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01:04 <Steven1> I dont rule it as mind affecting
02:55 <Mekkis> I imagined that
03:09 <Steven1> alright, prepped for tomorrow.
04:52 <Mekkis> I'm trying to work out what would happen in Act 7 of Eot10 if the PCs retreat, rest, and try again.
05:21 <Mekkis> I would imagine that the NPCs would take measures to deal with them...?
10:23 <Steven1> have fun.
11:25 <Steven1> bad things happen... time doesnt stop moving.
13:25 <Mekkis> yeah
13:47 <Mekkis> so you think they should arrive at Act 8 after It Has Happened?
14:19 <Steven1> i tend to find anymore then 3 classes makes things weird
14:58 <Steven1> yes.
15:25 <Mekkis> shit man. Okay...
18:38 <Mekkis> so what? They arrive in the courtyard to find it full of a crowd of peasants trying to break down the door to the keep under the direction of the judge?
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51:32 <Mekkis> I'm trying to see the downside to multiclassing in 5e
00:28 <Mekkis> (FYI, this isn't hypothetical)
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52:11 <Brunius> Mekkis, sure
57:40 <Avatar> it's just a dice script
57:45 <Avatar> you can google one I think
07:33 <s_gmusic> oh? okay. 
53:41 <Steven1> depending on how long they rest they find the courtyard with just a few people in it gathering bodies and heads for burial.
55:06 <Coopdawg> Hello?
12:48 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, keep hassling me and I'll eventually get around to putting it up on github
13:01 <Mekkis> it's on my things to do
13:06 <s_gmusic> heh
13:38 <Mekkis> currently it's got a bunch of Mekkis-specific code in it: especially the !spell command
14:24 <Mekkis> you know
14:28 <Mekkis> !spell sonic form
14:52 <diebot> Mekkis, SONIC FORM transmutation (polymorph[sonic]) alchemist 6, bard 6, sorcerer/wizard 6 1 standard action Range: gravestone or a sacred shrine) Range personal you Comp: V, S, M (a pinch of dust gathered from a Duration: 1 round/level Save:  SR:Source: Advanced Class Guide
14:52 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/sonic_form.html
15:33 <Mekkis> (it makes some assumptions about where the webserver is)
16:43 <s_gmusic> makes sense
17:35 <Mekkis> so I'll probably upload what I have, then make some pull requests to make it more generic later
17:37 <s_gmusic> it's for a warmachine channel, so they just need dice. a couple people just linked some google searches for dice scripts, but it turns out the person doesn't even know how to set up a bot
17:51 <Mekkis> Want me to just shove diebot in there?
18:08 <Mekkis> what's the server/channel?
19:16 <s_gmusic> it's on rizon.net #warmahordes
19:32 <s_gmusic> it's a small, but steady channel, so hopefully it doesn't mess anything up for you.
24:23 <s_gmusic> schweet! thanks, mekkis.
24:42 <Mekkis> good that diebot can connect. I can't :P
25:14 <s_gmusic> really? odd. diebot connected and works fine.
25:29 <Mekkis> ah, I was trying to connect to rizonnet.org
25:34 <s_gmusic> heh.
25:48 <Avatar> s_gmusic: he's been saying that for years
34:59 <Mekkis> yeah, but people aren't hassling me enough
36:47 <s_gmusic> also, What you ended up doing was easier than sorting out the code and putting it on github, so you have that going for you.
40:52 <Mekkis> true, but probably less sustainable
41:05 <Mekkis> you need to hassle me every time it goes down
44:38 <Mekkis> What do you think, Avatar 
46:09 <Avatar> so after taking a break from pathfinder, it's dawned on me there is some really toxic crap on the messageboards
47:05 <Steven1> i had to run the blackrose connection tonight cold(ish)
48:26 <Steven1> well... i didnt have to but that is what everyone signed up for.
48:32 <Avatar> I don't know what act 7 is
49:23 <Steven1> and they had no GM.
56:26 <Mekkis> pm
01:57 <Mekkis> how did it go?
02:18 <Mekkis> I played it with someone running it cold, and was disappointed.
02:19 <Steven1> le sigh....
02:52 <Steven1> They were very ill prepared to play that scenario because instead of bringing their super kn based characters they brought their combat based characters.
03:11 <Steven1> and then they struggled.
04:27 <Steven1> but still managed to get it done under the time threshold because they got lesser restoration cast on them every day and just pulled triple research shifts.
04:48 <Steven1> took them 3 days to do the investigation even without being able to make the checks worth shit.
05:31 <Steven1> with this GM slot it finishes out my Faction Card on my Dark Archive Character.
06:09 <Steven1> except of course convincing someone to join the DA because nobody is ever willing to switch factions
10:34 <Steven1> Free scroll every mission
11:57 <Steven1> which teir did you play in mekkis?
14:47 <Steven1> my new favorite creature.  Devil Mnemor.
15:34 <Steven1> I'll take a full attack... 2 claws w/ PA +9 for 1d6+4, Probocis +10 Touch(Memory Siphon)
17:08 <Steven1> memory siphon hits somebody with Memory Lapse no save.
17:43 <Steven1> AH SHIT DAVE HE SPOTTED US... Touch Attack... no he didnt.
25:27 <Steven1> my favorite part of the scenario was the influencing of the dimension that you go to.  I never let them fail the checks, but if they didnt get high enough it didnt come out the way they wanted.
27:31 <Steven1> like one of them wished for a specific type of weapon that would have been a +2 weapon, so DC14 i think.  They rolled a 4, so instead of a +2 weapon sized for them it was a Tiny Sized weapon.
30:24 Steven1 is now known as Steven
42:35 <Avatar> hello? you have one minute to answer
54:34 <Steven> mesaged you mekkis
55:05 <Steven> messaged^
03:47 <Brunius> bloody steve
30:53 <Mekkis> Steven1, have you looked at 5e?
32:14 <Mekkis> (Or Avatar...)
57:25 <Mekkis> Steven1, Should I really run it that way?
14:47 <Mekkis> what caused the revelation?
20:23 <Brunius> `op
25:10 <Mekkis> hey Brunius!
25:18 <Brunius> hey Mekk
30:12 <Mekkis> how have things been?
30:30 <Mekkis> Any plans on travel around December-January?
34:44 <Brunius> Just got back from Canberra (helping grandparents move), I'll be back up there from the 14th-20th, then off cruising the tropics until the 3rd of January
34:57 <Mekkis> thanks Steven 
37:01 <Mekkis> What?
37:13 <Mekkis> You're in Canberra 14th to 20th of December?
37:29 <Brunius> Yes
37:30 <Mekkis> Why aren't we meeting up?
37:36 <Brunius> Because I'm slack
37:39 <Mekkis> Also, what tropics?
37:45 <Mekkis> Brisbane perchance?
38:05 <Brunius> Off on a cruise ship, I'm not sure exactly which ports it's hitting
38:12 <Brunius> Just a vague idea that they're probably tropical
38:16 <Mekkis> ah, fair enough
38:19 <Avatar> not really
38:31 <Avatar> I think I glanced at it ages ago
38:36 <Mekkis> You're not heading from Canberra to Melbourne on the 20th are you?
40:02 <Brunius> No, probably a greyhound to sydney
40:14 <Brunius> I know it's to sydney, don't know if we've decided on how to get there yet
42:30 <Mekkis> I am
42:59 <Mekkis> So, are you free any time that you're here?
43:00 <Avatar> there was a thread a player made where his GM forced him to multiclass into a shitty build and he wanted advice on how to make it a less shitty build
43:20 <Mekkis> what?
43:29 <Avatar> some people just gave him build advice, other people were just saying the GM is a dick, tell him to f off
44:13 <Avatar> I asked for more of an explanation of why the GM said that, and I was getting told that that's not in question, the player just wants build advice and it's not for us to question it
44:37 <Brunius> Probably, it's far enough away that I don't think we've got anything specific planned
44:39 <Avatar> that went back and forth for a bit, and then liz courts acted as moderator and basically agreed, he just wants build advice, any other posts are unhelpful
44:45 <Mekkis> I dislike it when players refer to their characters as 'builds'
44:59 <Avatar> this was just about the build
45:07 <Mekkis> I know
10:42 <Mekkis> pity you're not here on the 13th.
19:27 <Avatar> what's going on brunius
19:31 <Avatar> you don't call you don't write
21:38 <Brunius> I moved
21:45 <Mekkis> What? where to?
21:55 <Mekkis> All this News!
22:02 <Brunius> then Win7 was like "Nah not gonna work" and in the switch to Win10 I stopped starting IRC regularly
22:14 <Brunius> Just about 20minutes east
22:36 <Mekkis> What are you doing, not writing your IRC client?
22:45 <Brunius> pmuch
23:18 <Brunius> At some point in that I started using linux for my coding and discovered just how dumb windows is
23:44 <Mekkis> So, why aren't you running linux then?
24:05 <Brunius> I'm using it on my laptop, but my desktop is mainly for gaming, which for the moment means mostly Windows
24:29 <Mekkis> and your IRC isn't on your laptop?
24:38 <Mekkis> you in second or third year?
24:45 <Brunius> just finished first
24:55 <Mekkis> ah, cool
25:00 <Mekkis> Got work experience lined up?
25:21 <Brunius> Not yet, I'm planning on slotting that in between either second and third year or third and fourth
37:49 <Mekkis> How about Thursday 17th?
37:57 <Mekkis> evening
53:50 <Relaxer> Thanksgiving this week...
22:02 <Relaxer> Well, he did come in looking for advice on his character.
22:24 <Relaxer> Other questions are aside the point.
23:27 <Relaxer> If it was asked in here i would demand to know more information on what happened, but then again this is a much different culture then the paizo boards.
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16:39 Steven is now known as steven
18:01 steven is now known as Steven1
34:25 <Steven1> yeah, its on the bookshelf with the pathfinder stuff.
17:07 <Steven> mesaged you mekkis
17:38 <Steven> messaged^
15:35 <Avatar> right, the culture on paizo boards is toxic if they think a GM trying to make a player do that without explanation is okay 
26:04 <Relaxer> If a player did something in one of my games that drastically impacted his chracter i might force him to take a class.
27:04 <Relaxer> It would haave to be pretty insane though.
29:56 <Avatar> that's fine, but you have an explanation for it
30:13 <Avatar> these guys are saying don't ask him for an explanation, only offer build ideas and nothing else
30:38 <Avatar> like get some humanity people
39:45 Topic for #d&d is: AEDT (UTC+11:00) || Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au || https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/pathfinder-society-online-collective
39:45 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Nov 30 19:02:39 2015
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42:12 <Avatar> not here
44:05 <Avatar> m8
57:30 <Mekkis> thanks Steven 
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16:24 <Mekkis> Does Tonya do anything on the boards?
19:27 <Avatar> I think she's more involved than mike
23:57 <Avatar> what's most important is that she doesn't seem to be as cynical as mike
24:32 <Relaxer> give her a year.
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35:16 <Avatar> ha
10:15 <bardocker> hi
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24:32 <Steven1> i had to run the blackrose connection tonight cold(ish)
25:53 <Steven1> well... i didnt have to but that is what everyone signed up for.
26:49 <Steven1> and they had no GM.
28:12 <Relaxer> I have decided on the next character i am going to make.
28:26 <Relaxer> for any game i get invited to.
29:25 <Relaxer> Halfling Hunter with a Rhino Animal companion that will always be refered to as Tank Dog.
39:22 <Mekkis> how did it go?
39:44 <Mekkis> I played it with someone running it cold, and was disappointed.
39:48 <Steven1> le sigh....
40:18 <Steven1> They were very ill prepared to play that scenario because instead of bringing their super kn based characters they brought their combat based characters.
40:33 <Avatar> 27510-378
44:21 <Relaxer> i dont make new characters for pfs.  It will be a year before there are enoughs scenarios to warrent another character
58:01 <Avatar> you make a lot of characters
03:05 <Relaxer> I get asked to make characters for stuff.
04:27 <Relaxer> i have 30 characters in pfs, and about 15 in APs.
06:17 <Relaxer> I just built the character for the next ap i am going to play in, whatever it is.
30:37 <Relaxer> Gonna rock me some turkey this thursday.
31:01 <Relaxer> and get some cactus cooler
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49:46 <Avatar> mate I've heard it all before
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25:01 <Relaxer> I doubt it.  There are a lot of words and combinations of those words... You've not been alive long enough to heard it all before.
32:00 <Avatar> I've heard it all before
41:53 <Steven1> yo mekkis, do you know a fast way to strip a password from a .rar
43:44 <Mekkis> depends
43:47 <Mekkis> do you know the password?
47:09 <Steven1> I remember part of it.
48:22 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Brunius
39:55 <Relaxer> I doubt it.  There are a lot of words and combinations of those words... You've not been alive long enough to heard it all before.
49:52 <Relaxer> if you want avatar, i will make a character for you.
54:19 <Relaxer> how about a Paladin Psychic Dragon Disciple?
01:30 <Avatar> no mate I don't need a character
01:35 <Avatar> I am sure you would make one for me
01:36 <Avatar> at least one
04:47 <Mekkis> I'm looking at trying some Extreme Multiclassing
05:24 <Mekkis> Steven1, unlike zip, Rar uses pretty good encryption.
05:36 <Mekkis> !hp 13d6m3
05:37 <diebot> Mekkis, 93
05:44 <Steven1> yeah i know... it real annoying.
06:16 <Mekkis> you could attempt something like scripting unrar to attempt a list of password
06:20 <Mekkis> but it's not easy
07:11 <Mekkis> Hmmm... My sorcerer just hit 13th level. Suggestions for a feat?
08:41 <s_gmusic> what's needed to make a diebot? got a friend in another channel that wants to set one up.
15:55 <Relaxer> It would be an awesome character.
21:39 <Steven1> i think im just going to buckledown and respend the money to get this document sent to me.
22:07 <Steven1> goodbye 30 bucks.
22:28 <Mekkis> ?
22:35 <Mekkis> what document?
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23:15 <Mekkis> I think I played high tier
23:34 <Mekkis> I used my thing to cast Holy Sword :)
24:13 <Steven1> It has to do with my certification, I passworded it because people got onto my computer at the shop and were dickin around one day bout a year and a half back.
24:43 <Mekkis> ah.
25:48 <Mekkis> What's the point of Shadow Step? Isn't it just a Bad Version of Dimension Door?
28:41 <Mekkis> looks like I'll take Antithetical Constraint. It sounds fun
28:58 <Steven1> its an illusion spell not a conjuration spell.
29:09 <Steven1> other then that its the same thing.
29:44 <Mekkis> and you can't take your friends along, and it requires somatic components
30:30 <Mekkis> except that I need to take dimensional anchor :(
40:07 <Mekkis> !item staff of the master
40:08 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF THE MASTER [moderate necromancy] CL:8 none 30000gp, 5lb
40:09 <diebot> Often given as gifts to apprentices upon reaching the rank of master, these staves come in eight different varieties, one for each school of magic. This particular staff is for the school of necromancy. Aside from acting as a +1/+1 quarterstaff, this staff allows use of the following spells: • Ray of enfeeblement (1 charge) • Spectral hand (1
40:09 <diebot> charge) • Vampiric touch (2 charges) In addition, this staff can be used to cast spells using any metamagic feats known by the wielder without increasing the spell's level. This consumes a number of charges equal to the number of spell levels increased by the feat. No more than one feat can be applied to a spell cast by the wielder in this way.
40:09 <diebot> Using the staff for this purpose does not increase the casting time of the spell. Source: Ultimate Equipment
40:34 <Mekkis> hmm
40:39 <Mekkis> Quickened Dominate Person sounds fun
45:54 <Steven1> meh.
46:12 <Mekkis> main issue with Dominate Person is its casting time
46:47 <Steven1> my main issue with dominate spells is that it usually completely ruins the fun for one person.
48:35 <Mekkis> I'm talking as a PC, not as an NPC
50:01 <Steven1> my list is pretty much no dominate stuff and no confusions stuff.
50:15 <Steven1> other then that i pretty much bbuild whatever.
52:15 <Steven1> but every time as a GM i've dominated somebody, the table fun just nosedives.
52:56 <Mekkis> would you fault a GM who rules that all dazing effects are mind-affecting?
53:37 <Steven1> as a player i've used control undead... and then i dick around with my actual character and play my undead instead of my actual character.
53:57 <Steven1> but again, it was pretty boring.
54:22 <Steven1> daze does not list that it is a mind affecting condition.
55:10 <Steven1> dazed just says the creature is unable to act normally.
55:27 <Mekkis> Would you fault a GM who ruled otherwise?
56:31 <Steven1> i'd inform them of the condition and that Raw it is not a mind affecting condition.  Then I'd continue on with my day.
56:55 <Mekkis> fair enough
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