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34:23 <Brunius> Avatar: Why?
49:24 <Brunius_> s_gmusic baby blue and magenta
05:16 <Avatar> thx
05:35 <Avatar> no, from scratch
05:44 <Avatar> like what are you doing when you buy a spell and it goes straight into your spellbook
38:02 <steven> hey.
46:45 <Mekkis> Darkkapow, I've heard about Dark Heresy... Exactly who are you supposed to be playing in the rather horrible universe that is 40k?
47:45 <s_gmusic> if 40k's horrible, mekkis, what do you play?
47:55 <Avatar> ya
48:12 <Mekkis> I'm saying that the 40k UNIVERSE is horrible...
48:33 <Mekkis> (are you seriously contesting that statement?)
48:44 <steven> hey
49:10 <steven> lasagna.  Pretty good stuff.
49:10 <Avatar> why's it horrible
49:44 <Brunius_> "A war economy can't last that long"
49:50 <Mekkis> is there anywhere in it where you'd be happy to live in?
50:05 <Brunius_> rear-line tau worlds wouldn't be bad
50:50 <Mekkis> s/bad/completely horrible/
51:19 <s_gmusic> Sorry, Avatar. for me, it's always "scribe" or "copy" when it comes to writing spells, whether in a scroll or spellbook. exception would be the spells you gain when you level up, which I handwaved as "You've learned enough to figure out how to get this kind of spell effect."
51:24 <s_gmusic> ah. normally when I hear something's "horrible", it's more because that person plays a rival game. haven't seen any 40k lore except for a blurb about End Times (which made no sense and seemed really fucked up)
51:57 <Brunius_> haven't heard of end times
52:03 <Mekkis> s_gmusic: Also, I don't play any mini-based wargames
52:18 <s_gmusic> gotcha
53:27 <Mekkis> Did they seriously omit the "Monsters By CR" section from the Monster Manual in 5e?
57:55 <s_gmusic> RAWRG
58:05 <s_gmusic> can't settle on colors for this figure. 
58:13 <s_gmusic> and I have to finish it for tomorrow.
58:16 <s_gmusic> >______<
00:52 <Avatar> I have to find the rules for buying spellbook spells
08:27 <Mekkis> What about this idea for a 40k-based campaign: the players are the ruling council of a world, and in order to keep the world gripped in fear, your ancestors have been driving a successful propaganda machine convincing the population that there are chaos gods (keeping them from safely travelling); hostile, genocidal races; and even mutated humans who are all out to kill them. (Basic 40k backstory).
10:05 <Mekkis> The PCs have just inherited their high-up party position, and discover that the whole thing is a lie, to keep the population under wraps. A small leak appears. What are they going to do about it? Will they try and reform the system from the top, or try and suppress it...
11:03 <Avatar> I never realised how potent the slow spell is
11:14 <Avatar> I used it on the special and fucked up the paladin hardcore
11:27 <Avatar> it would've been nastier if I realised it was more than one target
11:53 <Avatar> half speed movement and only a move or standard shuts down any meleers
13:01 <Brunius_> Write the leak off as a genestealer cult and wipe the city it occured in
13:07 <s_gmusic> Slow sooooo good.
13:17 <Mekkis> Sure, that's one option...
15:49 <Mekkis> Would you say that idea has potential?
17:54 <Avatar> ah, I don't remember
17:59 <Avatar> there was a reason I asked
18:23 <Avatar> how often are you going to be around while you're doing uni
21:04 <Brunius> Should be a lot of the time?
27:50 <steven> word
27:59 <Avatar> cool
29:55 <Avatar> absalom townhouse vanity
30:23 <Avatar> +2 to diplomacy gather info about your home district
30:34 <Avatar> +4 sorry
30:41 <Avatar> but only your district
30:47 <Avatar> when would you ever use that
30:49 <Avatar> 15pp
31:06 <Avatar> also a +2 bluff/diplomacy/sense motive/intimidate against members of that district
31:09 <Avatar> phil
31:14 <philderbeast> hey
31:16 <Mekkis> what season's that from?
31:32 <Avatar> it's in the field guide
31:52 <Mekkis> ah
32:03 <Avatar> 15pp!
32:14 <Mekkis> It's strange, a lot of Singaporians are very much into that
32:17 <Mekkis> it's a VANITY.
32:32 <Mekkis> Same reason why a lot of Australians are so into buying property.
32:35 <Avatar> who sets these prices
32:58 <Mekkis> All those other foreign investors driving the property prices up
33:08 <Avatar> for property, you'd want to be able to sell the property later at a higher rate
33:11 <Mekkis> And a gutless government who thinks that that's a good thing
33:31 <Mekkis> Anyway, I'm off to Adelaide. If you can, tell Tashes I'm coming.
33:48 <Avatar> that might seem creepy
34:32 <s_gmusic> Warmachine! http://i.imgur.com/cCo3hco.png
35:21 <philderbeast> so whats your thoughts on the core compaign
36:04 <Brunius_> Mekkis, it's 40k. If at least 20 million innocents don't die, something is wrong
38:51 <Lintor> hello strangers
39:41 <Avatar> ulzef
39:50 <Avatar> some people are excited about playing core only shiz and some people are worried it will split the community
40:01 <Avatar> or whatever it is they call you these days
40:42 <Avatar> here's a good question, do any of you want me to run anything for your core campaign characters
40:58 <Lintor> so avatar, Kuki is talking about coming to geelong to run emerald spire within a month or so would you wish to travel so you can use your boon with gitch?
41:14 <Avatar> man
41:18 <Lintor> i would be interested in trialing a game
41:23 <Avatar> if you hadn't included the second half of that line, the answer would've been no
41:31 <Avatar> but you might have swayed me
41:35 <Avatar> I need to use this filthy boon
41:47 <Avatar> what game are you talking about running
41:49 <Avatar> and who's running it
41:54 <Avatar> and who's kuki
42:00 <Lintor> apakuki 
42:10 <Avatar> ahh
42:17 <Lintor> and first 1 
42:25 <Avatar> first one what
42:44 <Lintor> we might be running at his place i need to talk to some of the geelong guys he has offered to host or come down
42:52 <Lintor> first emerald spire
42:58 <Avatar> oh right emerald spire
43:04 <Avatar> so like level 1-2?
43:19 <Avatar> this would be a non-core yeah?
43:19 <Lintor> yep
43:26 <Lintor> yeah
43:34 <Avatar> I'd have to do up my not-yet-done character
43:45 <Avatar> the one I was going to make into an investigator until I realised that was foolish
43:49 <Lintor> although he is trying to talk me into doing it as core but i have heard people die there
43:50 <Avatar> do you play your investigator
43:59 <Avatar> yeah they do die there
44:07 <Avatar> I'd be more inclined to run emerald spire than play it
44:19 <Avatar> I'm not a fan of all these modules they want to have on hard mode
44:33 <Avatar> I don't know who's dying though, I've seen some terrible tactics being used
44:46 <Avatar> and that's saying something because my tactics aren't top notch either
44:50 <Lintor> from what i have heard its not that bad but heaps of people did it a pre gens and it got a bit of a rep
45:40 <Avatar> pregens says "newbies" to me
46:19 <Lintor> he ran it a few times at pax which i think is where the things came from
46:21 <Avatar> I'm kind of out of character ideas
46:28 <philderbeast> but what do you think.....
46:40 <Avatar> I have played too many martials lately and they are really starting to shit me
46:41 <Lintor> i have been working on the Bosun for Ulzef
46:51 <Avatar> what is a bosun
47:01 <Avatar> sounds like some sort of particle
47:02 <Lintor> leader of the crew
47:15 <Avatar> I don't follow?
47:41 <s_gmusic> not sure what to make for a Core character. Dwarven Rogue, perhaps?
47:46 <Lintor> he will be part of Ulzefs crew the one in charge of recapturing slaves and the like 
47:57 <Lintor> i made a human bard
48:36 <Lintor> no APG really hurts
49:05 <Lintor> Avatar have you done a cleric before?
49:18 <Avatar> yeah my first character is a cleric
49:22 <Avatar> well, my first real character
49:40 <Avatar> my first actual character was a comedy bard that didn't know how to play PFS, and mekkis ran him through the darkest vengeance on his second scenario
49:41 <s_gmusic> no APG = No Step Up and Strike tree = sad melee characters.
50:14 <Avatar> no "extra" feats hurts
50:24 <Avatar> I think even lingering performance is in the APG isn't it
50:39 <s_gmusic> yup
50:51 <Avatar> I foresee a lot of wizards in the core campaign
51:14 <s_gmusic> ya really. "but I have to be OP somehow!"
53:19 <Avatar> wizards are the least affected I think?
53:24 <Lintor> clerics and druids are awesome in core as well
53:40 <Avatar> yeah that sounds about right
54:04 <Avatar> the reason you haven't heard of my cleric is because I built him really badly and stopped playing him after he was boring me to tears
54:23 <Avatar> I loaded him up with GM credit and he's level 9 now and has a roc
54:25 <Lintor> Ahhh
54:39 <Avatar> Cairo
56:10 <Lintor> i dont know how you have run out of charcters i have more than i could ever make
59:35 <philderbeast> so question is anyone interested in a game on saturday morning, im getting an itch to run something
04:36 <Avatar> what are you running
05:06 <philderbeast> just working that out now
05:12 <philderbeast> so let me know if you have a request
05:39 <Avatar> we just came back from arcanacon on monday
06:34 <Avatar> fate of the fiend is probably my biggest request 
08:11 <philderbeast> let me have a look i havent played that one
08:18 <Avatar> yeah nobody has
11:21 <Lintor> what ime sat morning?
11:41 <philderbeast> probably 10am AEST
12:50 <Lintor> i would have to be out then as i have to goto iron gods at 1:30
14:02 <steven> back!
15:13 <Darkkapow> :O
15:23 <Darkkapow> welcome back
19:32 <philderbeast> grrr trying to work out what hadn't been reported lol
20:52 <philderbeast> http://mibpaste.com/uxJjtx they are my prefered list to run
21:11 <steven> hey.
21:16 <philderbeast> hey
21:58 <steven> I've played fate of the fiend.
22:11 <philderbeast> is there anything you havent played lol
22:16 <steven> yeah.
22:33 <philderbeast> its probably as long as my gm list if that lol
23:47 <steven> 5-09 5-11 5-22 5-24 6-03 6-04 6-07 6-12 6-13
24:22 <philderbeast> yep lol
24:39 <steven> so what up peoples.
29:37 <philderbeast> *sigh* I should do my player paperwork first....
33:56 <Darkkapow> not much here tired :( moved back home almost 2 weeks ago now, caring for my old man because he's not good
46:25 <philderbeast> hmmm i really need to find a good way of doign an its
47:50 <steven> i hear ya mang.
47:56 <steven> I use an electronic one.
48:08 <philderbeast> yea thats what im thinking
48:20 <steven> keeps track of my gold, prestige, fame, and exp
48:31 <philderbeast> for the most part i just use herolab to track purchases.... but i need a good way to link it to the chronicals
49:33 <steven> now for the most important decision of tonight.
49:38 <steven> what movie to watch
03:12 <philderbeast> frozen... you know you want to :P
03:29 <Brunius> Let it go, Philderbeast
06:43 <philderbeast> :)
06:47 <philderbeast> right scanning done...
06:50 <philderbeast> back to game picking
12:18 <s_gmusic> what colors are good to display Elven superiority? what if they're Space Elves?
12:32 <Avatar> steven: maybe you should run fate of the fiend then
12:43 <Avatar> phil do you have a high level char
13:23 <Avatar> who are you
13:32 <Avatar> have we met
15:00 <steven> why would i wanna run fate of the fiend.
15:18 <Avatar> because you've played it
15:53 <Avatar> or are you trying to get in on play-only
17:07 <steven> no i just didnt like the scenario.
17:30 <Avatar> but it's a request
17:53 <steven> request denied?
18:08 <Avatar> why would you chime in saying you've played it if you don't want to run it and you aren't looking for a game
19:14 <steven> conversation
33:30 <Mekkis> philderbeast: you know that Brock's banned character sheets on electronic devices now, right?
35:01 <Avatar> lol.
38:16 <Darkkapow> :P
38:20 <Darkkapow> been awhile huh
41:49 <philderbeast> they are not banned mekkis
42:04 <philderbeast> you just have to have a paper sheet if asked
42:12 <philderbeast> yes i have a level 11
42:16 <philderbeast> and the next is 7
48:00 <Mekkis> I'm personally planning on ignoring that ruling. Are you?
48:28 <philderbeast> yea i dont plan to ever ask somone for a paper sheet specificly
49:34 <Mekkis> I do however prefer to insist on paper chronicles...
49:55 <philderbeast> yea, i would like to see paper chronicals particully for one use items.
50:06 <philderbeast> but a character sheet what ever they are using is fune
50:09 <philderbeast> fine*
50:29 <philderbeast> I have found less issues with people using herolab on a table then some people using paper sheets....
52:03 <philderbeast> besides how do you really in force a rule on a player who may not have read it etc....
52:09 <philderbeast> im not going to turn away a player for that
54:30 <philderbeast> ok so how to build an inquisitor.....
57:39 <steven> so bored.
58:05 <steven> wish there was a core game going on.
34:17 <Darkkapow> I'll run a dark heresy game if people are interested XP
34:38 <Darkkapow> not today but in the upcoming future
38:32 <Avatar> does anyone remember off the top of your head when you apply later-level credit
38:47 <Avatar> is it when you hit the level of the pregen, or when you hit the level of the lowest subtier?
40:23 <steven> back.
40:27 <Avatar> mate if you run a pathfinder society game I will be interested
40:44 <Avatar> you can't run among the trilogy anymore because you took 3 years to get here
41:11 <Brunius> level of the pregen isn't it
44:08 <Darkkapow> it's okay avatar i've already run it 3 times
44:36 <Darkkapow> plus people who ask like that get nothing
44:47 <Avatar> yep
44:48 <Avatar> cheers
48:24 <Avatar> what?
53:07 <Avatar> my wizard somehow hit level 4 without me noticing
53:24 <Brunius> GM credit, or just the middle of a con?
55:37 <Avatar> I just applied the blood under absalom credit to the character and it was already level 4
55:45 <Avatar> it has a scenario on it that I thought I hadn't played
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13:24 <Avatar> oh look at this mekkis, my wizard actually has a focus listed in his inventory on his character sheet
13:46 <Avatar> I actually created a section so I would remember to add additional foci to it 
13:54 <Avatar> I dont' even remember doing this!
14:31 <Avatar> the character has bought almost nothing, just some wrist sheathes, a wand, a haversack and a foci
13:58 <Avatar> kapow is gone again
14:01 <Avatar> he will be back in a year
14:51 <Darkkapow> no i am here
14:54 <Darkkapow> i was just ignoring you
15:16 <Darkkapow>  /busy with other things
15:50 <Avatar> nothing unusual !
24:51 <Avatar> not really sure what to spend all this spare dosh on
25:02 <Avatar> I guess I should buy every foci on the books so I don't have to worry about them again
26:22 <Darkkapow> well i'm a full time carer now so kinda important
29:47 <Avatar> are you a parent
32:44 <Mekkis> Dark Heresy?
32:46 <Mekkis> The 40k thing?
37:40 <Mekkis> Good idea, Avatar 
45:23 <Mekkis> Avatar, FYI
45:25 <Mekkis> http://pastebin.com/7ghGasXi
45:34 <Mekkis> Spells with costly components
45:52 <Mekkis> !spell Blood Sentinel
46:07 <diebot> Mekkis, BLOOD SENTINEL transmutation ([]) alchemist 3, sorcerer/wizard 3 1 standard action Range: touch one animal sculpture Comp: V, S, M (a life-sized animal sculpture of a familiar made of clay, cloth, stone, or wood, plus mandrake root worth 25 gp) Duration: 10 minutes/level Save: none SR:no (harmless)Source: Advanced Class Guide
46:07 <diebot> After casting this spell, you pour a few drops of your blood and saliva into the mouth of the animal sculpture material component, temporarily giving it life. The animal is bonded to you as if it were a familiar, and it has the abilities of a familiar (use your caster level as your effective wizard level to determine its abilities), but it does not
46:07 <diebot> grant you the Alertness feat or the special ability of its animal type. If your blood sentinel is slain, you take 2 points of Intelligence drain and the blood sentinel's body becomes a destroyed statue. This spell has no effect if you already have a familiar or another blood sentinel.
46:32 <Mekkis> !spell Business Booms
46:33 <diebot> Mekkis, BUSINESS BOOMS enchantment ([]) bard 3, sorcerer/wizard 3 1 standard action Range: touch one building Comp: V, S, M (promotional materials such as flyers and posters worth 10 gp) Duration: see text (D) Save: none SR:noSource: Quests and Campaigns
46:34 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/business_booms.html
50:27 <Avatar> nice
50:43 <Avatar> might put that on google drive
51:54 <Mekkis> Not really that much there
52:17 <Avatar> is it not a complete list
52:48 <Mekkis> it's complete. Might not have everything with a material component. But it has everything level 6 and lower with a focus
53:02 <Mekkis> !spell Malediction
53:03 <diebot> Mekkis, MALEDICTION necromancy ([death, evil]) sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3 1 standard action Range: touch living creature touched Comp: V, S, F (onyx dust worth 500 gp) Duration: instantaneous/1 minute per HD of the target; see text Save: Will negates SR:yesSource: APG
53:03 <diebot> You utter a dire curse over the body of a dying creature, allowing you to consume its waning life force. Upon this spell, you touch a living creature that has -1 or fewer hit points. If the target fails its saving throw, it dies and you gain 1 hero point for every 5 Hit Dice possessed by the target (minimum 1, maximum 3). These hero points last for
53:03 <diebot> a number of minutes equal to the target's Hit Dice. Any hero points remaining when this spell ends are lost.
53:56 <Mekkis> Less than 4th level, there's only the pit
54:11 <Avatar> do any of you have an extra trait boon or a retraining boon to swap for an ifrit or a sylph
54:13 <Mekkis> !spell Stolen Light
54:14 <diebot> Mekkis, STOLEN LIGHT illusion (figment[]) bard 3, sorcerer/wizard 3 1 full round Range: touch transparent gem touched Comp: V, S, F (a gem worth at least 500 gp) Duration: permanent or 1 minute/level (see text) Save: Will negates (object) SR:yes (object)Source: Pathfinder Society Field Guide
54:15 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/stolen_light.html
54:29 <Mekkis> I do have an extra trait boon...
54:40 <Avatar> want a race?
54:55 <Avatar> there's other stuff on both boons as well I think
54:58 <Mekkis> not really. Want a Trained Eye?
55:06 <Avatar> what is a trained eye
55:32 <Mekkis> +2 to perception checks.
55:39 <Avatar> lol?
55:42 <Avatar> is that a boon
55:47 <Mekkis> no. Seriously.
56:02 <Avatar> I'll just buy a masterwork magnifying glass for 50gp I think
56:20 <Mekkis> +2 to All perception checks.
56:50 <Avatar> really not interested
57:16 <Avatar> played paths we choose
57:23 <Avatar> really quite underwhelming for what it was supposed to be
57:36 <Avatar> felt a bit first steps-like
59:59 <Mekkis> Did you see the recent blog post?
03:48 <Avatar> we were all talking about it this morning when you weren't here
04:17 <Mekkis> Ah
04:45 <Mekkis> Seems dumb. Really dumb.
05:28 <Avatar> I don't see the appeal of it
05:42 <Avatar> will be an interesting experiment I guess
05:53 <Mekkis> I'm actually worried about what it will do to the community here.
06:00 <Avatar> what do you predict
06:40 <Mekkis> The VC/VL will be running heaps of early stuff core-only in order to get their characters up to 12.
06:54 <Mekkis> Probably dividing the player base yet again
08:02 <Darkkapow> no but currently my dad requires a full time carer because of illness and the side effects of being sick for so long
08:11 <Darkkapow> so at the moment i am pretty much a parent
08:14 <Darkkapow> yeah mek
08:23 <Mekkis> As I see it, it's just another token measure Paizo is doing in lieu of doing what they should do: release more scenarios.
14:52 <Avatar> that's funny, because stephen's asked the GMs to do exactly the opposite of that
17:43 <Avatar> fair go
27:51 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
38:15 <steven> titties.
30:59 <steven> hi
30:39 <s_gmusic> http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/2015-01-25.jpg
50:00 <steven> sup
51:38 <s_gmusic> yo
54:07 <steven> whats crackin homie.
54:32 <s_gmusic> nothin' much, thinking about the Core PFS thing and working on a warmachine model.
56:28 <s_gmusic> So, about that Fantastic Four trailer...
58:06 <steven> if i watch it i'll be suitably impressed
58:31 <steven> or dissapointed depending on what you think.
58:35 <s_gmusic> heh
58:48 <steven> just so long as i no longer have to interact with the subject.
00:07 <s_gmusic> I don't know what to think about it. Sure, the XMen:DoFP guys did it, so there's a chance to be great (the visuals are nice in the trailer), but unsold on the whole "interdimensional travel" thing.
02:11 <steven> Yeah...
03:17 <s_gmusic> fuck... just drilled the wrong hole. =_=
03:51 <steven> I usually get hit after doing that...
04:00 <s_gmusic> lol
09:50 <steven> Well my character for Emerald spire is done.
10:04 <s_gmusic> oh?
10:24 <steven> yeah, Spiritualist(psychic not investigator)
10:42 <steven> I am a paladin!
10:55 <steven> I can even lay on hands!
12:04 <s_gmusic> so is this a Core run of Spire or homegame?
14:16 <steven> its off the books.
14:25 <steven> we are doing it for the lulz.
14:36 <steven> we were playing through as an evil campaign.
15:23 <s_gmusic> heh. so instead of killing the baddies to destory the Spire, you're killing baddies to usurp their power. nice
15:40 <steven> and we were mighty fuckin evil, but then we ran into a combat that was a cr7 caster, cr5 minotaur, cr4 creature and two traps.
17:49 <s_gmusic> got rekt?
17:51 <steven> the traps were cr1, but it was basically hey you're not allowed to step in these 18 squares or you take damage... meanwhile im throwing out fireball, lightning bolt and then an icestorm for the sole purpose of killing 3/5 of your currently unconcious party
18:54 <steven> and the guy had stoneskin... was frankly just a dick of a fight.
19:22 <steven> but so in true AP/Homebrew fashion you come back in with a group that kills the encounter that killed you.
19:32 <steven> so now we have Team Paladin.
19:54 <steven> 4 paladins and my character who acts like a paladin.
20:44 <s_gmusic> lol
21:09 <steven> Two handed weapon paladin, natural weapon paladin, ranged paladin, and a Sacred Shield(tank paladin)
21:30 <s_gmusic> I want to see a static Core PFS group do that.
22:29 <steven> and then my character is a Spiritualist that im flavoring the spirit that cohabitates my mind is actually a paladin that was murdered by some cultists.
23:07 <steven> and he is super angry about dying to fuel a demonic ritual so he came back to help me kick some ass.
23:51 <steven> I took Believers Boon and Believers Hands which allows me to use lay on hands 1/day.
23:52 <s_gmusic> makes sense
24:13 <steven> because hey... if a paladin is all up in your mind you should totes be able to tap that power.
24:43 <steven> so yeah, i can use lay on hands 1/day for 1d6(we only 5th level)
25:22 <steven> gonna take extra lay on hands get it so i can rock 3/day.
28:59 <steven> It should be a lot of fun.
29:11 <steven> they all have smite evil
29:23 <steven> so... oh its evil... its dead.
30:05 <steven> no party squables about should we steal such and such item.... nope no stealing, give it back.
31:33 <s_gmusic> isn't that boring, though?
35:03 <steven> no because we are going to argue about what we think ours gods would have us do.
35:39 <steven> like we take a prisoner, the sarenrae paladin is all like we should give them a chance to redeam themselves.
36:08 <steven> the toragian is like, no they raised their hands against us.  eliminate the threat to goodness.
36:43 <steven> the Shelynite is like no we cant kill them we would deprive the world of their contributions.
36:51 <steven> so on so forth.
39:20 <s_gmusic> fair enough.
39:39 <steven> but the nice thing is we dont have to deal with selfish character concepts.
39:52 <steven> hey you guys find a belt of con +4
40:30 <steven> the rogue puts it on without consulting group. "Nope i found it on the corpse... its mine."
46:58 <s_gmusic> "Thank you for flying Rogue Express, where what's mine is mine and yours is mine."
31:59 <steven> I need a name for my paladin.
32:11 <steven> sorry my Phantom.
32:41 <steven> Sir Tevalyn?
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46:32 <Mekkis> Darkkapow, I've heard about Dark Heresy... Exactly who are you supposed to be playing in the rather horrible universe that is 40k?
47:33 <s_gmusic> if 40k's horrible, mekkis, what do you play?
48:00 <Mekkis> I'm saying that the 40k UNIVERSE is horrible...
48:20 <Mekkis> (are you seriously contesting that statement?)
48:59 <Avatar> why's it horrible
49:33 <Brunius_> "A war economy can't last that long"
49:37 <Mekkis> is there anywhere in it where you'd be happy to live in?
49:56 <Brunius_> rear-line tau worlds wouldn't be bad
50:38 <Mekkis> s/bad/completely horrible/
51:13 <s_gmusic> ah. normally when I hear something's "horrible", it's more because that person plays a rival game. haven't seen any 40k lore except for a blurb about End Times (which made no sense and seemed really fucked up)
51:48 <Brunius_> haven't heard of end times
51:51 <Mekkis> s_gmusic: Also, I don't play any mini-based wargames
52:07 <s_gmusic> gotcha
53:15 <Mekkis> Did they seriously omit the "Monsters By CR" section from the Monster Manual in 5e?
57:43 <s_gmusic> RAWRG
57:54 <s_gmusic> can't settle on colors for this figure. 
58:02 <s_gmusic> and I have to finish it for tomorrow.
58:05 <s_gmusic> >______<
08:15 <Mekkis> What about this idea for a 40k-based campaign: the players are the ruling council of a world, and in order to keep the world gripped in fear, your ancestors have been driving a successful propaganda machine convincing the population that there are chaos gods (keeping them from safely travelling); hostile, genocidal races; and even mutated humans who are all out to kill them. (Basic 40k backstory).
09:53 <Mekkis> The PCs have just inherited their high-up party position, and discover that the whole thing is a lie, to keep the population under wraps. A small leak appears. What are they going to do about it? Will they try and reform the system from the top, or try and suppress it...
12:15 <Avatar> I feel like any future characters I create should be some sort of arcane spellcaster with full spell progression
12:30 <Avatar> I am really a bit over playing all my martial characters
12:49 <Brunius_> Write the leak off as a genestealer cult and wipe the city it occured in
13:04 <Avatar> the only good ranged builds I know are gunslinger, fighter/archer and zen archer, only one of which I like
13:05 <Mekkis> Sure, that's one option...
13:31 <Avatar> if I went another gunslinger, it'd want to be something very different to what I did the first time around
15:37 <Mekkis> Would you say that idea has potential?
29:44 <Avatar> absalom townhouse vanity
30:12 <Avatar> +2 to diplomacy gather info about your home district
30:22 <Avatar> +4 sorry
30:29 <Avatar> but only your district
30:35 <Avatar> when would you ever use that
30:37 <Avatar> 15pp
30:54 <Avatar> also a +2 bluff/diplomacy/sense motive/intimidate against members of that district
31:04 <Mekkis> what season's that from?
31:21 <Avatar> it's in the field guide
31:40 <Mekkis> ah
31:51 <Avatar> 15pp!
32:00 <Mekkis> It's strange, a lot of Singaporians are very much into that
32:05 <Mekkis> it's a VANITY.
32:20 <Mekkis> Same reason why a lot of Australians are so into buying property.
32:23 <Avatar> who sets these prices
32:46 <Mekkis> All those other foreign investors driving the property prices up
32:57 <Avatar> for property, you'd want to be able to sell the property later at a higher rate
32:59 <Mekkis> And a gutless government who thinks that that's a good thing
33:19 <Mekkis> Anyway, I'm off to Adelaide. If you can, tell Tashes I'm coming.
53:32 <s_gmusic> blarg. don't know what colors to paint my model http://i.imgur.com/cCo3hco.png
28:20 <Avatar> Brunius: you've finished school haven't you?
59:35 <Brannoc> Hi
33:02 <Brunius> ja
37:50 <Brunius> enrolled for uni, starting in a month
58:28 <Avatar> what's the term where you transcribe a spell into a spellbook
34:01 <s_gmusic> "copy"
34:05 <s_gmusic> ;)
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34:33 <steven> fuck my headache is coming back.
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