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34:27 <Steven> well that drive sucked balls.
34:41 <Steven> icy as fuck out, slid all over the road, almost ended up in a ditch twice.
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15:11 <Brunius> Avatar: Did you end up getting anyone to paint those minis you got from that kickstarter?
33:39 <Steven> !rng noshadow monstershadow
33:40 <diebot> Steven, noshadow
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57:52 <Avatar> or what that is
58:42 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> It is a bit odd
00:01 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> I'm still disillusioned by the shaman
00:20 <Avatar> yeah I have a druid waiting to be retrained into a shaman, but I can't see such a thing as a good shaman
00:27 <Avatar> it looks just as dull
00:42 <Avatar> I can't put my finger on why
01:01 <Avatar> surely druid spells don't innately suck
01:03 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Well they seem good, but like how a cleric or wizard is good, but just boring unless super optimisation/quirky
01:21 <Avatar> I am trying to super optimise it, can't figure out how
01:33 <Avatar> I want to be a useful shaman
01:37 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> The hunter can cast aspect of the hawk level 1, I like it
01:51 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> The wander spirit thing is what irks me
02:03 <Avatar> steven found an archetype that fixes that
02:08 <Avatar> speaker of the past I think it was
02:16 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Does it no longer exist?
02:22 <Avatar> still exists
04:08 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Eh
04:45 <Avatar> just not sure it's fun unless you're playing a concept really hard
04:56 <Avatar> and this is my weakest concept character
05:33 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Heh
06:55 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> That's kinda how I feel with Ava, she's not that exciting or that good of a concept
08:16 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Comparing Ava to Steven's is unfair, firstly he's an assimar who put all the favoured class into channel IIRC
09:11 <Steven> yeah dudette i pretty much just a drunk that channels a lot
09:54 <Avatar> mekkis painted the gunslinger and the witch
10:32 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Yea
11:09 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> And I didn't have access to assimar when I made mine otherwise I'd probably do the same, or have a better backup plan
14:00 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Thing is, I don't really have a backup plan. Like Avatar and Brunius, if you can even remember phoenix tournament, did Ava even do much, or much useful, that wasn't healing or healing oriented?
14:35 <Steven> i remember playing ruby phoenix and being bored... pretty much the entire time.
15:18 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> I liked it, was interesting, wasn't just bash things
17:31 <Avatar> it's not unfair, yours could do what he did
17:41 <Avatar> it's more about the way you play it
17:45 <Avatar> the choices you make
17:52 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> I can't change Ava's race 
17:57 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Haha
18:17 <Avatar> race is irrelevant
18:20 <Steven> when i played it the second time with star credit the other people in the group made it pretty meh.
18:22 <Avatar> you will be assimilated
18:44 <Avatar> what do you mean they made it meh
18:49 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> The race does help buff the channel, especially if it's straight oracle
18:59 <Steven> the all day cackle fortune witch
19:22 <Avatar> buffing the channel isn't important man
19:23 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> That was Avatar in ours, but it wasn't that bonkers
19:36 <Avatar> misfortune
19:47 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> It is when you hit level 18 or 22 at level 12
19:53 <Avatar> I still don't think the witch is as overpowered as everyone thinks
20:10 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> It's not overpowered, just boring /annoying
20:21 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> I love my cartomancer though 
20:29 <Steven> I just remember not having to do a thing in any fight because the fights never lasted longer then 2 rounds.
20:33 <Avatar> my witch isn't boring
21:30 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> That reminds me, I'm gonna need to check if they've FAQs for the cartomancer 
21:55 <Steven> i also remember getting a private message that they didnt mind 'carrying my character but i should at least be thankful and not criticize them" 
22:31 <Avatar> haha
23:02 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Like do I still need to hit for a beneficial spell, do I get the deck's enhancement bonus to spell to hit and/or damage?
23:09 <Steven> which is when i used one of my dc28 persistent suffocation.
23:09 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Those sort of questions 
23:28 <Avatar> on the witch
23:38 <Steven> god i wish pvp was allowed.
23:43 <Avatar> I would do it
23:46 <Avatar> see if he invokes the pvp rule
23:54 <Avatar> it would be worth a try, yeah?
24:01 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Sure, wait till someone gets mind controlled 
25:02 <Avatar> jealous
25:04 <Avatar> no if they retaliated, I would probably invoke the pvp rule
25:47 <Steven> I have envoked the pvp rule before.  A barbarian had a raging mount, my character was confused and did a whopping 1d8+1 damage to him, and he responded to it by him and his mount full attacking  for like 170 damage and tried to hide behind the "Its what my character would do"
26:04 <Steven> "He is raging so it makes sense i would kill your character"
26:08 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Wow that's fucked
26:27 <Steven> yeah, thankfully the GM agreed with me 
26:48 <Steven> so i didnt lose my aasimar character(Back when you needed a boon to play them)
27:06 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Hehe
27:37 <Steven> frankly the guy was an ass and i think just wanted to be able to brag to people he caused a character death.
28:38 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> How hard is it to change your morale thingy (blank atm)
30:28 <Avatar> alignment?
30:37 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> That's it, danke
30:48 <Avatar> there's no good rules on it
31:01 <Avatar> do it between scenarios if it doesn't really affect anything
31:15 <Avatar> if it's because you're evil, it costs atonement
31:26 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Well, it affects me being able to a prestige class or not
31:40 <Avatar> yeah just chagne it and then you're locked into it
31:48 <Avatar> obviously if you have dependent abilities, that's going to hurt
32:22 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Well I'm still not sure which direction I want to go with Ava 
32:29 <Avatar> you shouldn't activate the cheesery to change alignment if you want to multiclass between barbarian and monk
32:41 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> But have been tempting hellknight sinctifier
32:47 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Haha
33:00 <Avatar> andrei has a hellknight signifier
33:15 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> You can with one of the monk archetypes, it doesn't need lawful 
33:35 <Avatar> yeah I'm talking about the one that needs to be lawful
33:46 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> A hellnight signifier life oracle or sarenrae?
33:53 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Of*
34:04 <Avatar> I don't know enough about hellknights
34:09 <Avatar> just that they are hardcore
34:27 <Avatar> we had a player who played a hellknight and used an arnie accent
34:28 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> They are, signifiers are a bit odd, but they're still up there
34:35 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Haha nice
34:48 <Avatar> and we had to infiltrate a hellknight building
34:57 <Avatar> so my character started using bluff and doing the accent as well
35:03 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> It's either that or holy vindicator for an offensive direction
35:05 <Avatar> completely fucking up the roleplay
35:23 <Avatar> matt goodall ran that game and it was going completely out of control when it became clear I didn't know what to do next
36:06 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Holy vindicator is cool and both ways I still get max channel
39:31 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Still have no idea
39:56 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Steven: are you able to get me a pdf without me adding it to my wishlist?
40:06 <Steven> no, not really.
40:15 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Mmk, Gimme a sec
41:32 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Mmk, added 
41:37 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> And danke Steven 
42:34 <Steven> lets hope i dont get the same bug as last time.
43:00 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> I hope not
46:16 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Yea I have it, thanks
46:48 <Steven> oh god! im under 100 store credit!
47:25 <Avatar> how do you get store credit
48:10 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> I dunno, probably murikan cons
48:27 <Steven> i gm at paizo conventions
48:37 <Steven> for paizo.
48:40 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Yea thought so
48:52 <Steven> not like regional conventions, but the big ones.
48:59 <Steven> pax, gencon, paizocon.
50:38 <Avatar> how much do you get for GMing there
50:57 <Avatar> that might actually make it worth it to travel if they are going to give you credit
51:57 <Steven> it wont justify the plane ticket you'd have to get man.
56:32 <Avatar> it might
02:09 <Steven> alright... time to get serious about tinkering with my wereshark for skull and shackles
13:11 <Mekkis> moin
30:55 <Steven> i dont think i really want an animal companion, but i dont want to make another feral hunter.
32:03 <Steven> considering a Barbarian/Brawler
36:37 <Mekkis> Brunius, what's happening to  your campaign?
46:16 <Brunius> I abandoned it, but I don't remember why
46:28 <Brunius> Sorry 'bout that chief
46:38 <Brunius> sorry gotta go but will talk later for sure
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54:52 <Avatar> no problem chief
55:00 <Avatar> ...wait a minute
00:50 <Avatar> can't believe I have a copy of ISG
00:55 <Avatar> I have to replan everything
01:50 <Avatar> kind of tempted to buy another blank map, those are great
02:09 <Mekkis> I'd suggest getting a Chessex map instead
02:11 <Avatar> I still can't work out how anyone prints out maps
02:12 <Mekkis> they're even better
02:17 <Avatar> chessex eh
02:29 <Mekkis> Avatar, it's simple: just press ctrl+p
02:30 <Mekkis> yeah
02:35 <Mekkis> chessex mondo-map
02:57 <Avatar> it's not just press ctrl+p
03:06 <Mekkis> sure
03:09 <Avatar> I had officeworks try to print me up a map and they couldn't get the grid big enough
03:25 <Avatar> ryan k said he did it through them and I tried to do the same thing and they screwed me
03:34 <Mekkis> I either use some guy in Melbourne, or my parent's printer
04:01 <Avatar> do cheesex actually make maps? I'm only finding dice
04:40 <Avatar> maybe I should actually look
04:53 <Mekkis> http://www.trollandtoad.com/p172054.html
04:55 <Avatar> it says OUT OF PRINT
05:12 <Avatar> why is this a better map than paizo's
05:25 <Avatar> at $70
06:18 <Mekkis> it's bigger, and rolls up
06:31 <Mekkis> it's made of vinyl, rather than coated cardboard
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07:29 <Avatar> $70
07:36 <Avatar> I'm kind of looking for quantity over quality here
07:46 <Avatar> I already have one of the cardboard ones and I'm buying another
07:59 <Avatar> I don't really like not having prepared maps
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08:25 <Avatar> honestly the thing I hate most about in-person games is the maps when you have to draw them out
08:35 <Avatar> online we always get the beautiful looking images
08:46 <Avatar> even the best drawn maps never compare
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10:47 <Mekkis> then print them out?
12:27 <Avatar> I can't align the grid to 1 inch
12:41 <Avatar> and I'd be doing it on A4 pages
14:18 <Mekkis> I get Some Guy in Melbourne to print it on canvas.
15:23 <Mekkis> I can give you his email. They will print on A0, for about $12-$15 a shot
16:17 <Avatar> is this some guy who runs a business
16:20 <Avatar> or just some guy
16:46 <Avatar> and I don't mean technically; does he run an actual business with an ABN
28:46 <Avatar> who the hell is that
30:48 <Avatar> Daemoc: what are you doing
34:23 <Mekkis> yeah, pretty sure he does
35:13 <Mekkis> [email protected]
35:54 <Avatar> what's his website
35:55 <Mekkis> they advertise on ebay:
35:56 <Mekkis> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PERSONALISED-A0-A1-ART-STRETCH-CANVAS-PAINTING-POSTER-PRINT-BANNER-SIGN-PRINTING-/111518255867?pt=AU_Art_Prints_Posters&var=&hash=item19f7018afb
36:51 <Brunius> I was gonna do that earlier
36:55 <Brunius> but then went AFK to paint things
37:05 <Avatar> mate
47:29 <Avatar> what am I missing
50:25 <Brunius> `op
26:23 <Mekkis> ？
33:04 <Steven> so avatar.
33:19 <Steven> if you could make whatever you wanted what would you make?
33:29 <Steven> pathfinder... not like... a million dollars.
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34:46 <Avatar> what?
34:50 <Avatar> you mean like a magic item?
35:01 <Steven> no character wise
35:24 <Avatar> a witch that can shoot a gun?
39:31 <Mekkis> s/that/who/
44:56 <Mekkis> This year's Corporate Technology Expo was no different than the ones for years
44:57 <Mekkis> previous. [...] The scene was a three-hour, seemingly unending procession of
44:57 <Mekkis> PowerPoint slides with enough laser pointers to take down an incoming ICBM.
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32:33 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Thu Jan  1 16:52:13 2015
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09:17 <Mekkis> 𠂊
10:22 <Avatar> you can't ban anyone connecting from mibbit
19:57 <Mekkis> ChanOP can
25:57 <Avatar> no
34:28 <Steven> well that drive sucked balls.
34:42 <Steven> icy as fuck out, slid all over the road, almost ended up in a ditch twice.
33:40 <Steven> !rng noshadow monstershadow
33:41 <diebot> Steven, noshadow
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44:14 <Avatar> is there such a thing as a mini for a lightning elemental
46:04 <Steven> a battery
46:51 <Avatar> that is actually really clever
47:00 <Avatar> now just tell me where I can find a huge-size battery
50:52 <Steven> Duracell MN908 Alkaline Lantern 6 Volt Battery
51:16 <Steven> it is 2.8in x 2.8in x 4.5in 
51:37 <Steven> http://salestores.com/dumn6voallab.html
52:13 <Avatar> ya I will buy one of those, thx
53:05 <Steven> hey... you asked for it.
12:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, dick smith
12:50 <Mekkis> or woolworths
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23:12 <Mekkis> Is the steal book spell PFS legal?
24:53 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_XperiaZ, what do you mean 'most other cons are in convention centres'?
32:37 <Mekkis> Oh, Finished Runelords today!
44:15 <Avatar> is there such a thing as a mini for a lightning elemental
46:06 <Steven> a battery
46:52 <Avatar> that is actually really clever
47:01 <Avatar> now just tell me where I can find a huge-size battery
50:54 <Steven> Duracell MN908 Alkaline Lantern 6 Volt Battery
51:17 <Steven> it is 2.8in x 2.8in x 4.5in 
51:38 <Steven> http://salestores.com/dumn6voallab.html
52:14 <Avatar> ya I will buy one of those, thx
53:06 <Steven> hey... you asked for it.
53:21 <Avatar> !spell steal book
53:29 <Avatar> no it doesn't exist
53:48 <diebot> Avatar, STEAL BOOK divination ([]) bard 3, inquisitor 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3 1 standard action Range: touch one book touched Comp: V, S Duration: permanent Save: Fortitude negates (object) SR:yes (object)Source: PFS S3-09
53:49 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/steal_book.html
55:32 <Avatar> er
55:35 <Avatar> it's a spell from a scenario?
56:06 <Avatar> QFP part 1
59:07 <Avatar> I think your source is wrong mekkis
01:04 <Avatar> it's from kobold quarterley 14
17:05 <Mekkis> It's also in Immortal Conundrum
17:37 <Mekkis> which is 3-09
17:51 <Mekkis> It's also in Prince of Wolves.
33:13 <Avatar> immortal conundrum is 3-10
34:34 <Mekkis> indeed it is. I'll look at correcting it
35:13 <Mekkis> UPDATE PFSPELL SET source = 'PFS S3-10' WHERE name like 'STEAL BOOK';
37:55 <Mekkis> !spell steal book
37:57 <diebot> Mekkis, STEAL BOOK divination ([]) bard 3, inquisitor 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3 1 standard action Range: touch one book touched Comp: V, S Duration: permanent Save: Fortitude negates (object) SR:yes (object)Source: PFS S3-09
37:57 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/steal_book.html
38:21 <Mekkis> !spell steal book
38:23 <diebot> Mekkis, STEAL BOOK divination ([]) bard 3, inquisitor 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3 1 standard action Range: touch one book touched Comp: V, S Duration: permanent Save: Fortitude negates (object) SR:yes (object)Source: PFS S3-10
38:23 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/steal_book.html
43:46 <Mekkis> better
43:52 <Avatar> gg
49:04 <Avatar> what's the name of the blank map that paizo sells
49:13 <Brunius> flip mat?
49:50 <Avatar> flip mat basic, just found it
50:12 <Mekkis> Why would you get that?
50:19 <Avatar> wonder if that is actually likely to get here before friday
50:23 <Mekkis> Get a flip map that is blank on one side :P
50:24 <Avatar> I need one I can draw on
50:34 <Avatar> that's what it is
50:40 <Avatar> well blank on two sides
50:45 <Mekkis> No. Basic's blank on both sides
50:47 <Brunius> Avatar, I own like four or five flip mats at this point, patterned on one side, blank on the other
51:05 <Avatar> the only reason I am getting it to begin with is because I need more maps I can draw on
51:31 <Avatar> is it worth getting a map with a pattern on it that I will hardly ever use and a blank I'm going to constantly sue
51:32 <Avatar> use*
51:40 <Mekkis> Depends on the map
51:46 <Avatar> recommend one
51:54 <Mekkis> Something like City Streets is really good because it comes up alot
52:04 <Mekkis> Anytime you're in a city, you can pull it out
52:15 <Mekkis> market
52:38 <Mekkis> the ice one
53:48 <Avatar> I think i've seen the city streets one once and the ice one twice
54:10 <Avatar> the city streets one was in a special
54:19 <Mekkis> If you can get your hands on a city streets one, get it for me. Someone stole mine.
54:44 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/products/btpy8ouc?GameMastery-FlipMat-City-Streets
54:54 <Avatar> there's a discount code for january in the blog
55:26 <Mekkis> out of stock :(
55:37 <Avatar> oh yeah
55:42 <Avatar> out of print
56:03 <Avatar> did you lose yours in melbourne?
56:33 <Mekkis> I think so. Why?
56:39 <Avatar> ok
56:40 <Avatar> mate
56:41 <Mekkis> Unicon 2013
56:44 <Avatar> nobody stole anything here
56:51 <Avatar> it probably got thrown in with stephen's lot
57:03 <Avatar> let's just put that out there
58:55 <Mekkis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTBnsqxZ3k
58:56 <diebot> Mekkis, (High Quality) Famous "Daisy" Attack Ad from 1964 Presidential Election
01:46 <Mekkis> Theatre is used in three or four scenarios
07:12 <Mekkis> Are you really going to be using both sides of your flipmap? May as well have an occasionally-useful published map on the other side...
07:28 <Avatar> yeah I don't want to have to draw them on the day
07:50 <Mekkis> just get them printed then
08:01 <Avatar> that's worse
08:03 <Mekkis> If you want me to size up maps for you, just ask
08:31 <Avatar> so say I ask you to size one up, what do you send me back
08:45 <Mekkis> link to a pdf
08:55 <Avatar> and printing out that PDF doesn't require any modifications?
09:08 <Mekkis> nope'
09:22 <Avatar> okay, print out the map from fabric of reality
09:25 <Avatar> I can send it to you if you want
09:30 <Mekkis> if the printer's big enough
09:38 <Avatar> is A3 big enough
10:28 <Avatar> ironically, this is one of the maps that you drawing is probably fine
11:01 <Avatar> do you have blood under absalom
11:10 <Mekkis> ummm... let me check
11:42 <Mekkis> What's Fabric of Reality's number?
12:13 <Avatar> 4-16
12:29 <Mekkis> hmm
12:33 <Mekkis> time to google
12:39 <Avatar> hang on
12:44 <Avatar> you've played it, yeah
12:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, dick smith
12:52 <Mekkis> or woolworths
13:40 <Mekkis> don't think so, actually
13:41 <Mekkis> no
14:21 <Brunius> I thought you played it at the same time as I did
14:23 <Brunius> and ballig did
14:38 <Mekkis> nope
20:10 <Avatar> don't worry about it if you haven't played it
21:46 <Mekkis> Which blood under absalom maps do you want
21:59 <Avatar> all of them
22:52 <Mekkis> you mean the one on p38?
23:05 <Mekkis> HEY
23:13 <Mekkis> Flip-map theatre! Get it!
24:27 <Avatar> I will consider picking up theatre
24:41 <Avatar> waterfront tavern
24:44 <Avatar> arena
24:53 <Avatar> the sewers isn't a regular one
24:58 <Avatar> inns
25:10 <Avatar> mausoleum is another unique one
25:45 <Avatar> don't fix up any maps that have text in the middle of the room, because that'll need to be removed first
45:48 <Mekkis> by that you mean "DO" fix them up
46:39 <Avatar> the battery will be the first monster mini I own
52:52 <Avatar> I mean don't resize them down without fixing them up
54:06 <Avatar> I gotta say
54:14 <Avatar> we have it pretty good at our cons, with a room to ourselves
54:28 <Avatar> every photo you see of other cons cramped up together in one big room must be a nightmare in comparison
55:24 <Mekkis> is this the kind of one where you'd get them printed professionally?
01:38 <Avatar> yeah
01:51 <Avatar> well I think so
03:35 <Mekkis> might take a bit longer then. Should be done overnight
04:14 <Avatar> the blood ones I don't need until next monday
06:18 <Mekkis> Do you need the inns?
20:12 <Mekkis> The M4 on p38 is a little challenging
25:31 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Yea but we're in a high school, most other cons are in a convention centre
30:48 <Mekkis> As a soviet censor, I would be fired
31:58 <Avatar> yeah I need inns
32:01 <Avatar> all the ones I listed
34:30 <Mekkis> Even the flipmats?
41:21 <Avatar> that's the point
41:40 <Avatar> not "yea but..."
46:39 <Steven> It is nice to have a convention center.  They draw people in that otherwise would not come.
49:27 <Avatar> I would rather have a better place to play than a better place to draw people in
50:03 <Avatar> the game store that used to be the dominant place to play in melbourne isn't used a whole lot anymore because it's full to the brim with magic players
50:15 <Avatar> which looks a lot like these photos actually
50:28 <Avatar> background noise level sucks
52:27 <Steven> i need to name my wereshark
53:05 <Avatar> call it Ron
53:39 <Avatar> Ron the wereshark
53:45 <Steven> im not calling my wereshark ron.
53:51 <Avatar> short for Ronaldo !
54:05 <Steven> no.
57:14 <Avatar> Abraham?
57:33 <Steven> too many Presidents named Abraham
57:51 <Avatar> that's what makes it a good name !
57:58 <Avatar> my wereshark, the president
58:10 <Steven> Dude, you cant be a Pirate named Abraham.
58:28 <Avatar> you can call him Smooth Abe
58:34 <Steven> oh shit...
58:59 <Steven> i like thaat.
59:07 <Avatar> ya
59:30 <Steven> Done,  He is now known as Smooth Abe
00:22 <Avatar> yeah
00:38 <Avatar> the idea is to use printouts instead of burning money on single use flipmats
01:31 <Mekkis> single-use flipmats?!
01:39 <Mekkis> as opposed to single-use printouts
01:40 <Avatar> ya
01:49 <Avatar> single use printouts are better than single use flipmats
02:08 <Mekkis> sure. And I'm contending the flipmats aren't single-use
02:18 <Mekkis> how important is the tunnel on page 38?
02:27 <Mekkis> I can fit it on A1 if I remove it.
14:29 <Avatar> the flipmats are almost always single use
15:52 <Mekkis> I would disagree. I used the City Streets map many many times
16:05 <Avatar> tunnel probably isn't important, that can be drawn
16:18 <Avatar> in which scenarios
16:42 <Mekkis> pretty much any scenario where people are in a city
16:47 <Mekkis> but to name scenarios:
17:30 <Mekkis> First steps 1, before the dawn 1, shades of ice 1, shades of ice 2, shadow's last stand 2
17:36 <Mekkis> off the top of my head
18:12 <Avatar> awkward for first steps
18:17 <Mekkis> how so?
18:43 <Mekkis> the final fight?
18:55 <Avatar> the map is different
19:05 <Mekkis> Only slightly
19:18 <Mekkis> it's good enough
19:29 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> Watch out for gunslingers
20:31 <Avatar> shades of ice 2 would be improvised
20:40 <Avatar> before the dawn 1 I'll likely never run
21:11 <Mekkis> Year of the Shadow Lodge
21:23 <Avatar> shades of ice 1 doesn't use it
21:29 <Avatar> forget specials
21:37 <Mekkis> Wrath of the Accursed
21:45 <Avatar> haven't played that
21:49 <Avatar> I am scared to play it
22:23 <Avatar> I dunno what to do about sunday evening arcanacon
22:31 <Avatar> I either play technic siege and risk death, or take the night off
22:40 <Mekkis> risk death
23:11 <Avatar> I don't like killer scenarios
24:41 <Mekkis> bring a bard
24:48 <Mekkis> and a lawyer
26:30 <Mekkis> (a rules lawyer)
27:54 <Avatar> I don't have a bard, I have an archaeologist
28:07 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/p38_trace.pdf It's correctly scaled, properly interpolated, and shows that I would never be a good Russian photographer.
28:08 <Avatar> and the jokers on warhorn aren't putting down their class/levels except for andrei
28:24 <Mekkis> oh, if Andrei's on the table, you should be fine.
28:33 <Avatar> he's bringing a level 6 oracle
28:49 <Mekkis> Is that the kind of thing you want?
29:07 <Avatar> I honestly have no idea until I see it on paper
29:16 <Avatar> it looks okay 
29:18 <Mekkis> or canvas?
29:27 <Avatar> I thoguht you were cutting out the tunnel
29:38 <Mekkis> you didn't get back to me fast enough
30:09 <Avatar> it's okay, I can cut it off later
30:19 <Avatar> what do you mean on canvas
30:33 <Mekkis> get someone to print it out on canvas
31:41 <Avatar> the idea is to keep this cheap but still looking good
31:52 <Mekkis> how cheap is cheap?
32:00 <Avatar> paper cheap
32:09 <Mekkis> what's that in $AU
32:21 <Avatar> I don't know, less than $10
32:39 <Avatar> how much is canvas
34:17 <Mekkis> Costs me $12 + postage per A0 print.
34:56 <Avatar> do you have a photo of one
34:58 <Mekkis> I would be able to fit all the maps (except for the flipmats) on one A0 sheet, and cut them up when the arrive
35:01 <Mekkis> sure
35:36 <Avatar> and where are you getting this done that it requires postage
37:05 <Mekkis> Melbourne
38:16 <Avatar> melbourne is a big place
39:01 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/DSC_0608.JPG
39:16 <Mekkis> I know. And I don't know where in Melbourne they're doing it.
40:05 <Mekkis> That's Mantis' Prey on canvas - it's a few years old now.
40:48 <Steven> im a pirate.
40:53 <Steven> I have a gun.
44:19 <Avatar> do you have a zoomed out version of that
44:27 <Avatar> oh you've folded it over
44:50 <Mekkis> Zoomed out?
44:56 <Avatar> never mind
45:08 <Mekkis> That map's over a metre long, and 900mm wide
45:14 <Avatar> well it looks good but not very helpful if I don't know where I could get it done on canvas
45:45 <Mekkis> I don't know where it's done. I send the guy an email, transfer him money, and he mails it to me.
46:22 <Avatar> SOUNDS SHIFTY
46:43 <Avatar> is this the same guy you were talking about the other day
46:48 <Mekkis> yeah
47:45 <Mekkis> how much does Officeworks charge (given that what I've seen them output, they're good at fucking up the scale...)
48:09 <Avatar> http://www.topsignage.com.au/
48:20 <Avatar> can't remember
48:35 <Avatar> they fucked up the scale when I ran library of the lion, but it was clear they didn't know what they were doing
48:45 <Mekkis> It's not actually topsignage...
48:48 <Avatar> I didn't really know what I was doing either
49:11 <Avatar> topsignage is the website on that ebay page
50:02 <Mekkis> I've just forwarded you the email chain 
52:30 <Avatar> I haven't thought this through
52:34 <Avatar> your 4 maps cost $68
52:59 <Mekkis> actually $65
53:08 <Avatar> that is a lot for 4 maps
53:23 <Mekkis> $12 per A0 map
53:26 <Mekkis> plus postage
53:28 <Avatar> flip-mats seem to be better value than this
53:35 <Mekkis> I daresay postage over there would be cheaper.
53:49 <Mekkis> I never said they weren't
54:05 <Avatar> I like how he says "all inclusive no more to pay"
54:26 <Mekkis> I get the canvas prints for scenarios that I intend to run several times - or scenarios that are epic enough to justify it.
54:37 <Mekkis> like Mantis' Prey
54:45 <Avatar> yeah fair go
54:50 <Avatar> I'll check up on the prices for paper
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