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00:57:18 <steven> yo
00:59:43 <steven> hows it goin?
01:14:52 <Avatar> yo
01:19:47 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lgyc?Writing-a-New-Entry-for-Factions
02:00:14 <Avatar> die, bot
02:37:29 <Mekkis> meh
02:37:47 <Avatar> I'm just the messenger
02:37:58 <Mekkis> I know
02:38:02 <Brunius> I seem to remember instructions to shoot the messenger
02:38:08 <Mekkis> still, meh
02:38:08 <Avatar> you just watch yourself
02:38:10 <Mekkis> oh yeah
02:39:35 <Mekkis> To Xeron, loyal servant of his majesty Lucifer
02:39:35 <Mekkis> Kreegan, killer of his king's enemies:
02:39:35 <Mekkis> Upon receiving this letter, kill the messenger. No one is to
02:39:35 <Mekkis> learn of its contents. Should its information fall into the hands
02:39:35 <Mekkis> of an enemy, our kingdom of Eeofol may find itself the victim of a
02:39:36 <Mekkis> greater nation's aggression.
02:41:42 <Avatar> what's that from
04:01:17 <Steve1> i fucking hate that bastard who uses steven and i keep kickin him and he just comes back with the same name every time... .damn him!
04:14:59 <Mekkis> no
04:15:43 <steven> eeofol is might and magic.
04:16:11 <steven> im bored.
04:16:28 <steven> worse yet, im bored and dont have a headache
04:18:02 <steven> usually i have a headache so i dont wanna actually do anything at all
04:20:42 <Mekkis> Avatar, my VC's got a habit of enforcing dumb rules.
04:23:21 <steven> it may be time to go play civilization
04:23:32 <Avatar> :D
04:23:34 <steven> and by may, i mean is.
04:24:23 <Mekkis> Wow. The Pooka is pretty good
04:25:01 <Mekkis> Would you consider it a Jerk Move to prevent a PC casting a Create Pit spell if they don't have a 10gp miniature shovel on their ITS/Character sheet
04:25:12 <Avatar> yes
04:25:22 <Avatar> nobody ever has a 10gp miniature shovel on their sheet, unless they are you
04:34:14 <Avatar> then walk from the table
04:34:39 <Steven> I printed off all 24 of my characters with credit on them.
04:35:12 <Avatar> I wouldn't give them the satisfaction
04:35:19 <Steven> I put them in a binder and i just left it at the shop. That way if gm wants to see it they can, but im still going to run off my tablet.
04:35:57 <Mekkis> I'm adding it to 'ways I can stop my VC playing on my table' :P
04:36:27 <Avatar> how are you stopping him playing on your table
04:38:57 <Steven> hrm....
04:39:17 <Brunius> There are 4 13 year old girls running around my house on a sugar high >_<
04:39:32 <Avatar> ops
04:39:39 <Steven> Yay skull and shackles starting this week!
04:39:46 <Avatar> reminds me of that table we played at that traumatised me
04:39:46 <Mekkis> "Look, I can't be seen to be breaking Brock's ruling in front of a VC..."
04:39:59 * Steven does a happy dance like a 13 year old girl on a sugar high
04:42:35 <Steven> alright i finished the dance.
04:43:04 <Avatar> didn't you just say he has a habit of enforcing dumb rules
04:43:10 <Avatar> isn't this you enforcing one
04:43:53 <Steven> no thats him saying he is not going to enforce the ruling.
04:44:29 <Avatar> I don't think it is
04:46:15 <Steven> I think im going to figure out the general direction my character will advance to.
04:49:52 <Steven> so avatar, shackles pirate or Inner Sea Pirate?
04:52:18 <Avatar> what kind of accent do you do for amara li
04:52:41 <Mekkis> an asian one
04:52:43 <Steven> http://archivesofnethys.com/PrestigeClassesDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Inner%20Sea%20Pirate
04:52:50 <Avatar> how strong
04:52:51 <Steven> http://archivesofnethys.com/PrestigeClassesDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Shackles%20Pirate
04:52:52 <Mekkis> stereotypical
04:53:07 <Avatar> give me a fictional character you'd try to mimic
04:53:37 <Mekkis> I don't. I just make the 'r's and the 'l's very simirar
04:53:46 <Steven> I can take them both... but meh...
04:54:32 <Mekkis> and I deliberately stuff around with my emphasis on syllables
04:54:51 <Avatar> I'm not sure that paints her in a terribly good light
04:55:10 <Avatar> I mean I didn't like the lantern lodge, but still
04:55:40 <Avatar> lucy liu doesn't exactly cut it
05:02:06 <Avatar> the only two I can think of are lucy and that chick from stargate universe/marvel agents of shield
05:02:38 <Brunius> I reckon Inner Sea Pirate is better
05:02:54 <Mekkis> darkwhite does it that way
05:03:47 <Steven> combat wise it surely is.
05:03:55 <Avatar> no I want her to be more sophisticated
05:05:17 <Mekkis> the shackles is obviously inferior to the inner sea
05:05:18 <Mekkis> In that case, don't make push the asian-style 'l' that far, speak softly and clearly, take frequent pauses before long words.
05:35:47 <Mekkis> And be very polite
05:40:18 <Avatar> demeanour isn't the problem, it's just accent
05:43:47 <Avatar> inner seaz
05:44:03 <Avatar> I learnt just the other day that apparently all the maps we've seen of golarion are bogus
05:51:11 <Avatar> how do you learn about how a specific curse works
05:52:01 <steven> Its like the World Wars all over again. I'm german and just destroying france. England Russia and America are all about to declare war on me. lol
05:52:50 <Steven> its okay, the whole world of golarion is actually just pretend.
05:52:59 <Steven> lol
05:53:24 <Steven> well i have to drive 170 miles tomorrow, im gonna go to bed.
05:55:19 <Mekkis> bs! I was in Cheliax last night!
06:01:07 <Steven> OH mans!
06:01:23 <Steven> I dont have to drive!
06:01:26 <Steven> WOOT WOOT
06:04:50 <Steven> its time... to dick around.
06:18:03 <Mekkis> How are you reacting to Brock's ruling regarding character sheets?
06:22:53 <Steven> alright, so im going to go with inner sea pirated.... but what should my character actually do.
06:26:37 <Brunius> pirate things
06:27:03 <Mekkis> download Paizo PDFs from torrents
06:27:12 <Brunius> yeah!
06:27:17 <Steven> so pirate!
06:27:18 <Brunius> you should only run him off books you've pirated
06:27:23 <Mekkis> !!!
06:27:30 <Steven> I cant... i already bought the books.
06:27:40 <Mekkis> Pirate them anyway!
06:28:53 <Steven> not very pirate to work at finding them when i already have them
06:29:32 <Brunius> where the bloody hell are all these cho ko nu coming from
06:29:52 <Mekkis> cho ko nu?
06:30:47 <Brunius> chu ko nu
06:32:48 <steven> doop be bob
06:37:10 <Mekkis> what is that
06:37:33 <Brunius> the chinese special unit in civ v
06:37:43 <Mekkis> oh
06:37:46 <Brunius> Like four just rolled out of the fog of war
06:38:02 <Mekkis> I don't have you on water vapour, do I, Brunius
06:38:07 <Brunius> don't think so
06:38:17 <Mekkis> what's your handle?
06:38:22 <Brunius> Brunius
06:41:02 <Mekkis> Just looked at your achievement list. Needs work :P
06:41:19 <Brunius> the only game I've really gone for achievements in is payday 2
06:42:36 <Mekkis> As in, there's no Flawless Strategy
06:43:10 <Brunius> eh
06:43:39 <Mekkis> the achievement
06:43:43 <Mekkis> you don't have it
06:43:47 <Brunius> I know
06:44:29 <Mekkis> sounds like you've got FLAWED strategy
06:44:53 <Brunius> I knowprobably
06:46:39 <Brunius> Do you have a copy of "Mastering C Programming" by Chapman, A?
07:00:00 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> How many classes on 1 character is too many?
07:01:55 <Mekkis> no, why?
07:02:06 <Mekkis> If you're after C programming books...
07:02:10 <Mekkis> Do you have K&R?
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07:14:47 <Brunius> the uni insists I should have a copy
07:16:38 <Mekkis> of K&R?
07:17:42 <Brunius> of Mastering C Programming
07:17:50 <Brunius> from 1991 :S
07:19:53 <Mekkis> K&R, 1978. Second edition published 1988
07:20:43 <Mekkis> I have the forty-ninth printing, January 2012
07:20:46 <Steven> yo
07:24:09 <Mekkis> yo
07:27:10 <Mekkis> Brunius, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mastering-C-Programming-Palgrave-Master-Series-Computing-By-W-Arthur-Cha-/171317591958?pt=AU_Non_Fiction_Books_2&hash=item27e352ff96
07:27:28 <Brunius> Yep, ebay was gonna be the next stop
07:27:34 <Brunius> None of the typical book sites have it
07:27:39 <Mekkis> $13 seems reasonable, but...
07:27:45 <Mekkis> K&R is better
07:29:17 <Mekkis> http://www.amazon.com/C-Programming-Language-2nd/dp/0131103628/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421929739&sr=8-1&keywords=The+C+Programming+Language+Kernighan
07:29:32 <Mekkis> It's the BIBLE
07:33:42 <Steven> its so annoying that the pirate archetype of rogue doesnt get cutlass proficiency
07:34:32 <Mekkis> Goddamnit Steven, we're talking about C here. Not piraC on the C
07:35:43 <Mekkis> How is your community dealing with the requirement for paper, Steven?
07:38:19 <Steven> but piraC so good.
07:40:44 <Steven> alright I'm thinking 4 levels rogue and a level dip.
07:42:35 <Steven> some people are upset, others haven't had any problem at all.
07:43:01 <Mekkis> !spell Greater Make Whole
07:43:04 <Mekkis> 5
07:43:08 <diebot> Mekkis, MAKE WHOLE transmutation ([]) cleric/oracle 2, sorcerer/wizard 2 10 minutes Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one object of up to 10 cu. ft./level or one construct creature of any size Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates (harmless, object) SR:yes (harmless, object)Source: PFRPG Core
07:43:08 <diebot> This spell functions as mending, except that it repairs 1d6 points of damage per level when cast on an object or construct creature (maximum 5d6). Make whole can fix destroyed magic items (at 0 hit points or less), and restores the magic properties of the item if your caster level is at least twice that of the item. Items with charges (such as
07:43:09 <diebot> wands) and single-use items (such as potions and scrolls) cannot be repaired in this way. When make whole is used on a construct creature, the spell bypasses any immunity to magic as if the spell did not allow spell resistance.
07:43:18 <Mekkis> !spell Make Whole, greater
07:43:19 <diebot> Mekkis, MAKE WHOLE, GREATER transmutation ([]) cleric/oracle 4, sorcerer/wizard 4 1 standard action Range: 10 ft. one object of up to 5 lb./level Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates (harmless, object) SR:yes (harmless, object)Source: Technology Guide
07:43:19 <diebot> This spell repairs 1d6 points of damage plus 1 point per level when cast on a construct creature (maximum 10d6+10). Greater make whole can fix destroyed magic items or technological items (items at 0 hit points or fewer), and restores the magic properties of the item if your caster level at least equal to that of the item. This spell otherwise
07:43:20 <diebot> functions as make whole.
07:46:12 <Mekkis> brb, using google to perform some piraC of paizo pdfs
07:51:34 <Mekkis> http://www.google.com.au/search?client=ms-nokia-maemo&channel=unibox&gws_rd=cr&hl=en&tbm=&nfpr=1&ie=UTF-8&q=4-07+severing+ties+filetype%3Apdf
07:51:37 <Mekkis> lol
07:53:30 <Mekkis> top result
07:55:48 <Mekkis> Good to know that Paizo are admitting that the faction changes in season 3, season 5 and season 6 have issues.
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09:32:29 <steven> this game is taking forever.... i shouldnt have clicked the complete destruction button.
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10:48:44 <Steven> so mapped out my character progression for skull and shackles a bit, level 11 I will treat the Eye of Abendego as Normal Weather instead of a Powerful Storm.
10:48:51 <Steven> woot woot
12:12:18 <s_gmusic> wut
13:20:40 <s_gmusic> what's the limit with ninja and rogue archetypes?
13:22:02 <Steven> sup
13:59:48 <Avatar> one hour drive to dandenong and back
13:59:53 <Avatar> not only do they not have any pathfinder maps
14:00:05 <Avatar> they have 2 beginner boxes, 2 gamemastery guides, and what looks to be a random large mini
14:00:07 <Avatar> and that's it
14:06:17 <Brunius> did you consider phoning them first?
14:07:49 <Avatar> I did actually
14:07:57 <Avatar> but I thought they must have some stuff, surely, it's a games shop
14:08:11 <Avatar> beginner boxes and gamemastery guides
14:08:16 <Avatar> you can barely run anything with those
14:08:18 <Avatar> not even a core rulebook
14:11:36 <Mekkis> spoke to local VL: he's planning on ignoring it
14:51:49 <Avatar> I'm a little surprised VO's aren't clarifying mike's intent, that suggests they don't actually know
14:53:42 <Mekkis> remember: Brock's word is only binding if you've read it
14:53:58 <Mekkis> I think they're rather ignore it.
15:29:01 <Avatar> oh really, is that how it works
15:29:07 <Avatar> so you've read it, so it must be binding for you now
15:31:13 <Mekkis> yep
15:33:46 <Avatar> what about your VL, he's read it
15:33:56 <Avatar> maybe he should be banned from PFS
15:37:49 <Avatar> man I'm going to forget to use that january coupon code, I know it
15:43:59 <Mekkis> maybe.
15:44:25 <Mekkis> Maybe I should be. I'm not going to turn anyone with an electronic character sheet away.
15:44:43 <Avatar> maybe you should learn how the commonsense rule can work in everybody's favour
15:45:17 <Mekkis> "Don't be a jerk" trumps "Brock's word".
16:00:02 <Mekkis> 50.
16:00:10 <Avatar> 1d20 + ? = 50
16:00:28 <Avatar> let's say I have a 22 str, that's a +6
16:00:40 <Avatar> so if I roll a nat 20, I will get about half of 50
16:00:54 <Avatar> that's assuming the wall is 3ft thick, which it never is
16:01:01 <Avatar> 3ft
16:01:14 <Mekkis> Investigator. Applied engineering. Lets you use Knowledge (engineering) instead of str
16:01:38 <Avatar> let's assume 20 ranks in kn. engineering
16:01:43 <Avatar> so that puts me up to about DC 40
16:01:50 <Avatar> 20 total, not 20 ranks
16:02:26 <Avatar> this is still assuming a 3ft wall that doesn't exist
16:06:21 <Mekkis> Ancestral Communion gives +6 insight bonus, Page-Bound Epiphany gives +10 circumstance bonus, Heightened Awareness gives +2 competence bonus, masterwork tool gives +2 circumstance bonus. We're at +20. 7 ranks, 20 int already has us at +32...
16:06:21 <Avatar> gotta run
16:06:34 <Mekkis> Lore master lets you take 20.
16:06:41 <Avatar> yeah ok get a 5ft wall's DC now
16:26:30 <Avatar> I'd be surprised to see what would happen at a table where the player didn't like the rule and brought his device, and the GM didn't like the rule and enforced it anyway
16:27:46 <Avatar> a VO would have fun trying to fix that situation if they got called in as a mediator
16:28:22 <Avatar> hopefully they wouldn't lean towards telling the player "sorry, it's the rules, if the GM says he doesn't want devices at the table, you have to adhere because PFS"
16:31:23 <Steven> well that sucks
16:32:56 <Brunius> I know GG box hill has a whole bunch of flip mats
17:21:32 <Mekkis> IDENTIFY
17:48:25 <Mekkis> Brunius, if they have City Streets, buy it.
17:48:29 <Mekkis> I'll get it off you
17:49:05 <Brunius> I'll check next time I'm in the area
17:56:30 <spider21b> hi
18:07:09 <Mekkis> I like it how Avatar is arguing that players shouldn't be expected to read the spells they're casting/
18:33:47 <Brunius> er
18:33:48 <Brunius> what?
18:33:58 <Brunius> maybe I should just roll for what spell I'm casting then
18:39:04 <Steven> YEAH!
18:46:31 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rwfi&page=3?Does-anyone-actually-inspect-inventory-sheets#123
18:50:19 <Mekkis> Brunius, you up for some multiplayer civ
20:07:06 <Steven> sup im back.
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22:49:23 <Avatar> pfs funtimez
22:49:35 <Avatar> I almost didn't recognise spaceshot :|
22:49:51 <Brunius> did he cut his hair
22:53:37 <Avatar> no
22:53:40 <Avatar> I think he might have grown it?
22:53:49 <Avatar> he wears glasses now
22:53:59 <Brunius> Hmm
22:56:11 <Avatar> so I am expecting to die tomorrow
22:56:23 <Brunius> have you considered not
22:56:32 <Avatar> I am playing snickers and I am having trouble staying alive
22:57:04 <Brunius> get some full plate to wear
22:57:05 <Brunius> duh
22:57:17 <Avatar> hmm can you use supernatural abilities cleanly through full plate
22:57:42 <Brunius> I don't think it would matter unless the su specifically called it out
22:58:05 <Avatar> can you fly in full plate
22:58:11 <Avatar> bit of AC penalty and encumberance
22:58:14 <Brunius> that would depend on how much you can lift
22:58:20 <Avatar> dumped str
22:58:35 <Brunius> can you even carry fullplate normally then?
22:59:09 <Avatar> in a haversack
22:59:22 <Avatar> I don't think AC is really her only problem
22:59:32 <Avatar> AC is only one problem of many to deal with
23:31:28 <Mekkis> I think the biggest problem is how you play her
23:32:01 <Avatar> 30ft range hexes don't help
23:32:38 <Avatar> it would've been handy if I'd known vermin can't be put to sleep
23:32:46 <Avatar> the last one was bad luck
23:50:59 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> So far, the confirmation isn't going to be played, or it's going to be filled with Friday rockups
23:52:48 <Avatar> I bought that battery for a mini and ended up forgetting it at home
23:53:37 <Steven> hey hey
23:59:57 <Avatar> ye