// #eevblog — 2020-03-12
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01:50:40 <geekmoto19> morning
01:50:48 <rust_collector> hoi
01:52:29 <coppice_> Its a great time to be flight crew............. if you want a good rest.
01:54:14 <hsn93> did u see the traveller that coughed on flight crew news ?
01:55:06 <hsn93> https://www.the-sun.com/news/507275/cabin-crew-tackle-woman-who-sparked-coronavirus-panic-by-coughing-on-staff-deliberately-to-get-them-to-let-her-off-jet/
01:55:07 <coppice_> did you see the one about the plane that had to divert to the nearest airport when a sick passenger made a bunch of others panic?
01:55:51 <hsn93> no but i dont imagine that would be a good rest :P
01:56:49 <coppice_> most crew are at home right now. 3/4 of many Asian airline's flights have been cancelled
01:59:26 <Ampera> if someone's coughing on you, what is tackling them going to do
01:59:38 <Ampera> if anything that would make it even easier for them to transmit whatever cooties they might have onto you
01:59:54 <rust_collector> does not matter, it is just fun to tackle people, and get away with it
02:00:36 <coppice_> clearly you should wack them on the head with a fire extinguisher
02:03:37 <Ampera> coppice_, just crash the plane, it'll scare them right.
02:03:48 <rust_collector> drop an anvil on them
02:07:56 <coppice_> Ampera: what about killing their first born?
02:08:23 <Ampera> coppice_, knock them up and then crash the plane.
02:08:39 <Ampera> or if it's a male, have them knock a female up, and then crash the plane
02:08:46 <coppice_> Ampera: I think you just like to see planes crash
02:09:08 <rust_collector> that does look great
02:09:26 <Ampera> coppice_, trying to land a job at Boeing in their 737 MAX division
02:09:58 <coppice_> working on the next gen 737 Mad Max?
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02:12:05 <rust_collector> boing boing boing boing
02:12:13 <Ysjoelfir> rusty!
02:12:22 <rust_collector> uh, yea?
02:12:29 <Ysjoelfir> hi <3
02:12:42 <rust_collector> hi yourself....
02:13:26 <Ysjoelfir> I bought Snøfrisk to celebrate birthday. I know, I'm strange^^
02:13:34 <rust_collector> ok, so what d
02:13:36 <rust_collector> uh
02:13:37 <rust_collector> yes
02:14:07 <rust_collector> snørrfrisk is nice
02:14:12 <rust_collector> I assume?
02:15:51 <rust_collector> how does it feel to be so close to retirement?
02:15:59 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, i like it. it's expensive though
02:16:23 <Ysjoelfir> Do you realy believe that there will be any retirement for me? :D
02:16:34 <rust_collector> no
02:16:44 <rust_collector> but for now, you are closer to it
02:16:59 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, sure, I am pretty close to that age, but since I have witnessed 3 times that the age for retiring was increased,...
02:17:03 <Ysjoelfir> exactly!
02:17:27 <Ysjoelfir> a great reaason to celebrate, as well as being one day closer to the casket!
02:17:30 <coppice_> 3 times? how come?
02:17:45 <rust_collector> they keep changing the retirement age?
02:17:54 <Ysjoelfir> 65 -> 66, 66 -> 67, and this year: 67 -> 69
02:17:56 <Ysjoelfir> yes
02:18:03 <coppice_> 3 times seems very indecisive
02:18:16 <rust_collector> oh, but there will be 4 and 5 too
02:18:27 <Ysjoelfir> well, they are decisive in that they just change that in one direction, coppice_
02:19:03 <coppice_> Retirement in the UK has actually started rising this year. 65 to 66.
02:19:42 <rust_collector> in 7 years, you will get an automatic heart starter implanted, so you can keep paying yor taxes until you are 115
02:20:06 <rust_collector> oh, wait, that was just in the eu... sorry mt Y
02:20:11 <coppice_> 69 is going to be a huge problem. Most people struggle to keep a job until they are 65.
02:21:04 <coppice_> For a working class person, with a physically demanding job, 69 is going to be pretty awful, even if they can remain employed
02:21:13 <rust_collector> hmm, most of the retired people I know are still working.
02:21:42 <rust_collector> well, move to france then
02:24:09 <Ysjoelfir> Another great topic: Our boss sent an email today, stating that he wants us to spread out while having lunsj and also trying to not have the break at the same time
02:24:29 <rust_collector> didn't you get sent home?
02:25:11 <coppice_> Ysjoelfir: you'll all break in the end
02:25:32 <Ysjoelfir> no. we are just preparinmg for that
02:25:44 <rust_collector> heh
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02:27:26 <rust_collector> just go home.
02:27:27 <rust_collector> "pro active" isn't that a thing?
02:27:27 <rust_collector> pre? is is some active
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02:27:34 <rust_collector> I am not sure, it is a word I only hear, while some person is talking, and showing powerpoint slides
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02:28:30 <Ysjoelfir> I have heard that word, too. but what do i know
02:29:00 <rust_collector> every time I hear it, I get so hungry
02:29:28 <rust_collector> In my world, proactive means soon pizza
02:31:32 <coppice_> To me "proactive" means there is an American in the vicinity
02:31:38 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds about right
02:31:45 <Ysjoelfir> both
02:37:20 <rust_collector> did lEMON end you going on a road trip again?
02:38:02 <rust_collector> 3 days driving, just to get a slightly cheaper scope....
02:38:05 <rust_collector> oh well
02:38:22 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know? oO did he?
02:38:53 <rust_collector> no idea
02:44:54 <rust_collector> I do not remember exactly what he said. but I think he was going to get the tek540, or maybe he was going to bangalore, looking for work, with some dodgy friends. it was one of those
02:46:35 <coppice_> there's usually plenty of work for dodgy people who can speak English in Bangalore call centres
02:47:15 <rust_collector> probably. do they get paid?
02:47:25 <K> they get to keep their kidneys
02:47:42 <rust_collector> I don't kine kidneys, really
02:47:45 <coppice_> why would they work if they didn't get paid?
02:48:16 <rust_collector> someone promised they would get paid, after a week, or month, or something
02:49:15 <coppice_> Bangalore is a nice place. Very pleasant climate
02:49:23 <rust_collector> could be after just enough time to learn the script, and train the next guy. I dunno?
02:49:41 <rust_collector> I have only seen it in pics, but it seems sort of nice
02:49:56 <rust_collector> they say the weather is ok there too
02:50:18 <coppice_> its on the equator, but on a high plateau
02:50:35 <K> and you can poop right on the main street!
02:50:43 <K> nooone bats an eye!
02:50:54 <coppice_> yes they do
02:51:17 <coppice_> but you'll find cow pats in the city
02:51:37 <K> cowie-patties
02:51:39 <rust_collector> K you are thinking about kolkata, or worse...
02:52:14 <coppice_> I've never been to kolkata. I've heard it can be nasty
02:53:32 <rust_collector> I have never been there either, but I do chat a bit with a guy there, and it seems like there is a nice fancy city centre, and a lot of crap around it
02:55:10 <rust_collector> looking at pics, I think they just stopped building anything after the brits left
02:55:17 <coppice_> many Indian cities are growing so fast they are rather chaotic
02:55:32 <rust_collector> they just painted everything i weird red or blue
02:56:07 <coppice_> rust_collector: there's plenty in Bangalore that was clearly built to a very high standard under British rule and not touched since
02:56:35 <rust_collector> I am sure there is
02:56:43 <coppice_> Indians like colour coded cities. Like Jaipur, where every building is the same shade of pink
02:57:30 <rust_collector> that would be nice, if you are drunk and passed out, and got thrown off the train
02:57:50 <rust_collector> ah! yes, I am in the purple city
03:05:00 <K> "now to go and find main street!"
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03:21:27 <Ysjoelfir> i think I take a nap. later
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03:21:38 <hsn93> nnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
03:21:41 <rust_collector> bah, why not now?
03:23:23 <rust_collector> so, today I came across the worlds slowest forklift driver, so I went on a walk, and ended up climbing all over a 400 ton capacity stretching machine. It was sort of like a reversed hydraulic press, with a cran on top
03:23:27 <rust_collector> crane
03:24:02 <rust_collector> I am sure it was very very expensive, but it did look like some old guy made it in his back yard
03:24:44 <hsn93> velocity near 0m/minute ?
03:25:00 <rust_collector> close
03:26:24 <rust_collector> I was wondering if the forklift or the continent would move fastest.... and in which direction each would move, because it would suck if they went in the same direction
03:27:59 <rust_collector> https://vestmarproduction.no/uploads/hQgPk0vP/1504120584110.png
03:30:15 <hsn93> what is capacity stretching machine
03:30:24 <hsn93> capacity by mistake
03:30:31 <hsn93> what is stretching machine
03:30:52 <rust_collector> you put a piece of whatever you want to test in it, and it tries to pull it apart
03:31:11 <hsn93> ndt testing for tensile strength thingy?
03:31:23 <hsn93> distructive testing **
03:31:24 <rust_collector> oh, it is very dt
03:32:26 <rust_collector> as the guy said, the welds are usually fine, but the thing is wrecked by the testing anyway...
03:32:39 <hsn93> where is the crane on top ?
03:32:46 <rust_collector> on top?
03:32:49 <rust_collector> the yellow thing
03:33:18 <hsn93> oh right,,, .. i imagine crane = vehicle .. its a local slang ..
03:33:58 <rust_collector> what would you call this kind of lifting device?
03:34:21 <hsn93> well in local slang .. i dont know .. but crane also in english
03:34:58 <K> crane is a bird.
03:35:27 <hsn93> i guess everyone is calling them crane but i get exposed to "oh crane are not just vehicles" in late stage of my life ..
03:36:00 <rust_collector> heh, well... it is true...
03:36:25 <hsn93> donkey head as well :P
03:37:01 <hsn93> https://snipboard.io/IsC9ga.jpg
03:37:46 <rust_collector> what did they tell you that thing is then?
03:39:26 <rust_collector> low speed trebuchet?
03:41:11 <hsn93> well .. i didnt imagine it will be called donkey head ..
03:41:29 <hsn93> we used to say to it "that thing and point at it"
03:42:31 <rust_collector> that would work
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03:45:28 <hsn93> well donkey head is alias i think is'nt it called PumpJack
03:46:03 <hsn93> or PumpJack is the whole machine and the head only is donkeyHead
03:49:56 <hsn93> can i connect phy for "automotive ethernet" ie 100BASE-T1 to a PC ethernet port ?
03:50:22 <rust_collector> a what?
03:50:50 <hsn93> Ethernet PHY
03:50:54 <K> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Ethernet#100BASE-T1
03:50:58 <hsn93> yes
03:51:19 <hsn93> they have different encoding ? they dont talk to each other?
03:51:35 <hsn93> so people cant take laptop and connect it directly to car ethernet ?
03:51:51 <K> doubt that
03:53:19 <hsn93> it looks like it uses "PAM3" encoding ..
03:53:38 <K> https://technica-engineering.de/en/produkt/100base-t1-mediaconverter-usb/
03:54:22 <K> aparantly it is 100BASE-T1 is also known as BroadR-Reach
03:54:35 <rust_collector> I like older cars more and more
03:54:58 <hsn93> damn :)
03:55:15 <rust_collector> they would not need miles of wire in a car, if they quit stuffing them full of crap
03:55:23 <hsn93> there are a lot of ieee802.3 standards .. i wonder if there is compatibiltiy table for them
03:56:16 <K> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.3 oh deary me
03:56:25 <hsn93> rusty.. i've car model year 2000 considered new or old ?
03:56:38 <rust_collector> it depends on who you ask, lol
03:56:57 <hsn93> i ask u
03:58:18 <hsn93> K, yeah a lot .. even PHYs are not listed like that on digikey so i wonder if they are compatible or how the hell designers choose phy chips
03:58:23 <rust_collector> well, I would not consider it new... but not old either.
03:58:41 <rust_collector> mine is a 2002. and the other one is a.... 2002 also
03:59:16 <hsn93> well we have bad guarages here so u can imagine how bad it goes
03:59:21 <rust_collector> for being a car, they are not supposed to be used this long. but...
03:59:34 <rust_collector> what is it?
03:59:41 <hsn93> maintainance of it
03:59:50 <rust_collector> yes, but what kind of car
03:59:53 <hsn93> anything goes wrong .. doesnt get fixed correctly
03:59:57 <hsn93> bmw 528i
04:00:10 <rust_collector> ok, but then you asked for it, lol
04:00:35 <hsn93> how did i
04:00:45 <rust_collector> you bought a bmw
04:01:11 <hsn93> i bought it with 7000$
04:01:16 <hsn93> it was imported from japan
04:01:27 <hsn93> 39,000km
04:01:29 <rust_collector> they are pretty good, mechanically, but the electric stuff is sort of a nightmare
04:01:31 <hsn93> very clean
04:01:42 <hsn93> now its nightmare
04:01:49 <hsn93> bad wires everywhere
04:02:09 <hsn93> if i change brake light bulb .. 1 week its blown again xD
04:02:21 <rust_collector> that is weird
04:02:23 <hsn93> some series sparking is there i guess
04:03:29 <hsn93> i guess any care in that age would have nightmare electric stuff right now
04:03:43 <coppice_> I wonder if anyone buys used cars and trucks in Japan? They seem to export a lot of used vehicles to other parts of Asia
04:04:40 <hsn93> we used to buy a lot of BMW
04:04:42 <rust_collector> I had a 728 here all of last winter. I was supposed to fix the brakes, and an abs error, and some other small things. but it only started twice, and I had the guy come pick it up on a trailer
04:04:49 <hsn93> they come pretty new almost not used
04:05:11 <hsn93> i hate 7 series tbh
04:05:28 <hsn93> i like 5 pretty nice size .. 3 small 7 big
04:05:32 <rust_collector> it was a very nice car, when it was new, and working, lol
04:05:52 <rust_collector> the 2.8 was way too small for it, but...
04:05:55 <coppice_> I don't know why BMW make the 7. They don't seem to sell well
04:05:59 <hsn93> mine has "japan radio frequency range"
04:06:39 <hsn93> maybe branding xD
04:06:50 <rust_collector> can you hear anything on that?
04:07:12 <coppice_> The 7 series is quite popular in China, but people seem to buy Mercedes S class elsewhere
04:07:18 <hsn93> 7 = business mens .. if u quit making them it means ur not like benz or somthing
04:07:20 <hsn93> maybe?
04:07:26 <rust_collector> probably
04:07:30 <hsn93> not below 80MHz
04:07:52 <rust_collector> how low does it go?
04:07:59 <hsn93> most channels here > 90Mhz .. and i have maximum 90mhz and then back to 7xMhz
04:08:12 <rust_collector> heh
04:08:15 <hsn93> 76Mhz
04:08:30 <hsn93> i think
04:08:43 <hsn93> from wikipedia : The frequency modulation radio broadcast band in Japan is 76-95 MHz
04:08:50 <hsn93> but the car has maximum 90Mhz
04:09:21 <rust_collector> that was probably sold as a feature
04:10:15 <hsn93> The frequency modulation radio broadcast band in Japan is 76-90 MHz. The 90-108 MHz section was used for television for VHF channels 1, 2 and 3 until the analog shutdown occurred on July 24, 2011. The narrowness of the Japanese band (14 MHz compared to slightly more than 20 MHz for the CCIR band) limits the number of FM stations that can be accommodated on the dial
04:10:32 <coppice_> hsn93: it might well be that kind of thing, but they do own Rolls-Royce, so they don't need the 7 series to be in the Mercedes class
04:10:50 <rust_collector> meh, no one wants a rolls
04:10:54 <hsn93> it has a tv .. does it mean i can turn tv on for FM channels ? would they get demodulated ?
04:11:41 <hsn93> stell "BMW" is a Brand .. many people dont corollate "rolls-royce" being owned by them i guess .
04:11:41 <rust_collector> that is a good question
04:12:35 <hsn93> correlate*
04:12:35 <K> afaik you tune to TV channel, and FM audio is at some offset
04:13:01 <K> dunno how tv handles stereo fm though
04:13:05 <rust_collector> no one cares who owns what. jaguar is indian, iIrc, rolls and mini is german, opel is french, volvo is chinese, and saab too
04:14:00 <hsn93> yeah exactly .. no one cares.. people care to the brand name
04:14:12 <hsn93> so "BMW" vs "Benz" ..
04:14:22 <hsn93> vs "porche"
04:14:50 <hsn93> vs whatever.. i dont know i just thought that it might be branding
04:15:19 <hsn93> i know for fact that lot of business men take bmw 7 series .. for example our company owner
04:15:49 <coppice_> slap a slightly different body and a Porsche badge on a VW, and it suddenly becomes a luxury car
04:16:15 <rust_collector> hehe, have you looked at the mercedes pickup?
04:16:28 <rust_collector> aka nissan navara
04:16:30 <coppice_> the Nissan pickup?
04:16:33 <rust_collector> yes
04:16:34 <rust_collector> lol
04:16:35 <hsn93> tesla pickup
04:17:03 <coppice_> Doesn't a Mercedes A use mostly Renault mechanics?
04:17:15 <hsn93> https://snipboard.io/b7FNB1.jpg
04:17:17 <rust_collector> well, at least the engine is
04:17:53 <rust_collector> no wait, was that the a...
04:18:01 <rust_collector> yeah, I think it was a
04:18:09 <rust_collector> my cousin had one
04:18:41 <rust_collector> it was actually not too bad, except for the electric power steering
04:18:42 <coppice_> Car brands have been really intertwined since the very early days. E.g. Daimler-Benz can't sell cars as Daimlers as Tata now own that right
04:19:01 <hsn93> people here are started freaking and buying long-term food
04:19:08 <rust_collector> good
04:19:33 <rust_collector> coppice_, are you sure those daimlers are the same daimler?
04:20:04 <coppice_> yeah. the Daimler name ended up in Jaguar's hands a long long time ago
04:20:45 <rust_collector> yes, but you are sure it is the same as the benz one, and not a differnt daimler?
04:21:52 <coppice_> its the same one. I can't remember the interplay between companies, but come war or peace business goes on getting more and more intertwined
04:23:56 <rust_collector> ok
04:25:04 <coppice_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Company - The UK Daimler bought rights to the name in 1896 from the German Daimler family
04:25:52 <coppice_> Oh, it only became part of Jaguar in 1960. I thought the link was older
04:27:23 <rust_collector> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Simms_Motor_Scout_from_Autocar.jpg/220px-Simms_Motor_Scout_from_Autocar.jpg
04:27:27 <rust_collector> that is cool, lol
04:29:10 <coppice_> In times of war even pram makers need to make military vehicles
04:31:23 <hsn93> its suitable for shopping
04:31:30 <hsn93> it has good bucket at front
04:32:11 <rust_collector> and that stick poking out is nice to hang clothes on
04:32:35 <hsn93> and a paper indicating that this is not my dick
04:32:56 <rust_collector> and that is why they invented the post-it notes
04:33:25 <hsn93> :P
04:33:27 <rust_collector> well, I think I am going to my daily coma. good night
04:34:35 <hsn93> gn
04:38:45 <DHess_US> https://imgur.com/gengTif https://imgur.com/yTnDgXQ
04:41:40 <coppice_> India Pale Ale sold out
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04:42:15 <Ysjoelfir> re
04:43:36 <hsn93> DHess_US big clive has video making hand sanitizers
04:43:47 <hsn93> hey Ysjoelfir
04:43:59 <hsn93> bye Ysjoelfir .. im last person on the company
04:44:14 <Ysjoelfir> hey hsn :) and have a nice evening!
04:44:20 <hsn93> u2
04:44:24 <hsn93> DHess_US https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgY04l0CuEs
04:45:29 <DHess_US> hsn93, I made some with bleach and TSP.
04:46:04 <Ysjoelfir> I have 20 liters IPA... should be enough for my electronics work. and maybe to use as hand sanitizer if I ever feel like using that
05:01:55 <Ysjoelfir> Has someone experience with microcap spice simulation? I am wondering if I am somehow stupid or if a simple comparator with 0.5VCC at its inverting input and a RC combination with tau = ~5secs is realy to hard to simulate for that...
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06:11:51 <Ampera> hi ThunderSqueak, how are you?
06:12:59 <ThunderSqueak> doing ok
06:13:27 <ThunderSqueak> just sitting here, slept in pretty late
06:14:12 <ThunderSqueak> one of my gerbils got out while I was feeding them, was so funny she had to stop and sniff everything, so was super easy to catch again. was first time she has been out
06:14:56 <Ampera> That's cute
06:15:05 <Ampera> reminds me of my bunny, who used to be put into a closed cage
06:15:15 <Ampera> but eventually I just took the doors off because she never ever leaves
06:15:26 <Ampera> she could book it to anywhere on that floor, but she just sits there
06:16:30 <ThunderSqueak> yep
06:16:32 <ThunderSqueak> safe there
06:17:00 <ThunderSqueak> Diamond just was all "what's this? *sniff* oooh what's this? *sniff*..."
06:17:37 <ThunderSqueak> she found my diary, and snuggled up on it
06:28:23 * T3sl4 hugs ThunderSqueak
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06:36:10 * Ysjoelfir hugs Ampera and ThunderSqueak and T3sl4 and all others
06:36:35 <T3sl4> *hugs*
06:39:44 <DHess_US> Well, that is a new one. Finished pulling the fishtape through conduit and the wires I pulled were different than the ones I started with.
06:41:45 <Ysjoelfir> well.... when I installed my new stove and shut down the fuse I noticed that there is only one phase in the breaker box. but at the cooking place there were at least five cables, indicating three phases...
06:43:34 <Ysjoelfir> but it was only a single phases - with totally wrong colors. Line was on the L1 and L3 connections and neutral was on L2 and N. Do I have to manage that there was no Earth?
06:43:38 <Ysjoelfir> *mention
06:58:21 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir, how are you
06:58:25 * ThunderSqueak huges T3sl4 and Ysjoelfir back
06:58:40 <Ysjoelfir> tired, but quite good, thanks
06:58:44 <Ysjoelfir> how about you?
06:58:56 <Ampera> hungry and weary
06:58:58 <Ampera> but otherwise good
07:01:16 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/zKKJgtj.jpg
07:03:30 <Ampera> You're sudokute, T3sl4
07:04:22 * T3sl4 adds Ampera to the sudoers file to execute that
07:07:49 * Ampera wheels T3sl4 outta here
07:08:04 <T3sl4> here's a cosplay for you Ampera https://imgur.com/gallery/lZkm5Bd
07:10:43 * Ampera deep spaces T3sl4 with 9 inches
07:10:58 <T3sl4> yes daddy
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07:11:37 <Lemon> hello mahbois
07:11:39 <Ampera> I need to waste around 40 minutes making it look like I'm actually doing something when I actually have nothing to do
07:11:42 <Ampera> LEMON
07:11:45 * Ampera squeezes Lemon
07:12:30 <Lemon> what a day
07:12:40 <Lemon> 6 hours of driving, but I have a new scope !
07:12:49 <Ampera> does it work?
07:13:12 <Ysjoelfir> Hey lemon, I just wanted to ask you if you want to buy my scope :)
07:13:14 <Lemon> perfectly, and its in perfect condition. It even got a 2011/2014 cal sticker unbroken !
07:13:27 <Lemon> hell ysjoelfir !
07:13:29 <Lemon> hello !
07:13:33 <Lemon> haha
07:13:37 <Lemon> which scope ? the 502a ? :>
07:14:16 <Ysjoelfir> Nah. Nobody would part with 502As, those are gorgeous! no, I was thinking about a hameg HM1507-3
07:14:46 <Ampera> Wish I could simply drive over to Germany, then we'd all have a gay o'l time
07:14:58 <Lemon> well honestly, I must say now that Im fine with scopes :p I need probes !
07:15:37 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Sonde-oscilloscope-Tektronix-Tek-P6139A-500MHz/193376170047?hash=item2d061e303f:g:c1kAAOSwlgVeZq9D
07:15:40 <Lemon> what do you think ?
07:15:46 <Lemon> it looks like a decent deal
07:16:30 <Lemon> it misses the cap/grabber thingie but I guess those are inter-compatible
07:16:33 <Ampera> I could hear my laptop's RAM crying in pain while loading that page.
07:17:30 <Lemon> I wonder if the fan inside the tek scope is a 120mm one
07:17:44 <Lemon> its quite loud, maybe I can replace it with a bequiet or whatever I have laying around
07:18:39 <Lemon> can someone confirm me if I can use a regular tek grabber on that probe ?
07:18:41 <Lemon> as its missing it
07:18:55 * Ampera grabs T3sl4's "tek"
07:19:24 * T3sl4 slaps Ampera with a 475
07:19:34 <Ampera> man I miss old laptop screens with viewing angles so bad you almost can't see them dead on
07:19:48 <Ampera> not to mention poor colour contrast and terrible CFL backlights
07:20:16 <T3sl4> STN
07:20:21 <Lemon> the guy was cool, retired RF boi
07:20:33 <Lemon> he had a nice little lab with unknown to me instruments
07:20:53 <Lemon> he had a nice 50mhz arb waveform gen, from IIE labs or something
07:21:10 <Ysjoelfir> one of the devices we sell has a display exactly like that. 10 degrees off? nothing. 20 degrees off? inverted colors. 30 degrees and more off: nothing
07:21:21 <Ysjoelfir> you and your millihertzes :P
07:21:29 <Lemon> help meeeeeee pleaseeeeeeeee
07:21:33 <Lemon> on the probe I linked
07:21:42 <Lemon> it misses the grabber, can I use one from my regular probe ?
07:21:46 <Lemon> I have some 150mhz tek probes
07:22:02 <Ampera> I'm returning to my old boredom fallback, when I have nothing to do, just start updating linux machines
07:22:07 <Lemon> if it can be used I buy it, for 61 euros I wont have anything better
07:22:08 <Ysjoelfir> I have no idea sadly. I have three different tek probes and four different grabber attachment thingies. two of them fit together.
07:22:16 <Lemon> ha shiet
07:22:24 <Lemon> the other option is to wait a few weeks
07:22:51 <Lemon> second thing, I decided to not get a pulse gen, but to get an arb function gen ! either a siglent 1032x or a rigol one
07:23:03 <Lemon> the 1032x can be hacked to 60mhz, which is nice
07:23:05 <Ysjoelfir> why not use the good old china probes? or do you need >100MHz bandwith?
07:23:17 <Lemon> well its a 500mhz scope you know :>
07:23:29 <Lemon> it feels good to know that I can at least use it up to 300 or so
07:23:49 <Lemon> and another question, it got a 10pf input capacitance, I need a probe with that range right ?
07:23:54 <Lemon> if I use a probe, lets say 12-17pf
07:23:58 <Lemon> it will look like shit ?
07:25:47 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/1551389653.htm/
07:25:50 <Lemon> or theres that one
07:25:54 <T3sl4> it wont have enough compensation range
07:26:09 <Lemon> I can always get that one, and buy two 500mhz one on china, they have it for 60 euros a piece
07:26:33 <Lemon> hmmm it also misses the grabber
07:26:38 <Lemon> wtf seriously its not stock ?
07:27:22 <Lemon> ho fuck that im getting the 500mhz one, I'll live without the grabber
07:30:18 <Lemon> ok I checked it seems mine will fit
07:30:20 <Lemon> fine
07:31:54 <Lemon> im tempted to get that 300mhz one aswell, 20 euros with shipping is cheap
07:37:25 <Lemon> so yeah about the gen, either the siglent 1032X that i 'hack' to 60mhz, or those rigol DG8XX series, the best one runs at 35mhz max, almost the same sampling rate, a lot more memory (2mpts, against a few K for the siglent), 16 bits vertical against 14 bits for the siglent
07:38:32 <Lemon> the rigol one looks better on paper, despite the lower bandwith, 35mhz is already nice
07:39:22 <Lemon> you can buy upgrades, so it seems the story is the same for the rigol, maybe it can be hacked
07:39:31 <Lemon> so Icould buy the 199 euros version, which woould be really, really nice
07:42:40 <Lemon> rigol got a touchscreen which I dont really like
07:43:04 <Lemon> and no digit buttons
07:45:28 <Lemon> also the build is meh, siglent one looks solid af
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07:53:41 <Lemon> and its not a true 16 bits waveform on the 800 model, its truncated
07:53:47 <Lemon> guess the siglent is the best choice
08:04:51 <Lemon> ho wait, you can turn the 200 euros model into the highend one with 16mpts memory, 100mhz bandwith, 250ms/s sample etc
08:05:05 <Lemon> that might let me forgive the shitty design
08:09:21 <Ysjoelfir> So I heard you want indeed one 502A to have something a bit easier?
08:09:30 <Lemon> nahh :>
08:09:55 <Lemon> but seriously, 100mhz, 250ms/s, 16 bits, 16mpts memory, tons of features etc for 200 euros
08:10:01 <Lemon> it seems really, really nice
08:10:21 <Lemon> it looks horrible but well
08:12:29 <Ysjoelfir> I thought you just got one?
08:12:39 <Lemon> a scope, not a waveform gen :>
08:13:08 <Lemon> yes those are the specs of a 200 euros arbritary waveform gen xd
08:17:03 <Lemon> 236 with tva but still
08:17:34 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://www.reddit.com/r/PeopleFuckingDying/comments/fgvl2w/human_viciously_blends_and_freezes_bird_for_a/
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08:28:18 <brue> Would you still buy an android 8 based phone now, or is that too old?
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08:39:56 <Ysjoelfir> I won't buy an androig phone at all
08:40:00 <Ysjoelfir> at least not anymore
08:40:14 <Ysjoelfir> I would buy a KaiOS phone
08:41:18 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, imho you are an expert that knows everything. Do you know much about stray field transformers?
08:41:30 <T3sl4> sounds like a bad idea
08:45:06 <Ysjoelfir> Well, not neccessary for a cheap ass DIY welder
08:47:13 <Ysjoelfir> I have the hardware of my old welder with a burnt out transformer. It was the veeery very cheap method of using just a transformer and a current limiting choke in series.
08:48:45 <Ysjoelfir> I have many old transformers flying around, as well as some heavy gauge wires. I thought about using an 4kW UI Core I have no other use for, wind the primary on one leg and the secondary on the other, to get a rather loose coupling to begin with.
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08:50:46 <mfny> hi guys
08:50:49 <mfny> ltns
08:51:06 <Ysjoelfir> as far as I understood, you would usually insert an inductive shunt to regulate the coupling. that could be pretty hard to create. Do you think that I could get by with varying the air gap?
08:51:20 <Ysjoelfir> Hi mfny
08:51:42 <mfny> remind me where the other eev channel is maybe .. the one with more people ?
08:51:59 <mfny> or has everyone finaly moved here ?
08:53:01 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know about any other channel
08:55:21 <mfny> I found it (its on afternet)
09:00:58 <Ysjoelfir> thats nice. but why are there two channels?
09:02:18 <mfny> Dave wanted this one, but a lot of people stuck to the old one ?
09:02:42 <Ysjoelfir> ok? hm.
09:05:22 <steve30> A handful of us are in both. Some are only in here. Some are only in the other one.
09:06:42 <Ysjoelfir> I guess I will become one of the "both" group
09:06:59 <Ysjoelfir> they have jelly doughnuts there!
09:09:26 <Ysjoelfir> But there is no amperabot there. That is sad.
09:10:53 <steve30> There is an AutoDave
09:11:43 <Ysjoelfir> oha
09:20:26 <Ysjoelfir> gn8
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17:02:01 <Ysjoelfir> Moin all
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19:07:08 * hsn93 caugh caugh
19:07:18 <Ysjoelfir> :O
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19:09:06 <hsn93> no worries .. i drink hand sanitizer everyday
19:09:11 <hsn93> instead of milk..
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20:38:04 <Lemon> sup thuggers
20:39:31 * T3sl4 thugs Lemon
20:39:39 <Lemon> :O
20:40:02 <T3sl4> i'm sure the t stands for "T3sl4", as i'm a bit of a hugger myself
20:41:15 <Ysjoelfir> as long as you aren't a bugger I'm fine with that
20:44:02 <Lemon> heh
20:47:05 <hsn93> https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/485811/isolated-dc-dc-converter-in-series << my comment is correct,, right ?
20:47:08 * T3sl4 huggers Ysjoelfir
20:50:27 <T3sl4> hsn93: that appears to be correct, assuming he's using the -0523 model of converter
20:50:43 <T3sl4> he doesn't appear to know that voltage difference is a difference
20:51:50 <hsn93> he got the circuit from other people on (another question) he posted earlier
20:59:07 <hsn93> im so intrested in this : https://www.thirtythreeforty.net/posts/2019/08/mastering-embedded-linux-part-1-concepts/
20:59:27 <hsn93> i want to build embedded linux board :')
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21:38:04 <Lemon> I need to fit the new scope on the bench
21:40:11 <K> hello
21:40:12 <Ysjoelfir> Get a Tektronix Scopecart! :)
21:40:17 <Ysjoelfir> there is one at ebay right now!
21:40:19 <Ysjoelfir> hello K
21:40:23 <Lemon> hi k
21:40:31 <Lemon> yeah but the shippimg bro
21:48:03 <hsn993> drawing + local carpenter ?
21:48:21 <Lemon> yeah I could build something
21:49:35 <Ysjoelfir> You could build something like my rollable workbench :)
21:49:46 <Ysjoelfir> but use better rollers, those I used are crappy as hell
21:51:20 <K> and you'll be rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin'
21:51:45 <Ysjoelfir> as long as you hit the wall of your room
21:52:42 <K> rollin out the door and down the stairs to the basement
21:52:52 <K> "i live with potatoes and beets now"
21:53:02 <Ysjoelfir> XD
21:58:24 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/4bz6ihjri4m41.png
21:58:27 <Lemon> I think I can stack it on the fluke/counter
21:59:20 <Halcyon> Hey guys
21:59:31 <steve30> hi Halcyon
21:59:36 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4: is that a "how to clean a sheep" tutorial?
21:59:38 <Ysjoelfir> hello Halcyon
21:59:54 <Lemon> hello !
21:59:55 <Halcyon> Can any of you guys respond to this? https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/wanted-source-of-fake-usb-flash-drives/
22:00:34 <T3sl4> Halcyon: perfect, a sheep shagger for my sheep
22:00:54 <Halcyon> You're thinking of New Zealand
22:01:00 <Ysjoelfir> Well, I bought some that stated to be huge but didn't work at all when plugged in. I assume that's not helping you?
22:01:03 <Halcyon> Sheeps are cute
22:01:15 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: No, I need them to actually "work"
22:01:21 <Ysjoelfir> you should ask rust_collector about sheep.
22:01:23 <Halcyon> (As in, be able to copy data to them)
22:01:27 <Ysjoelfir> meh. then I can't help, sorry
22:01:53 <Halcyon> All good
22:02:35 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.redd.it/4bz6ihjri4m41.png
22:02:41 <Halcyon> I saew
22:02:43 <Halcyon> saw
22:02:47 <Halcyon> Sheeps are cute
22:03:12 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
22:03:18 * Halcyon cuddles Steve
22:03:22 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
22:03:37 <steve30> :)
22:05:39 <Ysjoelfir> I had to built a little device for an electrical check we do in house. basically some connectors, a load and two panelmeters (U/I). I have never struggled that much with such a simple thing. I advice you to never ever use panelmeters from the 90s (or around there) if you need two of them.
22:05:39 * Ampera stabs Halcyon
22:05:47 <Ysjoelfir> noooo
22:05:53 * Ysjoelfir jumps infront of amperas stabby thing
22:06:02 * Ampera stabs Ysjoelfir and then stabs Halcyon
22:06:11 <Ysjoelfir> meh. that was a waste
22:06:13 <K> what was the issue, Ysjoelfir ?
22:06:33 <Ysjoelfir> well, more like issueSSSS, K
22:06:58 <Halcyon> Ampera :D
22:07:14 <Ampera> Halcyon I spent too much money last night
22:07:25 <T3sl4> Halcyon: a miniboss for you perhaps https://www.reddit.com/r/Bossfight/comments/fhaq2a/chad_the_impaler/
22:07:30 <steve30> Halcyon, I struggled to get to sleep during the night, so I spent a long time daydreaming about cuddly boys
22:09:22 <Ysjoelfir> first: Don't expect them to work when the power source is galvanically connected to the measured voltage. fine, I can accept that. Second: If you use two (one amp one volt, should be pretty common imho?), use also two seperate power sources as they will behave erratically if connected in parallel. third: if you connect an amp meter it reads perfectly fine. if you connect a voltmeter it also works perfectly fine. if you connect both
22:09:22 <Ysjoelfir> you get half the amperage displayed until a certain threshold, then it jumps up to infinity, while the voltmeter goes completely haywire.
22:10:38 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ndQdJb
22:10:47 <K> Ysjoelfir: that sounds fun
22:10:51 <Ampera> I just spent 2300 USD on parts for a brand new computer
22:10:54 <Halcyon> Hooray!
22:10:58 <Halcyon> Ew AMD :P
22:11:09 <Ampera> It's faster than quite literally anything Intel has out right now
22:11:17 <Ysjoelfir> K: it was. I spent way to much time for that thing than I intended...
22:11:41 <K> should've called an electrician!
22:12:17 <Ampera> Halcyon, not shown on that list is another 1TB of NVMe storage, just my older PCIe 3 SSD along with the newer PCIe 4 SSD
22:12:24 <Ampera> which is another reason I went AMD
22:12:26 <Halcyon> *shrug*
22:12:40 <steve30> This new oven element I bought came wrapped in part of a "complete pet food for adult cats" box
22:12:55 <Halcyon> I bought 10Gig Ethernet stuff
22:13:14 <Ampera> I think I might do that afterwards, as I start gearing up for server things
22:13:47 <K> whatcha gonna serve?
22:13:56 <K> pet food for adult cats
22:14:16 <Ampera> porn for myself and not porn for everyone else
22:15:06 <Ysjoelfir> I like server stuff.
22:15:41 * steve30 is hungry
22:16:24 <Halcyon> Also, I also might actually be getting half-decent fixed wire broadband
22:16:28 <Halcyon> *fingers crossed*
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22:17:00 <Ampera> HUEY!
22:17:20 <Ampera> You'll have to run a speed test against me
22:17:31 <Halcyon> I said half-decent so it will only be 250/100
22:17:39 <Ampera> VDSL?
22:17:39 <Halcyon> But still, shits all over my current link
22:17:41 <Halcyon> Yep
22:17:51 <Ampera> Still, if that's good VDSL that's nothing to scoff at
22:18:12 <Ampera> you're still taking the piss out of every DOCSIS connection in America with that
22:18:14 <Ampera> and there's a lot of them
22:18:18 <Halcyon> So turns out because the links here have been underperforming around here, NBN Co installed a micro-node literally around the corner from me
22:19:09 <Halcyon> Just waiting for services to be cut over
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22:22:56 <Ampera> I would love to do a proper network infrastructure upgrade here
22:23:20 <Ampera> I'd want a good whole house 10GbE backbone
22:24:09 <Ampera> I'm still debating what sort of Ethernet to use, but it'll likely be SFP+ fibre and direct attach
22:24:35 <Ampera> Simply because nodes would be the expense for us, along with switching hardware
22:26:17 <Lemon> damn the tds 540 is a loudboi
22:29:37 <Lemon> its louder than my workstation :>
22:29:56 <Lemon> and it got a bi xeon with two of those insanely loud fuckers on it (turned down but still)
22:30:40 <Ysjoelfir> Is 10GB already commercially available for normal prices?
22:30:46 <Ysjoelfir> (lunch, brb)
22:30:49 <K> fan bearing noise of turbulent air noise?
22:31:04 <Halcyon> Ampera, DAC is the way to go
22:31:18 <Ampera> DAC?
22:31:25 <Ampera> Ah
22:31:26 <Lemon> tds 540 sounds like a bmw model
22:31:26 <Halcyon> Direct Attach Cables
22:31:28 <Ampera> Direct attach
22:31:37 <Halcyon> They are cheap as
22:31:51 <Ampera> Yeah i only expect to need a few fibre links
22:32:04 <Halcyon> I only use fibre for an air gap
22:32:13 <Ampera> The expensive part comes when i need like three switches
22:32:20 <Ampera> Well we have a large house
22:32:22 <Halcyon> Otherwise it does nothing else but add a minuscule amount of latency
22:32:48 <Ampera> Three switches and ones with interface with our twisted pair networking
22:33:09 <Ampera> It goes father than DAC
22:33:17 <hsn> Ampera u hurt my feeling :)
22:33:34 <Ampera> And since we have a 3 story house +basement
22:33:39 <hsn> im struggling with 100Base-TX stuff and you talk fast for me
22:33:46 <Ampera> Lol
22:33:47 <Halcyon> It does yes
22:33:59 <Lemon> anyone here uses an arbritary generator ?
22:34:03 <Ampera> 1000BASE-T is cheap
22:34:22 <Halcyon> Can you even find 100Mbit switches anymore?
22:34:35 <Ampera> Once you multiply that by 10 you might as well forget it
22:34:38 <Lemon> I have a 10Mbit one laying around !
22:34:43 <Halcyon> I mean new
22:34:48 <Ampera> I might never even be able to afford it
22:35:38 <Ampera> NICs and switches will be the crippling cost for me
22:35:39 <hsn> well thanks god that 1000base-T supports 100Base-T
22:35:51 <Ampera> Especially switches as those can run hundreds
22:36:13 <Halcyon> The Mikrotic 10Gig switch is quite affordable
22:36:22 <Ampera> It supports 10BASE-T too, hsn
22:36:27 <Halcyon> Mikrotik
22:36:32 <Ampera> How much
22:37:07 <Ampera> Also how many ports
22:37:29 <Halcyon> https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in
22:37:52 <hsn> Suggested price $149.00
22:38:02 <Ampera> Honestly that's not bad
22:38:06 <Halcyon> Not at all
22:38:20 <Ampera> It might do for one or two of the switches
22:38:41 <Ampera> But i need a larger one, which i will have to buy second hand
22:39:48 <Ampera> Not that I've even drawn everything out, because not everything needs 10GbE
22:40:46 <Halcyon> It's all about size with you isn't it Ampera :P
22:41:28 <Ampera> Lol
22:41:37 <Ampera> I like large things
22:41:45 <Ampera> That's why i like you so much
22:41:53 <Ampera> Fatass
22:41:58 <Halcyon> *smirk*
22:42:05 <Halcyon> That's what you think
22:42:29 <Ampera> You are the doughnut hole
22:42:29 <Lemon> im happy guys
22:42:41 <Halcyon> YAY! Lemon's gay!
22:42:50 <Ampera> Uh oh, did Germany invade again?
22:42:54 <Lemon> this month I drove 2k km's for test equipement
22:43:09 <Lemon> first to germany, yesterday 600 km for the scope !
22:43:15 <Ampera> So two Mm?
22:43:32 <Lemon> I brought a car full from germany !
22:43:44 <Lemon> thanks to that dope mamalala and ysjoelfir ! :>
22:43:47 <Ampera> So you invaded Germany
22:43:50 <Ampera> Impressive
22:44:18 <Lemon> and yesterday well, it was nice meeting a 70 y'o boi that worked in RF
22:44:25 <Lemon> he had a nice bench, with nice rare stuff on it
22:44:33 <Lemon> he also gave me some bnc cables which is neat
22:44:44 <Lemon> the scope even got cal stickers intact ! due to 2014 :>
22:45:57 <Lemon> I bought a P6139A probe, and I think Im getting another one but on china this time, as the guy only had one
22:46:20 <Lemon> now im looking for the arb gen, either a siglent 1032X that I'll hack, or a rigol DG8XX that I'll hack too
22:46:29 <Lemon> I dont like the build and look of the rigol, nor its touchscreen
22:46:45 <Lemon> on paper it seems better tho, but I heard siglent's one got better square waves, rise time etc
22:54:36 <hsn> who is bob smith :)
22:59:17 <hsn> https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/161436/why-is-bob-smith-termination-for-ethernet-recommended-if-its-wrong
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23:07:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wow, cryptos just got hit big time. Someone moving huge volumes, probably had to cash out to cover coming-a-gutsa on a margin call somewhere.
23:09:50 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Con't believe the speed at which my 2hr40min Youtube video was auto-imported into @LBRYio Impressive. https://t.co/EHkaP1josD
23:10:23 <Ysjoelfir> that depends on the hardware, Ampera
23:10:27 <Ysjoelfir> oh
23:10:34 <Ysjoelfir> the text didn't scroll down automatically
23:10:37 <Ysjoelfir> I was refering to:
23:10:47 <Ysjoelfir> [12:36:22] <@Ampera> It supports 10BASE-T too, hsn
23:12:21 <steve30> That's my new oven element installed, albeit missing one nut
23:18:14 * Ysjoelfir hands steve30 a peanut
23:20:40 <steve30> yum
23:21:30 <Lemon> you know theres something funny with tek scopes
23:21:36 <Lemon> they got a distinct smell
23:21:45 <Lemon> not that 80/90's smell, the tek scope smell
23:25:30 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, almost all 100BASE-T and 1000BASE-T switches support 10BASE-T
23:25:31 <Ampera> at least mine do
23:27:39 <K> how about 100BASE-T1 ?
23:27:48 <hsn93> no :)
23:28:02 <hsn93> T1 is different game
23:28:05 <K> don't be so negative!
23:30:33 <hsn93> K, how about some auto-negotiation ?
23:30:46 <K> hehe
23:35:30 <hsn93> https://www.eetimes.com/updating-the-bob-smith-termination-technique/# << the heck ,, reading these articles when u are newbie is nightmare ..
23:37:18 <hsn93> here what i can do ( (75 + 52) / 2 = hsn myth termination resistor )>>>> : https://www.eetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/media-1098221-bobsmith-table2.jpg <<
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23:53:46 <Lemon> I fear the day when I'll find a tek mainframe
23:53:55 <Lemon> like a 7904, or 7854
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23:54:58 <Lemon> the holy grail of analog scopes
23:56:21 <K> your desk fears it too
23:57:32 <Lemon> haha well the desk is a sturdy boi, I think it can handle around 300kg + without a problem
23:57:36 <Lemon> its made of thick oak
23:57:42 <Lemon> but theres not enough room
23:57:54 <Lemon> I already had to remove one of my screens to stack stuff
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