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00:18:15 <coppice_> Halcyon: more people can read Chinese than any other language.
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00:55:04 <rust_collector> that is just propaganda. no one knows that stuff
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01:29:20 <Ampera> coppice_, anyone with functioning eyes can read Chinese, it's just that a smaller subset of those people can understand it
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01:36:00 <coppice_> Ampera: a pretty big subset. even some of us whities can do it moderately well
01:37:03 <Ampera> coppice_, smaller != small, the subset is smaller than the total number of people with functioning eyes, that doesn't mean it's small
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05:17:30 <rust_collector> yaay! my trailer is full of garbage again.
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05:34:15 <Ampera> rust_collector, any rust for your collection?
05:36:24 <rust_collector> not much.... just....garbage
05:36:34 <Ampera> :/
05:36:38 <rust_collector> yeah
05:36:39 <Ampera> any of it interesting?
05:37:59 <rust_collector> I guess it depends on your interests. mostly cardboard, an old p4, a burnt crispy nvidia card, and random car parts
05:38:49 <Ampera> how interesting is the P4?
05:39:00 <Ampera> and did the nvidia card use to be interesting?
05:40:08 <rust_collector> hmm, it is a late hp p4, it used sata drives, 3ghz. iIrc, the motherboard had hp and "big red truck" printed on it, which was interesting enough
05:40:33 <rust_collector> the card was a gtx760 I think it was
05:40:33 <Ampera> OEM P4 and a toasted nvidia card
05:40:38 <Ampera> 760/
05:40:44 <Ampera> alright I guess not that interesting
05:40:44 <Ampera> :/
05:40:49 <rust_collector> not very
05:41:25 <rust_collector> I did like that p4. I used it out in the garage, until I found a very small core duo machine to replace it with
05:41:58 <rust_collector> the nvidia card overheated, which melted the hotglue inside, so it glued the fans, lol
05:42:43 <Ampera> lol
05:45:13 <rust_collector> so, now I am updating my thinkpad install, I am going to try the unofficial software for my owon usb scope on it. If that works, I could dedicate the windows machine to only do the car diagnostics stuff
05:47:57 <rust_collector> hmm, I made bread today. that is something
05:48:35 <rust_collector> turns out my yeast was waaay out of date, so they did not rise much. but they came out ok-ish
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06:03:51 <Lemon> well I played pokemon
06:04:13 <rust_collector> YAAY!
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06:04:30 <rust_collector> did you... get whatever you do in pokemon?
06:04:48 <NYO123> hello
06:04:59 <rust_collector> hullo
06:05:12 <Lemon> hello !
06:05:13 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Lemon!
06:05:18 <rust_collector> hah
06:05:20 <Lemon> well I played a good 4-5 hours I think
06:05:26 <rust_collector> it's alive!
06:05:32 <NYO123> anyone got a time to help me with this SMPS problem?
06:05:54 <Ampera> morning, except it's not
06:06:41 <rust_collector> I do not know much about them, but if you ask, I guess someone might see it, it can take some time, as people live in the wrong timezones and such
06:07:09 <rust_collector> what is the problem?
06:09:00 <NYO123> The expected output voltageis +32V, but all I get is around 1V
06:09:13 <NYO123> could it be the feedback causing the proble,?
06:10:34 <rust_collector> what kind of power supply is this? is it a power brick, or a lab power, or?
06:11:09 <NYO123> I can send a .pdf file of the schematic if you are interested to help me figure it out, literally stuck on it for days
06:11:22 <NYO123> It is a power supply for an amplifier
06:12:37 <rust_collector> well, I do not know much about these things....
06:13:15 <NYO123> Any recommendations where I can inquire about these problems?
06:14:23 <rust_collector> hmm, well, there is a forum... or you can see if anyone here, that know stuff, comes around.
06:14:52 <rust_collector> is this a bought amplifier?
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06:19:37 <rust_collector> well, if you can post the pdf somewhere, I can always have a look, but don't expect too much, lol
06:20:19 <rust_collector> mamalala, are you into smps things?
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06:24:49 <NYO123> Actually this is a Philips FWP3100 music box
06:26:01 <NYO123> And it has a pdf file which is very well documented
06:26:25 <NYO123> heres the link to the original pdf
06:26:26 <NYO123> https://elektrotanya.com/philips_fwp3100_05_55_sm.pdf/download.html#dl
06:34:12 <rust_collector> have you tried disconnecting the other boards, so you have only the power supply board?
06:36:06 <Lemon> I posted on eevblog to ask some questions about OCXO's, the FA-2 counter im getting, gpsdo's in general etc
06:36:27 <NYO123> yep already did that, when I put my multimeter across the 32V rail, it only shows 1V at most
06:36:46 <rust_collector> do you get the 12 and 5v lines?
06:36:57 <NYO123> yes I have the 12 and 5v lines
06:38:34 <NYO123> in fact I connected the 5v line to the optocoupler to simulate "turn on" so that it would not be on stand-by mode
06:41:14 <NYO123> when I connected the 5v line to the optocoupler, I can hear the switching noise, maybe due to the slow frequency??
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06:54:44 <rust_collector> oh, I don't know. i might read the numbers wrong, but have you seen this stuff: https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/822986/Sanken/SSC620D/1 And does the chip get what that thing says it should see?
06:55:12 <rust_collector> page 6 and 7 or so
07:05:01 <NYO123> Yeah I did, I am really stuck on there cause I can't read Japanese, although maybe the chip isn't bad? cause when I did not connected the 5v rail to the optocoupler, the 32V rail shows 0V
07:05:27 <Lemon> hey rust_collector
07:05:33 <NYO123> The moment I connect it the 5v rail to simulate "ON" I can hear that switching noise and the ouput hovers around 1V
07:05:35 <Lemon> you remember that video from learnelectronics about oscillators you sent me ?
07:06:27 <NYO123> btw I don't have access to oscilloscope so, poor me! its 4:06AM here in the Philippines and this thing is driving me crazy! hahaha
07:08:17 <rust_collector> Lemon, yes?
07:08:26 <Lemon> can you send it again please ? :>
07:08:32 <Lemon> I cant find it
07:08:34 <rust_collector> Lemon, yes
07:09:18 <rust_collector> NYO123, I think you could do with a dmm for at least most of the quick tests there?
07:10:02 <Lemon> thanks rusty
07:10:10 <Lemon> ima try some stuff with random oscillators I have here
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07:11:12 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgx5irXXSFQ
07:11:37 <rust_collector> philipines... why do you send a pdf in hungarian then?
07:11:42 <Lemon> thanks bud
07:11:57 <rust_collector> maybe it was part2, I do not remember
07:12:25 <rust_collector> but that is good
07:12:35 <rust_collector> do stuff with random things you have
07:13:12 <rust_collector> I just got my crappy usb scope working in linux, so thanks to eevblarrgh forum for that
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07:29:16 <rust_collector> Lemon,
07:29:18 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blalAktxFoI
07:29:20 <rust_collector> ?
07:35:56 <Lemon> ha lemme watch it
07:36:04 <Lemon> I tried it with a random 2.4mhz I had
07:36:05 <Lemon> Mhz
07:36:23 <Lemon> I managed to look the square wave, and measure it with a wonky cable mod on the counter
07:36:39 <Lemon> remember, every adapters I bought are stuck with mondial relay
07:36:46 <rust_collector> oh, the wonky cable mod... ok
07:37:04 <rust_collector> classic!
07:37:33 <Lemon> yes, a bnc to security banana thingies, then two security thingies to regular banana cables, to crocodile clips
07:37:44 <Lemon> a good 3.5 meters of cable
07:37:52 <Lemon> also I posted that https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/ocxos-and-friends/
07:38:04 <rust_collector> sounds ideal for that kind of stuff, lol
07:39:51 <Lemon> yeah not the best
07:39:58 <Lemon> I cant wait to get everything honestly
07:40:05 <Lemon> the counter, distribution amplifier and gpsdo
07:40:16 <rust_collector> well, it looks like you have a new friend over there on the nutjob forum.
07:40:20 <Lemon> then I'll hunt for OCXO's but most come from china
07:40:23 <Lemon> so I'll have to wait
07:40:34 <rust_collector> most of everything comes from china
07:42:33 <Lemon> yeah but the three pieces of gear I bought are coming from germany so they will come faster
07:42:33 <coppice_> even our dinner plates came from China
07:43:05 <rust_collector> I am so happy that the chinese invented that stuff
07:44:01 <rust_collector> if they invented glass, who knows what would have happened. and at least the rest of the world can have one thing they invented
07:44:52 <coppice_> clearly I know what would have happened
07:45:21 <rust_collector> I do not do not doubt that, lol
07:48:24 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/1-OSCILLOQUARTZ-8663-XS-10MHz-12V-Sinewave-Double-Oven-OCXO-Crystal-Oscillator/333275475256
07:48:29 <Lemon> from what I read those are really great
07:48:35 <Lemon> with a low phase noise
07:48:49 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/03-04-Years-Morion-Double-Oven-MV89A-10MHz-12V-Sine-Wave-OCXO-Crystal-Oscillator/333514717265
07:48:55 <Lemon> those too but they got some issues it seems
07:49:10 <Lemon> but specs are impressive, in the 10e-12 deviations for 1s
07:50:25 <rust_collector> do you nuts have your own channel? or is irc not precise enough for you people?
07:51:12 <Lemon> ho irc is fine
07:54:03 <rust_collector> you mena, it is usually within spec?
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07:56:42 <Lemon> yeah at least 1 year spec
07:56:58 <rust_collector> nice
07:57:20 <Lemon> but you know if you want to build something and have fun, for 10 bucks you can make a 8 digits counter thats quite accurate
07:57:36 <Lemon> you can also build a cheapass gpsdo with a random OCXO and bam
07:58:42 <rust_collector> hmmm,
07:59:23 <rust_collector> Now, I have no interest in the last thing, but I might look at a $10 counter
07:59:45 <coppice_> You can watch the frequency of most OCXOs going up and down a little as the thermostat cuts in and out. That's fun to see
08:02:47 <Lemon> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/possible-to-make-a-quality-universal-timercounter-using-$12-pic-countergpsdo/
08:21:06 <Lemon> hmmm someone answered and confirmed that those morion mv89a are really dope
08:21:16 <Lemon> but he told me I should get a few, to have one that works :>
08:22:00 <rust_collector> that is a good sign
08:31:08 <rust_collector> I guess you have seen this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkdLWronrlk
08:32:53 <Lemon> yeah its neat
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08:53:29 <Lemon> what happens if I use the gpsdo as a ref for a counter and a distribution amplifier, and connect the output of the distrib amp to the input of the counter ?
08:53:34 <Lemon> can it measure its own ref ?
08:54:54 <rust_collector> hmm, I would think so?
08:59:58 <Lemon> but how accurate would it be, like will it show simply 10.000000000 Mhz ? as its expected to be that ?
09:00:14 <Lemon> or will it show the slight error like 9.9999999999981 Mhz, if it got one
09:00:58 <rust_collector> hell, I wouldn't know? if you say it makes the thing super precise, why would it show an error?
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09:01:44 <rust_collector> I guess there will be a small error, just because things are full of reeors
09:01:48 <Lemon> well nothing is perfectly precise
09:02:02 <Lemon> and the counter got enough resolution to see its limit, I think
09:02:14 <Lemon> guess I need a second gpsdo :>
09:03:24 <rust_collector> you would need at least 5 different ones. except that you need at least 2 of each
09:03:46 <Lemon> I ask that because some older versions had a slight freq error, showing like 9.999 999.999 800 Mhz, so I wanted to see if mine is with this error or not
09:05:13 <rust_collector> so, what changed? is it hardware, or?
09:05:19 <Lemon> its a software issue
09:05:30 <Lemon> but it was on many of his revisions
09:05:34 <rust_collector> ok, so it would be fixable then?
09:05:42 <Lemon> he used a lot of differen boards, ocxo's etc
09:05:46 <Lemon> yeah it should
09:05:52 <Lemon> if he fixed the software by now :>
09:05:55 <Lemon> but I have no idea
09:09:17 <Lemon> but you know how it is, I'll get all I ordered, like it, and will want more
09:09:36 <rust_collector> yes, I know
09:11:41 <Lemon> lets hope it wont take too long with this damned corona virus
09:12:37 <rust_collector> I do not think the virus has anything to do with it. they probably make good money on not delivering stuff for a few weeks
09:14:23 <Lemon> why would they do good money by doing that ? lol
09:14:55 <rust_collector> they can not pay their people, if their people stay at home, they do not have to pay for fuel, etc
09:15:15 <rust_collector> the goods will be there when they come back
09:38:34 <Lemon> yeah but they make no profit
09:38:57 <rust_collector> sure they will, it just happens xx weeks later
09:53:18 <rust_collector> they are like banks and governments, they will find a way to make money out of anything
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17:36:38 <Ysjoelfir> hi all
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18:29:32 <hsn> hi Ysjeolfir
18:29:39 <hsn> and steve30
18:29:47 <hsn> good day to u
18:46:59 <AndrevS> morning all
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19:05:36 <Ysjoelfir> hello steve30 and AndrevS
19:06:04 <Ysjoelfir> I feel stupid atm... tinkering with some ooooold opamps and I somehow have the feeling that those are either broken or I am broken
19:20:44 <steve30> Just been out for a walk. Seems fairly quiet.
19:51:40 <Ysjoelfir> It's scaringly quiet here
20:08:08 <steve30> My Mum's car journey to work has gone from 50 minutes to 25 minutes due to the lack of traffic
20:09:06 <Ysjoelfir> Mine would be 10 minutes now, compared to around 30
20:12:06 <AndrevS> Used to go to work on the bicycle, so it would still be about 45 minutes
20:13:12 <Ysjoelfir> I dit that for quite some time and enjoyed it very much. I should start to do that again
20:16:01 <Ysjoelfir> otoh, I won't be there that often.... so....
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20:40:17 <K> hello
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21:01:32 * steve30 cooks a chicken kiev
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21:32:20 <Lemon> hello thugs
21:32:21 <K> oh look, it's that french volt-nut again
21:32:33 <Lemon> volt nut ? pfff no more, time nut now !
21:32:46 <K> same thing
21:32:56 <K> how would 'volt-nut' be in french?
21:33:06 <K> or something comparable
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21:48:34 <hsn> Ysjoelfir
21:52:04 <Ysjoelfir> le nûit dé la vòltâgé! or something simmilar. @K
21:52:07 <Ysjoelfir> hi hsn
21:52:17 <rust_collector> zzzz
21:52:20 <Ysjoelfir> I misplaced my relais that I needed for a work projekt -.-
21:52:22 <Ysjoelfir> hi rust
21:52:36 <rust_collector> aaaaaaaaaa kkkkk
21:52:37 <rust_collector> hey
21:53:05 <hsn> how r u ... u have been quite
21:53:38 <Ysjoelfir> [12:52:36] <rust_collector> aaaaaaaaaa kkkkk -> Автомат Калашникова?
21:54:12 <rust_collector> haaaaaha
21:54:15 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - well... I kind of slipped back into the depression I thought I had managed to have finally been done with
21:54:26 <Ysjoelfir> because of that job throwing out thing
21:55:00 <hsn> agh
21:55:03 <hsn> sucks
21:55:24 <Ysjoelfir> yeah. But I think I'll get over it, but it will take again some time
21:55:30 <hsn> well, hope u get better one
21:55:42 <hsn> better job not depression
21:55:46 <Ysjoelfir> I hope so, too :)
21:55:55 <Ysjoelfir> thanks
21:55:58 <rust_collector> I think we are supposed to be slightly depressed, you just have to learn how to deal with it
21:56:05 <hsn> yes
21:56:16 <hsn> the world is misarble xD
21:56:22 <rust_collector> exactly
21:56:51 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but it's coming all back atm. those thoughts like "am I not worthy", or "what did I do wrong", or "Well, I just knew I am not good enough at this stuff".
21:56:52 <K> the world is ending!
21:57:01 <Ysjoelfir> is it? cool, I love fireworks K
21:57:13 <K> nah, fireworks not allowed, too dangerous
21:57:32 <rust_collector> and no water features either
21:57:42 <Ysjoelfir> awww man :(
21:59:13 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, that not true ..
21:59:36 <Ysjoelfir> by the way, rust_collector - do you have any ideas of companies that have offices as well in germany and also in NO/DK/SE? Since I have to find a new job I can as well find one that may bring me up there some day in the future^^
21:59:37 <hsn> trump is leading country .. is that because he is worthy ?
21:59:38 <Lemon> K theres no real traduction im afraid, maybe 'frequence-phile'
21:59:52 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - I know, but depressions aren't rational, sadly^^
22:00:16 <hsn> right
22:00:26 <K> trump is doing something, but not sure it is leading, in a convenional sense
22:00:29 <rust_collector> I think the end will be that the world starts spinning faster, so it gets squished flat, and the flat earthers win
22:00:34 <Ysjoelfir> no lemon, I'm sure it's le nûit dé la vòltâgé! or le nûit dé la ticktock!
22:01:02 <hsn> is this thing routable ? https://snipboard.io/cm7LAD.jpg
22:01:05 <rust_collector> general purpose nut
22:01:12 <Lemon> ticktock-addicte :P
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22:01:53 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, I think I need some more details. unless you want to work for ikea
22:02:04 <rust_collector> just a minute
22:02:48 <K> ticktock-addicte is nice
22:02:52 <K> that will do
22:03:10 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector - I am a hardware design engineer. so basically everyone that builds some electronical stuff will do. like ABB for example, I know they have offices both up there and here.
22:04:07 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - depends on the number of layers I assume. buzt it doesn't look to complicated
22:04:44 <hsn> i think its easy on 6 layers but very annoying
22:04:57 <hsn> via cant be placed now because of the spacing
22:05:03 <hsn> of the tracks
22:08:30 <Lemon> yay I sold a computer for 150 euros today
22:08:36 <Ysjoelfir> nice
22:08:41 <Lemon> this computer was found in a dumpster
22:08:43 <Lemon> like, for real
22:09:00 <Lemon> I cleaned it, installed a fresh win 10, a few apps and bam
22:09:16 <Lemon> old dual core, 4gb ddr3, a gt210, 1tb hdd, dvd drive, card reader
22:09:26 <Lemon> a decent computer for basic tasks
22:09:56 <Lemon> that will pay for new thingies :>
22:10:00 <Lemon> like OCXO's :P
22:10:39 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, I will look around, and see if I can find something.
22:11:07 <rust_collector> mmm, coffee
22:11:42 <hsn> wait
22:11:52 <hsn> fresh win 10
22:12:00 <hsn> non liscensed right
22:12:23 <Lemon> yeah
22:12:27 <Lemon> he can buy a liscence if he want
22:12:39 <Lemon> that cost like, 5 euros on ebay now
22:12:42 <Lemon> even if its not fully legal
22:12:55 <Lemon> thats a friend btw so no issues
22:13:38 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/job/fulltime/ad.html?finnkode=173778570
22:14:36 <Lemon> I think I'm going to grab a morion mv89a or two, those are high stable double over crystal oscillators
22:14:47 <Lemon> considered as one of the best second hand you can get
22:15:06 <Lemon> and maybe an oscilloquartz 8663 XS
22:15:56 <rust_collector> https://arbeidsplassen.nav.no/stillinger/stilling/2100f684-b8fd-45c1-aba2-96ebb8e293f7
22:17:32 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/job/fulltime/ad.html?finnkode=173741876
22:19:33 <Ysjoelfir> thanks rusty :) I appreciate that
22:20:04 <rust_collector> I think I will put the links somewhere else
22:22:23 <rust_collector> hmm, this? https://www.finn.no/job/fulltime/ad.html?finnkode=173348345
22:23:30 <Lemon> the timepod 5330 is really an impressive device, it can show up to 17 digits of resolution D: and its accurate to femtoseconds
22:27:46 <Ysjoelfir> pretty cool :) I didn't know that sony was also up there. otoh, I assume sony is nearly everywhere nowadays.
22:27:53 <rust_collector> https://arbeidsplassen.nav.no/stillinger/stilling/2fd8bd5a-eab5-4360-bf2e-20583993c1e2
22:28:06 <rust_collector> yeah, I didn't know geneva was up here either
22:28:27 <Ysjoelfir> lemon: please post two things in 10 femtoseconds delay. thanks.
22:28:28 <Ysjoelfir> :D
22:28:33 <Lemon> d
22:28:36 <Lemon> easy
22:28:54 <Lemon> but yeah I cant wait to get the little counter I ordered
22:29:18 <Lemon> with the gpsdo well stabilized, it will be really accurate with a huge 15 digits of resolution
22:29:27 <Lemon> and the last digits are useful !
22:30:18 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, this could be fun? https://www.finn.no/job/fulltime/ad.html?finnkode=172580425
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22:34:36 <Ysjoelfir> that could absoolutely be VERY fun, indeed
22:34:48 <Ampera> good morning I hate everything
22:35:03 <rust_collector> hmm, how about amplifier repairs?
22:35:07 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Ampera
22:35:12 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, why not?
22:35:21 <rust_collector> https://arbeidsplassen.nav.no/stillinger/stilling/44725815-d368-49db-93bb-38737486fb30
22:38:17 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/job/fulltime/ad.html?finnkode=171041417
22:39:35 <Ysjoelfir> that one looks interesting, too
22:39:52 <rust_collector> fpga stuff?
22:41:00 <rust_collector> or no fpga stuff?
22:41:22 <rust_collector> here it is anyway https://arbeidsplassen.nav.no/stillinger/stilling/bdd9e138-8494-4004-aff7-e955331e38ec
22:42:37 <rust_collector> I have to go do stuff for a bit...
22:44:58 <Ysjoelfir> kongsberg, nice :) one of their offices is actually in my hometown!
22:45:16 <Ysjoelfir> thank you very much for your efforts rusty, I appreciate it very much
22:54:37 <Lord_of_nothing> for e veryone who speak austria to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpYCkv1cP8g
23:06:20 <rust_collector> kongsberg is a pretty serious company. From my personal experience, you have to be very tolerant of weirdos
23:07:17 <rust_collector> maybe the best at their job, but also incompatible with other humans
23:08:20 <rust_collector> and all I tried to do today, was to go to the dump, and get garbage off my trailer. but it seems everyone else thought about that too
23:09:57 <rust_collector> I guess pcb assembly is not your thing, lol
23:13:27 <Lemon> im tempted to get one of those https://www.ebay.fr/itm/03-04-Years-Morion-Double-Oven-MV89A-10MHz-12V-Sine-Wave-OCXO-Crystal-Oscillator/333514717265
23:13:39 <rust_collector> ok
23:13:46 <K> stay strong, Lemon
23:13:53 <Lemon> mmghfff
23:14:33 <rust_collector> might as well get 2 or 3 of them, to make sure
23:16:31 <hsn93> lol the intro to trump 1992 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv-BaDbGHuE
23:16:57 <Lemon> and a second GPSDO too
23:17:08 <Lemon> you know the saying
23:17:09 <rust_collector> yeah, you might as well
23:17:15 <Lemon> a man with two clocks is never sure
23:17:20 <Lemon> so you need a third
23:17:28 <rust_collector> no, you need 2 fewer
23:18:03 <rust_collector> stop using up other peoples time. only one or no clocks per person
23:19:22 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Oscilloquartz-Star-4-GPS-Empfanger-10MHz-1PPS-GPS-disziplinierte-Uhr-GPSDO/292905940612?hash=item44328df684:g:vfEAAOSwfsdcMdg3
23:19:52 <rust_collector> yes!
23:19:57 <rust_collector> perfect!
23:20:03 <rust_collector> get one, or two
23:20:07 <hsn93> yes stop using clocks ..
23:20:26 <hsn93> what is time anyway ..
23:20:45 <rust_collector> who cares, as long as he quite using all of it
23:20:50 <hsn93> there is sunrise and sundown its enough for u to sleep and start counting dates
23:21:27 <rust_collector> if he could at least measure something useful, like weeks...
23:22:34 <rust_collector> I mean, if you use 39nanofemtos, or 41nanofemtos.... it does not matter, because you can not go to the store in that time anyway
23:25:46 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3028oDEKZo4
23:26:28 <rust_collector> you are getting better at this, Ampera
23:28:37 <Ampera> rust_collector, better at what
23:28:48 <rust_collector> picking actual music
23:28:57 <Ampera> I've listened to King Crimson for a few years at least, even saw them perform in person
23:28:59 <rust_collector> good job!
23:41:21 <coppice_> Ampera: among King Crimson's stuff I prefer the things its hard to get your head around, like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpMyf9EJDFA
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