// #d&d — 2015-01-25
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00:17:54 <Steven> sup
03:35:55 <Mekkis> practicing my "character art for people with no artistic skill" skill
03:38:22 <Steven> cool
03:38:55 <Mekkis> and playing the Faerûn mod for Civ 5
03:39:31 <Steven> also cool?
03:39:42 <Mekkis> it is definitely cool
03:42:38 <Mekkis> What are you doing?
03:43:50 <Steven> i am trying to decide what to do with my skull and shackles character. He is going Ranger5/Inner Sea Pirate 10... i think you only get to 15 or 16 in S&S
03:44:21 <Steven> but in combat other then "Watch me hit things with this sword" i need to figure out what he is going to do.
03:46:26 <Mekkis> "Hitting things with a sword" isn't an unreasonable thing to do in combat
03:47:41 <Steven> yeah, but i need to figure out what else i wanna do. I took Imp Unarmed Strike, cause i think pirates should be able to fist fight
03:49:38 <Mekkis> Dirty Trick?
03:51:05 <Steven> in our Kingmaker AP walter has a dirty trick guy... the GM really doesnt like it because walter can in 1 turn be like... Your blinded, your entangled, your deafened.
03:53:21 <Steven> dont really want to piss off the gm for a game I have been trying to play since it was announced.
03:55:25 <Mekkis> disarm?
03:56:23 <Steven> dont qualify... only 10 int.
03:57:01 <Steven> 17/14/16/10/12/10 after racials
03:57:14 <Steven> 25pb
03:57:38 <Steven> darn... not on a combat style.
04:02:24 <Steven> pretty much anything except summoner is legal
04:04:18 <Mekkis> fiddle your stats to get 13 int?
04:19:36 <Steven> back... sorry.
04:19:50 <Steven> I have a racial -2 so it costs a decent chunk.
04:20:59 <Steven> I'm thinking Amateur Swashbuckler and get Daring doo
04:22:41 <Steven> Corsair feat: +2 init +1 dmg w/ light or one handed weapons while on board a ship
04:34:19 <Mekkis> Disarm without using the improved disarm feat?
04:50:57 <Steven> alright, got a rough outline.
04:51:05 <Steven> time to play some games.
04:55:56 <Mekkis> My diceless character has now played three games!
05:27:12 <Steven> how did it do?
05:28:21 <Mekkis> Well, I failed a will save that caused me to eat a corpse
05:28:32 <Steven> segang expidition.
05:28:38 <Mekkis> and was about to fail a fort save to prevent Something Bad from happening.
05:28:42 <Mekkis> Nope...
05:28:49 <Mekkis> maybe.
05:28:57 <Mekkis> 6-07 I think?
05:29:06 <Steven> yeah thats seagang
05:29:11 <Mekkis> yeah
05:29:34 <Mekkis> luckily, one of my party members had some ability that allows them to roll a save for me
05:29:42 <Steven> that one got my Gnome barbarian... then i nat 1'd on the fort save so spent the rest of the time sickened.
05:29:58 <Mekkis> sickened would have been awesome
05:30:06 <Mekkis> my to-hit would have dropped to -20!
05:31:13 <Steven> brb, gonna start up steam to play some civ5
05:31:23 <Mekkis> Want to make it multiplayer?
05:40:20 <Steven> nah, im missing the religious expac
05:43:11 <Mekkis> so only BNW?
05:43:34 <Mekkis> Could I get a toothpick, and use it as an improvised tiny dagger?
05:53:55 <Steven> gotta finish up my germany victory.
06:03:45 <Steven> alright... so 3 civs left that are a 'threat'
06:04:17 <Steven> but i have 18 Giant Death Robots.
06:05:38 <Mekkis> You should have won by now?
06:09:40 <Steven> im at war with everyone and winning, its just a matter of going through the motions.
06:10:05 <Steven> until it gives me the victory screen.
06:12:22 <Mekkis> no, I mean that by the time you have 18 robots, you should have had science victory
06:26:13 <Steven> Domination only victory.
06:26:41 <Steven> if it was science victory i would have won about 100 or so turns ago. my science is kick ass.
06:28:48 <Avatar> played my first game with ulzef GMing today
06:33:14 <Mekkis> did he kill you?
06:33:22 <Avatar> I was playing Snickers, what do you think
06:33:26 <Mekkis> yes
06:33:29 <Avatar> lol you'd be wrong this time !
06:33:42 <Avatar> that's right, Snickers survived her fourth scenario after dying in the previous three
06:34:12 <Avatar> everyone really likes your work on the Snickers mini
06:34:48 <Mekkis> thank you
06:39:14 <Avatar> steven are you about
06:47:49 <Avatar> got my divine bond
06:47:55 <Avatar> I really didn't want to have to start thinking about how this works
06:50:46 <Brunius> Paladin Divine Bond?
06:50:50 <Avatar> yeah
06:50:58 <Avatar> how long does a divine bond last if activated on a weapon?
06:51:20 <Avatar> 1 minute per level
06:51:30 <Avatar> I guess a +1 keen greatsword for free isn't bad
06:52:36 <Mekkis> I wish it wasn't a standard action to activate
06:53:17 <Avatar> is that how you have a merciful weapon Brunius
06:53:22 <Brunius> Nope
06:53:27 <Brunius> I bought that with gold
06:53:28 <Avatar> do you ever activate your bond
06:53:34 <Brunius> I didn't that last game
06:53:37 <Brunius> I kept thinking there would be more
06:53:42 <Brunius> It's a standard action to activate, too
06:53:49 <Brunius> So you ideally want to do it before combat
06:54:31 <Avatar> it doesn't say the activation has to be spent in 1 minute increments
06:54:41 <Avatar> so you're basically measuring how long it's active in rounds
06:55:27 <Avatar> oh wait, you can't turn it off early unless you're ending it altogether?
06:55:34 <Brunius> don't think so
06:56:00 <Avatar> this ability seems quite overrated
06:56:56 <Brunius> oh, I can use it twice/day now
06:56:58 <Brunius> that's cool
07:02:04 <Avatar> nice
07:02:22 <Avatar> what do you use it with
07:02:24 <Avatar> what enhancement
07:03:54 <Avatar> I did not realise paladins can prepare from the entire paladin spell list
07:04:01 <Avatar> I thought I had to choose 2 per level or something
07:04:51 <Mekkis> I did not realise, Avatar, that you don't think a wizard player should be required to have read the text of the spells he's planning on casting.
07:06:07 <Avatar> what?
07:06:13 <Avatar> is this about the focuses
07:06:20 <Mekkis> yeah, the foci
07:06:21 <Avatar> most people don't think to look at spell components
07:07:09 <Avatar> it's safe to assume that "during prep" they bought the materials and foci they needed
07:07:19 <Avatar> even if the player forgot, the character wouldn't
07:09:23 <Steven> sup.
07:10:06 <Avatar> with 14 str and 18 cha, should I keep bumping cha or start bumping str?
07:10:18 <Steven> i take it no odd stats
07:10:26 <Avatar> 14 and 18 are even
07:10:42 <Avatar> 7 wisdom, but I'm not moving that
07:10:43 <Steven> level 4 or *?
07:10:47 <Steven> 8?
07:10:51 <Avatar> 4
07:10:55 <Avatar> and a belt
07:10:57 <Steven> Strength.
07:11:06 <Avatar> so start bumping str and keep bumping it
07:11:16 <Mekkis> http://r-eventide.deviantart.com/art/Comic-Baldur-s-Gate-19-195065899
07:11:20 <Steven> yeah, and then your level 12 throw into wisdom.
07:11:21 <Avatar> I am having some serious trouble hitting things
07:12:03 <Steven> well with 14str bab of 4, thats +6... it is kinda low.
07:12:22 <Steven> weapon focus gives another +1.
07:12:27 <Steven> might look at that.
07:12:29 <Avatar> no forget weapon focus
07:12:34 <Avatar> oh shit I get a feat!
07:12:47 <Steven> at 4th?
07:12:54 <Steven> archetype bonus?
07:13:51 <Avatar> no, at 5th
07:14:02 <Avatar> I never got around to assigning that ability score because I kept forgetting about it
07:14:10 <Avatar> and it made no difference either way until I got to 8th
07:15:04 <Avatar> if I take greater mercy, I'm healing 4d6 with lay on hands, which is 8/day
07:15:17 <Avatar> 48d6 of healing really isn't bad
07:15:39 <Avatar> how did this character become such a bad ass
07:15:51 <Mekkis> almost as much as a fully-charged wand of CLW!
07:15:57 <Avatar> ya
07:16:09 <Mekkis> considered Furious Focus?
07:16:15 <Avatar> I can burn uses of lay on hands to get more smite evils
07:16:25 <Avatar> I have never understood furious focus' appeal
07:16:50 <Mekkis> it's +2 to hit when your BAB is +4
07:17:01 <Avatar> on one attack
07:17:11 <Avatar> that is only marginally better than weapon focus
07:17:13 <Steven> if you find yourself hitting once and then having to move a lot it is a great feat.
07:17:17 <Avatar> probably not even
07:17:35 <Avatar> well I do that now, but I won't for long when I get my second attack in 3 games
07:17:41 <Steven> it is awesome if you go with a vital strike build.
07:17:49 <Avatar> nah forget vital strike
07:17:52 <Avatar> this is a lay on hands build
07:17:54 <Mekkis> I will concede that it doesn't necessarily scale
07:18:07 <Steven> are you multiclassing?
07:18:10 <Mekkis> I don't understand the appeal of vital strike
07:18:20 <Avatar> forget multiclassing
07:18:40 <Steven> then you should be getting a second attack next level if you are 5th level now.
07:18:47 <Avatar> yeah, 3 games away
07:19:17 <Steven> Mekkis i have a build that does 8d6+28 damage on vital strike.
07:19:23 <Steven> at level 7
07:19:31 <Steven> so there is power in the build.
07:19:45 <Steven> not build, vital strike.
07:19:48 <Mekkis> if you didn't use vital strike it would do 4d6+28?
07:20:22 <Steven> no, it would do 4d6+18
07:20:34 <Mekkis> how do you get the extra +10 damage?
07:20:38 <Steven> cheese.
07:20:46 <Mekkis> elabourate
07:20:46 <Avatar> I don't think i've actually used smite evil yet because I am always saving it for later Just In Case
07:23:11 <Steven> didnt you just say you could burn lay on hands for extra smites
07:23:46 <Avatar> yeah
07:24:00 <Avatar> I am always saving lay on hands for later Just In Case also
07:24:15 <Avatar> so that's why I think greater mercy might be a really good feat for me
07:24:29 <Avatar> maybe I will be a bit less scared
07:24:50 <Avatar> the whole immunity to fear thing is on the fritz
07:28:03 <Steven> spend them lay on hands man!
07:32:48 <Avatar> belt of str > belt of con ?
07:33:08 <Steven> how many heroic defiance can you prepare?
07:33:12 <Avatar> two
07:33:20 <Avatar> but I'll probably only prep one
07:33:31 <Avatar> I really like being able to cast grace
07:34:15 <Steven> alright, well prep 2 from now on. an always save uses of lay on hands equal to the amount of heros defiance you have... then you can freely spend the rest of your lay on hands and smites.
07:35:03 <Avatar> I don't know how I feel about all this
07:37:03 <Steven> so cats grace gives you +2 ac and +2 reflex saves. Smite evil gives you Cha to AC, Cha to hit and HD to damage vs target of smite.
07:37:24 <Avatar> the more I look at the inheritor's gauntlet, which was a big reason I wanted ISG, the less appealling it is
07:37:32 <Avatar> not cat's grace
07:37:36 <Avatar> !spell grace
07:38:21 <diebot> Avatar, GRACE abjuration ([]) cleric/oracle 2, paladin 1 1 swift action Range: personal you Comp: V Duration: see text Save: SR:Source: APG
07:38:21 <diebot> Until the end of your turn, your movement does not provoke attacks of opportunity.
07:38:29 <Steven> oh okay... so its not even as good as cats grace...
07:38:35 <Avatar> mate
07:38:37 <Avatar> it is good
07:38:46 <Avatar> if you get tripped around a bunch of enemies? no problem
07:38:50 <Avatar> get right the fuck back up
07:39:03 <Steven> oh its good for anyone who cant wear Heavy Armor.
07:39:12 <Avatar> what
07:39:25 <Avatar> no I can still get hit with my 20 AC
07:39:33 <Avatar> my full plate and 20 AC
07:42:26 <Steven> okay, grace does not protect you from AoOs from stading up. Standing up is a Move Equivalent action not movement.
07:42:42 <Avatar> fuck
07:42:55 <Avatar> how did I not see that before
07:44:24 <Steven> Grace only protects vs AoOs from moving around. I think hands down Hero's defiance is the better of the two spells. It allows you to have an oh shit button in case you are about to die.
07:45:15 <Steven> At the end of any day if you have more uses of lay on hands then you do hero's defiance they are worthless lay on hands.
07:46:00 <Steven> and likely could have been put to better use smiting people.
07:48:07 <Avatar> well it is the better of the two now that it doesn't work on standing up from prone
08:09:03 <Avatar> they really need to scrap the whole putting regular items on a chronicle sheet thing
08:09:18 <Avatar> that's not maintaining the illusion of looting for anyone
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09:20:32 <Mekkis> !item Helm of the Mammoth Lord?
09:20:40 <diebot> Mekkis, HELM OF THE MAMMOTH LORD [faint transmutation] CL:5 head 8500gp, 3lb
09:20:41 <diebot> This hide helm is set with plates of ivory carved with primitive runes, with a pair of tusks curving down on either side of the wearer's face for cheek guards. The tusks of the helm provide a gore attack dealing 1d6 points of damage for a Medium wearers (or 1d4 points of damage for Small wearers) and counts as a magic weapon for the purposes of
09:20:41 <diebot> overcoming damage reduction. The helm of the mammoth lord also protects the wearer from cold environments as the endure elements spell. Furthermore, it provides a +5 competence bonus to Handle Animal, Ride, and wild empathy checks with elephants, mammoths, mastodons, and other similar elephant-like creatures. On command, the wearer may use detect
09:20:41 <diebot> animals or plants, but can only detect elephant-like creatures. On command, the wearer may use speak with animals, but only to communicate with elephant-like creatures. Source: Ultimate Equipment
09:21:29 <Mekkis> !item circlet of persuasion
09:21:30 <diebot> Mekkis, CIRCLET OF PERSUASION [faint transmutation] CL:5 head 4500gp, 0lb
09:21:30 <diebot> This delicately engraved silver headband grants its wearer a +3 competence bonus on Charisma-based checks. Source: Ultimate Equipment
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10:05:10 <diebot> majmun, Sunce jedino
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11:59:43 <Rogue444> Hello?
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12:03:56 <Brunius> Hello?
12:04:28 <Mekkis> Is it me you're looking for?
16:05:14 <Steven> Sarah Conner?
17:27:07 <Steven> so what up people.
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21:40:56 <Zaetar> guess i'll be back on monday
21:41:48 <Zaetar> cya then o.o)/
21:46:45 <Brunius> He's gonna be back on monday at the same time when everyone is at work
21:46:48 <Brunius> Calling it now
21:48:32 <Steven> i did it mekkis. I finally found the last unit, it was hiding near the edges of the map. Germany Victory complete.
21:49:50 <Mekkis> nice
21:49:59 <Mekkis> Why not do the real thing?
21:50:06 <Mekkis> What is your steamname?
23:14:15 <Steven> I dont like playing against people. I dislike competitive games.
23:14:58 <Mekkis> Everyone's at work on Monday?
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23:23:17 <Avatar> games that run till 11am gg
23:23:36 <Avatar> steven: how do you do rewards when the timeslot runs out of time
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23:24:17 <Steven> back
23:25:43 <Avatar> steven: how do you do rewards when the timeslot runs out of time
23:27:08 <Steven> if the players are unable to get back together then they get the gold for the challenges they finished
23:27:25 <Steven> then i check to see if they completed the prestige conditions.
23:27:29 <Steven> and they get whatever they get
23:29:54 <Avatar> have you heard of anyone storyboarding the bits they missed and assuming they succeeded
23:32:03 <Steven> yeah, i've storyboarded an entire fight because it was 5 level 9s vs 12 morlocks in a 7-11 tier.
23:32:55 <Avatar> that's a bit different
23:33:58 <Steven> 2 Barbarians, a Gunslinger, a Negative energy Cleric, a Life Oracle.... waste of an encounter. I had the barbs each remove 1 round of rage, 1 bullet, and a channel from each cleric... fight done.
23:34:38 <Avatar> yeah but I'm talking about running out of time
23:34:47 <Avatar> it's a factor out of their control
23:42:44 <Avatar> who's around to help me work out some tough details on running blood under absalom
23:44:20 <Steven> i said how i would handle that stuff. I havent ever had a table run out of time and hand waved encounters so they wouldnt be penalized.
23:45:52 <Steven> BuA... I've played it once GM'd it twice. Every time we've GM'd it we've cut out the Ronin samurai guy cause its dumb as shit.
23:47:02 <Steven> also the monk guys at the end are so underpowered. hey im a monk and i can cast scorching ray... i really hope no one puts up resist energy fire.
23:47:27 <Avatar> yeah I can't work out the mechanics on getting gems in the first encounter
23:48:38 <Steven> oh man... we had mayhem during the last running of it.
23:48:51 <Steven> during the part
23:49:25 <Steven> someone cast mass enlarge person, enlarging 4 people who were all standing next to each other... the floor gave out... they fell in the water.
23:50:05 <Avatar> yeah how do players get the gems, beyond the initial catch
23:50:17 <Avatar> as far as I can tell the book doesn't actually explain it
23:50:28 <Steven> I called over the event coordinator and i was like they just destroyed the floor in a 20x20 area right here.
23:50:46 <Steven> the head GM went around and told all the other tables that the floor collapsed.
23:50:59 <Avatar> how does enlarge person destroy a floor
23:51:12 <Avatar> none of it is unstable
23:51:13 <Steven> that entire building is over water.
23:51:31 <Avatar> yeah but it's a solid wood ground, large creatures aren't going to break it
23:51:37 <Steven> if you enlarge 4 people. Each of their weight goes up by 8 fold.
23:52:00 <Steven> 200lb barbarian goes to 1600lbs
23:52:21 <Avatar> I have never heard of that happening
23:52:23 <Steven> if you have two of them standing right next to each other... that is a lot of weight.
23:52:35 <Avatar> I guess it makes some sense
23:52:48 <Steven> yeah and they did it to 4 people.
23:52:58 <Avatar> do you know how players pick up gems
23:53:05 <Steven> anyways, as to your question
23:53:06 <Avatar> it just says a perception check to find one
23:53:17 <Steven> its however the hell the players want to justify grabbing them.
23:53:40 <Steven> stealing from someone else who got one might be a slight of hand check
23:53:51 <Avatar> but they don't actually appear on the map do they
23:53:53 <Steven> or a barbarian might use intimidate to scare someone into giving him one.
23:54:10 <Steven> not that im aware.
23:55:20 <Avatar> so say they "see" one with that perception check, what does a success mean
23:55:21 <Steven> my group collapsed the floor and then spent the next two hours sifting through the harbor silt.
23:55:38 <Steven> it means they found one
23:55:51 <Avatar> and then they have to retrieve it with a random gesture?
23:55:59 <Steven> i made it 2 skill checks dc 10+APL
23:57:21 <Avatar> did you make that up?
23:59:45 <Steven> yeah the DC wasnt listed.
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