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00:46 <GreenGuy33> I like to give my characters querks that give the players something to tease eachother with in good natured humor. like if im an elf bard i might givve him or her an embarrasing nick-name like " cheerleader" or something.
05:43 <Wrothmonk> depends on the players.
05:48 <Wrothmonk> I personally love it.
06:20 <Wrothmonk> but, like all humor, it depends on everyone's different senses of humor.
06:46 <GreenGuy33> you know like at some point in their carrier they got branded withthe nickname and it stuck despite their best efforts.
08:04 <Mekkis> Ulzef, now I am around
16:34 <Ulzef> kewl 
16:52 <Ulzef> was wondering if you are coming to con now
20:20 <Mekkis> still making a decision
20:30 <Ulzef> cool cool
20:31 <Mekkis> has anything changed down south
21:02 <Ulzef> also whenish you thinking of going through our training for WotW game
21:13 <Ulzef> not that i am aware of
21:27 <Mekkis> probably next week. I'm just going over each of your sheets
21:50 <Ulzef> do you want a pdf of mine so you can go through it better?
22:32 <Mekkis> that would be great
22:51 <Ulzef> you on skype?
23:04 <Mekkis>  yep, but email is probably better
23:15 <Ulzef> kk will email after this game
23:20 <Mekkis> ok
23:37 <Ulzef> can give you class progression i am looking at as well
23:43 <Mekkis> great
32:17 <Wrothmonk> do alternate favored class bonuses for paladins apply to anti-palladins? 
32:44 <Mekkis> maybe
37:26 <Wrothmonk> how much would a half orc stick out in WotW?
37:52 <Mekkis> a bit, but not that much
48:57 <GreenGuy33> anti-palladins always confused me. i mean from what i understand your just a evil palladin right? so why isnt it just called like " dark palladin" or something? 
49:00 <Ulzef> what email you want me to send it to
52:16 <GreenGuy33> especially since then you could make batman refrences in game.
55:22 adrik ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
56:00 <adrik> So, I believe it's like 2am there, so I'm guessing everyone is idle.
56:09 <Wrothmonk> 9 am here
56:18 <adrik> Really?
56:22 <adrik> Damn
56:25 <Wrothmonk> were not all Australians 
56:26 <Wrothmonk> :P
56:29 <adrik> lol
57:00 <adrik> My apologies
59:21 <adrik> Well, let's put it this way: I'm unlikely to find someone to help me with my website account problem now. Or am I wrong about that too?
59:40 <Wrothmonk> I can probably help you out, whats the problem?
01:33 <adrik> Well, I registered back in July of last year but I can't remember the username and password that I used (I think I probably used adrik as the username) and the email account I used to sign up has been deleted so I can't use the forgot password thing
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01:59 <Wrothmonk> Why not make another account?
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02:24 <adrik> I guess I can do that. I had my characters uploaded but that can be redone.
02:57 <Wrothmonk> I'm not an admin at the website so I can't help you recover it unfortunately.
03:25 <adrik> Thanks anyway :)
03:32 <adrik> I'll just make a new one
03:33 <Steven> what up
04:25 <adrik> not much. you?
04:31 <Wrothmonk> I'm working on an anti-pally for WotW.
04:35 <Steven> i just woke up.
04:40 <Wrothmonk> Finally got a name.
04:47 <Steven> twinky!
05:02 <Wrothmonk> Dagrik. 
05:44 <Wrothmonk> half orc
05:54 <Steven> cool
06:19 <Steven> im eatin the chili
11:07 <Wrothmonk> are alternate racial traits allowed in WotW?
11:08 <adrik> Heh, I can't create my characters because they already exist under the other login. Okay. I'll have to come back when it's daytime down under.
18:56 <Steven> i can probably help you.
19:14 <adrik> Really? That would be cool if you can
19:27 <Steven> whats your characters name?
19:35 <adrik> Zahir
19:46 <Steven> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=468
20:06 <Steven> whats wrong with this character?
21:01 <adrik> Nothing. The problem is that I can't remember the password to the account it's in and the email address I used to register that account no longer exists. So I made a new account and couldn't enter a character with that name because that character exists on the old account
21:20 <Steven> hmmm... that will need avatar to fix.
21:42 <Steven> Avatar are you floating in a near concious state?
22:10 <adrik> I'll send him an IM on Skype. He's sending me my old chronicle sheet and maybe he'll show mercy and help me out when he's doing that
24:49 <adrik> Woohoo the password just came to me!
24:56 <adrik> So that's a big old nevermind then
31:39 <adrik> Holy crap, wrothmonk; that's a long session tonight
32:51 <Wrothmonk> generally they are 6 hours long.
33:46 <adrik> Really? You can't tell it's been a while since I've played at all. Duh.
34:08 <GreenGuy33> i like it. gives me something to do.
37:29 <Ulzef> Mekkis: Sent email to your summoners account
38:41 <adrik> So do we still need to do text sheets or is uploading a pdf sufficient?
41:55 <Ulzef> most gm's like you to have the sheets on the site so they dont have to ask for all the details
43:47 <adrik> Gotcha
53:26 <GreenGuy33> can some one look over my character sheet and help me figure out if i left anything out that needs to be there? characters name is Nessimar
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11:14 <Wrothmonk> Whats the command to allow pas without a registered nick?
11:18 <Wrothmonk> pms*
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27:26 <GreenGuy33> wb
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57:53 <Hydrazine> The Japanese made a robot that always wins at rock paper scissors.
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09:03 <Steven> winning at rockpaper scissors is all about how fast you are at changing your answer and reading the muscle flexing to determine what the other people are going to do.
53:53 <Hydrazine> Quite.
55:39 <Hydrazine> The robot uses high speed cameras and fancy analysis software to recognize the shape of the hand as you throw, and mechanical fingers quick enough to beat you to it.
13:07 <Steven> i am seriously bored.
13:17 <Steven> I am going to go play some video games.
13:31 <Steven> preferably something made before 2000
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06:01 <Avatar> yo sup
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10:31 <Avatar> wrothmonk
10:38 <Wrothmonk> Hello.
10:52 <Avatar> if you have any ideas about kililng us today well you can forget about it
11:28 <Wrothmonk> Why is that?
13:06 <Avatar> I dunno
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17:15 <Wrothmonk> oh I'm having problems with pming diebot, its throwing up the stuff about me needing a registered nick and I can't remember how to fix that.
18:25 <Avatar> type /nickserv register <password> <email>
18:35 <Avatar> to identify, it's /nickserv identify <password>
18:47 <Wrothmonk> ty
19:37 <Avatar> and /mode Wrothmonk -R
19:50 <Avatar> also lets people message you if they're unidentified
20:18 <Avatar> or the other way around, I can never remember
20:21 Wrothmonk is now known as wrothmonk
22:08 <wrothmonk> it doesn't seem to be working, but I know I got my nick registered.
22:21 <Avatar> what's not working
22:30 <wrothmonk> the identify I think
22:49 <Avatar> check your status window
22:58 <Avatar> it should have [+wixr] or something similar
23:06 <Avatar> the r means you're identified
23:15 <Avatar> and you don't want there to be an R in there
23:44 <Avatar> can you find it
23:49 <wrothmonk> trying to.
23:58 <Avatar> I don't know what colloquy looks like
26:06 <Avatar> your status window will say -NickOP- Password accepted -- You are now identified as wrothmonk.
26:10 <Avatar> if it worked
26:27 <wrothmonk> yeah that didn't work.
27:05 <Avatar> did you do something like /nickserv register adsfsdf [email protected]
27:16 <Avatar> no angle brackets
27:21 <GreenGuy33> rebuilt my character. still not sure ive got things done right but did my best. Renamed my character Jaanisari since i got a little teasing about having an Aasimar named Nessimar before. lol
27:26 <wrothmonk> yeah I thought for sure I was registered.
27:49 <Avatar> I think Nessimar is funny
27:59 <wrothmonk> I got no response.
28:20 <wrothmonk> Um… is nickserv supposed to be a bot on the channel? 
29:15 <wrothmonk> Can I take a look at your char sheet Green, it would be good to sort out any problems before the game.
29:17 <Avatar> no, it's a service 
29:19 <GreenGuy33> how do you register a nick?
29:30 <Hydrazine> I can take a look and see if anything obviously wrong sticks out.
29:39 <Avatar> type /nickserv register adsfsdf [email protected]
29:49 <Avatar> but with a proper password and your proper email
29:52 <Avatar> don't use a fake email
29:56 <wrothmonk> did that, no response at all
31:01 <Avatar> type /nickserv help 
31:05 <Avatar> and see if it brings up anything
31:10 <wrothmonk> nothing
32:25 <GreenGuy33> anyone that wants to look at my sheet can. i dont care. :) 
32:33 <wrothmonk> kinda need the link.
32:46 <wrothmonk> or the name you have it under.
33:14 <GreenGuy33> the name its under is Jaanisari.
33:20 <Avatar> !find jaanisari
33:20 <dicebot> Avatar, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=688
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34:03 <GreenGuy33> sorry, i didnt know i needed to post the link. ill remember that for the future
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34:21 <Avatar> how is he easily mistaken for an attractive teen female that looks like that
34:35 <Hydrazine> Hes really pretty?
34:41 <GreenGuy33> yeah.
34:42 <wrothmonk> ac of 10...
35:00 <wrothmonk> rich parents is a banned trait
35:21 <GreenGuy33> it is? i didnt see that ill go change it
35:37 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources
35:59 <wrothmonk> yeah you should neither have two horses or a basic caravan at first level :P
36:28 <wrothmonk> You will probably want a separate sheet for your eidolon.
36:50 <wrothmonk> Why haramaki?
36:59 <wrothmonk> summoners don't dang spell failure in light armor
37:03 <wrothmonk> don't take*
37:39 <GreenGuy33> they do in certain light armors acording to the armor chart
37:46 <Hydrazine> I counted a 21 point buy.
37:56 <wrothmonk> according to the class they dont.
38:15 <wrothmonk> APG right?
38:23 <GreenGuy33> oh. well then i need to fix that too. lol
38:28 <Avatar> yeah it is 21
39:13 <wrothmonk> "A summoner can cast summoner spells while wearing light armor without incurring the normal arcane spell failure chance."
41:04 <wrothmonk> Your going to have major problems attacking anyone with acid splash.
41:39 <Hydrazine> With 8 dex, you're looking at a base initiative of -1.
42:26 <wrothmonk> I'd take some points out of int and put them into dex.
42:33 <Hydrazine> Also, how did you get to 2+1 spells per day? I'm seeing 1 base and 1 bonus from cha.
43:05 <wrothmonk> yeah it should be 1 base.
44:14 <GreenGuy33> i was reflecting totals.
44:23 <Steven> suuuuuuuuup
44:32 <Hydrazine> 2+1 reflects 3, which is wrong for the correct total of 2.
44:56 <Steven> sup.
44:57 <Hydrazine> That or your syntax is just misleading. Either way.
44:58 <Steven> im back
45:01 <Hydrazine> Hello Steven.
45:15 <GreenGuy33> still trying to figure out where i ended up with an extra abilty point buy...
45:20 <Hydrazine> I found it.
45:33 <Hydrazine> Your numbers on the left and right side of constitution are different.
45:54 <Hydrazine> Str:  8  -1 Base:10 -2        HP:          9/9
45:55 <Hydrazine> Dex:  8  -1 Base:10 -2        Initiative:  0
45:55 <Hydrazine> Con: 12  +1 Base:10 -2  
45:58 <Hydrazine> see?
46:24 <Hydrazine> 10 -2 would be 8, not 12.
46:33 <wrothmonk> you dumped con?!?!??!
46:35 <Hydrazine> And would put you at a 19 point buy.
46:59 <Hydrazine> It seems more like he considered it, changed his mind, but didn't completely correct the point buy to reflect his wisdom.
47:11 <wrothmonk> Ah
47:52 <Hydrazine> the TAB on weapons section is short for Total Attack Bonus, which is all the attack modifiers for that particular weapon. For you, it looks like 0base-1str for -1 TAB.
48:20 <wrothmonk> I wouldn't go near anyone if I were you :P
48:33 <GreenGuy33> what i was trying to do was before race bonus's were added in have strength:8 Dex: 8 Con: 12 Int: 16 Wis: 13 Cha: 16 
48:46 <GreenGuy33> was to have *
48:54 <wrothmonk> when you have more ac when your flat footed than you do normally...
49:26 <Hydrazine> I know, GreenGuy33. But that adds up to a 21 point buy.
49:34 <Avatar> buying a 16 costs 10 points
49:43 <Avatar> buying 8 brings back 2 points
49:47 <Avatar> 13 costs 3 points
49:50 <Avatar> 12 costs 2 points
50:06 <Hydrazine> Hm. Easy fix is to drop wisdom by 1?
50:12 <Avatar> so you've got -2 + -2 + 2 + 10 + 3 + 10 = 21
50:27 <GreenGuy33>  yeah ill drop wis.
50:52 <wrothmonk> Green, do you want to hit anything with acid splash?
51:02 <Hydrazine> Also, you have one more skill point to spend.
51:15 <Hydrazine> You've got 4 spent and 2+int(3) total.
51:38 <Hydrazine> I hate finding only problems in a character sheet. I like being able to find atleast one good thing too.
52:01 <Avatar> what is considered a good thing
53:20 <Hydrazine> something that upon correction makes the character stronger.
53:36 <Hydrazine> Commonly its a missing favored class bonus or something.
53:43 <Hydrazine> Today its an extra skill point.
53:43 <Steven> you still have to add in your negative dex modifier while flat footed.
54:19 <Avatar> I remember reading something about that
54:37 <Steven> while flat footed you lose your dexterity bonus to AC
54:45 <Steven> you still incure your Dexterity Penalty
56:08 <Avatar> yeah
56:34 <Avatar> GreenGuy33: you can rebuild your character throughout level 1 if you don't like it after this game
56:48 <wrothmonk> As long as you survive past this game :P
56:54 <Avatar> oh we'll survive alright
57:04 <Avatar> just sayin'
57:39 <Avatar> I think I'm bringing my alchemist
57:51 <Avatar> or possibly my paladin
58:48 <Steven> I'll watch as you all die!
59:08 <Avatar> you think you'll watch
59:30 <wrothmonk> Steven, I'm running this game since you coerced me into running one, its only fair that you play it.
59:36 <wrothmonk> >:D
59:43 <Avatar> it's only fair steven
00:32 <wrothmonk> well it would appear I can pm diebot now
00:44 <Avatar> he's already played it
00:46 <Steven> I felt since there were already 5 people in it, i wouldnt play and instead answer any questions you might have without being influenced by the decisions outcome.
01:12 <wrothmonk> if there are open slots, I'd like you to play.
01:25 <Steven> but i will gladly sit down with one of my many rediculous characters.
01:27 <Hydrazine> GreenGuy33: Your Eidolon's AC is off; bipeds start with +2 natural armor.
01:44 <Steven> greenguy have you played PFS before?
01:51 <GreenGuy33> nope
01:59 <wrothmonk> why is your character -2 then?
02:30 <GreenGuy33> cause to change the character name i had to upload a new sheet
02:40 <Hydrazine> And it looks like you didn't quite add in all the other base modifiers. For example, +con to fort save.
02:48 <wrothmonk> it should still be -1, you can change the name on paizo
03:07 <wrothmonk> you are registered on paizo right?
03:15 <GreenGuy33> yep
03:30 <Steven> wow... everyone here has dissapointed me by not advising this new guy properly.  Summoners are exceptionally complex and require more than just the core rulebook which you would very likely want to buy first before dropping lots of money on the rest of the books.
03:55 <Steven> I would have advised you to stick to one of the core classes.
04:03 <Hydrazine> Why does the Eidolon have 7 skills?
04:31 <GreenGuy33> ive got pathfinder core pathfinder advanced player guide and the race guide and the equipment  book
05:08 <wrothmonk> you need the bestiary.
05:15 <sir_stiletto> summoner is going to be my second character.  after I kill off Rysh again
05:18 <GreenGuy33> ive got that too
05:21 <Avatar> what do you need the bestiary for
05:33 <wrothmonk> stat tables for the summoned creatures?
05:44 <Steven> Probably should have started with one of the core classes before moving on to the advanced classes for PFS.  Its an entire different entity than regular pathfinder.
05:46 <wrothmonk> though I suppose you can use d20
05:47 <Avatar> you can be a summoner and only ever summon your eidolon
06:05 <wrothmonk> true, however I have found myself that it doesn't always work in practice.
06:34 <Avatar> who's your summoner
06:48 <Steven> Alright, well... im going to go find a character to play.
06:58 <wrothmonk> Eryne, http://pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=655
07:00 <Hydrazine> two claw attacks at +3, 1d6+5... not bad.
07:01 <GreenGuy33> almost want to give one of you my password and have you fix my character sheet for me though then i wont learn as easily
07:20 <Hydrazine> Well, its IRC, so you can scroll up to see all the comments.
07:45 <wrothmonk> you need to pick out s trait to replace rich parents and figure out your new equipment before I'll let you play.
08:14 <GreenGuy33> yeah its just tha there are so many coments that when i try to fix something 4 more things are mentioned by the time i tab back to here
08:17 <GreenGuy33> lol
08:43 <Hydrazine> A combat trained horse that you can't really ride seems silly.
08:48 <Steven> its why i would have advised you to make a core class.
09:02 <Steven> so much easier to make.
09:25 <Hydrazine> hey, you learned all sorts of stuff though. Like that you might as well get a chain shirt and kiss that 10 ac goodbye.
09:33 <wrothmonk> ^this
09:44 <GreenGuy33> well the horse was for the caravan but since i cant actually have the caravan i dont need the horses.
10:04 <wrothmonk> yes… and the fact that you can't afford a horse had nothing to do with it/
10:06 <Avatar> GreenGuy33: save what you've got so far
10:14 <wrothmonk> :P
10:20 <Avatar> on your sheet
10:40 <Hydrazine> I would suggest documenting the eidolon's attacks the same way you do yours, with TAB and damage bonuses and everything.
11:05 <wrothmonk> I would suggest putting your eidolon on a separate sheet.
11:15 <Hydrazine> Just because I hate it when players slow down the game by not having all their numbers organized.
11:36 <GreenGuy33> wroth why dont you drop me from the game. i doubt ill be ready by the timethe games schedualed
11:49 <Avatar> there's 2 hours
11:51 <wrothmonk> you got two hours.
11:51 <Avatar> heaps of time
11:55 <wrothmonk> ^this
12:11 <Avatar> save your sheet with the fixes you've done so far
12:27 <Hydrazine> So the peanut gallery can keep track of progress?
12:36 <Avatar> so we can slow down
15:19 <Steven> alright.  So.
17:00 <Steven> whats everyone want me to play?
17:14 <Avatar> don't know what everyone else is bringing yet
17:23 <Steven> or hell i could make up a whole new character... and then go evil... throw all the new people for a loop!
17:46 <wrothmonk> and then I would crush your character with a cloud and call it divine intervention.
18:06 <Steven> sounds good to me.
18:11 <wrothmonk> XD
18:15 <sir_stiletto> hey, if you get to be evil then so do I.  it's so much easier to go with my natural tendencies
18:31 <Steven> hey you can become evil as well.
18:40 <wrothmonk> and again, cloud crush
18:42 <Steven> you just cant play that character in pathfinder society anymore is all.
20:19 <Avatar> I like the idea of an ability called cloud crush
20:32 <wrothmonk> fluffy cloud kill.
20:33 <Avatar> it's a bit of an oxymoron
20:35 <wrothmonk> :P
20:43 <Steven> I CRUSH YOU WITH FLUFFY BITS OF SKY!
21:08 <sir_stiletto> hey, I work in the cloud and it crushes me all the time
21:21 <wrothmonk> I'd like to think all divine intervention has some form of oxymoron.
21:52 <wrothmonk> the question is, should I make the cloud fist shaped or lightning shaped.
22:00 <Hydrazine> anvil.
22:05 <wrothmonk> That works!
22:07 <Hydrazine> Or possibly piano.
22:09 <Steven> or bad GM shaped?
22:41 <Steven> i have to make a character for some gm credit i have.
23:37 <GreenGuy33> saved the abilty score changes. i hate math so bad. i think i have 4 points remaining from the point buy system.
24:04 <Steven> http://tools.digitalightbulb.com/pbcalc.html
24:58 <sir_stiletto> hare you ever played Toon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toon_(role-playing_game)?  a piano is a completely reasonable weapon
25:45 <wrothmonk> squirt gun of holy water?
25:57 <Steven> i could make my wisdom based sorc!
26:15 <Avatar> GreenGuy33: -2 + -2 + 2 + 7 + 2 + 10 = 17
26:19 <wrothmonk> and that would work how?
26:35 <Hydrazine> Theres a bloodline that uses wisdom.
26:37 <wrothmonk> or is the point that it doesn't?
26:39 <Steven> bloodline.
26:40 <wrothmonk> Ah
26:51 <Hydrazine> Then you could take a few levels of cleric.
26:52 <Steven> its a crossblooded Celestial/Sylvan
26:54 <Hydrazine> And cast all the things.
28:00 <Steven> need to pick feats, skills, and spells
28:18 <sir_stiletto> celstial/sylvan?  holy druid?
28:53 <Steven> i pretty much view it as an Arcane Druid.
29:11 <Steven> its min maxed as fuck though... so thats why i havent actually played it.
29:32 <sir_stiletto> min maxed?
29:42 <Steven> 7/13/16/14/20/6
29:54 <sir_stiletto> wow
30:14 <Steven> saves of 4/1/5 w/ +3 vs poisons, spells, and spell like abilities.
30:17 <Steven> 9hp
30:35 <Steven> has an AC
31:02 <Avatar> what's the int and wis bloodlines
31:04 <Avatar> I was looking for those
31:40 <Steven> Celestial, and Sage 
32:26 <Avatar> celestial doesn't mention it?
33:36 <Steven> oh sorry empyreal
33:59 <Steven> its wild blooded.
40:35 <Steven> hmmmm.... dwarven Arcane Druid
40:59 <Steven> maybe... Aasimar Bow Smiter.
41:15 <wrothmonk> Hey, how do you make the thick colored lines in CA? I've only figured out how to change the color of the grid lines.
44:33 <Steven> i dunno, avatar uses more things on CA than i do
45:06 <Mekkis> use the line tool
45:10 <Mekkis> right click on it
45:40 <wrothmonk> ah
45:43 <wrothmonk> Thanks
50:04 <Steven> think ill make my arcane druid
51:55 <Steven> i dont undestand why they give you kn nature when they give you an animal companion, you would think they would give you handle animal
55:51 <Steven> handling my animal might be a little tricky lol
56:56 <Avatar> how do eidolons get class skills
58:26 <Mekkis> on creation, you specify them
58:35 <Avatar> how many do you get
58:40 <Mekkis> don't remember
58:48 <Mekkis> it's been a while since I made an eidolon
00:33 <wrothmonk> you get to specify 2
00:48 <wrothmonk> the others depends on the base form
00:55 <wrothmonk> I think.
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01:08 <Avatar> yeah just seen that it lists them
01:16 <Avatar> Mekkis: killing the colours every time you reset it
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02:38 <Steven> .....
02:40 <Steven> right...
02:48 <Steven> so, need to pick a feat for my sorc.
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05:41 <Steven> thinking....
05:47 <Steven> !feat steel soul
05:52 <diebot> Steven, STEEL SOUL []Prereq:  Dwarf, hardy racial trait.  You are especially resistant to magic.
05:53 <diebot> Benefit:  You receive a +4 racial bonus on saving throws against spells and spell-like abilities. This replaces the normal bonus from the dwarf's hardy racial trait.
05:53 <diebot> Normal:  Dwarves normally receive a +2 racial bonus on saving throws against spells and spell-like abilities. Source: APG
08:38 <Hydrazine> Why have I not seen this before?
08:38 <Hydrazine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uV1SbEuzFU
13:46 <Steven> oh thats nothing, you should see the [redacted] its amazing.
14:05 <Hydrazine> I just like that it shoots a big ass wrench.
16:57 <Steven> yeah thats pretty cool
21:37 <Avatar> have another look: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=688
21:46 <Avatar> aside from the second trait and the armor, what else is amiss
26:05 <Hydrazine> summon monster 3+cha.
26:08 <Hydrazine> so 6, not 7.
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26:47 <Hydrazine> Initiative should be +2.
27:42 <Hydrazine> Eidolon's AC and saves.
28:29 <Hydrazine> If you can do summon monster as a SLA, why bother with the actual spell?
29:39 <wrothmonk> Can somebody test the devca connection for me? I'm using build 103, ip 67.184.108.80
30:20 <Hydrazine> DC for spells is 10+SL+cha, so 14 for a level 1.
30:49 <Hydrazine> got it, Wroth.
31:00 <wrothmonk> Looks like your connected on my end
31:06 <wrothmonk> What are you seeing?
31:07 <Hydrazine> Even see some brown shapes and a big green square.
31:31 <Hydrazine> Ah, theres a map now. Mostly covered.
31:43 <wrothmonk> Thats what you should be seeing.
31:46 <wrothmonk> Thanks
32:06 <Hydrazine> No prob.
32:15 <wrothmonk> Who just connected?
32:19 <Avatar> me
32:22 <wrothmonk> Ah
32:36 <Avatar> works
32:55 <sir_stiletto> thanks… I just wanted to find out if there were any issues before the game was supposed to start.
34:05 <wrothmonk> I'm on the same network as sir stiletto and he's the one managing the router.
34:25 <Avatar> does augment summoning work with the summoner's SLA?
34:48 <wrothmonk> Yes, I'm fairly certain it does.
35:39 <Hydrazine> Lose a language with the decrease of int.
36:32 <Avatar> yeah it does
36:47 <Hydrazine> I think thats all the fixes I got.
37:49 <Hydrazine> I missed one. Carry limits are wrong for 9 str.
38:11 <Hydrazine> Should be <30, 31-60, 61-90
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39:27 <wrothmonk> the eidolon must resemble a pack mule.
39:28 <wrothmonk> :P
39:35 <wrothmonk> Hello
39:35 <Hydrazine> Its a biped
40:52 <Hydrazine> G'day.
43:47 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, the reason Itzamna takes Summon Monster as spells is because it can be used while the eidolon's out
44:06 <Mekkis> and there's a big advantage to a charging, smiting celestial rhino
44:50 <Hydrazine> Ah, okay. Fair enough.
45:09 <Mekkis> also: Itzamna doesn't like taking spells with saves
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51:14 <wrothmonk> so who is here?
51:38 <GreenGuy33> there all fixed thanks to avatar babysitting me lol
52:17 <GreenGuy33> im here.
53:22 <Hydrazine> Save DCs for your spells, and eidolon AC.
53:49 <Hydrazine> And you might want to mention that with power attack, that thing's hitting at 1d6+5 per claw.
54:13 <Hydrazine> Missing 5 damage on every attack is like kicking yourself in the ass.
54:22 <Mekkis> and your party members
54:36 <wrothmonk> and doing 5 damage to everyone except the enemy.
55:00 <sir_stiletto> yo
55:25 <wrothmonk> Gelith, Oaktree, Avatar?
55:25 <Hydrazine> The eidolon has +2 natural armor and dex, so it should be 14 regular AC, 12 touch and 12 flat.
56:57 Avatar gives channel operator status to wrothmonk
57:09 <Avatar> I'm here
57:19 <Avatar> have we worked out what classes everyone is bringing in
57:24 <GreenGuy33> wait, wheres the +2 armor comeing from i dont see that in the table
57:40 <Avatar> dex
57:43 <wrothmonk> I know green is bringing in a summoner, sir_stiletto a rogue.
57:49 <Hydrazine> biped, +2 natural armor.
58:27 <sir_stiletto> sir_stiletto is a Two-Weapon Warrior Knife Fighter.
59:30 <Avatar> I'm probably bringing in the alchemist 
59:36 <GreenGuy33> ok ajusted the eidelons AC and the DC for the spells
59:37 <Avatar> oh wait, do we need a healer
59:44 <wrothmonk> Can I get the links to your character sheets pmed to me once you have decided?
59:47 <Steven> im bringin in a Crossblooded sorc.
59:58 <Avatar> have you played this scenario before steven
00:19 <Steven> indeed i have.  I wont be solving any puzzles.
01:01 <Avatar> oh wait alchemists can heal
01:02 <GreenGuy33> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=688
01:25 <GreenGuy33>  couoldnt finde the PM option. im not use to IRC
01:33 <wrothmonk> Thats fine
01:40 <wrothmonk> Nobody look at his faction :P
01:42 <Avatar> just double click a nickname in the list to the right -------->
01:44 <Hydrazine> Summon monster 6 times per day, not 7. Pretty minor, but then I think you're done, awesome!
02:18 <wrothmonk> sending faction missions once I get them figured.
03:01 <Avatar> locked in the alchemist
03:12 <Steven> levels?
03:18 <Avatar> 2
03:38 <GreenGuy33> fixed. thanks for all you guys help. it was overwhelming at first but im glad i had folks helping me rather then critisizing in an unconstructive manner
04:00 <Hydrazine> Hey, its what we do.
04:07 <Hydrazine> No problem man.
04:11 <Avatar> group hug
04:40 <wrothmonk> green are you receiving your faction mission?
04:45 <GreenGuy33> < sends a summoned fuzzy to hug all them>
04:56 <GreenGuy33> nope.
05:00 <wrothmonk> hrm...
05:09 <wrothmonk> File transfer doesn't seem to be working
05:10 <Avatar> greenguy go to your options > DCC
05:24 <Avatar> options > DCC > Ignore
05:33 <Avatar> then change the method to disabled and untick the tickbox
05:46 <wrothmonk> Avatar is it working for you?
05:57 <Avatar> no, not even a request
06:04 <wrothmonk> hrm...
06:09 <Avatar> just send over skype if that's easier
06:19 <wrothmonk> how about now?
06:20 <Avatar> oh wait
06:25 <Avatar> yeah it's popped up
06:30 <wrothmonk> Ah good
06:31 <Avatar> just waiting to receive it
06:36 <Avatar> should be immediate
06:48 <wrothmonk> hrm...
07:01 <wrothmonk> Green can I get your Skype username please
07:07 <GreenGuy33> ok changed it to auto accept..
07:21 <GreenGuy33> claassenc1980
07:22 <wrothmonk> I'm going to try over Skype once i get the call set up
08:56 <wrothmonk> Alright sent contact request, have I got the right guy?
10:42 <GreenGuy33> yep you got me
11:26 Avatar gives voice to Avatar GreenGuy33 sir_stiletto Steven
11:30 * Avatar removes channel operator status from Avatar
11:35 Avatar is now known as Sparky
11:40 sir_stiletto is now known as Rysh
12:47 <Hydrazine> Have a good one folks.
13:45 Steven is now known as Shalbrock
14:09 <wrothmonk> steven can I get your character sheet and Skype username please
15:25 <Sparky> tried to add you steven
15:29 <Sparky> are any of the rest of you jokers playing
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16:29 <Shalbrock> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=690
16:51 <wrothmonk> I don't see anything on that sheet
17:14 <Shalbrock> well i uploaded it bout..... ten minutes ago, ill try resubmitting it
17:37 <wrothmonk> can I get the link to the plain text?
17:48 <Sparky> !find shalbrock
17:48 <dicebot> Sparky, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=690
19:12 <Shalbrock> its like this, "Balls!" my character said balls
19:30 <Shalbrock> if i do /me scratches his balls, that means i scratched my balls
19:41 <wrothmonk> I still need your Skype username steven
19:46 <Shalbrock> im in the chat.
20:02 <Shalbrock> i just dont talk much unless im GMing.
20:09 * GreenGuy33 eats random folks souls.
20:10 <Shalbrock> now you gotta tell me.
20:33 <Sparky> change to your character name with /nick Jannisari
20:38 <Shalbrock> change your name, use /nick jannisari
20:41 <Shalbrock> oh sparky beat me.
20:45 GreenGuy33 is now known as Jannisari
20:46 <Sparky> too slow brother
20:51 <Shalbrock> its what i get for playing while migraining.
21:08 <Shalbrock> btw wroth... if you kill me you waste a first steps.  you dirty bastard!
21:18 <Shalbrock> yeah i find em real annoying to read.
21:51 <Shalbrock> Silver crusade=androan, Shadow lodge=Chelaxian
22:29 <Shalbrock> YOU CAN!
22:36 <Shalbrock> you can be grand lodge and do no faction missions
22:54 <Shalbrock> which will screw you out of prestige.
23:40 <Shalbrock> other than i want to be a summoner, what is the goal of your character
24:35 <Jannisari> exploration.
24:59 <Shalbrock> typically you open your mouth, move your tongue in precise syncronization with expulsion of air from lungs and working of vocal cords to form words.
25:20 <Sparky> maybe lantern lodge
25:30 <Shalbrock> i dont suggest latern lodge.
25:33 <Shalbrock> it sucks
25:34 <Jannisari> ok ill switch later.
25:47 <Sparky> I don't like lantern lodge, but if your goal is exploration, it sort of fits
26:04 <Shalbrock> im just going to go check his character sheet.
26:56 <Shalbrock> Oh-Sear-i-ran... said real fast.
27:23 <Shalbrock> I suggest Sczarni
27:28 <Shalbrock> they are the mob of pathfinder.
27:47 <Shalbrock> no no no you got it all wrong.
28:29 <Shalbrock> I'm not doing a faction.
28:35 <Shalbrock> I have already played this.
28:46 <Shalbrock> So there is no point.
29:08 <wrothmonk> Anyone else around wanting to play?
29:10 <wrothmonk> last call
29:14 <Shalbrock> in the immortal words of my father... Fuck em.
29:21 <Sparky> hydrazine, ballig
29:31 <Shalbrock> no just his words
29:39 <Shalbrock> hes a pain in the ass.
29:54 * Shalbrock feels it IS a nice walk in the woods.
30:28 * Jannisari its a -relitively- nice walk.
30:46 <Shalbrock> im making a change to my character, I am being a female dwarf... since ive never see one before.
31:51 <wrothmonk> In Absalom, the Venture-Captains claimed it would be a nice walk in the woods, a pleasant change of pace from the bustle of the city. Obviously they forgot about the brambles, boulders, and biting insects of the Verduran Forest, which turned the jouney into an arduous three-day scramble of detours, torn clothes, and near falls. Fortunately, Venture-Captain Dennel Hamshanks made a firm impression before the expedition left Absalom.
31:52 <wrothmonk> The air grew still as Hamshanks rolled into a meeting room deep inside the Pathfinder Lodge in Absalom, his jowls flowing and his enormous axe clanking against his thigh. The man’s black eyes scanned the room. “You lot?” Hamshanks spat. “Well, maybe you’ll surprise me.
31:53 <wrothmonk> “Your boat leaves in an hour, so I’ll be brief. One of the Society’s contacts in Andoran sent us an interesting little nugget this morning. A druid named Hemzel swept into Augustana’s Civic Library last week, demanding his right of research. Our contact learned that Hemzel acquired a lorestone from somewhere in the Verduran Forest. Heard of such a thing?” Hamshanks paused expectantly and spat again. “Of course not. Heard of druids, at
31:55 <wrothmonk> least? And their crazy stone circles? Well thank Gorum for that. Lorestones are somehow connected to them—supposedly they can bestow you with all of the knowledge of the druids. We’d like to know how, so we want that stone and you’re going to get it for us.
31:56 <wrothmonk> "Unfortunately, the Society is not a friend to Hemzel. He’s the self-declared protector of the Verduran Forest inside Andoran’s borders and some of our more eager explorers have angered him and his little band of gnomes. He’s sworn a blood feud with the Pathfinders.
31:57 <wrothmonk> “Break out your skills of persuasion and get me that lorestone. Do what you need to—sweep the floors or plant some trees for the old man. Something nice—let him know we’re there to study and not to slash and burn.”
32:40 * Shalbrock gently pets Penelope.
33:24 <Shalbrock> um.... yeah... but that would be metagaming.
34:07 * Jannisari knows more then he is letting on.
34:58 <Shalbrock> I will purchase some Liquid Ice, and some acid splash.
35:11 <Shalbrock> acid flasks
35:15 <Shalbrock> You can...
35:17 <Sparky> I'll buy some alkali flasks
35:32 <Sparky> and holy water and antitoxins
35:34 <Shalbrock> you know there are all kinds of animals, fey, and mysterious other creatures.
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36:57 <Shalbrock> no we dont know what we are going to fight, but that in that forest there are thousands of different creatures.
37:03 <Shalbrock> thats the point.
37:32 <Shalbrock> We prepare for the worst.
37:48 <Shalbrock> anyways.
39:57 <wrothmonk> 67.184.108.80
40:46 <Sparky> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/DevCA22b135.zip
42:00 <Shalbrock> PINK
42:02 <Sparky> yellow
42:16 <Rysh> blue
42:17 <Shalbrock> um.... my AC a Purple
42:36 <Shalbrock> ill be in the back
42:43 <Sparky> i'll be second to the back
42:47 <Shalbrock> who can use a CLW wand?
42:50 <Sparky> me
42:57 <Shalbrock> would you like my wand?
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43:38 <Sparky> sure
43:47 <Shalbrock> please use it liberally on me or my AC and sparingly on the rest of you.
43:57 <Mort-> Sorry i shouldn't see
43:58 <wrothmonk> blue outlined areas are impassible
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44:09 <wrothmonk> but you can make a climb check or bash at them
44:23 <Shalbrock> yup.
44:28 <Shalbrock> silly girl.
46:05 <Shalbrock> whats your Eidolons AC?
46:23 <Shalbrock> no wroth, let us make the decision
46:35 <Sparky> AC 17
46:37 <Shalbrock> I will let my animal companion go first.
46:43 <Shalbrock> Its AC is 21
46:54 <Shalbrock> indeed i am!
47:06 <Shalbrock> sylvan bloodline
47:29 <Shalbrock> my animmal companion
47:35 <Shalbrock> yup
47:39 <Shalbrock> taste the anger!
47:48 <Shalbrock> its a wildblooded fey bloodline
47:53 <Shalbrock> sylvaan
48:12 <Shalbrock> i think an avatar might be making wild accusations
48:25 <Shalbrock> Purple
48:52 <Shalbrock> if we play up, im bringin another character
49:08 <Shalbrock> but last i checked
49:20 <Shalbrock> im a 1
49:24 <Shalbrock> or i can bring a 5
49:33 <Shalbrock> both with animal companions
49:44 <Shalbrock> whoever can heal
50:26 <Shalbrock> summoners do not have CLW
51:07 <Sparky> animal companion first
51:13 <Sparky> Sparky/blue second
51:27 <Sparky> Rysh/blue third
51:29 <Sparky> Sparky is yellow
52:08 <Shalbrock> no penelope was purple
52:12 <Shalbrock> I am pink
52:40 <Shalbrock> i announced this when you first asked for colors
54:53 <Sparky> animal companion (P) - Sparky - Rysh - Maridia - Jamni - Shalbrock
56:47 <Shalbrock> wroth... http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/
56:55 <Shalbrock> GMs friend.
57:30 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+3 initiative
57:30 <dicebot> Sparky, initiative: [1d20=3] 6
57:35 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20
57:35 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20: [1d20=8] 8
57:40 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20
57:41 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20: [1d20=2] 2
57:49 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+4, INIT
57:50 <diebot> Rysh, INIT: [1d20=9] 13
58:37 <Jannisari> 12 for me inits wise and 4 for my eidelon
58:40 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+1 init
58:40 <diebot> Shalbrock, init: [1d20=4] 5
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59:42 <Shalbrock> its okay man, breathe deep and calmly.
00:59 <Sparky> 4 for the eidolon, 12 for jamni
01:06 <wrothmonk> Rysh, Jannisari, sparky, shalbrock, and meridia the eidolon
01:23 <Shalbrock> my character might magically level up...
01:47 <Shalbrock> im just gonna assign some old GM credit.
02:43 <wrothmonk> it is now Rysh's turn
03:11 <Shalbrock> Um my character magically levels up...
03:23 <Shalbrock> nothing changes save for HP and i learn a spell.
05:34 <Shalbrock> technically we dont know what he is.
05:42 <Shalbrock> we would have to make a knowledge check
08:33 <Rysh> I'll move to G11, Pull out my long bow and an arrow, and ready to shoot if something threatens
10:36 <wrothmonk> Jannisari's turn
11:46 <Shalbrock> acid splash does not effect a swarm as per the rules.
12:53 <Shalbrock> they take zero damage from melee and single target spells
13:26 <Shalbrock> torches will damage a swarm as you burn the creatures
17:46 <wrothmonk> it is now sparky's turn
18:48 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+5
18:49 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d20+5: [1d20=14] 19
19:15 <Shalbrock> they take 1.5x from AoE effects
19:25 <Sparky> !roll 1d6+5
19:25 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d6+5: [1d6=3] 8
19:33 <Sparky> 12 damage
19:45 <Sparky> "Good day to be an alchemist."
20:03 <Rysh> I love the smell of alchemist fire in the morning
20:10 <Shalbrock> that we dont know of.
20:20 <Shalbrock> we dont know of an invisible guy.
20:52 <Shalbrock> totaly normal
24:01 <Sparky> "We just want to talk!"
24:07 <wrothmonk> "Turn back before you all die"
24:24 <Sparky> !roll 1d20-2 diplomacy
24:25 <dicebot> Sparky, diplomacy: [1d20=9] 7
25:12 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+5
25:13 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+5: [1d20=4] 9
25:21 <Shalbrock> "Rats... can't usually talk."
25:27 <wrothmonk> shelbrock's turn
25:42 <Shalbrock> Penelope will step 5ft north and attempt to smash her some rat
25:55 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+2; 1d6
25:56 <diebot> Shalbrock, 1d20+2: [1d20=8] 10; 1d6: [1d6=4] 4
26:15 <Shalbrock> can we just assume it goes on the order it was thrown?
26:31 <Shalbrock> i dont see why they wouldnt, its as if they were summoned
26:50 <Shalbrock> oh if it didnt attack, penelope wouldnt attack it.
27:01 <Shalbrock> shes on the defend command
27:25 <Shalbrock> "Where are you? Show yourself, I want to speak to you."
27:44 <wrothmonk> shalbrock diplomacy please
27:52 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20-2  WOOT WOOT
27:52 <diebot> Shalbrock, WOOT WOOT: [1d20=11] 9
28:10 <wrothmonk> no response
28:10 <Shalbrock> i move two nw
28:31 <Shalbrock> pull a potion from my bag, and delay
28:46 <Shalbrock> i am the OTHER S
29:07 <Shalbrock> or end turn
29:11 <Shalbrock> sorry
29:14 <Shalbrock> my brain is fuzzy
29:23 <wrothmonk> meridia
29:25 <Shalbrock> Wroth...
29:30 <Shalbrock> you moved the wrong S
30:09 <Shalbrock> thats not a bluff
30:43 <Shalbrock> its a diplomacy, a bluff would be "WE are your friends."
31:09 <Shalbrock> dont count on it.
31:21 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+4
31:22 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+4: [1d20=19] 23
31:46 <Shalbrock> oh yeah i should have made a perception
32:04 <Shalbrock> its GM discretion.
32:22 <Sparky> The target wants to believe you +5
32:22 <Sparky> The lie is believable +0
32:23 <Sparky> The lie is unlikely –5
32:23 <Sparky> The lie is far-fetched –10
32:23 <Sparky> The lie is impossible –20
32:23 <Sparky> The target is drunk or impaired +5
32:23 <Sparky> You possess convincing proof up to +10
33:02 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20
33:02 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20: [1d20=2] 2
33:10 <wrothmonk> no response
33:59 <Shalbrock> OH SNAP!
34:06 <Shalbrock> GM logic!
34:25 <wrothmonk> Rysh's turn
34:41 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+1 Diplomacy We are here to talk with Hemzel. If you are him, please show yourself and allow us to talk.
34:42 <diebot> Rysh, Diplomacy We are here to talk with Hemzel. If you are him, please show yourself and allow us to talk.: [1d20=20] 21
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35:09 <Sparky> atomy
35:15 <wrothmonk> atomie
35:15 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+6 Kn:Nature
35:16 <diebot> Shalbrock, Kn:Nature: [1d20=20] 26
35:30 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+8 nature
35:31 <dicebot> Sparky, nature: [1d20=11] 19
35:34 <Shalbrock> indeed it is.
35:56 <Shalbrock> theres no point.... I identified it.
36:04 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+2
36:05 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+2: [1d20=5] 7
36:05 <Shalbrock> sparky identified it as well likely
36:06 <Rysh> Hello, are you Hemzel?
36:12 <Shalbrock> jannisari... not so much
36:14 <wrothmonk> "Hemzel is dead"
36:23 <Rysh> May I ask what happened?
36:26 <Sparky> "What happened here? (you rat bastard)"
36:28 <Shalbrock> "Well thats disturbing... how?"
36:38 <Jannisari> when?
36:56 <wrothmonk> “Cyflymder said Hemzel was going to lead the humans to destroy the fey! So we pounced and surprised him. Cyflymder and his brutes tore the druid apart. His poor wolf friend too! So much blood!”
37:15 <Rysh> Who is Cyflymder?
37:31 <wrothmonk> “A great, bold fey. He’s promised to clear the Verduran Forest of the scum who stole our heritage. I think he is cruel—it would be better if you fled on your own, wouldn’t it?”
38:04 <Sparky> "Why was Hemzel on his way to destroy the fey?"
38:08 <Rysh> Did Hemzel steal your heritage?
38:16 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+5 perception
38:16 <dicebot> Sparky, perception: [1d20=2] 7
38:20 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+7 Perception
38:21 <diebot> Rysh, Perception: [1d20=11] 18
38:30 <wrothmonk> "I am not so sure if he did intend to destroy the fey"
38:41 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+11 Perception
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38:42 <diebot> Shalbrock, Perception: [1d20=2] 13
38:46 <Rysh> !throw 1d20 sense motive 
38:46 <diebot> Rysh, sense motive: [1d20=7] 7
38:54 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+4 perc Me
38:54 <diebot> Jannisari, perc Me: [1d20=8] 12
39:15 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+4 per eidelon
39:16 <diebot> Jannisari, per eidelon: [1d20=1] 5
39:19 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+3 init
39:19 <dicebot> Sparky, init: [1d20=3] 6
39:24 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+4 INIT
39:24 <diebot> Rysh, INIT: [1d20=13] 17
39:29 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+1 init
39:29 <diebot> Shalbrock, init: [1d20=14] 15
39:30 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20
39:31 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20: [1d20=10] 10
39:38 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20
39:39 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20: [1d20=2] 2
41:03 <Shalbrock> rysh
41:07 <Shalbrock> he is 2 above me.
51:34 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d6
51:35 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d6: [1d6=1] 1
54:35 <Shalbrock> move action to go to the door, move action to open the door
55:32 <wrothmonk> Shalbrocks turn
56:21 <Shalbrock> move G11 cast Daze
56:27 <wrothmonk> unseelie
56:44 <Shalbrock> dc15
57:18 <wrothmonk> it appears dazed
57:20 <Shalbrock> penelope moves to G10 and attacks
57:31 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+2; 1d6
57:31 <diebot> Shalbrock, 1d20+2: [1d20=2] 4; 1d6: [1d6=2] 2
57:35 <Shalbrock> doesnt hit
58:21 <Shalbrock> my dogs barking.. ill be right back
58:28 <Shalbrock> if im not back by my turn
58:39 <Shalbrock> i delay
00:49 <wrothmonk> sparky's turn
01:00 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+8 nature
01:00 <dicebot> Sparky, nature: [1d20=17] 25
03:16 <Sparky> !roll 1d6-1
03:16 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d6-1: [1d6=2] 1
03:59 <wrothmonk> rysh's turn
04:05 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d6
04:05 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d6: [1d6=1] 1
05:37 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+6 Reflex
05:38 <diebot> Rysh, Reflex: [1d20=5] 11
07:59 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+10 Reflex
07:59 <diebot> Rysh, Reflex: [1d20=8] 18
09:39 <wrothmonk> Shalbrock
09:47 <wrothmonk> steven you back?
09:53 <Shalbrock> i just got back
10:10 <Shalbrock> so....
10:24 <Shalbrock> I will magic fang my AC
10:49 <Shalbrock> as a full round action oil rubbin
10:57 <Shalbrock> +1 enhancement
11:16 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+3; 1d6+1
11:17 <diebot> Shalbrock, 1d20+3: [1d20=12] 15; 1d6+1: [1d6=3] 4
11:24 <Shalbrock> no to my Animal companion
11:34 <Shalbrock> then the animal companion attacks
11:44 <Shalbrock> yes
11:59 <Shalbrock> no
12:05 <Shalbrock> its just an attack
12:14 <wrothmonk> Jannisari
12:35 <Shalbrock> +4 ac
12:58 <Shalbrock> you can move through him with an acrobatics vs his CMD
14:16 <Sparky> Jannisari aids Penelope's attack (+2)
14:38 <Shalbrock> just a regular hit
14:40 <Sparky> dagger's TAB
15:08 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20-1
15:08 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20-1: [1d20=17] 16
15:24 <wrothmonk> Penelope has a +2 to next attack
15:34 <wrothmonk> Sparky's turn
15:38 <Sparky> !roll 1d6-1
15:38 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d6-1: [1d6=2] 1
16:16 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5 attacking P
16:17 <diebot> wrothmonk, attacking P: [1d20=17] 22
16:26 <Shalbrock> i dunno
16:41 <Shalbrock> are we going to allow me to put on her armor with my magical level up?
16:51 <Shalbrock> then a hit.
17:08 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d8+2
17:08 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d8+2: [1d8=2] 4
17:16 <Shalbrock> cool cool.
17:30 <Sparky> "I need that axe!"
17:33 <Shalbrock> 9/13
17:55 <Shalbrock> you are such an optimist
18:26 <Shalbrock> no...
18:46 <Shalbrock> yay!
19:04 <wrothmonk> Meridia
20:03 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+1
20:04 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+1: [1d20=15] 16
20:35 <Shalbrock> any other actions?
20:50 <wrothmonk> Rysh's turn
20:55 <wrothmonk> you prone
21:04 <wrothmonk> not prone
21:24 <wrothmonk> !roll 1d20+5
21:25 <dicebot> wrothmonk, 1d20+5: [1d20=19] 24
21:26 <Shalbrock> negative
21:40 <Shalbrock> there is a table between him and the guy
21:46 <Shalbrock> if he was prone
21:59 <Shalbrock> lol
22:05 <Shalbrock> attack from prone.
22:38 <Shalbrock> no, no flanking right now
22:40 <wrothmonk> !roll 1d8+2
22:40 <dicebot> wrothmonk, 1d8+2: [1d8=4] 6
23:28 <Shalbrock> two daggers?
23:49 <Shalbrock> you only get one swift a turn
24:09 <Shalbrock> no
24:14 <Shalbrock> no
25:48 <Shalbrock> no, its a swift action to activate A spring loaded wrist sheath
26:01 <Shalbrock> nope
26:21 <Shalbrock> you could draw them as part of a move action
26:48 <Shalbrock> Your call, but be aware it is NOT supported by the rules.
26:58 <wrothmonk> I believe it is steven.
28:16 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+7 Attack
28:17 <diebot> Rysh, Attack: [1d20=17] 24
28:42 <Rysh> !throw 1d4+1d8
28:42 <diebot> Rysh, 1d4+1d8: [1d4=1; 1d8=7] 8
29:38 <wrothmonk> shalbrock
29:51 <Shalbrock> i shield my animal companion as per the spell
30:01 <Shalbrock> +4 shield bonus to AC
30:11 <Shalbrock> it will move in to attack
30:18 <Shalbrock> F0
30:21 <Shalbrock> f9
30:29 <Shalbrock> provokes an AoO
30:40 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5 AoO
30:40 <diebot> wrothmonk, AoO: [1d20=2] 7
30:48 <wrothmonk> doesn't hit
30:54 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+5; 1d6+1
30:54 <diebot> Shalbrock, 1d20+5: [1d20=7] 12; 1d6+1: [1d6=3] 4
31:01 <Shalbrock> nope tun over
31:10 <wrothmonk> Jannisari's turn
31:39 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5
31:39 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d20+5: [1d20=4] 9
32:33 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20-1
32:33 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20-1: [1d20=16] 15
32:43 <wrothmonk> meridian +2 to next attack
32:56 <wrothmonk> sparky's turn
33:08 <Shalbrock> well roll 2 damage and the thing will break.
33:49 <Sparky> !roll 1d6-1
33:49 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d6-1: [1d6=4] 3
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35:59 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5
35:59 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d20+5: [1d20=18] 23
36:03 <Shalbrock> 5ft step ontop of the table?
36:20 <Shalbrock> or a 5ft step with a high acrobatics check
36:40 <Shalbrock> probably dc 15
37:05 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5 vs rysh
37:05 <diebot> wrothmonk, vs rysh: [1d20=5] 10
37:40 <wrothmonk> meridia's turn
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39:10 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+5
39:10 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+5: [1d20=18] 23
40:24 <Jannisari> !throw 1d6+16
40:24 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d6+16: [1d6=2] 18
40:36 <Shalbrock> you are not doing +16 damage at first level
42:45 <wrothmonk> Rsy's turn
42:54 <wrothmonk> Janni and Meridian are in fire
43:43 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+5 Attack 1
43:43 <diebot> Rysh, Attack 1: [1d20=9] 14
43:52 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+5 Attack 2
43:53 <Shalbrock> question, doesnt your eidolon have 2 claw attacks?
43:53 <diebot> Rysh, Attack 2: [1d20=6] 11
44:13 <Sparky> "Move the eidolon! I'll bomb it!"
44:24 <Shalbrock> why arent you doing a full round?
44:28 <Sparky> "I don't know what this is gonna do!"
44:48 <Shalbrock> no, you can do a full round any time you dont take a move and a standard in a turn
45:39 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+4
45:39 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+4: [1d20=10] 14
46:10 <wrothmonk> shalbrock
47:38 <Shalbrock> it will attack the baddie
47:56 <wrothmonk> roll it
48:02 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+3; 1d6+1
48:02 <diebot> Shalbrock, 1d20+3: [1d20=18] 21; 1d6+1: [1d6=3] 4
48:15 <Shalbrock> its magic
48:21 <Shalbrock> i dont know what its reduction is
48:47 <Shalbrock> i will ray of cold the fire near penelope
49:04 <Shalbrock> yeah thats the one, ray of frost
49:09 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+2
49:10 <diebot> Shalbrock, 1d20+2: [1d20=13] 15
49:20 <Shalbrock> i believe that beats the AC 5 to hit a square
49:25 <wrothmonk> the fire at meridian extinguishes 
49:35 <wrothmonk> meridia*
49:36 <Shalbrock> end turn.
50:57 <wrothmonk> jANNISARI'S TURN
51:00 <wrothmonk> caps sory
51:08 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d6
51:08 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d6: [1d6=1] 1
52:28 <Shalbrock> the fire spread between your last turn
52:49 <Shalbrock> movement only ever provokes once.
53:07 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5
53:08 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d20+5: [1d20=13] 18
53:14 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d8+2
53:14 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d8+2: [1d8=2] 4
53:19 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d6
53:19 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d6: [1d6=6] 6
53:42 <Shalbrock> why is he taking damage?  did he try to pick up the burning dude?
54:00 * Shalbrock facepalms
54:12 <Shalbrock> its okay.
54:34 <Shalbrock> im not facepalming on your action, im facepalming that we are doing this so poorly
55:00 <wrothmonk> sparky's turn
55:47 <Shalbrock> why oh why cant you have frost bombs
55:49 <Shalbrock> lol
57:30 <Sparky> G6 G7 H6 negating
57:49 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+5
57:50 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d20+5: [1d20=12] 17
59:01 <Shalbrock> i begin ray of frosting like mad
59:16 <wrothmonk> meridia
59:19 <Shalbrock> peneleope would leave the building
59:35 <Shalbrock> i need to go afk for a second
00:18 <wrothmonk> !throw 2#1d6
00:18 <diebot> wrothmonk, 2#1d6: [1d6=2] 2, [1d6=5] 5
01:30 <wrothmonk> meridian is carrying Jannisari
01:42 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d6
01:42 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d6: [1d6=3] 3
02:17 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+4 Acro jump out door
02:18 <diebot> Rysh, Acro jump out door: [1d20=16] 20
02:24 <Shalbrock> Alright im back... good news for the steve man.  I didnt chuck.
02:49 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+4 Reflex save out fire
02:49 <diebot> Rysh, Reflex save out fire: [1d20=15] 19
03:05 <wrothmonk> rysh epically rolls out of the building
03:45 <wrothmonk> Shallbrock's turn
03:47 <Shalbrock> putting yourself out is a full round action
04:12 <Shalbrock> im cool with it.
04:19 <Shalbrock> just thought you should know
04:22 <wrothmonk> shalbrocks turn
04:26 <Shalbrock> Oh penelope leaves the building
04:41 <Shalbrock> away from the fire
05:17 <Shalbrock> is G6 on fire?
05:29 <wrothmonk> no
05:40 <Shalbrock> then i will ray of frost G7
05:51 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+2
05:52 <diebot> Shalbrock, 1d20+2: [1d20=15] 17
06:01 <Shalbrock> I did G7
06:20 <Shalbrock> yup
06:27 <wrothmonk> jannisari's turn
06:33 <Shalbrock> roll to stabalize
07:02 <Sparky> 1d20 + con mod + hp
07:08 <Shalbrock> so 1d20+con-current hp
07:11 <Sparky> so 1d20 + 1 -1 
07:18 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20
07:18 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20: [1d20=4] 4
07:40 <wrothmonk> sparky's turn
07:44 <Shalbrock> water skin?
08:41 <Rysh> Waterskin: Twenty waterskins full of water extinguish one square.
08:52 <Sparky> really ?
09:02 <Sparky> where does it say
09:07 <Rysh> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/environment/environmental-rules
09:11 <Shalbrock> unless rysh there are specific notations in the scenario
09:18 <Rysh> good point
09:37 <Shalbrock> 20 waterskins/5ft square.
09:59 <Shalbrock> no...
10:25 <Sparky> brb
10:35 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+2
10:36 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+2: [1d20=17] 19
10:41 <Shalbrock> a gallon of water is 8 and some change.
11:05 <Shalbrock> why would hte house burn down?
11:12 <Shalbrock> i just ray of frost each turn.
11:18 <Shalbrock> putting out a 5ft square
12:06 <Sparky> back
12:09 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+5
12:10 <diebot> Rysh, 1d20+5: [1d20=8] 13
12:36 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20-1
12:36 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20-1: [1d20=16] 15
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13:20 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+5
13:21 <diebot> Rysh, 1d20+5: [1d20=19] 24
13:37 <Rysh> !throw 1d8+1 healing CLW wand
13:38 <diebot> Rysh, healing CLW wand: [1d8=3] 4
13:56 <Shalbrock> no
14:08 <Shalbrock> when you stablize you are still negative you just dont bleed anymore
14:43 <Shalbrock> yeah snickers... you got them wands boi!
15:09 <Shalbrock> im fighting the fire, i dunno what the rest of you doin.
15:51 <Sparky> !roll 1d8+1 janni's heal
15:51 <dicebot> Sparky, janni's heal: [1d8=3] 4
16:13 <Sparky> 43 charges remain
16:13 <wrothmonk> "What is going on here!"
16:29 <Shalbrock> "Fight the fire you fools before it spreads!"
17:13 <Shalbrock> wroth check your messages.
18:50 <Shalbrock> Cool cool, thanks man.
19:02 <Shalbrock> lots and lots of ray of frosting.
19:16 <Shalbrock> which was my whole goal.
19:21 <Sparky> !roll 1d20-2 diplomacy aid
19:22 <dicebot> Sparky, diplomacy aid: [1d20=20] 18
19:28 <Sparky> "We're all together!"
19:47 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+1 We're just wanting to help Henzel
19:47 <diebot> Rysh, We're just wanting to help Henzel: [1d20=4] 5
19:57 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+5   (diplomacy)
19:57 <diebot> Jannisari, (diplomacy): [1d20=8] 13
20:13 <Shalbrock> Im not saying anything, I'm battling the fire to keep it from spreading to the forest.
20:49 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+1
20:50 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+1: [1d20=19] 20
23:08 <Shalbrock> save that from their perspective you might have gotten the burns looting the house after killing their friend.
23:36 <wrothmonk> "Let us bury him properly. You can chase down whoever did this. We believe cymflinder went to the druidic circle in the north"
24:42 <Sparky> "Is it easy enough to find?"
25:20 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+5 linguistics
25:21 <dicebot> Sparky, linguistics: [1d20=4] 9
25:29 <Rysh> Sparky, could you please heal me with my wand?
25:37 <Sparky> sure, just roll it
25:51 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+2
25:51 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+2: [1d20=10] 12
25:54 <Rysh> !throw 1d8+1 Healing #1
25:54 <diebot> Rysh, Healing #1: [1d8=3] 4
26:11 <Rysh> !throw 1d8+2 Healing #2
26:11 <diebot> Rysh, Healing #2: [1d8=3] 5
26:38 <Sparky> Hemzel severely tried to keep the lorestone away from sunlight
27:42 <Sparky> Jannisari: what's your hp
27:57 <Shalbrock> sparky, i sent you a message
29:12 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20
29:12 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20: [1d20=3] 3
30:22 <Jannisari> !throw 1d10
30:23 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d10: [1d10=5] 5
32:16 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+2 Engeneering
32:16 <diebot> Jannisari, Engeneering: [1d20=17] 19
32:20 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+1 Eng How stable is the bridge
32:20 <diebot> Rysh, Eng How stable is the bridge: [1d20=11] 12
33:44 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+5 perception traps
33:44 <dicebot> Sparky, perception traps: [1d20=19] 24
33:52 <Jannisari> perc !throw 1d20+4
33:52 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+7 perception traps?
33:53 <diebot> Rysh, perception traps?: [1d20=11] 18
36:31 <Sparky> Jannisari: what's your hp
37:42 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+4 Acro to reach trap
37:43 <diebot> Rysh, Acro to reach trap: [1d20=8] 12
38:16 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+7 Perception
38:16 <diebot> Rysh, Perception: [1d20=8] 15
39:00 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+3 init
39:01 <dicebot> Sparky, init: [1d20=10] 13
39:07 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+4 init
39:07 <diebot> Rysh, init: [1d20=17] 21
39:40 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+4 Jans init
39:41 <diebot> Jannisari, Jans init: [1d20=8] 12
40:02 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+2 Meridia init
40:02 <diebot> Jannisari, Meridia init: [1d20=19] 21
41:15 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+1 shalbrook init
41:16 <dicebot> Sparky, shalbrook init: [1d20=10] 11
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41:55 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+4 Retreat along bridge
41:55 <diebot> Rysh, Retreat along bridge: [1d20=8] 12
43:21 <wrothmonk> !throw 1d20-2
43:22 <diebot> wrothmonk, 1d20-2: [1d20=4] 2
44:18 * Jannisari ready an action to power attack
46:43 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+5
46:43 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d20+5: [1d20=10] 15
46:52 <Sparky> !roll 1d6+5
46:52 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d6+5: [1d6=6] 11
47:30 <wrothmonk> brb janna turn next
48:13 <Sparky> can't hear anyone
48:32 <Sparky> did anyone else drop from the call
48:37 <Jannisari> yep
48:50 <Jannisari> red bars
49:07 <Sparky> I think wrothmonk got disconnected
49:44 <Sparky> and rysh with him
50:08 Sparky is now known as Avatar
50:14 <Avatar> step out of character until they're back
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51:23 <Avatar> WB
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51:34 <Wrothmonk> sorry about that, accidentally un-plugged the router with my laptop charger :p
51:43 <Avatar> good 1
51:49 sir_stiletto is now known as Rysh
51:54 Avatar is now known as Sparky
52:08 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Wrothmonk
52:08 ChanOP gives voice to Rysh
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56:42 <Sparky> Shalbrock readies an action for it to come in range (30ft) of him
56:45 <Sparky> after 5ft stepping out
01:11 <Rysh> !throw 1d20
01:11 <diebot> Rysh, 1d20: [1d20=15] 15
01:30 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+2
01:31 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d20+2: [1d20=11] 13
01:49 <Wrothmonk> rush's turn
02:13 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+2
02:14 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d20+2: [1d20=7] 9
02:42 <Rysh> draw both daggers ready action to attack when in reach
03:07 <Wrothmonk> meridia
03:47 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+2
03:47 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d20+2: [1d20=7] 9
03:52 <Jannisari> more readying of both jaan and meridia
03:57 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+3
03:58 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d20+3: [1d20=6] 9
05:41 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+3
05:42 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+3: [1d20=11] 14
07:08 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+6
07:08 <diebot> Rysh, 1d20+6: [1d20=15] 21
07:33 <Rysh> !throw 1d4+1
07:34 <diebot> Rysh, 1d4+1: [1d4=2] 3
08:35 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+1
08:36 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+1: [1d20=4] 5
08:59 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+4
09:00 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d20+4: [1d20=3] 7
09:31 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+3
09:31 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+3: [1d20=8] 11
10:03 <Wrothmonk> !roll 1d20+5
10:03 <dicebot> Wrothmonk, 1d20+5: [1d20=2] 7
10:45 <Shalbrock> hey. im back.
11:23 <Rysh> welcome back.  you killed everything like a true hero.  
11:24 <Shalbrock> i think i pulled a muscle in my stomach
11:41 <Rysh> I hope you didn't that sounded terrible
11:44 <Rysh> souds
12:54 <Shalbrock> can i make a perception check to figure it out?
13:47 <Wrothmonk> !spell entangle
13:48 <diebot> Wrothmonk, ENTANGLE transmutation ([]) druid 1, ranger 1 1 standard action Range: long (400 ft. + 40 ft./level)  Comp: V, S, DF Duration: 1 min./level Save: Reflex partial; see text SR:no
13:48 <diebot> This spell causes tall grass, weeds, and other plants to wrap around foes in the area of effect or those that enter the area. Creatures that fail their save gain the entangled condition. Creatures that make their save can move as normal, but those that remain in the area must save again at the end of your turn. Creatures that move into the area
13:48 <diebot> must save immediately. Those that fail must end their movement and gain the entangled condition. Entangled creatures can attempt to break free as a move action, making a Strength or Escape Artist check. The DC for this check is equal to the DC of the spell. The entire area of effect is considered difficult terrain while the effect lasts. If the
13:48 <diebot> plants in the area are covered in thorns, those in the area take 1 point of damage each time they fail a save against the entangle or fail a check made to break free. Other effects, depending on the local plants, might be possible at GM discretion.
14:07 <Shalbrock> oh yeah, good ole entangle.
14:26 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+3 init
14:27 <dicebot> Sparky, init: [1d20=15] 18
14:28 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+4 init
14:28 <diebot> Rysh, init: [1d20=20] 24
14:34 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20
14:34 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20: [1d20=5] 5
14:43 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+1 init
14:43 <diebot> Shalbrock, init: [1d20=18] 19
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15:02 <Jannisari> 9 total for Jaan 
15:21 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+2 Meridia
15:21 <diebot> Jannisari, Meridia: [1d20=12] 14
15:26 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+7
15:27 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d20+7: [1d20=5] 12
15:49 <Shalbrock> so what cast entangle upon us?
16:09 <Shalbrock> you know that mage hand does not work on magical items.
16:27 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+3
16:27 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d20+3: [1d20=17] 20
16:42 <Shalbrock> Target one nonmagical, unattended object weighing up to 5 lbs.
18:41 <Wrothmonk> Rysh, your turn
18:45 <Shalbrock> wroth... what cast entangle on us.
19:14 <Shalbrock> exactly
19:24 <Shalbrock> surprise round for them, in which they cast entangle
19:44 <Shalbrock> which breaks invisibility.
19:51 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+6 reflex
19:51 <dicebot> Sparky, reflex: [1d20=7] 13
20:13 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+2 Meridia reflex
20:14 <diebot> Jannisari, Meridia reflex: [1d20=12] 14
20:22 <Shalbrock> is this a spell or spell like ability?
20:39 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+2 Jaan reflex
20:39 <diebot> Jannisari, Jaan reflex: [1d20=15] 17
20:40 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+6 REF Save
20:41 <diebot> Rysh, REF Save: [1d20=17] 23
21:25 <Shalbrock> 40ft radius from focal point
21:31 <Sparky> http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/spells/entangle.html
21:45 <Shalbrock> right click the tool
21:47 <Shalbrock> good job
22:12 <Shalbrock> is this a spell or spell like ability, it effects my save
22:24 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+5 Ref
22:24 <diebot> Shalbrock, Ref: [1d20=9] 14
22:51 <Shalbrock> oh my pet
23:09 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+3
23:10 <diebot> Shalbrock, 1d20+3: [1d20=3] 6
23:14 <Shalbrock> my pet is entangled
23:40 <Sparky> <?entangled
23:40 <diebot> The character is ensnared. Being entangled impedes movement, but does not entirely prevent it unless the bonds are anchored to an immobile object or tethered by an opposing force. An entangled creature moves at half speed, cannot run or charge, and takes a 2 penalty on all attack rolls and a 4 penalty to Dexterity. An entangled character who
23:41 <diebot> attempts to cast a spell must make a concentration check (DC 15 + spell level) or lose the spell.
23:56 <Shalbrock> i know
23:58 <Sparky> DC 13
30:15 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5
30:15 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d20+5: [1d20=13] 18
30:28 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d4
30:28 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d4: [1d4=1] 1
30:50 <Wrothmonk> shalbrock
31:04 <Shalbrock> I will double move to V14
31:21 <Shalbrock> 20 ft
31:43 <Shalbrock> The entire area of entangle is difficult terrain
31:56 <Shalbrock> and you moved snickers
32:01 <Shalbrock> i am the pink
32:04 <Sparky> I am sparky
32:05 <Sparky> not snickers
32:12 <Sparky> get it right !
32:13 <Shalbrock> whatever, an S character
32:42 <Shalbrock> my AC will try to break out
33:16 <Wrothmonk> roll?
33:23 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20 str check
33:23 <diebot> Shalbrock, str check: [1d20=16] 16
33:46 <Shalbrock> T14
33:50 <Shalbrock> end turn
35:55 <Shalbrock> jumping costs movement as normal
39:16 <Shalbrock> as soon as he enters the area he makes a save as normal
43:38 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+6 REF
43:38 <diebot> Rysh, REF: [1d20=6] 12
44:10 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+4 Escape Artist
44:10 <diebot> Rysh, Escape Artist: [1d20=11] 15
45:07 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5
45:07 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d20+5: [1d20=17] 22
45:11 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d4
45:12 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d4: [1d4=3] 3
45:31 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+5 me ref; 1d20+3 Companion Ref
45:31 <diebot> Shalbrock, me ref: [1d20=5] 10; Companion Ref: [1d20=10] 13
46:09 <Shalbrock> i will attempt to break out, my companion will go to Z11
47:03 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+1
47:04 <diebot> Shalbrock, 1d20+1: [1d20=18] 19
47:07 <Shalbrock> escape artist
47:15 <Shalbrock> i will move to x-12
47:28 <Shalbrock> end turn.
47:31 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+6 reflex last turn
47:31 <dicebot> Sparky, reflex last turn: [1d20=11] 17
48:50 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+5
48:50 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d20+5: [1d20=8] 13
50:54 <Sparky> !roll 1d8
50:54 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d8: [1d8=1] 1
51:13 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+2 Meridia ref
51:14 <diebot> Jannisari, Meridia ref: [1d20=8] 10
51:27 <Sparky> 5 bombs remain
51:51 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+3 meridia strength
51:51 <diebot> Jannisari, meridia strength: [1d20=13] 16
53:14 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+9
53:15 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d20+9: [1d20=2] 11
53:20 <Shalbrock> not even close
53:52 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+2
53:52 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+2: [1d20=12] 14
54:55 <Wrothmonk> Eysh has the lorestone
55:12 <Shalbrock> yes run away against a quickling...
55:23 <Shalbrock> lol
57:14 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5
57:14 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d20+5: [1d20=16] 21
57:17 <Shalbrock> no one likes rysh...
57:19 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d4
57:20 <diebot> Wrothmonk, 1d4: [1d4=3] 3
57:29 <Shalbrock> yeah... screw your immunity to fire!
57:56 <Shalbrock> i will cast shield on myself
58:20 <Shalbrock> i will move to !a11
58:30 <Shalbrock> drawing a light crossbow
58:44 <Shalbrock> my animal companion will stand infront of me !a10
58:46 <Shalbrock> yup
59:20 <Shalbrock> ready to attack that pesky bastard that attacked her last turn
59:32 <Wrothmonk> sparky's turn
59:33 <Shalbrock> or stand there dumbly... you know... whatever
59:48 <Shalbrock> there aint much i can do currently.
00:10 <Shalbrock> i dont think we have hit either...
00:35 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+5
00:36 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d20+5: [1d20=18] 23
00:40 <Sparky> !roll 1d6+5
00:41 <dicebot> Sparky, 1d6+5: [1d6=6] 11
00:58 <Shalbrock> doesnt always hit.
01:14 <Shalbrock> Monks disgree wholeheartedly
01:32 <Wrothmonk> meridia
01:34 <Sparky> 4 bombs remain
01:40 <Shalbrock> go go meridia!
02:09 <Wrothmonk> Meridia is under A
02:25 <Sparky> "You're going boomy next!"
03:18 <Shalbrock> and then its +4 per foot above 5ft
03:33 <Shalbrock> lol
04:31 <Jannisari> !throw 1d20+3
04:32 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d20+3: [1d20=14] 17
04:47 <Jannisari> !throw 1d3
04:47 <diebot> Jannisari, 1d3: [1d3=2] 2
05:49 <Shalbrock> sparky convinced it to take a nap
06:58 <Shalbrock> it will take a move action to get some rope out, another move action to get a pole out.
09:50 <Sparky> !roll 1d20+8 nature
09:51 <dicebot> Sparky, nature: [1d20=14] 22
09:53 <Shalbrock> can you describe said flower?
10:01 <Shalbrock> !throw 1d20+6 Flower picking
10:02 <diebot> Shalbrock, Flower picking: [1d20=5] 11
10:15 <Shalbrock> i was helpin ya find it
10:43 <Shalbrock> I take 20 and get a 31
11:00 <Wrothmonk> you find /everything/
12:18 <Shalbrock> Pffffft i would have played Bari Haymaker
13:12 <Shalbrock> I stop in town and pick up some barding for my Animal companion, taking his AC to 25
13:26 <Rysh> http://pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=579
13:28 <Shalbrock> Yeah grats on your first game man.
14:00 <Wrothmonk> got avatar, steven
14:04 <Jannisari> still woulda loved to see that butterfly net
14:06 <Shalbrock> avatar... 25ac on an AC... feels so good.
14:16 <Wrothmonk> need green and thats it
14:19 <Sparky> nice
14:23 Shalbrock is now known as Steven
14:38 Rysh is now known as sir_stiletto
14:43 <Steven> it only has light armor prof right now
14:49 <Wrothmonk> wait nvm, I got all your char sheets I just need what you wanted to buy
15:03 <Jannisari> so whats max gold on this one? and what faction rep do i get?
15:04 <Sparky> I don't mind if you leave that part blank 
15:08 <Steven> oh hey, need to make a handle animal check to teach him a new trick.
15:11 Sparky is now known as Avatar
15:16 <Wrothmonk> max gold is...
15:20 <Wrothmonk> you all get two prestiege
15:21 <Avatar> you'll get a chronicle sheet janni which lists all the rewards
15:35 <Avatar> you'll want to buy a wand of some sort of healing with your 2 prestige
15:36 <Wrothmonk> 546 gp
15:39 <Jannisari> ah ok cool
15:42 <Avatar> any 1st level wand
15:57 <Wrothmonk> I'll be making the chronicle sheets
15:59 <Avatar> you don't have to, but you're responsible for your own healing
16:02 <Wrothmonk> Can I get your guy's email
16:10 <Jannisari> wand of summon pellows. lol
16:13 <Wrothmonk> and I need to know how to register this on paizo
16:34 <Avatar> I'll pm you some directions
16:44 <Wrothmonk> alright
17:03 <Steven> !throw 1d20+7 Trick:Heel DC15
17:03 <diebot> Steven, Trick:Heel DC15: [1d20=20] 27
17:09 <Wrothmonk> Oh!
17:12 <Wrothmonk> I forgot something
17:14 <Wrothmonk> dayjobs
17:22 <Steven> woot, my Companion just learned the heel command. woot woot.
17:29 <Avatar> oh yeah!
17:44 <Avatar> !roll 1d20+8 craft dayjob
17:44 <dicebot> Avatar, craft dayjob: [1d20=12] 20
17:48 sir_stiletto is now known as Rysh
17:48 <Avatar> +20gp
18:00 <Rysh> !throw 1d20+5
18:00 <diebot> Rysh, 1d20+5: [1d20=4] 9
18:06 <Avatar> ouch
18:06 <Wrothmonk> 5 right?
18:12 Rysh is now known as sir_stiletto
18:16 <sir_stiletto> I suck at my day job
18:26 <Avatar> that might be 1gp
18:31 <Jannisari> how does dayjob work?
18:43 <Wrothmonk> craft, perform, or proffession
18:47 <Wrothmonk> has to be trained
18:47 <Avatar> if you have a rank in craft profession or perform, you roll a day job roll at the end of a scenario
18:58 <Avatar> your eidolon can't have the rank, it has to be you
19:10 <Avatar> change your nick back
19:27 <Wrothmonk> How do you want me to send your chronicle green?
19:28 <Jannisari> mine is courtisan
19:28 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
19:32 * Avatar removes voice from Avatar Jannisari sir_stiletto Steven
19:42 <Steven> I think im going to put points into int every single time i get to choose.
19:43 <Avatar> that's it, roll it
19:48 <Wrothmonk> do !dayjob
19:54 <Wrothmonk> then your modifier
19:59 <sir_stiletto> !dayjob
20:00 <diebot> sir_stiletto, Usage: !dayjob <modifier>. Currently only works with positive modifiers.
20:05 <Jannisari> email it to [email protected]
20:10 <Steven> make it the smartest Ankylosaurus ever.
20:10 <sir_stiletto> !dayjob +5
20:11 <diebot> sir_stiletto, Roll: 12 5gp
20:32 Jannisari is now known as Greenguy33
20:34 <sir_stiletto> cool… I'll try to remember that day job macro...
20:53 <Wrothmonk> do !dayjob +6 green.
20:57 <Steven> !dayjob 41
20:58 <diebot> Steven, Roll: 51 150gp
21:08 <sir_stiletto> 41?
21:11 <Wrothmonk> You don't get credit, do you get a dayjob?
21:13 <Steven> dont worry bout it.
21:23 <Steven> i was giving an example
21:30 <Greenguy33> !throw 1d20+6
21:30 <diebot> Greenguy33, 1d20+6: [1d20=18] 24
21:53 <Greenguy33> thats for profesion Courtesan 
22:00 <sir_stiletto> I would love to get that kind of money on my day job.  I think I've done about 8 gold total with 4 modules from my dayjob
22:21 <Wrothmonk> what would 24 be? 20 gp right
22:41 <Steven> and no i dont recieve a chronical sheet so I cant make a dayjob check.
22:53 <Avatar> 24 is 20gp
22:56 <Steven> chronicle even
23:04 <sir_stiletto> why don't you receive a chronicle sheet?
23:14 <Wrothmonk> he has played it before
23:21 <sir_stiletto> oh, ok.  
23:24 <Steven> I have already played this scenario before.
23:38 <Steven> And GMed it.
23:49 <Avatar> what a hero
24:19 <Steven> anymore sunshine gets blown up my ass i'll get a tan in there.
25:06 <sir_stiletto> it's weird with using the spring loaded sheaths… from what I can tell with Two-Weapon Fighting I'm allowed to draw two weapons in the same action like normal.  but I can't find anything that says if I can use two of the spring loaded wrist sheaths at the same time… :-P
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25:22 <Greenguy33> im the one that ran into the burning buiding to save the druids corpse so the gnomes wouldnt kick our ass. im the hero here. lol
25:30 <Greenguy33> jk
26:12 <Avatar> that was a pretty funny turn of events
26:51 <Greenguy33> the spring loaded shieths are for dagger weapons. the two weapon thing is for the l;arger stuff aswell. 
27:44 <sir_stiletto> yeah, but I'm basically focused on light weapons.  I was assuming that having two of the spring loaded wrist sheaths I could get both as one swift, but I'm no sure anymore
27:52 <Greenguy33> or atleast thats what my intuition tells me
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29:12 <sir_stiletto> I can do the larger weapon two fighting, but I lose my sneak attack.  I was hoping to be able to eventually bluff someone so they are caught flat footed, pop both of my daggers out at the same time, and then stab with Sneak Attack.
29:12 <Greenguy33> both as one swift makes sense since the movement nessisary to launch them into your hands is just a wrist flick. something you could do with both hands as a swift action anyway.
30:22 <Greenguy33> i just cant see it being two indipendant swifts or a swift and a main
31:21 <sir_stiletto> I'm just not sure.  what's especially weird is that I can draw two weapons as a free action if I'm understanding the rules for drawing a weapon.  at least I can while I'm moving.
32:06 <Greenguy33> thats outside of combat. readying a weapon is a free action outside of combat
33:03 <Avatar> sir_stiletto: I'm pretty certain that's okay
33:30 <Wrothmonk> alright should be submitted on paizo
34:21 <Greenguy33> im going to bed. ill see you guys later. have fun figuring these rules out! lol
34:26 <Greenguy33> <waves>
34:30 <sir_stiletto> I can find a rule that states that Draw or Sheathe a Weapon is considered a free action combined with a regular move if you have a BAB of +1 or higher… :)
34:36 <sir_stiletto> good night Greenguy33
34:42 <Avatar> gg
34:47 <Wrothmonk> gg
34:52 <Wrothmonk> I hope I did well
35:02 <Avatar> yeah man you did good
35:15 <Greenguy33> you did as well as anyone on their first GM
35:18 <sir_stiletto> you did fine considering it was your first time.  
35:32 <sir_stiletto> now if you do it the same way after 20 games I'll be talking with you… :)
36:00 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure I make those kinds of mistakes after 40+ games
36:10 <sir_stiletto> :)
36:14 <Greenguy33> first time is always a little rough since its not something you hav going off the top of your head yet
36:21 <sir_stiletto> exactly
36:28 <sir_stiletto> practice will smooth things out a lot
36:32 <Steven> sir_stiletto be aware that without a ruling you will run into table variation.  At my table you would be unable to activate two spring loaded wrist sheaths as using a spring loaded wrist sheath is a swift action and as we all know  you only get one of those a round.
36:38 <Avatar> season 0 made it tougher
36:58 <Avatar> I'm checking the messageboards to see if it's been asked before
37:59 <sir_stiletto> Steven that's why I'm trying to find the rules.  It's currently looking like there's distinct rules that would allow me to pull both belt daggers as a free action during a combat move, but to simply using the spring loaded wrist sheathes it would be two rounds to get them both
38:05 <Steven> theres a post about it, but no ruling.
38:14 <Avatar> what's concensus say
38:20 <Avatar> link the thread
38:25 <sir_stiletto> yes please
38:33 <Steven> since it is a mechanical question post it on the james jacobs forum.
38:52 <Avatar> why wouldn't you post a mechanical question in the rules forum
38:57 <Greenguy33> pathfinder does a lot of things different then what im use to but its nothig thats bad just stuff that wasnt as intuitive for me.
38:59 <Steven> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p6gb?Quick-Draw-2-hidden-daggers-in-a-single-turn#7
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40:04 <Avatar> that thread is pretty hopeless
40:08 <Steven> exactly
40:36 <Steven> as i said, james jacob.
40:56 <sir_stiletto> so which forum would you post?  sorry but I'm new enough I'm still learning specifics?
40:58 <Avatar> that doesn't mean anything, just because you can't find a proper thread about it :P
41:18 <Steven> No i am agreeing its pretty hopeless and not very helpfull
41:46 <Avatar>  Rules Questions Pathfinder RPG
41:46 <Avatar> This forum is for questions and answers about the rules of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. House rules, variants and conversions should be posted in the appropriate Community Content forum.
43:25 <Steven> for specific questions with a fairly quick response times.
43:27 <Steven> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l7ns?Ask-James-Jacobs-ALL-your-Questions-Here#0
44:02 <Avatar> I found a thread where a guy mentions using two spring loaded wrist sheathes to draw wands as a swift action and nobody counters him, but that's it
44:21 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ot79?Sheath-or-scabbard#7
46:18 <sir_stiletto> thanks a lot to both of you.  this is helping me learn a lot… :)
50:05 <Steven> discussing it with peoples.
52:06 <Steven> so far, consensus is get quick draw and there would be zero table variation.  I would agree with that.
52:21 <sir_stiletto> I'm going to post first in the Rules Questions and then in the All Your Questions if I don't get an answer in there.  An extension to the question is if I can still do a Full action of both attacks in the same round.  I'm willing to accept it either way, but I'm interested in trying to get a formal rulling.
52:29 <sir_stiletto> zero table variation?
53:44 <Steven> table varition is like where avatar has no problem with it, and i say its not exactly kosher
54:02 <sir_stiletto> ok
54:06 <Steven> table variation is where i allow wands to be put into Spring loaded wrist sheaths, mekkis does not.
54:07 <sir_stiletto> thanks for the qualification
54:14 <sir_stiletto> interesting
56:06 <Steven> ill throw up the post on james jacobs if you want.
57:38 <sir_stiletto> if you want.  I'm figuring that the rules question is likely to be generally accepted as authoritative so posting there gives me what I want if I get an answer, since I prefer to work within the rules and then within my vision for the character.  if I can't get a ruling there then I can post into the looser All your questions and then just make sure that I have a conversation with my GM when it comes up.   
58:19 <sir_stiletto> and I hate people who post the same question into two forums and then try to game the answers so I avoid doing it myself. :)
59:21 <sir_stiletto> and quick draw was a feat that I was seriously thinking about getting, so that may just come sooner than I had anticipated.
59:25 <Steven> well thats the great thing about james jacobs, its actually just his opinion on how he would rule things in his home brew campaign.  So while his anwer is not PFS binding it gives a fairly decent opinion on how a ruling is likely to come down.
00:47 <sir_stiletto> really… that sounds cool.  
00:59 <Mekkis> Steven, I wouldn't call that table variation
01:06 <Mekkis> I'd call that "house rules"
01:19 <Mekkis> (I'll led you put a want in a spring loaded sheath in PFS)
01:24 <Mekkis> s/led/let/
01:37 <Steven> but dont take any ruling to mek cause he starts talking about [O]fficial rulings and what not.
01:58 <sir_stiletto> confusing the tired old man.  what would be the difference between a house rule and a table variation?
02:14 <Mekkis> sir_stiletto, house rule is where the GM says "these are the rules"
02:33 <Mekkis> table variation is where a table GM interprets the rules in a certain way
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02:45 <Mekkis> (in PFS, the GM is Mike Brock)
02:50 <sir_stiletto> ok, I think I can go for that… :)
02:54 <Steven> really not very much, its just in pfs the 'house rules' are trumped by PFS campaign coordinators every time.
03:03 <Mekkis> so house rules in PFS don't really work - actually, they're all published in the guide
03:25 <Steven> so if you can find a ruling that says wands fit in spring loaded wrist sheaths GMs are obligated to follow that ruling
03:31 <Mekkis> sure
03:35 <Steven> despite however they feel.
03:42 <Mekkis> For PFS
03:43 <Mekkis> that is
04:02 <Brunius> Uh
04:15 <Brunius> How about the fact that spring loaded wrist sheaths specifically allow wands
04:17 <Brunius> I'm fairly sure
04:23 <Mekkis> Brunius, they do
04:25 <Mekkis> in PFS
04:26 <Steven> guys...
04:31 <Mekkis> hence "house rule"
04:38 <Steven> i was using it as an example of table variation
04:41 <Brunius> oh, gotcha
04:53 <Steven> because even in my homebrews its allowed, where as in mekkis' its not.
04:59 <Mekkis> table variation is where I say that a wand is close enough to a weapon to be drawn as part of a move action
05:03 <Steven> thats table variation.
05:15 <Brunius> Uh, the CRB specifies that
05:18 <Brunius> Mekkis
05:23 <Mekkis> Brunius, really?
05:28 <Mekkis> give me a page reference
05:30 <Brunius> Fairly sure
05:32 <Mekkis> I'm interested
05:33 <Brunius> I'll find it
05:45 <Brunius> I found it at Arc, because John wasn't sure about it
05:46 <Steven> yeah i'd like to see that reference too.
06:21 <sir_stiletto> combination of two rules stacking.  the AA reference to wrist sheathes talks about wands as one of the items that can go into them
06:50 <sir_stiletto> in the same (AA) the spring loaded works like a standard wrist sheath.
06:56 <sir_stiletto> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o0wj?Wrist-Sheaths-and-NotDaggers
07:42 <sir_stiletto> ultimate equipment p75 has similar for wrist sheath
08:17 <sir_stiletto> but there's no reference to spring loaded wrist sheath
08:28 <sir_stiletto> so I think that AA is still canonical
08:31 <Wrothmonk> Where do I put dayjob gold in the chronicle sheet?
08:53 <Brunius> Add it to items sold
09:02 <Steven> if theres no slot for it, add to items sold and put your initials by it.
11:33 <Steven> btw mekkis and brunius the passage about drawing a weapon and what not is on page 186
11:37 <Brunius> p186, it's a move action.
11:42 <Brunius> Yeah, just found it
12:01 <Brunius> On the prior page it categorises that action as able to be combined with a movement
12:13 <Brunius> Table 8-2
14:51 <sir_stiletto> yeah I'm still trying to find the section/page that talked about two-weapon fighting saying that drawing two weapons was the same as the one…. I know I found it once, but now I can't find it again.. :-P
15:04 <Brunius> Try in table 8-2
15:17 <Steven> It is a move action to draw a weapon or to retrieve a weapon like object like a wand if in easy reach, or to retrieve a stored item
15:38 <Brunius> Yeah sir_stiletto, table 8-2 p 183
15:46 <Brunius> Footnote 3
16:00 <Steven> it then goes on to state if you have a bab of +1 you can draw a weapon as a free action combined with a regular move.  It does not state a weapon like object in this portion of the text.
16:09 <Avatar> sir_stiletto: it's in the combat chapter
16:20 <Avatar> under action types
16:42 <sir_stiletto> yeah that's it
16:48 <sir_stiletto> I remember that it was a footnote… thanks
16:53 <Avatar> I'm using the SRD core rulebook PDF, so I can't give you a page number
17:17 <Steven> @stilleto If you have a base attack bonus of +1 or higher, you may 
17:17 <Steven> draw a weapon as a free action combined with a regular 
17:18 <Steven> move. If you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat, you can 
17:18 <Steven> draw two light or one-handed weapons in the time it would 
17:18 <Steven> normally take you to draw one
18:36 <sir_stiletto> so I'm combining that with being able to draw as a free action with a move to say that drawing two daggers from my belt as I'm moving towards someone works.  however because I had to move I can only attack with one of them that round, because I don't have a full action available anymore
19:48 <Steven> yes, drawing two weapons from your belt as part of a move action works since you have two weapon fighting
20:55 <Steven> I view the spring loaded wrist sheaths as manipulating an item with the exception that it lists the activation speed as a swift action.
21:20 <Avatar> what does that mean
21:20 <Steven> I could be wrong, but thats how I approach it.
21:48 <Steven> Manipulate an Item
21:48 <Steven> Moving or manipulating an item is usually a move action.
21:48 <Steven> This includes retrieving or putting away a stored item, 
21:48 <Steven> picking up an item, moving a heavy object, and opening 
21:48 <Steven> a door. Examples of this kind of action, along with 
21:48 <Steven> whether they incur an attack of opportunity, are given 
21:48 <Steven> in Table 8 –2
22:18 <Avatar> that obviously doesn't apply to something that specifically says it's a swift action
22:39 <Avatar> oh I see what you mean
22:55 <Steven> yeah, thats how my mind approaches it.
23:08 <Avatar> same question is still there though
23:18 <Avatar> two wrist sheathes
25:49 <sir_stiletto> that's why I submitted the question to the rules board.  I would love to have a true ruling on whether two swift actions can be taken at the same time, either generally or in my specific case of two-weapon warrior.  the rules do concretely state that you can only have a single swift action in a round.  but that makes not using the spring loaded wrist sheathes as better than using two normal wrist sheathes… 
27:12 <Steven> well only in the specific case of drawing two weapons.  SLWS(shorted im tired of writing that shit) are still vastly superior when it comes to potions, scrolls, and wands
27:42 <sir_stiletto> and to be honest I can kind of see it either way.  Permitting it means that I'm catching two blades at the same time in less than 1 second.  Not permitting it means that drawing two blades from belt or someplace else is still possible in the same timeframe.
29:36 <sir_stiletto> although purely from a character stand point being able to catch someone flat footed because I suddenly have two daggers in my hands and get the sneak attack bonus would be really cool.
30:15 <Steven> go down the imp feint route
30:36 <Steven> and you can feint one round, and then full round sneak attack the next
33:48 <sir_stiletto> I hadn't spotted that… I'm making a serious note for it. thanks. :)
34:34 <Steven> im not 100% full of bad news.  Sometimes i drop some good news in on people.
35:07 <sir_stiletto> never thought you were… :)
36:08 <sir_stiletto> and Greater Feint looks perfect.  I need to make the person lose their DEX bonus to get my Sneak Attack.  that might be one of the higher level goals for my character
36:27 <Steven> im really quite fond of people who Greater Feint +butterfly sting
37:00 <sir_stiletto> oh wow...
37:16 <sir_stiletto> team up with a barbarian and give him a critical… :)
37:23 <Steven> or a magus.
37:40 <Steven> or a two handed smiting paladin w/ liteny of righteousness
37:46 <sir_stiletto> lol… 
37:48 <Mekkis> how does greater feint let you sneak attack?
37:54 <Mekkis> for a full-round?
38:15 <Steven> greater feint makes them lose their dex bonus until the begining of their next tern
38:17 <Steven> turn
38:24 <Mekkis> no
38:25 <sir_stiletto> it takes away their DEX bonus for 1 round.  which is basically part of the requirement 
38:33 <Steven> in addition to your next attack
38:47 <Mekkis> I thought &greater feint made them lose their dex bonus until the beginning of YOUR next turn
38:55 <diebot> GREATER FEINT [Combat]Prereq:  Combat Expertise, Improved Feint, base attack bonus +6, Int 13.  You are skilled at making foes overreact to your attacks.
38:55 <diebot> Benefit:  Whenever you use feint to cause an opponent to lose his Dexterity bonus, he loses that bonus until the beginning of your next turn, in addition to losing his Dexterity bonus against your next attack.
38:55 <diebot> Normal:  A creature you feint loses its Dexterity bonus against your next attack. Source: Core
39:15 <Steven> sorry im talking from the position of the person feinting.
40:11 <Steven> so anyways, you give the ability for everyone to hit flat footed.
40:23 <Mekkis> sure
42:00 <Steven> you know, my favorite character ive seen so far was a sunder rogue.
42:05 <sir_stiletto> basically right now I rely on flanking, but if I can effect their ability to fight me and others then I've accomplished my goal with this character.
42:21 <Steven> stiletto have you considered become a ninja?
42:50 <Steven> its my humble ability they are better than rogues
43:01 <Steven> opinion even
43:05 <sir_stiletto> I thought about it, but decide to try this way first.  there were some parts of ninja that I didn't like… don't remember why at this point,  too late and tired
43:24 <Steven> god my brain is just murdering my ability to articulate tonight
44:18 <Steven> Anyways stiletto, the reason i mention ninjas is because they gain the ability to swift action invisible and swift action another attack, and swift action several other cool abilities
44:56 <Steven> and im not saying they are ALWAYS better than rogues... just like 98% of the time
45:36 <Mekkis> any PC class is better than a rogue at least 90% of the time
45:42 <Mekkis> but hey, rogues live for the 10%
45:44 <sir_stiletto> I think it was something more to do with the way I was picturing the character than the abilities.  I'm a snob for royalty wanting to become part of the "inner court".  Participating in duels etc.
46:13 <Steven> dont get hung up on the name
46:36 <Mekkis> http://www.ontariopathfinders.com/?p=539
48:27 <Steven> a ninja is a rogue, only they pick up some mystisim that allows them to do crazy stuff
48:37 <Steven> basically a ninja is a Monk Rogue
49:06 <sir_stiletto> oh, I probably could have made a ninja work.  I just didn't really want the sneaky part.  I don't walk around killing people quietly.  I challenge them to a duel and kill them in their face.  :)
49:27 <Steven> yeah, you can do that with a ninja way easier than you can with a rogue
49:49 <sir_stiletto> I'll learn someday.  old dog, hard to teach new tricks
50:12 <Steven> you can wield a katana two handed screaming "EAT A DICK!!!!!" if you want.
50:20 <Mekkis> --- and be a ranger
50:36 <sir_stiletto> lol
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50:47 <Steven> ban hammer inc!
50:47 <Mekkis> PleaseGiveMeAccess, access granted
50:55 <PleaseGiveMeAccess> yo party fuukers
50:56 <Steven> i feel it comming
50:57 <sir_stiletto> ok… good night folks…  I'm up way past my bedtime
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51:13 <sir_stiletto> lol
51:17 <Mekkis> access denied
51:19 <Steven> i felt it comming!
51:27 <Steven> i am a prophet!
51:38 Steven is now known as Mohamed
51:55 <sir_stiletto> prophet with 6 seconds of precognition has limited usefulness
52:06 <Wrothmonk> dodge bullets?
52:07 <Mekkis> sir_stiletto, tell that to Deceased
52:16 <sir_stiletto> good night, morning or whatever is appropriate for your time zone
52:20 <Mohamed> seriously... 6s i would be an epic fist fighter!
52:21 <Mekkis> that 11/day preroll a d20 is a great ability!
52:51 <Mohamed> anyways, we can talk more on your character creation tomorrow.
52:58 <Mohamed> or whenever you show back up....
53:02 <sir_stiletto> get the precognition up to 60 seconds and you can win the lottery
53:13 <Mohamed> i Forsee a class change in your future.
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53:41 Mohamed is now known as Steven
53:47 <Mekkis> Steven, don't worry
54:09 <Mekkis> I've tried to convince him that rogue is a bad class, but he's sticking to his guns.
54:14 <Steven> I felt i made real headway into removing another rogue from PFS
54:17 <Mekkis> it's his choice
54:24 <Steven> cause... fuck they suck so bad.
55:25 <Mekkis> Steven, start pressuring the VCs into moving the Rogue into Chapter 14
55:33 <Mekkis> where they belong
56:22 <Steven> wont happen.
56:26 <Steven> without rogue we cannot have ninja
56:37 <Steven> its technically an archtype
56:43 <Mekkis> no reason Ninja needs to be in Chapter 14
57:01 <Mekkis> it IS completely specced out in UC, right?
04:19 <Mekkis> I got Animal Archive
07:24 <Steven> cool
07:32 <Steven> i got chips
08:28 <Mekkis> so yeah... rogue should be in chapter 14
08:49 <Mekkis> allow people to grandfather them in if they want
10:08 <Steven> nah... if people wanna make suboptimal builds so that everyone around them feels powerful by comparison, we gotta let em
10:30 <Mekkis> I think it's bad PR
10:57 <Mekkis> better make expert and aristocrat playable classes too then
12:39 <Steven> if they did i would totaly take a level 1 in expert
26:51 <Steven> oh yay... skull splitting migraine... room mates arguing about money
27:11 <Steven> i will give it 20 minutes and then im putting a stop to it.
27:38 <Mekkis> with a pistol or a shotgun?
27:58 <Steven> less violent... more damaging...
28:03 <Steven> i was going to use words
28:21 <Mekkis> do they understand such civilised things?
29:28 <Steven> james jacobs says no to the drawing of two daggers with spring loaded wrist sheaths
29:36 <Steven> with one swift action.
31:19 <Steven> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l7ns&page=591?Ask-James-Jacobs-ALL-your-Questions-Here#29507
32:15 * Mekkis sighs
32:23 <Mekkis> I'm divided on the issue
36:28 <Steven> I see it from both sides.  Then I look at how a ruling like that could be abused.
36:51 <Mekkis> what are your two sides?
37:37 <Steven> two weapon fighting allowing drawing of two weapons with one action vs item manipulation
38:04 <Steven> i view using a spring loaded wrist sheath as item manipulation with a specific activation method and action listed
38:18 <Steven> action speed
38:31 <Mekkis> mmm
38:55 <Steven> James jacob appears to agree with me
39:18 <Mekkis> and how could a ruling the other way be abused?
40:47 <Steven> several ways im not gonna open up.
41:36 <Steven> mostly because its irrelevant conversation thats technical and im not up for it.
42:00 <Mekkis> I view that that kind of semantics really should be limited to MtG, and that it's not unbalanced for someone doing such an action. Plus, two-weapon light-weapon fighters need all the help they can get.
43:03 <Steven> nah, they have some great combat tricks, i think they will do fine all on their own.
43:55 <Steven> Two weapon fighting, improved Sunder, w/ adamantine weapons... no weapons and armor for anyone around.
44:55 <Steven> its my buddies ninja
45:01 <Steven> its really pretty awesome.
45:18 <Wrothmonk> Hey mekkis, I have a question about WotW; are alternate racial traits allowed?
45:32 <Mekkis> I said, Maybe
45:35 <Steven> it will help your case if you name specifics
45:38 <Mekkis> be specific
46:02 <Mekkis> I think I actually said Probably
46:16 <Wrothmonk> alright, let me find the one I was looking at.
47:46 <Wrothmonk> Shaman's Apprentice, for half-orcs
48:12 <Steven> how ya gonna fit it into your backround?
48:34 <Wrothmonk> Ah fair point. I've forgotten I need to come up with that stuff.
52:04 <Wrothmonk> Well I may as well do the stat rolls now.
52:42 <Mekkis> ok
52:58 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d10+7 dex; 1d10+7 con; 1d10+7 int; 1d10+7 cha
52:58 <diebot> Wrothmonk, dex: [1d10=3] 10; con: [1d10=5] 12; int: [1d10=4] 11; cha: [1d10=6] 13
53:17 <Mekkis> dumping str or wis?
53:24 <Wrothmonk> dumping wis
53:27 <Mekkis> ok
54:54 <Wrothmonk> I was hoping I would roll a bit better than that :/
55:29 <Wrothmonk> now the question is, do I put the +2 orc racial in dex or cha for an anti paladin.
59:47 <Steven> cha gives you better saves and effects your smite good
00:07 <Steven> dex helps your AC by 1 and gives you 1 to your ref save
00:26 <Mekkis> depends on what sort of antipaladinish stuff you're doing
00:32 <Mekkis> Brunius, are you around?
00:37 <Brunius> I am
00:50 <Mekkis> will you be around for about half an hour?
00:54 <Wrothmonk> well I want melee tank guy.
01:02 <Brunius> Quite likely
01:30 <Mekkis> do you want to get your WotW stuff done in that time?
01:39 <Brunius> sure
01:45 <Wrothmonk> and I'm also going for hell knight as a prestige class.
01:53 <Wrothmonk> if that helps at all
04:24 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, how did your GMing go this morning?
04:34 <Wrothmonk> Decent I think
07:42 <Avatar> are you still doing chronicle sheets
08:26 <Mekkis> I suggest using openoffice draw. It's pretty good at that sort of thing
08:40 <Brunius> I didn't know draw could open pdfs
09:04 <Mekkis> it allows EPSes of images
11:19 <Avatar> hey I hit level 3 
11:20 <Avatar> woo !
11:29 <Mekkis> Brunius, PM
11:40 <Brunius> I noticed.
11:46 <Mekkis> you didn't respond
12:02 <Brunius> It's hard to respond to that content
12:26 <Mekkis> you're not trying hard enough
15:26 <Avatar> what did you say
15:39 <Avatar> what do you want to be when you grow up
16:30 <Avatar> man I do 2d6+4 now
16:33 <Avatar> I feel overpowered already
17:16 <Brunius> What, to one person
17:22 <Avatar> bomb
17:34 <Avatar> so to one person, then 6 or 7 damage to every surrounding square
17:41 <Brunius> Not everyone within 30 ft?
18:00 <Avatar> yeah just surrounding squares
18:07 <Avatar> cmon I'm level 3
22:20 <Avatar> An alchemist can utilize 
22:20 <Avatar> spell-trigger items if the spell appears on his formuale 
22:20 <Avatar> list, but not spell-completion items (unless he uses Use 
22:20 <Avatar> Magic Device to do so).
22:26 <Avatar> can alchemists use scrolls but not wands?
24:39 <Mekkis> wand is spell-trigger
24:44 <Mekkis> scroll is spell completion
25:17 <Avatar> so wands but not scrolls
25:21 <Mekkis> ja
25:24 <Mekkis> staves are fine
25:32 <Avatar> but they can still learn from scrolls to copy into a formula book
25:38 <Mekkis> dunno
26:25 <Avatar> An 
26:26 <Avatar> alchemist can 
26:32 <Avatar> also add formulae to his book just like a wizard adds spells to 
26:33 <Avatar> his spellbook, using the same costs and time requirements.
26:58 <Avatar> and then it specifically talks about spellbook copying as well
27:14 <Avatar> bit bizarre
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34:15 <Avatar> I might take improved initiative again on this character
37:29 <Mekkis> you're so boring Avatar 
38:14 <Avatar> that was a joke
38:16 <Avatar> I am going extra discovery
38:25 <Mekkis> take a random feat
38:35 <Mekkis> like &deathless initiate
38:39 <diebot> DEATHLESS INITIATE [Combat] For you, impending death is a call to wrath. Prerequisites: Str 13, Con 13, orc or half-orc, Diehard, Endurance, base attack bonus +6. Benefit: You are not staggered while using the Diehard feat, but if you take a move and a standard action or a full-round action while you are at 0 or fewer hit points you take 1 point of
38:39 <Avatar> as tempting as that isn't
38:39 <diebot> damage. Further, while using the Diehard feat, you gain a +2 bonus on melee attacks and damage rolls.
38:39 <diebot> Benefit:  Source: UC
39:13 <Avatar> with those diehard feats the first thing you would do is heal yourself
39:25 <Avatar> even with just diehard I think
39:27 <Avatar> why would you ever take that feat
39:39 <Avatar> !feat diehard
39:40 <diebot> Avatar, DIEHARD []Prereq:  Endurance.  You are especially hard to kill. Not only do your wounds automatically stabilize when grievously injured, but you can remain conscious and continue to act even at death's door.
39:40 <diebot> Benefit:  When your hit point total is below 0, but you are not dead, you automatically stabilize. You do not need to make a Constitution check each round to avoid losing additional hit points. You may choose to act as if you were disabled, rather than dying. You must make this decision as soon as you are reduced to negative hit points (even if
39:40 <diebot> it isn't your turn). If you do not choose to act as if you were disabled, you immediately fall unconscious. When using this feat, you are staggered. You can take a move action without further injuring yourself, but if you perform any standard action (or any other action deemed as strenuous, including some swift actions, such as casting a quickened
39:40 <diebot> spell) you take 1 point of damage after completing the act. If your negative hit points are equal to or greater than your Constitution score, you immediately die.
39:40 <diebot> Normal:  A character without this feat who is reduced to negative hit points is unconscious and dying. Source: Core
39:59 <Avatar> there you go, heal up
40:39 <Avatar> where is kapow, I could compliment his build
43:46 <Avatar> alchemists seem like incredibly easy characters to build
43:55 <Mekkis> like witches?
43:57 <Avatar> it's like they can do no wrong
44:04 <Avatar> moreso than witches
44:07 <Avatar> witches have vulnerabilities
47:21 <Mekkis> like what?
48:04 <Avatar> like undead
48:35 <Mekkis> true
48:53 <Mekkis> you can't tell an undead to SOD off. So you need to dip into your spells...
49:02 <Mekkis> how onerous
49:41 <Avatar> what spells
50:14 <Avatar> I will have none or not enough
51:44 <Mekkis> Cure Light Wounds, Ear-Piercing Screamm SUmmon monster 1
52:14 <Mekkis> Burning Gaze
52:14 <Avatar> do you think those will be enough to kill undead at level 10
52:26 <Avatar> or at level 3
52:29 <Mekkis> Glitterdust
52:52 <Mekkis> Summon Swarm
52:56 <Avatar> hopefully it's not undead heavy
53:00 <Avatar> or those spells run out
53:06 <Mekkis> then prepare them more
53:18 <Mekkis> alchemists only have like 7 bombs per day
53:24 <Avatar> I can prepare only what the hexes don't affect and still not enough 
53:38 <Avatar> yeah I haven't found out what happens when I run out of bombs yet
53:39 <Mekkis> how does the wizard get by
53:47 <Mekkis> he doesn't have an at-will SOD off
53:57 <Avatar> he has scorching ray
54:43 <Mekkis> which, to be fair, isn't a particularly good spell
54:58 <Avatar> really
55:01 <Avatar> can I tell people you said that
55:03 <Mekkis> really
55:06 <Mekkis> you can
55:08 <Avatar> you can take it back quickly if you want
55:13 <Mekkis> I won't
55:22 <Avatar> pride kills mekkis
55:24 <Avatar> pride kills
55:57 <Mekkis> under certain circumstances, scorching ray can be decent, but the amount of damage isn't particularly high
56:30 <Mekkis> In General, damaging spells aren't particularly good
57:01 <Avatar> ah
57:03 <Avatar> invisibility
57:09 <Mekkis> sure
57:16 <Mekkis> Invisibility + sneak attack helps
57:22 <Avatar> mirror image
57:27 <Mekkis> but it still isn't a particularly high amount of damage
57:38 <Avatar> I didn't say sneak attack
57:44 <Avatar> wizards don't get sneak attack
58:20 <Avatar> see invisibility
59:14 <Mekkis> yeah
59:17 <Mekkis> they're better spells
14:27 <Avatar> wondering if I should go with extra bombs instead of extra discovery
14:41 <Mekkis> for PFS?
14:49 <Avatar> yeah
14:50 <Mekkis> I thought &extra bombs could only be taken once
14:52 <diebot> EXTRA BOMBS []Prereq:  Bomb class feature.  You can throw more bombs per day.
14:52 <diebot> Benefit:  You can throw two additional bombs per day.
14:52 <diebot> Special:  You can gain Extra Bombs multiple times. Its effects stack. Source: APG
14:54 <Mekkis> oh
14:56 <Mekkis> my bad
15:30 <Mekkis> why not Point Blank / precise etc?
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15:39 <Avatar> I've already got it
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15:43 <Avatar> both of those
15:47 <Mekkis> improved precise
15:51 <Avatar> they were my human / 1st level feats
16:00 <Mekkis> or something like acid bombs
16:01 <Avatar> !feat improved precise shot
16:02 <diebot> Avatar, IMPROVED PRECISE SHOT [Combat]Prereq:  Dex 19, Point-Blank Shot, Precise Shot, base attack bonus +11.  Your ranged attacks ignore anything but total concealment and cover.
16:02 <diebot> Benefit:  Your ranged attacks ignore the AC bonus granted to targets by anything less than total cover, and the miss chance granted to targets by anything less than total concealment. Total cover and total concealment provide their normal benefits against your ranged attacks.
16:02 <diebot> Normal:  See the normal rules on the effects of cover and concealment in Combat.  Source: Core
16:12 <Avatar> acid bombs is my most likely candidate at the moment
16:22 <Avatar> kapow went with explosive bombs
16:44 <Avatar> improved precise is dumb
16:50 <Mekkis> Remote Bomb
17:19 <Mekkis> Mytaizair will take it when he hits like, level 18
17:32 <Avatar> where is remote bomb
18:10 <Mekkis> !feat Remote Bomb
18:11 <diebot> Mekkis, REMOTE BOMB []Prereq:  Delayed bomb discovery.  You can set off your delayed bombs at great distances.
18:11 <diebot> Benefit:  The maximum delay for your delayed bombs increases to a number of minutes equal to your level. If you have line of effect to your delayed bomb, you may detonate it earlier than its preset time by making a DC 20 Intelligence check; the DC increases by +1 for every 10 feet of distance between you and the bomb. Source: UM
18:50 <Avatar> I don't see it in UM?
19:20 <Avatar> p17 has preserve organs, spontaneous healing, nothing else in between
20:06 <Mekkis> p156
20:23 <Mekkis> oh whw
20:25 <Mekkis> wow!
20:37 <Mekkis> you should take &Ricochet Splash Weapon
20:37 <Avatar> oh, it's a feat
21:00 <Mekkis> !feat Ricochet Splash Weapon
21:02 <diebot> Mekkis, RICOCHET SPLASH WEAPON []Prereq:  Dex 13, Throw Anything.  Even when your thrown splash weapons miss, they are especially dangerous.
21:02 <diebot> Benefit:  Whenever your splash weapon misses and the misdirection roll indicates it lands in a square occupied by a creature, you may make an attack roll (at a –5 penalty) as if you had thrown the splash weapon at that creature. If this attack roll succeeds, the splash weapon hits and the creature takes full damage instead of splash damage.
21:02 <diebot> Squares adjacent to this creature still take splash damage as normal.
21:02 <diebot> Normal:  A thrown splash weapon that misses deals splash damage in the square where it lands and in adjacent squares. Source: UM
21:03 <Avatar> shit that is incredible
21:28 <Avatar> ah I don't have throw anything
21:39 <Mekkis> don't alchemists get it at first level?
21:48 <Avatar> in PFS it gets changed to extra bombs
21:53 <Mekkis> really?
21:59 <Mekkis> I thought that was Brew Potion
22:06 <Avatar> no wait that is brew potion
22:54 <Avatar> the only thing wrong with it is that you rarely miss and you rarely have something else it could potentially hit in the blast radius
23:37 <Avatar> it would be brilliant with explosive bomb
23:37 <Mekkis> hmmm...
23:44 <Mekkis> maybe Grolschmir will take a level of alchemist
23:52 <Mekkis> a gnome with 26 str!
23:55 <Avatar> they're not sword bombs
24:10 <Avatar> you could get sticky bombs and attach them to swords I guess
24:46 <Mekkis> I'll just throw swords
26:25 <Avatar> &splash weapon mastery isn't bad either
26:47 <Mekkis>  &splash weapon mastery
26:49 <diebot> SMASH [Combat]Prereq:  Power Attack, half-orc.  You overcome obstacles by breaking them.
26:49 <diebot> Benefit:  When you attack an inanimate, unattended object, you ignore the first 5 points of its hardness. You also receive a +5 bonus on Strength checks made to knock down or break open doors.
26:49 <diebot> Special:  The benefits of this feat do not apply to sunder attempts or attacks against constructs, only attacks on inanimate, unattended objects. Source: APG
26:49 <diebot> RICOCHET SPLASH WEAPON []Prereq:  Dex 13, Throw Anything.  Even when your thrown splash weapons miss, they are especially dangerous.
26:49 <diebot> Benefit:  Whenever your splash weapon misses and the misdirection roll indicates it lands in a square occupied by a creature, you may make an attack roll (at a –5 penalty) as if you had thrown the splash weapon at that creature. If this attack roll succeeds, the splash weapon hits and the creature takes full damage instead of splash damage.
26:49 <diebot> Squares adjacent to this creature still take splash damage as normal.
26:49 <diebot> Normal:  A thrown splash weapon that misses deals splash damage in the square where it lands and in adjacent squares. Source: UM
26:59 <Mekkis>  &splash weapon mastery
27:00 <diebot> SMASH [Combat]Prereq:  Power Attack, half-orc.  You overcome obstacles by breaking them.
27:01 <diebot> Benefit:  When you attack an inanimate, unattended object, you ignore the first 5 points of its hardness. You also receive a +5 bonus on Strength checks made to knock down or break open doors.
27:01 <diebot> Special:  The benefits of this feat do not apply to sunder attempts or attacks against constructs, only attacks on inanimate, unattended objects. Source: APG
27:19 <Mekkis> !feat splash weapon mastery
27:21 <diebot> Mekkis, IMPROVISED WEAPON MASTERY [Combat]Prereq:  Catch Off-Guard or Throw Anything, base attack bonus +8.  You can turn nearly any object into a deadly weapon, from a razor-sharp chair leg to a sack of flour.
27:21 <diebot> Benefit:  You do not suffer any penalties for using an improvised weapon. Increase the amount of damage dealt by the improvised weapon by one step (for example, 1d4 becomes 1d6) to a maximum of 1d8 (2d6 if the improvised weapon is two-handed). The improvised weapon has a critical threat range of 19–20, with a critical multiplier of ×2.
27:21 <diebot> Source: Core
27:37 <Mekkis> which book is it from?
27:43 <Avatar> adv armoury
27:47 <Mekkis> ah
27:51 <Mekkis> not prd
27:53 <Avatar> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/splash-weapon-mastery
28:47 <Avatar> I can't believe kapow's alchemist knows druidic
28:52 <Mekkis> I can
29:03 <Avatar> it's something to be jealous of
29:09 <Mekkis> yes, it is
29:28 <Mekkis> Mytaizair's still trying to find a druid to dominate
29:58 <Mekkis> (and a GM who wouldn't say that such a thing would cause him to be ejected from the society)
30:35 <Avatar> why would it
30:41 <Avatar> have people told you that
30:44 <Mekkis> some GMs consider that evil
30:51 <Mekkis> not exactly
31:10 <Avatar> I can't remember the exact circumstances, but from what I do remember it didn't sound evil
31:10 <Mekkis> but my VC is very strict on the whole "that's evil" issue
31:22 <Mekkis> in kapow's case, it wasn't
31:45 <Mekkis> but finding a druid, dominating him, and saying "Teach me druidic", might be misinterpreted
33:15 <Mekkis> in kapow's case, it was finding a fallen druid, and asking nicely
33:30 <Mekkis> but I haven't seen many fallen druids in PFS
34:50 <Mekkis> I thought you'd say the witch's weakness is the familiar
34:54 <Mekkis> you don't agree?
36:52 <Mekkis> Hmmm...
37:26 <Mekkis> If you had the Arcane bloodline, could you use &Sorcerous Bloodstrike to regain a use of your bonded item's ability?
37:54 <Mekkis> !feat Sorcerous Bloodstrike
37:56 <diebot> Mekkis, SORCEROUS BLOODSTRIKE []Prereq:  Cha 13, sorcerer bloodline class feature.  You can regain power when you kill a creature.
37:56 <diebot> Benefit:  Once per day, as an immediate action upon reducing a creature to 0 or fewer hit points with one of your sorcerer spells, you can regain one usage of a sorcerer bloodline power that has a limited number of uses per day. The slain creature must have at least half as many Hit Dice as your sorcerer level. You cannot use this feat to gain
37:56 <diebot> another usage of a bloodline power that you have not yet used today.  Source: UM
48:23 <Mekkis> why do Paladins get the best divine spells, and summoners get the best arcane spells?
52:17 <Mekkis> could I take &eclectic to make Arcane trickster a favoured class?
52:20 <diebot> ECLECTIC []Prereq:  Human.  You have a talent for picking up different vocations. 
52:20 <diebot> Benefit:  Choose an additional favored class and gain either +1 hit point or +1 skill point whenever you take a level in that class. If you choose a class in which you already have levels, the benefits of this feat are retroactive. Source: APG
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28:57 <Avatar> wish I could craft alchemical items
32:09 <Avatar> there are fairly cheap grenades that do 3d6 damage
32:19 <Avatar> 1d6 piercing, 1d6 bludgeoning, 1d6 fire
32:27 <Avatar> that come in iron, silver, cold iron and adamantine variants
32:55 <Avatar> 50-150gp per grenade depending on what you want in them
33:34 <Avatar> 10ft radius burst, explodes in 1d3 rounds
34:49 <Brunius> Can't kapow
38:45 <Avatar> don't think so?
39:00 <Avatar> it's a craft (alchemy) thing
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12:11 <Ulzef> hey guys and gals
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57:39 <Brunius> Isn't kapow an alchem
57:45 <Brunius> or is Ulzef alchem
10:44 <Mekkis> kapow 
10:49 <Mekkis> hey ulzef 
12:29 <Mekkis> I'm getting the impression that people tend to stick to a certain class or set of classes
14:30 <Ulzef> in?
15:17 <Mekkis> in pathfinder in general
15:20 <Brunius> I should try an arcane class sometime
15:56 <Ulzef> i am oracle in WotW kapow is alc
16:12 <Mekkis> Avatar seems to like witches, kapow stays with alchemists or BSFs, Mort sticks with full-casters...
16:18 <Mekkis> not sure where Brunius stands
16:28 <Brunius> This is my third cleric
16:31 <Mekkis> I seem to keep making characters who have companions
16:44 <Ulzef> and me ?
16:47 <Mekkis> not sure
16:51 <Brunius> I've never made two of any other class
16:53 <Mekkis> I don't know enough of your characters
17:06 <Brunius> Fifth cleric, if you count 3.5
17:23 <Mekkis> I think something like 70% of my characters have companions
17:27 <Ulzef> i generally prefer stealthy types or devine casters
18:23 <Ulzef> btw mekkis did you get my email?
19:03 <Mekkis> Itzamna, Kernigahn, Deceased, Heneski, Grolschmir, Arjuna have companions; Xanian, Mytiazair and my unnamed level 1 don't
19:25 <Mekkis> Heneski's companion is a familiar, so might not count
20:20 <Mekkis> yes
22:54 <Ulzef> the pdf is a way better character sheet hey
22:59 <Mekkis> it is
23:48 <Ulzef> i'll email each lvl up save you useing the gimpy text print off
23:53 <Mekkis> hey, explorers outfits aren't free :)
24:17 <Mekkis> of course, that doesn't really matter
25:09 <Ulzef> it happens by default in herolab gives you a free set of cloths
25:14 <Mekkis> are all your class skills listed?
25:27 <Mekkis> I'm still resisting using herolab
26:12 <Mekkis> I find it sets a bad precedent
26:32 <Ulzef> yeah i get the resistance its just so useful even more so when in game tracks all resources and stuff when i play online
27:10 <Mekkis> my problem is that if there's a grey area of the rules, then Someone has to make a call when they program it in...
27:31 <Ulzef> true
27:40 <Mekkis> and you don't even know that that call was made
28:17 <Ulzef> yeah i feel i know my rules well enough and i reverse engineer most stuff instictly 
28:38 <Mekkis> I agree
28:56 <Mekkis> but I also know that there are a lot of people who use herolab who don't have that background
31:08 <Ulzef> true gm's will pick most of that up though and i feel gm's should look at sheets before games
31:51 <Ulzef> i know it has issues with the shaman druids but everyone has issues with them
32:31 <Mekkis> you see, as a GM, I don't know what a shaman druid IS
33:28 <Ulzef> like lion shaman and stuff there is a conflicted rule regardingthe wild shape changes that accure with them
33:38 <Mekkis> ah
33:44 <Mekkis> I heard about that
34:01 <Ulzef> prob from me cause i rant about it every con
34:10 <Mekkis> yeah
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04:09 <Mekkis> I don't know why I'm listening to this random music I download five years ago from a russian FTP server
04:26 <Mekkis> or was it seven years ago
17:58 <Avatar> for some reason I thought conquest was next week
18:07 <Avatar> better schedule a game
18:24 <Mekkis> do you know anything about Brock's plans for Melbourne?
18:36 <Avatar> he's here a few days before conquest starts
18:49 <Avatar> doing a day of sightseeing and then bonekeep
18:57 <Mekkis> you know, other than that if I give him a Masterful Forgery boon, you'll ruin the whole thing
19:06 <Ulzef> think  he is doing a dinner the week before conquest with steven and co
19:14 <Ulzef> gitch was trying to go up for it
19:18 <Avatar> I thought it was the day before
19:28 <Avatar> I've got no interest in bonekeep
19:34 <Avatar> sounds like death galore
19:39 <Avatar> I like it on easy mode
19:41 <Mekkis> what level range?
19:50 <Avatar> not sure
19:51 <Greenguy33> 2 million
19:56 <Greenguy33> lol
20:48 <Avatar> apparently there is some awesome boon if you finish it
21:08 <Greenguy33> hey in pathfinder did they ever do that sorta " gods got booted outa the celestial realms deal like they did with forgotten realms?
21:37 <Mekkis> not to my knowledge
22:52 <Greenguy33> seemed like a lot of systems coppied that idea briefly. i know ebberon did something simmilar.
24:28 <Greenguy33> like in ebberon lolth got trapped in a sorta netherplane between ebberon and the abyss briefly.
27:44 <Mekkis> TSR stinks! Avoid it entirely! Their games are written
27:44 <Mekkis> without the least concern for organization, modularity,
27:44 <Mekkis> realism, ease of learning, or consistency of worldview.
27:44 <Mekkis> The only reason for their edge on the market is a few
27:44 <Mekkis> years' head start.
28:01 <Mekkis> time to add that to my .sig
28:27 <Ulzef> so what you thinking of running next week?
28:34 <Ulzef> avatar?
29:53 <Avatar> dunno
29:58 <Avatar> tier/scenario preference?
30:04 <Mekkis> 10-11 :)
30:07 <Mekkis> or 4-5
31:41 <Avatar> I thought I had something in mind but I forget what it was
32:55 <Ulzef> not sure if its something i can play that would be awesome but i know i am kinda  pain
34:57 <Avatar> what?
35:39 <Ulzef> was saying a mod i can play in would be awesome, however i understand i am sort of a pain to account for because i have played some many
36:23 <Avatar> yeah what tier do you need
36:25 <Avatar> or scenario
37:21 <Ulzef> 7-9 would be cool i could play Ulzef before the con. or low getting more xp on mortok would be cool
38:49 <Avatar> what level is mortok
39:05 <Ulzef> 2
39:31 <Avatar> bizarrely it looks like I've run shadow's last stand 2 but not 1
39:56 <Mekkis> 2 is a great mod for roleplaying
40:04 <Mekkis> 1 is a great mod for creating corpses
40:17 <Avatar> my enemy's enemy is the only one the two of you haven't played that I could GM
40:22 <Avatar> 3-7
40:44 <Mekkis> is that roleplay heavy?
41:39 <Avatar> half half
41:59 <Avatar> a bit like green market I guess 
43:40 <Ulzef> green market i found fairly heavy roleplay
44:17 <Avatar> yeah I dunno
44:19 <Avatar> it's about half half
44:26 <Avatar> as half as it gets
44:52 <Avatar> do you want to do that one
45:01 <Avatar> if one of you doesn't, I'll pick something else
45:39 <Ulzef> hard 3-7 is my akward tier
45:54 <Avatar> why is it awkward
46:13 <Avatar> what level is ulzef
46:40 <Ulzef> Ulzef is 8 mortok is 2 i guess i have my druid and my sorc in that tier but they are characters i am more meh about
48:55 <Avatar> if we can get one or two more 7+s in that would be good
49:29 <Avatar> what happened to simon, he was in for a couple of days wasn't he
49:30 <Mekkis> I can dust off Itzamna
53:23 <Avatar> I could just schedule a 7-11 and wait and see who signs up
53:32 <Avatar> but uh
53:42 <Avatar> there's still no good option for both of you
54:42 <Avatar> that leaves echoes of the everwar 3
54:51 <Avatar> red harvest
54:57 <Avatar> rats of round mountain 1 or 2
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55:04 <Avatar> cultist's kiss
55:06 <Avatar> and refuge of time
55:10 <Mekkis> haven't played echoes 3
55:45 <Avatar> red harvest is one I actually have the book for
59:26 <Mekkis> Grolschmir played that... to be honest, I'm not sure how Grolschmir would react to Ulzef
59:39 <Ulzef> ;) red harvest works for me
59:52 <Mort-> Hi
59:55 <Mekkis> probably with disgust, and would have a lot of fun disrespecting property rights
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