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00:11:22 <Steven> I has pie.
03:32:12 <Avatar> bards really get screwed with their spell choices
03:32:37 <Avatar> UC didn't even bring out 5th level bard spells, and the ACG only brought out one 5th level bard spell, which is to create a whip of centipedes. really?
04:06:51 <Avatar> eyes part 2 completed yo
04:07:22 <Avatar> that puts Buck at level 13
04:35:46 <Avatar> didn't end up buying that decoy ring, and I'm pretty sure there was at least one instance where it would have helped
06:12:49 <Steven> sup
06:12:56 <Steven> I played Eyes p3 today.
06:13:26 <Steven> ...
06:13:28 <Steven> i didnt really.
06:13:33 <Steven> I just helped with some combats.
07:30:09 <Mekkis> Avatar, read your post. I need to ask...
07:30:45 <Mekkis> over the past two months, has your scenario buying gone down?
07:37:03 <Steven> mine has stayed constant.
07:37:32 <Mekkis> I can imagine
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07:46:53 <Mekkis> Avatar, not because the price has increased by 20%?
07:58:23 <Avatar> has it
07:58:49 <Avatar> they're still $4
07:59:40 <Avatar> what are you talking about
08:01:52 <Mekkis> you're paying 20% more. The Australian dollar has dropped from 96c to 77c
08:03:13 <Avatar> that can't be helped
08:03:17 <Avatar> I buy games on steam all the time
08:03:33 <Avatar> do you have a way to get cheap scenarios
08:04:46 <Mekkis> no, but I was referring to your quote about not wanting Paizo to increase the price.
08:06:28 <Avatar> so you think they should increase it
08:06:38 <Mekkis> me? yes actually.
08:06:55 <Mekkis> well..
08:07:09 <Avatar> I think it's one thing if the AUD is worth less, and another if paizo decides to increase the price themselves
08:07:09 <Mekkis> Maybe I should rephrase it.
08:07:30 <Mekkis> If they could improve the quantity and quality of scenarios, I would be willing to pay more for it.
08:07:31 <Avatar> if I saw a dramatic difference in the way they publish, I'd be very very surprised
08:07:42 <Mekkis> and I think that they should do it.
08:08:13 <Avatar> I think that's very idealistic thinking that paizo has never shown a history of actually doing
08:08:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, to me, if I'm paying AUD5 for a scenario, it doesn't matter if Paizo is charging USD5 or USD2.
08:08:33 <Avatar> so if the publishing quality or quantity didn't change, and you were paying $1-3 more, would you still be happy
08:08:41 <Mekkis> no
08:08:48 <Avatar> that's part of my thinking
08:28:41 <Avatar> I need this FAQ parsed for me for different sizes: http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9t0g
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10:06:13 <Mekkis> Avatar, easiest way is through CA. Want to connect so I can demonstrate?
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11:18:37 <Mekkis> My apologies, Avatar: it actually is more complicated than I thought
11:18:46 <Mekkis> Existing CA functions don't support it
11:19:02 <Mekkis> (does the thing you use support it properly?)
11:21:17 <Avatar> it supports freeform lines
11:21:23 <Avatar> are you talking roll20
11:21:48 <Avatar> just zoom all the way out so the image can be small
11:22:10 <Avatar> really just need sizes for medium creatures, large and huge
11:22:24 <Avatar> I think
11:22:26 <Mekkis> Sure....
11:22:41 <Mekkis> but the question is: do you still need to specify a corner?
11:22:56 <Avatar> I think centered on you means in your square
11:23:01 <Avatar> in the centre of it
11:23:24 <Avatar> for a large creature, that might be the centre corner
11:24:00 <Mekkis> ah, but there is no specification of what centring on squares actually means.
11:24:59 <Avatar> show me your outlines and then we'll talk
11:25:06 <Avatar> if it's wrong it should become obvious
11:29:27 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/FAQed_10ft_radius.png
11:31:31 <Avatar> that is a very big emergency force sphere for a medium sized creature
11:33:55 <Avatar> the medium size one is still questionable, in that should it be even bigger than that?
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11:39:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, it's not an emergency force sphere
11:39:56 <Mekkis> it's an antimagic field: 10' radius
11:45:55 <Avatar> centered on you
11:46:24 <Avatar> this is the thing, it's not necessarily the same as a burst, it's a separate game term
11:46:39 <Avatar> 10' radius is different to 10' radius centered on you
11:46:46 <Avatar> specifically from this FAQ
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12:02:32 <Mekkis> oh?
12:04:23 <Mekkis> An antimagic field isn't centred on you?
12:06:34 <Avatar> !spell anti magic field
12:06:35 <diebot> Avatar, ANTIMAGIC FIELD abjuration ([]) cleric/oracle 8, sorcerer/wizard 6 1 standard action Range: 10 ft. Comp: V, S, M/DF (pinch of powdered iron or iron filings) Duration: 10 min./level (D) Save: none SR:see textSource: PFRPG Core
12:06:35 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/antimagic_field.html
12:06:59 <Avatar> yeah it is
12:07:14 <Avatar> both are the same, except one is 5ft and one is 10ft
12:07:24 <Avatar> isn't the one in the top right for 5ft?
12:07:32 <Avatar> top left
12:09:09 <Mekkis> nope
12:09:21 <Avatar> well what is it
12:09:32 <Mekkis> 10'
12:09:43 <Avatar> so where is 5'
12:09:54 <Mekkis> All of them are 10'
12:10:01 <Mekkis> for different sizes
12:10:11 <Avatar> are we talking about the same thing?
12:10:14 <Avatar> did the FAQ mention anti magic field
12:10:23 <Mekkis> it did
12:10:41 <Mekkis> For instance, an antimagic field cast by a great wyrm red dragon would extend 10 feet beyond her 30x30 foot space, for a total of a 50 foot diameter.
12:11:55 <Avatar> oh my god you're right
12:11:57 <Avatar> that changes everything
12:12:28 <Mekkis> EFS would just be represented by a square
12:14:34 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/FAQed_5ft_radius.png
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12:28:19 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/FAQed_5ft_radius.png
14:29:51 <Avatar> it has, but only because I haven't ran a lot lately
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14:42:51 <Mekkis> is there anything that would prevent a tiny creature from carrying a scabbard sized for a medium weapon?
14:43:18 <Mekkis> (are there any extradimensional scabbards?>)
14:51:35 <Avatar> carrying capacity
14:55:52 <Mekkis> anything else?
14:56:18 <Mekkis> Has Buck done anything to fix his image problem?
15:01:10 <Steven> hi hi
15:02:14 <Mekkis> hi
15:02:20 <Mekkis> can you answer my question?
15:02:52 <Mekkis> !item scabbard of many blades
15:02:55 <diebot> Mekkis, SCABBARD OF KEEN EDGES [faint transmutation] CL:5 none 16000gp, 1lb
15:02:57 <diebot> This black scabbard is engraved with intricate silver runes that depict all manner of bladed weapons. A scabbard of keen edges can shrink or enlarge to accommodate any knife, dagger, sword, or similar weapon up to and including a greatsword. Up to three times per day on command, the scabbard casts keen edge on any blade placed within it. Runes
15:02:57 <diebot> similar to those on the outside of the scabbard appear on a blade while it is under this keen edge effect. Source: Ultimate Equipment
15:47:34 <Mekkis> Avatar, not because the price has increased by 20%?
15:59:03 <Avatar> has it
15:59:29 <Avatar> they're still $4
16:00:20 <Avatar> what are you talking about
16:02:33 <Mekkis> you're paying 20% more. The Australian dollar has dropped from 96c to 77c
16:03:53 <Avatar> that can't be helped
16:03:57 <Avatar> I buy games on steam all the time
16:04:13 <Avatar> do you have a way to get cheap scenarios
16:05:27 <Mekkis> no, but I was referring to your quote about not wanting Paizo to increase the price.
16:07:08 <Avatar> so you think they should increase it
16:07:19 <Mekkis> me? yes actually.
16:07:35 <Mekkis> well..
16:07:49 <Avatar> I think it's one thing if the AUD is worth less, and another if paizo decides to increase the price themselves
16:07:50 <Mekkis> Maybe I should rephrase it.
16:08:10 <Mekkis> If they could improve the quantity and quality of scenarios, I would be willing to pay more for it.
16:08:11 <Avatar> if I saw a dramatic difference in the way they publish, I'd be very very surprised
16:08:23 <Mekkis> and I think that they should do it.
16:08:53 <Avatar> I think that's very idealistic thinking that paizo has never shown a history of actually doing
16:09:00 <Mekkis> Avatar, to me, if I'm paying AUD5 for a scenario, it doesn't matter if Paizo is charging USD5 or USD2.
16:09:13 <Avatar> so if the publishing quality or quantity didn't change, and you were paying $1-3 more, would you still be happy
16:09:21 <Mekkis> no
16:09:27 <Avatar> that's part of my thinking
16:29:21 <Avatar> I need this FAQ parsed for me for different sizes: http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9t0g
17:27:57 <Avatar> I want to know what else besmara gives away
17:28:00 <Avatar> or is it just $50?
17:28:03 <Steven> avatar, if you could pick a different diety which would it be?
17:28:11 <Avatar> I dunno, desna
17:28:17 <Steven> why desna?
17:28:35 <Avatar> you mentioned the rapier and I'm thinking access to butterfly sting
17:28:49 <Mekkis> don't do it
17:29:07 <Avatar> I don't care if that's not the option, as long as there is some other option
17:29:14 <Avatar> for which besmara has none
17:29:15 <Steven> i dont really think its worth the retraining costs.
17:29:35 <Avatar> fair enough, so what else should I do
17:29:46 <Avatar> I'll upload my char sheet if it's not the latest, hang on
17:29:52 <Mekkis> stick with Besmara
17:29:58 <Mekkis> Or..
17:30:02 <Mekkis> Turn to Asmodeus
17:30:05 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=308
17:30:10 <Avatar> it kind of is the latest, bar one scenario
17:30:48 <Avatar> skip over the scenario notes I wrote and didn't erase on that sheet
17:31:40 <Mekkis> wow
17:31:58 <Mekkis> Buck must look pretty weird these days.
17:32:07 <Avatar> what are you talking about
17:32:11 <Avatar> he has an eye patch
17:32:21 <Mekkis> covered by a mantis mask
17:32:32 <Avatar> yeah
17:32:40 <Avatar> look at least it's not a jingasa
17:33:12 <Mekkis> I have no problem with mantis masks, but are you dressing the part?
17:33:12 <Avatar> I've never had to use that bracelet of second chances to date
17:33:22 <Avatar> I'm doing the best I can
17:33:40 <Mekkis> dressing as a red mantis?
17:34:02 <Mekkis> shit man, you ARE worshipping the wrong god
17:34:18 <Avatar> it's just one of their masks man
17:34:22 <Avatar> I am not donning their whole outfit
17:34:28 <Mekkis> why not?
17:34:32 <Avatar> I have an eyepatch
17:34:43 <Mekkis> sure, but noone can see that
17:34:50 <Avatar> it's on the outside of the mask ok
17:35:22 <Mekkis> have you seen what the mask looks like?
17:35:50 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/image/content/CrimsonThrone/PZO9009-RedMantis.jpg
17:35:59 <Avatar> yeah that's fine
17:36:05 <Mekkis> where are you putting the eyepatch?
17:36:14 <Avatar> OVER THE EYE
17:36:38 <Avatar> Buck uses his right eye to aim his musket
17:36:42 <Mekkis> that would look really dumb.
17:36:51 <Mekkis> What's covering Buck's torso?
17:36:54 <Avatar> then it's under the mask
17:37:01 <Avatar> I don't care, he's wearing it, and that's all Besmara would care about
17:37:19 <Avatar> unfettered shirt
17:37:33 <Mekkis> isn't the shirt worn under the armour?
17:37:38 <Avatar> yeah
17:37:48 <Avatar> he's wearing armor as well
17:37:59 <Mekkis> what's the armour?
17:38:07 <Avatar> elven chain
17:38:17 <Mekkis> is that the outermost layer?
17:39:11 <Avatar> yeah
17:39:15 <Avatar> does that matter
17:39:18 <Mekkis> yes
17:39:20 <Avatar> no
17:39:57 <Steven> alright.
17:40:08 <Steven> avatar... did you buy a cloak of resistance?
17:40:18 <Avatar> no I have no interest in a cloak of resistance
17:40:30 <Avatar> I might find one and use that, but I have a cape of the mountebank
17:40:46 <Avatar> oh wait, no I don't
17:41:04 <Steven> buy a ddoor cloak not the ring.
17:41:07 <Avatar> the same thing still applies
17:41:21 <Avatar> I don't actually have a ddoor item?
17:41:33 <Avatar> should I keep picking up cloaks of resist or get a proper cloak?
17:41:55 <Avatar> it's so easy to pick up cloaks of resistance because almost everyone has either that or some other cloak, so I get first dibs constantly
17:42:18 <Steven> ddoor cloak>cloak of resistance for getting away from things.
17:42:28 <Avatar> obv
17:42:45 <Steven> ddoor cloak>decoy ring for getting away from things.
17:42:54 <Avatar> ddor cloak is 1/day
17:43:01 <Steven> then get the upgraded version.
17:43:05 <Avatar> so once you use it once, decoy ring>ddoor cloak
17:43:07 <Steven> that lets you do it 3/day
17:43:11 <Avatar> how much does that cost
17:43:18 <Avatar> I didn't even know there was a greater
17:43:33 <Avatar> in fact I am not sure there is one
17:43:40 <Steven> there is one.
17:43:50 <Avatar> charlatan's cape, 45000gp
17:43:56 <Avatar> mate I have a lot of money but I don't have that much
17:44:09 <Steven> so save up.
17:44:17 <Avatar> I don't think my fame even lets me buy something that expensive
17:44:22 <Avatar> realistic suggestions only, please!
17:44:40 <Steven> if you've gotten 4prestige per level you can afford that item.
17:45:04 <Mekkis> here's what a mantis mask looks like, when worn with Elven chain:
17:45:16 <Avatar> you need 49 fame for it
17:45:18 <Avatar> I have 44
17:45:32 <Avatar> Mekkis: I don't care
17:45:33 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/mantis_elvenchain.png
17:45:46 <Avatar> Buck doesn't have a female torso
17:46:01 <Mekkis> sure, but it looks similar to that
17:46:10 <Avatar> Buck does not look similiar to a female in any way
17:46:15 <Avatar> not even with elven chain
17:46:26 <Avatar> Buck is a very masculine looking man
17:46:32 <Steven> how did you miss out on so much prestige... my 12th level characters have always had ~60 prestige.
17:46:34 <Avatar> if you don't see that, you have the wrong mental image
17:47:03 <Mekkis> I'm more pointing out the clash of styles here
17:47:22 <Steven> damn man... thats a lot of missing prestige.
17:47:32 <Avatar> I might have to recheck the prestige now that I look at it
17:47:39 <Avatar> the earlier scenarios didn't have prestige recorded on my sheet
17:47:53 <Avatar> it's a mask that doesn't belong to the rest of the outfit
17:48:00 <Avatar> that's normal with any wondrous item that looks like that
17:48:15 <Avatar> it's a *mask*
17:48:30 <Avatar> I'm not going to a dinner party
17:49:40 <Steven> Alright...
17:50:06 <Steven> sell your boots of springing and striding, since you're only using half of what the item actually gives you.
17:50:18 <Steven> buy boots of the lightning leaper
17:51:20 <Avatar> 1/day
17:51:31 <Steven> or boots of escape
17:51:54 <Steven> yeah its only once per day... lots of 'get me the fuck out of melee' items are.
17:53:00 <Steven> the Ring of decoy at 12th level is lackluster in the extreme because you're in the tier where a great many of the creatures you're running into that are challenging are all about truesight/seeinvis
17:55:11 <Steven> there is a very specific combo you do with a ring of decoy that makes it a good item. You did not do it, so its a meh item.
17:58:35 <Mekkis> Avatar, can't you just cast Litany of Sloth, and walk out?
17:59:50 <Steven> he is concerned about multiple creatures in melee with him.
18:00:08 <Mekkis> he should be more concerned about his image problem
18:00:31 <Steven> more or less then all the people walking around with a tien helmet on their head?
18:00:56 <Mekkis> I'd say a little more, but the tien helmet would still be an issue
18:01:15 <Avatar> what do you guys think about swift actions and AoOs
18:01:18 <Avatar> do they provoke
18:01:23 <Mekkis> sometimes
18:01:41 <Steven> generally swift actions do not provoke.
18:01:41 <Mekkis> there's no blanket statement saying they don't
18:02:01 <Steven> but I can think of 3 swift actions that provoke because they specifically say they do.
18:03:01 <Steven> casting a spell as a swift action does not provoke.
18:03:34 <Avatar> that's what I think
18:03:42 <Avatar> they don't provoke unless there is text specifically saying they do
18:03:56 <Mekkis> Steven, where does it say that? I know casting a quickened spell doesn't provoke...
18:04:09 <Steven> Magic section of the core rule book?
18:04:15 <Avatar> really?
18:04:27 <Avatar> I thought the closest blanket statement was in Types of Actions
18:04:31 <Avatar> in the combat chapter
18:04:50 <Avatar> yeah you're right
18:05:20 <Avatar> see, it specifically says it there that it doesn't provoke because casting a spell usually provokes
18:05:25 <Avatar> not because swift actions usually provoke
18:05:35 <Avatar> for some reason they don't say it outright
18:06:38 <Mekkis> For example, retrieving an item from a spring-loaded wrist sheath provokes
18:06:53 <Mekkis> Avatar, easiest way is through CA. Want to connect so I can demonstrate?
18:07:56 <Avatar> no it doesn't?
18:08:04 <Avatar> putting an item back in does
18:08:05 <Mekkis> what?
18:08:09 <Mekkis> of course it does
18:08:28 <Avatar> from a wrist sheathe it does because it's a move action
18:08:54 <Mekkis> no, from a wrist sheath it does because it's a "retrieve an item" action
18:09:23 <Mekkis> a spring-loaded one makes the "retrieve an item" action a swift action, so it still provokes
18:09:24 <Avatar> but it's a swift action, not a move action
18:09:34 <Avatar> retrieve an item provokes because it's a move action
18:10:31 <Mekkis> not all move actions provoke
18:10:45 <Avatar> that one does though
18:10:57 <Mekkis> that's because it's a "retrieve an item" action
18:11:05 <Avatar> changing it to a swift action changes whether it provokes
18:11:17 <Avatar> because swift actions don't provoke unless it specifically says it does
18:11:25 <Mekkis> Citation?
18:11:32 <Avatar> every mention of swift actions
18:11:51 <Avatar> there's no blanket statement, I can't say it with 100% certainty
18:11:59 <Avatar> but that seems to me that it's the intent
18:12:04 <Mekkis> Nowhere does it say that swift actions don't provoke
18:12:16 <Avatar> but every time it does provoke, it specifically says so
18:12:40 <Avatar> anyway this is a table variance argument
18:12:48 <Avatar> neither of us can be certain we're right
18:12:51 <Mekkis> Wrist Sheath, Spring Loaded: This item
18:12:51 <Mekkis> works like a standard wrist sheath
18:13:19 <Mekkis> Yay. A broken item, that people keep arguing should be more broken!
18:13:25 <Avatar> I actually already have litany of sloth on my spell list
18:13:32 <Mekkis> I know
18:14:15 <Avatar> I really don't want to argue about the SLWS, but it's that kind of variance that makes me say no to playing at your table
18:14:29 <Mekkis> also, the wrist sheath specifically says "Provoking attacks of opportunity as normal"
18:14:41 <Avatar> because of the move action on that item
18:14:53 <Avatar> it "works like a standard wrist sheath" in terms of its description
18:15:04 <Avatar> the action changes, so the AoO does as well
18:15:12 <Mekkis> it would keep the "provoking attacks of opportunity as normal"
18:15:15 <Avatar> neither mention it so we can't be 100% sure
18:15:23 <Avatar> we are both technically as right as we can be about it
18:15:25 <Mekkis> the action isn't changing: just the time it takes to perform the action
18:15:47 <Avatar> right, that's the same thing in my terminology
18:15:53 <Avatar> the time it takes changes
18:16:01 <Avatar> so does the AoO that accommodates the time it takes
18:16:59 <Steven> back.
18:17:11 <Steven> oh god... you're still going on about that.
18:17:44 <Steven> i think JJacob had a post about it.
18:18:00 <Steven> yeah i know... not a rules guy... blah blah.
18:18:33 <Steven> it gives an idea about intent of the item though.
18:18:41 <Steven> let me go find the post.
18:20:04 <Steven> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l7ns&page=469?Ask-James-Jacobs-ALL-your-Questions-Here#23415
18:22:19 <Steven> alrighty... i am going to the store, hopefully you're all finished with this topic when im back.
18:28:06 <Avatar> thank you steven
19:01:12 <Avatar> apparently it's going to be 32 degrees today, but it's gone from 18 degrees to 21 degrees since midnight (and it's now 11am)
19:01:21 <Avatar> we have the room booked until 8pm
19:01:28 <Avatar> so basically it will probably be steaming hot at the end of our game
19:12:47 <Avatar> will check it later
19:12:48 <Avatar> I'm hungry
19:12:55 <Avatar> imgur some screenshots if you're feeling bored
19:13:06 <Avatar> that way we can link the damn things on the messageboards so we're all on the same page
19:16:56 <vpsirc> sure
19:19:18 <Mekkis> My apologies, Avatar: it actually is more complicated than I thought
19:19:28 <Mekkis> Existing CA functions don't support it
19:19:42 <Mekkis> (does the thing you use support it properly?)
19:21:57 <Avatar> it supports freeform lines
19:22:03 <Avatar> are you talking roll20
19:22:28 <Avatar> just zoom all the way out so the image can be small
19:22:48 <Avatar> really just need sizes for medium creatures, large and huge
19:23:04 <Avatar> I think
19:23:07 <Mekkis> Sure....
19:23:21 <Mekkis> but the question is: do you still need to specify a corner?
19:23:36 <Avatar> I think centered on you means in your square
19:23:41 <Avatar> in the centre of it
19:24:04 <Avatar> for a large creature, that might be the centre corner
19:24:41 <Mekkis> ah, but there is no specification of what centring on squares actually means.
19:25:39 <Avatar> show me your outlines and then we'll talk
19:25:46 <Avatar> if it's wrong it should become obvious
19:30:07 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/FAQed_10ft_radius.png
19:32:11 <Avatar> that is a very big emergency force sphere for a medium sized creature
19:34:35 <Avatar> the medium size one is still questionable, in that should it be even bigger than that?
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19:40:30 <Mekkis> Avatar, it's not an emergency force sphere
19:42:50 <Mekkis> it's an antimagic field: 10' radius
19:43:52 <Mekkis> Steven, is there anything that would prevent a tiny creature from carrying a scabbard sized for a medium weapon?
19:46:34 <Avatar> centered on you
19:47:04 <Avatar> this is the thing, it's not necessarily the same as a burst, it's a separate game term
19:47:18 <Avatar> 10' radius is different to 10' radius centered on you
19:47:26 <Avatar> specifically from this FAQ
20:00:22 <Mekkis> I was thinking of having a tiny creature use Equipment Trick to steal people's weapons
20:00:40 <Avatar> these next inquisitor class features I get sort of beg me to pick up snap shot now
20:00:49 <Avatar> otherwise they barely fucking work
20:03:18 <Mekkis> oh?
20:05:03 <Mekkis> An antimagic field isn't centred on you?
20:07:13 <Avatar> !spell anti magic field
20:07:14 <diebot> Avatar, ANTIMAGIC FIELD abjuration ([]) cleric/oracle 8, sorcerer/wizard 6 1 standard action Range: 10 ft. Comp: V, S, M/DF (pinch of powdered iron or iron filings) Duration: 10 min./level (D) Save: none SR:see textSource: PFRPG Core
20:07:14 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/antimagic_field.html
20:07:39 <Avatar> yeah it is
20:07:53 <Avatar> both are the same, except one is 5ft and one is 10ft
20:08:04 <Avatar> isn't the one in the top right for 5ft?
20:08:12 <Avatar> top left
20:09:36 <Brunius> why did the government give me all this money
20:09:41 <Brunius> now I'm going to spend it on things I don't need
20:09:49 <Mekkis> nope
20:10:01 <Avatar> well what is it
20:10:13 <Mekkis> 10'
20:10:23 <Avatar> so where is 5'
20:10:34 <Mekkis> All of them are 10'
20:10:42 <Mekkis> for different sizes
20:10:50 <Avatar> are we talking about the same thing?
20:10:54 <Avatar> did the FAQ mention anti magic field
20:11:04 <Mekkis> it did
20:11:22 <Mekkis> For instance, an antimagic field cast by a great wyrm red dragon would extend 10 feet beyond her 30x30 foot space, for a total of a 50 foot diameter.
20:11:44 <Mekkis> because they were supposed to give it to me.
20:11:47 <Mekkis> Hand it over :P
20:12:02 <Brunius> are you still selling your car?
20:12:06 <Brunius> i definitely don't need a car
20:12:15 <Mekkis> it's still on the table, yes
20:12:35 <Avatar> oh my god you're right
20:12:37 <Avatar> that changes everything
20:13:09 <Mekkis> EFS would just be represented by a square
20:15:53 <Avatar> that's why this wasn't making sense
20:29:01 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/FAQed_5ft_radius.png
20:33:44 <Mekkis> otherwise, you should spend it on your uni
20:33:47 <Mekkis> seriously
20:37:20 <Brunius> I have about $300 in fees to pay, and ~$100 of textbooks to buy. Probably that much again for next semester. That still leaves me with far too much money, so the plan is to put that money into somewhere that I can't go spending it, in case of (unexpected textbooks|laptop breakage|suddenly, fees|etc)
20:38:22 <Avatar> yeah I'm not sure if the 10ft ones are meant to be squares as well?
20:40:02 <Mekkis> You don't have $300 of fees to pay.
20:40:10 <Mekkis> You have ~$5300.
20:40:27 <Brunius> i can defer about $7000
20:40:36 <Mekkis> consider not deferring
20:40:46 <Avatar> yeah I think my 13th level feat is between deft shootist deed or snap shot
20:40:46 <Brunius> ...
20:41:09 <Avatar> deft shootist means I don't provoke when shooting/reloading, but also requires mobility
20:41:15 <Mekkis> Otherwise, I recommend a high-interest savings account. Or, even better, the Mekkis wants a house fund.
20:41:26 <Avatar> and snap shot means I threaten within 5ft and can make AoOs
20:41:39 <Avatar> and my inquisitor class features that I get now only come into play if I threaten
20:41:55 <Avatar> so either I take snap shot or I abandon that inquisitor level and take a level of something else
20:42:19 <Avatar> I was avoiding snap shot to not go into OP mode, but this character is about to retire
20:42:21 <Avatar> it might be time
20:43:23 <Brunius> not really enough to go into a savings account
20:43:43 <Mekkis> There is never 'not enough to go into a savings account'
20:44:25 <Mekkis> but the Mekkis wants a house fund will accept any amount
20:44:39 <Avatar> otherwise I could take a level of something else, the 3rd level spellbreak abilities aren't amazing anyway
20:45:19 <Mekkis> Do you have an ING account?
20:45:44 <Brunius> nope
20:46:03 <Mekkis> You should get one, for two reasons:
20:46:21 <Mekkis> 1. They give you the highest interest rate you can get in Australia, as far as I can tell.
20:46:35 <Mekkis> 2. I get a kickback if I refer you.
20:46:38 <Avatar> maybe alchemist
20:46:47 <Avatar> gunslinger who can start throwing bombs would be rather bad ass
20:47:12 <Brunius> I'll look into it
20:47:24 <Avatar> except that a 1d6 bomb at level 13 is something of a joke
20:47:37 <Avatar> that's a shame
20:48:19 <Mekkis> but yeah, good luck getting 4% return anywhere else
20:50:14 <Avatar> swashbuckler maybe
20:50:42 <Avatar> one that doesn't use cha, because Buck isn't a very charming fellow
20:53:41 <Avatar> doesn't exist
21:13:37 <Avatar> I might even retrain critical focus for combat reflexes if I take snap shot
21:14:36 <Avatar> improved snap shot is probably overkill
22:11:40 <s_gmusic> Improved Snap Shot is best. Greater is overkill
22:16:08 <Avatar> no improved snap shot is overpowered
22:16:24 <Avatar> that's what I mean by overkill
22:16:41 <Avatar> I don't mean more feats in the line that start to become dumb choices to take
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22:43:33 <Mekkis> is there anything that would prevent a tiny creature from carrying a scabbard sized for a medium weapon?
22:44:00 <Mekkis> (are there any extradimensional scabbards?>)
22:52:15 <Avatar> carrying capacity
22:56:32 <Mekkis> anything else?
22:56:59 <Mekkis> Has Buck done anything to fix his image problem?
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23:01:49 <Steven> hi hi
23:02:55 <Mekkis> hi
23:03:01 <Mekkis> can you answer my question?
23:03:33 <Mekkis> !item scabbard of many blades
23:03:35 <diebot> Mekkis, SCABBARD OF KEEN EDGES [faint transmutation] CL:5 none 16000gp, 1lb
23:03:36 <diebot> This black scabbard is engraved with intricate silver runes that depict all manner of bladed weapons. A scabbard of keen edges can shrink or enlarge to accommodate any knife, dagger, sword, or similar weapon up to and including a greatsword. Up to three times per day on command, the scabbard casts keen edge on any blade placed within it. Runes
23:03:36 <diebot> similar to those on the outside of the scabbard appear on a blade while it is under this keen edge effect. Source: Ultimate Equipment
23:09:10 <Avatar> Buck doesn't have an image problem
23:09:14 <Avatar> well, except his 8 charisma I guess
23:09:20 <Avatar> but he is above that
23:35:08 <Steven> i will try to answer questions, i am currently suffering from a migraine..
23:35:46 <Steven> i dealt with complaining piss ant magic players today... so i'm marginally grumpy.
23:36:17 <Steven> heh... i just got that you're talkin to avatar.
23:36:28 <Steven> I want pie... i think im going to go get a piece of pie.
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