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34:26 <Avatar> this stupid map is 48 inches by 60 inches
34:39 <Avatar> A0 is 33.1 x 46.8
42:31 <Avatar> it's just dawned on me it's going to be cheaper to draw the whole thing and have a scaled A4 page for the players as a reference
22:18 <Avatar> posterazor is better than foxit for splitting into pages
05:58 <Steven1> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... im so tired of this migraine.
06:10 <Steven1> 4 days now.
11:27 <Avatar> make it stop pls
11:53 <Brunius> abra kadabra, alakazam
13:43 <Steven1> whoa... no more pain.
13:46 <Steven1> brunius you the man
13:58 * Brunius takes a bow
14:19 <Steven1> i even GM'd tonight
14:34 <Avatar> that's why you're having migraines
14:36 <Avatar> constant GMing
15:12 <Steven1> well if people would step the fuck up and do their fair share of gming
16:10 <Steven1> i've Gm'd 4/9 slots this month.
17:16 <Steven1> i have one person who just flat refuses to gm... ever.
17:34 <Steven1> been coming down to play for like 2 years now.
17:55 <Mekkis> just don't schedule stuff he can play :P
18:07 <Steven1> i just put random things on the schedule.
18:45 <Steven1> unless someone specifically asks for something.
21:35 <Avatar> so you've never printed out a single map before
21:58 <Steven1> they are also a pain in the ass as a person because if someone says something they dont like they come get me to tell the person to stop...
23:14 <Steven1> because obviouly since i'm the VL that means im the babysitter.
23:29 <Brunius> well duh
24:18 <Mekkis> what are his reasons for not GMing?
24:20 <Steven1> i'd have to say thats the worst part about being a VO.
26:00 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure I didn't think I was going to GM ever at one point
26:27 <Steven1> people expect me to fight their battle for them... if you're 10years old and all the 20+ yo people are talking over you and telling you what to do.  I will step in, cause you're a kid.  If you're 25... open your god damned mouth and defend yourself.
26:52 <Avatar> I am beginning to second guess the flame spirit for the shaman already
27:49 <Avatar> Mekkis: yeah I wasn't impressed with erasing liberating command from my list
28:04 <Avatar> I felt physical pain
28:37 <Steven1> seriously guys... this persons mother came in to sit in on a game after the person came and pulled me out of GMing a game because they felt the GM was targeting their character.
29:26 <Steven1> and i came out and was like, whats the situation, heres a solution.  bye.
29:27 <Avatar> you should have then started targetting him
29:50 <Steven1> and then next week... momma bird came in to play with this 25yo.
30:02 <Steven1> to make sure her baby wasnt being picked on.
30:10 <Avatar> maybe she started to like pathfinder society ?
30:45 <Steven1> no... after the game day the mother and the person requested a meeting with me to discuss the incident.
31:20 <Avatar> did the meeting happen before or after she played
31:46 <Steven1> the mother didnt play... she sat at the table
32:21 <Avatar> did you get a chance to target him before the meeting
32:30 <Avatar> so you could admit that yes I was targetting him
32:50 <Steven1> nah i didnt GM, i was busy gming a different table.
32:52 <Avatar> how embarassing, being 25 and having your mother come in to fix it
33:09 <Steven1> would have been for me.
33:22 <Steven1> but then, my mom plays pfs now.
33:25 <Brunius> Sure he's not autistic or something?
33:38 <Brunius> That's pretty much the only situation in which I'd see that as okay
33:49 <Avatar> most of the spells on the shaman list are taken from the core rulebook I think, so all those communal druid spells had vanish cast on them
33:51 <Steven1> she has a dwarven bard who hits people with an improvised weapon rolling pin.
33:52 <Steven1> lol
34:07 <Steven1> nope, not autistic... just a royal pain in the ass.
35:29 <steven> i didnt say that.
35:29 <Steven1> They build VERY optimized characters and then complain to me whenever they get their feelings hurt.
35:47 <steven> I've done it before... costs too much in my opinion
35:56 <Steven1> like when the BBEG calls their female character a wench.
37:26 <steven> so i draw my maps out.
37:53 <Steven1> cause obviously thats a label put on the player right... the gm is totally calling the player a wench... well better go get the VL to straighten this GM out and by god if he doesnt tell this GM off next time im bringing my mother in and we will have a conversation about how name calling isnt appreciated!
38:41 <Steven1> i seriously need a stiff drink.
38:46 <Steven1> i'm fuckin annoyed.
39:11 <Steven1> brb, gonna get some scotch
41:11 <Steven1> well... i dont know if its going to be good for my head
41:17 <Steven1> but fuck its tasty
42:33 <Steven1> anyways... yeah.
42:48 <Steven1> had to GM tonight, didnt really want to.
43:03 <Steven1> missed out on what sounded like an epic game of Overflow Archives Core.
47:08 <steven> i go through more dry erase markers, but i dont have to spend 15 bucks per map
48:24 <Steven1> ran Icebound Outpost.
49:14 <Steven1> i dont understand why the neutral aligned baddies are the only ones who fight to the death.
49:22 <Steven1> because frankly they have the least motivation to do so.
56:20 <Mekkis> because the scenario writers are lazy?
04:17 <Mekkis> is it acceptable to ignore tactics when running an AP in PFS?
07:32 <Avatar> I think you can do it in campaign mode?
07:48 <Avatar> my understanding is all bets are off in campaign mode
07:58 <Avatar> either way you should ask/tell your players
13:22 <Avatar> what size paper did you use
16:49 <Steven1> its run as written whenever pfs is invovled unless campaign mode or player actions invalidate tactics/moral
21:54 <steven> i dont remember... i just remember somebody used a marker on it
22:02 <steven> so it was ruined after that.
27:15 <Mekkis> Do you want me to play this 20 int dragon intelligently
29:20 <Avatar> that's a very polite way to say can I ignore the tactics against this dragon to kill you as efficiently as possible
41:50 <Mekkis> It's more "Should I make this dragon NOT die in one round against you guys"
42:10 <Avatar> is it worth paying conquest in advance
42:17 <Avatar> http://www.conquest.asn.au/visitor-guide/entry-fees/
42:25 <Avatar> tonight is the point of no return apparently
51:41 <Brunius> it's one a dollar
51:45 <Brunius> only even
08:43 <Avatar> all of the above
09:54 <Mekkis> I'd like to hope motive comes into it
11:25 <Mekkis> plus, we are talking 13th level
13:20 <Avatar> preferred playstyle is more important than character level
26:25 <Mekkis> Brunius, how goes the regexes?
27:00 <Mekkis> you'd rather cakeWalk the encounter in one round?\
47:40 <Avatar> nice
48:27 <Avatar> still can't believe there isn't a standardised way to get maps printed yet
48:59 <Avatar> someone could probably make an app that does all of this and nothing else and make millions
04:59 <steven> make it?
12:49 <Avatar> if you're not overly interested in combat, then yes
30:30 <ulzef> hey can anyone think of wierd shortened names for males like ted for theodor and bill for william need a name for my character
30:39 <Brunius> haven't messed with it yet
33:18 <Avatar> tony for anthony
33:37 <Avatar> ben for benjamin
33:39 <Avatar> ken for kenneth
34:49 <Avatar> jerry for jerome
37:28 <Avatar> Brunius, get started
37:34 <Brunius> on what
37:44 <Avatar> making an app that does all of this and nothing else and make millions
38:57 <Avatar> it has to be able to extract a map from a PDF, draw gridlines that can be overlain on it, a few colour sharpening effects, cut into pages of whatever size you might need, auto-centre/auto-rotate options, and printed using those options
39:36 <Brunius> oh, is that all?
39:45 <Avatar> it sounds like a lot, but it's not
39:48 <Brunius> Yeah I'll just make that by tomorrow morning and then send it to you
39:56 <Avatar> mate take the time you need
39:59 <Avatar> this will make you millions
40:26 <Avatar> somehow nobody in the world has done it yet and the 100000 people playing pathfinder and just getting drawn maps or are working with GMs who are mathematicians
41:01 <Avatar> I've been working on this for days and no one person can give me straight answers to the whole process
42:38 <Avatar> even stephen's method apparently requires "trial and error", I don't know how many pages that kind of thing burns
42:46 <Avatar> hey brunius I need a dollar can you send it over pls
42:58 <Avatar> I won't pay it back but that's ok cuz it's only a dollar
43:24 <Brunius> Nah i don't have internet banking, sorry
45:14 <Brunius> what do you mean by 'colour sharpening effects'
45:21 <Mekkis> You know, the 'GM vs player' mentality goes both ways...
46:06 <Avatar> you can make the colours in a map look much sharper than they are, which is better for a printed map
46:25 <Brunius> so you're messing with saturation or something?
46:41 <Avatar> do you have GIMP
46:48 <Brunius> yeah starting it up now
46:57 <Avatar> load up a map, go to Colours > Levels
47:25 <Avatar> move the left hand arrow a little to the right, and the right hand arrow a little to the left
47:41 <Avatar> so it covers the graph a bit more densely
48:04 <Brunius> on input or output
48:47 <Avatar> hang on
49:13 <Avatar> input
49:28 <Avatar> there's 3 arrows there, not 2
49:39 <Brunius> yeah
50:18 <Brunius> I have no idea how you would do that via a program
50:27 <Brunius> Probably easiest to do it via calling the GIMP actually
50:50 <Avatar> well look maybe but it seems like you need 4 different programs and you need to know how to use all of them to do one speciifc thing in each of them
51:13 <Avatar> even some sort of shortcut tool that just does it for you would work
51:25 <Brunius> So you want a grid overlay, image extraction, colour sharpening, and then print that?
51:33 <Avatar> I'm trying to write up a document, but even that reads fairly complicated
51:59 <Avatar> before printing you have to be able to slice it up in however many pages you want, or place it wherever you want on those pages
52:09 <Avatar> posterazor or foxit/acrobat do that
52:12 <ulzef> hmmm
52:28 <Avatar> foxit does it better than acrobat, I'm not sure where posterazor sits because I can't work it out
52:49 <Avatar> I think foxit alone should be able to do it
53:01 <Avatar> think I finally finished up my rebuild on my shaman
53:13 <Avatar> but I'm not sure it can save a map like that so that you can take it somewhere which can bring onto A1 or A2 paper
53:24 <Mekkis> you have a shaman?
53:33 <Avatar> posterazor definitely doesn't have a default setting for a "poster" that big, strangely
53:37 <Avatar> you have to put in custom sizes
53:44 <Mekkis> really, Brunius?
53:45 <Mekkis> wow
54:16 <Avatar> inkscape does a grid overlay, a PDF reader or some PDF image extract will do the extraction, GIMP does colour sharpening
54:43 <Avatar> inkscape seems very difficult to use unless you know what you're looking for, in which case, it's very easy
54:44 <Avatar> yeah I rebuilt my druid
55:39 <ulzef> might go qwith archi/archibald
57:02 <Brunius> I'm pretty sure there's open-source PDF image extraction out there
57:18 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=359
57:32 <Brunius> Mekkis, how does diebot parse input?
57:45 <Avatar> probably still has a few loose screws to fix
58:09 <Avatar> putting a point into cha was probably a mistake
58:33 <Avatar> you could probably skip that part, it's pretty easy to right-click and save as
59:30 <Avatar> the whole point is to make it as easy as possible
01:34 <Avatar> that cut-paste job added a lot of extra shitty spaces into the spell list
02:08 <Avatar> check this out, someone's signup sheet to play a PFS module: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1P0EtF2uW8-qJpxE1uy4RgsQHH3DkOu4uc0zHz1g2mXE/viewform?c=0&w=1
06:58 <Avatar> yeah you should work on that
10:13 <Avatar> dunno about that combo
10:32 <Avatar> my new character is Pedro, from peter
15:47 <Avatar> don't think I'm going to be able to prepay conquest because I have no idea how sessions are billed
16:11 <Avatar> I thought a PFS session is 2 conquest sessions, but that doesn't seem to add up because they say get wrecked covers 13 sessions, and there's 14
25:33 <steven> I've just been letting people do whatever the hell they want.
25:59 <steven> when it comes to games lately.
29:05 <steven> i dont know if i'd want all that information as a gm.
29:34 <steven> like the vision...
30:29 <Mekkis> I'm not signing up for Monday until I know what's going on then
31:31 <Mekkis> Brunius, it's written in ruby: a lot of regexes. Want to discuss it?
31:49 <Brunius> I've been wondering whether to try to figure out regexes
32:42 <Mekkis> YES!
34:01 <Mekkis> what school should my wizard be, given that he's planning on being very blasty?
34:10 <Mekkis> but not with C/C++
42:10 <Mekkis> Damn.
42:20 <Mekkis> I think I've chosen the same stat line I did with deceased
42:25 <Mekkis> Exactly the same one
42:38 <Mekkis> 10/14/12/20/8/8
44:03 <Mekkis> So: Fireball et al (Evocation, reflex); Glitterdust et al (Conjuration, will); Blindness/deafness (Necromancy, fort)
46:20 <Mekkis> I suppose Enchantment and Transmutation get the flick.
46:23 <Mekkis> Or Divination
46:57 <Mekkis> !hp 2d6m2+3
46:58 <diebot> Mekkis, 17
53:50 <Mekkis> !feat forge ring
53:55 <diebot> Mekkis, FORGE RING [Item Creation]Prereq:  Caster level 7th.  You can create magic rings.
53:55 <diebot> Benefit:  You can create magic rings. Crafting a ring takes 1 day for each 1,000 gp in its base price. To craft a ring, you must use up raw materials costing half of the base price. See the magic item creation rules in Magic Items for more information. You can also mend a broken ring if it is one that you could make. Doing so costs half the raw
53:55 <diebot> materials and half the time it would take to forge that ring in the first place. Source: Core
05:25 <Mekkis> you use gimp for colour sharpening?
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10:41 <Mekkis> Avatar, you used the 'class has changed' rebuild rules?
11:48 <Avatar> yeah
12:07 <Avatar> did it with Cairo
12:16 <Mekkis> can shamen cast Summon Nature's Ally
12:17 <Mekkis> ?
12:25 <Avatar> it's funny because paizo seems to prefer to pretend it doesn't exist
12:29 <Avatar> no
12:36 <Avatar> shaman's spell list is surprisingly limited compared to the druid
12:39 <Avatar> I had to take a lot of spells off the list
12:52 <Avatar> why
12:52 <Mekkis> why do you have the stats for a summon in the middle of your sheet
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13:02 <Avatar> that was from the druid build
13:10 <Avatar> what was the change
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15:16 <Mekkis> what? The "spontaneous spells" bit applies to druid as much as it applies to cleric...
21:28 <Avatar> shit
21:31 <Avatar> I will have to re-read that
21:45 <Avatar> the rebuild was going to bring me down to 1/40 prestige
27:19 <Mekkis> yeah, shaman lose a lot of the better spells: liberating command, for instance
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35:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, challenge accepted
26:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, only thing I use gimp for is airbrushing over secret doors
33:15 <steven> 4 hours and i get to play skull and shackles....
33:43 <steven> this day is dragging by like christmas eve did when i was a child
52:27 <Steven1> day 5 migraine... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
55:16 <Steven1> blaaaaah
01:53 <Avatar> Mekkis: if you try the levels trick, I doubt you'll go back to not using it
11:50 <Mekkis> Avatar, you used the 'class has changed' rebuild rules?
12:57 <Avatar> yeah
13:16 <Avatar> did it with Cairo
13:26 <Mekkis> can shamen cast Summon Nature's Ally
13:27 <Mekkis> ?
13:34 <Avatar> it's funny because paizo seems to prefer to pretend it doesn't exist
13:38 <Avatar> no
13:45 <Avatar> shaman's spell list is surprisingly limited compared to the druid
13:48 <Avatar> I had to take a lot of spells off the list
14:01 <Avatar> why
14:01 <Mekkis> why do you have the stats for a summon in the middle of your sheet
14:11 <Avatar> that was from the druid build
14:19 <Avatar> what was the change
16:26 <Mekkis> what? The "spontaneous spells" bit applies to druid as much as it applies to cleric...
17:10 <Avatar> too much neglecting sleep for pathfinder
17:13 <Avatar> I understand
21:42 <Avatar> blaaaaah
22:37 <Avatar> shit
22:40 <Avatar> I will have to re-read that
22:54 <Avatar> the rebuild was going to bring me down to 1/40 prestige
28:29 <Mekkis> yeah, shaman lose a lot of the better spells: liberating command, for instance
43:55 <Steven1> i slept from 2am to 6am and i took a nap at 11-noon... that should have been plenty of sleep
44:26 <Steven1> well... noonish.
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18:57 <Goya> Steven : http://centralcitycomiccon.com/
19:57 <Goya> Nothing much there yet - and it's going to be small... But.. 
22:55 <Goya> If you know anyone at Paizo or in Tri-Cities - or if you wanted to make the trek....  I'm sure they would appreciate an RPG presence. 
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24:37 <Mekkis> Avatar, the reason for that was that the shaman only got its spell list late in development.
24:54 <Mekkis> Until after the playtest, it was a spontaneous caster that used the druid list
02:44 <Mekkis> Brunius: in every place I've worked, regexes have been useful
15:48 <Steven1> ill pass it along to the VL down in that area
25:03 <Brunius|L> You know what I love?
25:11 <Brunius|L> Consulting third party documentation
25:25 <Brunius|L> nothing says "Well put together programming language" like having NO FUCKING DOCUMENATION
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