// #d&d — 2013-05-08
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00:08:49 <Mekkis> ...
00:14:20 <Falang> ... --- ...
00:28:16 <Mekkis> you need to work on your gaps - they're a bit long
00:35:06 <Mekkis> !feat selective channeling
00:35:10 <diebot> Mekkis, SELECTIVE CHANNELING []Prereq: Cha 13, channel energy class feature. You can choose whom to affect when you channel energy.
00:35:10 <diebot> Benefit: When you channel energy, you can choose a number of targets in the area up to your Charisma modifier. These targets are not affected by your channeled energy.
00:35:10 <diebot> Normal: All targets in a 30-foot burst are affected when you channel energy. You can only choose whether or not you are affected. Source: Core
00:36:54 <BoomerET> Hydrazine, you around?
00:38:53 <BoomerET> I guess that would be a no.
00:43:52 <Mekkis> he's been on and off
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07:06:15 <Ashar> prolly should have disconnected first
07:06:59 <Farang> *sigh* Starting to hate how restrictive this network is. it's like having a nanny
07:08:52 <Falang> let's see if that works, I can just put it up on dropbox at the worst I guess.
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07:09:06 <Falang> and dropbox it is
07:09:26 <andrey> it might be because I'm behind a nat
07:09:42 <andrey> but dropbox will work
07:09:53 <Falang> well the transfer started, I'm assuming your end was fine. otherwise it would have never started. Mine has been flaky all day.
07:09:57 <andrey> dropox email that is
07:10:08 <Falang> oh I won't email it, it's 24mb. I'll just put it public and give the link
07:10:34 <Falang> should be uploaded in about 20 minutes it says
07:11:11 <Falang> so in about 20 minutes, maybe give it a few more just to be safe, try this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/202013/True%20Sorcery.pdf
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07:12:47 <Falang> curry, curry, curry, currreeeeyyyy...
07:17:18 <Avatar> I haven't tried this, but it's supposed to be good: http://www.jolicloud.com/
07:25:41 <Avatar> considered rolling another wizard today
07:25:59 <Avatar> my inquisitor was actually a wizard for a while
07:26:18 <Avatar> but people on the messageboards start talking about niche powers from archetypes and secret powers and they make me thirsty
07:29:38 <Avatar> http://pathfindersocietyaustralia.org is doing a thing where we organise I GM for you you GM for me setups
07:29:44 <Avatar> specifying scenarios
07:44:43 <Falang> Oh heyyy.. that's a thought. We should have a shared dropbox folder. it's all the time with file transfer troubles. using skype, etc.
07:45:20 <Falang> chronicle sheets, character sheets, images, maps etc.
07:47:24 <Avatar> did anyone actually care to use that shared pathfinder folder
07:50:39 <Avatar> not a bad idea
07:50:48 <Avatar> I've been using my dropbox for rulebooks for years
07:50:58 <Avatar> probably not necessary anymore
07:53:09 <Falang> of course it's not a bad idea, I don't share my bad ideas.
07:53:19 <Avatar> set it up
07:53:31 <Falang> gimmie yer address, i'll share a folder with you
07:58:02 <Falang> there
07:58:11 <Falang> we could each just have a subfolder..
07:59:04 <Falang> there.
08:03:19 <Falang> got it?
08:03:29 <Avatar> yeah
08:03:35 <Avatar> I don't think you've sorted it right
08:03:42 <Falang> ?
08:03:55 <Falang> how so?
08:03:56 <Avatar> are those folders for chronicles
08:04:08 <Falang> those are folders for whatever, kinda like a dropbox within a dropbox.
08:04:14 <Falang> either from or for that user
08:04:19 <Avatar> what if it's not user-centric
08:04:22 <Falang> at least that's what i figured would be easiest
08:04:46 <Falang> feel free to adjust it, just my thought on it.
08:04:54 <Avatar> I think you want a folder called chronicle sheets, with username folders in it
08:05:09 <Falang> and what about when we need to exchange other files?
08:05:20 <Avatar> what do you mean
08:05:40 <Avatar> use google drive man
08:05:47 <Avatar> I thought this was google drive
08:06:08 <Falang> huh?
08:06:17 <Falang> I said dropbox. drop. box.
08:06:29 <Falang> I never said drive anything.
08:07:08 <Falang> I also have google drive, but I've barely ever used it.
08:07:47 <Avatar> it integrates to android devices
08:08:40 <Falang> as you wish
08:08:47 <Falang> I've just used dropbox a lot longer
08:09:20 <Falang> same address if you want to share one with me.
08:14:04 <Mekkis> ah
08:14:25 <Mekkis> the pathfindersocietyoz site is so much more usable when you adblock the logo :)
08:16:06 <andrey> can I join in the shared dropbox folder love?
08:16:36 <Falang> well apparently it will be google drive, not dropbox, whenever avatar gets off his ass ;)
08:16:54 <Avatar> just create it
08:16:54 <Mekkis> can't you just upload it to your webserver?
08:17:10 <Avatar> it doesn't link to android apps when you upload it to your webserver
08:17:23 <andrey> it's easier to set up a dropbox folder than a google drive one
08:17:32 <andrey> plus dropbox has better linux support
08:17:34 <Mekkis> that seems like a problem with android apps
08:18:05 <Avatar> it is not
08:18:16 <andrey> Avatar, there's always dropsync https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ttxapps.dropsync
08:18:22 <andrey> works beautifully
08:18:32 <andrey> better than the official drive app anyway
08:18:50 <Mekkis> I've tried using it in the past
08:18:57 <Mekkis> there are standards for serving files online. If Android doesn't work with standards-compliant servers, the problem is android apps.
08:19:22 <andrey> huh?
08:19:48 <Mekkis> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616
08:19:55 <andrey> Mekkis, you mean through a standard protocol like ftp or something
08:20:03 <andrey> what have android apps got to do with that
08:20:08 <Mekkis> well, http
08:20:13 <Mekkis> <Avatar> it doesn't link to android apps when you upload it to your webserver
08:20:27 <andrey> oh
08:21:20 <andrey> <Avatar> it doesn't link to android apps when you upload it to your webserver
08:21:42 <andrey> that's not true, see this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.tacit.android.foldersync.lite
08:21:56 <andrey> it supports most common protocols
08:22:03 <Mekkis> how should I know: my phone runs an OS that noone uses!
08:22:16 <andrey> what's that?
08:22:19 <andrey> what os
08:22:22 <Mekkis> maemo
08:22:32 <andrey> isn't that basically linux?
08:22:37 <Mekkis> it is
08:24:00 <andrey> so do we get the shared dropbox or not?
08:26:37 <andrey> er, shared dropbox folder
08:32:09 <Falang> OMG
08:32:17 <Falang> on dear god. I'm so stuffed on that curry and rice.
08:33:07 <Falang> I don't even know how to use google drive, so somebody else needs to create it.
08:33:20 <Avatar> good grief
08:33:22 <Falang> 'sides, I think I'm going to have internal bleeding from an exploded stomach. *burp*
08:34:16 <andrey> can we just use dropbox instead of google drive
08:34:24 <andrey> also, about the true sorcery thing
08:34:37 <andrey> 7 steps to cast a spell sounds like a bit much
08:35:04 <Falang> they do repeatedly state that it's best if players write down spells on an index card
08:35:22 <Falang> but it's just a roll or two, after some practice it should be pretty easy
08:35:29 <Avatar> what are your emails, if you want access
08:35:38 <andrey> even if you know everything in advance it's still 2 rolls even before the effects kick in
08:35:52 <Falang> so? your rolling hand got a cramp or something?
08:36:01 <andrey> it takes so looong
08:36:11 <Falang> nobody complains about rolling to hit and damage with a sword
08:36:25 <andrey> that's 2 rolls only
08:36:25 <Falang> or CMB rolls, etc.
08:36:44 <andrey> with spells 3 is the minimum
08:37:05 <Falang> again, I don't see the problem, you can chain rolls easily. or even program them into the bot, like I did with Ashar
08:37:10 <Ashar> @init
08:37:11 <diebot> Ashar, Initiative: [1d20=10] 15
08:37:15 <Ashar> @ssword
08:37:16 <diebot> Ashar, 1d20+3: [1d20=8] 11; Short Sword Attack: [1d6=6] 6
08:37:28 <Ashar> @wills
08:37:33 <Ashar> @will
08:37:38 <Ashar> shit, forget the rest.
08:37:40 <Mekkis> !spell animal growth
08:37:46 <Ashar> @stealth
08:37:47 <diebot> Mekkis, ANIMAL GROWTH transmutation ([]) druid 5, ranger 4, sorcerer/wizard 5 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) one animal (Gargantuan or smaller) Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: Fortitude negates SR:yes
08:37:47 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/animal_growth.html
08:37:47 <diebot> Ashar, Sneaky Stealth Roll: [1d20=17] 24
08:37:53 <Ashar> etc.
08:38:37 <Falang> which is a pretty cool feature btw mekkis
08:38:43 <Falang> good job
08:39:16 <Mekkis> !spell snapjaw
08:39:16 <diebot> Mekkis, SNARE transmutation ([]) druid 3, ranger 2 3 rounds Range: touch touched nonmagical circle of vine, rope, or thong with a 2 ft. diameter + 2 ft./level Comp: V, S, DF Duration: Until triggered or broken Save: none SR:no
08:39:17 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/snare.html
08:39:25 <Mekkis> !spell stronglaw
08:39:25 <diebot> Mekkis, STRONG JAW transmutation ([]) druid 4, ranger 3 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S Duration: 1 minute/level Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)
08:39:26 <diebot> Laying a hand upon an allied creature's jaw, claws, tentacles, or other natural weapons, you enhance the power of that creature's natural attacks. Each natural attack that creature makes deals damage as if the creature were two sizes larger than it actually is (see page 302 of the Pathfinder Bestiary for more information). If the creature is
08:39:26 <diebot> already Gargantuan or Colossal-sized, double the amount of damage dealt by each of its natural attacks instead. This spell does not actually change the creature's size; all of its statistics except the amount of damage dealt by its natural attacks remain unchanged.
08:39:36 <Avatar> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3t1BdkLaMihVVdZQkQ5TWR3Yk0&usp=sharing
08:39:42 <Avatar> check that that works
08:39:53 <Avatar> you should just be able to see chronicle sheets
08:40:01 <Avatar> the folder I can see is called Shared Pathfinder, not sure if you can see that
08:40:02 <Falang> !roll 1d20+35 magic dc roll; 3d8 drain; 5d6 damage;
08:40:54 <Falang> I got it
08:41:15 <Falang> !roll 1d20+35; magic dc roll 3d8; drain 5d6 damage
08:41:22 <Falang> can't put multiple comments?
08:41:59 <andrey> !throw 1d20; 1d20
08:42:00 <diebot> andrey, 1d20: [1d20=4] 4; 1d20: [1d20=14] 14
08:42:13 <Falang> !throw 1d20+35; magic dc roll 3d8; drain 5d6 damage
08:42:13 <diebot> Falang, 1d20+35: [1d20=8] 43; dc roll 3d8: [] 0; 5d6 damage: [] 0
08:42:15 <Falang> ah
08:42:33 <andrey> !throw 1d20 #dc; 1d20 #drain
08:42:33 <diebot> andrey, #dc: [1d20=12] 12; #drain: [1d20=18] 18
08:42:49 <Falang> !throw 1d20+35; magic dc roll 3d8; drain 5d6 damage
08:42:49 <diebot> Falang, 1d20+35: [1d20=15] 50; dc roll 3d8: [] 0; 5d6 damage: [] 0
08:42:50 <andrey> that works too
08:43:03 <Falang> ah. well see, that's not hard
08:43:28 <Falang> anyway, I think it's a nice alternative. tired of that gayass vancian magic memorization crap.
08:43:39 <andrey> and you can copy/paste stuff so it's faster
08:43:54 <andrey> but at an actual table it would probably be annoying
08:43:56 <Falang> why the hell D&D has used that for like 30 years is beyond me
08:44:07 <andrey> because tradition
08:44:16 <Falang> because lame
08:44:24 <andrey> so you want to run a scenario with this system?
08:44:41 <Falang> I was planning a game eventually, I wouldn't mind trying this out, I must admit.
08:45:04 <Falang> it certainly would give the magic users more flexibility
08:46:08 <Wrothmonk> shared pathfinder folder?
08:47:31 <Falang> see where it allows you to control the shape/style of the attack? and the damage dice? tell me that's not cool.
08:55:52 <Falang> prolly be better if somebody else tested it, since I'm still getting the hang of 3.75, but I think that is a pretty nifty magic system, a lot better than memorization. You're just exhausted and burning out your own life force to keep casting spells. it actually makes logical sense rather than needing to haul around books, the endless rationalizations and excuses. what sense does it make that you
08:55:52 <Falang> can store only so many of each different "size" (levels) of spells at a time? none.
08:58:13 <Mekkis> A quantum theory of magic in order to address the ‘Vancian’ problem. Spell levels are analogous to the quantum shells occupied by electrons orbiting the nucleus of an atom, in that they can only have discrete numbers (1,2, etc.).
09:00:08 <Mekkis> you're welcome.
09:03:34 <Falang> pfft
09:03:46 <Falang> that is utterly rEdiculous.
09:04:04 <Mekkis> why? it explains everything
09:04:32 <Falang> if that were the case, it should be different for each person, just as it is for each atom.. not to mention races.
09:05:08 <Mekkis> last I checked, every hydrogen atom has but a single electron.
09:07:25 <Falang> elves are not humans are not gnome illusionists, those are not the same. again it's a rationalization, admittedly the best one I've ever heard.
09:07:43 <Falang> it's shoehorned in, plain and simple.
09:08:13 <Mekkis> rapidgator sucks:
09:08:16 <Mekkis> Invalid IP address: '2001:5c0:1108:1300:c27:f94c:30c0:1838'
09:08:24 <Mekkis> but that IS my IP address!
09:09:02 <Falang> suuuure. blame rapidgator.. couldn't be YOUR fault..
09:11:31 <Mekkis> it's saying my valid IP address is invalid
09:11:38 <Mekkis> pretty sure that's not my fault
09:13:44 <Falang> Maybe, maybe not.. I'm not here to judge!
09:14:00 <Mekkis> read the fine rfcs !
09:14:35 <Falang> it's okay.. let it out.. tell me how you really feel about it.
09:19:06 <Mekkis> I've told you
09:50:52 <Brunius|M> What shared pathfinder folder, Avatar
09:51:17 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pcro?GM-Shared-Prep
09:51:20 <Mekkis> that one
09:57:53 <Mekkis> wow
09:57:59 <Mekkis> Syria has left the Internet
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10:17:27 <Falang> that's where the magic system came from
10:17:28 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, pretty simple
10:17:46 <Mekkis> just get a BPG session and drop some links
10:17:47 <Mekkis> easy
10:17:54 <Wrothmonk> BPG?
10:17:58 <Falang> BGP
10:18:15 <Mekkis> BGP
10:20:30 * Wrothmonk flys to wikipedia
10:20:43 <Falang> don't bother, it's not important
10:20:53 <Mekkis> it's very important
10:21:02 <Mekkis> without BGP, the internet as we know it wouldn't exist
10:21:08 <Falang> it's not important to him
10:21:14 <Falang> in answering his question.
10:21:14 <Mekkis> it should be
10:21:20 <Wrothmonk> Border Gateway protocol?
10:21:24 <Falang> Yes..
10:21:24 <Mekkis> ja
10:21:40 <Falang> basically they turned off the routers.
10:21:42 <Falang> k?
10:21:45 <Wrothmonk> Yup
10:21:57 <Mekkis> almost
10:22:01 <Falang> hush
10:22:14 <Wrothmonk> They made their routers useless?
10:22:34 <Falang> for all we know they might have physically unplugged the things or cut cables. who can say.
10:22:35 <Mekkis> they just said "no, this route does not go to Syria"
10:22:55 <Mekkis> Falang, they actually did drop stuff out of the global BGP table.
10:23:26 <Falang> I met a syrian once, actually I met the axis of evil one day, excluding NK.
10:24:01 <Falang> its' great being introduced to people from those countries after your idiot president labels them all as evil on international tv
10:24:08 <Mekkis> I've done Germany and Japan. Missed out on Italy.
10:24:52 <Falang> I was living in a muslim nation at the time, near iran, turkey, etc, so I met allllll those types. Was so ashamed. They were quite nice to me.
10:25:08 <Falang> Esp. the iranians.
10:25:30 <Kzar> Iranians are awesome like that
10:25:43 <Falang> and their yummy yummy lavashak
10:25:44 <Kzar> but they also act nice when they don't like you, just fyi :P
10:25:59 <Falang> oh I know, but I got them laid and they plyed me with expensive scotch :)
10:26:19 <Falang> one of my best buddies there was Iranian, some friends of his from out of town.
10:26:52 <Kzar> Most of the people I know in RL are Iranians :P
10:27:11 <Wrothmonk> The more I read this, the more I want to set up a campaign with these rules for magic...
10:27:15 <Falang> do you want an award or something?
10:27:19 <Kzar> Yes :P
10:27:34 <Kzar> What for?
10:27:37 <Falang> I can only give you a cookie, I'm all out of awards.
10:27:45 <Kzar> I can take that
10:27:53 <Mekkis> Do they still have the Pirate Bay's server in the Technical Museum in Stockholm?
10:27:53 <Falang> It has raisins.
10:28:20 <Kzar> I think they're no longer in Sweden
10:28:45 <Mekkis> I thought that one of their servers was in the museum
10:28:47 <Wrothmonk> I thought nobody was supposed to know where their server was or is.
10:28:50 <Mekkis> it was in 2009
10:30:16 <Falang> Wrothmonk: I know right! I thought they were awesome. And with some practice on the part of players and GM it would be very dynamic and fun. Mekkis was all doing handwaving and trying to rationalize spell memorization, it was kinda sad to be honest. :(
10:30:49 <Mekkis> "with some practice on the part of players and GM it would be very dynamic and fun."
10:30:56 <Mekkis> You've just described every RPG
10:30:57 <Falang> Mekkis: I recall hearing about the server going there, and unless the CIA snuck in and stole it I'm guessing it's probably still there.
10:31:27 <Wrothmonk> I was also thinking my dad would like this as well, he doesn't particularly like how spells work in pathfinder since all the good stuff is higher than level 12
10:32:26 <Falang> It's very reminiscant of the WoD Mage system, or what I recall of it, never actually played that.
10:32:33 <Wrothmonk> WoD?
10:32:35 <Falang> you're altering reality
10:32:39 <Falang> World of Darkness
10:32:42 <Wrothmonk> Ah
10:32:46 <Mekkis> have you read Authentic Thaumaturgy?
10:32:49 <Falang> Vampire: The Masquerade, Werewolf, etc.
10:33:10 <Mekkis> it's supposedly the most "authentic" magic system
10:33:34 <Wrothmonk> bah
10:33:34 <Mekkis> Written by a guy who has a degree from an Ivy League university on the subject
10:33:45 <Falang> I will as soon as it finishes downloading
10:33:48 <Wrothmonk> games aren't fun when you adhere to the laws of physics.
10:34:17 <Falang> Wrothmonk: Well you're using magic to alter those laws on a limited scale, so you can fly, teleport, create heat from nowhere, etc.
10:34:35 <Wrothmonk> Point taken
10:35:06 <Falang> Though I'm not sure you could teleport in Mage, it kinda depending on quantum observation-y things as I recall
10:35:17 <Falang> doing wild flashy things was hard
10:35:19 <Wrothmonk> wormholes?
10:35:24 <Falang> esp. with people watching you
10:35:43 <Falang> like bystanders and whatnot, their reality doesn't agree with yours
10:35:51 <Mekkis> !feat selective channeling
10:35:55 <diebot> Mekkis, SELECTIVE CHANNELING []Prereq: Cha 13, channel energy class feature. You can choose whom to affect when you channel energy.
10:35:55 <diebot> Benefit: When you channel energy, you can choose a number of targets in the area up to your Charisma modifier. These targets are not affected by your channeled energy.
10:35:55 <diebot> Normal: All targets in a 30-foot burst are affected when you channel energy. You can only choose whether or not you are affected. Source: Core
10:36:04 <Falang> I may be wrong, I only skimmed it once
10:37:07 <Wrothmonk> While we're on the subject of books, have any of you read The Wizardry series?
10:37:45 <Falang> ? like the classic game series?
10:37:54 <Falang> but no, I haven't.
10:38:28 <Wrothmonk> Its about how a guy gets transported to another world and figures out how to program using magic.
10:38:59 <Wrothmonk> wait... thats not the right way to describe it...
10:39:09 <Wrothmonk> He programs magic
10:39:50 <Wrothmonk> as in his spells are like fireball.exe
10:41:18 <Falang> Hmm. well I've got more than enough to read at the moment, a truly epic backlog in fact, but I'll take a peek
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10:48:59 <Wrothmonk> Ok is my source of or is the d20 ruleset extremely similar to d&D 3.5?
10:49:28 <Wrothmonk> off*
10:49:51 <Falang> 3.5/3.75 is evolved from d20
10:50:03 <Falang> d20 is D&D 3.0
10:50:12 <Wrothmonk> Ah
10:55:36 <Mekkis> 1 Mana Point ≈ 1.0 Gramcalorie ≈ 4.2 × 10^7 Ergs
10:55:36 <Mekkis> ≈ 3.1 Footpounds ≈ .000,001 Kilowatt Hour.
10:56:29 <Wrothmonk> Anyone want to play a multiplayer 100x100 minesweeper game?
10:56:33 <Wrothmonk> :P
10:56:45 <Wrothmonk> http://sethbling.com/minesweeper3
10:56:49 <Mekkis> that sounds horribly boring
10:56:49 <Falang> I'd rather shoot myself.
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11:13:17 <Mekkis> oh no
11:13:23 <Mekkis> it's Falang again
11:14:32 <Ashar> That's right!
11:14:36 Ashar is now known as Farang
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11:20:37 <Falang> got the book you mentioned
11:20:50 <Falang> 'Making Magic "Realer"'
11:20:54 <Falang> nice
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11:36:02 <Falang> afk, out for a few hours.
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14:51:45 <Mekkis> !hp 13d8m2
14:51:49 <diebot> Mekkis, 94
14:51:50 <BoomerET> My Steam account got hijacked, and I was wondering if he could tell me when the system says the last time I logged on.
14:52:26 <BoomerET> Fuckers at Steam telling me multiple parties are disputing the account.
14:52:51 <Mekkis> that's what you get for buying software
14:52:57 <BoomerET> I've used the same fucking email for 3 yrs on Steam, and it just recently gets changed. I'm pissed
14:52:58 <Mekkis> without getting an actual box
14:53:02 <Falang> Well I'm assuming you have your credit card, that should be ultimate proof.
14:53:10 <Falang> or however you pay for it
14:53:28 <BoomerET> Not for them, they want a jpg of a CD sleeve code.
14:53:41 <BoomerET> From the first game I bought on Steam.
14:53:47 <BoomerET> That was over 10yrs ago for fucks sake.
14:53:56 <BoomerET> Like I keep game CD's for 10 yrs.
14:55:18 <Falang> no kidding.
14:55:19 <Falang> kinda defeats the purpose of steam
14:55:20 <BoomerET> I gave them the last 4 of all 4 credit cards I've used on Steam.
14:55:20 <BoomerET> Needless to say, I will never buy anything from Steam again.
14:55:23 <BoomerET> I submitted a ticket last week Tuesday, got a reply yesterday.
14:55:48 <BoomerET> It's obvious this is a huge problem that they're in over their heads.
14:56:13 <BoomerET> Other sites send me an email letting me know that my email address was changed.
14:56:19 <BoomerET> Did Steam send anything, nope.
14:56:25 <Falang> it didn't? that is strange
14:57:30 <BoomerET> For a couple weeks I was getting highly crptic emails from Steam, with no links. Just some odd message that made absolutely no sense.
14:57:46 <BoomerET> Nothing like - If you're receiving this message, it's highly likely someone is trying to hack your account.
15:01:08 <Mekkis> Yay for paying money for virtual goods
15:03:11 <Falang> Ultimately you should be fine, you've got the credit card bills, you've got ID, you've got years of email records etc.
15:03:24 <BoomerET> My apologies, Half Life didn't come out 10yrs ago, it came out 14yrs ago.
15:03:45 <Mekkis> but did you enter that CD key into steam?
15:03:51 <Falang> Look at it from their perspective, they have no idea if it's your old email account that got hacked, or your steam account, etc..
15:04:01 <Mekkis> (you know, rather than just using your starcraft CD key)
15:04:47 <BoomerET> I think this is far more widespread than anyone thinks.
15:05:31 <Falang> I'm sure it is. Kinda making me want to change my password. prolly better not to share common pws with other internet sites.. stuff gets stolen all the time.
15:06:42 <BoomerET> Yes, I went and changed my password on my google account, etc.
15:07:28 <Mekkis> I've never had a password compromised. I have had my credit card used fraudulently though
15:08:08 <BoomerET> I've had my paypal account hacked, took two months to get my $2,000 back.
15:08:58 <BoomerET> So, what games are people playing besides PF?
15:09:13 <BoomerET> I played a game of Dungeon World, it was a lot of fun.
15:09:38 <BoomerET> I just backed Torchbearer on Kickstarter, from the guys that did Burning Wheel and Mouse Guard.
15:10:16 <Falang> space pirates and zombies for me lately, I'm near the end
15:10:18 <Mekkis> you're backing software projects on kickstarter?!
15:10:39 <Falang> so? I backed 3 sw projects on kickstarter!
15:10:54 <Falang> Wasteland 2, Project Eternity, and the new Torment.
15:11:04 <Mekkis> have you ever participated in a software project?
15:12:08 * Falang is gonna get his game on
15:12:09 <BoomerET> Nope, Torchbearer is a pen and paper RPG like Pathfinder.
15:12:10 <BoomerET> Only Pathfinder Online
15:12:16 <Mekkis> No software project is completed on time, on spec, and on budget. If you're lucky, with an experienced team, you can get two.
15:12:34 <Mekkis> with kickstarter, budget is constrained...
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15:17:55 <Steven> what up
15:18:07 <Falang> constrained? they've got millions up front in the ones these days. Torment and Wasteland certainly did.
15:21:24 <Falang> They blew way past their original funding goals in less than 24 hours.
15:21:36 <Falang> on torment and wasteland both
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17:48:10 <Avatar> did anyone actually care to use that shared pathfinder folder
18:19:35 <Mekkis> I've tried using it in the past
18:38:25 <Mekkis> !spell animal growth
18:38:32 <diebot> Mekkis, ANIMAL GROWTH transmutation ([]) druid 5, ranger 4, sorcerer/wizard 5 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) one animal (Gargantuan or smaller) Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: Fortitude negates SR:yes
18:38:32 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/animal_growth.html
18:40:01 <Mekkis> !spell snapjaw
18:40:02 <diebot> Mekkis, SNARE transmutation ([]) druid 3, ranger 2 3 rounds Range: touch touched nonmagical circle of vine, rope, or thong with a 2 ft. diameter + 2 ft./level Comp: V, S, DF Duration: Until triggered or broken Save: none SR:no
18:40:02 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/snare.html
18:40:10 <Mekkis> !spell stronglaw
18:40:11 <diebot> Mekkis, STRONG JAW transmutation ([]) druid 4, ranger 3 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S Duration: 1 minute/level Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)
18:40:11 <diebot> Laying a hand upon an allied creature's jaw, claws, tentacles, or other natural weapons, you enhance the power of that creature's natural attacks. Each natural attack that creature makes deals damage as if the creature were two sizes larger than it actually is (see page 302 of the Pathfinder Bestiary for more information). If the creature is
18:40:11 <diebot> already Gargantuan or Colossal-sized, double the amount of damage dealt by each of its natural attacks instead. This spell does not actually change the creature's size; all of its statistics except the amount of damage dealt by its natural attacks remain unchanged.
18:46:54 <Wrothmonk> shared pathfinder folder?
19:51:37 <Brunius|M> What shared pathfinder folder, Avatar
19:52:03 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pcro?GM-Shared-Prep
19:52:06 <Mekkis> that one
19:58:38 <Mekkis> wow
19:58:44 <Mekkis> Syria has left the Internet
20:09:06 <Wrothmonk> who?
20:11:08 <Wrothmonk> and how in the world do you "leave" the internet?
20:12:41 <Wrothmonk> delete everything that has related to you?
20:12:50 <Wrothmonk> is*
20:14:15 <Falang> cut their links. shut off the routers.
20:15:55 <Falang> wroth: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/202013/True%20Sorcery.pdf
20:17:56 <Wrothmonk> Cool!
20:18:12 <Falang> that's where the magic system came from
20:18:15 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, pretty simple
20:18:31 <Mekkis> just get a BPG session and drop some links
20:18:33 <Mekkis> easy
20:18:40 <Wrothmonk> BPG?
20:18:44 <Falang> BGP
20:19:01 <Mekkis> BGP
20:21:15 * Wrothmonk flys to wikipedia
20:21:28 <Falang> don't bother, it's not important
20:21:38 <Mekkis> it's very important
20:21:48 <Mekkis> without BGP, the internet as we know it wouldn't exist
20:21:54 <Falang> it's not important to him
20:21:59 <Falang> in answering his question.
20:21:59 <Mekkis> it should be
20:22:06 <Wrothmonk> Border Gateway protocol?
20:22:09 <Falang> Yes..
20:22:09 <Mekkis> ja
20:22:26 <Falang> basically they turned off the routers.
20:22:27 <Falang> k?
20:22:30 <Wrothmonk> Yup
20:22:43 <Mekkis> almost
20:22:47 <Falang> hush
20:23:00 <Wrothmonk> They made their routers useless?
20:23:20 <Falang> for all we know they might have physically unplugged the things or cut cables. who can say.
20:23:20 <Mekkis> they just said "no, this route does not go to Syria"
20:23:41 <Mekkis> Falang, they actually did drop stuff out of the global BGP table.
20:24:12 <Falang> I met a syrian once, actually I met the axis of evil one day, excluding NK.
20:24:47 <Falang> its' great being introduced to people from those countries after your idiot president labels them all as evil on international tv
20:24:54 <Mekkis> I've done Germany and Japan. Missed out on Italy.
20:25:37 <Falang> I was living in a muslim nation at the time, near iran, turkey, etc, so I met allllll those types. Was so ashamed. They were quite nice to me.
20:25:54 <Falang> Esp. the iranians.
20:26:15 <Kzar> Iranians are awesome like that
20:26:29 <Falang> and their yummy yummy lavashak
20:26:30 <Kzar> but they also act nice when they don't like you, just fyi :P
20:26:45 <Falang> oh I know, but I got them laid and they plyed me with expensive scotch :)
20:27:04 <Falang> one of my best buddies there was Iranian, some friends of his from out of town.
20:27:38 <Kzar> Most of the people I know in RL are Iranians :P
20:27:56 <Wrothmonk> The more I read this, the more I want to set up a campaign with these rules for magic...
20:28:00 <Falang> do you want an award or something?
20:28:04 <Kzar> Yes :P
20:28:19 <Kzar> What for?
20:28:22 <Falang> I can only give you a cookie, I'm all out of awards.
20:28:30 <Kzar> I can take that
20:28:38 <Falang> It has raisins.
20:28:38 <Mekkis> Do they still have the Pirate Bay's server in the Technical Museum in Stockholm?
20:29:05 <Kzar> I think they're no longer in Sweden
20:29:30 <Mekkis> I thought that one of their servers was in the museum
20:29:32 <Wrothmonk> I thought nobody was supposed to know where their server was or is.
20:29:36 <Mekkis> it was in 2009
20:31:01 <Falang> Wrothmonk: I know right! I thought they were awesome. And with some practice on the part of players and GM it would be very dynamic and fun. Mekkis was all doing handwaving and trying to rationalize spell memorization, it was kinda sad to be honest. :(
20:31:35 <Mekkis> "with some practice on the part of players and GM it would be very dynamic and fun."
20:31:41 <Mekkis> You've just described every RPG
20:31:42 <Falang> Mekkis: I recall hearing about the server going there, and unless the CIA snuck in and stole it I'm guessing it's probably still there.
20:32:12 <Wrothmonk> I was also thinking my dad would like this as well, he doesn't particularly like how spells work in pathfinder since all the good stuff is higher than level 12
20:33:11 <Falang> It's very reminiscant of the WoD Mage system, or what I recall of it, never actually played that.
20:33:18 <Wrothmonk> WoD?
20:33:20 <Falang> you're altering reality
20:33:24 <Falang> World of Darkness
20:33:27 <Wrothmonk> Ah
20:33:32 <Mekkis> have you read Authentic Thaumaturgy?
20:33:35 <Falang> Vampire: The Masquerade, Werewolf, etc.
20:33:56 <Mekkis> it's supposedly the most "authentic" magic system
20:34:19 <Wrothmonk> bah
20:34:20 <Mekkis> Written by a guy who has a degree from an Ivy League university on the subject
20:34:30 <Falang> I will as soon as it finishes downloading
20:34:34 <Wrothmonk> games aren't fun when you adhere to the laws of physics.
20:35:02 <Falang> Wrothmonk: Well you're using magic to alter those laws on a limited scale, so you can fly, teleport, create heat from nowhere, etc.
20:35:20 <Wrothmonk> Point taken
20:35:51 <Falang> Though I'm not sure you could teleport in Mage, it kinda depending on quantum observation-y things as I recall
20:36:03 <Falang> doing wild flashy things was hard
20:36:04 <Wrothmonk> wormholes?
20:36:09 <Falang> esp. with people watching you
20:36:28 <Falang> like bystanders and whatnot, their reality doesn't agree with yours
20:36:49 <Falang> I may be wrong, I only skimmed it once
20:37:53 <Wrothmonk> While we're on the subject of books, have any of you read The Wizardry series?
20:38:31 <Falang> ? like the classic game series?
20:38:39 <Falang> but no, I haven't.
20:39:13 <Wrothmonk> Its about how a guy gets transported to another world and figures out how to program using magic.
20:39:44 <Wrothmonk> wait... thats not the right way to describe it...
20:39:54 <Wrothmonk> He programs magic
20:40:35 <Wrothmonk> as in his spells are like fireball.exe
20:42:03 <Falang> Hmm. well I've got more than enough to read at the moment, a truly epic backlog in fact, but I'll take a peek
20:49:44 <Wrothmonk> Ok is my source of or is the d20 ruleset extremely similar to d&D 3.5?
20:50:13 <Wrothmonk> off*
20:50:36 <Falang> 3.5/3.75 is evolved from d20
20:50:49 <Falang> d20 is D&D 3.0
20:50:58 <Wrothmonk> Ah
20:56:22 <Mekkis> 1 Mana Point ≈ 1.0 Gramcalorie ≈ 4.2 × 10^7 Ergs
20:56:22 <Mekkis> ≈ 3.1 Footpounds ≈ .000,001 Kilowatt Hour.
20:57:15 <Wrothmonk> Anyone want to play a multiplayer 100x100 minesweeper game?
20:57:19 <Wrothmonk> :P
20:57:31 <Wrothmonk> http://sethbling.com/minesweeper3
20:57:35 <Falang> I'd rather shoot myself.
20:57:35 <Mekkis> that sounds horribly boring
21:14:03 <Mekkis> oh no
21:14:09 <Mekkis> it's Falang again
21:15:18 <Ashar> That's right!
21:21:23 <Falang> got the book you mentioned
21:21:36 <Falang> 'Making Magic "Realer"'
21:21:39 <Falang> nice
21:36:48 <Falang> afk, out for a few hours.
22:11:57 * Farang has gone mobile
22:40:52 <Wrothmonk> up down up down up down...
22:49:00 <Farang> shitty WiFi here
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