// #eevblog — 2020-03-28
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00:00:06 <K> is it really RS-232, with positive/negative voltages and whatnot?
00:01:20 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/HOT-PLL-GPSDO-GPS-Tame-Disciplined-Clock-Sine-Wave-GPS-Receiver-10M-1PPS-DE/122884198500?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
00:01:37 <Lemon> the seller couldnt tell me anything besides 'its regular rs232'
00:03:01 <Ysjoelfir> well, it's actually written on the case
00:03:10 <Ysjoelfir> tip is transmit, case is gnd. done. no receive
00:04:52 <Lemon> ho nice !
00:05:02 <Lemon> so I can take a 3.5mm jack, a male usb, solder it and go ?
00:05:46 <K> hm, https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/bg7tbl-gpsdo-master-reference/
00:06:01 <K> some other tread says it is ttl levels
00:06:06 <K> 0-5
00:06:13 <Lemon> yeah I looked at this thread
00:06:14 <K> do you have the unit now?
00:06:17 <Lemon> I know nothing about rs232
00:06:19 <Lemon> not yet no
00:06:28 <Lemon> thats why I ask about the diy cable
00:06:33 <Lemon> if I can make it myself, perfect
00:06:36 <Lemon> if not, I need to order one
00:06:47 <Lemon> but I mean I dont see why a diy one wouldnt work
00:06:51 <K> well, you do have a scope, you can see what voltage it outputs
00:06:59 <Lemon> theres nothing besides a jack and a usb connector
00:07:02 <Lemon> yeah
00:07:52 <K> wait, usb connector?
00:09:06 <Lemon> yes I want to make a rs232 to usb cable
00:09:08 <Lemon> I saw some for sale
00:09:23 <Lemon> but with a 3.5mm jack
00:09:38 <Lemon> amazon got a 3.5mm rs232 to usb for sale for like 18 euros
00:09:42 <Lemon> so if I can make it myself
00:11:13 <Ysjoelfir> usb doesn't have RS232
00:11:19 <Ysjoelfir> you need a converter for that
00:12:17 <Lemon> arf
00:12:51 <Lemon> so I need a 3.5mm rs232 to regular rs232, then rs232 to usb converter
00:13:25 <Lemon> well lets focus on the thermomter first
00:13:28 <Lemon> I'll see later for that
00:27:34 <Lemon> so a lcd/display with 2 lines and 20 char would be fine to display 4 channels, with 000.000 resolution
00:30:36 <Lemon> under the screen, one switch for power, and 4 to start logging, for each channels
00:30:40 <Lemon> I want it to be pretty simple
00:34:07 <Lemon> I need to make those buttons (for monitoring) works only if its connected via usb to a computer
00:34:11 <Lemon> if not, they do nothing
00:40:20 <Ysjoelfir> I would start with the cable, thats easier^^
00:46:16 <Lemon> yeah thats true I need to find one !
00:46:23 <Lemon> but I also want to make a digikey order
00:46:27 <Lemon> and they have those sensors
00:46:34 <Lemon> besides sensors, and the arduino
00:46:46 <Lemon> do I need anything else ? can I directly wire sensors to the arduino and collect data ?
00:54:51 <Ysjoelfir> that depends on the sensors and the arduino. also note the size of those sensors.
01:00:20 <K> yea, those are sensor ics are in dnf packages
01:00:31 <K> might be a tad trcky to solder w/o hot air
01:05:51 <Lemon> well I just want to solder thin wires on them, wrapping wire to be precise
01:06:04 <Lemon> I have a fairly thin soldering iron tip (on the ts100)
01:06:13 <Lemon> should be doable no ? even if not clean
01:06:18 <Ysjoelfir> yes
01:06:37 <Lemon> https://developer.sensirion.com/fileadmin/user_upload/customers/sensirion/Dokumente/3_Temperature_Sensors/Datasheets/Sensirion_Temperature_Sensors_STS3x_Datasheet.pdf
01:06:41 <Ysjoelfir> but why not start with... like a LM35? three pins, reasonably big, easy to programm
01:06:46 <Lemon> the one I want are the sts35
01:07:10 <Ampera> AEWYH
01:07:20 <Lemon> well I wanted small sensors so I can solder long wires to them, and put them into shrinwrap or something
01:07:26 <Lemon> so I can poke things with them
01:07:33 <Lemon> or put them into tight areas
01:07:42 <Lemon> by long wires I mean 50cm or so
01:07:46 <Lemon> what I2C allows me
01:08:22 <Ysjoelfir> then I would choose a sensor with current output. allows you very long wires
01:08:40 <Ysjoelfir> also, the STS things allow only 2 I2C adresses
01:09:51 <Lemon> is it a problem ?
01:10:03 <Ysjoelfir> if you want to use more than two, yes?
01:10:04 <Lemon> I want to use 4 of those sensors, one per 'canal' basically
01:10:18 <Lemon> hmmm
01:10:35 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, sure, you could implement software I2C to get basically an aditional I"C channel
01:10:38 <Ampera> man in brown pants delivers popcorn
01:10:41 <Ysjoelfir> but... who would want that? :D
01:10:44 <Ysjoelfir> oh, I want some!
01:10:49 <Ysjoelfir> and hi Ampera
01:10:54 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir how are you doing
01:11:06 <Lemon> well I could live with 2 channels only I guess
01:11:21 <Lemon> but I dont understand
01:11:29 <Lemon> what is those adresses
01:11:31 <Lemon> are
01:11:42 <Ysjoelfir> better. finished my.... my.... erm... that written thing you send to potential jobs to tell them that they should choose you because you have the biggest balls
01:11:47 <Ysjoelfir> and I realy like the layout :)
01:11:51 <Lemon> I cant dedicate certain pins of the arduino to collect datas from 4 sensors ?
01:12:35 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon - you can, if you implement I2C in software. but thats not realy a thing a beginner should do, if he has hardware I2C compatibility in the atmega^^
01:13:13 <Lemon> hmmmmmm
01:14:42 <Lemon> ok well I can just use two sensors
01:14:47 <Lemon> one for ambient, one for DUT
01:14:54 <Lemon> that will be enough
01:15:02 <Lemon> I can always get two more and see later if I manage to add them
01:15:21 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
01:15:22 <Lemon> but component wise, besides a cap and two resistors (as seen in an example on the datasheet) I dont need anything else ?
01:15:26 <Lemon> just the arduino ?
01:15:49 <Ysjoelfir> or you could use a current output or voltage output sensor, which is cheaper and easier to implement^^ could even be done analog, without µIC
01:15:59 <Ysjoelfir> let me look once again lemon
01:16:01 <Lemon> yes but will it be as accurate ?
01:16:12 <Lemon> I need it to be at least 0.1C accurate
01:16:22 <Ysjoelfir> I asked that already once - what do you need that sort of accuracy for? :D
01:16:32 <Lemon> to measure the Vref heater :>
01:16:37 <Lemon> and various thingies :P
01:16:51 <Lemon> that way I can calculate the tempco, things like that
01:16:58 <Lemon> and well 0.1C isnt a lot honestly
01:17:09 <Lemon> more would be nice, but I'll live with 0.1
01:17:09 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, a Resume
01:17:22 <Ysjoelfir> while I look - how do you guys like my layout for the resume thing? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iSx9jcNbu70VedvzRgk62S-gClCaJt3r/view?usp=sharing
01:17:42 <Ampera> is that your actual name and address?
01:17:58 <Ysjoelfir> I am pretty proud of the design. i wanted it to relate to me ^^
01:18:00 <Ysjoelfir> yes, it is
01:18:09 <Ysjoelfir> please don'T send burning bags of poop
01:18:11 * Ampera calls and orders 20 anchovy pizzas to Ysjoelfir's doorstep
01:18:32 <Ysjoelfir> hawaii please. a friend is coming over for the weekend
01:18:41 <Ampera> mmm, hawaiian pizza
01:18:52 <Ysjoelfir> lemon - yes, should work
01:19:03 <Ysjoelfir> oh, but hawaii with corn, please
01:19:19 <Lemon> ok perfect ! thanks, I'll order 4 of them, along with those croco clips from mueller that I wanted some time ago :>
01:19:30 <Lemon> and maybe a little box, I wont use a display
01:19:36 <Lemon> I'll just use it on my computer
01:19:57 <Lemon> that will be a little box with sensors that I can connect or disconnect from it
01:20:03 <Lemon> or maybe not even
01:20:15 <Lemon> do you think I can make the wires 1M long ?
01:20:22 <Lemon> or will it be a problem, to transfer data ?
01:21:41 <Lemon> also I cant find which data to read on the datasheet, to determine how many measurements I can take per seconds
01:21:55 <Lemon> I thought about doing it like the counter, with gate times
01:22:06 <Lemon> lets say during 10S, take as much measurements as it can, and average it
01:24:01 <Lemon> ho geez, 2.5 x 2.5mm
01:24:06 <Lemon> I havent realized that its this tiny xd
01:24:12 <Ysjoelfir> thats the usual way you do stuff. well, at least I do that
01:24:13 <Lemon> that will be really hard to solder wires you are right
01:24:19 <Ysjoelfir> :P
01:24:26 <Lemon> think it is doable with some patience ? :>
01:24:48 <Ysjoelfir> sure. I used many of those, but I don't prefer them. so, how do you guys like the layout?
01:25:11 <Lemon> I think the wrapping wire I have is like 34awg
01:25:16 <Lemon> idk if its thin enough
01:25:54 <Ysjoelfir> dafak is that in metric?
01:26:08 <Lemon> good question dude xd
01:26:13 <Lemon> well I found it
01:26:17 <Lemon> looks thin enough honestly
01:26:27 <Ysjoelfir> ok
01:26:38 <Lemon> like 0.2mm or something
01:26:39 <Lemon> hard to tell
01:26:54 <Ysjoelfir> that can be hard on that IC.
01:26:56 <Lemon> but again
01:27:13 <Lemon> well I'll take my time and use the tinniest iron tip I have
01:27:26 <Ysjoelfir> don't do that. use a medium sized one
01:28:04 <Lemon> why that ?
01:28:13 <Lemon> well when I say thin
01:28:22 <Lemon> its still big compared to that ic
01:31:34 <Ysjoelfir> than its fine
01:31:52 <Ysjoelfir> as thinner as you go as longer you need to get heat transfered to the pin
01:31:57 <Ysjoelfir> *the longer
01:32:06 <Ysjoelfir> whatever
01:32:09 <Ysjoelfir> you know how it's correct :D
01:33:21 <Lemon> yeah you are right !
01:33:29 <Lemon> also about the lengh of the wire
01:33:40 <Lemon> do you know the practical limit ?
01:33:47 <Lemon> to transfer the data
01:33:53 <Lemon> can I make it 1 meter long ?
01:34:43 <Ysjoelfir> never tried, and I assume it depends also pretty much on the IC
01:36:55 <Lemon> yeah they dont say much on this
01:37:07 <Lemon> also do you know which data I need to read to know how many measurements per second it can take ?
01:37:13 <Lemon> its a bit overwhelming for me
01:41:04 <Ysjoelfir> Well, it allowes for 1MHz I2c speed and needs between 4.5 and 15.5 ms for one measurement. the measurement time is waaaaaay longer than the I2C speed, so that will be the limiting factor. so you can theoretically measure roughly 1/15.5ms times per second.
01:41:17 <Ysjoelfir> or lets say every 16ms
01:42:50 <Lemon> hmmm thats apprix 62 times per seconds
01:42:53 <Lemon> not bad honestly
01:43:24 <Lemon> ok thanks a lot for your time and all those infos !
01:43:29 <Ysjoelfir> could be even faster if you go analog :D
01:43:42 <Lemon> yeah but I wont have 0.1C accuracy :/
01:43:47 <Lemon> again, I really want at least that
01:43:58 <Lemon> and well 62 per seconds is fine
01:44:08 <Lemon> if I use a gate time of 10s, thats 620 measurements
01:44:25 <Lemon> good enough to show a resolution of two digits after the coma
01:45:12 <Lemon> I'll take 4 of those sensors, along with some croco clips and mini grabbers from mueler
01:45:20 <Lemon> to benefit of that 50 euros free shipping on digikey
01:45:31 <Lemon> but for now, nap time ! my tooth hurts too much to think
01:45:35 <Lemon> thanks a lot again dude !
01:45:38 <Ysjoelfir> np
01:45:49 <Ysjoelfir> I'll leave "work" now, too
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03:03:25 <Nothing\> heh i've been pining for a sinewave generator for months, i only just realized i have one prebuilt already in the form of this cheap LC meter
03:04:07 <Nothing\> it only puts out 500mv RMS but i figure i can run it through an op amp and bump it up to 5v or so
03:04:22 <Nothing\> just not sure if i should put a second op amp as a buffer on the output or not, but it probably wouldn't hurt
03:04:46 <Nothing\> i guess i could see a load causing a voltage drop on the output and messing with the feedback
03:06:22 <Nothing\> these ceramic caps i bought are shit though, they're supposed to be 100nf, but i measured a bunch around 40nf, i wouldn't even expect tolerance that low from an electrolytic
03:09:54 <K> what type of ceramic caps?
03:10:05 <Nothing\> lol chinesium ones
03:10:09 <K> otoh -60% seems a bit steep for any type
03:10:34 <Nothing\> yeah i'd say so
03:11:18 <Nothing\> i think i've read that some electros can go as high as 60%, especially with temperature, but i've never come across it
03:11:27 <Nothing\> but usually i think they're more like 20%
03:13:08 <Nothing\> mmm 3 cheese mac and cheese with "bacon"
03:13:30 <Nothing\> though i think it's more like bacon flavored chunks of pork they couldn't use in anything else but a man can dream
04:06:06 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
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05:15:16 <rust_collector> hey-o
05:15:45 <Ampera> hi ThunderSqueak, how are you doing
05:15:52 <Ampera> also rust_collector
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05:21:47 * rust_collector is doing slow things
05:23:19 <Lemon> wow that was a big nap
05:23:31 <Ampera> Lemon, a big nap for a big boy
05:23:38 <Lemon> heh exactly
05:23:44 <Lemon> and some wine !
05:23:51 <Lemon> a good ol Pinot noir
05:23:51 <rust_collector> big wine!
05:23:58 * Ampera whines at T3sl4
05:24:07 <Lemon> one of my parcels are coming ! I got an email
05:24:12 * T3sl4 magnetizes Ampera
05:24:13 <Lemon> either the gpib/usb cable, or the gpsdo
05:24:22 * Ampera degausses T3sl4
05:24:28 <Lemon> oh and today I got the ts100 stand ! its so cute ! lemme take a pic
05:24:31 <T3sl4> \o/
05:24:46 <Ampera> my headphones might come in any moment now
05:24:47 <Ampera> ngggggh
05:24:52 <Ampera> new things
05:25:28 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/UV9qU8J.gif
05:27:03 <Lemon> the stand is so well made
05:28:01 <Lemon> it seems to be made of metal with mat black finish, some 'liege' under it (the matter which wine caps uses, idk the english name)
05:28:06 <Lemon> and those tiny sponges, so funny
05:28:20 <Lemon> https://imgur.com/a/BKyaABt
05:28:34 <Ampera> I am bored, so the only solution I can think of is bash.org
05:28:41 <Ampera> we have hit the bottom of the barrel folks
05:29:09 <Lemon> hoooo bash.org
05:29:17 <Lemon> I loved to go there years ago
05:29:37 <Ampera> HEY T3sl4
05:29:39 <Ampera> INSULT
05:29:39 <Lemon> the french version was alright but it became cringy af, now its called 'DTC.org (dans to chat)
05:29:49 <Lemon> which is also a pun for Dans Ton Cul
05:32:06 * T3sl4 slaps Ampera
05:32:25 * Ampera counter-slaps T3sl4
05:32:32 <T3sl4> CS:GO
05:33:46 <T3sl4> Counter-Slap: Gay Orgy
06:13:17 <Lemon> hey rust_collector im ordering the sensors, to build that thermometer thingie
06:13:26 <Lemon> along with the mueller croco/mini grabbers
06:13:44 <rust_collector> good good
06:15:31 <rust_collector> I am thinking about looking up some of those current meter devices that you thread a wire thru. if I do not have to cut the wire, and put some kind of circuit in between, I think that would be better
06:16:48 <Lemon> a clamp metter ?
06:17:28 <rust_collector> more like a donut meter. it is for permanent stuff
06:20:46 <rust_collector> they probably work in the same way
06:30:24 <Lemon> neever saw them I think
06:31:08 <rust_collector> looks like a plastic donut
06:32:08 <rust_collector> but, I dunno, I do not know much about these things, so maybe I should use something else. So I have to look at all the things first
06:37:17 <Lemon> weird thingies
06:37:24 <Lemon> im a bit worried about temp sensors im getting
06:37:36 <Lemon> as theres like, 4 wires to solder on them, but they are 2.5 mm by 2.5mm
06:38:13 <rust_collector> fire up the torch
06:42:15 <Lemon> heh
06:42:33 <Lemon> well I'll order them anyway, theres 4 wires, 2 resistors and a cap to solder
06:42:43 <Lemon> those three components have to be the closest possible
06:42:59 <Lemon> it will be through hole, as I dont have smd, and smd would be too hard to solder I guess
06:43:09 <Lemon> well I can get them in smd to try
06:44:10 <rust_collector> you don't have smd?
06:44:26 <rust_collector> well, if you do not order that, then... I guess not
06:47:03 <Lemon> I realize it will be really hard to solder 4 wires on such a tiny thing
06:47:58 <rust_collector> could be an idea to have a tiny pcb, sort of like a breakout board?
06:48:44 <Lemon> well some peeps on aliexpress sells some tiny pcb with the sensor/resistors etc already soldered on it, Im quite tempted
06:48:57 <Lemon> but it will take a long time to come here
06:49:39 <rust_collector> well, you have a few other things to do, before you have to have those?
06:52:57 <Lemon> yeah true
06:56:54 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/ClosedCube-Si7051-0-1-C-Digital-I2C-Temperature-Sensor-Breakout/182145992027?hash=item2a68bf455b:m:mnN2BTzvJweKWveblxpQlwQ
06:56:57 <Lemon> theres those, too
06:57:11 <Lemon> I just want a tiny thingie that I can solder long wires to, accurate to at least 0.1C
06:58:37 <rust_collector> where does that measure? in the "big" hole?
06:58:37 <Lemon> I can seal it with heatshrink or something to protect it
06:58:55 <Lemon> its the tiny chip itself
06:58:56 <Lemon> I believe
07:02:01 <Lemon> -40 to +125C operating range
07:02:04 <Lemon> thats fine for me
07:02:21 <Lemon> the breakout board is 11 by 15mm, its not too big
07:02:57 <rust_collector> you might be able to find it when you drop it on the floor
07:04:07 <Lemon> yeah lol gladly wires will help
07:04:17 <Lemon> its 0.13C accurate from 20 to 70C
07:04:28 <Lemon> form 35 to 41 its 0.1C
07:04:33 <Lemon> well thats fine for me honestly
07:04:43 <Lemon> I doubt I can get better for that price
07:09:20 <Lemon> 24 euros for 2, thats a bit more expensive than if I make it myself, but well we cant have everything
07:35:50 <Lemon> ho I just realized the gpsdo I bought is one of those bg7tbl everyone talks about on the forum
07:35:52 <Lemon> thats neat
07:36:02 <rust_collector> oh wow
07:36:14 <rust_collector> I have never heard about those, lol
07:39:26 <Lemon> well I learnt about those about 3 days ago lol
07:39:34 <Lemon> its a chinese guy that builds them, and they are pretty neat
07:39:46 <Lemon> theres a lot of different revision, if the picture is right mine is from january 2018
07:39:51 <Lemon> but usually they are all great
07:40:00 <Lemon> I still need to figure what cable to get
07:40:05 <Lemon> to monitor it via rs232
07:41:08 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/HOT-PLL-GPSDO-GPS-Tame-Disciplined-Clock-Sine-Wave-GPS-Receiver-10M-1PPS-DE/122884198500?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
07:43:29 <rust_collector> headphone plug, with a little spacer ring?
07:45:50 <Lemon> yes its a 3.5mm jack
07:45:51 <Lemon> thats weird
07:46:46 <rust_collector> well, what would make more sense?
07:49:08 <Lemon> a good ol rs232 connector ?
07:49:08 <Lemon> :>
07:49:17 <Lemon> those oldass looking connectors you know
07:50:16 <rust_collector> seems a bit... more than you need?
07:50:51 <Lemon> well no I want a way to monitor it on my computer
07:50:58 <Lemon> to see how many satellites its locked on, etc
07:51:32 <rust_collector> yes, but does having a different connector help you with that?
07:52:19 <Lemon> well those 3.5mm jack seems to be not that easy to get
07:52:41 <Lemon> I still dont know where I can get them, seems the connections can be different, but the cable looks visually the same
07:53:03 <Lemon> and the seller doesnt have much to say about it lol he didnt understand the quesiton, or didnt know at all
07:54:28 <rust_collector> well, you can probably replace the jack with any connector you want.
07:55:33 <Lemon> yeah idk, I need to see once I get it
07:55:49 <Lemon> the next thing I'll get is probably a distribution amp, to feed multiple instruments with the same reference
07:59:26 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/10MHz-Distribution-amplifier-OCXO-frequency-standard-8-port-output/262979311720?hash=item3d3ac9d868:g:pn0AAOSwjk9ZUxb3
07:59:27 <Lemon> like this
08:14:31 <Lemon> I have seen a thing that I should not have lol https://www.ebay.fr/itm/FA-2-1Hz-6GHz-Frequency-Counter-Meter-Statistical-Function-11-bits-s-Power/113852031623?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200116171858%26meid%3D367c795183794bca866a76382f5a4929%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D113936245210%26itm%3D113852031623%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2%26brand%3DUnb
08:14:31 <Lemon> ksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219
08:14:44 <Lemon> im reading some peeps on forum talking about it, and it seems to be really neat
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09:26:06 <Lemon> I mean this counter + the gpsdo as a ref, it should be quite accurate, with a big resolution
09:26:22 * ThunderSqueak meeps.
09:26:42 <ThunderSqueak> Ampera, doing ok... been doing paperwork stuff all day
09:36:27 <Ampera> rip
09:36:30 <Ampera> brb rebooting
09:41:01 <Ampera> I got my new headphones in and they are pretty good
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12:41:17 * Halcyon nibbles on Ampera's ear lobes
12:43:26 <steve30> a Halcyon!
12:43:39 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
12:44:46 <steve30> Halcyon, fancy a telephone chat later? I've kinda been in the mood for chatting to people on my SIP phone lately.
12:45:29 <Halcyon> Sure, you want to do an IP call though?
12:45:48 <Halcyon> Not to my landline number?
12:45:55 <steve30> we can try
12:46:15 <Halcyon> I would have to forward ports for IP as my SIP server isn't exposed to the internet
12:46:20 <Halcyon> Nor are my phones
12:46:25 <Halcyon> Do you have IPv6?
12:46:34 <steve30> not set up at the moment
12:46:48 <Halcyon> Poop, OK... hmm.
12:47:51 <Halcyon> I mean, you can call my landline, but it won't be free?
12:48:03 <Halcyon> This doesn't look like a quick job to set up IP calls
12:48:15 <steve30> Halcyon, you are cheaper to call than an English mobile :)
12:48:28 <Halcyon> Seriously?
12:48:51 * T3sl4 spreads Halcyon's hot buns https://imgur.com/gallery/cW8SH8X
12:49:04 <steve30> Mobile = 4p, Australia POTS = 3p, Australia Mobile = 16p
12:49:49 <Halcyon> Well if you're happy to? +61 2 9160 2335
12:50:12 <Halcyon> They look amazing T3sl4
12:50:14 <steve30> mmm, food
12:50:24 <Halcyon> I was actually talking to my neighbour this morning about baking bread
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12:56:10 <Halcyon> Steve, you going to call me?
13:02:06 <gremlinz> i gotta go vote amongst the infected
13:02:27 <Halcyon> \o/
13:02:32 <Halcyon> Why don't you postal vote?
13:02:37 <gremlinz> going full hazmat suit
13:02:38 <Halcyon> Fuck lining up with the plebs
13:18:57 <T3sl4> i just submitted for my absentee ballot
13:19:05 * steve30 does postal vote
13:20:18 * T3sl4 posts steve30 a hug
13:23:21 <steve30> *purr*
13:23:38 <steve30> I just suggested to Halcyon over the phone that he posts me dome bread flour :)
13:23:48 * steve30 away fooding
13:23:53 <T3sl4> is that a euphamism?
13:29:38 <Halcyon> Sorry Steve, I'm back
13:29:45 <Halcyon> What tasty things are you getting?
13:41:09 <steve30> pasta
13:41:18 <steve30> just making it now
13:45:29 <Halcyon> I toasted an English muffin and I'm having it with butter and vegemite
13:53:57 * steve30 returns with food :)
13:55:39 <Halcyon> What kind of pasta Steve?
13:55:46 <steve30> penne
13:55:52 <Halcyon> Sauce?
13:56:19 <steve30> Half a tin of M&S chunky chicken
13:56:27 <Halcyon> Mmmm chicken
13:56:32 <Halcyon> Did you have cheese with it?
13:56:39 <steve30> nope
13:57:01 <Halcyon> I also had some tuna
13:57:03 <Halcyon> *meow*
13:57:07 <steve30> yum
13:57:17 <Halcyon> Sweet chilli flavour
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14:00:35 <steve30> How is Mark?
14:00:38 <Halcyon> He is good
14:05:27 * steve30 watches ashens
14:05:48 <Halcyon> I'm on Mike Jeavons :)
14:08:18 <steve30> Just watching "The Amazing Poundland Box"
14:08:29 <steve30> Our local poundland closed down the other week
14:08:59 <Halcyon> Is that a new one?
14:09:23 <steve30> from december. I don't watch ashens very often
14:13:19 <Halcyon> Do you watch LGR?
14:13:31 <steve30> yup
14:13:38 <Halcyon> He is good :)
14:22:36 * steve30 cuddles Halcyon
14:24:03 <Halcyon> :D
14:24:13 * Halcyon straddles Steve
14:46:46 <steve30> lol, apparently Matt Hancock has coronavirus
15:00:50 <T3sl4> bug https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/fq587u/the_giant_atlas_moth/
15:02:03 <steve30> I think I'll go to bed soon
15:04:02 * T3sl4 melts a duvet, pours it on steve30 https://i.imgur.com/rApWV3k.jpg
15:04:22 <steve30> :)
15:14:44 <steve30> Speaking to Halcyon cost me £0.184533
15:14:45 <steve30> hehe
15:15:42 <steve30> ah, its only 2p to call Australia. I thought it was 3p.
15:18:24 <steve30> I see. Canberra, Sydney, and Melbourne are all cheaper than "Australia".
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17:03:39 <Halcyon> steve30: Yeh the major cities are probably cheaper for some reason. No idea why?
17:17:08 <Halcyon> OK, this is pretty damn awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQy89tZ-mRU
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19:18:17 <Lexi> does anyone know of a voltage buck converter that can handle 90w? Something like the XL4015 but more current
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21:53:19 <Lemon> hello bois
21:53:20 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Lemon!
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23:38:55 <Lemon> its quiet today
23:41:57 <rust_collector> yes, it is saturday
23:47:43 <Lemon> heh
23:47:48 <Lemon> rusty
23:47:56 <Lemon> Im going to buy new things......
23:47:57 <Lemon> ..........
23:48:25 <Lemon> I know you love to see tons of digits
23:48:38 <Lemon> so here is a picture of the screen, of the device I want to get
23:48:40 <Lemon> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/bg7tbl-fa1-frequency-analyzer/?action=dlattach;attach=917626;image
23:50:13 <Lemon> and here it is https://www.ebay.fr/itm/1Hz-6GHz-Frequency-Counter-Meter-Statistical-Function-11-bits-sec-w-Power-DE/113925530171?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140423084956%26meid%3Ddc3a55e961ae48539f129ad2972e5dfd%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D264597608538%26itm%3D113925530171%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2045573&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042
23:50:23 <Lemon> when you look at it at first, you are like 'meh another chinese boi'
23:50:41 <Lemon> but in fact its pretty great, I've read most topics abbout it and its quite accurate, with a huge resolution
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23:50:55 <Lemon> and its cheap
23:51:12 <Lemon> I can connect the gpsdo to it, to use it as a reference
23:51:30 <Lemon> and bam I get a nice counter that shows some nice stats, that I can also connect to the computer for more infos
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23:53:07 <rust_collector> yes, ok, did you order it yet?
23:54:00 <Lemon> almost ! and the second thing is https://www.ebay.fr/itm/10MHz-Frequency-Distribution-Amplifier-OCXO-Frequency-Clock-Divider-8-Output-DE/113936245210
23:54:21 <Lemon> with that, I can connect the gpsdo on it, and it redistributes the freq on multiple instruments
23:54:25 <Lemon> so they all use the same reference
23:54:45 <Lemon> so to the hp counter, siglent generator, and that little counter
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23:55:45 <Lemon> they also dont take much space, which is nice
23:57:55 <Lemon> that and 5x 30cm bnc cables to connect everything
23:58:03 <Lemon> thats a significant amount of money
23:58:10 <Lemon> but you get a lot of things for that cash
23:58:28 <Lemon> I was ready to shell 200-250 euros for a second counter, so 110 euros is nice
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