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00:00:00 <Mekkis> You think they're insane in Pathfinder...
00:00:14 <Avatar> I think 30ft up?
00:00:19 <Mekkis> Check out the 3.5e version.
00:00:24 <Mekkis> !dist 30 30
00:00:25 <diebot> Mekkis, Length of hypotenuse: 42.426407
00:00:43 <Mekkis> I didn't really want to argue the point. The intent was clear
00:01:11 <Avatar> if I'd noticed at the time I would've pointed i tout
00:01:26 <Avatar> I don't think it would've changed the outcome, it worked out
00:01:31 <Mekkis> Remember Ghandi?
00:01:38 <Avatar> yeah
00:01:54 <Mekkis> he abused Holy Word/Dictum
00:02:57 <Mekkis> step 1: raise caster level
00:03:02 <Mekkis> then use: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/holyWord.htm
00:03:17 <Mekkis> see the difference?
00:13:56 <Avatar> yeah that one is garbage
00:17:53 <Mekkis> what? How so?
00:19:07 <Avatar> vs 2d6 str damage
00:19:13 <Avatar> it could just be that mort rolled high
00:19:24 <Avatar> and that I dumped str
00:19:55 <Mekkis> it's not strength damage - it's a decrease in strength
00:20:05 <Mekkis> (thus it can't put your str to below 1)
00:20:23 <Mekkis> Also, I think you missed the important bit...
00:20:45 <Mekkis> "The effects are cumulative and concurrent. No saving throw is allowed against these effects. "
00:21:23 <Mekkis> http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/blasphemy.htm
00:38:21 <Steven> back.
00:38:30 <Steven> she is solo class
00:39:11 <Avatar> are you linking to 3.5 rules
00:39:22 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/spells/blasphemy.html
00:40:03 <Mekkis> Avatar, yes, I am. The difference between Pathfinder Blasphemy and 3.5e Blasphemy is that 3.5e Blasphemy has NO SAVE!
00:40:35 <Avatar> that doesn't mean the pathfinder version doesn't suck
00:40:54 <Avatar> the 3.5 rule is pretty mediiocre compared to nuclear war
00:41:15 <Mekkis> I never said that.
00:41:39 <Mekkis> Problem with either version is that it requires your CL to be higher than their HD, which is often not the case
00:44:04 <Steven> there is 1 scenario where blasphemy is cast by a creature with a high enough caster level to screw over a party big time.
00:45:11 <Mekkis> the 2013 special?
00:45:36 <Steven> nah
00:49:23 <Steven> CL14 in the 10-11 tier, so if you are playing up you get get hosed.
00:49:55 <Mekkis> yeah... ow
00:50:13 <Mekkis> but at least you get a save in Pathfinder
00:50:46 <Mekkis> (I also realised, Avatar, that Perfection wouldn't have been banished - unless the caster was on its home plane)
00:51:15 <Steven> whatss perfections HD? cause i thought you were pure summoner
00:58:48 <Mekkis> 6 or 7, iirc
00:59:59 <Steven> if you're level 9 your eidolon is 7, which means its only CL-4 and wouldnt be subjected to the 3rd level of blasphemy
01:07:54 <Mekkis> can an eidolon retrain feats?
01:08:45 <Avatar> it would probably use your prestige and gp I guess
01:09:56 <Mekkis> what's the stature of limitations of replacing a feat after it's changed by errata?
01:12:28 <Avatar> if you keep the feat the next time you play, you can't retrain it for free later
01:21:14 <Mekkis> really?
01:32:21 <Steven> back
01:32:37 <Steven> i see the chat log has really been booking.
01:32:48 <Mekkis> booking?
01:35:26 <Steven> i want waffles
02:25:28 <Avatar> you don't make a lot of sense sometimes steven
02:27:16 <Steven> i know
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03:25:00 <Steven> i feel like i shouldl make a monk
07:04:43 <Steven> jesus this is annoying.
07:04:58 <Steven> trying to recover my MTGO account.
07:58:01 <Brunius> god dealing with anything wizard digital
07:58:56 <Steven> it was supid difficult.
08:52:01 <Avatar> still think I need to pick up ISG
08:52:21 <Avatar> I don't really want to wait 6 months for the AUD to drop
08:52:29 <Avatar> if it drops
08:53:53 <Avatar> holiday15 discount code is 10% off until feb 1st
08:54:19 <Avatar> if I decide to wait, it will be february and I will forget about it !
09:50:39 <Brunius> the AUD won't go up much
09:53:41 <Avatar> will it come down though
09:53:48 <Brunius> define come down
09:54:00 <Avatar> more in line with the USD
09:54:10 <Brunius> probably not much
09:54:19 <Brunius> demand from china for ore is coming down
09:54:30 <Brunius> Mekkis: Are you able to bring diebot into freenode for a couple hours?
09:54:32 <Avatar> it's possible paizo might drop the price of the book, I guess
09:54:44 <Avatar> what's on freenode
09:54:57 <Brunius> it's what the arma group I play with uses
09:55:08 <Avatar> pathfinder?
09:55:12 <Mekkis> Sure
09:55:15 <Mekkis> What channel, Brunius
09:55:19 <Brunius> They're doing nWOD
09:55:22 <Brunius> #CBB2
09:55:28 <Avatar> what's nWOD
09:55:32 <Brunius> world of darkness
09:55:36 <Mekkis> world of darkness
09:55:41 <Mekkis> (new)
09:55:46 <Avatar> is it good
10:00:08 <Mekkis> it's a rules-light system
10:05:15 <Avatar> trying to apply some unused credit to James, but I kind of can't
10:05:27 <Avatar> levelling up to 10 and playing that scenario yesterday kind of screws me
10:05:55 <Avatar> old credit would have to be applied at what level I was when I got the credit
10:07:40 <Mekkis> you can't apply unused credit.
10:07:54 <Mekkis> you're supposed to apply it as you get it
10:10:59 <Avatar> applying it from that date is the same thing
10:11:19 <Avatar> that's how people make GM credit babies
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11:00:50 <Avatar> missed a very sweet game yesterday phil
11:17:07 <Philderbeast> I played one myself
11:47:32 <Avatar> which one
11:54:00 <Philderbeast> no response from Deepmar
11:54:40 <Philderbeast> scantioned mod
12:00:46 <Avatar> that would not have been as good as our game
12:02:00 <Avatar> sorry
12:02:46 <Philderbeast> what did you guys play?
12:32:01 <Avatar> heresy of man 3
12:32:01 <Avatar> summoner, archaeologist, paladin, life oracle
12:51:57 <Philderbeast> mah....
12:52:10 <Philderbeast> we had a blast in our game so im not dissapointed
12:52:14 <Philderbeast> and i got to play my DD
12:57:08 <Avatar> respectfully we had a much better time
13:07:52 <Philderbeast> thats a little hard to tell since neither of us where at the others game
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14:07:04 <Avatar> nevertheless
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17:01:22 <Steven> what up
17:50:21 <s_gmusic> yo
17:52:53 <Steven> relaxin
17:53:40 <s_gmusic> building gundams and learning warmachine. hope my runelords group can get together soon.
17:54:00 <Steven> my kingmaker group resumes on the 5th
17:55:00 <s_gmusic> nice
17:55:38 <s_gmusic> how derpy has it gotten?
17:55:53 <Steven> not much... the king is a fucking idiot
17:56:08 <Steven> he is a sorcerer... and routinely moves to the front of the group
17:56:16 <s_gmusic> ......
17:56:39 <s_gmusic> let him die and crown a new king?
17:56:41 <Steven> so he goes down in the first round of combat... and then the entire fight gets harder because we have to run up and protect him from dying.
17:57:24 <Steven> which means we are down a person AND not fighting mobs because we are extracting his dumb ass.
17:58:42 <s_gmusic> see suggestion above?
17:59:00 <Steven> its not how we roll.
17:59:12 <s_gmusic> :(
17:59:20 <Steven> the original group died save the general who missed the session.
17:59:33 <Steven> so the replacement characters are part of a merc group.
18:00:16 <Steven> so we have the king and the general the populace would accept
18:00:27 <Steven> the general... ugh.
18:02:17 <s_gmusic> better or worse than the sorc?
18:02:57 <Steven> worse.
18:03:25 <Steven> I would have made a king character, but I was the leader of the group for WotR
18:04:10 <Steven> so i didnt want to be in charge.
18:04:44 <s_gmusic> fair enough
18:07:03 <s_gmusic> my wrath group died.
18:07:43 <Steven> my first character died to a coup from a guy that had 3hp and took 3 AoOs an my companions missed all 3
18:07:57 <Steven> so i made a new character that just refused to die.
18:08:50 <Steven> level 20, 10 tiers
18:08:58 <Steven> effective HP
18:09:08 <Steven> 627hp
18:09:33 <Steven> Tenacious survivor.
18:09:54 <Steven> so after something killed me
18:10:24 <Steven> I could be healed back to life within 18 rounds.
18:11:04 <s_gmusic> lol
18:11:22 <s_gmusic> I didn't get a chance to kill my players. it'd be more appropriate to say that it fell apart.
18:12:46 <Steven> the GM for kingmaker decided to give us 1 mythic tier.
18:13:03 <s_gmusic> o-o
18:13:18 <s_gmusic> bwuh?
18:13:32 <Steven> i built the tier horribly
18:13:37 <Steven> so i wouldnt be overpowered
18:14:25 <Steven> I made a vital strike archer.
18:14:43 <Steven> 3d8+22+1d6(elemental)
18:14:54 <Steven> if i crit i do an extra 2d8
18:16:19 <s_gmusic> that's not horrible.
18:16:32 <Steven> I didnt want to fire a bunch of arrows to slow down the game.
18:16:45 <Steven> so i just fire once for a ton.
18:17:07 <Steven> only 12 rounds of rage though... totes sucks.
18:17:38 <Steven> gonna buy one of the necklaces that give rounds of rage... dont remember what its called though
18:17:45 <Steven> torc of fury or some such thing
18:23:22 <Steven> torc of bloody rage for 8k gives +3 rage rounds.
18:23:53 <Steven> also gives 6 rounds of rage as per the spell.
18:24:06 <Steven> meh...
18:27:20 <s_gmusic> is that per day or once?
18:28:08 <Steven> each day.
18:28:35 <Steven> sadly the rage spell turns off a couple of my abilities.
18:29:30 <s_gmusic> ew
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19:01:27 <spider21b> hi
19:02:06 <Steven> yo