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00:00:07 <Mekkis> who's your sorcerer, Ulzef?
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00:02:01 <Damalon01> thatll be fun im sure! what games are you queued up for? do you know?
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00:02:01 <Damalon01> lol
00:02:01 <Damalon01> Ulzef is popping on and off what fun
00:02:18 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Fri 8th 6pm (tier 5-9,Avatar) || WotW: Sat 16th 1.30pm || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au .
00:02:18 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Oct 27 15:37:22 2013
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00:10:24 <Ulzef> sorry phone hates staying in here and i checked in
00:15:05 <Ulzef> thinking of spirit of freedom tshirting tomorrow
00:18:38 <Ulzef> with mekkis as my only gm i should even get a reroll with it
00:19:20 <Damalon01> hmmm i kinda want one of those t-shirts
00:22:01 <Ulzef> Mekkis, when you leaving briz ?
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00:38:21 <Ulzef> alright off to sleep see some of you tommorow
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00:38:52 <ripley> you'll see me tomorrow
00:39:09 <ripley> completely
01:25:08 <Mekkis> Avatar
01:41:06 <Damalon01> mornin
01:44:00 <Mekkis> hey hey
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01:55:00 <Damalon01> whats up?
01:56:52 <Philderbeast> preping rise of the rune lords
01:58:54 <Damalon01> ooooo i like that AP. its got some holes but its a classic idea.
01:59:19 <Damalon01> what part of Rise of the Runelords are you up too?
01:59:34 <Philderbeast> we are due to start next week
01:59:53 <Damalon01> from the start? awesome
02:00:02 <Philderbeast> yep
02:00:14 <Damalon01> im a little envious of your players
02:00:30 <Damalon01> ive only really read the first two parts
02:00:40 <Damalon01> and browsed the rest
02:01:07 <Philderbeast> it seems good so far
02:01:11 <Philderbeast> but im only in the second chapter
02:01:36 <Philderbeast> im just a little worried about how im going to balance it with a 6 player party cause im a rather inexperanced Gm
02:01:39 <Damalon01> one little problem I have with it is that i cant figure out how Justice Ironbriar casts Cat's Grace
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02:01:52 <Damalon01> hes in Skinsaw murders
02:01:58 <Philderbeast> cause the GM says so?
02:02:08 <Damalon01> hehehe
02:02:14 <Philderbeast> i havent read that far yet
02:02:20 <Philderbeast> still reading burtn offerings
02:02:35 <Damalon01> if i were gming it id prolly just give him a potion or cut that from his AC no big deal
02:03:08 <Philderbeast> yea will see how we go when we get there
02:03:17 <Philderbeast> my PC's are going to be over powered for the encounters anyway
02:03:29 <Damalon01> too high level?
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02:06:31 <Philderbeast> just being a 6 playre party and im doing 20point buy
02:06:42 <Philderbeast> im just going to level them as needed
02:11:48 <Steven> suuuuuu
02:11:51 <Steven> p
02:12:14 <Steven> so today i got a paladin to assist me in couping a dude.
02:13:14 <Steven> guy cast burning hands and put me in the cone
02:13:24 <Steven> so we beat the NPC down
02:13:37 <Steven> then i was like could you hold the Guy up?
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02:13:45 <Steven> and he was like sure....
02:13:58 <Steven> so i put my scythe on the other side of the body
02:14:05 <Steven> and the paladin was like what are you doing?
02:14:28 <Steven> "Just wanna make sure he cant get away if he wakes up!"
02:14:41 <Steven> roll a 12 on bluff
02:14:53 <Steven> paladin sense motives gets a 4
02:15:20 <Damalon01> argh
02:15:38 <Damalon01> 20 point buy is fine but 6 players will destroy most of the encounters
02:15:46 <Damalon01> at least until near the end
02:15:58 <Steven> so i then kick the dude through the Scythe, coup attempt DC86+8d6
02:16:07 <Damalon01> ive read some of the encounters at the end of the AP and they are just nuts
02:17:09 <Steven> everyone in the party was like WTF! It was awesome.
02:18:47 <Philderbeast> yea im looking to buff the encounters for them
02:19:01 <Damalon01> might be an idea early on
02:19:07 <Philderbeast> part of my prep is working out what buffs to give the encounters
02:19:57 <Damalon01> id suggest simply adding a few extra goblins and stuff
02:22:34 <Philderbeast> yea thats the plam
02:22:45 <Philderbeast> just got to work out how much to add as i go
02:26:21 <Philderbeast> im thinking ill just add 1 to the CR for most encounters that should even it out from my reading
02:43:42 <Avatar> mekkis I'm so surprised your angry email didn't change ashley's mind?
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03:01:09 <Avatar> mekkis are you about
03:05:49 <Steven> angry emails never work out really
03:24:58 <Brunius> hahahaha
03:25:12 <Brunius> I'm reading this facebook status about someones 14 year old daughter using IRC
03:25:35 <Brunius> and everyone is either going "GO BACK TO THE 90s!" or "That's how I met my partner!"
03:30:00 <Avatar> idiots
03:34:51 <Brunius> huh
03:35:00 <Brunius> it's about four years since I first logged on to IRC
03:35:29 <Brunius> I should throw a party
03:36:49 <Steven> yup....
03:36:54 <Steven> brunius is so young...
03:42:32 <Avatar> oh, uh
03:42:37 <Avatar> I got a paizo game space invite today
03:44:01 <Steven> yay!
03:44:37 <Steven> i was going to give you a key for it when they said we could give them out to people
03:44:51 <Steven> now i dont have to.
03:47:30 <Avatar> it's pretty barebones
03:47:44 <Avatar> I was going to say you could run a game with it considering how we use CA now
03:47:50 <Avatar> but you can't change or draw a background
03:48:06 <Steven> yeah, they havent been throwing all their money into it, which is a good thing imo
03:48:19 <Steven> the downside of that is that development has been slow.
03:48:43 <Avatar> it's not something they really need to invest in
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03:49:13 <Steven> not really.
03:49:33 <Steven> I do like it a lot more now than i did when it first came out.
03:49:37 <Steven> should have seen the bug reports.
03:49:44 <Steven> Pages upon pages upon pages long.
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03:52:04 <Steven> used to have a bug in it when you used one of the tools that you couldnt unselect the tool
03:52:17 <Mekkis> not really. There's a bit of extra stuff, but it's more incidental
03:52:18 <Steven> so you ended up making lines all over the map lol
03:52:27 <Avatar> link it over
03:52:34 <Mekkis> as in, it's "honest mistake", not "screw the players"
03:52:43 <Avatar> yeah that's fine
03:53:53 <Steven> Think brock is off vacation on monday.
03:56:23 <Mekkis> http://pastebin.com/kg18Spwp
03:57:21 <Avatar> Philderbeast: you know you can play a level 7 pregen for that game next friday if you want
03:57:26 <Brunius> oh yeah
03:57:28 <Steven> yo
03:57:32 <Brunius> it's a public holiday on tuesday
03:57:34 <Avatar> mr steven
03:57:53 <Steven> thats Mr. Steven the Magnificent!
03:58:02 <Avatar> mr steven is fine
03:58:29 <Steven> Mr. Steven the Magnificent!!
03:58:33 <Brunius> oh yeah what's on friday
03:58:40 <Steven> no really i've been called that by people at the shop
03:59:06 <Avatar> the fabric of reality
03:59:13 <Brunius> wonder if I've played that one
03:59:24 <Avatar> did you get an email
03:59:33 <Brunius> yeah
03:59:48 <Brunius> 4-16
03:59:52 <Brunius> probably haven't then
04:00:15 <Brunius> it sounds familiar from the blurb
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04:00:42 <Steven> finished up the Evil Boons for my wizard tonight.
04:00:50 <Brunius> product review mentions a finish to the arc so it's probably just that I've played the earlier ones
04:01:08 <Brunius> what are the ones in the hao-jin tapestry arc?
04:01:46 <Avatar> it's not part of an arc
04:01:55 <Steven> now just gonna run Waking rune
04:02:12 <Steven> and my wizard is all buttoned up.
04:02:56 <Brunius> uh
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04:03:02 <Brunius> the blurb looks like it's part of an arc
04:03:12 <Brunius> is it not regarding the hao-jin tapestry?
04:03:54 <Avatar> yeah but it's not really part of the hao jin tapestry's "arc"
04:04:11 <Avatar> it just elaborates on the season 3 plot
04:09:48 <Brunius> guys
04:09:51 <Brunius> just a quick heads up
04:09:56 <Brunius> being sick sucks
04:09:57 <Brunius> a lot
04:10:59 <Steven> i know the feelin mang
04:11:10 <CWheezy> I don't think it is a grey area for krune btw
04:11:16 <CWheezy> hmmm
04:11:23 <CWheezy> is what I am about to say a spoiler?
04:11:35 <Steven> probably
04:11:38 <CWheezy> that krune is a wizard
04:12:14 <Brunius> smooth
04:12:20 <Steven> i left so i didnt see the spoiler
04:12:43 <CWheezy> you can read the scenario description and get the same spoiler I think
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04:20:29 <Damalon01> i hope i get to play, id like to see how you gets do your online games
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04:29:02 <Avatar> just need the players
04:43:01 <Damalon01> yeah. well heres hoping.
04:44:28 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> So it is brunius
04:45:50 <Brunius> are there any PFS scenarios set on the high seas?
04:46:01 <Avatar> qfp
04:46:07 <Steven> several
05:02:10 <Damalon01> i want all of the pirate scenarios
06:05:04 <Steven> hey avatar
06:05:08 <Steven> im not bored as shit right now
06:12:58 <Brunius> !rng DarkAngel Dawn78 Dawn04 DW05 Dune EventHorizon
06:12:59 <diebot> Brunius, DW05
06:13:07 <Brunius> the dice have spoken
06:23:25 <Bloodlust> yo
06:24:32 <Avatar> yo
06:24:40 <Avatar> when's a good start time for you bloodlust
06:24:43 <Avatar> on friday evenings
06:24:53 <Bloodlust> at least after 4pm man
06:24:53 <Avatar> our other ones have been at 6 from what I remember
06:25:00 <Avatar> ohhh daylight savings.
06:25:12 <Bloodlust> yeah you've set it for 3pm
06:25:24 <Bloodlust> I don't know off untol 2:40pm and have a 45 min drive home
06:25:41 <Bloodlust> bach typos
06:25:55 <Avatar> can you do 3.30
06:26:00 <Avatar> with leniency
06:26:54 <Bloodlust> it will be TIGHT
06:27:05 <Bloodlust> what VTT will you be using?
06:27:08 <Avatar> will basically mean I can read out the intro and you'll hear it and you'll all have time to prep
06:27:18 <Avatar> CA, that's still all I know how to use
06:27:42 <Avatar> very sweet boon on this scenario
06:28:08 <Avatar> I'll only roll it forward to 3.30 if you're willing
06:28:43 <Bloodlust> I'd be willing
06:28:55 <Bloodlust> you nee dto learn roll20 dude, I've run two modules on it now - it's not hard at all
06:29:18 <Bloodlust> I like some sweet poon, err boon ;)
06:34:05 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm about no
06:34:07 <Mekkis> w
06:38:47 <Avatar> [00:32] <Mekkis> Avatar, have you sent the email?
06:38:47 <Avatar> [06:29] <Avatar> no
06:57:01 <Mekkis> when are you sending it?
07:25:13 <Mekkis> Steven, what do you do when a VC violates Run as Written?
07:25:41 <Steven> talk to VC
07:26:08 <Mekkis> he didn't seem to think there was a problem
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07:35:05 <Damalon01> oooo are you talkin about Stephen White Mekkis?
07:35:28 <Mekkis> no
07:36:19 <Mekkis> Stephen White is a very good VC, and I am not implying anything ill about him
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07:42:25 <Damalon01> cool i only wondered. Isnt he the only VC in Australia?
07:42:44 <Brunius> nah, they're all over the place now
07:42:51 <Brunius> there's 4-5 I think
07:42:53 <Mekkis> he WAS
07:43:18 <Damalon01> really? i did not know that. well i think hes the only one ive met.
07:43:27 <Damalon01> could be wrong, i often am :P
07:43:38 <Mekkis> but now there's Daniel Flood in Queensland, Al Rigg in NSW except Queanbyan and Jerrabomberra, and Some Guy in WA
07:43:53 <Damalon01> ah cewl
07:44:01 <Mekkis> and Ben Jordan in ACT (and I'm assuming Queanbyan and Jerrabomberra)
07:44:30 <Mekkis> otherwise Ben Jordan will be unique amoung VCs - a VC who doesn't live in the territory he's responsible for
07:48:39 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you get my email?
08:02:33 <Avatar> there's no point sending anything to ashley man
08:02:42 <Avatar> he's made it clear he's not even willing to reconsider at all
08:03:03 <Avatar> he thinks the first retcon made up for all the others
08:03:49 <Avatar> you're frustrating yourself by trying and getting more rejections from him
08:05:55 <Mekkis> I'll send it regardless
08:06:08 <Mekkis> I can punch him in the face tomorrow :S
08:06:19 <Steven> that will not solve anything.
08:06:31 <Mekkis> depends how hard I punch him
08:10:30 <Avatar> Spaceshot_XperiaZ: happy birthday
08:11:03 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> That was loud on the tablet
08:11:15 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> And danka
08:12:50 <Steven> one more game and i'll be level 11 and can finally cast Contigancy.
08:13:22 <Damalon01> what are ya gonna load in that Contingency Steven?
08:13:40 <Steven> some fun stuff.
08:14:09 <Steven> but very likely Vampiric Touch
08:16:26 <Steven> i did it twice today. was fun.
08:21:43 <Mekkis> Steven, any suggestions on items Kernighan should have for Bonekeep
08:21:47 <Mekkis> Bonekeep 2
08:22:22 <Steven> a diamond worth 5k
08:23:07 <Mekkis> I believe that prevention is better than cure
08:27:31 <Steven> that is prevention. It prevents you from having to go anywhere once you die.
08:27:47 <Steven> well so long as someone prepped the spell.
08:27:53 <Steven> you could also just buy a scroll of it.
08:28:02 <Mekkis> bonekeep 2 is 3-7
08:28:06 <Mekkis> noone can prep it
08:28:12 <Mekkis> regardless, it's not prevention
08:28:32 <Mekkis> prevention is casting Delay Poison so you don't get poisoned in-combat
08:28:36 <Steven> it is. you just dont know it is yet.
08:28:49 <Mekkis> prevention is casting Resist Energy before getting fireballed
09:04:42 <Mekkis> !spell summon totem creature
09:04:45 <diebot> Mekkis, SUMMON TOTEM CREATURE conjuration (summoning[]) cleric 3, druid 3, ranger 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, summoner 3 10 minutes Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Comp: V, S, M/DF (a piece of bone from any one of your totem animals) Duration: 1 hour (D) Save: none SR:noSource: Humans Of Golarion
09:04:46 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/summon_totem_creature.html
09:05:25 <Damalon01> i agree with Mekkis, prevention is better than cure. Unfortunately prevention often requires prior knowledge.
09:07:27 <Damalon01> as for buying res, i wouldnt do that. I dont believe in Ressing characters. Id just make a new character.
09:07:50 <Damalon01> if i lost too many characters id just quit PFS.
09:08:18 <Mekkis> that's what prestige is for
09:08:49 <Damalon01> hmmm i suppose. I just dont like resurrection. cheapens the consequences of loosing.
09:09:14 <Mekkis> what I've done is gone over the cleric spell list and got scrolls of anything that might be useful
09:09:32 <Damalon01> a character death should be dramatic, resurrection kills that drama
09:23:55 <Steven> character deaths are still dramatic.
09:24:19 <Steven> so long as the player incorporates it into the character.
09:26:12 <Mekkis> !spell summon ancestral guardian
09:26:12 <diebot> Mekkis, SUMMON ANCESTRAL GUARDIAN conjuration (summoning[]) bard 3, cleric 3 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Comp: V, S, F/DF (stone or metal image of your ancestor) Duration: 1 round/level Save: none SR:yesSource: DwarvesOfGolarion
09:26:12 <diebot> You call the spirits of two ancestors to manifest in the mortal world and attack your enemies. Each appears as a transparent image of a powerful, wise dwarf armed with a traditional dwarven weapon of your choice. These spirits move and attack at your direction, each having the abilities of a spiritual weapon, except they can attack different
09:26:12 <diebot> targets and deal physical damage (bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing, according to the weapon the spirit wields) instead of force damage. Like creatures conjured with a summon monster spell, your ancestors are not harmed if these manifestations are destroyed.
09:26:24 <Damalon01> hmmm thats true if it only happens once or twice Steven, but if it happens too often it truly does kill the drama
09:26:37 <Steven> nah
09:26:49 <Steven> I know a guy whos got 13 character deaths on one character
09:27:49 <Steven> the guy is a fearless paladin who isnt afraid of death. cause they meet each other like every 3rd scenario, they grab coffee and a scone. Its halarious.
09:30:50 <Yiroep> One of our local VLs has 12 deaths on his ninja. The ninja is level 15 now, but still....
09:32:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, have you sent the email?
09:46:24 <Damalon01> lol thats interesting reasoning. you could argue that accepting resurrection so often is defiance of the gods and of celestia. Yes as a Paladin you have a duty but death ends that duty, more so service to the gods and celestia goes beyond death. You are defying celestia/the gods by refusing to join them. Afterall when a Paladin dies he/she becomes a partitioner in Celestia and on the fast track
09:46:24 <Damalon01> to becoming a Celestial themselves.
09:50:11 <Mekkis> There are definitely ways of working death and resurrection into a character.
09:50:33 <Mekkis> I prefer my characters to evolve rather than being planned out, and they do develop... quirks
09:50:59 <Mekkis> Kernigahn, for instance, is so paranoid about disease that he prepares and casts Delay Disease every day
09:51:58 <Damalon01> evolution of a character is possible without resurrection
09:52:35 <Damalon01> in fact i would view it as a chance for other players/characters to evolve when they see a fellow PC go down and stay down.
09:52:42 <Ulzef> hey gius
09:54:02 <Damalon01> hey Ulzef
09:54:08 <Ulzef> and another convo bites the dust due to ulzef logging in
09:54:14 <Damalon01> lol
09:54:19 <Ulzef> hey dama how is things
09:56:48 <Mekkis> I never said it was
09:56:54 <Mekkis> hey Ulzef
09:56:58 <Mekkis> up in Sunny Brisbane?
09:57:24 <Ulzef> yeah just got in in the way to the motel
09:58:00 <Ulzef> a out 5 mins off
09:58:22 <Mekkis> got the special yet?
09:58:25 <Damalon01> things are going well enough Ylzef. you?
09:58:30 <Ulzef> if the cabbies gps is accurate how bout yaself
09:58:33 <Damalon01> Ulzef sorry
09:58:54 <Ulzef> yeah preped and ready
09:59:09 <Ulzef> and yeah good dama paizo con oz tomorrow booya
10:01:55 <Damalon01> thatll be fun im sure! what games are you queued up for? do you know?
10:02:05 <Damalon01> lol
10:02:21 <Damalon01> Ulzef is popping on and off what fun
10:11:00 <Ulzef> sorry phone hates staying in here and i checked in
10:15:41 <Ulzef> thinking of spirit of freedom tshirting tomorrow
10:19:14 <Ulzef> with mekkis as my only gm i should even get a reroll with it
10:19:56 <Damalon01> hmmm i kinda want one of those t-shirts
10:22:38 <Ulzef> Mekkis, when you leaving briz ?
10:38:58 <Ulzef> alright off to sleep see some of you tommorow
10:39:28 <ripley> you'll see me tomorrow
10:39:45 <ripley> completely
15:30:15 <Avatar> no
15:52:59 <ReaperSage> hello
16:06:19 <Avatar> reaper
16:15:19 <ReaperSage> hey
16:36:35 <Avatar> reaper
17:18:18 <Brunius|M> Reaper
18:38:30 <ReaperSage> hey again
18:53:50 <Ulzef> hello people
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20:29:31 <Avatar> yeah I'll get to it
20:32:47 <Bloodlust> well that gives you three players
20:35:35 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm surprised he responded
20:36:07 <Bloodlust> who, me?
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20:51:23 <Avatar> no mekkis sent an angry email to ashley about waking rune after ashley had said his decision on it was final
20:51:31 <Avatar> and if we wanted to change it we should escalate it
20:51:38 <Mekkis> he said a little more than that
20:51:47 <Mekkis> he admitted he was incompetent as a GM
20:52:12 <Mekkis> and how he doesn't think that doing what he did was a serious problem
20:56:22 <Mekkis> Steven, is there any way at ALL that any interpretation of /limited wish/ would result in a /plane shift/ effect without an attack roll?
20:58:08 <Avatar> just relax man
20:58:20 <Avatar> once we get the facts to mike/john they should sort us out
20:58:29 <Avatar> drilling everyone won't help
20:58:33 <Mekkis> what are you waiting for?
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21:06:17 <Mekkis> ooh
21:06:20 <Mekkis> Ballig exists
21:09:37 <Mekkis> it's because I've left the state :)
21:10:39 <Avatar> I'm waiting for ulzef's list
21:20:52 <Bloodlust> okay, I'm back
21:21:17 <mannequin> hey mate finally made it
21:22:12 <Bloodlust> Ashley who?
21:22:20 <Mekkis> LeGet
21:22:27 <Bloodlust> oh him
21:22:35 <Bloodlust> yeah, the guy i'm not going to Gm for again
21:22:48 <Mekkis> you GMed for him?
21:22:54 <Bloodlust> yup
21:23:00 <Mekkis> online?
21:23:01 <Bloodlust> Godsmouth Heresy
21:23:08 <Bloodlust> yup
21:23:13 <Mekkis> what happened?
21:23:15 <Bloodlust> never again
21:23:45 <Bloodlust> well the secret doors (of which there are a lot) I couldn't reveal
21:24:10 <Bloodlust> so I'd reveal what I could and he'd ask what was in that corner
21:24:12 <Bloodlust> I told him it was a solid wall
21:24:49 <Bloodlust> He'd go to the exact square and say, "Okay I take 20 checking for secret doors on that section of the wall"
21:25:17 <Bloodlust> more than once
21:25:21 <Mekkis> yay
21:25:28 <mannequin> lol
21:25:39 <Mekkis> and you didn't say "Stop metagaming"?
21:25:45 <Bloodlust> "Why are you spending 2 minutes searching one section of wall"
21:25:57 <Bloodlust> "Oh I think it's a logical place for a secret door"
21:26:01 <Bloodlust> No, I did
21:26:06 <Bloodlust> he claimed he wasn't
21:26:13 <Bloodlust> I personally believe he'd read the module
21:26:34 <Mekkis> that's likely
21:26:38 <Bloodlust> As other things looked really suss too
21:27:47 <Bloodlust> So from my first GM'ing experience I nearly swore never to do it again
21:28:37 <Bloodlust> I would never trust him to run a game
21:28:43 <Bloodlust> Let alone Waking Rune
21:34:15 <Bloodlust> Sounds like we both had an interesting experience with him
21:35:27 <Bloodlust> Anyone here played Bonekeep?
21:35:29 <Mekkis> yeah
21:35:56 <Mekkis> he ran Race for runecarved key for us, and tried to kill us in boxtext
21:36:14 <Bloodlust> I'm signed up for it with my witch but I'm concerned with a name like "Bonekeep" it's going to be full of undead (a witch's nightmare)
21:36:37 <Mekkis> where?
21:36:49 <Mekkis> if your witch doesn't have a way of dealing with undead, then you're doing it wrong
21:36:53 <Bloodlust> aethercon
21:37:05 <Bloodlust> open to suggestions :)
21:37:23 <Mekkis> I don't feel that I should give out any spoilers for bonekeep
21:37:35 <Bloodlust> no, just undead in general
21:37:41 <Bloodlust> you said I'm doing it wrong
21:38:46 <Mekkis> I don't know how to play a witch
21:38:58 <Mekkis> but any character with that sort of gaping hole is don't it wrong
21:39:35 <Bloodlust> it is their weakness
21:40:02 <Bloodlust> maybe I could do buffs as opposed to debuffs
21:40:14 <Mekkis> I'm sure that the GMs will be happy with that
21:40:17 <Mekkis> as will the players
21:42:02 <Bloodlust> I don't have much in the way of buffs though
21:42:07 <Bloodlust> I went the debuffing route
21:42:30 <Bloodlust> He's been really effective so far, especially with glitterdust
21:50:04 <Mekkis> spells are cheap
21:50:14 <mannequin> no joke
21:53:36 <Avatar> what's no joke
21:53:57 <Bloodlust> yeah, maybe I should invest in some buffing spells or something
21:54:21 <Avatar> if you go into bonekeep you will die
21:54:49 <Mekkis> how would you know, Avatar?
21:54:58 <Avatar> common knowledge
21:55:04 <mannequin> nah
21:55:09 <mannequin> cheap
21:55:18 <mannequin> knowledge
21:55:27 <Avatar> what?
21:55:45 <Bloodlust> why die?
21:56:03 <Avatar> it's a scenario made for munchkin characters
21:57:02 <Bloodlust> like summoners and sligers?
21:57:09 <Bloodlust> *slingers
21:57:40 <Avatar> no like a properly built munchkin
21:57:53 <Avatar> with combined abilities that werern't intended to go together
21:57:59 <Avatar> that kind of thing
21:59:26 <Mekkis> heresy
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22:12:40 <Bloodlust> I hearit is wave after wave of mindless undead
22:12:48 <Bloodlust> so cast hide from undead and watch thema ll go by lol
22:18:13 <Avatar> I don't think it's quite that simple
22:19:55 <Bloodlust> dang lol
22:22:22 <Mekkis> no comment
22:26:26 <Bloodlust> so mysterious
22:26:48 <Bloodlust> I've only heard of one group making it through but that had two channeling clerics who pounde dthem
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22:34:59 <Mekkis> !item Feather token, fan
22:35:02 <diebot> Mekkis, FEATHER TOKEN, FAN [strong conjuration] CL:12 none 200gp, 0lb
22:35:03 <diebot> Each of these items is a small feather that has a power to suit a special need. The kinds of tokens are described below. Each token is usable once. A particular feather token has no specific features to identify it unless its magic aura is viewed-even tokens with identical powers can be wildly different in appearance. Fan: A token that forms a huge
22:35:03 <diebot> flapping fan, causing a breeze of sufficient strength to propel one ship (about 25 mph). This wind is not cumulative with existing wind speed. The token can, however, be used to lessen existing winds, creating an area of relative calm or lighter winds (but wave size in a storm is not affected). The fan can be used for up to 8 hours. It does not
22:35:03 <diebot> function on land. Source: PFRPG Core
22:35:45 <Mekkis> !item soul soap
22:35:45 <diebot> Mekkis, SOUL SOAP [faint abjuration] CL:1 none 200gp, 2lb
22:35:46 <diebot> This small bar of coarse gray soap has tiny pieces of ash, coal, or hard earth embedded in it, leaving anyone washed with it as dirty as before. Washing a creature with the soap requires water and takes 1 minute, after which the creature can attempt a new Will saving throw against any hostile ongoing mind-affecting effect currently affecting it.
22:35:46 <diebot> Unwilling creatures must be pinned or otherwise made helpless before they can be washed. The soap is sufficient to wash one creature. Source: Ultimate Equipment
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23:18:06 <Steven> suuuuuuuuup
23:18:54 <Yiroep> Yo.
23:19:33 <Yiroep> I can't decide on a level 8 spell for my oracle of life. Probably just gonna settle on summon monster 8.
23:20:12 <Yiroep> Although Divine Vessel and Holy Aura are kind of cool...but Divine Vessel isn't that great for him and I can just summon something with Holy Aura.
23:21:12 <Steven> Euphoric Tranquility?
23:21:20 <Yiroep> I don't like breaking my invisibility. :p
23:21:26 <Yiroep> But that is a hell of a spell.
23:21:31 <Steven> damn right it is.
23:21:51 <Steven> and at that level most things have a way to easily see invisible creatures
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23:22:14 <Yiroep> That's why I bought him 5 scrolls of mind blank, lmao.
23:24:19 <Yiroep> Summon Monster 8 makes the most sense for him I guess. He has augment summoning and I'm planning on this level 17 feat to be superior summoning.
23:24:39 <Steven> thats nice but its always a DC20 perception to notice an invisible creature is around.
23:25:39 <Yiroep> Uh, that's not written in perception, it's +20.
23:25:43 <Yiroep> Not just DC 20.
23:25:58 <Yiroep> But anyway, he never travels alone or scouts. He's always with the party.
23:26:06 <Steven> its in game mastery
23:26:51 <Steven> A creature can generally notice the presence of an active invisible creature within 30 feet with a DC 20 Perception check
23:27:17 <Steven> you cant pin point, but its like oh i hear footsteps... well dont that beat all.
23:27:24 <Steven> i bet theres something invisible around.
23:27:33 <Yiroep> Yeah, but they still don't know exactly where I am.
23:27:46 <Yiroep> And like I said, there's gonna be other people around in battle. He doesn't go alone.
23:28:07 <Yiroep> They're gonna know we're coming either way.
23:28:40 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> What's happening?
23:28:57 <Yiroep> He was always trying to stay within 30 ft of the witch so he could lifesense the witch. :p
23:29:06 <Yiroep> Since the witch was usually invisibile too.
23:29:35 <Steven> how bout create demiplane
23:29:50 <Steven> do you have planeshift? lol
23:29:54 <Yiroep> I got a scroll of that and use my mnemonic vestment.
23:29:56 <Yiroep> Yeah I have plane shift.
23:30:31 <Yiroep> I know I'm a cheese monkey...I have 4 mnemonic vestments...heh.
23:31:21 <Steven> i dont care, other people hate that shit not me. You wanna buy 2-4 of the same item go for it.
23:31:39 <Yiroep> Haha.
23:33:12 <Yiroep> So can you just plane shift into your demiplane? It's really strange because plane shift says you end up miles from your target.
23:33:30 <Yiroep> But your demiplane isn't going to be miles long. :p
23:34:02 <Steven> so you would end up somewhere randomly on your plane
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23:34:18 <Steven> just dont create any volcanos and you should be good lol
23:34:21 <Yiroep> That makes sense to me. It's just strange there isn't wording about it.
23:34:39 <Yiroep> I think I may draw up my demi-plane beforehand in case we decide to go to it. :p
23:35:13 <Steven> well sadly thats because in PFS you cant make the demiplane permanent unless you run a very specific game.
23:35:45 <Yiroep> Yup.
23:35:57 <Steven> anyway, another amazing spell is orb of the void i think its called.
23:36:23 <Yiroep> I don't like fort save spells, but it IS good.
23:36:49 <Steven> yeah at this level they are making 16 fort saves at the least.
23:36:57 <Steven> so, not horrible.
23:37:31 <Yiroep> If only it were reflex! But then it would be too good, haha.
23:38:02 <Yiroep> I bought a strand of normal prayer beads as my big purchase this level so I can count as level 20 for greater magic weapon and magic vestment for the +5's. :p
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23:44:08 <Steven> my character considered getting the regalia of heaven, but there arent very many decent spells with the good descriptor.
23:45:10 <Bloodlust> Is anyone here a VO?
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23:45:58 <Steven> kapow is.
23:46:00 <Bloodlust> oops, wrong button
23:49:54 <Bloodlust> I've lots the details for one of my characters
23:50:24 <Bloodlust> I have their chronicle sheets 9only a few) but I can't for the life of me remember what they hell they were (lots the character sheets)
23:50:52 <Bloodlust> *LOST not lots
23:50:56 <Bloodlust> damn I did that twice
23:51:30 <Bloodlust> he didn't die or anything, I just stopped playing him when I started playing something else and he got forgotten about
23:51:40 <Bloodlust> Wondering what I should do with him
23:51:53 <Steven> look up the gms on the paizo website and contact them to get a reissue of the sheets.
23:51:56 <Yiroep> Were his games recorded online?
23:52:02 <Yiroep> Cause then you can see what he's played.
23:52:36 <Bloodlust> I have the chronicle sheets - that's not the problem.
23:52:47 <Yiroep> Oh lost the character sheet?
23:52:53 <Yiroep> Do you remember most of what he was?
23:52:54 <Bloodlust> I don't have the character sheets - that file has been deleted
23:53:02 <Bloodlust> I don't remember at all
23:53:10 <Bloodlust> I'm on my 9th character now and he ws #4
23:53:43 <Yiroep> Not even class or scthick or anything?
23:54:19 <Bloodlust> nope
23:54:33 <Yiroep> I don't know what to tell ya then, lol.
23:54:45 <Bloodlust> Yeah, I'm a bit mystified myself
23:55:03 <Steven> so do you have the chronicle sheets.
23:55:11 <Bloodlust> I forgot all about him until I found his chronicle sheets and I've been trying to remember what he was
23:55:14 <Bloodlust> yes
23:55:24 <Yiroep> You could look at the sheets and see if any of the purchases jog your memory?
23:55:32 <Steven> yeah.
23:55:47 <Yiroep> I mean, remembering mostly what he was is probably the best thing you could do right now.
23:58:46 <Yiroep> I know the 3rd character I made for PFS I hated...I wish I could forget him. :p
23:59:24 <Bloodlust> Do I just rebuild him?
23:59:57 <Bloodlust> Looks like I must have been saving up for something because the only thing I can see I bought was some arrows
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