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46:01 <soundlust> Hello! Anyone around? 
52:30 <Wrothmonk> I am, but I'll be heading to bed shortly
53:02 <Wrothmonk> And hello.
53:09 <soundlust> Ah I see, I was hoping to maybe get directed to a more active d&d irc
53:19 <Wrothmonk> Nah, you just got on at a bad time
53:21 <soundlust> I've always wanted to learn, and get into it, but don't have any friends who play
53:31 <soundlust> Was hoping maybe to watch some other people play or follow along or something
54:10 <Wrothmonk> Well we don't exactly play d&d here, we play pathfinder which is based off d&d 3.5
54:23 <soundlust> yeah, I'm interested in that too =D
54:47 <Wrothmonk> So have you checked out the website's getting started guide?
54:59 <soundlust> yep 
57:06 <Wrothmonk> If you're interested in playing just check the schedule for games, you will need to create an account to automatically convert the times and get invited.
57:33 <Wrothmonk> However you can just show up to games by being in the irc at the right time, generally if there are spots open you can join in.
57:57 <soundlust> do people just play over skype?
58:24 <Wrothmonk> We use skype, irc, and a map program called CA (combat assistant) which you can get from the downloads page on the website.
58:38 <Wrothmonk> we also have a bot for dice rolls
58:53 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5 example
58:53 <diebot> Wrothmonk, example: [1d20=15] 20
59:02 <soundlust> Oh neat!
59:21 <Wrothmonk> It also serves as a database but its not exactly top-notch in my opinion.
59:24 <soundlust> I've played RPGs and roguelikes all my life, so I'm extremely familliar with the  terms and methods I think
59:37 <soundlust> I just don't know what to expect or how its even played honestly
59:53 <Wrothmonk> What RPGs have you played?
00:14 <soundlust> video games I meant. =D
01:37 <soundlust> baldur's gate 1 2, icewind dale 1 2, played quite a bit of ultima long time ago, arcanum 
01:39 <soundlust> stuff like that
02:06 <Wrothmonk> I'm afraid I haven't played those so cant really make a comparison. 
02:22 <Wrothmonk> roguelikes are fairly similar though.
02:51 <Wrothmonk> just a bit more complex and all the behind-the-scenes randomizers are replaced with dice.
03:38 <Wrothmonk> Easiest way to know what to expect is to read the pathfinder srd given in the getting started guide
04:36 <soundlust> Noob question I'm sure, but what does pathfinder do that traditional dnd doesnt
05:50 <Wrothmonk> I dont really know specifics myself. I have looked at the dnd 3.5 (which pathfinder is based on) rulebook and its near-exactly the same.
06:36 <soundlust> How long does a typical game take
07:00 <Wrothmonk> normally around 6 hours.
08:19 <Wrothmonk> Well thats pathfinder society at least.
08:52 <Wrothmonk> We normally play pathfinder society which is a standardized version of pathfinder. Meaning you can take your characters to a new gm and play with them no problem
09:28 <soundlust> ah I see. is each game created on the fly
09:35 <soundlust> or are there pre-written campaigns or something
09:42 <Wrothmonk> In pathfinder society they are pre-written scenarios
09:49 <Wrothmonk> which are intended to be single 6 hour sessions
10:40 <soundlust> Would you say the games are taken pretty seriously? That's been one of the biggest apprehensions I've had lol
10:51 <Wrothmonk> Define seriously.
11:00 <soundlust> I heard that people take their games to the hardcore level and beginners aren't really....
11:09 <Wrothmonk> Ah
11:14 <Wrothmonk> I see what you mean
12:51 <Wrothmonk> To give you an idea, normally when its not a un-godly hour in the US or Australlia you will get about 3 people at a time almost jumping at any questions to answer. 
13:40 <soundlust> heh
14:01 <Mekkis> and even during some ungodly hours in AU...
14:06 <soundlust> =D
15:12 <soundlust> do you play any video games Wrothmonk? Any game you would say is pretty similar?
15:41 <soundlust> I'd like to get some 'homework' done, I'm still nervous about ruining people's game or something
16:30 <Wrothmonk> By definition, table top games are not especially similar to videogames, even if we have computerized it.
18:10 <soundlust> Yeah, I figured I would try =D
18:31 <soundlust> I think this giant youtube playlist I'm created may solve the issue
18:46 <Wrothmonk> The closest I think would be WoW but closest is a very loose term. Its similar in the general idea at least.
18:54 <Mekkis> very very loose
19:01 <Mekkis> I'd say the closest would be NWN2
19:02 <Wrothmonk> ^
19:16 <Mekkis> (at least it shares a similar rules system)
19:59 <soundlust> I only watched a friend play that, never did sadly
20:35 <Mekkis> I think it's about $10 on gog.com, but...
22:36 <Mekkis> or there's alwayys bittorrent
22:55 <soundlust> lol
26:40 <Wrothmonk> looks like its $20 actually
27:42 <Wrothmonk> And just when I was hoping wikipedia would be right for once. there isn't a mac version :(
32:27 <Mekkis> should I run something?
52:49 <Steven> do ya want to?
54:32 <Mekkis> somewhat. I think I'd rather play though...
58:46 <Steven> killed my VC!
59:42 <Steven> maybe when i get home here in a few
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01:58 <Wrothmonk> but not the GM? 
04:01 <Steven> I was the GM
04:34 <Steven> drowned and eatin by a byinup
10:27 <Steven> not even his fault
10:35 <Steven> he did a very smart thing
11:43 <Wrothmonk> does anyone else find it weird that google has a category in the search top charts for chemical elements?
16:22 <haladur> hi
18:13 <Steven> hey haladur
19:09 <haladur> Whats up?
30:08 <Steven> killed my VCs character in my RotRL game
30:21 <Steven> talking to a friend about rules for PFS
31:22 <Steven> thats a very politic word to use.
31:25 <Steven> mt
33:34 <haladur> cool
40:25 <haladur> hi Brunius
40:38 <Brunius> sup hal
42:01 <haladur> not much you?
42:20 <Brunius> not too much, just got home
42:30 <haladur> cool
16:10 <Avatar> Mekkis: got a plan for next saturday?
17:14 <Steven> im home
17:21 <Steven> chowing on some fries
17:25 <Steven> mmmmmmm fries
17:31 <Avatar> steven the fry chower
19:18 <Avatar> I believe the word you used was chower
20:58 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> happy?
21:13 <Avatar> yes
21:51 <Avatar> Steven: what's the boon
22:54 <haladur> hi Avatar
23:15 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> kk
25:54 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> love them fries
26:05 <Avatar> haladur
26:14 <Avatar> you play PFS?
26:25 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> wish they would release the two new scenarios already
26:33 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE FUCKIN BOON IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
27:02 <Mekkis> sounds horribly metagamey
27:47 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> im a VL its allowed.
28:22 <Mekkis> so you SHOULD be setting a good example for others!
28:39 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> i m
28:51 <Mekkis> I'll remember that next time someone accuses me of metagaming
29:14 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> i am, by knowing certain things i can correctly advise them on what to do without them metagaming.
29:16 <Avatar> you do mr i check the rafters
29:33 <Mekkis> Avatar, sure, but I didn't say 'But VLs do it' back then!
29:42 <Mekkis> but hey, VLs do it, so it's FINE!
30:13 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> yup, VLs and VCs and GMs are all allowed to look at any scenario they can download
30:16 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> read said scenario
30:33 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> and decide to schedule it based on what they read
31:03 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> like, ive read Dalsine affair... since i've become VL its never been run.
31:26 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> same with ghenett manor gauntlet
32:48 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> but your right, its super metagamey... so this sunday... running both at the shop.
32:53 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> gonna get me a TPK
33:24 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> or a surprise round kill... mmmmmmmmmmmmm yeah
34:37 <Steven> alright, im back
34:44 <Steven> and i cant tell you the boon, until after you play.
35:20 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww balls
35:23 <Avatar> do you know what it is
35:31 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> release date pushed until later today.
35:31 <Steven> why wanna switch from Mantis' Prey to Way of the Kirin?
35:36 <Avatar> no way
35:37 <Steven> yes, i know what the boon is.
35:42 <Avatar> I have been trying to play mantis' prey for years
35:54 <Avatar> I will just buy way of the kirin and have a look
36:06 <Mekkis> but you're stating that you're not reading it so you can schedule it, you're reading it so you can see what the boon is!
36:19 <Steven> couldwait till i schedule it to play
36:31 <Steven> but if you wanna buy it to look... i wont stop ya
36:33 <Avatar> need to organise characters
36:50 <Avatar> if it's no good it might not even be worth waiting for
37:03 <Steven> its good, its applicable to ANY character
37:31 <Avatar> that's not very telling of what it actually is
37:38 <Steven> exactly.
37:43 <Avatar> I will just buy it and look if you won't tell me
37:53 <Steven> I'm not going to spoiler it for you.
38:04 <Avatar> I am spoiling it anyway
38:26 <Steven> well its on you then
38:51 <Avatar> what's on me
39:35 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> im reading it because i should read it incase i need to run it, im excited about reading it because of the boon.
39:55 <Steven> spoiling the boon, I'm tired of mek telling me im a horrible person for looking at scenarios before i play them.  Not gonna want to listen to his rant for spoiling it for another person.
40:37 <Avatar> yeah I would take that advice with a grain of salt
40:48 <Avatar> I'll spoil it if anyone wants to know
41:38 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> i should have bought a pie when i was at the store.
49:31 <haladur> no Avatar
49:39 <Avatar> you should
49:42 <Avatar> you're missing out
49:59 <haladur> thats why im here
51:30 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
52:07 <Avatar> speaking of which, I have to level up my character TONIGHT
52:28 <haladur> i dont know how
54:29 <Avatar> click the getting started link on www.pfrpg.com.au
21:04 <Steven_Chower_of_Fries> alright, goin to take me a nap.... keep it real
29:41 <Avatar> mekkis
35:52 <Mekkis> Steven: are you free on the 8th?
10:43 <YoshitheDreamEater> Hello?
11:00 <Avatar> hello
11:30 <YoshitheDreamEater> So, I am new at this...But I always wanted to try 
11:42 <Avatar> played any pathfinder before?
11:59 <YoshitheDreamEater> I watched my friends one day 
12:06 <Avatar> perfect
12:09 <Avatar> roll up a character
12:54 <YoshitheDreamEater> How do I use the die?
13:07 <Avatar> don't, for now
13:16 <Avatar> click getting started on the front page at www.pfrpg.com.au
13:26 <Avatar> all the links you need are there, get the PFS guide
36:01 <Mekkis> Avatar, I will run WotW on the 8th.
05:44 <Steven_thats_Nappin> sucky mort, i understand how crappy headaches can be.
23:59 <Avatar> okay
24:49 <Steven_thats_Nappin> couple hours and we get the new scenarios
24:54 <Steven_thats_Nappin> gettin excited!
24:58 Steven_thats_Nappin is now known as Steven
25:00 <Avatar> 1.30?
40:02 <Avatar> they are banned
40:16 <Avatar> you cannot choose to play a synthesist
40:23 <Avatar> no matter how much you want to
41:15 <Avatar> damn I missed wrothmonk
41:29 <spider21b> no i ment eldrich knight
41:58 <Avatar> couldn't tell you
43:41 <spider21b> that's what i am doing with spellbook
44:09 <Avatar> brunius are you about
44:13 <Brunius> sup
44:19 <Avatar> are you keen to play on friday
44:27 <Brunius> like tomorrow
44:32 <Avatar> next week
44:44 <Brunius> uh I dunno
45:05 <Avatar> just working out who to choose a scenario for
46:58 <Avatar> my goal as a gunslinger is to, before retiring, set off that powder keg he's been holding since blood under absalom
52:07 <Avatar> maybe infernal vault
52:44 <Avatar> looks like wrothmonk has played that one and the aussies haven't
56:30 <spider21b> my goal is to use that rocket that spellbooks has
10:56 <Avatar> that's not the same
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21:47 <Avatar> just found a chronicle sheet that I never applied credit for
23:14 <Avatar> and I've miscounted how many scenarios I've played
23:21 <Avatar> so Buck is actually on 11.2 exp
37:31 <Brunius|M-> Huh, where did Falang and shift go?
39:14 <Avatar> hmmmm maybe I should ranger (wild stalker) instead of fighter (lore warden)
39:27 <Avatar> low light vision and ranger spell wand use
39:38 <Avatar> seems a hell of a lot better than a bonus feat
40:46 <Avatar> scratch that, 11.1
41:01 <Avatar> there was a mixup with tide of twilight a couple of years ago
41:17 <Avatar> Mekkis: which you didn't fix on paizo.com properly
41:38 <Mekkis> yeah. 1:30
41:57 <Mekkis> I ran it
42:20 <Avatar> shit aye
43:08 <Avatar> woops how did that happen
43:30 <Steven> stuff...
43:55 <Avatar> DONE !
58:27 <Mort-> Yes a wild mort appeared
02:13 <Avatar> speaking of wild, mort
02:26 <Mort-> Yes?
02:29 <Avatar> do you reckon instead of 11th level gunslinger, I should go 10 gunslinger 1 / ranger (wild stalker)
02:38 <Avatar> or 10 gunslinger / 1 fighter (lore warden)
02:47 <Mort-> Ranger
02:51 <Mort-> Cooler
03:13 <Avatar> ranger gives low light vision, +1 perception, ranger spell wand use
03:21 <Avatar> fighter gives extra bonus feats
27:18 <Mekkis> go Paladin 1!
28:47 <Mekkis> ohg
28:54 <Mekkis> SAMARAI!
31:08 <Avatar> buck is closer to an antipaladin 
31:14 <Avatar> why samurai
33:46 <Mekkis> because it's the full-BAB class you haven't considered yet - and you don't seem to want cavalier
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50:59 <Avatar> I don't need attack bonuses man
51:04 <Avatar> I hit everything all the time unless I misfire
51:29 <Avatar> is there any item that gives a constant protection from evil effect apart from a clear spindle
52:31 <Mekkis> 5 levels in maaganayan archanist
52:43 <Mekkis> clear spindle doesn't give you constant PFE
54:54 <Avatar> er
54:54 <Avatar> you sure
55:05 <Mekkis> yes
55:22 <Mort-> It just stops people from dominating you
55:28 <Mekkis> evil people
56:11 <Avatar> yeah that's what I meant sorry
56:24 <Avatar> I just don't want Buck to decide he wants to kill the party with his gun
56:47 <Mekkis> the party will just sunder it :)
58:40 <Avatar> can magic weapons be destroyed
58:52 <Avatar> the impression I got was that they can't
00:16 <Mekkis> of course
00:19 <Mekkis> don't know where you got that from
00:19 <Mekkis> they get extra HP and hardness from enhancement bonus
02:18 <Mekkis> oh wow
02:35 <Mekkis> Guess how many HP Buck's +1 Holy Gun has...
02:49 <Avatar> ?
03:16 <Mekkis> Hardness 7, 15 HP.
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03:43 <Avatar> shit
03:51 <Avatar> I got my info from early firearms
03:56 <Avatar> but that's only if the firearm explodes
04:14 <Avatar> twice
05:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, when's the last time you've seen a counterspell used in D&D or Pathfinder?
15:02 <Avatar> never, why
15:48 <Mort-> Oh
15:58 <Avatar> do those hp take into account that it's a +1 seeking holy gun
16:03 <Avatar> does that change anything
16:04 <Mekkis> what about dispelling a spell using a spell other than dispel magic or greater dispel magic
16:14 <Mekkis> still hardness 7, 15HP
16:30 <Avatar> how do you dispel something other than using dispel magic
16:44 <Mort-> Spell sunder
16:58 <Mekkis> using a diametrically opposed spell
17:04 <Mekkis> slow can be used to dispel haste
17:06 <Mekkis> for example
17:15 <Avatar> oh right
17:18 <Avatar> yeah, still never
17:25 <Mort-> Generally it doesn't happen.
17:33 <Avatar> maybe daylight/darkness
17:47 <Mekkis> oh
18:14 <Mekkis> IF you've seen daylight dispel darkness, you or your GM has done it wrong. I can guarantee it.
18:27 <Avatar> really
18:32 <Avatar> !spell daylight
18:34 <diebot> Avatar, DAYLIGHT evocation ([light]) bard 3, cleric 3, druid 3, paladin 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, inquisitor 3, magus 3 1 standard action Range: touch object touched Comp: V, S Duration: 10 min./level Save: none SR:no
18:34 <diebot> You touch an object when you cast this spell, causing the object to shed bright light in a 60-foot radius. This illumination increases the light level for an additional 60 feet by one step (darkness becomes dim light, dim light becomes normal light, and normal light becomes bright light). Creatures that take penalties in bright light take them
18:34 <diebot> while within the 60-foot radius of this magical light. Despite its name, this spell is not the equivalent of daylight for the purposes of creatures that are damaged or destroyed by such light. If daylight is cast on a small object that is then placed inside or under a light-proof covering, the spell's effects are blocked until the covering is
18:34 <diebot> removed. Daylight brought into an area of magical darkness (or vice versa) is temporarily negated, so that the otherwise prevailing light conditions exist in the overlapping areas of effect. Daylight counters or dispels any darkness spell of equal or lower level, such as darkness.
18:58 <Avatar> what does that last line say
19:20 <Mekkis> Daylight counters or dispels any darkness spell of equal or lower level, such as darkness.
19:20 <Mekkis> I know
19:20 <Mekkis> BUT
19:24 <Mekkis> to dispel a spell, you need to target the same target.
19:41 <Mekkis> Given that it will be Dark, and the range is touch, it's not going to happen.
21:23 <Avatar> I think you're reading too much into specifics there
21:58 <Avatar> if you cast daylight on something within darkness, daylight overrides the darkness in that area
22:01 <Mekkis> sure
22:07 <Avatar> it doesn't have to be cast on exactly the same thing darkness was cast on
22:11 <Mekkis> that's the Daylight Negation Clause
22:15 <Mekkis> it's not DISPELLING
23:03 <Avatar> does it turn the spell off
23:10 <Mekkis> no.
23:19 <Mekkis> It just does weird things in the overlap
23:19 <Avatar> but really it pretty much does
23:28 <Avatar> yeah pretty much
23:59 <Mekkis> the reason I'm asking is because I'm pretty sure I've seen counterspelling occur Once, and dispelling without dispel magic / greater dispel magic occur never.
24:28 <Mekkis> I'm explaining this to my VC while getting a document on exactly how light and darkness interact in Pathfinder.
24:53 <Mekkis> I'm getting it proofread at the moment. Currently it's making two assumptions that are being FAQed
25:26 <Mort-> I have a headache.
31:57 <Avatar> hmm still have a lot more money than I thought I did, a little under 47K
32:05 <Avatar> after purchasing the 15K bracelet
43:23 <Avatar> !item headband of aerial agility
43:24 <diebot> Avatar, HEADBAND OF AERIAL AGILITY +2 [moderate transmutation] CL:8 headband 4500gp, 0lb
43:24 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/headband_of_aerial_agility_+2.html
43:31 <Avatar> !item headband of aerial agility +4
43:32 <diebot> Avatar, HEADBAND OF AERIAL AGILITY +4 [moderate transmutation] CL:8 headband 42000gp, 0lb
43:32 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/headband_of_aerial_agility_+4.html
47:18 <Avatar> crap, my fame doesn't go that high
47:25 <Avatar> I almost forgot that was there
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17:28 <Wrothmonk> Avatar, when you get a chance pm me please.
22:56 <Mekkis> he at work
23:03 <Mekkis> he's probably at work
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45:11 <soundlust> Hello! Anyone around? 
51:40 <Wrothmonk> I am, but I'll be heading to bed shortly
52:13 <Wrothmonk> And hello.
52:19 <soundlust> Ah I see, I was hoping to maybe get directed to a more active d&d irc
52:30 <Wrothmonk> Nah, you just got on at a bad time
52:31 <soundlust> I've always wanted to learn, and get into it, but don't have any friends who play
52:42 <soundlust> Was hoping maybe to watch some other people play or follow along or something
53:21 <Wrothmonk> Well we don't exactly play d&d here, we play pathfinder which is based off d&d 3.5
53:34 <soundlust> yeah, I'm interested in that too =D
53:58 <Wrothmonk> So have you checked out the website's getting started guide?
54:09 <soundlust> yep 
56:16 <Wrothmonk> If you're interested in playing just check the schedule for games, you will need to create an account to automatically convert the times and get invited.
56:44 <Wrothmonk> However you can just show up to games by being in the irc at the right time, generally if there are spots open you can join in.
57:08 <soundlust> do people just play over skype?
57:35 <Wrothmonk> We use skype, irc, and a map program called CA (combat assistant) which you can get from the downloads page on the website.
57:49 <Wrothmonk> we also have a bot for dice rolls
58:03 <Wrothmonk> !throw 1d20+5 example
58:04 <diebot> Wrothmonk, example: [1d20=15] 20
58:13 <soundlust> Oh neat!
58:31 <Wrothmonk> It also serves as a database but its not exactly top-notch in my opinion.
58:34 <soundlust> I've played RPGs and roguelikes all my life, so I'm extremely familliar with the  terms and methods I think
58:48 <soundlust> I just don't know what to expect or how its even played honestly
59:04 <Wrothmonk> What RPGs have you played?
59:24 <soundlust> video games I meant. =D
00:48 <soundlust> baldur's gate 1 2, icewind dale 1 2, played quite a bit of ultima long time ago, arcanum 
00:49 <soundlust> stuff like that
01:16 <Wrothmonk> I'm afraid I haven't played those so cant really make a comparison. 
01:33 <Wrothmonk> roguelikes are fairly similar though.
02:01 <Wrothmonk> just a bit more complex and all the behind-the-scenes randomizers are replaced with dice.
02:49 <Wrothmonk> Easiest way to know what to expect is to read the pathfinder srd given in the getting started guide
03:46 <soundlust> Noob question I'm sure, but what does pathfinder do that traditional dnd doesnt
05:00 <Wrothmonk> I dont really know specifics myself. I have looked at the dnd 3.5 (which pathfinder is based on) rulebook and its near-exactly the same.
05:46 <soundlust> How long does a typical game take
06:11 <Wrothmonk> normally around 6 hours.
07:29 <Wrothmonk> Well thats pathfinder society at least.
08:03 <Wrothmonk> We normally play pathfinder society which is a standardized version of pathfinder. Meaning you can take your characters to a new gm and play with them no problem
08:38 <soundlust> ah I see. is each game created on the fly
08:46 <soundlust> or are there pre-written campaigns or something
08:53 <Wrothmonk> In pathfinder society they are pre-written scenarios
08:59 <Wrothmonk> which are intended to be single 6 hour sessions
09:51 <soundlust> Would you say the games are taken pretty seriously? That's been one of the biggest apprehensions I've had lol
10:02 <Wrothmonk> Define seriously.
10:10 <soundlust> I heard that people take their games to the hardcore level and beginners aren't really....
10:20 <Wrothmonk> Ah
10:24 <Wrothmonk> I see what you mean
12:02 <Wrothmonk> To give you an idea, normally when its not a un-godly hour in the US or Australlia you will get about 3 people at a time almost jumping at any questions to answer. 
12:50 <soundlust> heh
13:11 <Mekkis> and even during some ungodly hours in AU...
13:16 <soundlust> =D
14:23 <soundlust> do you play any video games Wrothmonk? Any game you would say is pretty similar?
14:51 <soundlust> I'd like to get some 'homework' done, I'm still nervous about ruining people's game or something
15:41 <Wrothmonk> By definition, table top games are not especially similar to videogames, even if we have computerized it.
17:21 <soundlust> Yeah, I figured I would try =D
17:42 <soundlust> I think this giant youtube playlist I'm created may solve the issue
17:57 <Wrothmonk> The closest I think would be WoW but closest is a very loose term. Its similar in the general idea at least.
18:04 <Mekkis> very very loose
18:11 <Mekkis> I'd say the closest would be NWN2
18:12 <Wrothmonk> ^
18:26 <Mekkis> (at least it shares a similar rules system)
19:10 <soundlust> I only watched a friend play that, never did sadly
19:45 <Mekkis> I think it's about $10 on gog.com, but...
21:46 <Mekkis> or there's alwayys bittorrent
22:06 <soundlust> lol
27:56 <Steven> fellin mighty lazy right now.
33:48 <Wrothmonk> looks like its $20 actually
42:39 <Steven> feeling even
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59:44 <Steven> killed my VC!
01:08 <Wrothmonk> but not the GM? 
03:35 <Steven> I was the GM
03:48 <Steven> drowned and eatin by a byinup
06:34 <Steven_thats_Nappin> sucky mort, i understand how crappy headaches can be.
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09:45 <Steven> not even his fault
09:48 <Steven> he did a very smart thing
11:28 <Wrothmonk> does anyone else find it weird that google has a category in the search top charts for chemical elements?
25:38 <Steven_thats_Nappin> couple hours and we get the new scenarios
25:44 <Steven_thats_Nappin> gettin excited!
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28:01 <haladur> hi
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29:47 <Steven> killed my VCs character in my RotRL game
29:47 <Steven> talking to a friend about rules for PFS
30:33 <Steven> thats a very politic word to use.
30:45 <Steven> mt
32:45 <haladur> cool
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59:50 <Steven> what up brun
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44:20 <Steven> stuff...
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04:03 <haladur> no Avatar
04:03 <Avatar> you should
04:03 <Avatar> you're missing out
04:03 <haladur> thats why im here
04:03 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
04:03 <Avatar> speaking of which, I have to level up my character TONIGHT
04:03 <haladur> i dont know how
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07:48 <Avatar> there is a ranger archetype in ultimate magic which replaces ALL of your SPELLCASTING
08:04 <Avatar> ie. ultimate magic has something which eliminates magic in your class
10:35 <Brunius> lolwhat
11:53 <Mekkis> I wish that archetype didn't exist
13:33 <Avatar> I don't know if I'd say I wish it didn't exist
13:46 <Avatar> it's just so strange to have an archetype that prevents magic in ultimate magic
14:05 <Avatar> it looks reasonably interesting until I saw what it replaces
14:30 <Avatar> I'm going to put give Buck wild stalker instead of lore warden
15:35 <Avatar> still need to choose one feat
20:46 <Avatar> I'm glad I don't have to level down this character too much
20:51 <Avatar> I was already almost done
22:23 <Avatar> ARGH all the new intelligence skills I got are going to disappear
28:12 <Avatar> I can tell you are all laughing at me right now
28:21 <haladur> I got a charater question.
28:23 <Avatar> well let me just say you had better just watch yourself
28:27 <Avatar> shoot
29:01 <haladur> do you allow beast men charaters?
29:10 <Avatar> what is a beast man character
30:48 <haladur> like gnolls ect..
30:56 <Avatar> no
31:00 <Avatar> do you have the PFS guide
31:42 <haladur> im downloading the core rule book now
33:43 <Avatar> the problem with trying to multiclass into too similar a class is that all the class skills you get are likely to be the same
35:07 <Brunius> so don't multiclass
35:35 <Avatar> have to multiclass
35:58 <Avatar> in my last game the rest of the party decided it would be a better idea to rush ahead instead of heal
36:16 <Avatar> couldn't do a damn thing except wait 10 rounds for our bard to heal himself
36:24 <Avatar> after the next combat
49:34 <Avatar> has toughness become a fairly must-have feat at later levels?
49:52 <Avatar> 10+ hp for a feat seems pretty amazing
51:01 <Steven> theres never a thing as too much HP
36:08 <Ballig> oh, there is
36:35 <Avatar> what feat do you think is better then
36:36 <Ballig> you're cornered, escape is unlikely, and you've just taken a devastating blow. and you're on 1 hit point
36:40 <Ballig> "phew!" you might say to yourself
36:53 <Ballig> except you know - oh, you know. the next round? that next blow? that's going to be the DEATH blow
37:01 <Ballig> and you wish you had 2 less hit points, right then and there
37:23 <Avatar> GMs will kill you anyway
37:33 <Ballig> table variance
37:41 <Avatar> you know what they say about table variance
37:48 <Avatar> expect the worst case scenario because people are jerks
37:51 <Ballig> even a 40% chance of having a GM who won't needlessly target a dying character is better than 0% chance of surviving
42:34 <Avatar> don't know that it's 0%
42:43 <Avatar> I would say it is more like 40%
42:54 <Ballig> if what you are fighting is significantly powerful, it's absolutely 0%
43:38 <Avatar> what if you end up on 10hp
43:45 <Ballig> what if, what if
43:49 <Avatar> then you are OK
43:51 <Ballig> I'm talking about my situation, not the one you turn it into
44:01 <Avatar> now I'm talking about my situation
44:06 <Ballig> I know you love reframing arguments so that your argument makes sense
44:20 <Avatar> you are trying to reframe it so yours makes sense
44:29 <Ballig> I framed it to begin with
44:36 <Ballig> it was my argument
44:39 <Ballig> that's how arguments work
44:49 <Avatar> I don't know about all of this
45:10 <Ballig> you are using a straw man fallacy
45:52 <Avatar> whatever, tell me some good feats
45:59 <Ballig> toughness
46:01 <Ballig> ha ha, kidding
46:04 <Ballig> for your gunslinger?
46:21 <Avatar> yeah
47:15 <Ballig> you want a feat that won't improve your damage output?
47:16 <Avatar>  yeah
47:32 <Avatar> not improved initiative or iron will or skill focus
47:39 <Avatar> something cool
48:19 <Ballig> you have combat reflexes?
48:27 <Avatar> can't take attacks of opportunity
49:55 <Ballig> do you have shot on the run?
50:03 <Avatar> no, I was considering that
50:07 <Avatar> or deft shootist
50:20 <Avatar> I don't have mobility yet, but I could take that now and those later
50:36 <Avatar> but that was when I could choose two feats at once, now I'm leaning more towards toughness than mobility
51:21 <Ballig> racial heritage !
51:57 <Avatar> what is that
52:15 <Ballig> lets you be considered both human and another humanoid race for choosing feats and spell effects etc
52:20 <Avatar> that is ajoke
52:24 <Ballig> you could take racial heritage (elf) and be immune to ghast paralysis!
52:38 <Avatar> that's pretty funny
53:01 <Ballig> I do wish Rabble was an elf
53:12 <Avatar> why
53:17 <Ballig> I want him to have Light Step
53:39 <Ballig> although looking at the full text instead of just the short description, it specifies "in natural environments"
53:41 <Ballig> so it's not as good as I thought
53:51 <Avatar> you can get feather step for that
53:56 <Avatar> I used to hate difficult terrain
54:09 <Ballig> what's feather step
54:14 <Avatar> it's a 1st level spell
54:25 <Ballig> he's a fighter
54:37 <Avatar> so give a scroll to your friendly wizard
54:39 <Ballig> not a druid
54:43 <Ballig> it's a bard/ranger/druid spell
54:46 <Ballig> so no, friendly wizard won't help
54:50 <Avatar> take a level of ranger like I am
54:58 <Avatar> wild stalker
55:00 <Avatar> get low light vision
55:02 <Ballig> wisdom too low to cast
55:08 <Ballig> needs to be 11 minimum
55:27 <Ballig> and a friendly ranger/bard/druid won't cast a 10 minute spell on you when combat starts
55:36 <Ballig> and it won't help you much casting it outside of combat unless you know it's about to start
55:59 <Ballig> he has nimble moves, so he can ignore 20 feet of difficult terrain
56:07 <Ballig> (so taken 2 feats for it already)
56:15 <Ballig> would just be nice to be able to take one more feat and ignore all difficult terrain
57:25 <Avatar> nimble moves might be alright
57:35 <Avatar> hang on, not with feather step
57:48 <Ballig> your gunslinger is actually going a level of ranger?
57:50 <Ballig> to get feather step?
58:30 <Avatar> he's going a level of ranger to cast ranger spells from wands and scrolls
58:40 <Ballig> like what?
58:42 <Avatar> and he gets low light vision and something else
58:49 <Avatar> wild stalker archetype from UC
59:03 <Ballig> what ranger spells?
00:15 <Avatar> all of them
00:27 <Ballig> which ones specifically make it worthwhile to multiclass?
02:19 <Avatar> cure light wounds
02:22 <Avatar> delay poison
02:26 <Avatar> endure elements
02:35 <Avatar> feather step
02:39 <Ballig> these seem like great potions
03:01 <Ballig> and CLW at level 10? really?
03:10 <Avatar> cure serious wounds
03:24 <Avatar> CLW from a wand still works
09:24 <Avatar> what's the rule on what you can't make with potions
09:27 <Avatar> range personal ?
10:46 <Ballig> you can make range personal potions I believe
13:42 <Avatar> The imbiber of the potion is both the caster and the target. Spells with a range of personal cannot be made into potions.
14:00 <Ballig> huh, thought I'd seen those potions
14:28 <Avatar> probably not legal ones
19:03 <Avatar> friendly switch might be decent
19:20 <Avatar> switch places with adjacent ally, ally doesn't take penalty for moving 
19:21 <Ballig> isn't there a maneouvre for that
19:52 <Avatar> as in you think I should use a combat maneuver to reposition?
20:05 <Avatar> you're in your square when you do that
21:40 <Avatar> oh shit, maybe inquisitor is better
21:46 <Ballig> ha
28:38 <Avatar> yeah inquisitor is a bit of a no brainer
29:01 <Ballig> what will you do without feather step
29:40 <Avatar> make do
30:09 <Ballig> you could get potions
30:26 <Avatar> travel domain maybe
30:53 <Avatar> that would boost my movement to 50ft
30:56 <Avatar> I would be as fast as a horse
35:17 <Avatar> liberation gives freedom of movement wis rounds/day 
37:55 <Ballig> freedom of movement is better
38:03 <Ballig> but you can use it less often than agile feet from travel
38:25 <Ballig> does level 1 inquisitor get spells?
38:35 <Avatar> yeah
38:42 <Avatar> at level 1, not level 4/5
39:05 <Avatar> it would be weird casting divine spells with Buck without a magic item
39:14 <Avatar> though he has been working at a temple since forever
39:46 <Mekkis> heh
40:35 <Ballig> Avatar: are you sure about liberation?
40:41 <Ballig> is that specific to inquisitor?
40:46 <Ballig> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/cleric/domains/paizo---domains/liberation-domain
40:54 <Ballig> that suggests it's class level per day, not wis per day
41:31 <Avatar> ah woops
41:37 <Avatar> most of them are wis rounds/day
41:40 <Avatar> or wis uses/day
41:50 <Ballig> yeah
41:58 <Avatar> I don't need it since I have a fettered shirt
42:29 <Ballig> travel might be better for you
42:43 <Avatar> don't need the extra speed honestly
43:56 <Avatar> there's a feat that lets you take a second favoured class 
44:34 <Ballig> that's not really worth it at your level
44:41 <Ballig> you're better off getting a feat that gives you +skill or +hp
46:42 <Avatar> like toughness
46:55 <Avatar> unless I find a feat that benefits inquisitor, I'll go with toughness
47:08 <Avatar> spellbreaker archetype looks pretty sweet
47:26 <Avatar> reroll will saves vs mind affecting
47:44 <Avatar> lose monster lore, but oh well
47:57 <Avatar> the less I know about monsters the better I think
48:27 <Ballig> there's probably an extra judgement feat
49:57 <Avatar> I don't really understand judgements
50:39 <Ballig> they last for the entire combat
50:46 <Ballig> you can use them once a day at level 1
50:50 <Ballig> there might not actually be an extra judgements feat
51:04 <Ballig> but e.g. there's a "healing" judgement, gives you fast healing 1 for the entire combat
51:16 <Avatar> there is
51:47 <Avatar> 1st level inquisitor gets BAB +0
51:55 <Avatar> so I lose my 3rd attack, hooray
52:24 <Ballig> there is what? extra judgement?
52:30 <Avatar> yeah
52:44 <Ballig> what's it called?
52:59 <Avatar> extra judgement
53:06 <Ballig> link?
54:11 <Avatar> maybe I am on drugs
54:22 <Ballig> you are def. on drugs
54:34 <Ballig> there are Extra * feats for everything else in the APG, but not judgments
54:36 <Ballig> I was surprised
54:44 <Avatar> there's second judgement
54:47 <Avatar> not sure if that's the same thing
54:53 <Avatar> lets you have two going at once
54:57 <Ballig> that's a class feature
54:58 <Ballig> not a feat
55:11 <Ballig> you get it at 8th level inquisitor
55:17 <Avatar> oh judgement surge is the one I'm thinking of
55:35 <Ballig> that won't let you use judgements more often
55:46 <Ballig> it'll just increase the effect
55:53 <Ballig> so you could get the Healing judgement and the feat Judgement Surge
56:03 <Ballig> once per day you would use your Healing judgement and it will give you fast healing 2 instead of fast healing 1
56:51 <Ballig> it's too bad the +attack/AC/saves judgements are every 5 levels instead of 3
57:01 <Ballig> you could get the judgement that gives you +1 to all saves, then get judgment surge and make it +2
59:58 <Ballig> resistance + surge would be okay
01:31 <Avatar> do I need to pick a goddamn diety now
02:18 <Ballig> prob
04:02 <Mekkis> don't think so: druids and rangers iirc don't need to
04:36 <Avatar> so what do I get for a favoured weapon
04:49 <Avatar> y'know, aside from, a gun
04:57 <Mekkis> why will it come up
05:04 <Mekkis> why will it come up
05:55 <Avatar> I don't know, but it might and I have to decide now
06:06 <Ballig> do you get a favoured weapon as an inquisitor
06:11 <Avatar> yeah
06:14 <Avatar> weapon proficiency
06:17 <Ballig> you don't get the spell slots from the domain
06:27 <Ballig> where does it say inquisitors get the weapon proficiency
06:28 <Avatar> I don't care about that
06:35 <Avatar> weapon and armor proficiencies
07:14 <Avatar> the only reason I thought of going inquisitor was because I was looking over general feats and found stern gaze as a pre-requisite on a nice feat and thought what the hell is that?
07:21 <Avatar> and that feat was this: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/insightful-gaze
07:33 <Avatar> roll twice on sense motive, take best result!
07:42 <Ballig> really
07:51 <Avatar> cmon sense motive hardly works 
08:05 <Avatar> you roll and you don't even know if it's actually true or not
08:09 <Ballig> it's only versus bluff
08:11 <Avatar> because you might have rolled a 1
08:16 <Ballig> you still won't know, you'll just get a chance to roll twice
08:19 <Avatar> what else would it be versus
08:31 <Avatar> yeah but rolling twice is the most powerful mechanic in the game
08:39 <Ballig> they aren't always lying to you when you sense motive
08:50 <Avatar> if they're not lying, I don't care
09:02 <Ballig> sometimes you just want to know what their motives are
09:06 <Ballig> get it? you are sensing their motives?
09:24 <Avatar> you have a point there
09:32 <Avatar> that is actually what we're usually doing
10:10 <Avatar> there's one like that for intimidate too, but my charisma is shit
10:38 <Avatar> I probably should have invested more ranks in intimidate to fit his character concept, but oh well
10:45 <Mekkis> seems like a crappy feat.
10:49 <Avatar> he's surprisingly cooperative
11:05 <Avatar> what feat do you think I should go for mekkis
11:44 <Mekkis> I've found bluff and intimidación aren't used much in pfs
12:38 <Avatar> I use bluff with snickers quite a bit
12:52 <Avatar> I have to, that's her diplomacy
13:02 <Avatar> it's easy, just lie a lot
13:22 <Mekkis> yeah, you need to go out of your way.
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13:30 <Mekkis> Like Heneski
13:58 <Mekkis> and his "My wife was on that boat" thing he uses everywhere
14:44 <Avatar> I don't know who Heneski is
14:48 <Avatar> or what the boat is
15:10 <Ballig> he just shows them a painting of a sinking boat
15:14 <Ballig> and says "my wife was on that boat"
15:19 <Ballig> the enemies feel sad for him and let him escape
15:43 <Avatar> oh is this the glibness one
15:47 <Mekkis> Heneski just brings up his wife every time
20:18 <Mekkis> weapon focus (blunderbus)
20:34 <Avatar> I have a musket
20:44 <Avatar> I'm not even proficient with a blunderbuss
21:11 <Mekkis> eldritch heritage 
21:30 <Mekkis> combat reflexesw
22:45 <Mekkis> Favoured Enemy (magical Beast)
22:55 <Mekkis> Extra Deed
23:03 <Avatar> those aren't even feats
23:11 <Mekkis> Additional traits
23:38 <Mekkis> iron will
24:22 <Avatar> I'm taking an ability which allows me a will reroll
24:29 <Avatar> to make up for my low will save
24:51 <Mekkis> fleet!
25:45 <Avatar> now you're messing with me
26:00 <Mekkis> why not combat reflexes?
26:17 <Avatar> because guns don't threaten
26:38 <Avatar> maybe as improvised weapons
28:16 <Mekkis> !feat clustered shot
28:17 <diebot> Mekkis, CLUSTERED SHOTS [Combat] You take a moment to carefully aim your shots, causing them all to strike nearly the same spot. Prerequisites: Point-Blank Shot, Precise Shot, base attack bonus +6. Benefit: When you use a full-attack action to make multiple ranged weapon attacks against the same opponent, total the damage from all hits before
28:17 <diebot> applying that opponent's damage reduction. Special: If the massive damage optional rule is being used (Core Rulebook 189), that rule applies if the total damage you deal with this feat is equal to or exceeds half the opponent's full normal hit points (minimum 50 points of damage).
28:17 <diebot> Benefit:  Source: UC
28:40 <Mekkis> take that
28:52 <Avatar> I have a deed that does that already
29:03 <Avatar> Elysium’s Call (Su): With a touch, you can imbue creatures with the spirit of Elysium, lifting their spirits and freeing them from bonds. The creatures touched can immediately reroll any failed saving throws against spells and spell-like abilities of the enchantment (charm) and enchantment (compulsion) subschools. In addition, targets receive a +2 sacred bonus on such saving throws and a +2 
29:03 <Avatar> sacred bonus on CMB checks to escape a grapple. Finally, targets can ignore up to 5 feet of difficult terrain each round, as if they had the Nimble Moves feat. These bonuses last for a number of rounds equal to 1/2 your cleric level (minimum 1), although the saving throw reroll only applies when the creature is touched. You can use this ability for a number of rounds per day equal to 3 + your 
29:03 <Avatar> Wisdom modifier.
29:17 <Avatar> this does nothing for me but sounds like it might help a lot in higher levels
30:02 <Mekkis> that doesn't help with DR
30:15 <Ballig> he already has a deed for the DR
30:30 <Avatar> trust me my gun is fine
31:07 <Mekkis> combat expertise?
31:27 <Avatar> toughness is better than combat expertise
32:39 <Mekkis> is it?
33:01 <Avatar> yeah
34:14 <Mekkis> blind fight?
35:37 <Mekkis> nimble moves
35:41 <Avatar> it's a seeking gun
35:54 <Avatar> it's okay I'm good now
36:17 <Mekkis> far shot?
36:22 <Mekkis> does that work?
37:34 <Avatar> not as good as toughness
37:37 <Avatar> my gun is fine
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40:57 <spider21b> hi!
41:48 <Mekkis> hej
42:56 <Avatar> best secondary weapon: greatsword, whip, falchion, greataxe ?
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48:27 <Avatar> I'm thinking either whip or falchion
49:46 <Avatar> scratch falchion, whip or greataxe
59:46 <Mekkis> Why not something with reach?
59:49 <Mekkis> Guisarme
00:57 <Mekkis> !item talons of Leng 
01:00 <diebot> Mekkis, TALONS OF LENG [strong transmutation] CL:15 hands 67000gp, 1lb
01:00 <diebot> Finely laid gold filigree lines these ornately worked talons. Once donned, the talons of Leng grant the wearer a natural claw attack with each hand that deal 1d4 points of damage for a Medium wearer, or 1d3 points of damage for a Small wearer. These claw attacks have a +3 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls. On a critical hit, the target
01:00 <diebot> must succeed at a DC 20 Will save or become permanently confused as per the insanity spell. This is a mind-affecting effect. The wearer of the talons of Leng is immune to effects that grant the confused condition. For as long as she wears the talons, however, her Wisdom is reduced by 2, as alien voices constantly whisper through her head. The
01:01 <diebot> talons of Leng do not interfere with spellcasting, the use of handheld items, or wielding weapons. Source: Ultimate Equipment
01:55 <Avatar> it's not a favoured deity weapon
02:03 <Avatar> a whip has reach
02:35 <Mekkis> why does it need to be a favoured deity weapon
02:54 <Avatar> it's for choosing a proficiency
03:09 <Avatar> I get a proficiency in my diety's favoured weapon
03:13 <Avatar> not favoured diety, sorry
04:21 <Mekkis> and why the hell are you choosing a deity based on their favoured weapon? That's what Mavor would do
05:38 <Avatar> what should I be choosing it on
05:54 <Avatar> that's what a lot of people do actually, not just mavor
06:03 <Mekkis> who your character would worship
06:09 <Mekkis> You should worship Besmara.
06:51 <Mekkis> that seems like the kind of deity Buck would hang out with
07:34 <Mekkis> yeah. That seems good.
08:09 <Avatar> what book is besmara in
08:28 <Mekkis> Core?
08:55 <Avatar> not in mine
09:11 <Brunius> that one about pirates
09:13 <Brunius> and skulls
09:15 <Brunius> and handcuffs
09:27 <Avatar> what?
10:01 <Brunius> try some of the stuff released about the time of skulls and shackles
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10:11 <Mekkis> it's in Inner sea world guide
10:16 <Mekkis> and Gods and Magic
10:32 <Mekkis> p228
10:47 <Mekkis> (She's one of Ulzef's gods)
11:06 <Mekkis> (as in, the one he puts down as worshipping)
11:13 <Avatar> besmara is a pirate deity
11:17 <Avatar> that does sound awesome
11:40 <Avatar> how can I say no to that
11:51 <Mekkis> rapier and rifle sounds pretty good too.
12:14 <Mekkis> especially as Buck has no strength bonus to talk about
13:03 <Avatar> he has 12 str
13:09 <Mekkis> yeah
13:17 <Avatar> hardly nothing
13:22 <Mekkis> so a two-handed weapon does no extra damage to speak of
13:29 <mortician> not these days
13:39 <Mekkis> and he doesn't qualify for power attack
14:37 <mortician> hey what game you playing mekkis
15:04 <Mekkis> ummm. I installed assassin's creed three today...
16:52 <Avatar> matchmaking on that game is godawful
17:01 <Avatar> assassin's creed revelations was better, but still not great
18:17 <Wrothmonk> Avatar, when you get a chance pm me please.
18:17 <Mekkis> meh. I play it for the single player
23:45 <Mekkis> he at work
23:53 <Mekkis> he's probably at work
25:26 <Avatar> is read magic a dumb cantrip to take if you don't have great spellcraft
25:46 <mortician> boring
25:52 <Avatar> you're boring
26:59 <mortician> just hope it doesn't tip off a deity better off for it
27:32 <Avatar> yeah good point
27:55 <mortician> magic is sealed not exposed
28:07 <mortician> its a point or markspot
28:44 <mortician> most of it is under or over in ancient pasts
28:51 <Mekkis> I don't know the use of read magic
29:12 <Mekkis> it's probably a rule I haven't read properly and don't understand
29:51 <mortician> no cause most of it is illegal
30:09 <Mekkis> mortician, are you on some sideband?
30:18 <Mekkis> or is my LC incorrect?
30:59 <mortician> who knows
31:20 <Mekkis> I was hoping you did
35:57 <Mekkis> ok. Read Magic is actually a reasonable spell to prepare if you don't have high (say +15) spellcraft
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10:58 <Avatar> yeah mine is 5
13:20 <Avatar> I think it might time to get a headband of wis
16:25 <Mekkis> !item  ghost mirror armor
16:39 <Mekkis> !item ghost mirror armor
16:39 <diebot> Mekkis, GHOST MIRROR ARMOR [strong abjuration and transmutation] CL:15 armor 22675gp, 45lb
16:40 <diebot> Crafted by Uqtaal spirit-shamans, this ancient +1 ghost touch four-mirror armor (Pathfinder RPG Ultimate Combat 128, or use breastplate) consists of four polished steel plates harnessed together with leather shoulder straps. Two round plates protect the wearer's front and back, while two smaller rectangular plates cover the sides of the torso. The
16:40 <diebot> wearer of ghost mirror armor can cast deathwatch (caster level 1st) three times per day. In addition, when the wearer is attacked by an incorporeal undead creature, the armor automatically casts protection from evil on the wearer as an immediate action up to once per day. Source: AP 51
16:40 <diebot> Mekkis, GHOST MIRROR ARMOR [strong abjuration and transmutation] CL:15 armor 22675gp, 45lb
16:49 <Mekkis> do you have a Way of escaping grapples?
17:07 <Avatar> yeah
17:12 <Mekkis> what is it?
17:21 <Avatar> unfettered shirt
17:29 <Avatar> should I burn 16K on a headband +4
17:32 <Mekkis> no
17:42 <Avatar> extra spell use
17:50 <Avatar> and grit
18:13 <Mekkis> if I were you, I'd get a bunch of cheap items that help a lot.
18:19 <Mekkis> Deathwatch goggles
18:24 <Avatar> I have about 47k
18:45 <Mekkis> Hand of Glory (or mask of the mantis)
19:22 <Mekkis> (for see invisibility. Hand of Glory also gives Daylight which is good with darkness)
19:26 <Mekkis> Goz mask or fogcutter lenses
19:40 <Mekkis> Swarmbane clasp
20:41 <Avatar> these are good
21:06 <Mekkis> Ring of spell storing
21:18 <Mekkis> ring of counterspells
21:37 <Mekkis> ring of transposition
22:15 <Avatar> do rings of transposition come as a pair
22:31 <Avatar> oh, magical or mundane
22:46 <mortician> depends if they dropped it down as a donation
22:57 <Avatar> hey mortician
23:01 <Avatar> are you on drugs?
23:13 <mortician> nope
23:23 <Avatar> how come nothing you say ever makes sense
23:50 <mortician> well u should think about it
25:02 <Mekkis> mortician, what does D&D stand for?
25:18 <mortician> no idea
25:29 <mortician> okay first impression
25:39 <mortician> dunb and dumber
25:43 <mortician> lol
25:54 * Avatar sets ban on *!*@175e0b66.dodo.com.au
25:56 Avatar has kicked mortician from #d&d (when come back, bring pie!)
26:02 <Avatar> wrong answer
26:13 <Mekkis> oh
26:26 <Mekkis> I was wondering if that was enough to result in a ban.
26:38 <Mekkis> you should get Apprentice's Cheating Gloves, just for the name
26:59 <Mekkis> not just for the name!
27:04 <Mekkis> you'll love it!
27:17 <Avatar> waste of a hand slot
27:31 <Mekkis> what's in your hand slot?
27:34 <Avatar> I bought a hand of the mage about just before last scenario
27:38 <Avatar> nothing
27:46 <Mekkis> then it's not a waste
28:23 <Avatar> I'll think about it if I have to replace my neck slot
28:37 <Mekkis> hey. Hand of the Mage isn't something you need in combat
28:48 <Mekkis> you can always fish it out if you need to do something
28:57 <Avatar> yeah true
29:09 <Avatar> I kind of want to sell my golembane scarab
29:16 <Mekkis> Tremor boots perhaps?
29:22 <Avatar> the only reason I haven't is because I haven't had to, I'm rich
29:32 <Avatar> already wearing boots of springing and striding
29:50 <Mekkis> !find buck
29:51 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=308
29:59 <Avatar> that's not up to date
31:09 <Avatar> mask of the mantis is pretty damn nice
31:10 <Mekkis> I was just looking at your empty slots
31:20 <Mekkis> sure, but do you really want to wear it?
31:31 <Mekkis> actually...
31:37 <Avatar> maybe
31:42 <Mekkis> if Buck was wearing a Mask of the Mantis
31:53 <Mekkis> he would really look like someone you wouldn't want to mess with!
31:57 <Avatar> it's not like that other joker of a hat steven was telling me I should wear instead of the bracelet
32:05 <Avatar> he has a pirate's eye patch
32:19 <Mekkis> then worship Acheakek and wield a sawtooth sabre!
32:40 <Avatar> none of my characters will worship anyone whose name can't be pronounced
32:49 <Mekkis> AK eak ek
32:55 <Mekkis> easy
33:09 <Avatar> that doesn't look right
33:25 <Mekkis> is your shoulder slot still free?
35:07 <Mekkis> what gives you your dodge bonus to AC?
35:20 <Avatar> yeah shoulder slot is free
35:24 <Avatar> I have the dodge feat
35:28 <Mekkis> that's +1
35:32 <Mekkis> where's the +4?
35:43 <Avatar> nimble
35:46 <Avatar> gunslinger class ability
35:52 <Mekkis> ah
36:30 <Avatar> I really should get a swarmbane clasp
36:45 <Mekkis> why? just set off that barrel of powder!
36:56 <Avatar> haha! true that
37:08 <Avatar> I bought some tools to be ready for just such a situation
37:16 <Avatar> I'm not sure if fighting a swarm is enough
37:26 <Avatar> I mean he already did that way back in tier 1-2 or 3-4
37:36 <Avatar> he's a big boy now, meant for bigger things
37:51 <Avatar> killing a swarm with explosives is kind of like dropping a cherry bomb in the school toilet
37:52 <Mekkis> but yeah... The items I suggested back there let you get around invisible enemies, swarms, fog, and darkness
38:12 <Avatar> yeah good recs
40:51 <Mekkis> potions of lesser restoration.
40:53 <Mekkis> Several
41:07 <Mekkis> as in, eight.
41:39 <Avatar> er
41:40 <Avatar> really
43:06 <Mekkis> yeah. I've been thinking back to stoval stairs
43:20 <Mekkis> we shouldn't have rested at the top of the stairs.
44:57 <Mekkis> mmmm... What's your approach to underwater stuff?
45:17 <Avatar> I have dry load stuff and touch of the sea
45:22 <Avatar> the pirate's eye patch
45:46 <Mekkis> your gun's range increment underwater is still Shitall.
46:04 <Avatar> what is it
46:16 <Mekkis> 5'
46:18 <Mekkis> iirc
46:29 <Avatar> might need to check up the rules for that one
46:33 <Mekkis> it was in 3.5
47:01 <Avatar> I don't know about 3.5, but I've read underwater combat in pathfinder and dont' remember range increment being hurt
47:19 <Mekkis> Ranged Attacks Underwater: Thrown weapons are ineffective underwater, even when launched from land. Attacks with other ranged weapons take a –2 penalty on attack rolls for every 5 feet of water they pass through, in addition to the normal penalties for range.
48:17 <Avatar> wonder if that means it goes beyond the range increment
48:26 <Mekkis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APS_underwater_rifle
48:28 <Mekkis> get one of them
48:37 <Avatar> yeah ok
50:18 <Mekkis> regardless, it means that your weapon won't be useful.
50:46 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=308
51:23 <Avatar> then I guess I'll be the party healer
51:48 <Brunius> >Russian guns
52:18 <Mekkis> 5'x5' square of canvas.
52:43 <Avatar> what
52:49 <Mekkis> get one
53:10 <Avatar> what for
53:16 <Avatar> Buck wouldn't paint
53:47 <Mekkis> covering up objects that are radiating darkness/light/loud noises/disease/weird radiation
53:49 <Avatar> hey while you're here, do you want to fix the reporting for tide of twilight that I GM'd on boxing day 2011
53:53 <Mekkis> covering over pits
53:58 <Avatar> you've got written in Buck instead of Cairo
53:59 <Mekkis> sure....
54:34 <Avatar> I've never heard of anything that radiates darkness/light/noises/radiation/disease
54:55 <Avatar> I haven't even heard of radiation as a mechanic
55:10 <Mekkis> can you FAQ http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2psve?Darkness-and-HighLevel-Light-Spells#1 http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pt0c?Daylights-Special-Negation-Clause please
57:16 <Mekkis> Tide of Twilight?
57:27 <Mekkis> GM# 22871-2?
57:31 <Mekkis> should be 22871-4?
58:05 <Avatar> no the number is right
58:10 <Avatar> but it says Buck Beastwood, it should be Cairo Oraci
58:19 <Brunius> uh
58:22 <Mekkis> no
58:25 <Avatar> 22871-2 is Cairo
58:27 <Brunius> if the number is right then the name will be right
58:36 <Avatar> it's not because we had a dispute over it
58:38 <Mekkis> the number's 22871-2. The name's Avatar.
58:42 <Brunius> it automatically does it
58:49 <Mekkis> Brunius, not for GM names
59:04 <Mekkis> the number should be 22871-4, is this correct Avatar?
59:06 <Avatar> has the reporting system broken
59:10 <Avatar> it should be -2
59:21 <Mekkis> it is -2
59:21 <Avatar> on mine it has Buck next to the name for that game
59:35 <Avatar> that's weird
59:59 <Avatar> maybe it doesn't take note of changes
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