// #d&d — 2015-01-21
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00:57:18 <steven> yo
00:59:43 <steven> hows it goin?
01:14:52 <Avatar> yo
01:19:47 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lgyc?Writing-a-New-Entry-for-Factions
01:50:03 <Steven> so annoying when people sign in with my name.
01:50:40 <Steven> Also... i love it when people try to tell me, incorrectly i might add, how bane works.
01:50:49 <Steven> I correct them, and they try to argue.
01:52:39 <Steven> "I can bane vs a target without knowing what type of creature it is!"
01:55:04 <Steven> 23 levels of Inquisitors under my belt on PFS Characters.
02:37:29 <Mekkis> meh
02:37:47 <Avatar> I'm just the messenger
02:37:58 <Mekkis> I know
02:38:02 <Brunius> I seem to remember instructions to shoot the messenger
02:38:08 <Mekkis> still, meh
02:38:08 <Avatar> you just watch yourself
02:38:10 <Mekkis> oh yeah
02:39:35 <Mekkis> To Xeron, loyal servant of his majesty Lucifer
02:39:35 <Mekkis> Kreegan, killer of his king's enemies:
02:39:35 <Mekkis> Upon receiving this letter, kill the messenger. No one is to
02:39:35 <Mekkis> learn of its contents. Should its information fall into the hands
02:39:35 <Mekkis> of an enemy, our kingdom of Eeofol may find itself the victim of a
02:39:36 <Mekkis> greater nation's aggression.
02:41:42 <Avatar> what's that from
03:27:48 <Mekkis> What about a VC insisting that Haste gives +1 to all saves?
03:29:28 <s_gmusic> wut.
03:29:35 <s_gmusic> why/how would it do that?
03:30:03 <s_gmusic> your metabolism increases boosting your fort saves and you think faster increasing your will saves?
03:30:29 <Mekkis> my VC did insist on it.
03:32:03 <s_gmusic> !spell haste
03:32:08 <diebot> s_gmusic, HASTE transmutation ([]) alchemist 3, bard 3, magus 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, summoner 2, bloodrager 3 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature/level, no two of which can be more than 30 ft. apart Comp: V, S, M (a shaving of licorice root) Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes
03:32:08 <diebot> (harmless)Source: PFRPG Core
03:32:08 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/haste.html
03:32:41 <s_gmusic> :\
03:34:13 <s_gmusic> okay, well there goes the "it could be the mythic version" idea.
04:15:43 <steven> eeofol is might and magic.
04:16:11 <steven> im bored.
04:16:28 <steven> worse yet, im bored and dont have a headache
04:18:02 <steven> usually i have a headache so i dont wanna actually do anything at all
04:23:21 <steven> it may be time to go play civilization
04:23:34 <steven> and by may, i mean is.
04:47:18 <Brunius> !spell blessing of haste
04:47:20 <diebot> Brunius, BLESSING OF FERVOR transmutation ([]) cleric/oracle 4 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature/level, no two of which can be more than 30 ft. apart Comp: V, S, DF Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: APG
04:47:20 <diebot> With this blessing, you call your allies to move forth and empower them to conquer and become victorious. Each round for the duration of this spell, each of your allies can choose one of the following bonuses for that round at the beginning of its turn (their choice). • Increase its speed by 30 feet. • Stand up as a swift action without
04:47:20 <diebot> provoking an attack of opportunity. • Make one extra attack as part of a full attack action, using its highest base attack bonus. • Gain a +2 bonus on attack rolls and a +2 dodge bonus to AC and Reflex saves. •Cast a single spell of 2nd level or lower as if it were an enlarged, extended, silent, or still spell. These effects are not
04:47:20 <diebot> cumulative with similar effects, such as those provided by haste or a speed weapon, nor do they actually grant an extra action, so you can't use it to cast a second spell or otherwise take an extra action in the round. Blessing of fervor does not stack with haste.
05:12:50 <Steven> suuuuuuuuup
05:12:56 <Steven> im back. had to run over to my dads house
05:15:15 <Steven> so hows it goin guys/girls
05:52:01 <steven> Its like the World Wars all over again. I'm german and just destroying france. England Russia and America are all about to declare war on me. lol
05:53:08 <Mekkis> alright. Coming up with some character backgrounds
05:54:27 <Steven> i've really enjoyed the Character creation thing in Ultimate Campaign.
05:55:24 <Mekkis> So I'm looking at an ex-lion blade who was 'burned' by machenations involving a chelish diabolist, who is then blackmailing him into working for the Pathfinder Society
05:55:45 <Mekkis> What would a reasonable class be?
05:57:48 <Mekkis> Thinking... ranger, swashbuckler, paladin, maybe rogue?
05:57:55 <Mekkis> gunslinger even?
06:04:44 <Steven> infiltrator inquisitor?
06:07:10 <Mekkis> possibly
06:07:37 <Mekkis> Is it possible to get access to explosives in PFS without being a gunslinger?
06:10:44 <Steven> iunno
06:10:55 <Steven> i think its just an alchemical item
06:14:18 <Mekkis> it is?
06:14:21 <Mekkis> what source?
06:32:48 <steven> doop be bob
06:37:44 <Steven> iunno
06:37:59 <Steven> i think it came out in ultimate combat
06:41:33 <Mekkis> Seems like black powder's the only explosive in pathfinder
06:44:16 <Steven> why do you need explosives when you have people who can cast fireballs?
06:44:45 <Mekkis> to achieve what fireballs aren't very good at achieving
06:45:39 <Steven> my point is that magic replaces technology on golarion.
06:48:07 <Mekkis> Numeria.
06:48:58 <Mekkis> But really, my point is that magic is actually really bad at doing one thing that explosives are really good at doing: Converting a large amount of ore-bearing rock into a similar amount of ore-bearing rubble.
06:49:53 <Steven> except there are spells that can do that... sure fireballs arent great at it.
06:50:07 <Mekkis> pray tell which spells
06:51:19 <Steven> im not going to go search through all the spells in pfs to find you examples.
06:51:53 <Mekkis> I've looked and I honestly can't find anything below sixth level
06:52:00 <Steven> the notible exceptions to the rule that magic replaces technology on golarion are numeria which had that forced upon them and alkenstar.
06:54:56 <Steven> i imagine stone shape would be effective, thats what 3rd cleric/druid 4th wizard?
06:55:24 <Mekkis> not really. It doesn't affect much area at all.
06:55:59 <Mekkis> much volume at all...
06:57:48 <Steven> it doesnt have to. you stone shape lines of stone seperating pieces of stone from each other 15 cubic(lowest level) feet of stone is quite a bit of stone really.
06:59:54 <Mekkis> What about using Lightning Bolt to start the Birkeland–Eyde process, to make ammonium nitrate. To make ANFO.
07:00:00 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> How many classes on 1 character is too many?
07:00:21 <Steven> if your gm allows it
07:00:47 <Mekkis> if your GM allows using stone shape to create a cheese-grater effect....
07:01:24 <Steven> I let players get away with a decent amount
07:01:51 <Steven> You know really i let players get away with whatever they want so long as they are nice about asking it.
07:03:13 <Mekkis> actually...
07:04:26 <Mekkis> the Birkeland–Eyde process produces nitric acid. This can be combined with sulphuric acid to produce C3H5N3O9
07:04:26 <Steven> I have my stricter days, but that how i try to run my table.
07:04:49 <Steven> thats probably going to go over the heads of most people mekkis.
07:05:25 <Mekkis> nitroglycerine
07:05:53 <Steven> i know what that is, im a geologist.
07:06:02 <Steven> im pretty good on checmicals
07:06:57 <Steven> im saying if you have to explain to people how the chemicals interact with each other you're probably going to get that dead stare and get told no
07:07:14 <Mekkis> fair enough
07:07:42 <Steven> one of the biggest complaints i've heard so far this season is the inclusion of technology in peoples fantasy
07:07:48 <Mekkis> Trying to work out ways to actually blast out a door - or a building.
07:09:28 <Steven> telekenesis? Earthquake? Investigator talent that lets you use kn engineering in place of a str check.
07:09:39 <Mekkis> oh?
07:09:46 <Steven> yeah.
07:09:51 <Mekkis> such a talent exists?!
07:09:55 <Steven> yup.
07:10:20 <Steven> i want to call it applied engineering.
07:10:40 <Mekkis> wow
07:10:46 <Mekkis> you're right
07:10:48 <Steven> yeah it is really cool
07:11:45 <Steven> I got a 48 on a kn engineering to break a stone wall on a castle in my buddies homebrew
07:11:55 <Steven> nat 20!
07:12:44 <Steven> it was fantastic
07:13:09 <Steven> So i took a brick out of a wall and the whole thing collapsed
07:13:26 <Mekkis> well. Going to have to look at taking at least one level in Investigator
07:13:31 <Steven> and we didnt have to siege the fort, we moved right into the encounters.
07:13:55 <Steven> it requires 3 levels to get an investigator talent
07:14:30 <Mekkis> four levels then
07:16:48 <Steven> 2nd level extracts pretty good
07:17:31 <Steven> brb gotta take the dogs out
07:24:48 <Mekkis> Psychic Searcher oracle with the Extra Investigator Talent feat
07:30:49 <Steven> sure
07:35:00 <Mekkis> I would be able to fit all the maps (except for the flipmats) on one A0 sheet, and cut them up when the arrive
07:35:03 <Mekkis> sure
07:35:38 <Avatar> and where are you getting this done that it requires postage
07:37:08 <Mekkis> Melbourne
07:38:17 <Avatar> melbourne is a big place
07:39:03 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/DSC_0608.JPG
07:39:18 <Mekkis> I know. And I don't know where in Melbourne they're doing it.
07:40:07 <Mekkis> That's Mantis' Prey on canvas - it's a few years old now.
07:43:01 <Mekkis> !spell Greater Make Whole
07:43:04 <Mekkis> 5
07:43:08 <diebot> Mekkis, MAKE WHOLE transmutation ([]) cleric/oracle 2, sorcerer/wizard 2 10 minutes Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one object of up to 10 cu. ft./level or one construct creature of any size Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates (harmless, object) SR:yes (harmless, object)Source: PFRPG Core
07:43:08 <diebot> This spell functions as mending, except that it repairs 1d6 points of damage per level when cast on an object or construct creature (maximum 5d6). Make whole can fix destroyed magic items (at 0 hit points or less), and restores the magic properties of the item if your caster level is at least twice that of the item. Items with charges (such as
07:43:09 <diebot> wands) and single-use items (such as potions and scrolls) cannot be repaired in this way. When make whole is used on a construct creature, the spell bypasses any immunity to magic as if the spell did not allow spell resistance.
07:43:18 <Mekkis> !spell Make Whole, greater
07:43:19 <diebot> Mekkis, MAKE WHOLE, GREATER transmutation ([]) cleric/oracle 4, sorcerer/wizard 4 1 standard action Range: 10 ft. one object of up to 5 lb./level Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates (harmless, object) SR:yes (harmless, object)Source: Technology Guide
07:43:19 <diebot> This spell repairs 1d6 points of damage plus 1 point per level when cast on a construct creature (maximum 10d6+10). Greater make whole can fix destroyed magic items or technological items (items at 0 hit points or fewer), and restores the magic properties of the item if your caster level at least equal to that of the item. This spell otherwise
07:43:20 <diebot> functions as make whole.
07:44:21 <Avatar> do you have a zoomed out version of that
07:44:29 <Avatar> oh you've folded it over
07:44:52 <Mekkis> Zoomed out?
07:44:57 <Avatar> never mind
07:45:10 <Mekkis> That map's over a metre long, and 900mm wide
07:45:15 <Avatar> well it looks good but not very helpful if I don't know where I could get it done on canvas
07:45:47 <Mekkis> I don't know where it's done. I send the guy an email, transfer him money, and he mails it to me.
07:46:23 <Avatar> SOUNDS SHIFTY
07:46:44 <Avatar> is this the same guy you were talking about the other day
07:46:50 <Mekkis> yeah
07:47:47 <Mekkis> how much does Officeworks charge (given that what I've seen them output, they're good at fucking up the scale...)
07:48:11 <Avatar> http://www.topsignage.com.au/
07:48:21 <Avatar> can't remember
07:48:37 <Avatar> they fucked up the scale when I ran library of the lion, but it was clear they didn't know what they were doing
07:48:49 <Mekkis> It's not actually topsignage...
07:48:50 <Avatar> I didn't really know what I was doing either
07:49:12 <Avatar> topsignage is the website on that ebay page
07:50:04 <Mekkis> I've just forwarded you the email chain
07:52:31 <Avatar> I haven't thought this through
07:52:36 <Avatar> your 4 maps cost $68
07:53:01 <Mekkis> actually $65
07:53:10 <Avatar> that is a lot for 4 maps
07:53:25 <Mekkis> $12 per A0 map
07:53:28 <Mekkis> plus postage
07:53:30 <Avatar> flip-mats seem to be better value than this
07:53:37 <Mekkis> I daresay postage over there would be cheaper.
07:53:52 <Mekkis> I never said they weren't
07:54:07 <Avatar> I like how he says "all inclusive no more to pay"
07:54:28 <Mekkis> I get the canvas prints for scenarios that I intend to run several times - or scenarios that are epic enough to justify it.
07:54:39 <Mekkis> like Mantis' Prey
07:54:47 <Avatar> yeah fair go
07:54:52 <Avatar> I'll check up on the prices for paper
07:55:48 <Mekkis> Good to know that Paizo are admitting that the faction changes in season 3, season 5 and season 6 have issues.
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09:21:27 <Mekkis> IDENTIFY
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09:32:29 <steven> this game is taking forever.... i shouldnt have clicked the complete destruction button.
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11:37:45 <mib_3ywq7m> how to play game?
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14:13:30 <Avatar> how to play, lol?
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15:16:34 <Avatar> why would you want to take a whole level in a class just to be able to blast out a door?
15:24:02 <ThrashingDragon> Hola
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15:37:49 <Avatar> man I'm going to forget to use that january coupon code, I know it
15:45:57 <Mekkis> Character concept that involves blasting out doors - and walls
15:48:23 <Avatar> you can't knock down a wall with a strength check
15:48:26 <Avatar> what is this wall made out of, paper
15:50:54 <Avatar> hi anyone here
15:50:56 <Avatar> ok bye
15:57:49 <Mekkis> you can actually.
15:58:19 <Mekkis> Hewn stone (3 ft. thick) has a break DC of 50.
15:58:32 <Mekkis> with a 50 strength check, you CAN break down a wall
15:59:57 <Avatar> 50
16:00:02 <Mekkis> 50.
16:00:10 <Avatar> 1d20 + ? = 50
16:00:28 <Avatar> let's say I have a 22 str, that's a +6
16:00:40 <Avatar> so if I roll a nat 20, I will get about half of 50
16:00:54 <Avatar> that's assuming the wall is 3ft thick, which it never is
16:01:01 <Avatar> 3ft
16:01:14 <Mekkis> Investigator. Applied engineering. Lets you use Knowledge (engineering) instead of str
16:01:38 <Avatar> let's assume 20 ranks in kn. engineering
16:01:43 <Avatar> so that puts me up to about DC 40
16:01:50 <Avatar> 20 total, not 20 ranks
16:02:26 <Avatar> this is still assuming a 3ft wall that doesn't exist
16:06:21 <Mekkis> Ancestral Communion gives +6 insight bonus, Page-Bound Epiphany gives +10 circumstance bonus, Heightened Awareness gives +2 competence bonus, masterwork tool gives +2 circumstance bonus. We're at +20. 7 ranks, 20 int already has us at +32...
16:06:21 <Avatar> gotta run
16:06:34 <Mekkis> Lore master lets you take 20.
16:06:41 <Avatar> yeah ok get a 5ft wall's DC now
18:00:10 <Avatar> die, bot
20:07:06 <Steven> sup im back.
20:14:55 <Mekkis> no
20:23:28 <Avatar> :D
20:24:18 <Mekkis> Wow. The Pooka is pretty good
20:24:56 <Mekkis> Would you consider it a Jerk Move to prevent a PC casting a Create Pit spell if they don't have a 10gp miniature shovel on their ITS/Character sheet
20:25:08 <Avatar> yes
20:25:18 <Avatar> nobody ever has a 10gp miniature shovel on their sheet, unless they are you
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20:52:13 <Avatar> what kind of accent do you do for amara li
20:52:36 <Mekkis> an asian one
20:52:45 <Avatar> how strong
20:52:47 <Mekkis> stereotypical
20:53:03 <Avatar> give me a fictional character you'd try to mimic
20:53:32 <Mekkis> I don't. I just make the 'r's and the 'l's very simirar
20:54:27 <Mekkis> and I deliberately stuff around with my emphasis on syllables
20:54:46 <Avatar> I'm not sure that paints her in a terribly good light
20:55:06 <Avatar> I mean I didn't like the lantern lodge, but still
20:55:36 <Avatar> lucy liu doesn't exactly cut it
21:02:01 <Avatar> the only two I can think of are lucy and that chick from stargate universe/marvel agents of shield
21:02:49 <Mekkis> darkwhite does it that way
21:03:51 <Avatar> no I want her to be more sophisticated
21:05:13 <Mekkis> In that case, don't make push the asian-style 'l' that far, speak softly and clearly, take frequent pauses before long words.
21:35:42 <Mekkis> And be very polite
21:40:14 <Avatar> demeanour isn't the problem, it's just accent
21:51:07 <Avatar> how do you learn about how a specific curse works
22:17:59 <Mekkis> How are you reacting to Brock's ruling regarding character sheets?
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23:20:41 <Steven> yo
23:24:03 <Mekkis> yo
23:35:38 <Mekkis> How is your community dealing with the requirement for paper, Steven?
23:42:31 <Steven> some people are upset, others haven't had any problem at all.
23:50:59 <Spaceshot_XperiaZ> So far, the confirmation isn't going to be played, or it's going to be filled with Friday rockups
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