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00:07:09 <Lemonizer> hmmmm it seems that the 10v range isnt linear, thats the problem
00:07:26 <Lemonizer> I get a bigger offset at 13v, like a good 8mv
00:07:29 <Lemonizer> thats a lot
00:08:14 <Lemonizer> on the 1v and 100v range its alright
00:16:01 <hsn93> hmm
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00:24:53 <Ysjoelfir> Soooo. finally done with meetings today x.x
00:34:34 <T3sl41> demotivated much?
00:44:57 <hsn93> i can see spark when i scope the crystal oscillator xD
00:45:16 <hsn93> did that spark zapped the crystal ? :-)
00:46:13 <hsn93> i've meeting with the big boss tommorow :)
00:51:03 <K> are you gonna talk about cyrstal oscilators?
00:52:02 <hsn93> xD no
00:53:10 <hsn93> i've no idea what i will talk about :) except for training support
00:55:58 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Winner Winner Chicken Dinner! Like a BOSS! https://t.co/cgLR0NcAFj
00:56:11 <hsn93> i've no idea why i got noise in 96MHz while i setup the PLL in the microcontroller to 120MHz !!
00:56:43 <hsn93> the noise in vcc
00:57:02 <hsn93> usb 48MHz but there is no noise in 48MHz
01:03:45 <Lemonizer> hey Ysjoelfir ! I have a question for you, about adjusting a dmm :>
01:07:15 <Ampera> Lemonizer, you smoke enough pot until the pots are in the right place
01:07:22 <Ysjoelfir> :O oh no!
01:07:24 * Ysjoelfir hides
01:08:17 <Lemonizer> I tried to adjust the systron donner's 23mv offset on the 10v range, I could take it down to 5.4mv, but I reached the max. and when I compare it to the fluke, on 13v for example its now 8mv, so theres a linearity problem
01:09:58 <K> warning! a wild voltnut has appeared!
01:10:06 <Lemonizer> :(((
01:10:14 <Lemonizer> I want it to be at least on 1 year specs
01:10:18 <Lemonizer> other ranges are fine
01:10:34 <Ysjoelfir> well, maybe there is an error somewhere in the systron
01:10:54 <Lemonizer> what kind of error ?
01:13:19 <hsn93> human error
01:13:28 <K> gasket problem
01:13:33 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir, how are you doing
01:13:45 <K> the gasket between the chair and device, that is
01:13:57 <hsn93> K king of troll :P
01:17:34 <Ysjoelfir> I have no idea Lemon, sadly.
01:17:51 <Lemonizer> maybe the reference needs to be adjusted too ?
01:17:51 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Ampera :) Now quite nice. doing some stuff for work and after that going to the gym. and you?
01:22:08 <Ampera> Alright, I've just started the day at work
01:28:23 <Ampera> I've decided to run through my entire music collection alphabetical
01:30:06 <coppice_> so, where does it start? "Ace of Spades"?
01:30:34 <coppice_> is there are a song aboue aardvarks?
01:35:46 <Ampera> coppice_, it's alphabetical by group, and it started with the 4 Seasons
01:36:44 <coppice_> F seems high up the alphabet to be starting
01:37:14 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/musiclist.html
01:47:41 <coppice_> "ABBA"? "Ace of Base"? Do the Swedes try hard to get to the top of alphabetical lists?
01:47:53 <coppice_> or in Volvo's case the end of the list
01:47:57 <Ampera> I have The Herreys later down in the list
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04:44:37 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Halcyon :) And bye all, going home now
04:44:41 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Quit: Farvel og har en hyggelige tid :)
05:01:55 <rust_collector> mmh, morning?
05:02:05 <K> nein, verboten.
05:02:11 <rust_collector> ok.
05:02:15 <rust_collector> morning?
05:03:01 <K> ich bin zu hause gehen
05:03:07 <K> is that right?
05:03:48 <rust_collector> sie gehe nach hause?
05:03:51 <rust_collector> I dunno?
05:04:18 <rust_collector> unless you are walking a house, but my foreign is pretty crap
05:04:59 <K> hm, google translate agrees with me
05:05:10 <rust_collector> og, then use that
05:05:57 <K> yes.
05:06:38 <rust_collector> it is not like anyone would understand either version, so who cares?
05:08:35 <K> or care, for that matter.
05:10:41 <rust_collector> I just got home, wife took kid #1 and #3, and drive away somewhere. and later we are going to pick up a fridge. mmh, I do not like this stuff
05:16:17 <K> what about kid #2 ?
05:16:42 <rust_collector> she is here, eating dinner
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05:51:59 <Ampera> I've gotten to Bobby Darin, progress is being made
05:52:08 <rust_collector> eh?
05:52:25 <rust_collector> you are up to the 1940's now?
05:53:10 <Ampera> darin isn't 40's
05:53:14 <Ampera> he's late 50's early 60's
05:53:33 <rust_collector> whatever... what are you doing?
05:53:45 <Ampera> listening to music
05:53:49 <Ampera> talking to a friend
05:53:52 <Ampera> working
05:54:06 <rust_collector> sounds good
05:57:40 <rust_collector> I am waiting for the wife, we are supposed to go pick up a fridge somewhere
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06:07:57 <Ampera> rust_collector, sounds like a fun day out
06:09:03 <rust_collector> oh yes, it will be great. We have just a tiny bit of slushy snow, so I will just get slightly wet, and probably slide around on some stairs or something
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06:09:44 <Lemon> bonjour
06:16:24 <Ysjoelfir> Moin you all
06:16:35 <Lemon> sup thug !
06:17:16 <Lemon> I need a bigger desk :(
06:17:27 <Lemon> I want new instruments, moooorreee instrumentssss
06:17:43 <Ysjoelfir> beware, we have a voltnur over there!
06:18:16 <Lemon> haha ho not only, farad/amp/volt/time/ohm and-so-on nut :>
06:18:26 <Lemon> Id like an electrometer and a pulse generator !
06:18:30 <Ysjoelfir> :P
06:18:37 <Ysjoelfir> I gathered a nice case from the trash today
06:19:02 <Ysjoelfir> it is actually a bluetooth speaker wireless thing
06:19:03 <Lemon> hoooo show me !
06:19:09 <Ysjoelfir> I forgot it at work :X
06:19:14 <Lemon> haa I see !
06:19:14 <Ysjoelfir> i'll show you tomorrow
06:19:23 <Lemon> I will soon see a friend to build a box for the variac :>
06:19:37 <Lemon> I'll try to find two galavometers
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06:19:42 <Lemon> how high can it go ?
06:19:49 <Lemon> up to 240v or more ?
06:21:34 <Lemon> a spectrum/network analyzer would be dope too, im sure it will help me to understand many things
06:21:37 <Lemon> but they are costly
06:21:50 <Ysjoelfir> IIRC 270 usually
06:22:11 <Ysjoelfir> I have a Nicolet 440 mini ubiquitous speccy. maybe needs some work?
06:22:12 <Lemon> ok ! so I'll get a 300v max meter
06:22:14 <Lemon> and 3 amps one maybe
06:22:22 <Ysjoelfir> yes
06:22:28 <Lemon> I just saw a bit of this one lemme look a picture
06:22:54 <Lemon> its so beautiful
06:22:56 <Lemon> I love it !
06:23:04 <Lemon> so many writings, buttons etc
06:23:10 <Lemon> thumbwheel switches :>
06:24:29 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.com/itm/164023704631
06:24:42 <Lemon> USA got neat deals on test equipement gear
06:25:37 <Ysjoelfir> don't forget that speccy isn't speccy
06:26:32 <Lemon> those genrad lcr meter are dope
06:26:35 <Lemon> so many things I want !
06:27:11 <Lemon> but realisticly, I want some resistor/capacitor/inductor standard, one of each, not a ultra precise one, just enough to see how's my gear
06:27:14 <Ysjoelfir> the nicolet for example is a low frequency, 10Hz to 20kHz, spectrum analyzer. the HP8590A which you found is a 1MHz to 1.5GHz speccy. completely different use cases :)
06:27:25 <Lemon> ho yeah ofc theres tons of ranges !
06:27:41 <Lemon> what do you advice me ?
06:27:50 <Lemon> what am I susceptible to look at ?
06:27:55 <Lemon> its hard to determine my needs
06:28:02 <Lemon> as im learning and discovering tons of stuff
06:28:39 <Ysjoelfir> well... it's pretty hard to say. I personally am more a low frequency guy. RF realy isn't my thing.
06:28:59 <Ysjoelfir> RF techs would call what I am interested in "DC"
06:29:09 <Ysjoelfir> so, basically everything below 100kHz
06:29:12 <Lemon> somethin more general like a few hz up to 800 mhz-1ghz shyould be fine
06:29:25 <Ysjoelfir> you won't find that I suppose
06:29:32 <Lemon> probably not :>
06:29:38 <Lemon> I'll see ! its too expensive anyway
06:29:46 <Ysjoelfir> well, nowadays you possibly can. but for what price?
06:30:03 <Lemon> id prefer first an electrometer
06:30:12 <rust_collector> Lemon, I think I remember someone mentioning something about your desk...?
06:30:15 <Lemon> like a keithley 616
06:30:27 <Lemon> haha yes its a problem, but I'll make space
06:30:51 <Lemon> Im going to buy a small flat piece of wood to put my workstation on, and tidy all cables
06:30:58 <Lemon> so I'll have a table free
06:31:26 <Ysjoelfir> as I said, you need a tek 555 with the scope cart
06:31:34 <Ysjoelfir> plenty of additional space to put stuff onto!
06:31:38 <Lemon> haha maybe the cart yes !
06:31:44 <rust_collector> your computer junk can sit on a box on casters
06:31:52 <Lemon> but as much as I like thoe big bois, id rather get a big boi that I'll use
06:31:58 <Lemon> like a 7854 :>
06:32:01 <Lemon> a man can dream !
06:32:15 <Lemon> my... 'computer junk' ??
06:32:27 <rust_collector> yes, that stuff
06:32:30 <Lemon> you meant my beautiful bi-cpu beast ? :>
06:32:41 <Lemon> that fucking weight like, 35kg ?
06:32:44 <rust_collector> meh, it is still just a computer
06:33:00 <rust_collector> but that makes the casters an even better idea
06:34:03 <Lemon> the big relief will be when I get some crocodile/grabbers clip on
06:34:23 <Lemon> im so tired of those slippery silicone shitty crocs
06:34:42 <rust_collector> yeah, the crocodile strapon is pretty sexy
06:34:58 <Lemon> the one I'll buy are from mueller, I like this brand
06:35:09 <Lemon> I have some dmm probes which come from my father
06:35:16 <Lemon> he used them for decades, they are really nice
06:35:26 <Lemon> I wish every cable would be like this
06:35:46 <Lemon> https://www.digikey.fr/product-detail/fr/BU-110-0/314-1365-ND/5080229
06:35:49 <Lemon> im getting those rusty
06:37:05 <Lemon> along with those https://www.digikey.fr/product-detail/fr/8036R%2fB/461-1218-ND/574037
06:37:23 <Lemon> not from mueller but meh they are nice
06:37:27 <rust_collector> well, have fun, I am going out for a bit
06:37:35 <Lemon> alrighty see you bud
06:39:36 <Ysjoelfir> noooo, rusty is leaving!
06:39:48 <Lemon> :(
06:40:47 <Lemon> id like to get an arbitrary waveform gen, but idk why I dislike chinese ones
06:41:16 <Ysjoelfir> I have heard you want to gift me a TIG welder or the gas bottle for my birthday?
06:41:37 <Lemon> hmmm will a chinese soldering iron do ? :P
06:42:04 <Lemon> I mean, you can weld with it !
06:42:19 <Ysjoelfir> no.
06:42:22 <Ysjoelfir> I want TIG
06:42:31 <Ysjoelfir> AC TIG to be precise
06:42:34 <Lemon> what for ? :>
06:42:38 <Lemon> you have some projects in mind ?
06:42:42 <Ysjoelfir> to weld alumumum
06:42:43 <Lemon> I admit its a nice thing to have
06:43:11 <Lemon> dont tell me you'll weld in your crowded room please :P
06:43:12 <Ysjoelfir> yes, actually I have. I want to finally finish my bicycle push (or better pull-)cart thing
06:43:29 <Lemon> I'll want pictures of it !
06:44:38 <Ysjoelfir> ou will get them when I get my welder :D
06:44:49 <Lemon> hehe :P
06:45:13 <Lemon> how are buttons on the 3456a ?
06:45:17 <Lemon> they look so nice
06:45:24 <Lemon> are they clicky ?
06:46:45 <Ysjoelfir> there are two versions of the 3456A, one version with squishy, rubbery, remote-control style buttons, and one with hard plastic ones that have a pretty satisfying click
06:46:59 <Lemon> idk why but I love this thing
06:47:04 <Lemon> im really tempted to get one :>
06:47:22 <Lemon> the one on the equipement surplus website, it would cost me around 200 euros with shipping
06:47:27 <Lemon> which is nice
06:47:46 <Lemon> but its a true 6.5 digits ?
06:47:54 <Lemon> or a 5.5 that got a resolution of 6.5
06:50:15 <Ysjoelfir> 6.5
06:51:15 <Lemon> :>>>>
06:51:41 <Lemon> its like the fluke, the last digit is a hi res mode ?
06:51:44 <Lemon> or something like that ?
07:06:26 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1758634316.htm/
07:06:28 <Lemon> im tempted !
07:08:20 <Lemon> hmmm I dont know what are those cables https://img7.leboncoin.fr/ad-large/4ce7c7956ab945cb326afa3e9b6303eeb977590d.jpg
07:16:15 <Lemon> I feel alone !
07:20:45 <Ysjoelfir> get it!
07:20:50 <Ysjoelfir> whhich cables?
07:21:05 <Lemon> can you plug 4mm probes on this ?
07:21:08 <Lemon> looking at the back
07:21:31 <Ysjoelfir> and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es2Fqc5Ij6I
07:21:49 <Lemon> thanks I feel better now !
07:21:58 <Lemon> but yeah, 15 euros with shipping im tempted
07:22:04 <Lemon> Idk if it works, etc etc
07:22:05 <Ysjoelfir> I assume the entrance is something like a Tuchelstecker?
07:22:17 <Lemon> I still dont really now its purpose :> but im intrigued about it
07:23:04 <Lemon> a tuchelstecker ? :>
07:23:06 <Ampera> I am now on David McWilliams
07:23:59 <Lemon> I also saw this, idk if its a good deal https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/1551389653.htm/
07:24:03 <Lemon> looks like it
07:24:25 <Ampera> oooh, Dion now
07:28:02 <Lemon> if I had the money I'd get it I think https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1731202896.htm/
07:28:19 <Lemon> 320 euros for a 500 mhz, 1gs/s tektronix scope is quite nice
07:30:05 <Ampera> Lemon, I think you might be addicted to test equipment
07:30:20 <Lemon> I totally am
07:30:44 <Lemon> lol ! https://www.leboncoin.fr/image_son/1759143220.htm/
07:31:05 <Lemon> I bought the model a tad superior for 20 euros :>
07:31:42 <Lemon> some people value their stuff a sentimental price
07:32:05 <Lemon> 350 euros for a 2mhz low end function generator, hmmmm
07:37:30 <Ysjoelfir> you and your MILLIhertzes :P
07:43:49 <Lemon> hrmmm
07:43:52 <Lemon> Mhz :>
07:44:12 <Lemon> so about the conductimeter, do you think, looking at the picture, that regular 4mm banana probes will do ?
07:44:50 <Lemon> im still afraid of getting another analog device by postal services, because of the poor triplett
07:44:52 <Lemon> but well
07:45:07 <Lemon> ho also I checked the multavi 5 with the Vref, its freaking bang on !
07:45:18 <Lemon> thats so impressive for a maybe 70 y/o boi
07:45:30 <Ysjoelfir> I dont think so.
07:45:37 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, the multavis are great :=)
07:45:49 <Lemon> I love it !
07:46:01 <Lemon> I'd love to find some sort of stand to use it
07:46:06 <Lemon> but idk if it can be used like that
07:46:11 <Lemon> maybe it needs to lay flat
07:56:55 <mamalala> aloha everyone
07:57:01 <Lemon> hey !
07:57:10 <Ampera> hullo
07:57:11 <Lemon> how you doing ?
07:57:19 <mamalala> sweet smell of statistics and spreadsheets
07:57:25 <Ampera> something neat about my work's vending machine I learned today
07:57:36 <Ampera> it gives you dollar coins if you feed it a five dollar bill
07:57:44 <Ampera> dollar coins being notably uncommon in the US
07:57:47 <mamalala> doing fine so far... created yet more silly spreadsheets for the IWTO...
07:57:52 <Ampera> them and 2 dollar bills
07:58:00 <Lemon> hooo thats neat
07:58:09 <Lemon> I have a framed 2 dollar bill I think
07:58:13 <Lemon> a new one probably
07:58:27 <Ampera> I used to have a few
07:58:34 <Ampera> I could buy them right now if I wanted to, fresh from the mint
07:58:42 <Lemon> do you guys work with anti esd wirst thingies ?
07:58:48 <Ampera> that being said I don't know if I'd /buy/ money like that
07:58:57 <Ampera> Lemon, I tend to not use them, have never had a problem with electronics
07:59:00 <Ampera> your mileage may vary
07:59:01 <mamalala> Lemon: sometimes, yes
07:59:19 <Lemon> well I never had a problem either, and I manipulated tons of pc parts for years
07:59:31 <Lemon> the only thing I do usually is touch something grounded prior to do something
08:00:07 <Lemon> my father also never got any problems, and he worked for 40 years with electronics/computers
08:00:11 <Lemon> so yeah idk
08:00:16 <Lemon> sometimes im worried
08:00:29 <Lemon> but im always ultra precautious about my stuff
08:02:04 <Ampera> you know, I kinda want to buy a load of groceries with nothing but dollar coins
08:02:32 <Ampera> that being said, I think that's also a stupid idea
08:02:46 <Lemon> heh why not
08:02:59 <Lemon> I once paid a macdonald order of around 10 euros only with copper coins :>
08:03:08 <Lemon> (5 cents and under)
08:03:23 <Lemon> poor girl, she counted it like 3 times
08:04:46 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/TESTED-SOLARTRON-SCHLUMBERGER-7081-PRECISION-VOLTMETER-110-120-220-240-V-40VA/233042690004?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140423084956%26meid%3Df6d2d253f2804960b62a4fc0faac931e%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D7%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D153595514609%26itm%3D233042690004%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2045573&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042 the person who bought
08:04:46 <Lemon> it made a really nice deal
08:04:59 <Lemon> 1275 euros for a working 8.5 digit dmm, damn son
08:05:17 <Lemon> dvm, not dmm
08:06:32 <mamalala> Lemon: and, any new results after you had the voltage ref and the fluke on overnight?
08:07:09 <Lemon> still the same ! 9.99982, today I tried to adjust the systron donner, I took the 23mv offset on the 10v range down to 5.4v, thats the maximum I can do
08:07:14 <Lemon> but it seems it got a problem
08:07:20 <Lemon> such a big offset on only one range is weird
08:07:33 <Lemon> also linearity is wrong, at 13v for example theres a 8mv offset
08:08:32 <Lemon> ima bit sad about it I dont know what to do
08:08:40 <Lemon> the manual isnt helping a lot on that part
08:13:15 <Lemon> pff I keep finding nice things priced decently, except for shipping
08:13:21 <Lemon> which is always a ton
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08:28:14 <Ampera> I've gotten to ELO!
08:28:17 <Ampera> yee
08:38:35 <Lemon> time to sleep peeps
08:38:38 <Lemon> see you tommorow ! :>
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08:53:49 <Ysjoelfir> woah! Electrical licht orchestra, Ampera?
08:54:17 <Ampera> Yep
08:54:25 <Ysjoelfir> don't bring me dooooown
08:54:27 <Ampera> How are you doing, I'm in the car on my way home
08:54:35 <Ampera> GruĂź
08:55:14 <Ysjoelfir> tired, ready to go to bed soon^^ enjoy your.... erm.... Feierabend. end of workday thing :D
08:55:35 <Ampera> My what?
08:56:12 <Ysjoelfir> closing time, after work,... in germany we say Feierabend^^
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09:17:46 <rust_collector> ok, that was a day
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17:16:17 <rust_collector> about time...
17:16:44 <steve30> Well, RasPBX seems to work on this new SD card
17:19:54 <Ysjoelfir> Hi all
17:20:10 <rust_collector> hi
17:20:48 <rust_collector> steve30, that looks strange, but interesting-ish. have fun with that.
17:21:02 <rust_collector> I am going to work... good night
17:22:16 <Ysjoelfir> Have fun rusty :)
17:22:25 * Ysjoelfir waves to rusty, sitting at work
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18:32:45 <Ysjoelfir> hello DogWomble, hsn93, steve3billion and others :D
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18:47:21 <hsn93> hello isyolfir
18:47:44 <hsn93> excuse me i have to say it this way for few days so i dont say (j) instead of (y)
18:54:59 <Ysjoelfir> :O shame on you!!!11111one
18:59:25 <hsn93> why ?
19:00:02 <Ysjoelfir> I dont know :)
19:06:13 <hsn93> no plans to post on your youtube channel
19:06:14 <hsn93> ?
19:07:23 <Ysjoelfir> actually there are plans. I finished my study recently, so now I am clearing out some stock in the lab and preparing to make some new videos. I intent do further enhance them, but I don't have the money for a new camera, better lighting and so on. So I will see what I can do
19:10:41 <hsn93> https://youtu.be/oktBQXH7NhI?t=430 << lol
19:10:56 <hsn93> i defeated it :P
19:16:27 <hsn93> Ysjoelfir , so whats is this (Wow authinticator) doing?
19:17:47 <Ysjoelfir> it is creating a code you need to login to blizzard services, if you want to protect your accound
19:22:40 <hsn93> with usb?
19:24:07 <hsn93> does it connect to wifi and their servers .. and its also linked to your account ?
19:25:28 <Ysjoelfir> no, it doesn't connect to anything. it's completely stand alone. yes, it is linked to your account
19:27:01 <hsn93> how it works offline .. how does server know that this code is really on the device?
19:27:14 <Ysjoelfir> timing
19:27:54 <hsn93> do you adjust time for it ?
19:28:02 <hsn93> time and date?
19:28:15 <Ysjoelfir> no. it calculates the code based on its internal timer and a unique key linked to your account
19:28:30 <Ysjoelfir> the server knows the code and when the timer was started, done
19:29:57 <hsn93> i dont understand how the server timing is synced with it
19:31:26 <Ysjoelfir> when the battery is inserted while manufacturing the server gets the information that device X starts now
19:31:30 <Ysjoelfir> no syncing
19:33:09 <hsn93> right .. so when u replace battery .. it doesnt work ..
19:33:10 <hsn93> ?
19:33:26 <hsn93> because u just lost that timer .. ?
19:34:34 <Ysjoelfir> you have a time frame of 60 seconds between code generations, so since I was fast enough it still works
19:35:58 <hsn93> so actually it has timer that keeps updating a non-volatile memory !?
19:38:00 <hsn93> or its actually a (volatile memory) that didnt lose data (ie not a single bit flip) because u was fast ?
19:40:46 <hsn93> i mean if its timing -- then its RTC ? if its RTC that works on battery .. then removing battery will disturb it i guess ?
19:42:18 <hsn93> unless u save that RTC value in non-volatile memory ? or that RTC actually has internal battery??! and the battery u removed just for screen and mcu communicating with rtc?
19:43:31 <Ysjoelfir> I have no freakin idea how it does that exactly :D I just know the basic theory of that thing
19:46:36 <Halcyon_> Fuck people are stupid
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19:46:52 <Halcyon> BRB
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19:46:57 <Ysjoelfir> thats the usual case. But what ecactly....
19:46:59 <Ysjoelfir> happened...
19:47:00 <Ysjoelfir> erm
19:47:02 <Ysjoelfir> bye :D
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19:47:24 <Ysjoelfir> wb
19:47:36 <Halcyon> :)
19:47:45 <Ysjoelfir> you seem just slightly pissed
19:47:55 <Halcyon> I honestly don't get this idiotic behaviour of panic-buying toilet paper
19:48:05 <Halcyon> It seems that society just has no idea
19:48:13 <Ysjoelfir> XD I so agree
19:48:41 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, IF there will be a real emergency situation... I assume toilet paper is one of the last things I would be ultra worried about
19:48:42 <Halcyon> I'm honestly scared that humanity will get to the point where people are too dumb to function
19:48:45 <hsn93> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMKXbLBgkEc << lol --- CAR vs. WORLD’S STRONGEST TRAMPOLINE- 150ft (45m) drop
19:48:52 <Halcyon> Exactly
19:49:02 <Halcyon> Just wash yourself in the shower, it's not that hard
19:49:08 <Ysjoelfir> true
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19:49:28 <Ysjoelfir> I actually got ourself one of those ass wash spray nozzle adapter things you can mount under the toilet seat
19:49:30 <Ysjoelfir> it's great!
19:49:30 <Halcyon> Or, worst case, cotton towels
19:49:35 <Halcyon> Oh nice
19:49:37 <Halcyon> :)
19:49:38 <Ysjoelfir> reduced our toilet paper consumption by more than 75%
19:49:54 <Halcyon> A shot of cold water up the ass :P
19:50:09 <Ysjoelfir> it connects to cold and warm water!
19:50:20 <Halcyon> Oooh fancy
19:50:26 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely
19:50:32 <steve30> I normally have large stocks of toilet paper as i get through quite a lot. No idea why anyone would panic buy though.
19:50:59 <steve30> I still have to wash my bottom in the shower sometime as well.
19:51:01 <Ysjoelfir> actually I got that for the girlfriend when she starts to leak once a month. but I noticed that it can shoot either to the front or the back, and it's actually pretty nice using that
19:51:29 <steve30> In more relevant news, I just set up a newer version of Asterisk on a Raspberry Pi
19:54:42 <Halcyon> I order them by the box anyway every few months
19:54:46 <Halcyon> I have 45 rolls or something left
19:54:59 <Halcyon> I just had bulk-buying them, then having to carry them around the supermarket.
19:55:11 <Halcyon> Nice Steve :)
19:55:38 <Halcyon> Well, regardless of TP supply, people *should* wash themselves in the shower
19:55:47 <Halcyon> I have a shower head which makes that easy
19:58:22 <Ysjoelfir> I just don't understand that whole bulk buying stuff at all
19:58:43 <Halcyon> I don't either. People are clueless and I suspect most have no idea why they are doing it
19:58:52 <Halcyon> Supplies will return to normal in a few days.
19:59:37 <Ysjoelfir> IF they don't keep on to gather just even more shit
20:01:45 * steve30 is going out for an eye test later
20:01:56 <Ysjoelfir> whats wrong with your eyes, tseve?
20:02:22 <steve30> I'm short sighted
20:03:01 <Ysjoelfir> well, better to see stuff just before you run into it instead of seeing it and then still run into it when it's close enough :)
20:06:08 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, The gf is in a "corona preparation" facebook group (just to shake heads). she just shared a screenshot with me. A girl writes (roughly translated): I just came back from shopping. My stock is now: 10kg nuts, 100 packets sandwich toast, 10 liters veg. oil, 25 kg flour, 20 packets noodles, 10 packets rice, 10 packets margarine, 150 packets of toilet paper (15 rolls each), 20 packs of matches, 10 boxes of milk powder, 50 kg
20:06:09 <Ysjoelfir> sugar, 10l water, 10 boxes of whine, 5 boxes of beer, 5 liters burning alcohol.
20:06:41 <Halcyon> Umm
20:06:50 <Halcyon> The wine I agree with :P
20:07:11 <Ysjoelfir> ma thoughts on that: so she will be eating raw (as soon as the 5l burnign alcohol is gone) or in wine cooked noodles and rice, with a sauce made from sweetened flour, as soon as the 10 liters of water are gone?
20:07:23 <Ysjoelfir> *my
20:07:23 <Halcyon> The main problem I have is, nuts go rancid, as does oil, margarine and bread
20:07:32 <Halcyon> Unless you freeze it, but then using it becomes a problem
20:07:37 <Ysjoelfir> exactly, that's why I didn't mention that
20:08:07 <Halcyon> Then with things like flour, rice and pasta, unless you store it properly in a well sealed vessel, bugs get in them
20:08:23 <Halcyon> I guess that's just extra protein though, so a win for the preppers perhaps?
20:08:40 <Ysjoelfir> xD maybe?^^
20:08:46 <steve30> I sometimes eat rice that contains rice weevils etc
20:08:53 <steve30> Although i do try and pick out the excess ones
20:08:55 <Ysjoelfir> whats that?
20:08:59 <Halcyon> Again, it comes down to people's stupidity, impulsiveness and just following the herd in general
20:09:22 <Halcyon> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weevil
20:09:27 <Ysjoelfir> ah, i googled it. they look pretty cute :D
20:09:43 <Halcyon> Little bugs that feed on dried foods like rice, flour and corn
20:09:53 <steve30> Also, I have Chinesium on its way... probably to be delivered in a couple of days.
20:10:06 <Halcyon> Oh, what did you purchase?
20:10:16 <steve30> PWM dimmers for LEDs
20:10:29 <Halcyon> Low voltage I assume?
20:10:34 <steve30> yes
20:10:44 <Halcyon> Hooray, no house fires for Steve
20:29:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Michael Mazengarb: Feeling dumber for watching this. LNP senator Gerard Rennick argues Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle (which describes quantum scale effects), means we can't accurately model the climate (somewhat larger than quantum scale). Head of the CSIRO patiently explains why he's wrong. https://t.co/iBUcZTr2Un
20:31:37 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Joseph Skewes: Meanwhile, at the factory... https://t.co/o2XGJFWrG2
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20:37:55 <steve30> Wow, 53 people in the UK have coronavirus. Must be bad if such a high number have it.
20:38:14 <Halcyon> 53 people have nothing
20:38:17 <Halcyon> *is
20:38:31 <Halcyon> More people get STDs every day
20:38:36 <steve30> ^
20:39:01 <steve30> Makes me want to cough over people just for the fun of it :D
20:39:14 <Halcyon> The problem I have with these graphs and figures the news is publishing is that "OMG, thousands of infections"... OK, sure... but how many of those has since been cured of the virus?
20:39:27 <Halcyon> I would love to see the stats on CURRENT infections
20:39:49 <steve30> "He said it was likely "a few" older and more vulnerable people will die if they become infected.
20:39:49 <steve30> However, he stressed that flu kills 8,000 people in the UK, in an average year."
20:39:54 <Halcyon> Honestly, people are just stupid, I can't put it any other way.
20:40:07 <Halcyon> Just carry on as normal, wash your hands and you'll be fine
20:40:27 <Halcyon> Those who get ill already have compromised immune systems
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20:45:53 <Ysjoelfir> Dave seems to be on a twitter spree?
20:46:00 <Halcyon> Heh
20:46:11 <Halcyon> Yeh he must be catching up on his feed at the end of the day
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20:46:23 <Ysjoelfir> honestly, I just don't get peoples obsession with twitter^^
20:46:29 <Ysjoelfir> for me that is just.... spam
20:46:38 <Halcyon> I don't use any social media
20:46:40 <Ysjoelfir> just as watching TV
20:46:53 <Halcyon> Yup
20:46:58 <Halcyon> I don't watch TV either
20:47:03 <Ysjoelfir> same. I HAVE actually accounts there, but I made them quite some years back and never realy used it since
20:47:12 <hsn> do u watch porn ?
20:47:18 <Halcyon> Yep
20:47:20 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely
20:47:24 <hsn> thats why :)
20:47:42 <Ysjoelfir> nah. watching porn just causes bend fingers on the right hand.
20:47:50 <Ysjoelfir> bent?
20:47:51 <Ysjoelfir> bend?
20:47:52 <Ysjoelfir> whatever
20:48:02 <hsn> u dont watch tv becasue u hav alternative (porn)
20:48:06 <Halcyon> I use my left hand
20:48:17 <hsn> bigger muscle ?
20:48:30 <Halcyon> Evens it out from my mouse hand :P
20:48:42 <Ysjoelfir> I don't watch tv because it sucks :D and not in the good way of sucking
20:49:03 <steve30> I watch a small amount of TV]
20:49:06 <hsn> sucks with teeth ?
20:49:13 <hsn> teeth scratches
20:49:15 <hsn> :)
20:49:29 <Ysjoelfir> yikes
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20:49:47 <hsn> i watch nitflix
20:49:53 <hsn> netflix .. whatever
20:50:21 <hsn> i installed netflix on my siglent oscilliscope :)
20:50:52 <hsn> and watch some (serieses)
20:51:28 <Halcyon> hsn, it's a known fact that guys are better at blowjobs than women :P
20:52:20 <hsn> and just to prove my theory (its known fact that women watch TV more than guys)
20:52:23 <hsn> :P
20:52:28 <Halcyon> Heh
20:53:05 <hsn> wait blowjobs != masterbuting ..
20:53:18 <Halcyon> Yes, two different things :P
20:53:20 <Halcyon> Very much so
20:53:32 <hsn> my english dictionary is crap
20:53:53 <steve30> Halcyon, have you tested that fact?
20:54:24 <hsn> non distructive test (NDT)
20:54:24 <Halcyon> No
20:54:39 <Halcyon> But I have anecdotal evidence from many Straight guys
20:54:43 <Halcyon> Well
20:54:45 <Halcyon> Bi guys
20:54:53 <Halcyon> Or Straight guys who have "dabbled"
20:55:42 <hsn> i remember Ysjoelfir did say somthing about that ?
20:56:06 <Halcyon> :P
20:57:46 <hsn> i've meeting with big boss today
20:58:48 <hsn> my (small direct boss) doesnt want me to say that (im not enough for what im doing and we need extra people / i will be bottlenick in future) stuff to the big boss
21:03:45 <hsn> isnt this sexy : https://snipboard.io/J09SYT.jpg
21:07:23 <steve30> I should go out. Back later.
21:08:36 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2C8cvrWBBE
21:08:46 <Halcyon> From my homeland
21:10:09 <Halcyon> '
21:32:54 <Ysjoelfir> I read my name?
21:33:45 <Ysjoelfir> thats a pretty nice drawing hsn :) and what did you remember me saying? :D
21:34:14 <Ysjoelfir> aaaah, those fins. Halcyon. I assume you also did try Surströmming from right over the border?
21:36:28 <Ysjoelfir> "does not contain cock." XD
21:41:35 <Ysjoelfir> that looks so tasty! Even though it's from a can, I want it!
21:42:18 <Halcyon> I never have no
21:42:26 <Halcyon> Yeh it doesn't look half bad
21:42:39 <Halcyon> The Finns do good food and know how to drink
21:43:38 <Halcyon> I love the food we have on this planet. I haven't really found anything I don't like.
21:44:20 <Ysjoelfir> I am actually pretty fascinated by general scandinavian cuisine. When I went to norway I enjoyed many things that I thought would be pretty.... bad (?), but I enjoyed most of it.
21:45:28 <Halcyon> I think that's the way to enjoy food... I say, try anything as long as it's from a reputable (clean) place
21:45:36 <Halcyon> I have surprised myself also
21:46:49 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, there aren't many things I dislike either and I try most things. I personally don't like eating stuff like insects (more because you see that it's a whole insect, compared to a (peeled, i don't like unpeeled) shrimp) and some slimey or ... sea-y veggies like seaweed, algae and stuff like that.
21:47:16 <Ysjoelfir> beside that: I pretty much at least tried everything yet
21:47:55 <Halcyon> Yeh agreed
21:48:02 <Halcyon> I also hate celery
21:48:27 <Ysjoelfir> oh, i love celery. but the gf hates it, too.
21:48:33 <Halcyon> Tastes like metal
21:48:43 <Ysjoelfir> or better, I love celery.... erm... root?
21:48:51 <Ysjoelfir> and the green parts are ok in soups if finely chopped
21:48:58 <Halcyon> I will cook with it, but that's about it
21:49:22 <Ysjoelfir> but I usually use the root if I cook with it and slice it so damn small that the gf doesn't notice it
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21:50:19 <Lemon> waddup !
21:50:22 <Halcyon> Hey Remon
21:50:34 <Ysjoelfir> We went to a "viking feast" [sic] once and they had besides many others also baked celery. that was so nice and tender, tasted great!
21:50:43 <Ysjoelfir> hey Nomel :)
21:51:16 <Lemon> hey hey !
21:51:19 <Halcyon> I should probably address you as a proper Finn
21:51:34 <Halcyon> Hei sitruuna
21:51:50 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
21:54:52 <Lemon> a woman just knocked on the door right now, to bring some money as my father helped her some months ago by phone and she didnt have the time to come since
21:54:59 <Lemon> its always so hard
21:56:56 <Lemon> its even harder for my mother
21:57:06 <Halcyon> ?
21:57:31 <Lemon> my father passed away on may last year
21:57:38 <Halcyon> Oh right
21:57:40 <Lemon> and theres still people that comes, once in a while
21:57:41 <Halcyon> I'm sorry mate :(
21:57:56 <Ysjoelfir> oh :( thats sad..
21:57:57 <Lemon> thats alright
21:58:06 * Halcyon cuddles Lemon
21:58:11 <Lemon> my mother lost her father, her brother and now her husband
21:58:46 <Halcyon> Your father sounded like a good man. The fact people still come knocking.
21:59:24 <Lemon> he was an electronics/computer engeener, but on the last years he was simply fixing computers at home, and would ask close to nothing
21:59:36 <Lemon> some people would abuse it, some would be really grateful
21:59:56 <Lemon> as they know that 3 hours for 30 euros is kinda cheap, compared to the regular 70 euros an hour
22:01:11 * Halcyon licks Lemon
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22:01:50 <Halcyon> Welcome back hsn
22:02:11 <Ysjoelfir> that is indeed pretty cheap.
22:02:26 * Ysjoelfir hands Halcyon some tequila
22:02:33 <Halcyon> \o/
22:02:54 <hsn> hi
22:03:00 <hsn> thx
22:03:20 <hsn> <Ysjoelfir> thats a pretty nice drawing hsn :) and what did you remember me saying? :D
22:03:25 <hsn> i doont follow up ^
22:03:49 <hsn> ohh
22:03:59 <hsn> about (bi sexual) thingy
22:04:22 <Halcyon> Who's bi?
22:04:31 <Halcyon> Oh Ysjoelfir
22:04:32 <hsn> this atmel debugger is inserting keys // missing keys when i write with keyboard ..
22:04:39 <Halcyon> That's right, and hung like a horse apparently :P
22:04:54 <Ysjoelfir> wutt? :D
22:05:06 <hsn> yeah Halcyon ..
22:05:08 <Halcyon> I'm starting a new rumour :P
22:05:16 <Ysjoelfir> xD
22:05:27 <hsn> see atmel debugger caused the keyboard to put too many "l" letter even though im not pressing it
22:05:36 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/lJeajK.jpg
22:05:49 <Ysjoelfir> xD stupid debugger
22:06:10 <Halcyon> Meanwhile I'm downloading Mandrake Linux
22:07:22 <hsn> i only run distros from DARPA
22:07:23 <hsn> :)
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22:08:31 <Ysjoelfir> meanwhile I am (becuase the boss wants me to) looking for things I could do if corona would strike and the factory would have to close
22:08:43 <hsn> for real
22:08:44 <hsn> ?
22:08:48 <Ysjoelfir> yes
22:08:55 <hsn> what r u
22:09:07 <Ysjoelfir> a human being I assume
22:09:14 <hsn> tell him to buy lots of detol
22:09:15 <hsn> :)
22:09:25 <Ysjoelfir> thats actually impossible in germany right now.
22:09:37 <hsn> (corona wine)
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22:09:43 <hsn> fight corona with corona
22:09:43 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
22:10:14 <hsn> Ysjoelfir u r not bi ?
22:10:52 <Ysjoelfir> I am, but with a tendence to hetero
22:11:01 <Halcyon> Which is a shame :P
22:11:08 <Ysjoelfir> xD
22:11:40 <hsn> hetero = straight?
22:12:07 <Halcyon> Yes
22:12:46 <hsn> did u have sexual experience with men ?
22:12:59 <Ysjoelfir> yes
22:13:13 <hsn> which one do better blowjob ?
22:13:17 <hsn> women or men ?
22:13:19 <Ysjoelfir> XD
22:13:21 <hsn> xD
22:13:28 <Ysjoelfir> men
22:13:36 <Halcyon> Hahaha
22:13:43 <hsn> damn it
22:13:48 <hsn> xD
22:16:07 <hsn> Halcyon do u do dissassembly stuff ?
22:16:24 <Halcyon> Only when I need to
22:16:46 <hsn> can i ask for somthing
22:18:04 <hsn> i've got this (atmel studio) with (disassembly tab) only showing when im in (debug mode with "in circuit debugger tool") .. i like that it shows c line near assembly
22:18:07 <hsn> like this : https://snipboard.io/L83vH5.jpg
22:18:22 <hsn> do i've gnu alternative way to do it ?
22:18:44 <Halcyon> Oh you mean software disassembly. Hahaha, no. I fucking hate it.
22:18:56 <Halcyon> I am not a programmer at all. I normally go to other people for this
22:19:07 <hsn> ah
22:19:18 <Halcyon> I am very much a hardware person
22:19:20 <hsn> i thought u do this from your linux experience :P
22:19:32 <Halcyon> Nah
22:19:41 <Halcyon> I was forced to do it at University
22:20:23 <hsn> i think my University didnt know this exist :)
22:23:55 <hsn> tmux is super complicated
22:27:26 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJDg3lMlmBU
22:27:50 <Halcyon> I love Atomic Shrimp
22:28:05 <Ysjoelfir> watching videos like that I always think that I should value stuff way more than I do, even though I always try my besto to not throw away anything if not absolutely neccessary
22:28:14 <Halcyon> Likewise
22:28:34 <Halcyon> I easily spend AUD$500-600 on food per month
22:28:54 <Ysjoelfir> it's stuff like... "hm. there is that little sachet of ketchup left. nah, we won't eat it ever, lets scrap it"
22:29:38 <Ysjoelfir> I am evaluating how much we spend on food since march 1st, so I can tell you at april :P
22:30:12 <Halcyon> What do you use to manage your budget?
22:30:19 <Halcyon> Any software tools?
22:30:42 <Ysjoelfir> not sure if there are any good ones. I just bought a "Kakebo"
22:30:53 <Halcyon> I use YNAB (You Need A Budget)
22:31:00 <Halcyon> I can give you my licence if you like?
22:31:07 <Ysjoelfir> its a japanese style budget book
22:31:17 <Ysjoelfir> is it good? I may would like to try it :)
22:31:22 <Halcyon> They have moved away from the Windows-based program to a subscription-based web tool
22:31:29 <Halcyon> But I still use the older version. I love it.
22:31:57 <Ysjoelfir> meh. webtools :S I would also prefer a stand alone software. so, if I could take a look I would definitely like to :) but first: lunch! ^^
22:31:59 <Halcyon> Been using it for years
22:32:18 <Halcyon> Do you have somewhere where I can upload it?
22:32:29 <Ysjoelfir> erm.... wait.
22:34:09 <hsn> this is (pound sterling) ?
22:34:13 <hsn> in the video ?
22:35:00 <Ysjoelfir> yes it is :)
22:35:06 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, did you get my message?
22:35:07 <Ysjoelfir> ah you did
22:36:18 <hsn> the label on the onion looks funny at cashier
22:36:42 <hsn> + the label is saying (onions) while its only single onion !
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23:00:52 <hsn> wb
23:01:18 <Ysjoelfir> thanks
23:01:22 <Ysjoelfir> I enjoyed my meal very much
23:01:46 <Ysjoelfir> Had a nice Grillplatte. Or... barbecue platter? Don't know if that is a thing worldwide
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23:08:14 <hsn> wtf is this https://snipboard.io/CRpKgW.jpg
23:08:30 <hsn> 0.33333 pound meal Ysjeolfir ?
23:09:14 <hsn> yes we've lots here
23:09:18 <hsn> i love grills
23:09:28 <hsn> grills and girls
23:09:37 <Ysjoelfir> i have no idea. looks interesting though.
23:09:40 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D
23:10:58 <hsn> looks like its "relax mind wave" thingy
23:21:27 <coppice_> I don't like grills. they separate me from the girls
23:22:50 <Ysjoelfir> why do they do that? the girls I am interested in love grilling :D
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23:31:06 <Lemon> im gonna try to adjust the Vref on the systron donner today
23:31:13 <Lemon> to see if I can fix roughly the 10v range
23:31:40 <Ysjoelfir> are you sure that this is the way to go?
23:32:04 <Lemon> well I dont know but the 10v adjust can go down enough, it took the 23mv offset down to 5
23:32:12 <Lemon> 5 is still a lot
23:32:26 <Ysjoelfir> but you have that offset only on one range, don't you?
23:32:34 <Lemon> yeah thats true
23:32:43 <Lemon> you are right
23:32:47 <Lemon> it will fuckup other ranges
23:32:51 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
23:33:03 <Lemon> theres a slight offset on other ranges but no big deal
23:33:31 <Ysjoelfir> well, at least if the ref is common to all ranges I would assume it's a problem
23:34:23 <Lemon> I think it is
23:34:34 <Lemon> I'll look again and show you
23:34:48 <Lemon> I want it to be at least in 1 year specs or close
23:49:13 <hsn> great meeting went well
23:49:49 <hsn> lemonizer how is the offset going ?
23:50:23 <hsn> still same yesterday
23:50:31 <Lemon> well im letting the systron warm, right now im looking at a 100mH decade box that seems to be faulty, somehow
23:50:44 <Ysjoelfir> :O
23:50:52 <Ysjoelfir> you killed my good sennheiser decade box?
23:51:43 <hsn> inducance decade box .. works for low frequencies only?
23:51:54 <Ysjoelfir> what did you do, bash it with a baguette?
23:52:04 <hsn> or pretty well defined at high frequency?
23:52:09 <Lemon> I did nothing !
23:52:25 <Lemon> since I got it, its not reading anything besides on the '4' which indeed reads 400mH or so
23:52:39 <Ysjoelfir> I would assume the switch is crusty
23:52:42 <Lemon> the other one works perfect and is almost bang on
23:52:51 <Lemon> im trying to probe the insides
23:53:01 <Ysjoelfir> since those things were sitting for the last.... potentially 40 years on a shelve inside the university
23:53:48 <hsn> what is the benifit of it?
23:54:14 <hsn> smps tinkering ?
23:54:19 <hsn> filters?
23:57:59 <Lemon> well i dont get it it looks clean
23:58:54 <Ysjoelfir> but?
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23:59:06 <Ysjoelfir> hsn: thats a perfect question for the Lemon!