis> what weapons can be carried in scabbards?
13:42 <Wrothmonk> Is 19 AC at level 1 a bit overpowered?
15:18 <N2H4> Um. Most sword shaped weapons?
15:32 <N2H4> and I don't think anything's wrong with 19 AC. you sacrifice something to get it, huh?
15:49 <Wrothmonk> -2 CHA mod
16:06 <Wrothmonk> But thats about all I sacraficed.
16:13 <Wrothmonk> The rest are feats and a +5 DEX bonus
16:29 <Wrothmonk> stat dumped into dex + human racial
18:28 <Wrothmonk> My AC also jumps to 23 when I'm going through threatened squares. 
18:40 <Mekkis> can you put a lance in a scabbard?
18:53 <N2H4> I'd say no.
20:03 <N2H4> All the specialization does take away from other aspects of your character.. Unless you're a synthesist, which is likely why they got the axe.
22:07 <N2H4> Mekkis, for the sake of the arguement, lets say I put a lance in a scabbard.  Wikipedia says 4m is an appropriate length.
24:19 <N2H4> From previous measurements I know that the distance between my outstretched fingertips of both hands is slightly longer than I am tall, which is 1.8 meters.
24:56 <N2H4> So lets say I hold the scabbard in one hand and try to draw the lance out of it. I have insufficient length to actually get the whole thing out in one attempt.
25:08 <Wrothmonk> XD
25:16 <Wrothmonk> Sorry, just imagining that.
25:42 <N2H4> This is also humorous in consideration of oversized anime-style swords.
25:51 <N2H4> Sephiroth and Cloud, for instance.
26:03 <Wrothmonk> I have no clue who that is.
26:37 <N2H4> I asked google images to help.
26:37 <N2H4> http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/a/aa/Sephiroth_-_Kingdom_Hearts_Artwork_.png
26:54 <Wrothmonk> Ah kingdom hearts
26:58 <Wrothmonk> Yuuupppp....
27:01 <N2H4> FF7, originally.
27:02 <Wrothmonk> No scabbard for that guy
27:22 <N2H4> A lance also isn't bladed, Mekkis, its just pointy.
27:27 <Mekkis> true
28:55 <N2H4> And it doesn't even matter if my 4m assumption is just the business part of the lance, or total length. Even with the more conservative total length I'm still a good 2.2m short.
29:50 <Wrothmonk> Wow, I should have made a gunslinger earlier.
30:57 <Wrothmonk> These stats make me smile...
31:06 <N2H4> My monk does too.
31:48 <Wrothmonk> I prefer ranged but to be honest, I think this guy would be immune to mele :p
32:15 <Wrothmonk> melee*
32:16 <N2H4> Guns still provoke right?
32:23 <Wrothmonk> When loading yeah.
32:23 <Mekkis> yes
32:29 <Mekkis> thank god
32:49 <Mekkis> fucking gunslingers
37:01 <Wrothmonk> Anyone want to look over my char sheet to check for mistakes?
38:48 <N2H4> Sure.
39:03 <OsterGuard> There a game today?
39:15 <N2H4> Not that I'm like some gunslinger expert, but dammit I'm good at something.
39:28 <N2H4> How often can you shoot though? Whats your action use like?
39:53 <Wrothmonk> full round action to fire and reload
40:04 <Wrothmonk> Also I seem to have forgotten to buy ammunition...
41:19 <N2H4> You only pay 10% for it yeah?
42:24 <N2H4> So a level 2 fighter or ranger could be using rapid shot and throwing out 2 arrows a round, or shooting and moving, while you got to stand there just to keep putting out one bullet.
42:28 <N2H4> Sounds reasonable.
42:31 <Wrothmonk> Didn't see anything about that.
42:47 <Wrothmonk> paying 10% that is.
43:05 <Wrothmonk> it is however a 4x crit, and vs touch
43:05 <N2H4> Do I have to bust out my book-fu on your ass?
43:23 <Wrothmonk> Nah I believe you, and honestly that would be awsome.
45:34 <Wrothmonk> Whats the exchange rate for gold to silver? 10 silver per gold right?
46:28 <Wrothmonk> If thats the case I can get a bullet for a single silver piece.
46:59 <Wrothmonk> Does it apply to bullets and gunpowder or is it just bullets?
47:47 <Steven> bullets and gunpower, and if you have a rank in craft alchemy stuff
47:50 <N2H4> Gunsmithing does not grant the ability to craft firearms, ammunition, or black powder. Rather, it allows the purchase of bullets, pellets, black powder, and alchemical cartridges (with 1 rank in Craft [alchemy]) at the listed reduced price, but does not grant a discount on the purchase of any firearm. Resold items gained through this feat are worth half the actual cost paid, not half the regular market value for the item. No PC can purchase a gun wi
47:50 <N2H4> thout this feat, even if they possess the Amateur Gunslinger or Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearm) feats.
47:59 <N2H4> From the society additional resources list.
48:06 <Steven> yeah what hydra said
51:43 <N2H4> Alchemical cartridges are your friend. What sort of gun you shooting?
51:53 <Wrothmonk> Pistol
54:55 <N2H4> So with alchemical cartridges, you can reload as a move action. Classy.
55:21 <Wrothmonk> That would be usefull...
55:25 <Wrothmonk> And they appear to be cheaper.
55:36 <N2H4> Beats the hell out of a standard.
55:43 <Wrothmonk> Yup.
55:51 <N2H4> I don't think its cheaper. The comparison is to bullets and powder.
56:23 <Wrothmonk> Oh yup, its one silver more at the reduced price.
59:10 <Wrothmonk> quick question, can't you take a standard action instead of a movement action during combat?
59:24 <N2H4> No.
59:40 <Wrothmonk> Alchemical cartridges it is then!
59:42 <N2H4> You can take a movement instead of a standard, but not the other way.
59:57 <N2H4> Otherwise everyone would be able to jump into melee and attack twice, no?
00:51 <Wrothmonk> Ah yes, thats right
03:19 <N2H4> I been thinking about making a gunslinger myself.
03:20 <N2H4> Just never got around to it.
04:53 <N2H4> Hm. Considered the pistolero arch?
07:44 <N2H4> I was playing this future d20 stuff a few years ago Wroth, and I got SO EXCITED when I found the perfect prestige class to be a space marine with.
08:12 <Wrothmonk> Agh… I tried to turn one of my old sheets which was blank into my new gunslinger but I can't seem to change the name on it. Is there a way to or do I need to copy all the information over into a new char sheet?
10:09 <N2H4> Uh. I just use .txt files
11:02 <MekkisScreen> I use a LaTeX document
16:22 <Wrothmonk> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=525 Ok, got the char sheet done.
17:47 <MekkisScreen> !recentsheets
17:49 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Oct 4 00:06 308 Buck
17:50 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Oct 2 00:07 394 Rabble
17:50 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Sep 24 00:07 471 Henry
17:50 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Sep 23 00:07 338 Jax
17:50 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Sep 22 00:07 461 Paul
18:04 <MekkisScreen> !history Buck
18:10 <MekkisScreen> !history 308
18:11 <diebot> MekkisScreen, r30 | vpsirc | 2012-10-04 00:10:34 -0400 (Thu, 04 Oct 2012) | 1 line
18:12 <diebot> MekkisScreen, r3 | initial load | 2012-07-21 00:05:09 -0400 (Sat, 21 Jul 2012) | 1 line
19:04 <MekkisScreen> !diff 308 r3
19:05 <diebot> MekkisScreen, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/308r3.txt
19:15 <Steven> did you give up skilled?
19:45 <Wrothmonk> ?
20:04 <Steven> its a human ability gives an extra skill point per level
20:24 <Wrothmonk> No, but I should note that on the char sheet.
20:35 <Steven> also you have 5 skill points listed, but only put 4 skill points 
20:39 <Steven> in
21:01 <Wrothmonk> whoops, meant to put one in percept
21:25 <Steven> and craft alchemy is a good one to put at least one point in
21:44 <Wrothmonk> gunslinger skill/level is 4+int mod, I added in the human skill bonus.
22:11 <Brunius> Favored Class bonus?
22:15 <N2H4> Your skill totals don't seem to be adding up right.
23:02 <Wrothmonk> isn't it +3 on class skills you have a rank in?
23:12 <Wrothmonk> when they are favored class?
23:30 <Wrothmonk> fixed skill totals.
23:32 <N2H4> 1 rank+ 5 dex+ 3 favored class = 5 acrobatics?
23:36 <N2H4> This is not math!
24:13 <Wrothmonk> lol. Its not, its forgetting to hit the calculate button.
24:17 <Brunius> When it's a class skill you get +3
24:24 <N2H4> also, remember that you only get the big discount on ammo with a rank of craft: alchemy.
24:47 <Brunius> Whenever you take a level in one of your favored classes, you get either 1HP or 1 skill point
25:16 <Wrothmonk> ok so what do I need to put the bonus down as?
25:16 <Steven> i assumed he took a skill rank instead of 1hp
25:30 <N2H4> Looks like he hasn't taken either yet.
25:44 <Wrothmonk> well then that can be my craft alchemy...
27:15 <N2H4> when I make a gunslinger, i'm gonna get me a musket, and be rapid shotting stuff by level 5. yep.
27:45 <Wrothmonk> I'm going to be doing two pistols and diving onto the ground shooting a lot :p
27:51 <Wrothmonk> Looking awesome btw.
28:00 <Brunius> How are you going to reload while holding two pistols?
28:22 <Wrothmonk> oh right :(
28:47 <N2H4> quick draw?
28:51 <N2H4> buy like 6 guns!
28:55 <Brunius> They're 1.5k each
29:19 <Wrothmonk> Have you seen how much gold Rumil got from doing a few scenarios?
29:37 <N2H4> Hmmm..
29:47 <N2H4> So now I'm considering quick draw with throwing weapons.
29:57 <Brunius> There's more effective ways to do it
30:04 <Brunius> to spend you crash, I mean
30:19 <Brunius> I shouldn't mention this, but there IS a way to duel wield pistols
30:28 <Brunius> It's just pretty damn convoluted
30:47 <N2H4> It'd be easy if you had 3.5 quick draw.
30:55 <Brunius> You've got to use 2-3 feats to make everything free actions
31:13 <Wrothmonk> gah can't tell who's saying what. Damn glitchy colloquy
31:17 <Wrothmonk> brb
31:21 <MekkisScreen> I'm not going to make a gunslinger
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31:51 <Steven> even though i talk shit on em, i made one... mines not super broken.... yet
31:52 <Steven> lol
32:09 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: I have a ukrainian tourist map printed on A0. What should I do with it?
32:31 <Brunius> Beat Avatar over the head with it
32:38 <Brunius> Also, it's Czech
32:40 <Steven> yes a good beating....
32:48 <Brunius> When do you leave?
32:49 <MekkisScreen> a core rulebook is better for that
32:49 <Steven> whats A0 anyways?
32:56 <Brunius> Paper size
33:07 <MekkisScreen> Steven, an ISO standard paper size
33:08 <Steven> ah.... is it a big map?
33:25 <Brunius> About a yard by a yard, I believe
33:31 <Steven> cool
33:36 <MekkisScreen> the whole world uses it, except for third-world countries like Iran, Burma
33:43 <MekkisScreen> and the USA
33:54 <Steven> hey we arent a third world country
34:04 <Brunius> Prove it.
34:15 <Steven> we are just trending towards the bottom of the first world list
34:21 <Steven> lol
34:37 <N2H4> So does firing a ranged weapon in melee provoke or just loading?
34:39 <MekkisScreen> high amount of impoverished citizens? check
34:56 <MekkisScreen> no universal healthcare? Check
34:57 <Steven> yes firing a ranged weapon in melee provokes
34:59 <Brunius> Firing does
35:07 <Steven> there are feats that remove that if you want to invest in them
35:12 <MekkisScreen> high amounts of corruption? check
35:22 <Brunius> There's a feat so that if you're threatening them it doesn't
35:30 <Brunius> But it's at the top of one hell of a feat tree
35:41 <MekkisScreen> disproportionate amount of defence spending? check
36:15 <Steven> mekkis you are taking this far to seriously...
36:23 <MekkisScreen> you sure you're not a third world country?
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36:48 <Steven> you made a pointed remark, i countered with a joke, we had some laughs and then you ruin it by brow beating it to the ground
37:12 <Wrothmonk> I missed a lot I take it from steven's comment?
37:20 <Steven> not really
37:27 <N2H4> Don't worry about it.
37:27 <Steven> just me and mekkis playin
37:33 <Wrothmonk> Ah, K
37:37 <MekkisScreen> it's fine
37:41 <Steven> also, orange soda is delicious!
38:09 <MekkisScreen> I'll reserve my judgement if Romney gets elected
38:22 <Steven> you and me both...
38:33 <Steven> course... i will do the same thing if obama gets reelected
38:52 <MekkisScreen> (then there'll also be the "ruled by religious fundamentalists" checkbox)
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39:32 <Steven> oh come on, obama is just as zealous in his religion
40:04 <Steven> that being liberals are angels, and conservatives are obviously the devil
40:05 <MekkisScreen> you're not helping your case :P
40:19 <Steven> who said i was tryin?
40:21 <Steven> lol
40:23 <Wrothmonk> Agh, politics and religion!
40:35 <Steven> politics IS religion wroth
40:36 <Wrothmonk> Can we please go back to making my gunslinger more awomse?
40:43 <MekkisScreen> you're calling that a religion
41:12 <Steven> alright, switch to musket master
41:53 <Hydrazine> or take rapid reload instead of mobility.
42:14 <Hydrazine> With the +9 acrobatics, you should be fine for tumbling out of threatened squares anyway.
42:15 <Steven> i like musketmaster w/ rapid reload
42:17 <Brunius> yeah, always take rapid reload
42:18 <MekkisScreen> the sad thing is that the US 'liberals' would be ultraconservatives in pretty much any european country
43:05 <MekkisScreen> how should NPCs react to guns?
44:23 <Steven> probably a lot like they react to a wizard with a wand in his hand
44:53 <Brunius> Except it's more uncommon
44:58 <Brunius> And known that it can go very bad
45:04 <MekkisScreen> (Sunder them!) seems a logical response
45:14 <Hydrazine> wand golems! Shooting fire and shit everywhere!
45:47 <Steven> wroth just remember to pick up rapid shot, and deadly aim at some point okay?
46:23 <MekkisScreen> the "official" reason synthesists are banned is because they're really uncommon
47:09 <Hydrazine> Not because they get way more bang out of a 20 point buy than anyone else?
47:30 <MekkisScreen> that's not the official reason
47:34 <Wrothmonk> ok heres my plan.
47:59 <Steven> my musket master(next time i get to play with him) will level up and then i will be doing deadly aim/rapid shot w/ a +8/8 to hit for 2d12+22
48:04 <Wrothmonk> Wait no, just thought of a better one and need to think through it.
48:10 <Steven> if both hit that is
48:48 <Brunius> Against touch AC...
48:54 <Steven> yup
50:38 <Steven> at level 10, its going to be 2d12+30 +2d6 +holy if applicable
50:51 <Wrothmonk> ok re-did my feats to a better start setup I think.
50:55 <Steven> plus my extra attacks
51:12 <Steven> i have a feeling im going to do a lot of damage!
51:15 <Steven> bwahahahahahah
52:09 <Wrothmonk> I'll start out with point blank shot, exit sep proficiency (firearms) and rapid reload.
52:24 <Wrothmonk> level 3 I get rapid shot
52:34 <Brunius> exit sep proficiency?
53:07 <Wrothmonk> exotic*
53:14 <Wrothmonk> wep*
53:23 <Brunius> You don't need it, you're a gunslinger
53:34 <Steven> you already have proficiency, do you perhaps mean weapon focus?
53:41 <Brunius> Unless you automagically get it and are just listing it there for completeness
53:45 <Wrothmonk> rapid reload has it as a perquisite. 
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53:58 <Brunius> So?
54:07 <Wrothmonk> As far as I have read the exotic wep proficiency doesn't come automatically.
54:07 <Brunius> You still get it automatically as a gunslinger
54:08 <Hydrazine> Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Gunslingers are proficient with all simple and martial weapons, and with all firearms. 
54:15 <Wrothmonk> oh.
54:29 <Hydrazine> Same way that fighters start with light, medium, and heavy armor prof.
54:30 <Wrothmonk> ok its getting late, thats why my brain is going doh.
54:41 <Hydrazine> any feats that have it as a pre-req, they're good.
54:42 <Steven> if you are proficient w/ simply weapons you have Weapon Proficiency: <insert simple weapon name> but you dont want to list every weapon you have prof in
54:55 <Steven> so they short cut it
56:50 <Wrothmonk> ooook then.
57:00 <Wrothmonk> point blank shot, rapid shot, rapid reload.
58:01 <Wrothmonk> that better?
00:21 <Wrothmonk> actually… A musket looks better with that set of feats.
00:45 <Steven> yeah
00:55 <Wrothmonk> I can get rapid reload again and reduce a two handed firearm to a move action correct?
00:56 <MekkisScreen> is kapow on?
01:17 <Steven> the only downside to musket master is if you get grappled, you cannot shoot them
01:35 <Steven> yeah, and then paper cart, to reduce it to a free action
02:15 <Steven> once they get the class ability to reload the two handed firearm as a one handed firearm
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04:20 <Wrothmonk> hate net splits
04:32 <Wrothmonk> anyway, does rapid shot account for reloading?
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05:47 <Wrothmonk> Hello?
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06:21 <Wrothmonk> oh right, net split, people are still coming back.
06:34 <Brunius> What do you mean?
06:47 <Wrothmonk> Well it says you can fire again.
06:57 <Wrothmonk> I'm guessing you have to reload to fire again.
07:19 <Brunius> Yeah, you do have to reload
07:28 <Wrothmonk> ok then, pistols it is.
07:33 <Brunius> Which is why you need rapid reload
07:57 <Wrothmonk> Since i'd have to get rapid reload three times before I could use a musket and fire twice.
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08:35 <Steven> alright sleep time, see ya guys
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11:15 <Wrothmonk> ok I'm going to be heading to bed. cya guys.
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12:14 <kapow> i am on now
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27:49 <Brunius> Take that, Goblins!
28:08 <Brunius> Yeah, you only managed to kill 13 people!
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39:18 <MekkisScreen> what
39:43 <Brunius> Dwarf Fortress man
39:52 <Brunius> How long are you in Melbourne?
40:23 <kapow> you where chasing me earlier mekkis?
40:35 <Hydrazine> because chasing things is fun
43:42 <MekkisScreen> yes kapow I was
43:55 <MekkisScreen>  Brunius I'll be here until tuesday
44:01 <kapow> whats up mate?
44:30 <MekkisScreen> kapow: I was considering playing or running PFS on Friday..
45:38 <kapow> next friday?
46:32 <MekkisScreen> yeah
47:05 <kapow> i have no arguements if you want the time slot i'll slide to saturday morning
49:36 <MekkisScreen> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/chars
49:56 <MekkisScreen> I'll see
10:05 <kapow> mekkis chane me over to saturday you take the friday
10:11 <kapow> it'd be nice to play :P
11:32 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
11:53 <MekkisScreen> will you run something that's not First Steps on Saturday?
18:19 <tashphones> :o
18:27 <tashphones> I will actually be here Sunday 
19:34 <MekkisScreen> omg!
23:18 <kapow> nah mekk i am going to do a full play through of steps
23:32 <kapow> I'll be running goblin blood dead the weekend after
23:42 <kapow> seeing played it and no one else here has
23:48 <kapow> your playing it on wednesday?
24:13 <kapow> or are you playing cypher mage?
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42:04 <MekkisScreen> I'm not playing cyphermage
42:37 <MekkisScreen> why are there two BOQs.
42:45 <MekkisScreen> within 200m of each other
42:56 <MekkisScreen> in the middle of Melbourne?
42:58 <kapow> bow's?
43:00 <kapow> boq's?
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45:32 <Brunius> Bank of Queensland
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53:12 <MekkisScreen> yeah
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28:45 <MekkisScreen> Brunius:  do you have any miniatures of flagbearers you're willing to part with?
29:08 <Brunius> I don't have any miniatures of flagbearers at all
29:41 <MekkisScreen> wow.. I thought you did warhammer or something
33:14 <Brunius> Yeah...the scifi version
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35:15 <MekkisScreen> re you saying that 40k minis don't have flags?
35:48 <kapow> very few of them
35:55 <kapow> you'd have to be imperial guard
35:57 <kapow> or orcs
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38:28 <MekkisScreen> kapow: do you have any minis that fit that description?
56:20 <kapow> no mine are all aliens
56:21 <kapow> sorry
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32:33 <Brunius> My guard don't have any flag bearers
13:43 <tashphones> Hay Kapow
14:41 <tashphones> Accept my skype
16:16 <kapow> i was just looking at mIRC to ask you if that was you
16:31 <Hydrazine> I gave her your skype.
16:40 <kapow> bastards!!!!
16:41 <tashphones> :3
16:42 <Hydrazine> Because I figure you wouldn't mind me throwing hot chicks at you.
17:00 <Hydrazine> you owe me at the very least, a fistbump
19:14 <kapow> i was being sarcastic
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37:23 <Avatar> yo
40:53 <ducknuckem> 'lo
49:50 <Hydrazine> yo
50:39 <Avatar> daylight savings is going to suck a bit
50:46 <Brunius> Man, it is
50:50 <tashphones> No! Yolo is wrong! You live every day but only die once. Yodo you yobbos. 
51:08 <Avatar> we have to watch those times in the topic, I don't know if the site schedule automatically adjusts
51:21 <Avatar> tashes has finally gone off the deep end
52:05 <Brunius> Alternatively....
52:10 <Brunius> Carpe Diem
52:53 <Hydrazine> carpe cerevisi!
53:09 <tashphones> Carp the fish!
53:16 <Hydrazine> magikarp splash!
53:29 <kapow> my lvl 5 magikarp has water gun XP
53:31 <Brunius> I wonder if flail does better than splash
53:32 <Hydrazine> I think magikarp is an experiment in teaching children patience.
53:55 <Hydrazine> if I remember right, gyarados with flail will wreck pretty much anything.
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55:37 <Ziria> aaa, someone stop tampering with the wires already
55:50 <Brunius> Hmm?
56:07 <Ziria> that's like the third blackout this morning already
56:52 <Ziria> try doing anything when every 30 minutes or so everything goes black
58:12 <Hydrazine> My internet's been funny too.
58:16 <Hydrazine> We've got vandals abroad, Ziria.
58:27 <Ziria> :)
58:50 <Ziria> well, no exactly a happy thing..
59:16 <Ziria> I'm not losing just internet though, everything including the lights
59:35 <Ziria> pretty damn annoying
00:34 <Hydrazine> heh.
00:44 <Hydrazine> I had one of the best parties of my life because of a blackout
01:23 <Ziria> oh, there really are parties during blackouts?
01:39 <Ziria> I thought it's just something they made up for tv shows
03:21 <Hydrazine> well.
03:30 <Hydrazine> I was in the Navy at the time, in Hawaii.
03:50 <Hydrazine> On my day off. And the power goes out like right after sunset. And stays out.
04:43 <Hydrazine> So I start wandering around, bored. We find the one working emergency light in the lobby of the building. Me and some guys I knew sit down and have a chat.
05:32 <Hydrazine> So we got some cards, everyone went back to their rooms and came back with whatever alcohol we're willing to share.
05:53 <Hydrazine> Next thing you know theres like 50 people and a whole dinner table worth of booze.
06:32 <Hydrazine> And then someone drove over to the surface side of the base, where there was a store with power because its connected to something important, they got some burgers and buns
06:57 <Hydrazine> and we had a cookout and got drunk. I don't remember how they got music playing, but there was music.
07:19 <Brunius> 2400 AA batteries?
07:24 <Brunius> I think that's how many it was
07:32 <Brunius> Oh, actually, you guys are on 120V aren't you
07:36 <Hydrazine> Yeah.
08:01 <Hydrazine> Also, don't hook up a 120V XBox to 240, it lets the smoke out.
08:15 <Brunius> 160 batteries will give you 20 minutes or so of 1W power
15:04 <Hydrazine> huh. you can draw a wand as part of a move action with +1 bab. Learn something new every day.
16:05 <Ziria> it's considered weapon like?
16:43 <Hydrazine> Mhm.
17:15 <Ziria> well, everyone's using spring loaded wrist sheaths around here anyway
17:49 <Hydrazine> Not really, just Mort.
18:30 <Ziria> oh, I didn't you folks on the channel, I meant the people who I play with face to face
18:38 <Hydrazine> Ah, right.
22:24 <Brunius> Yo, I was
22:50 <Ziria> ?
23:02 <Brunius> Using spring loaded wrist sheathes
25:20 <Hydrazine> A flat footed creature does not add dex to CMD.
25:32 <Hydrazine> I need to remember this when I play Hoku.
25:39 <Hydrazine> He usually wins initiative.
45:10 <Avatar> by luck or skill?
48:17 <Hydrazine> By having a ton of dex.
52:01 <Avatar> skill
53:42 <Hydrazine> So theres all these hints that grappling is somehow affected by the size of the participants, in ways other than the direct modifier
53:56 <Hydrazine> But I can't find anything solid to clarify this.
54:22 <Avatar> I do remember reading that
54:30 <Hydrazine> Do you remember where?
55:20 <Avatar> might be a carryover from 3.5
55:41 <Hydrazine> I remember that such a rule existed in 3.5.
56:08 <Hydrazine> I see things that sort of refer to it, but I don't see any actual rule.
59:51 <Avatar> it is from 3.5, and it's not in pathfinder
00:04 <Avatar> it was in the grappling section under special size modifier, clearly noticable
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00:27 <spider21b> hi?
00:36 <Avatar> hi
00:41 <Hydrazine> So it bothers me when I see things that refer to this, Avatar.
00:47 <Hydrazine> For example, the chokehold feat.
00:49 <Avatar> oh wait, it is still there
00:52 <Avatar> it's under combat maneuver
00:53 <spider21b> hey avatar jumping into that sunday game!
00:59 <Avatar> p182 in the SRD pdf
01:06 <Avatar> I'm going to a con
01:40 <Avatar> A creature's CMD is
01:42 <Avatar> determined using the following formula:
01:42 <Avatar> CMD = 10 + Base attack bonus
01:42 <Avatar> + Strength modifier + Dexterity modifier
01:42 <Avatar> + special size modifier
01:42 <Avatar> The special size modifier for a creature's Combat Maneuver
01:42 <Avatar> Defense is as follows: Fine –8, Diminutive –4, Tiny –2,
01:42 <Avatar> Small –1, Medium +0, Large +1, Huge +2, Gargantuan +4,
01:51 <Avatar> Colossal +8.
01:56 <Hydrazine> yeah, thats a modifier.
02:16 <Hydrazine> So if I can beat the dice, is there anything stopping a medium monk from pinning a colossal something?
02:17 <spider21b> are dragons ever colossal?
02:38 <Avatar> nothing stopping you
02:42 <Hydrazine> You have to admit the mental image is amusing.
02:58 <Avatar> are people suggesting you have to be within one size category
03:12 <Hydrazine> No, the books are.
03:17 <Hydrazine> Thats why I'm annoyed.
03:19 <Avatar> where
04:59 <Hydrazine> APG Pg. 78, brutal pugilist, improved savage grapple.
05:16 <Hydrazine> Prefer a quote?
06:16 <Avatar> are you taking that
06:21 <Hydrazine> UC 80, the brief description for chokehold
06:28 <Avatar> you will be a grappling beast
06:43 <Hydrazine> No. But why the hell is it there in the first place? I already have a grappling beast.
06:59 <Avatar> well
08:01 <Hydrazine> I think the tetori's stronger defensively, though I can say a lore warden can become a stronger grappler offensively.
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11:18 <Hydrazine> Yeah, I'm happy with my grappler. I just wish I had some flexibility in the bonus feats instead of getting stuck with stunning pin.
12:56 <Hydrazine> But eh, I've written it off as one of those disagreeable class features you just have to deal with.
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44:59 <Avatar> you secretly want to be rabble
45:06 <Avatar> for realz
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26:46 <Avatar> how to survive a con: don't bring a character that will level up at any time during the con, even at the end of the day
28:19 <Ballig> why does that matter
30:06 <Ziria> you don't have time to level up during con?
33:27 <Brunius> Avatar doesn't have time
33:31 <Brunius> Anyone else does
33:48 <Avatar> it matters because levelling up either during the day between sessions or even at night after 11 hours of pathfinder and a trip there and back is not cool
33:51 <Ballig> Avatar takes minimum a week to level up a character
34:08 <Ziria> probably depends on the person and the con
34:21 <Ballig> two weeks if he makes a bunch of decisions at one end and then second-guesses them at the other
34:21 <Ballig> :P
34:25 <Avatar> and how tolerant you are to fatigue
34:28 <Ziria> I wouldn't have wanted to level up during our con.. slept way too little already
37:06 <kapow> avatar takes a week to decide to lvl the character
37:13 <kapow> then he decideds to do it when the game is meant to start
37:23 <Brunius> Wonder how long Bairaq's level has been going
37:33 <Brunius> 3 months at least
38:26 <kapow> avatar leveled up in a game 2 months ago
38:36 <Avatar> what
38:41 <kapow> weekend gone he had to rush lvl so he could player
38:46 <kapow> your alchemist XP
38:56 <kapow> it leveled to lvl 2 the same time my alchemist did
38:58 <Avatar> I didn't realise I hadn't levelled him yet
39:02 <Avatar> that didn't take long
39:02 <kapow> sure :P
39:04 <kapow> trust avatar
39:06 <Ballig> yeah Avatar is always levelling characters before a game
39:08 <Ballig> I actually said this to him the other day
39:15 <Avatar> when you have 8 characters to look after, get back to me
39:31 <Brunius> Why do you have 8 characters?
39:38 <Brunius> Man, I think I've got 7
39:44 <Avatar> why not
39:48 <Avatar> why do you have 7 characters
40:13 <Ballig> I have a billion
40:17 <Ballig> a BILLION! bwa-ha-ha!
40:19 <Brunius> To explore different concepts and playstyles
40:19 <Avatar> you have like 3
40:36 <Brunius> I've seen 22876-5 at least
40:36 <Avatar> yes I explore different concepts and playstyles
43:40 <Ballig> yeah I have 5 characters I think
51:30 <Avatar> I forgot to buy goddamn printer ink
59:10 <Brunius> Uh oh
06:29 <kapow> KHAN!!!!!!!!
07:18 <tashphones> RIBS!!!!
07:28 <Brunius> POTATO
08:20 <tashphones>  LLAMA!
09:50 <kapow> you cheated tash you said 2
14:06 <tashphones> :/
17:36 <Avatar> shit what happens at 8th level if your int mod increases
17:48 <Brunius> what about it
17:48 <Avatar> do you get a bunch of extra skill points to spend
17:50 <Brunius> Yep
17:59 <Brunius> I believe so
18:01 <Avatar> that's not retroactive though is it
18:49 <Brunius> Fairly sure it is
23:48 <Avatar> I went from 49 ranks at level 7 to 64 ranks at level 8
24:01 <MekkisScreen> ok
24:04 <MekkisScreen> went 2-1
24:15 <MekkisScreen> opened a cyclonic rift
24:33 <MekkisScreen> I won a game by only playinf one spell
25:51 <Avatar> I can't beat that
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26:44 <MekkisScreen> it is retroactive, avatar
27:13 <Avatar> I don't know what to do with all these skill points
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27:37 <MekkisScreen> appraise!
27:42 <MekkisScreen> ride!
27:46 <MekkisScreen> handle animal"!
27:51 <MekkisScreen> disable device!
28:21 <Avatar> picking out all the skills I will never use
29:41 <MekkisScreen> osirion does use disable device
29:56 <Avatar> does being able to fly cancel out ever needing climb or swim
30:29 <MekkisScreen> pretty much
30:41 <MekkisScreen> I'm sure that some corner cases exist
30:48 <Avatar> apart from running out of fly time, are there any exceptions
31:19 <MekkisScreen> antimagic field?
32:04 <Avatar> yeah, that could suck a bit
32:28 <MekkisScreen> we have enough 5th level characters ot there now, right?
32:49 <Avatar> out there or in here
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36:29 <Avatar> mekkis which char are you playing tomorrow morning
36:36 <Avatar> we've got 2 8's and 2 6's
36:38 <Avatar> and you
36:55 <Avatar> gunslinger/fighter 8, wizard/melee 6
37:27 <Avatar> that fighter is tristen's archer actually, not a tank
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50:06 <Avatar> I did not realise you can make AoO's while flatfooted with combat reflexes
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55:42 <Avatar> if you wished you could have more skill points, what would you drop those points into
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12:02 <Avatar> ring of foe focus gives you +2 to AC and saves to any one opponent at a time, 10000gp
13:22 <Graky> are there level 1 premades?
13:31 <Graky> wont have time to make a new char before tomorrow
13:40 <Graky> can i just play with premade then move the xp over to a new level 1?
14:26 <Avatar> yeah
14:46 <Graky> alright sweet
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17:02 <Avatar> I've found rings specific to gunslinger, summoner and oracle
17:04 <Avatar> none for witch yet
18:24 <Mekkis> what's a summoner-specific ring?
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28:24 <Mekkis> Avatar?
29:44 <Avatar> ummm
29:49 <Mekkis> what's a summoner-specific ring?
29:51 <Avatar> hang on I've lost it 
29:54 <Avatar> I didn't have a good look because my summoner is dea
29:54 <Avatar> d
30:02 <Avatar> ring of ectoplasmic invigoration
30:07 <Avatar> yeah that's what I'm talking about man
30:45 <Mekkis> weird
30:56 <Avatar> 12000gp, it turns you into a synthesist
31:34 <Mekkis> I still don't think synthesists are as powerful as straight summoners
33:06 <Mekkis> that ring seems pretty shit
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39:19 <Avatar> yeah you really seem to hate synthesists
39:27 <Avatar> for someone who used to play a synthesist
39:32 <Tashes> Hey! It works! I have no idea why!
39:35 <Tashes> fuck you xchat.
39:52 <Tashes> My housemate wants to knwo whether reincarnated druids are banned?
40:24 <Brunius> Reincarnation is banned, isn't it?
40:53 <Avatar> might get snickers a decoy ring for 12000gp
41:11 <Mekkis> Avatar, I never said I hated synthesists
41:18 <Mekkis> hell, I still DO play a synthesist
41:42 <Mekkis> but I don't think the power level is all it's made out to be
41:43 <Avatar> you know what I mean
42:27 <Avatar> is spending all my money on a decoy ring a bad idea
42:42 <Brunius> What does a decoy ring do?
43:01 <Avatar> you withdraw and it turns you invisible and creates illusory duplicates of you 
43:05 <Avatar> invisible for 3 rounds
43:20 <Mekkis> it's nice
43:32 <Avatar> if you withdraw or fall unconscious
43:33 <Brunius> Is Snickers that vunerable?
43:37 <Mekkis> but I have no idea how it works. It somehow knows who its owner's allies are
43:46 <Avatar> she has no AC
43:49 <Avatar> AC 13 at level 8
43:52 <Avatar> garbage saves
43:55 <Avatar> she relies on not getting hit
44:00 <Mekkis> mistmail?
44:12 <Avatar> what is mistmail
44:34 <Mekkis> some mozzarella armour
44:49 <Brunius> My guess is it's chainmail that acts as mist
45:09 <Mekkis> chain shirt
46:00 <Avatar> no she wears a harimaki
46:00 <Avatar> +1 AC, 0% ASF
46:00 <Avatar> so +3 more with mage armor
46:28 <Mekkis> 20% miss chance is probably better
46:35 <Mekkis> but as I said. It's cheesy
47:02 <Avatar> I actually have no faith in 20% miss chance
47:10 <Avatar> 1 in 5 is pathetic
47:23 <Mekkis> hmmm
47:30 <Mekkis> compared to 16AC?
47:39 <Mekkis> that's about a 5% miss chance
48:13 <Avatar> too close to 0 in 5
48:26 <Mekkis> 4 in 20
48:40 <Mekkis> I'll be arriving with Darkwhite tomorrow
48:43 <Avatar> still too marginal
48:52 <Avatar> snickers already has a cloak that does some sort of 20% miss chance
49:03 <Mekkis> it stacks
49:04 <Avatar> haven't actually used it yet
49:17 <Brunius> I won't be arriving tomorrow
49:17 <Avatar> catching cape
49:28 <Mekkis> that's not good enough, Brunius 
50:33 <Avatar> are you going sunday
54:19 <Avatar> can you buy a scroll of wish in PFS
56:47 <Brunius> Actually, I might be there tomorrow
56:51 <Brunius> No
56:53 <Brunius> Wish is banned
56:56 <Brunius> I will be there pending whether I wake up at 6am
57:05 <Brunius> Man, hope I have all the sheets
57:13 <Avatar> so you will be then
57:13 <Mekkis> Avatar, call Brunius at 5:50
57:16 <Avatar> sign up on warhorn
57:20 <Mekkis> and at 5:55
57:20 <Brunius> because if I don't, they're permanently lost
57:24 <Mekkis> and at 6:00
57:28 <Avatar> you call him
57:29 <Brunius> If you can, that would be good
57:31 <Avatar> they're on the site aren't they
57:33 <Mekkis> I don't have his number
57:39 <Avatar> I'm going to be sleeping
57:47 <Brunius> No chronicle sheets
57:51 <Brunius> my hard drive failed remember
58:03 <Brunius> so if I had any pending printing then they're gone
58:11 <Mekkis> Brunius, don't worry too much about them: your local VC can help :P
58:31 <Brunius> Now you do
58:48 <Mekkis> Avatar, could you please print me http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/defunct_spider.pdf and http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/defunct_leopard.pdf
58:55 <Mekkis> just the first page of each document
59:21 <Avatar> I'm running out of ink yo
59:48 <Mekkis> don't worry then
59:53 <Mekkis> it's just an aid
00:07 <Avatar> put it on your phone
00:24 <Mekkis> nah
00:54 <Mekkis> I've got a printout: it's just a level out-of-date
01:06 <Brunius> Night guys
02:40 <Avatar> could max out my bluff
02:49 <Avatar> 16 bluff?
03:17 <Avatar> what's UMD to cast glibness
03:31 <Brunius> ARgh just remembered
03:36 <Brunius> What's the warhorn link
04:02 <Avatar> warhorn.net/melbourne-pfs/
05:15 <Brunius> Man, I'm on the waitlisted game
05:24 <Brunius> Because it's the only one I can play
06:34 <Avatar> at a con that shouldn't matter too much
06:44 <Avatar> especially if you're a 6th player instead of a 7th 
06:51 <Avatar> darkwhite likes 5 player setups
08:24 <Avatar> I can see me and tristen being pushed to rats of round mountain there
08:37 <Mekkis> fun fun fun
08:52 <Mekkis> I played that with John
08:59 <Avatar> I don't think I want to die
09:01 <Avatar> I'm too young
09:17 <Avatar> was he GMing or playing?
09:50 <Mekkis> playing
09:54 <Mekkis> Flood was GMing
09:59 <Mekkis> it could be worse
10:04 <Mekkis> Goodall could be GMing :)
13:08 <Avatar> acrobatics is in the same boat as climb and swim
13:25 <Avatar> a lot of my skills are redundant and I have a ton of points
13:37 <Mekkis> acrobatics is useful with flight
13:45 <Mekkis> to avoid provoking AoOs
13:46 <Avatar> how
13:57 <Avatar> I never provoke AoOs
14:16 <Mekkis> you do if there's a Large creature adjacent to you
14:26 <Avatar> if I max it out, I have 10 in acrobatics
14:36 <Avatar> that's not enough to get past anything's CMD
15:13 <Avatar> bluff is looking good
15:15 <Mekkis> max out UMD if you haven't already
15:34 <Avatar> I have
15:55 <Avatar> the bluff modifiers are quite punishing
16:01 <Avatar> considering you're already going up against sense motive
16:10 <Mekkis> profession (sailor) does come up from time to time
16:46 <Mekkis> ok
16:46 <Avatar> appraise is probably more useful
16:52 <Avatar> snickers doesn't sail
16:57 <Mekkis> follow this chain of logic:
17:03 <Avatar> if she's on a boat in trouble, she takes off
17:07 <Avatar> you of all people should know that
17:13 <Mekkis> Deceased's companion is an outsider
17:26 <Mekkis> outsiders are "proficient with all simple and martial weapons"
17:59 <Mekkis> does this mean that defunct can Beast Form into a gorilla and wield a glaive?
18:28 <Avatar> I don't know anything beast form
18:31 <Avatar> about*
18:40 <Mekkis> Beast Shape sorry
19:03 <Avatar> still don't know
19:09 <Mekkis> can you share spells with your familiar?
19:16 <Avatar> yeah
19:24 <Mekkis> how small is a familiar?
19:30 <Avatar> I'm not entirely sure what that does
19:39 <Avatar> mine's a bat, diminuitive
19:46 <Mekkis> WOW
20:00 <Avatar> batsy
20:08 <Mekkis> does Snickers know any spells like Alter Self, Beast Form, or similar?
20:19 <Avatar> no
20:20 <Mekkis> !findchar Snickers
20:23 <Avatar> she has a hat of disguise
20:25 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Snickers, number: 261341375( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=261341375 )
21:13 <Mekkis> oh
21:14 <Mekkis> str 1
21:32 <Avatar> what was your plan
22:19 <Mekkis> core rulebook p212
22:20 <Avatar> I need herolab or something to calculate my familiar's stats
22:33 <Avatar> I'm using the SRD, what's on that page
22:45 <Mekkis> when polymorphing something smaller than Small, first adjust the stats as per the table
22:52 <Mekkis> tiny gets +4 str
22:59 <Mekkis> diminuitive gets +6 str
23:17 <Avatar> polymorphing to accomplish what
24:08 <Mekkis> having something that can dish out damage
24:39 <Avatar> snickers doesn't dish out damage
24:45 <Avatar> especially not with her spellbook
29:51 <Mekkis> I hope there will be someone who has a scythe or similar
36:13 <Avatar> shit I still need to pick 2 spells too
42:05 <Mekkis> itzamna has 12000gp to spend, too....
42:23 <Mekkis> suggestions?
44:00 <Mekkis> maybe put merciful on the amulet of mighty fists
44:58 <Avatar> there are a lot of rods that are 12000gp
46:02 <Mekkis> yeah, but Itzamna doesn't really need them
46:08 <Mekkis> Longarm Bracers?
47:34 <Tashes> thats what she said
47:57 <Mekkis> Avatar, you should get the Corset of Dire Witchcraft
49:04 <Avatar> what is that
49:25 <Mekkis> a body slot item
49:27 <Mekkis> a corset!
49:55 <Mekkis> it gives a bonus to AC, and increases the CL of hexes
50:01 <Avatar> 22000gp
50:12 <Avatar> I can't afford that man
50:28 <Mekkis> Mnemonic Vestment seems good
50:47 <Avatar> the corset's actually not even that good
52:03 <Tashes> unlike my corsets, which are amazing
52:05 <Tashes> >.>
52:24 <Mekkis> Tashes, photos!
52:36 <Mekkis> Avatar, Robe of Useful Items!
52:48 <Mekkis> roll well and you make a profit!
53:37 <Mekkis> wow
53:44 <Mekkis> Cackling Hag's Blouse
53:48 <Mekkis> sounds broken
54:00 <Tashes> https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181140_10150918230923785_1303568290_n.jpg
54:45 <Mekkis> that looks painful
55:16 <Tashes> its actually super comfy
55:56 <Avatar> I have never actually used cackle
58:07 <Mekkis> I thought you did
58:45 <Avatar> there's a belt that gives you automatic succeeds on almost all ride checks
58:49 <Avatar> 3200gp
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