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03:28 <Mekkis> So. I'm thinking of building a heavens oracle. Without Awesome Display
05:44 <Steven> good, awesome display is rediculously overpowered
06:26 <Steven> ahhhhh yeah.... tasty
06:31 <Steven> color spraying a 10HD creature is just annoying
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15:13 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ldyp?Pathfinder-Society-Survival-101
15:21 <Mekkis> that blog post worries me
17:09 <Hydrazine> Why?
19:45 <Mekkis> I'm getting the impression that that sort of equipment will start becoming /required/
20:43 <Hydrazine> What more concerns me is, why are characters dying more often? Are they writing scenarios harder? Are people fighting stupid?
21:08 <Mekkis> they are writing scenarios harder in season 4
21:45 <Mekkis> probably because a bunch of people like Steven have been complaining on the boards about how scenarios are "too easy"
21:46 <Steven> yeah table size assumed to be 6
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22:55 <Steven> well... most scenarios are easy enough that character deaths are not a risk save for good rolls by gm
23:20 <Mekkis> that depends on the characters
23:46 <Hydrazine> What about bad rolls by the players?
23:52 <Mekkis> in the Blackburn group in Melbourne, there have been a considerable number of low-level deaths
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25:58 <Hydrazine> Ha. Thats hilarious.
26:38 <Mekkis> what?
26:38 <Hydrazine> So that post used a wand as an example as how a spring-loaded wrist sheath can save the day.
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26:59 <Hydrazine> But wands are weapon-like items, and anyone past level 1 can draw a wand as part of a move.
27:07 <Mekkis> really?
27:11 <Mekkis> citation please?
27:18 <Hydrazine> Its actually the example given. Gimme a sec.
27:23 <Steven> back...
28:43 <Mekkis> Steven, you carry the 100gp silk pillows?
29:45 <Steven> for nap stack?
30:22 <Mekkis> yeah
30:32 <Steven> carry them in my bag of holding w/ my books.
30:39 <Steven> Folnor carries around a Library with him.
30:51 <Mekkis> how many do you carry?
31:04 <Steven> 2
31:12 <Mekkis> fair enough
31:27 <Mekkis> I suppose I'm a pretty big cheapskate when it comes to that
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33:17 <Hydrazine> So CRB 186-187, draw or sheathe a weapon, gives an example of a wand as a weapon-like object, that can be carried in easy reach, like a weapon, and not provoke an AoO for drawing, like a weapon.
33:57 <Steven> well its 200g that can completely change the course of the scenarios for a party if theres been a bad encounter
34:28 <Mekkis> perhaps: have you ever been in a position where 2 hrs of rest is acceptable but 8hrs isn't?
35:13 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, that's interesting
36:07 <Mekkis> do you think the first paragraph with it's stuff about "this action can be applied to weapon-like objects" also applies to the second paragraph?
36:59 <Steven> say a person is diseased with a REALLY nasty disease thats save is 1/day  If you rest over night you might have to make another save
37:12 <Hydrazine> My thoughts on this are mostly based on the tables on pg. 183. There is no seperate consideration for 'weapon-like objects'
37:24 <Steven> but 2 hours is much better
37:40 <Steven> ive used it lots of times now.
37:54 <Hydrazine> But the tables do say that drawing a weapon is a move action that does not provoke, and can be done as part of a move at +1 bab.
39:05 <Hydrazine>  What happens to the pillow when you cast nap stack?
39:15 <Mekkis> it burns up and turns to dust
39:19 <Mekkis> which then disappears
39:45 <Steven> yeah, ive always assumed they are used up in the process of the spell
40:01 <Hydrazine> So its like of like bread, then?
40:20 <Hydrazine> You put bread in the toaster. You push the button. Toast comes out. Where the hell does the bread go?
40:28 <Hydrazine> Toasters=magic
41:15 <Hydrazine> Do you think my reasoning for wands in this manner is unsound or excessive, Mekkis?
42:26 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, no. But I've had people rule the other way sometimes
42:31 <Hydrazine> So.. Shuriken are the only thrown weapon you can make iterative attacks with without quick draw?
42:33 <Mekkis> so I wanted to know why you thought that
42:41 <Hydrazine> Fair enough.
42:45 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz5p2x?While-moving-draw-a-weapon-vs-drawing-a
42:51 <Mekkis> seems like Noone Knows
46:50 <Mekkis> screw it
47:18 <Mekkis> I'll use sovereign glue to attach all my wands to shurikin so I can draw them as free actions!
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48:25 <Hydrazine> screw that, use soveign glue to attach 3 wands to the back of your hand and pull your Wolverine impression.
08:18 <MekkisScreen> fun fun fun
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14:08 <Avatar> Snickers is back in the game
16:15 <Steven> yay
25:36 <N2H4> What about Twix?
25:39 <N2H4> Milky Way?
25:41 <Mekkis> what happened, Avatar?
32:12 <Avatar> at worst I have to spend 3-5 prestige
32:25 <Avatar> might get off with just having been put back on the material plane after all
33:05 <Avatar> the whole idea of the situation wasn't meant to be so harsh apparently
35:56 <Steven> thats nice of the guy.  When i got sent to a different plane w/ prismatic spray, the GM made me spend 5PP for a body recover, two castings of Planar Ally, and was gonna give me 0xp, no gold, and no Prestige for the scenario
36:21 <Avatar> in PFS?
36:25 <Steven> yup
36:40 <Steven> or not planar ally, i mean planar shift
36:49 <Avatar> why would you have to pay for plane shift
36:55 <Avatar> that's covered in the prestige
37:04 <Steven> i know
37:10 <Avatar> and I don't think it's legal for you to survive a scenario and not get prestige or exp
37:17 <Avatar> no gold maybe by a shitty GM
37:24 <Steven> i was typing out another sentance when you asked the question
37:41 <Steven> luckily kyle baird was sittin at the table(5 star GM, cool guy)
37:49 <Avatar> would've contested that
38:04 <Avatar> what a wank
38:20 <Avatar> fair enough if he's inexperienced
38:49 <Steven> and he was like thats not fair, and i was like, yeah totaly not fair, one nat 1 roll costs me 7 prestige, 1 xp, and 15k gold?
39:26 <Steven> and the gm was like well thats how im gonna rule it, and then kyle went and grabbed the event coordinator and they all went and talked
39:45 <Avatar> yeah they would've had a Word
39:47 <Steven> came back, 5PP and a planar shift spell. 
40:01 <Steven> and i was like NO PROBLEM!
41:20 <Mekkis> so Avatar: is Snickers going to learn Plane Shift or Dismissal?
41:36 <Avatar> I don't know
41:45 <Avatar> I would expect she'd be very unlucky to have that happen more than once
42:06 <Avatar> which to be fair, is part of her character concept
42:11 <Steven> some GMs really like sticking it to people when it comes to deaths in pfs.. and i could understand if you get captured by cannibalism they might take a leg or somethin
42:13 <Avatar> so maybe yes I should look at doing that
42:56 <Avatar> I think I was bit too harsh when I was a new GM
43:04 <Avatar> you just don't know any better sometimes
43:09 <Avatar> I don't think most peopple are dicks
43:14 <Steven> i only ever screwed somebody over one time.
43:24 <Steven> was my step brother and he told me he hated playing his paladin
43:48 <Steven> so when he got killed by some cannibles... they ate him before the pathfinders could recover his body
43:54 <Steven> and he didnt have a problem with it
44:10 <Steven> then i made the rest of the party roll will saves to withstand some torture and seeing their friend get eaten
44:16 <Steven> they all made it which is sad
45:12 <Steven> would have made them pay for couseling... 10gp! lol
46:26 <Steven> yeah man, i actually felt kind of bad for the combat, they had good tactics, which was directly countered by the tactics of the NPC
47:18 <Steven> technically i should have TPKed em, but i let one of them go
47:55 <Steven> he had <5hp when he escaped
48:16 <Steven> scythe x4 crit is just nasty w/ whirlwind attack
48:37 <Mekkis> yeah... you killed Olgienar!
48:45 <Mekkis> that was such a dick move
49:07 <Steven> i no not who olgienar is....
49:11 <Avatar> horses shat me
49:13 <Avatar> I don't regret that one
49:23 <Avatar> I would do it again
49:30 <Steven> is that one avatar wrecked when he was a new GM
49:42 <Avatar> I didn't wreck anything
49:46 <Mekkis> Olgienar was Jäsim's beloved companion.
49:59 <Avatar> your beloved companion was helping break the game
50:09 <Brunius>  What
50:13 <Brunius> How did a horse break the game
50:25 <Mekkis> my beloved companion did NOTHING
50:52 <Avatar> apart from the fact I wasn't familiar with mount rules at all, the whole build was optimised to pieces by a high damage horse build
51:02 <Avatar> the other players and the campaign couldn't compare
54:23 * Steven burps quite loudly
54:32 <Avatar> http://news.yahoo.com/man-dies-live-roach-eating-contest-fla-215822212.html
55:02 <Brunius> <obligatory "avatar always posts shit links" comment>
55:44 <Steven> people sure are dumb
56:02 <Avatar> some sure are
57:05 <N2H4> ha!
57:09 <N2H4> That was on the news earlier.
59:16 <N2H4> Thats not that far away actually.
00:33 <Avatar> pretty funny
00:37 <Avatar> not that he died
13:08 <Mekkis> hmmm
13:41 <Mekkis> are there any spells with wands as components
13:48 <Mekkis> there are spells with potions as components
14:22 <Mekkis> so if you put your potions in your spell component pouch, you can retrieve them as a free action!
15:45 <Steven> means its  not super bad
16:33 <Avatar> yeah, if you want to throw them in the air to dissipate instead of drinking them
20:58 <Ballig> trust kapow
22:18 <kapow> trust kapow
22:49 <Mekkis> "When $NPC starts casting a spell, (spellcraft_success && can_counterspell) ? counterspell : hit $NPC with Phantasmal_killer"
23:05 <Ballig> is Avatar scheduling games for 8am his time
23:35 <Avatar> yeah for 9am QLD time I thought
23:43 <Avatar> gotta run
23:44 <Ballig> other way around
23:53 <Ballig> gotta go an hour later, not an hour earlier
25:15 <Tashes> Oh, kapow's got that thing that's going around?
25:22 <Tashes> sinus shit and coughing and losing yoru voice?
25:36 <Ballig> holy crap that sounds serious
25:47 <Ballig> you should NOT be releasing fecal matter from your sinuses
26:26 <Tashes> ...
26:37 <Tashes> ballig
26:38 <Tashes> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Leopard-Pants-Shorts-High-Waist-Tights-Leggings-Stretchy-Leather-SZ-M-/230861508627?pt=AU_Womens_Clothing_2&hash=item35c06b1013#ht_1161wt_1055
26:42 <Tashes> these are for you.
26:49 <Ballig> I want them so much
27:05 <Ballig> I would wear those to work
27:17 <Ballig> casual Friday here I come!
28:17 <Tashes> I dare you. 
28:19 <Tashes> doubledare.
28:46 <Ballig> working for the federal government will never be this fabulous again
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36:15 <Brunius> Man, now I have to camp outside Ballig's work every friday
37:47 <Ballig> I would applaud your tenacity
38:09 <Brunius> I will say it's a protest
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39:02 <Ballig> just the fact that you would commute to Canberra once a week would make it worthwhile wearing those shorts for you, Brunius
39:19 <Brunius> It's only, what, 12 hours on a bus
40:19 <Ballig> "Yeppp, I had to drop out of high school. They wouldn't let me take every Thursday and Friday off." "Why did you need to take every Thursday and Friday off?" "To stalk a guy in Canberra, of course! God, you're thick."
41:00 <Brunius> I'm off school in 6 weeks
41:14 <Brunius> Then I don't have to show up until like february
41:27 <Ballig> can get a good 6 weeks worth of stalkin' in, eh?
55:14 <MekkisScreen> so
55:25 <MekkisScreen> looks like someone on the plane wanted off
55:35 <MekkisScreen> so her bags need to be removed.
55:54 <MekkisScreen> And I'm stuck in melbourne for a bit longer :(
57:38 <Avatar> count your blessings
58:05 <MekkisScreen> why?
58:37 <MekkisScreen> I need to deal with all these idiots who've failed their will save vs DST
59:48 <MekkisScreen> looks like someone found out her boyfriend was cheating on her
02:49 <MekkisScreen> I'll see what I can do to diebot
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07:58 <Avatar> ok back for more!
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30:07 <Avatar> kapow
30:13 <Avatar> you do plan on running among the living don't you
41:44 <kapow> eventually yes
41:51 <kapow> gotta go to lodge
41:58 <kapow> any questions leave in pm so i can reply
43:34 <Avatar> what is lodge
43:59 <Avatar> is that like the grand lodge
44:12 <Avatar> are you a real pathfinder
44:29 <Avatar> did you shift to another plane like a certain someone I know
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21:31 <Mekkis> Avatar, like Snickers?
38:47 <Avatar> yes like snickers
42:03 <Mekkis> or are you talking Waldo and friends
42:04 <Mekkis> :)
42:15 <Avatar> snickers
42:19 <Avatar> waldo has ceased to exist
42:36 <Mekkis> oh, he's still around
42:59 <Avatar> don't know about that
43:05 <Mekkis> I do
43:33 <Avatar> I'm really really really keen on finding out what the hell happened to my poor witch
44:06 <Mekkis>        Death Gaze (Su): Death, range
44:07 <Mekkis>   30 feet, Fortitude DC 15 negates.
44:07 <Mekkis> Humanoids who die from this attack
44:07 <Mekkis> are transformed into bodaks 24 hours
44:07 <Mekkis> later. The save DC is Charisma-based.
44:23 <Mekkis> that's what happened to Waldo :)
54:21 <Mekkis> well
54:25 <Mekkis> Darkwhite doesn't know
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12:46 <Storycrafter> Heyas
13:03 <Storycrafter> Looking for advice
13:19 <Storycrafter> I'm thinking about running a campaign (3.5/PF) via IRC
13:42 <Storycrafter> While I'm not a stranger to IRC, I am a stranger to running bots and such
14:09 <Storycrafter> So I'd like to record the sessions, and I suspect a logging bot wouldn't be hard to run, and I already know what dicebot I'd like to use.
14:14 <Storycrafter> Am I missing anything?
17:21 <Ballig> what IRC client do you use?
17:44 <Ballig> I know that if you  use mIRC you can just set it to log the channel you're running the game in
17:46 <Ballig> that's what we do
18:16 <Storycrafter> AH, even easier
18:31 <Storycrafter> Any other aids to enhance gameplay?
18:37 <Storycrafter> I haven't had a chance to play PFS with you guys yet
18:54 <Ballig> you will absolutely need some kind of virtual tabletop to handle combat
19:03 <Storycrafter> You think so?
19:12 <Storycrafter> I was very much hoping to avoid it with description
19:29 <Ballig> yeah, that's going to get incredibly messy
19:41 <Storycrafter> I'm afraid of that
19:48 <Storycrafter> You guys use Combat Assistant?
20:03 <Ballig> yeah, we custom built it for playing over IRC
20:20 <Ballig> basically we wanted something small and light weight that could be used in conjunction with IRC/dice bots
20:31 <Ballig> as opposed to most other virtual tabletops that try and do everything and end up being quite bloated
20:36 <Ballig> but it's all about personal preference
21:15 <Storycrafter> Sure, got that
21:30 <Storycrafter> Interestingly, Chrome is trying to insuate that the CA download is malware
21:44 <Ballig> :O
22:08 <Ballig> probably because it doesn't recognise the developer
22:11 <Avatar> he has to find out doesn't he
23:49 <Storycrafter> Heh, it says "hasn't been downloaded many times"...bleh
24:11 <Storycrafter> Anywho, I see CA.  Looks simple enough.  Might use that then
24:36 <Storycrafter> Was also thinking about using a map on a table with real minis and broadcast via camera
24:48 <Storycrafter> but maybe better to just stay 100% virtual
25:01 <Mekkis> why would he?
25:29 <Avatar> he's the VC
25:41 <Ballig> yeah that could work if you have the setup for it
25:49 <Avatar> at the very least he's got to tell me to check in with someone else
26:27 <Avatar> or are you implying he is a douche
28:04 <Storycrafter> Now to figure out where to host...
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35:32 <Mekkis> no
35:54 <Mekkis> I'm suggesting that he might have more pressing things to think about than the fate of your character
37:11 <Steven> wait... your character got turned into a bodak?
39:18 <Mekkis> Avatar's did, yes
39:44 <Mekkis> like reporting the sessions
39:50 <Mekkis> and organising new sessions
41:59 <Steven> i dont remember what scenario you run into bodaks on.
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43:12 <Mekkis> kapow, have you signed up for Wednesday yet?
43:22 <Mekkis> http://warhorn.net/brisbane-pfs/schedule/day.php?date=2012-10-10
45:35 <Steven> sup sup....
45:45 <Steven> i napped.... now im only rediculously tired
45:59 <Steven> gotcha
46:53 <Steven> so he turned into a bodak?
46:55 <Steven> was it a TPK?
47:56 <Mekkis> nope
48:22 <Mekkis> he somehow missed the numerous hints that Death Ward would be a good idea
48:39 <Mekkis> and instead tried to turn undead about 8 bodaks
48:52 <Mekkis> so they turned and looked at him
51:44 <Steven> nasty
52:36 <Mekkis> yeah
52:42 <Mekkis> turn undead doesn't work at high levels
52:47 <Mekkis> (hey, it doesn't work at low levels)
53:26 <Steven> yeah undead channel resist that every undead creature has... well at least thats the way it seems
54:54 <Avatar> nice
55:24 <Avatar> Storycrafter: just click listen and you are hosting
55:40 <Avatar> you only need an ip address if you're connecting
55:44 <Storycrafter> For the CA, sure
55:56 <Storycrafter> I meant as far as IRC channel/net
56:04 <Avatar> connect here
01:08 <Storycrafter> Could do that.  I have no loyalties elsewhere, although there are 1 or 2 nets that seem to cater to roleplaying...
03:37 <Steven> sup sup sup
03:42 <Steven> new guy?
06:16 <Avatar> you're a new guy
06:51 <Mekkis> they were underwater, in a part of a plane that was mild-negative-energy aligned
06:53 <Storycrafter> Yes, a FNG
06:59 <Mekkis> so 1d6 damage per round
07:01 <Storycrafter> Born at night, but not last night, though
08:22 <Steven> hey new guy
09:39 <Storycrafter> Hey, Steven.
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42:32 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20
42:33 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20: [1d20=11] 11
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48:39 <kapow> fuck man not drinking alcohol in 6 months is fucked
48:50 <kapow> went out and had a couple of drinks
48:54 <kapow> 6-7 beers n i feel fucked :/
49:03 <Steven> while having a sore throat?
49:51 <Steven> you are aware alcohol leeches resources from your system and lowers the immune system right?
49:52 <Mekkis> signed up for Wednesday?
50:01 <Mekkis> I suggest you bring another wizard to the table
51:14 <kapow> ah but you see steven even though i still can't talk i can't feel a fucking thing atm
51:20 <kapow> it's fantastic
51:47 <kapow> I couldn't talk at lodge :/ and there wasn't much else to do
52:11 <kapow> so sat doing nodded and shook my head and had a few beers and it's not acidic nor is it dairy
05:51 <Avatar> mekkis
06:50 <Mekkis> Avatar
08:37 <Steven> kapow
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12:38 <kapow> Ballig
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15:45 <Storycrafter> Later, y'all.
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16:30 <Tashes> Brunius: 
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23:45 <Avatar> when do you want that game set up for
24:13 <Mekkis> 10am
24:21 <Mekkis> or 0:00 UTC
24:22 <Avatar> EDT or EST
24:40 <Mekkis> AEST
26:23 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 13th 9am (first steps 3,kapow) / Sun 14th 11am (tier 3-7,mekkis) / Sat 20th 9am (first steps 2,kapow) || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au 
26:23 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Oct  8 22:33:15 2012
26:23 <***> Buffer Playback...
26:23 <***> Playback Complete.
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30:11 <Mekkis> could you put the AEDT (UTC+11) bit in red?
30:24 <Mekkis> and bold
30:26 <Mekkis> and underlined
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37:43 <Mekkis> Die, bot
38:44 <Wrothmonk> did you just? LOL
39:20 <Avatar> invites are sent out, double check that I got the right time
39:46 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Acid splash
39:49 <diebot> Mekkis, ACID SPLASH conjuration (creation[acid]) sorcerer/wizard 0, summoner 0, inquisitor 0, magus 0 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:no
39:49 <diebot> You fire a small orb of acid at the target. You must succeed on a ranged touch attack to hit your target. The orb deals 1d3 points of acid damage. This acid disappears after 1 round.
39:50 <Mekkis> seems about right
40:24 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Reincarnation
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42:21 <Steven> hey.... im back
42:38 <Steven> think i might restart though client is laggy
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48:38 <Steven> so hows 10am treating you austs?
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29:58 <Steven> bwahahahahah
30:27 * Mekkis looks at Steven sternly
31:11 <Steven> backstory: Bill made meatloaf bout 2 weeks back.  I mentioned how i make a pretty good meatloaf.  He says my meatloaf would never be as good as his.  I silently except this and my grandma tells bill not to be an ass.
31:28 <Steven> Last week, i make my meatloaf cause grandma wants to try mine
32:57 <Steven> We sit down to eat, bill eats like 4 slices of it, tells me its passable but he didnt learn how to make his from a recipe, i silently accept this critisim and grandma tells bill not to be an ass
33:37 <Steven> 10 minutes ago, bill calls me up(he is out of town visiting his sister)  asks me for my meatloaf recipe
33:57 <Steven> I tell him, Sorry man, i dont have a recipe for a passable meatloaf... grandma says NOTHING 
33:59 <Steven> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
34:41 <Mekkis> I don't follow a recipe when I make meatloaf
35:23 <Steven> me either. i just know how to make mine
35:35 <Mekkis> what meat do you use?
35:46 <Steven> hamburger and sausage
35:50 <Mekkis> ah
37:48 <Mekkis> I've found a 50/50 pork/beef is really good
39:11 <Mekkis> and adding shiitake mushrooms does wonders
45:22 <Steven> yeah his had carrots which were too crunchy, blue cheese, and was stuffed with provolone cheese... 
45:29 <Steven> and just straight hamburger
45:32 <Steven> and bellpepper
45:36 <Mekkis> wow
45:43 <Mekkis> that's a lot of stuff to put in it
45:52 <Steven> none of the flavors worked well with the others
46:11 <Mekkis> I think I just used onion, egg, boiled egg and the mushrooms
47:14 <Steven> i usually use, onion, bell pepper, garlic, egg, some rice, dash of worsh sauce, and a dash of spices.
47:41 <Steven> nothing too fancy, but the flavors all go well together
47:47 <Mekkis> do you put hardboiled egg in it?
47:57 <Steven> nope.
48:11 <Mekkis> you should try that
48:30 <Steven> I dont really like hard boiled eggs
48:38 <Mekkis> fair enough then
49:09 <Steven> i think its from when i was a kid, and one summer for an entire week all we had to eat were eggs
49:42 <Steven> and we had hard boiled eggs, egg salad sandwiches, and fried egg sandwiches.
49:49 <Steven> needless to say i like none of those things now.
49:51 <Mekkis> ah
50:30 <Steven> i do love scrambled eggs though... brb
50:35 <Steven> imma make me some of them
06:40 <Steven> ahhhhh yeah.... tasty
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03:14 <Mekkis> So. I'm thinking of building a heavens oracle. Without Awesome Display
05:30 <Steven> good, awesome display is rediculously overpowered
06:17 <Steven> color spraying a 10HD creature is just annoying
14:59 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ldyp?Pathfinder-Society-Survival-101
15:07 <Mekkis> that blog post worries me
16:55 <Hydrazine> Why?
19:31 <Mekkis> I'm getting the impression that that sort of equipment will start becoming /required/
20:29 <Hydrazine> What more concerns me is, why are characters dying more often? Are they writing scenarios harder? Are people fighting stupid?
20:53 <Mekkis> they are writing scenarios harder in season 4
21:30 <Mekkis> probably because a bunch of people like Steven have been complaining on the boards about how scenarios are "too easy"
21:32 <Steven> yeah table size assumed to be 6
22:41 <Steven> well... most scenarios are easy enough that character deaths are not a risk save for good rolls by gm
23:06 <Mekkis> that depends on the characters
23:32 <Hydrazine> What about bad rolls by the players?
23:38 <Mekkis> in the Blackburn group in Melbourne, there have been a considerable number of low-level deaths
25:45 <Hydrazine> Ha. Thats hilarious.
26:24 <Mekkis> what?
26:24 <Hydrazine> So that post used a wand as an example as how a spring-loaded wrist sheath can save the day.
26:45 <Hydrazine> But wands are weapon-like items, and anyone past level 1 can draw a wand as part of a move.
26:53 <Mekkis> really?
26:57 <Mekkis> citation please?
27:04 <Hydrazine> Its actually the example given. Gimme a sec.
27:09 <Steven> back...
28:28 <Mekkis> Steven, you carry the 100gp silk pillows?
29:32 <Steven> for nap stack?
30:08 <Mekkis> yeah
30:19 <Steven> carry them in my bag of holding w/ my books.
30:25 <Steven> Folnor carries around a Library with him.
30:37 <Mekkis> how many do you carry?
30:50 <Steven> 2
30:58 <Mekkis> fair enough
31:13 <Mekkis> I suppose I'm a pretty big cheapskate when it comes to that
33:03 <Hydrazine> So CRB 186-187, draw or sheathe a weapon, gives an example of a wand as a weapon-like object, that can be carried in easy reach, like a weapon, and not provoke an AoO for drawing, like a weapon.
33:43 <Steven> well its 200g that can completely change the course of the scenarios for a party if theres been a bad encounter
34:14 <Mekkis> perhaps: have you ever been in a position where 2 hrs of rest is acceptable but 8hrs isn't?
34:59 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, that's interesting
35:53 <Mekkis> do you think the first paragraph with it's stuff about "this action can be applied to weapon-like objects" also applies to the second paragraph?
36:45 <Steven> say a person is diseased with a REALLY nasty disease thats save is 1/day  If you rest over night you might have to make another save
36:58 <Hydrazine> My thoughts on this are mostly based on the tables on pg. 183. There is no seperate consideration for 'weapon-like objects'
37:10 <Steven> but 2 hours is much better
37:26 <Steven> ive used it lots of times now.
37:41 <Hydrazine> But the tables do say that drawing a weapon is a move action that does not provoke, and can be done as part of a move at +1 bab.
38:52 <Hydrazine>  What happens to the pillow when you cast nap stack?
39:01 <Mekkis> it burns up and turns to dust
39:04 <Mekkis> which then disappears
39:31 <Steven> yeah, ive always assumed they are used up in the process of the spell
39:47 <Hydrazine> So its like of like bread, then?
40:06 <Hydrazine> You put bread in the toaster. You push the button. Toast comes out. Where the hell does the bread go?
40:14 <Hydrazine> Toasters=magic
41:01 <Hydrazine> Do you think my reasoning for wands in this manner is unsound or excessive, Mekkis?
42:12 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, no. But I've had people rule the other way sometimes
42:18 <Hydrazine> So.. Shuriken are the only thrown weapon you can make iterative attacks with without quick draw?
42:19 <Mekkis> so I wanted to know why you thought that
42:27 <Hydrazine> Fair enough.
42:30 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz5p2x?While-moving-draw-a-weapon-vs-drawing-a
42:36 <Mekkis> seems like Noone Knows
46:35 <Mekkis> screw it
47:04 <Mekkis> I'll use sovereign glue to attach all my wands to shurikin so I can draw them as free actions!
48:12 <Hydrazine> screw that, use soveign glue to attach 3 wands to the back of your hand and pull your Wolverine impression.
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08:04 <MekkisScreen> fun fun fun
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12:59 <Storycrafter> Heyas
13:16 <Storycrafter> Looking for advice
13:33 <Storycrafter> I'm thinking about running a campaign (3.5/PF) via IRC
13:47 Avatar` is now known as Avatar
13:54 <Avatar> Snickers is back in the game
13:55 <Storycrafter> While I'm not a stranger to IRC, I am a stranger to running bots and such
14:23 <Storycrafter> So I'd like to record the sessions, and I suspect a logging bot wouldn't be hard to run, and I already know what dicebot I'd like to use.
14:27 <Storycrafter> Am I missing anything?
16:01 <Steven> yay
17:35 <Ballig> what IRC client do you use?
17:57 <Ballig> I know that if you  use mIRC you can just set it to log the channel you're running the game in
17:59 <Ballig> that's what we do
18:30 <Storycrafter> AH, even easier
18:44 <Storycrafter> Any other aids to enhance gameplay?
18:50 <Storycrafter> I haven't had a chance to play PFS with you guys yet
19:07 <Ballig> you will absolutely need some kind of virtual tabletop to handle combat
19:16 <Storycrafter> You think so?
19:25 <Storycrafter> I was very much hoping to avoid it with description
19:42 <Ballig> yeah, that's going to get incredibly messy
19:54 <Storycrafter> I'm afraid of that
20:01 <Storycrafter> You guys use Combat Assistant?
20:16 <Ballig> yeah, we custom built it for playing over IRC
20:34 <Ballig> basically we wanted something small and light weight that could be used in conjunction with IRC/dice bots
20:44 <Ballig> as opposed to most other virtual tabletops that try and do everything and end up being quite bloated
20:50 <Ballig> but it's all about personal preference
21:28 <Storycrafter> Sure, got that
21:44 <Storycrafter> Interestingly, Chrome is trying to insuate that the CA download is malware
21:57 <Ballig> :O
22:21 <Ballig> probably because it doesn't recognise the developer
24:03 <Storycrafter> Heh, it says "hasn't been downloaded many times"...bleh
24:25 <Storycrafter> Anywho, I see CA.  Looks simple enough.  Might use that then
24:50 <Storycrafter> Was also thinking about using a map on a table with real minis and broadcast via camera
25:02 <Storycrafter> but maybe better to just stay 100% virtual
25:22 <N2H4> What about Twix?
25:25 <N2H4> Milky Way?
25:27 <Mekkis> what happened, Avatar?
25:54 <Ballig> yeah that could work if you have the setup for it
28:17 <Storycrafter> Now to figure out where to host...
31:58 <Avatar> at worst I have to spend 3-5 prestige
32:11 <Avatar> might get off with just having been put back on the material plane after all
32:51 <Avatar> the whole idea of the situation wasn't meant to be so harsh apparently
35:42 <Steven> thats nice of the guy.  When i got sent to a different plane w/ prismatic spray, the GM made me spend 5PP for a body recover, two castings of Planar Ally, and was gonna give me 0xp, no gold, and no Prestige for the scenario
36:07 <Avatar> in PFS?
36:11 <Steven> yup
36:27 <Steven> or not planar ally, i mean planar shift
36:35 <Avatar> why would you have to pay for plane shift
36:41 <Avatar> that's covered in the prestige
36:50 <Steven> i know
36:56 <Avatar> and I don't think it's legal for you to survive a scenario and not get prestige or exp
37:03 <Avatar> no gold maybe by a shitty GM
37:10 <Steven> i was typing out another sentance when you asked the question
37:27 <Steven> luckily kyle baird was sittin at the table(5 star GM, cool guy)
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37:35 <Avatar> would've contested that
37:50 <Avatar> what a wank
38:06 <Avatar> fair enough if he's inexperienced
38:35 <Steven> and he was like thats not fair, and i was like, yeah totaly not fair, one nat 1 roll costs me 7 prestige, 1 xp, and 15k gold?
39:13 <Steven> and the gm was like well thats how im gonna rule it, and then kyle went and grabbed the event coordinator and they all went and talked
39:31 <Avatar> yeah they would've had a Word
39:33 <Steven> came back, 5PP and a planar shift spell. 
39:47 <Steven> and i was like NO PROBLEM!
41:05 <Mekkis> so Avatar: is Snickers going to learn Plane Shift or Dismissal?
41:22 <Avatar> I don't know
41:31 <Avatar> I would expect she'd be very unlucky to have that happen more than once
41:52 <Avatar> which to be fair, is part of her character concept
41:57 <Steven> some GMs really like sticking it to people when it comes to deaths in pfs.. and i could understand if you get captured by cannibalism they might take a leg or somethin
41:59 <Avatar> so maybe yes I should look at doing that
42:42 <Avatar> I think I was bit too harsh when I was a new GM
42:50 <Avatar> you just don't know any better sometimes
42:55 <Avatar> I don't think most peopple are dicks
43:00 <Steven> i only ever screwed somebody over one time.
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43:10 <Steven> was my step brother and he told me he hated playing his paladin
43:34 <Steven> so when he got killed by some cannibles... they ate him before the pathfinders could recover his body
43:40 <Steven> and he didnt have a problem with it
43:56 <Steven> then i made the rest of the party roll will saves to withstand some torture and seeing their friend get eaten
44:02 <Steven> they all made it which is sad
44:58 <Steven> would have made them pay for couseling... 10gp! lol
45:48 <Steven> sup sup....
45:58 <Steven> i napped.... now im only rediculously tired
46:12 <Steven> yeah man, i actually felt kind of bad for the combat, they had good tactics, which was directly countered by the tactics of the NPC
47:04 <Steven> technically i should have TPKed em, but i let one of them go
47:41 <Steven> he had <5hp when he escaped
48:02 <Steven> scythe x4 crit is just nasty w/ whirlwind attack
48:23 <Mekkis> yeah... you killed Olgienar!
48:31 <Mekkis> that was such a dick move
48:54 <Steven> i no not who olgienar is....
48:57 <Avatar> horses shat me
48:59 <Avatar> I don't regret that one
49:09 <Avatar> I would do it again
49:16 <Steven> is that one avatar wrecked when he was a new GM
49:28 <Avatar> I didn't wreck anything
49:32 <Mekkis> Olgienar was Jäsim's beloved companion.
49:45 <Avatar> your beloved companion was helping break the game
49:55 <Brunius>  What
49:59 <Brunius> How did a horse break the game
50:11 <Mekkis> my beloved companion did NOTHING
50:38 <Avatar> apart from the fact I wasn't familiar with mount rules at all, the whole build was optimised to pieces by a high damage horse build
50:49 <Avatar> the other players and the campaign couldn't compare
54:10 * Steven burps quite loudly
54:18 <Avatar> http://news.yahoo.com/man-dies-live-roach-eating-contest-fla-215822212.html
54:48 <Brunius> <obligatory "avatar always posts shit links" comment>
55:07 <Avatar> nice
55:30 <Steven> people sure are dumb
55:37 <Avatar> Storycrafter: just click listen and you are hosting
55:48 <Avatar> some sure are
55:54 <Avatar> you only need an ip address if you're connecting
55:57 <Storycrafter> For the CA, sure
56:09 <Storycrafter> I meant as far as IRC channel/net
56:17 <Avatar> connect here
56:51 <N2H4> ha!
56:55 <N2H4> That was on the news earlier.
59:02 <N2H4> Thats not that far away actually.
00:19 <Avatar> pretty funny
00:23 <Avatar> not that he died
01:21 <Storycrafter> Could do that.  I have no loyalties elsewhere, although there are 1 or 2 nets that seem to cater to roleplaying...
03:51 <Steven> sup sup sup
03:55 <Steven> new guy?
06:29 <Avatar> you're a new guy
07:06 <Storycrafter> Yes, a FNG
07:14 <Storycrafter> Born at night, but not last night, though
08:35 <Steven> hey new guy
09:52 <Storycrafter> Hey, Steven.
12:53 <Mekkis> hmmm
13:27 <Mekkis> are there any spells with wands as components
13:34 <Mekkis> there are spells with potions as components
14:08 <Mekkis> so if you put your potions in your spell component pouch, you can retrieve them as a free action!
16:19 <Avatar> yeah, if you want to throw them in the air to dissipate instead of drinking them
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22:34 <Mekkis> "When $NPC starts casting a spell, (spellcraft_success && can_counterspell) ? counterspell : hit $NPC with Phantasmal_killer"
15:58 <Storycrafter> Later, y'all.
42:34 <Steven> hey.... im back
42:51 <Steven> think i might restart though client is laggy
48:51 <Steven> so hows 10am treating you austs?
16:34 <Steven> methinks imma drink me some soda
49:27 <Steven> i think i chipped a tooth
10:58 <MekkisScreen> I made my save vs dst
11:16 <MekkisScreen> now I need to deal with the vast, unwashed masses who didn't
52:43 <MekkisScreen> anyone have experience making 3d maps?
53:42 <Steven> .... elaborate
55:07 <MekkisScreen> like the ones that people occasionally post on the paizo forums
59:13 <Steven> i havent seen them
59:46 <MekkisScreen> http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz6dnt?324-The-Golden-Serpent-in-the-3rd-Dimension
00:33 <Steven> okay got ya
00:42 <Steven> That shouldnt really be too hard
01:03 <MekkisScreen> I want to do something like that for In Wrath's Shadow
04:21 <Steven> im trying to remember wht the paper is called
04:41 <Steven> its a glossy finish with like foamy stuff in between the layers of paper
06:12 <Steven> its like poster board
06:16 <Steven> but... its not
07:35 <Steven> anyways you would stack those up with spacers(to denote that there is an altitude difference)'
11:39 <Steven> foam paper boards
11:42 <Steven> i knew it woul come to me
23:29 <MekkisScreen> mmm
23:50 <MekkisScreen> I need a way to hide secret doors
24:13 <Steven> cut that specific piece of paper off
24:19 <Steven> if able
24:22 <MekkisScreen> did I tell you how cool /commune/ is?
24:32 <Steven> its a freakin amazing spell
25:13 <MekkisScreen> especially when you get it as an SLA
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27:00 <Steven> sla?
27:20 <MekkisScreen> when you call an  eidolon with summon eidolon, cal you still use standard action summons?
27:30 <MekkisScreen> spell-like ability
28:18 <Steven> not without the archtype i think.
28:36 <MekkisScreen> ah
30:40 <Steven> anyways, i think you could do secret things with an additional overlay
33:53 <MekkisScreen> ooks like tomorrow we're playing a session with three wizards and a paladin
34:42 <Steven> where at?
35:20 <MekkisScreen> Spring hill
36:08 <MekkisScreen> I like the whole Detect Evil = fall over due to the strength of the aura
36:57 <Steven> so its at an actual table game.
37:09 <MekkisScreen> of course
37:25 <Steven> you GMing?
37:28 <Mekkis> Die, bot
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37:48 <MekkisScreen> no. playing one of the wizards
38:30 <Wrothmonk> did you just? LOL
38:53 <Steven> sounds like entirely too many wizards
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39:31 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Acid splash
39:34 <MekkisScreen> sounds like a good spell sharing exercise
39:35 <diebot> Mekkis, ACID SPLASH conjuration (creation[acid]) sorcerer/wizard 0, summoner 0, inquisitor 0, magus 0 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:no
39:35 <diebot> You fire a small orb of acid at the target. You must succeed on a ranged touch attack to hit your target. The orb deals 1d3 points of acid damage. This acid disappears after 1 round.
40:06 <Steven> spell casters love folnor
40:09 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Reincarnation
40:16 <Steven> if they run out of spells, he gives them some lol
40:36 <MekkisScreen> I meant the spellbooks
40:39 <Steven> and he always prepares Nap Stack
41:06 <MekkisScreen> what's that?
41:12 <Steven> 8hrs worth of rest in 2hrs time
41:20 <MekkisScreen> Deceased has the massacre stick...
41:40 <Steven> doesnt help divine casters, but arcane love it
42:04 <MekkisScreen> what's the stick called?
44:47 <MekkisScreen> taking wizard prestige classes makes getting spells hard
45:01 <MekkisScreen> spent about 4000gp on spells
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47:38 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Polymorph Any Object
47:43 <diebot> Mekkis, error with query
47:59 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Polymorph An%
48:09 <diebot> Mekkis, error with query
48:14 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Polymorp%
48:18 <diebot> Mekkis, error with query
48:21 <Mekkis> !spelldesc polymorp%
48:25 <diebot> Mekkis, error with query
50:23 <MekkisScreen> "you Will help me, or I'll kill everyone who happens to be in this direction
50:25 <Mekkis> !spelldesc polymorp%
50:30 <diebot> Mekkis, error with query
54:30 <Mekkis> die, bot
54:34 <Mekkis> Die, bot
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56:07 <Mekkis> !spelldesc polymorp%
56:09 <diebot> Mekkis, POLYMORPH transmutation (polymorph[]) sorcerer/wizard 5, alchemist 5 1 standard action Range: touch Duration: 1 min/level Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)
56:09 <diebot> This spell transforms a willing creature into an animal, humanoid or elemental of your choosing; the spell has no effect on unwilling creatures, nor can the creature being targeted by this spell influence the new form assumed (apart from conveying its wishes, if any, to you verbally).  If you use this spell to cause the target to take on the form
56:09 <diebot> of an animal or magical beast, the spell functions as beast shape II. If the form is that of an elemental, the spell functions as elemental body I. If the form is that of a humanoid, the spell functions as alter self.  The subject may choose to resume its normal form as a full-round action; doing so ends the spell for that subject.
56:17 <Mekkis> !spelldesc polymorph an%
56:18 <diebot> Mekkis, POLYMORPH ANY OBJECT transmutation (polymorph[]) sorcerer/wizard 8 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Duration: see text Save: Fortitude negates (object); see text SR:yes (object)
56:20 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/polymorph_any_object.html
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03:59 <diebot> Deceased, 1d20+5 initiative saved as @init
04:12 <Deceased> @init
04:15 <diebot> Deceased, initiative: [1d20=1] 6
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